[04:28] <barrydk> More almal
[04:30] <Symmetria> ek kan nie a woord van afrikaans praat of verstaan nie ;p
[04:30] <Symmetria> so wat se jy?
[04:30] <Symmetria> ;p
[04:51] <barrydk> I said good morning to every one Symmetria
[05:10] <pieter2627> morning barrydk 
[05:16] <pieter2627> morning Kilos
[05:17] <Kilos> morning pieter2627  hows you today?
[05:17] <pieter2627> fantastic ty, and you?
[05:17] <Kilos> im good ty, just wondering if im gonna be loadshed at 8 again
[05:18] <pieter2627> haha, did the 4pm one hit you yesterday?
[05:18] <Kilos> no only the 8 am one
[05:20] <pieter2627> i was kind of disappointed to also miss it
[05:21] <Kilos> i just worry the sheeding is going to mess up my only 100%good drive as well
[05:21] <Kilos> shedding
[05:22] <Kilos> oh i wanted to ask you as well about ram
[05:22] <Kilos> hmm...
[05:23] <Kilos> is the samsung notebook memory the same
[05:24] <pieter2627> depends...
[05:25] <pieter2627> older ones will be ddr2, and i think even older mem types for the more older one
[05:26] <Kilos> i see my supplier has the ddr3 for R269 for 2g
[05:26] <Kilos> what make is your lappy
[05:26] <pieter2627> that's not too bad... msi (ddr3)
[05:27] <Kilos> SAMSUNG 2GB DRR3 PC3- 10600 1333MHZ SODIMM
[05:27] <pieter2627> last i checked takealot had for around R230
[05:27] <pieter2627> so am constantly eyeing them
[05:29] <pieter2627> it is weird how most sell the 1333MHZ's
[05:30] <Kilos> what is yours
[05:31] <pieter2627> 1600MHZ
[05:31] <Kilos> ai!
[05:32] <pieter2627> or so says `dmidecode` (it lists the wrong number of slots)
[05:33] <Kilos> SAMSUNG 8GB DDR3 1600MHZ SODIMM, 1.35V LOW POWERED
[05:34] <pieter2627> i'm brasing myself
[05:34] <Kilos> thats a lot of money for ram
[05:34] <Kilos> but 8g is lekker
[05:35] <pieter2627> hey it is (you forgot the price)
[05:35] <Kilos> R899
[05:35] <pieter2627> s/hey/yea/
[05:36] <pieter2627> ouch, takealot still seems the best (for R833)
[05:36] <Kilos> the pricelist opens here on libreoffice calc and copy paste not easy
[05:37] <Kilos> and your cpu speed?
[05:37] <pieter2627> or maybe they aren't with this one (theirs is actually R932)
[05:38] <pieter2627> 1800Mhz (Dual ivery)
[05:38] <Kilos> ai!
[05:39] <Kilos> im running 12.04 on my old pc with 2g ram but its at least a 3g cpu
[05:39] <Kilos> ddr ram too
[05:40] <Kilos> its slow but doesnt hang
[05:40] <pieter2627> this cpu outperforms my old 2.8Mhz
[05:41] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:41] <Kilos> so just ram needed then
[05:42] <pieter2627> yes, (i can't actually remember seeing the cpu at 100% lately)
[05:43] <Jacques_Stry> Morning all
[05:43] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry  
[05:43] <pieter2627> morning Jacques_Stry 
[05:44] <Symmetria> mmm
[05:44] <Symmetria> morning
[05:44] <Symmetria> isn't there an ubuntu release today?
[05:44] <Kilos> hi Symmetria  
[05:44] <Jacques_Stry> 15.04 RC was yesterday
[05:44] <Kilos> yesterday wasnt it
[05:44] <Symmetria> aahh when is the final?
[05:44] <Symmetria> RC is always pretty small 
[05:44] <Jacques_Stry> Next week friday
[05:44] <Jacques_Stry> Thursday*
[05:45] <Jacques_Stry> If you want to install the current RC: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/daily-live/20150416/
[05:46] <Symmetria> heh, nah, not wanting to install it, just watcing traffic on the mirror servers
[05:46] <Jacques_Stry> lol
[05:46] <Jacques_Stry> forgot you manage that :)
[05:48] <mealso> hi Symmetria 
[05:50]  * Kilos better shutdown old machine before im shed
[05:50] <mealso> bye now
[05:50] <Jacques_Stry> B
[05:51] <Symmetria> holy crap
[05:51] <Symmetria> the ubuntu mirror server
[05:51] <Symmetria> is doing between 250 and 300 hits a second
[05:51] <Kilos> whew
[05:52] <Symmetria> and on occcasion hitting up to 370 hits a second
[05:52] <Jacques_Stry> :)
[05:53] <Kilos> ubuntu is actually going stronger than ever
[05:53] <Kilos> only peeps have forgotten irc
[05:53] <pieter2627> is that sa only?
