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lotuspsychjehttp://linux.softpedia.com/blog/System76-Unveils-Powerful-Desktop-Computer-Powered-by-Ubuntu-14-10-478631.shtml04:18
hopefullythisnichey psycho?04:20
lotuspsychjeyep04:20
lotuspsychjewb04:20
hopefullythisnicty, i havent used irc in FOREVER so i couldnt remember the damn command to connect to another channel04:21
lotuspsychjehopefullythisnic: did you see this one : http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/System76-Unveils-Powerful-Desktop-Computer-Powered-by-Ubuntu-14-10-478631.shtml04:21
lotuspsychjei like xchat for irc04:21
hopefullythisnicyea i have hexchat on my windows os lol04:21
lotuspsychje:p04:22
hopefullythisnicwhat kind of machine are you running?04:22
lotuspsychjeim currently on an acer netbook ubuntu 14.04.2 64bit with samsung evo 84004:22
lotuspsychje(sec boot/3sec halt04:22
hopefullythisniccool04:23
lotuspsychjebut im gonna open an ubuntu computer shop in my country soon04:23
hopefullythisnicwhereabouts are you located?04:23
lotuspsychjebelgium04:23
hopefullythisnicoh, interesting04:23
lotuspsychjenot many shops do ubuntu here04:24
hopefullythisnici bet you could work out some sort of deal with sys7604:24
lotuspsychjeyes but better lol04:24
hopefullythisnicyea04:24
lotuspsychjelaptops/desktops/tablets/phones all with ubuntu04:24
hopefullythisnicoh nice04:24
hopefullythisnicis the full phone os out yet?04:24
lotuspsychjei got myself nexus7 with touch works smooth04:24
lotuspsychjeyes04:24
hopefullythisnicoh04:24
lotuspsychjeubuntu touch04:24
hopefullythisnicnice04:24
lotuspsychjeand 2 phone brands are out04:25
hopefullythisnicorly?04:25
lotuspsychjeBQ and meizu will follow soon04:25
hopefullythisnicim in the market for a new phone04:25
hopefullythisnicshould i wait?04:25
lotuspsychjeyou can buy a Bq right now04:25
hopefullythisnicGonna look that up, se04:25
hopefullythisnic'*sec04:25
lotuspsychjehttp://store.bq.com/es/ubuntu-edition-e-4-504:26
lotuspsychje169 euro04:26
hopefullythisnicim in the us tho04:27
lotuspsychjeoh04:27
lotuspsychjethen you cant order04:27
hopefullythisnicyea04:27
lotuspsychjeyoull have to wait the meizu then04:27
hopefullythisniccant i put it on android hardware myself?04:27
lotuspsychjeonly nexus devices yes04:28
hopefullythisnicdamn04:28
lotuspsychjei hear nexus 4 and 5 run pretty smooth04:28
lotuspsychjeand one guy have a project on oneplusone phone04:28
hopefullythisnicohh04:28
hopefullythisnicnice04:28
hopefullythisnici was looking at that anyway04:28
lotuspsychjehe recently got wifi working on it04:28
hopefullythisnicoh, he must be a ways off then lol04:29
lotuspsychjeyou can idle in #ubuntu-touch for that04:29
hopefullythisnicalrighty04:29
lotuspsychjethe guy is mariogrip, if you got questions04:29
hopefullythisnicbrb, just gonna go find a spare hdd and reinstall windows while im talking to you04:29
lotuspsychjekk04:30
hopefullythisnicits okay if i use a usb hdd right?04:30
hopefullythisnici dont feel like takin it apart again lol04:30
lotuspsychjeto dualboot with ubuntu?04:30
hopefullythisnicactually04:30
hopefullythisnicthat04:30
hopefullythisnicthat's dumb04:30
hopefullythisnicill just grab a real hdd\04:30
hopefullythisnicsec04:31
lotuspsychje!dualboot | hopefullythisnic04:31
ubot5hopefullythisnic: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot04:31
hopefullythisnicdisassembling now, sorry for bein antisocial lol04:39
lotuspsychjedont worry im afk and idle alot too04:40
hopefullythisnick whew04:59
hopefullythisnicthats done04:59
hopefullythisnicits hot as hell rn05:00
hopefullythisnicsomehow i manged to slice my fingers open on a stick of ram :(05:01
daftykinsouch!05:14
daftykinsi did that once building a PC for my brother05:14
daftykins"erm, sorry about the blood covered RAM..."05:14
daftykinshilariously the blood went in finger print patterns too05:15
daftykinsdefinitely not one of my crowning moments in hardware ;)05:15
