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DanChapman | morning all | 06:00 |
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pack_code | How do you publish a .deb app on the software center if license is GPL3? | 09:33 |
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popey | pack_code: same way you publish with an app of any license | 10:20 |
pack_code | popey: I tried that | 10:27 |
popey | tried what? | 10:27 |
pack_code | to publish that way | 10:28 |
pack_code | I go t a message | 10:28 |
pack_code | popey: Thank you for submitting a gratis Free Software application through MyApps. At this time we are unable to process this request, as we are working on the implementation of a new app upload process. | 10:29 |
pack_code | My app is FOSS | 10:29 |
popey | Ah okay. It's a free app? | 10:29 |
pack_code | popey: FOSS | 10:29 |
popey | It can be FOSS and not free :) | 10:29 |
popey | But anyway.. | 10:29 |
pack_code | yes.. | 10:29 |
popey | I would recommend you upload your application to Debian. | 10:29 |
popey | Well, find a debian developer to assist you with that. | 10:29 |
pack_code | but will I see it in ubuntu software center | 10:29 |
popey | Not immediately. | 10:30 |
pack_code | without having to add ppas | 10:30 |
pack_code | how long is the review? | 10:30 |
popey | But putting it in Debian means it will come to a future Ubuntu release, and other Debian derivatives benefit too. | 10:30 |
popey | I don't know. You'd need to speak to a Debian developer | 10:30 |
pack_code | retroactive as well? | 10:30 |
pack_code | for trusty? | 10:30 |
ogra_ | trusty is in final freeze | 10:31 |
pack_code | damn! | 10:31 |
pack_code | I am on utopic | 10:31 |
pack_code | do you have a link to the edbian option you mentioned | 10:31 |
pack_code | "edbian" meant debian | 10:31 |
popey | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#newpackage | 10:32 |
popey | that might be useful | 10:32 |
popey | The documentation is comprehensive. | 10:33 |
pack_code | it is | 10:33 |
pack_code | so there's really no way then, is there? | 10:33 |
popey | no way for what? | 10:34 |
pack_code | for an app to appear in Ubuntu Software Center | 10:34 |
popey | Yes, but not immediately, if it's FOSS | 10:34 |
pack_code | I have a launchpad ppa and a bzr recipe | 10:34 |
popey | (and free) | 10:34 |
pack_code | why is that? | 10:34 |
pack_code | I thout Ubuntu was based on free/donations | 10:34 |
popey | Long story. | 10:34 |
pack_code | 1 sentence | 10:34 |
pack_code | any outlook at least? | 10:35 |
popey | If you want to appear in the Software Centre, get your package in the Ubuntu archive. | 10:35 |
pack_code | how? | 10:35 |
popey | to get in the archive, you're better getting in Debian (then everyone benefits) | 10:35 |
popey | if you dont want to send to debian, you can submit to Ubuntu, but it won't go to Trusty archive, as that's already shipped. | 10:36 |
pack_code | sure | 10:36 |
popey | you could get it in W (15.10) when that releases, then request a backport | 10:36 |
pack_code | I could live w/o trusty | 10:36 |
popey | but honestly, going to debian is better. | 10:36 |
pack_code | could work | 10:36 |
pack_code | just what is the procedure | 10:36 |
popey | s/releases/opens/ | 10:36 |
pack_code | huh? | 10:36 |
popey | Well, the archive for W isn't open yet. | 10:36 |
popey | 15.10 hasn't even begun yet. | 10:36 |
ahoneybun | soon | 10:37 |
pack_code | I see its not that time of April yet | 10:37 |
popey | Close to when 15.04 releases, the archive for 15.10 will open. | 10:37 |
pack_code | so does the software center automatically pick up debian archives or does one have to configure something like "multiverse" | 10:37 |
popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages | 10:37 |