[05:53] <Symmetria> pieter2627 east africa 
[05:53] <Symmetria> aalston@mirror:~$ tail -f /var/log/apache2/ubuntu-archive.log |pv -l -i3 -r -a -t >/dev/null
[05:53] <Symmetria> 0:00:36 [ 279/s] [ 290/s]
[05:54] <Kilos> Symmetria  you clever
[05:54] <Symmetria> heh, refreshing every 3 seconds, time counter is time I've been looking, second column is average hits per second and third is the rate in the last 3 seconds
[05:54] <Kilos> how can you remind them all about irc
[05:54] <Kilos> #ubuntu-africa is the channel to point to
[05:55] <pieter2627> wow, what was the past figures?
[05:55] <Symmetria> pieter2627 thats current figures as we speak
[05:55] <pieter2627> and previous (rc) releases?
[05:56] <Symmetria> hard to say, even on a normal day we're running at 200+ hits a second though
[05:56] <Symmetria> heh, on full release days that can easily cross a thousand
[05:57]  * pieter2627 is amazed O_O
[05:58] <Kilos> Symmetria  answer me man
[05:58] <Symmetria> Kilos heh, I have no idea how to get people back onto irc
[05:58] <Symmetria> facebook/twitter killed the irc star :(
[05:58] <Kilos> well think
[05:58] <Kilos> ya
[05:59] <Kilos> and i dont like either of them
[05:59] <Kilos> i think im about to be shed
[05:59] <Kilos> Maaz  watch them
[05:59] <Maaz> oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[06:00] <Jacques_Stry> I'm shedding at 11
[06:00] <Kilos> i can never find my area to check
[06:00] <pieter2627> Kilos: it is not cold enough yet to start shedding leaves :P
[06:01] <Kilos> 6ks west of mahem
[06:01] <Kilos> haha
[06:02] <Symmetria> lol at least you can tell kinda when you gonan get loadshed
[06:02] <Symmetria> in Kenya they just randomly fucking turn it off
[06:02] <Symmetria> ;p
[06:03] <Symmetria> heh my power at home went out this morning at 5:17am and still isnt back ;(
[06:03] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[06:03] <Kilos> ai!
[06:04] <Kilos> hi lin  
[06:04] <lin> hehe
[06:04] <lin> kilos
[06:04] <lin> hi
[06:06] <Kilos> i forget where you are located lin
[06:07]  * Kilos needs a young sectretary with a good memory
[06:07] <Kilos> secretary
[06:07] <Kilos> daai mooi meisies
[06:08] <pieter2627> ... and good spellign
[06:08] <pieter2627> ;P
[06:08] <Kilos> haha
[06:08] <Kilos> my spelling is fine, its my fingers that forget where to go
[06:09] <pieter2627> oh yea forgot... she need smooth fingers?
[06:09] <Kilos> lol
[06:10] <Kilos> wow looks like they forgot to shed me
[06:10] <Kilos> so it will be this avy then
[06:10] <lin> I'm in Kenya, Kilos 
[06:11] <Kilos> ty lin im gonna add you in my list for there now
[06:11] <pieter2627> or they stopped since yesterday since there was none yesterday afternoon either
[06:12] <Kilos> hold thumbs
[06:13] <SilverCode> anyone here know how to configure Network Up Tools to force a shutdown when it goes on battery, instead of when it gets low battery?
