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barrydkMore almal04:28
Symmetriaek kan nie a woord van afrikaans praat of verstaan nie ;p04:30
Symmetriaso wat se jy?04:30
Symmetria;p04:30
barrydkI said good morning to every one Symmetria04:51
pieter2627morning barrydk 05:10
pieter2627morning Kilos05:16
Kilosmorning pieter2627  hows you today?05:17
pieter2627fantastic ty, and you?05:17
Kilosim good ty, just wondering if im gonna be loadshed at 8 again05:17
pieter2627haha, did the 4pm one hit you yesterday?05:18
Kilosno only the 8 am one05:18
pieter2627i was kind of disappointed to also miss it05:20
Kilosi just worry the sheeding is going to mess up my only 100%good drive as well05:21
Kilosshedding05:21
Kilosoh i wanted to ask you as well about ram05:22
Kiloshmm...05:22
Kilosis the samsung notebook memory the same05:23
pieter2627depends...05:24
pieter2627older ones will be ddr2, and i think even older mem types for the more older one05:25
Kilosi see my supplier has the ddr3 for R269 for 2g05:26
Kiloswhat make is your lappy05:26
pieter2627that's not too bad... msi (ddr3)05:26
KilosSAMSUNG 2GB DRR3 PC3- 10600 1333MHZ SODIMM05:27
pieter2627last i checked takealot had for around R23005:27
pieter2627so am constantly eyeing them05:27
pieter2627it is weird how most sell the 1333MHZ's05:29
Kiloswhat is yours05:30
pieter26271600MHZ05:31
Kilosai!05:31
pieter2627or so says `dmidecode` (it lists the wrong number of slots)05:32
KilosSAMSUNG 8GB DDR3 1600MHZ SODIMM, 1.35V LOW POWERED05:33
pieter2627i'm brasing myself05:34
Kilosthats a lot of money for ram05:34
Kilosbut 8g is lekker05:34
pieter2627hey it is (you forgot the price)05:35
KilosR89905:35
pieter2627s/hey/yea/05:35
pieter2627ouch, takealot still seems the best (for R833)05:36
Kilosthe pricelist opens here on libreoffice calc and copy paste not easy05:36
Kilosand your cpu speed?05:37
pieter2627or maybe they aren't with this one (theirs is actually R932)05:37
pieter26271800Mhz (Dual ivery)05:38
Kilosai!05:38
Kilosim running 12.04 on my old pc with 2g ram but its at least a 3g cpu05:39
Kilosddr ram too05:39
Kilosits slow but doesnt hang05:40
pieter2627this cpu outperforms my old 2.8Mhz05:40
Kilossjoe05:41
Kilosso just ram needed then05:41
pieter2627yes, (i can't actually remember seeing the cpu at 100% lately)05:42
Jacques_StryMorning all05:43
Kiloshi Jacques_Stry  05:43
pieter2627morning Jacques_Stry 05:43
Symmetriammm05:44
Symmetriamorning05:44
Symmetriaisn't there an ubuntu release today?05:44
Kiloshi Symmetria  05:44
Jacques_Stry15.04 RC was yesterday05:44
Kilosyesterday wasnt it05:44
Symmetriaaahh when is the final?05:44
SymmetriaRC is always pretty small 05:44
Jacques_StryNext week friday05:44
Jacques_StryThursday*05:44
Jacques_StryIf you want to install the current RC: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/20150416/05:45
Symmetriaheh, nah, not wanting to install it, just watcing traffic on the mirror servers05:46
Jacques_Strylol05:46
Jacques_Stryforgot you manage that :)05:46
mealsohi Symmetria 05:48
* Kilos better shutdown old machine before im shed05:50
mealsobye now05:50
Jacques_StryB05:50
Symmetriaholy crap05:51
Symmetriathe ubuntu mirror server05:51
Symmetriais doing between 250 and 300 hits a second05:51
Kiloswhew05:51
Symmetriaand on occcasion hitting up to 370 hits a second05:52
Jacques_Stry:)05:52
Kilosubuntu is actually going stronger than ever05:53
Kilosonly peeps have forgotten irc05:53
pieter2627is that sa only?05:53
Symmetriapieter2627 east africa 05:53