popey | No. | 10:38 |
popey | USC shows what's in the archive, main, restricted, universe, multiverse | 10:38 |
pack_code | That is very useful.... | 10:38 |
pack_code | popey: thanks man! | 10:38 |
popey | However, I would still urge you to submit to debian, unless it's an Ubuntu specific app. | 10:39 |
pack_code | it's actually gnome-shell | 10:39 |
pack_code | game | 10:39 |
pack_code | wanna see? | 10:39 |
popey | sure. | 10:39 |
pack_code | https://launchpad.net/puzzl main site | 10:40 |
pack_code | popey: https://launchpad.net/~itprojects/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+files/puzzl_1.0%2Br4%7Eubuntu14.10.1_amd64.deb | 10:41 |
pack_code | popey: there was a debian import freeze on feb19 | 10:43 |
popey | but it could go into the next release | 10:44 |
pack_code | popey: that's the boat I missed | 10:44 |
popey | bummer | 10:44 |
pack_code | I know, maybe on the next time the Titanic makes a stop somewhere | 10:44 |
popey | heh | 10:46 |
pack_code | popey: thanks for the brainstom | 10:46 |
popey | np | 10:47 |
pack_code | have a nice day! | 10:47 |
popey | you too | 10:47 |
zsombi_ | nik90: ping | 11:15 |
zsombi_ | nik90: I'm back on alarm ID | 11:15 |
zsombi_ | nik90: I managed to launch teh clock app on my vivid :) | 11:16 |
nik90 | zsombi_: hey | 11:18 |
nik90 | zsombi_: ooh nice | 11:18 |
zsombi_ | nik90: so, I managed to crash teh app only ince, and I cannot reprodice it anymore... | 11:19 |
zsombi_ | once | 11:19 |
nik90 | zsombi_: I just got a email notification about the alarm-id MP and realized that I mentioned my test results to you on IRC that day but failed to comment on the MP. | 11:20 |
nik90 | zsombi_: From what I remember, even after switching to the memory backend, I did observe some strange behavior with respect to the bottom edge tab not being aware of the alarm changes..as if a signal wasn't fired | 11:21 |
nik90 | zsombi_: I couldn't reproduce this on every try, but it happened more or less 6 out of 10 times. | 11:21 |
zsombi_ | nik90: so th ebottom edge connects to some model signal? | 11:23 |
nik90 | zsombi_: well the bottom edge periodically (every minute) goes through the alarm model and calculates the time to the next closest active alarm. | 11:24 |
nik90 | zsombi_: but it seems that the alarm model variable doesn't seem to be updated (I think( | 11:24 |
zsombi_ | nik90: I cannot repro that... :( | 11:25 |
nik90 | zsombi_: I will test it once more with the same test conditions as before | 11:26 |
zsombi_ | nik90: this si weird... the bottom edge label fetches the alarm model every time o move the window... | 11:26 |
zsombi_ | nik90: good. I've updated the MR, synced with staging now | 11:27 |
nik90 | zsombi_: on the phone probably that equates to the app getting focus again | 11:27 |
zsombi_ | nik90: perhaps... | 11:28 |
nik90 | zsombi_: the reason we do that is quite important...if an alarm goes off, the indicator-datetime disables it (for one-time alarm cases). However the clock app ui did not update to reflect that. So I had to add the code where when the clock app gets focus, we recheck the alarm model | 11:28 |
zsombi_ | nik90: but we shoudl do sthing about that | 11:28 |
nik90 | zsombi_: that was the best solution we could come up with at the time..I remember discussing this UI not updating issue when I implemented the solution. | 11:29 |
zsombi_ | nik90: right... and that can stay as is | 11:33 |
zsombi_ | nik90: what we could do is to have some LiveTime{} component which woudl also trigger a signal to give you the next upcomming alarm | 11:33 |
nik90 | zsombi_: yeah that would be handy..would save the clock app from polling the alarm model unnecessarily | 11:35 |
nik90 | zsombi_: if this LiveTime{} component lands in 1.3, would that be in vivid or vivid+1 ? | 11:38 |