[06:13] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:13] <inetpro> oh and hi to oom Kilos
[06:14] <Kilos> lol hi there inetpro  
[06:14] <Kilos> and plustwo  
[06:15] <plustwo> mornin all
[06:15] <Kilos> lin you should visit #ubuntu-ke now and again too, poor tribaal is lonesome there
[06:15] <pieter2627> hi plustwo 
[06:15] <plustwo> hi pieter2627oom Kilos
[06:18] <Kilos> bad news when the main topic of the day is loadshedding
[06:28] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:31] <Kilos> Symmetria  maybe you can get this link out further than i can https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams
[06:54] <Squirm> morning
[06:54]  * Jacques_Stry waves
[06:54] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[06:59]  * Kilos wonders who else would make a good bugsquad canditate
[07:06]  * Jacques_Stry was looking to join the bug squad but still struggling a bit to fix the problems that are on the bugs list
[07:11] <Kilos> there are so many
[07:12] <Kilos> day before yesterday there were still over 1000 on 15.10
[07:12] <Kilos> pieter2627  have you tried using a light weight browser
[07:13] <pieter2627> firefox is lightweight for what i'm doing :P
[07:14] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:14] <Kilos> i dont use the fox at all
[07:14] <pieter2627> i don't really issues when doing normal stuff, just when working hard
[07:15] <Kilos> ok so then dont work hard
[07:15] <pieter2627> i currently rely heavily on its 'tabs group' feature
[07:15] <Kilos> hehe
[07:15] <pieter2627> haha
[07:16] <Kilos> easy does it everytime
[07:17] <pieter2627> am currently downloading kubuntu rc to try it for the next few days
[07:17] <Kilos> kde takes some getting used to but once you are used to it then you dont want to change
[07:24] <Kilos> i think thunderbird is tied into the fox somewhere isnt it
[07:33] <pieter2627> hmm, i think they only share a few things (although i have noticed that fox will stay open after being closed until the bird is closed too)
[07:33] <Kilos> ai!
[07:35] <Kilos> and the stupid bird keeps wanting to compress stuff here but there are like 10 emails only and on a 1TB drive
[07:35] <Kilos> sigh
[07:35] <pieter2627> haha
[07:50] <Kilos> aw he killed it
[08:01] <Kilos> wb pieter2627  
[08:01] <Kilos> and R0ok_  
[08:05] <Squirm> The joys
[08:05] <Squirm> Stage 2 load shedding
[08:05] <Kilos> ai!
[08:13] <Kilos> hmm... someone was learning python
[08:15] <charl> good morning
[08:15] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:15]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:18] <stickyboy> Great success
[08:18] <Kilos> what now stickyboy  
[08:19] <stickyboy> Kilos: Maaz grinding coffee.
[08:19] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:19] <Kilos> hi charl  
[08:19] <charl> Maaz: danke
[08:19] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:19] <charl> hi Kilos 
[08:19] <charl> how are you doing
[08:19] <Kilos> good ty and you
[08:19] <charl> good
[08:20] <charl> what's been happening around here, i haven't been around for a while
[08:21] <charl> i took a month hiatus from freenode
[08:21] <Kilos> eish
[08:21] <Kilos> we been working
[08:21] <charl> sounds good
[08:29] <MaNI> death to eskom :/
[08:36] <Kilos> then we will never have power
[08:37] <Kilos> just a good sjambokking could help though
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> heh
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> it isn't the 80s anymore :-o
[08:43] <Kilos> lol
[08:49] <MaNI> anyone know a solar panel place that sells at reasonable prices? :P
[09:01] <charl> https://www.facebook.com/snowreportsa/photos/a.312313212229373.1073741828.312197008907660/667550900038934/
[09:01] <charl> snow in south africa lol
[09:01] <charl> is this common?
[09:01] <Kilos> in winter ya
[09:01] <Kilos> but a bit early now
[09:01] <charl> indeed
[09:03] <MaNI> its been a bit more common the last 5 years or so
[09:04] <Kilos> blame it on global warming
[09:04] <Kilos> we get the global freezing
[09:04] <charl> yeah i can't remember much snow when i used to live in south africa
[09:04] <charl> it was rare
[09:16] <Kilos> some areas like natal never see snow except on the drakensburg
[09:16] <Kilos> but its moving down lately
[09:26] <MaNI> yeah, cape as well, its usually just the peaks if that, but last 5 years theres been a bit more in lower areas
[09:27] <MaNI> but also these snow report people have been doing a good job of making people aware of it when it does happen I guess, so maybe it's just the media effect at play
[09:28] <magespawn> good morning
[09:28] <Jacques_Stry> MaNI: Try http://www.sustainable.co.za/ for the solar panels
[09:29] <Jacques_Stry> Their prices pretty good I think
[09:30] <MaNI> like R10/watt - http://www.gwstore.co.za/site/info/index.php?type=view_article&id=891 thats the best I've found so far R7/watt
[09:30] <Jacques_Stry> Nice
[09:31] <MaNI> but min order of 25 panels :(
[09:31] <Jacques_Stry> >.<
[09:32] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[09:42] <Kilos> then to work out what inverter you will need too
[09:42] <Kilos> http://www.sustainable.co.za/solar-power/solar-inverters.html
[09:44] <MaNI2> yeah