Symmetriaaalston@mirror:~$ tail -f /var/log/apache2/ubuntu-archive.log |pv -l -i3 -r -a -t >/dev/null05:53
Symmetria0:00:36 [ 279/s] [ 290/s]05:53
KilosSymmetria  you clever05:54
Symmetriaheh, refreshing every 3 seconds, time counter is time I've been looking, second column is average hits per second and third is the rate in the last 3 seconds05:54
Kiloshow can you remind them all about irc05:54
Kilos#ubuntu-africa is the channel to point to05:54
pieter2627wow, what was the past figures?05:55
Symmetriapieter2627 thats current figures as we speak05:55
pieter2627and previous (rc) releases?05:55
Symmetriahard to say, even on a normal day we're running at 200+ hits a second though05:56
Symmetriaheh, on full release days that can easily cross a thousand05:56
* pieter2627 is amazed O_O05:57
KilosSymmetria  answer me man05:58
SymmetriaKilos heh, I have no idea how to get people back onto irc05:58
Symmetriafacebook/twitter killed the irc star :(05:58
Kiloswell think05:58
Kilosya05:58
Kilosand i dont like either of them05:59
Kilosi think im about to be shed05:59
KilosMaaz  watch them05:59
Maazoh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!05:59
Jacques_StryI'm shedding at 1106:00
Kilosi can never find my area to check06:00
pieter2627Kilos: it is not cold enough yet to start shedding leaves :P06:00
Kilos6ks west of mahem06:01
Kiloshaha06:01
Symmetrialol at least you can tell kinda when you gonan get loadshed06:02
Symmetriain Kenya they just randomly fucking turn it off06:02
Symmetria;p06:02
Symmetriaheh my power at home went out this morning at 5:17am and still isnt back ;(06:03
Jacques_Stry>.<06:03
Kilosai!06:03
Kiloshi lin  06:04
linhehe06:04
linkilos06:04
linhi06:04
Kilosi forget where you are located lin06:06
* Kilos needs a young sectretary with a good memory06:07
Kilossecretary06:07
Kilosdaai mooi meisies06:07
pieter2627... and good spellign06:08
pieter2627;P06:08
Kiloshaha06:08
Kilosmy spelling is fine, its my fingers that forget where to go06:08
pieter2627oh yea forgot... she need smooth fingers?06:09
Kiloslol06:09
Kiloswow looks like they forgot to shed me06:10
Kilosso it will be this avy then06:10
linI'm in Kenya, Kilos 06:10
Kilosty lin im gonna add you in my list for there now06:11
pieter2627or they stopped since yesterday since there was none yesterday afternoon either06:11
Kiloshold thumbs06:12
SilverCodeanyone here know how to configure Network Up Tools to force a shutdown when it goes on battery, instead of when it gets low battery?06:13
inetprogood mornings06:13
inetprooh and hi to oom Kilos06:13
Kiloslol hi there inetpro  06:14
Kilosand plustwo  06:14
plustwomornin all06:15
Kiloslin you should visit #ubuntu-ke now and again too, poor tribaal is lonesome there06:15
pieter2627hi plustwo 06:15
plustwohi pieter2627oom Kilos06:15
Kilosbad news when the main topic of the day is loadshedding06:18
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  06:28
KilosSymmetria  maybe you can get this link out further than i can https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams06:31
Squirmmorning06:54
* Jacques_Stry waves06:54
Kiloshi Squirm  06:54
* Kilos wonders who else would make a good bugsquad canditate06:59
* Jacques_Stry was looking to join the bug squad but still struggling a bit to fix the problems that are on the bugs list07:06
Kilosthere are so many07:11
Kilosday before yesterday there were still over 1000 on 15.1007:12
Kilospieter2627  have you tried using a light weight browser07:12
pieter2627firefox is lightweight for what i'm doing :P07:13
Kilossjoe07:14