zsombi_ | nik90: 1.2 is vivid, 1.3 is v+1 :) | 11:38 |
zsombi_ | nik90: but I'm affraid we cannot get this alarm ID to 1.2 :( | 11:40 |
zsombi_ | so it has to go to 1.3 | 11:40 |
zsombi_ | but I'll discuss this today with pmcgowan | 11:41 |
nik90 | zsombi_: its not critical to land this in 1.2 but the fact that i-dt and EDS landed their required fixes in vivid makes their effort go wasted | 11:42 |
nik90 | sure, let me know what comes out of it | 11:42 |
zsombi_ | nik90: exactly... | 11:42 |
zsombi_ | The MR was ready and I could not find anything, so it should have landed :/ | 11:42 |
vitimiti | I have followed this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Translations to set up the translation options for my project. Now I would like to translate the Spanish part myself, is there a way I can do this or should I just let the Ubuntu team do it? | 11:49 |
sverzegnassi | hi all! is it safe to add some custom extension to the manifest.json file (i'm talking about UITK app)? i've seen a few core apps have some. | 12:04 |
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popey | sverzegnassi: yeah, the core apps have them for autopilot under x-test, and I believe they are just ignored | 12:10 |
popey | you might want to run click-reviewer-tools over them though, and you'll probably just get warnings | 12:10 |
popey | (also, sverzegnassi you have mail) :D | 12:10 |
* nik90 is ecstatic..he just got his insider's BQ Device! | 12:11 | |
sverzegnassi | popey: yes, i'd like to add some info in the manifest for one of my app just because i'm lazy and i've built an AboutPage that grab the info from there | 12:12 |
sverzegnassi | popey: yes, I've seen the mail. at the moment i'm not at home, and I don't remember all the details | 12:12 |
Elleo | nik90: awesome :) | 12:13 |
DanChapman | nik90: \o/ | 12:13 |
nik90 | :) | 12:17 |
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popey | sverzegnassi: ok | 12:30 |
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zsombi_ | nik90: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10838872/ | 14:29 |
zsombi_ | nik90: sometimes I am getting a crash at the point when I launch the app on desktop | 14:29 |
zsombi_ | nik90: I have a comment about that so there's some GLib call you have there... | 14:29 |
zsombi_ | nik90: but still, seems if I do not cache the alarms, then I don't get crashes... though the first crash I got when the cache was taken away... I have to check how to get this more stable | 14:32 |
zsombi_ | but next week | 14:32 |
nik90 | zsombi_: hmm strange..I will look through AlarmPage.qml; | 14:32 |
nik90 | zsombi_: I don't even load anything in alarmpage.qml..just normal qtquick and ubuntu component imports | 14:33 |
zsombi_ | nik90: there's something after onCompleted... | 14:33 |
zsombi_ | nik90: do you have anything else which would cause some GLib calls? | 14:33 |
nik90 | zsombi_: clock app has a c++ plugin which uses Qtdbus to communicate to indicator-datetime..that's about it | 14:34 |
zsombi_ | aham... well, I'll go off now, I'll check it next week | 14:34 |
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nik90 | zsombi_: ok..I will take the weekend to do some investigation | 14:35 |
zsombi_ | nik90: ouh! If I run the app with ALARM_BACKEND=memory, it crashes every time!!! | 14:37 |
zsombi_ | nik90: !!!!! QOrganizerManager::availableManagers().contains(envManager) crashes!!! | 14:38 |
zsombi_ | renatu: ^ | 14:38 |
renatu | zsombi_, probably you have a broken qorganizer plugin installed | 14:40 |
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zsombi_ | renatu: hmmm! only me? It used to crash for nik90 as well... | 14:40 |
nik90 | zsombi_: true but it crashes only once or twice for me and it was a week or two ago? | 14:41 |