[09:46] <MaNI2> huge price fluctuation between brands on inverters
[09:50] <Kilos> https://mrzonbu.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/how-much-power-does-your-desktop-pc-use/
[09:50] <Kilos> he says under 175 watts but i dont know if that includes the screen
[09:51] <MaNI> I doubt my desktop pc resembles the average one at all :P
[09:51] <Kilos> ah youve built up your own
[09:51] <Jacques_Stry> lol my home pc uses allot more
[09:52] <Jacques_Stry> when playing games it consumes 400-450w
[09:52] <Kilos> i thinks the 175 watts in box only
[09:52] <Kilos> is
[09:52] <Kilos> havent found what screens use
[09:53] <MaNI> well I have 10 hard drives in it for starters :P
[09:53] <Jacques_Stry> No a standard office pc with 18.5 inch screen uses about 175-200w
[09:53] <MaNI> and yeah I'm sure if your graphics card is in full draw it will pull a much larger load
[09:53] <Kilos> no man the screen runs off ac
[09:53] <Jacques_Stry> thats a pentium duel core with on-board graphics and 4gb ram
[09:53] <Jacques_Stry> We tested is when we got quotes for generators
[09:54] <Kilos> but take it as max of 500w for box then find whats screens use
[09:54] <MaNI> theres a site somewhere where you can put actual components for more realsitic estimate
[09:54] <Jacques_Stry> screen and case used 175-200 in office use
[09:54] <MaNI> its like 30w per harddrive or something
[09:54] <MaNI> but you can use your power supply as an upper limit
[09:55] <MaNI> if its a 400w power supply you can't possibly be using more than 400w etc.
[09:55] <Jacques_Stry> Hard drives are usually about 10-15w per hdd
[09:55] <MaNI> screens are about 170w I think
[09:55] <Kilos> wow so min
[09:56] <Jacques_Stry> Where you  guys getting these figures from >.<
[09:56] <MaNI> less
[09:57] <MaNI> 45w
[09:57] <MaNI> http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-syncmaster-2333sw/specs/
[09:57] <Kilos> https://mrzonbu.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/how-much-power-does-your-desktop-pc-use/
[09:57] <Jacques_Stry> 18.5 uses about 20w if a modern led
[09:57] <Kilos> hehe
[09:57] <MaNI> had 170w in my head but thats probably from old CRTs
[09:57] <Jacques_Stry> http://www.lg.com/ae/monitors/lg-19M35A/technical-specifications
[09:58] <Jacques_Stry> Active power consumption `13w
[09:58] <Kilos> i would have thought the screen uses more
[09:58] <MaNI> its just a fancy light :P
[09:59] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn  
[09:59] <nlsthzn> hey uncle Kilos ... 
[10:00] <Kilos> what does the ... mean
[10:00]  * Jacques_Stry waves
[10:01] <MaNI> http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp < can use something like that to get a reasonable estimate for a specific pc
[10:02] <nlsthzn> ... it means ... that I ... pressed the . three times ...
[10:02]  * nlsthzn also waves and also ...
[10:03]  * Jacques_Stry ...
[10:07] <Kilos> hehe
[10:10] <Kilos> sjoe too much rtfs
[10:11] <Kilos> hahaha nlsthzn  i meant does the ... have anything to add to the greeting man
[10:13] <Kilos> like maybe hello and now stop nagging me
[10:13] <Kilos> ek sukkel met my volk partykeer
[10:19] <charl> have a good weekend all
[11:19] <Kilos> i go eat
[12:28] <Kilos> hi spinza  why you been so quiet
[12:28] <Kilos> busy is a feeble excuse
[12:31] <Kilos> unless expanded upon
[12:53] <MaNI> does anyone know any south african companies that sell DC-DC ATX power supplies? like e.g. http://www.powerstream.com/DC-PC-12V-500.htm
[13:18] <magespawn> W=V*I
[13:19] <magespawn> Kilos: ^
[13:20] <magespawn> Watts (W) = Volts (V) * Amps (I)
[13:20] <Kilos> ya
[13:21] <magespawn> so on this small screen i have here W = 240V * 1Amp
[13:21] <magespawn> so 240W
[13:21] <Kilos> thats about all i remember from before
[13:21] <magespawn> but that is an old screen
[13:22] <Kilos> where did you get the info
[13:22] <Kilos> and your voltage is 22o
[13:22] <Kilos> ptown is the only place with 240 i think
[13:23] <Kilos> and it is normally 230 and odd bits
[13:23] <Kilos> v=i/r
[13:23] <Squirm> Stick with 220v
[13:24] <magespawn> the screen is rated for 110-240V so in this case the lower your supply the less you will use, ironic
[13:25] <Kilos> lol
[13:26] <magespawn> and i would thing the same applies to most appliances that convert the ac to dc
[13:26] <Kilos> ya
[13:26] <Kilos> ohms law
[13:27] <Kilos> i dont think anyone has found a way to corrupt that yet
[13:37] <Kilos> only energy saving bulbs have some magic in them
[13:39] <Kilos> 15w is as bright as 60w incandescent
[13:39] <Kilos> i think thats the right word
[13:41] <Kilos> oh and microwaves also have magic in them
[13:41] <Kilos> you can shout at an egg all day and nothing happens
[13:42] <Kilos> put the egg in a microwave and see what happens
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[14:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: I'm going to spend my weekend shouting at eggs now
[14:23] <Kilos> lol
[14:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> i didn't know you can microwave an egg
[14:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> true story
[14:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> doesn't it explode?