Kilosi dont use the fox at all07:14
pieter2627i don't really issues when doing normal stuff, just when working hard07:14
Kilosok so then dont work hard07:15
pieter2627i currently rely heavily on its 'tabs group' feature07:15
Kiloshehe07:15
pieter2627haha07:15
Kiloseasy does it everytime07:16
pieter2627am currently downloading kubuntu rc to try it for the next few days07:17
Kiloskde takes some getting used to but once you are used to it then you dont want to change07:17
Kilosi think thunderbird is tied into the fox somewhere isnt it07:24
pieter2627hmm, i think they only share a few things (although i have noticed that fox will stay open after being closed until the bird is closed too)07:33
Kilosai!07:33
Kilosand the stupid bird keeps wanting to compress stuff here but there are like 10 emails only and on a 1TB drive07:35
Kilossigh07:35
pieter2627haha07:35
Kilosaw he killed it07:50
Kiloswb pieter2627  08:01
Kilosand R0ok_  08:01
SquirmThe joys08:05
SquirmStage 2 load shedding08:05
Kilosai!08:05
Kiloshmm... someone was learning python08:13
charlgood morning08:15
charlMaaz: coffee on08:15
* Maaz starts grinding coffee08:15
stickyboyGreat success08:18
Kiloswhat now stickyboy  08:18
stickyboyKilos: Maaz grinding coffee.08:19
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!08:19
Kiloshi charl  08:19
charlMaaz: danke08:19
MaazBitteschön08:19
charlhi Kilos 08:19
charlhow are you doing08:19
Kilosgood ty and you08:19
charlgood08:19
charlwhat's been happening around here, i haven't been around for a while08:20
charli took a month hiatus from freenode08:21
Kiloseish08:21
Kiloswe been working08:21
charlsounds good08:21
MaNIdeath to eskom :/08:29
Kilosthen we will never have power08:36
Kilosjust a good sjambokking could help though08:37
ThatGraemeGuyheh08:43
ThatGraemeGuyit isn't the 80s anymore :-o08:43
Kiloslol08:43
MaNIanyone know a solar panel place that sells at reasonable prices? :P08:49
charlhttps://www.facebook.com/snowreportsa/photos/a.312313212229373.1073741828.312197008907660/667550900038934/09:01
charlsnow in south africa lol09:01
charlis this common?09:01
Kilosin winter ya09:01
Kilosbut a bit early now09:01
charlindeed09:01
MaNIits been a bit more common the last 5 years or so09:03
Kilosblame it on global warming09:04
Kiloswe get the global freezing09:04
charlyeah i can't remember much snow when i used to live in south africa09:04
charlit was rare09:04
Kilossome areas like natal never see snow except on the drakensburg09:16
Kilosbut its moving down lately09:16
MaNIyeah, cape as well, its usually just the peaks if that, but last 5 years theres been a bit more in lower areas09:26
MaNIbut also these snow report people have been doing a good job of making people aware of it when it does happen I guess, so maybe it's just the media effect at play09:27
magespawngood morning09:28
Jacques_StryMaNI: Try http://www.sustainable.co.za/ for the solar panels09:28
Jacques_StryTheir prices pretty good I think09:29
MaNIlike R10/watt - http://www.gwstore.co.za/site/info/index.php?type=view_article&id=891 thats the best I've found so far R7/watt09:30
Jacques_StryNice09:30
MaNIbut min order of 25 panels :(09:31
Jacques_Stry>.<09:31
Kiloshi magespawn  09:32
Kilosthen to work out what inverter you will need too09:42
Kiloshttp://www.sustainable.co.za/solar-power/solar-inverters.html09:42
MaNI2yeah09:44
MaNI2huge price fluctuation between brands on inverters09:46
=== MaNI2 is now known as MaNI
Kiloshttps://mrzonbu.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/how-much-power-does-your-desktop-pc-use/09:50
