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psusithat's the thing... of course it is... I can play h264 videos with totem, and chrome01:29
psusiit's just firefox that has the problem01:29
bandit-awaket02:19
BluefoxicyI hate column writers02:41
Bluefoxicythe 5 biggest changes in Ubuntu 15.0402:42
Bluefoxicy4) Still using Unity 7 for the desktop02:42
BluefoxicyTHAT'S NOT A CHANGE, DUMBASS02:42
Bluefoxicyand Kernel update isn't a big update02:42
Bluefoxicyit's a big update when it's Linux 4.0 with no-reboot patching02:43
Bluefoxicyalso one of these is "updated applications"02:43
Bluefoxicyyour new software comes with new software, one of the biggest changes you'll notice02:43
BluefoxicyI should buy a friggin' lwn subscription02:43
DaekdroomThere probably aren't 5 big changes in Ubuntu 15.0402:43
BluefoxicyDaekdroom: yes but what the hell?02:47
BluefoxicyZDNet lists "using the same desktop as the last version" as a change02:48
DaekdroomI'm not excusing lazy journalism.02:48
DaekdroomBesides, that is such a change the exact same thing happened in 14.10 :P02:48
Bluefoxicyheh yeah02:51
Bluefoxicyi found the 14.10 upgrade lackluster:  the only thing I really noticed was my graphics driver became shit.02:51
Bluefoxicyit's still shit.02:51
BluefoxicyIt was fantastic and snappy and stable in 14.04.  When I moved to 14.10, it would actively crash.  It doesn't crash anymore, but Chrome does crash; it sticks and lags when in use, which is why I no longer use Rhythmbox (which causes such lag as to softlock my workstation and require a power cycle)02:52
BluefoxicyI filed a bug, and they told me my bios obviously needed updating.  I did that (it wasn't easy!  Somehow you have to boot DOS, without floppy drives; the original bios utility would fail if you used memdisk), and it's still broken; but Atlas shrugged, and nobody gives a shit if Intel HD2000 graphics don't work.02:53
BluefoxicyI'm hoping the new 15.04 kernel actually works, because otherwise I'll still have a buggy, broken OS to deal with, and I'm sure filing a bug is useless.02:53
* Bluefoxicy vent.02:54
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lordievaderGood morning.09:06
MoonUnit`lordievader: did that blokes audio get sorted out last night?10:05
lordievaderHe removed PA, lost interest after that.10:29
elfypeople do that a lot ... I read something from 6 years ago that said PA was bad, so ...10:31
elfyI'm sure that people did have issues with it - must have been lucky here ;)10:32
lordievaderPA can be annoying. People's reaction to just remove it is, in my opinion, way too blunt and not a whole lot of fun.10:32
lordievaderPA was very annoying in the beginning. But lately I've began to enjoy it.10:33
elfyas I said - must have been lucky here, never had any problems with it10:34
MoonUnit`i remove it for my htpc but had no problem on the desktop.10:41
BluesKajHowdy all11:58
vitimitiFine11:59
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: hello13:37
MonkeyDustlotuspsychje13:57
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: add discuss to your favs mate :p13:57
lotuspsychjeMonkeyDust: #ubuntu-discuss that is14:15
MoPacHello. I've experienced a reversion sometime during the 15.04 development that has affected how signals from my laptop's hardware sensors are interpreted. Nobody has taken official interest in the bug report (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1438422), so I'm hoping that someone here might be able to point me to where to look for sensor / hardware switch config17:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1438422 in urfkill (Ubuntu) "Hybrid laptop's accelerometer tilt interpreted as WiFi hardware switch" [Undecided,New]17:13
MoPac(so I might try to make a more detailed diagnosis myself)17:13
penguin42oh that's quite a funny bug17:29
* penguin42 added a question17:32
MoPacpenguin42: That's a good point; I'll try booting with the other kernel18:13
MoPac##kernel hadn't been interested in the question, so I had been thinking that maybe it wasn't that after all, but I should have tested18:14
MoPacpenguin42: Tested 3.16.0-29 .  Bug stayed the same. Posted info in Launchpad18:26
penguin42MoPac: Do you have an /etc/urfkill - and if so what is it's contents?18:37
MoPachardware.conf  profile  urfkill.conf  -- should I make pastes of them?18:38
penguin42MoPac: Well, I don't know much about urfkill, but is there anything in there that looks like it could be relevant to saying what buttons it does etc?18:39
MoPacpenguin42: not necessarily to my untrained eye.  Here's everything in that folder http://paste.ubuntu.com/10846302/ . It has general information about key control, but it's hard for me to tell (a) whether I need to set something different or (b) why, even given that I don't have a hardware switch and it's looking for one, it would mistake the accelerometer18:45
MoPacI've also noticed that I have an airplane mode key that no longer seems to do anything on this device, whereas I think used to get an "airplane mode" notification when I toggled it18:51
penguin42MoPac: Yeh, I suspect the airplane thing is the same problem - that's the thing that's supposed to trigger the rfkill18:56

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