[14:28] <Kilos> it explodes
[14:28] <Kilos> hehe
[14:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> at thought it might
[15:03] <Kilos> hmm... whats broken now
[15:03] <Kilos> hehe
[15:35] <arnaudmez_> Nothing
[15:35] <arnaudmez_> Kilos: 
[15:36] <arnaudmez_> have managed to save my evolution mail to mbox format
[15:36] <arnaudmez_> now left, to import them to outlook
[15:37] <Kilos> whew
[15:37] <Kilos> ive just gone to thunderbird mail and its quite good
[15:38] <Kilos> very much lighter than evo
[15:51] <Kilos> wow nlsthzn   you still here, well done
[15:52] <Kilos> nuvolari  maak bietjie tyd die naweek om hier te kuier ook hoor
[16:00] <Kilos> http://linuxpadawan.net/
[16:00] <Kilos> it's a mentoring service for all Linux users.
[16:06] <Kilos> wbb
[16:26] <arnaudmez_> Kilos: yeah you right but I personally don't like THB
[16:26] <Kilos> wb arnaudmez_  whats news
[16:26] <arnaudmez_> The UI doesn't inspire
[16:27] <Kilos> i dont either but i found it is easier to get working with an @ubuntu.com adderss than evo
[16:27] <Kilos> oh you must talk to inetpro  he has it all figured out. one can change lots
[16:28] <arnaudmez_> Yeah
[16:51] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[16:51] <Kilos> hi georgelappies  
[16:54] <Kilos> all good by you?
[16:55] <georgelappies> good thanks
[16:55] <Kilos> where are you again?
[16:55] <georgelappies> traffic was crazy tonight
[16:55] <Kilos> secunda
[16:56] <georgelappies> no, in Sunninghill
[16:56] <georgelappies> traffic never gets bad in Secunda ;p
[16:56] <Kilos> jozi
[16:56] <Kilos> lol
[16:56] <georgelappies> yeah Jozi
[16:56] <georgelappies> here for a project
[16:56] <Kilos> jozi traffic is always bad
[16:57] <georgelappies> yeah, with load shedding even worse
[16:58] <georgelappies> with no traffic it is a 10 min drive, took me more than an hour tonight
[16:58] <Kilos> but if you are in jozi for a project where did you come from
[16:58] <georgelappies> the worst thing is the aggravation of the fellow motorists
[16:58] <georgelappies> I am based in Secunda
[16:58] <Kilos> ah 
[16:59] <georgelappies> working in Sunninghill from Monday to Thursday, but had to work today and tomorrow as well
[16:59] <Kilos> aha
[16:59] <Kilos> well  enjoy it
[16:59] <Kilos> i dont like jozi at all
[16:59] <georgelappies> jozi sucks yeah
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:00] <Kilos> wbb
[17:27] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:30] <Kilos> hi barrydk  
[17:31] <Kilos> see mazal hy moenie sy games werk vergeet nie asb
[17:52] <Kilos> hi SilverCode  
[17:53] <Kilos> so inetpro  are you away for the weekend again
[18:58] <Kilos> evening superfly  
[18:58] <superfly> hi Kilos
[19:07] <Kilos> theblazehen  ping
[19:12] <Kilos> oh my, these young peeps even busy on friday nights
[20:34] <inetpro> good evening 
[20:34] <inetpro> oh and hi oom Kilos
[20:34] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[20:34] <inetpro> why up so late?
[20:34] <Kilos> i was caught again today
[20:34] <inetpro> caught?
[20:35] <Kilos> ya man gevang
[21:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[22:12] <Squirm> 'lo
[22:16] <Squirm> fp
[22:16] <Squirm> sp
[22:16] <Squirm> gnight