Kiloshe says under 175 watts but i dont know if that includes the screen09:50
MaNII doubt my desktop pc resembles the average one at all :P09:51
Kilosah youve built up your own09:51
Jacques_Strylol my home pc uses allot more09:51
Jacques_Strywhen playing games it consumes 400-450w09:52
Kilosi thinks the 175 watts in box only09:52
Kilosis09:52
Kiloshavent found what screens use09:52
MaNIwell I have 10 hard drives in it for starters :P09:53
Jacques_StryNo a standard office pc with 18.5 inch screen uses about 175-200w09:53
MaNIand yeah I'm sure if your graphics card is in full draw it will pull a much larger load09:53
Kilosno man the screen runs off ac09:53
Jacques_Strythats a pentium duel core with on-board graphics and 4gb ram09:53
Jacques_StryWe tested is when we got quotes for generators09:53
Kilosbut take it as max of 500w for box then find whats screens use09:54
MaNItheres a site somewhere where you can put actual components for more realsitic estimate09:54
Jacques_Stryscreen and case used 175-200 in office use09:54
MaNIits like 30w per harddrive or something09:54
MaNIbut you can use your power supply as an upper limit09:54
MaNIif its a 400w power supply you can't possibly be using more than 400w etc.09:55
Jacques_StryHard drives are usually about 10-15w per hdd09:55
MaNIscreens are about 170w I think09:55
Kiloswow so min09:55
Jacques_StryWhere you  guys getting these figures from >.<09:56
MaNIless09:56
MaNI45w09:57
MaNIhttp://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-syncmaster-2333sw/specs/09:57
Kiloshttps://mrzonbu.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/how-much-power-does-your-desktop-pc-use/09:57
Jacques_Stry18.5 uses about 20w if a modern led09:57
Kiloshehe09:57
MaNIhad 170w in my head but thats probably from old CRTs09:57
Jacques_Stryhttp://www.lg.com/ae/monitors/lg-19M35A/technical-specifications09:57
Jacques_StryActive power consumption `13w09:58
Kilosi would have thought the screen uses more09:58
MaNIits just a fancy light :P09:58
Kiloshi nlsthzn  09:59
nlsthznhey uncle Kilos ... 09:59
Kiloswhat does the ... mean10:00
* Jacques_Stry waves10:00
MaNIhttp://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp < can use something like that to get a reasonable estimate for a specific pc10:01
nlsthzn... it means ... that I ... pressed the . three times ...10:02
* nlsthzn also waves and also ...10:02
* Jacques_Stry ...10:03
Kiloshehe10:07
Kilossjoe too much rtfs10:10
Kiloshahaha nlsthzn  i meant does the ... have anything to add to the greeting man10:11
Kiloslike maybe hello and now stop nagging me10:13
Kilosek sukkel met my volk partykeer10:13
charlhave a good weekend all10:19
Kilosi go eat11:19
Kiloshi spinza  why you been so quiet12:28
Kilosbusy is a feeble excuse12:28
Kilosunless expanded upon12:31
MaNIdoes anyone know any south african companies that sell DC-DC ATX power supplies? like e.g. http://www.powerstream.com/DC-PC-12V-500.htm12:53
=== Symmetria is now known as Symm
magespawnW=V*I13:18
magespawnKilos: ^13:19
magespawnWatts (W) = Volts (V) * Amps (I)13:20
Kilosya13:20
magespawnso on this small screen i have here W = 240V * 1Amp13:21
magespawnso 240W13:21
Kilosthats about all i remember from before13:21
magespawnbut that is an old screen13:21
Kiloswhere did you get the info13:22
Kilosand your voltage is 22o13:22
Kilosptown is the only place with 240 i think13:22
Kilosand it is normally 230 and odd bits13:23
Kilosv=i/r13:23
SquirmStick with 220v13:23