renatu | zsombi_, I got this when I have a a memory or a eds plugin installed but built with a different qt version | 14:41 |
zsombi_ | nik90: renatu: if I remove that line of code, I do no longer get any crashes... | 14:42 |
zsombi_ | renatu: oh, f*k! | 14:42 |
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zsombi_ | WTF??! qtdeclarative5-qtorganizer-plugin: | 14:44 |
zsombi_ | Installed: 5.0~git20140515~29475884-0ubuntu9 | 14:44 |
zsombi_ | Candidate: 5.0~git20140515~29475884-0ubuntu9 | 14:44 |
zsombi_ | Version table: | 14:44 |
zsombi_ | *** 5.0~git20140515~29475884-0ubuntu9 0 | 14:44 |
zsombi_ | 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid/universe amd64 Packages | 14:44 |
zsombi_ | 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status | 14:44 |
zsombi_ | renatu: ^ look at that? is it really | 14:44 |
zsombi_ | renatu: is the plugin still qtdeclarative5-qtorganizer-plugin? | 14:45 |
renatu | yes | 14:45 |
zsombi_ | renatu: and is it true that has not been built with 5.4.1? | 14:46 |
zsombi_ | renatu: what's yours? | 14:46 |
renatu | zsombi_, I build it from source | 14:47 |
zsombi_ | ok, that's not a ref point then... | 14:47 |
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renatu | zsombi_, check the files on your: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/organizer/ | 14:53 |
renatu | zsombi_, try remove one by one, to see which one is broken | 14:53 |
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nik90 | charles: ping | 16:07 |
charles | nik90: pong | 16:07 |
nik90 | charles: hey, can you get a MP to change the default alarm silence after duration to 10 minutes as specified by mpt? | 16:08 |
nik90 | charles: I was suppose to change the wording in the clock app side, and I will get a MP for that in my end | 16:09 |
charles | nik90, alarm-duration-minutes is already 10 minutes in trunk? | 16:09 |
nik90 | s/suppose/supposed | 16:09 |
nik90 | charles: oh..I haven't tested clock app on vivid for sometime ...that's why I may have missed that | 16:10 |
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charles | nik90, ping me if it's not working for you, but the default should be 10 now | 17:00 |
nik90 | charles: just flashed latest vivid, and I see the default as 10 mins | 17:04 |
charles | nik90, \o/ | 17:04 |
nik90 | :) | 17:05 |
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TestDeveloper | hello | 17:28 |
TestDeveloper | I want to create a new provider for owncloud. Is there a tutorial to do this? | 17:29 |
popey | renatu: seen bug 1445586 from alesage ? "error" : "error code from SyncEvolution remote, status 400: REPORT 'meta data': bad HTTP status: <status 1.1, code 400, class 4, Bad Request>" | 19:03 |
ubot5 | bug 1445586 in sync-monitor "Failed sync of Google calendar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445586 | 19:03 |
popey | :( | 19:03 |
renatu | popey, are you using the version from silo? | 19:15 |
popey | renatu: it wasn't me | 19:15 |
renatu | yes the fix did not land yet | 19:16 |
alesage | renatu, from a fresh vivid flash, using calendar from the store | 19:16 |
renatu | alesage, if you want that working you need to get syncevolution from the silo | 19:17 |
popey | ahh | 19:17 |
alesage | popey, not sure what the process is here, may need a new silo and/or your advice | 19:36 |
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DF__ | HI | 22:53 |
DF__ | can some one help me out?? | 22:53 |
beuno | DF__, what's up? | 22:54 |
DF__ | i have some problems with a mysql conection | 22:54 |
beuno | DF__, on the ubuntu phone? | 22:55 |
DF__ | yep | 22:55 |
DF__ | and the development | 22:55 |
DF__ | bueno, i can't install the lib on my nexus 4 | 22:56 |
DF__ | ... | 23:03 |
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