magespawnthe screen is rated for 110-240V so in this case the lower your supply the less you will use, ironic13:24
Kiloslol13:25
magespawnand i would thing the same applies to most appliances that convert the ac to dc13:26
Kilosya13:26
Kilosohms law13:26
Kilosi dont think anyone has found a way to corrupt that yet13:27
Kilosonly energy saving bulbs have some magic in them13:37
Kilos15w is as bright as 60w incandescent13:39
Kilosi think thats the right word13:39
Kilosoh and microwaves also have magic in them13:41
Kilosyou can shout at an egg all day and nothing happens13:41
Kilosput the egg in a microwave and see what happens13:42
ThatGraemeGuylol14:22
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: I'm going to spend my weekend shouting at eggs now14:23
Kiloslol14:23
ThatGraemeGuyi didn't know you can microwave an egg14:28
ThatGraemeGuytrue story14:28
ThatGraemeGuydoesn't it explode?14:28
Kilosit explodes14:28
Kiloshehe14:28
ThatGraemeGuyat thought it might14:28
Kiloshmm... whats broken now15:03
Kiloshehe15:03
arnaudmez_Nothing15:35
arnaudmez_Kilos: 15:35
arnaudmez_have managed to save my evolution mail to mbox format15:36
arnaudmez_now left, to import them to outlook15:36
Kiloswhew15:37
Kilosive just gone to thunderbird mail and its quite good15:37
Kilosvery much lighter than evo15:38
Kiloswow nlsthzn   you still here, well done15:51
Kilosnuvolari  maak bietjie tyd die naweek om hier te kuier ook hoor15:52
Kiloshttp://linuxpadawan.net/16:00
Kilosit's a mentoring service for all Linux users.16:00
Kiloswbb16:06
arnaudmez_Kilos: yeah you right but I personally don't like THB16:26
Kiloswb arnaudmez_  whats news16:26
arnaudmez_The UI doesn't inspire16:26
Kilosi dont either but i found it is easier to get working with an @ubuntu.com adderss than evo16:27
Kilosoh you must talk to inetpro  he has it all figured out. one can change lots16:27
arnaudmez_Yeah16:28
georgelappieshi Kilos16:51
Kiloshi georgelappies  16:51
Kilosall good by you?16:54
georgelappiesgood thanks16:55
Kiloswhere are you again?16:55
georgelappiestraffic was crazy tonight16:55
Kilossecunda16:55
georgelappiesno, in Sunninghill16:56
georgelappiestraffic never gets bad in Secunda ;p16:56
Kilosjozi16:56
Kiloslol16:56
georgelappiesyeah Jozi16:56
georgelappieshere for a project16:56
Kilosjozi traffic is always bad16:56
georgelappiesyeah, with load shedding even worse16:57
georgelappieswith no traffic it is a 10 min drive, took me more than an hour tonight16:58
Kilosbut if you are in jozi for a project where did you come from16:58
georgelappiesthe worst thing is the aggravation of the fellow motorists16:58
georgelappiesI am based in Secunda16:58
Kilosah 16:58
georgelappiesworking in Sunninghill from Monday to Thursday, but had to work today and tomorrow as well16:59
Kilosaha16:59
Kiloswell  enjoy it16:59
Kilosi dont like jozi at all16:59
georgelappiesjozi sucks yeah16:59
Kilosi go eat17:00
Kiloswbb17:00
Kiloshmm...17:27
Kiloshi barrydk  17:30
Kilossee mazal hy moenie sy games werk vergeet nie asb17:31
Kiloshi SilverCode  17:52
Kilosso inetpro  are you away for the weekend again17:53
Kilosevening superfly  18:58
superflyhi Kilos18:58
Kilostheblazehen  ping19:07
Kilosoh my, these young peeps even busy on friday nights19:12
inetprogood evening 20:34
inetprooh and hi oom Kilos20:34
Kiloshi inetpro  20:34
inetprowhy up so late?20:34
Kilosi was caught again today20:34
inetprocaught?20:34
Kilosya man gevang20:35
Kilosnight all. sleep tight21:27
Squirm'lo22:12
Squirmfp22:16
Squirmsp22:16
Squirmgnight22:16

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