hopefullythisniclol05:17
hopefullythisnicokay why wont this boot into the windows installation disk anymore05:17
hopefullythisnicugh05:17
lotuspsychjeset cdrom as first boot05:19
lotuspsychjeor maybe uefi settings in bios05:19
daftykinsboot priority is a waste of time really, one-time boot menus make more sense05:19
daftykins(if available)05:19
hopefullythisnicyea but i dont see it in uefi bios rn05:23
daftykinsoptical or flash drive?05:26
hopefullythisnicoptical05:31
daftykinshmm, reduce it back to the minimal configuration without any HDDs or SSDs plugged in05:34
daftykinsand see if it auto goes to the optical to boot05:35
daftykinsand ensure the optical (if SATA presumably) is connected to motherboard chipset based SATA and not a third party controller chip such as lots often have to provide more ports05:35
ki7mtBob, try: sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL  .. that should list them all.06:55
ki7mtWhoops, sorry wrong channel06:55
daftykins:D06:55
ki7mtPost in the channel pse Bob, try: sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL  .. that should list them all06:56
ki7mtIt did it again !!! I think my IRC client is FUBAR :-)06:57
ki7mtre-launch time me thinks06:58
lordievaderGood morning.09:06
daftykinso/09:07
daftykinshow are you, lordievader ?09:07
lordievaderHey daftykins, doing good here. How are you?09:08
daftykinsalso good here thanks :)09:09
daftykinsa fine morning it is09:09
BluesKajHowdy all11:58
BluesKaj'Morning lotuspsychje12:45
OerHeks\o/12:46
OerHeksMy dogs think it is too hot outside12:46
BluesKajhey OerHeks12:46
OerHekshi BluesKaj12:46
BluesKajmaybe your dogs are right :)12:47
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: hello mate12:49
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: hi12:49
BluesKajthink I'm going to do a clean install of Kubuntu 15.04 after the official release , my version is mucked up with diiferent colours as default depending on which Qt version they're using12:49
OerHeks22 april openstach seminar, 23 april install 15.04, 24 april find a 4th leg for my large computertable.12:50
BluesKajplasma5 intehration doen't seem to work on my desktop install, the laptop version is fine12:50
OerHeksopenstack*12:50
OerHeksoh, i forget, 20 april payday, so i have 1 day off this week12:51
BluesKajplsama 5 integration of plasma 4 depenent apps l;ike dolphin12:51
lordievaderHave you guys played with Dracut?12:51
lotuspsychjelordievader: whats dracut?12:51
lordievaderCounterpart of initramfs-tools.12:51
lotuspsychjedidnt test myself12:52
BluesKajI'm tempted to reinstall the latest daily12:53
lordievaderIt fails to boot my luks + lvm :(12:54
lordievaderOr it is systemd who fails, not really sure.12:54
BluesKajsddm ?12:54
lordievaderBluesKaj: Was that to me?12:55
BluesKajlordievader, yes12:56
lordievaderThis is at the mounting of the root fs stage. It is a really bare system. Just wanted to see if it boots.12:57
BluesKajok, so you're chrooting12:58
lordievaderNo.12:58
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: keep us up to date on the openstack if it was interesting ok :p12:59
lordievaderDracut or systemd is trying to mount the luks partition but fails or something, I don't know what it is doing. Anyhow was wondering if someone had experience with a dracut + luks + lvm + systemd setup.12:59
OerHeksSure, ticketsale is closed now12:59
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: wow thats fast12:59
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: how much did you pay?13:00
OerHeksNothing. i don't know if there is any fee.13:00
lotuspsychjekk13:00
OerHeksI just want a pic with Mark :-D13:01
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: the snappy part will be interesting for sure13:01
BluesKajoh , luks and lvm, stuff I don't fool around with ...lvm was ok , but I didn't need it13:01
lotuspsychjelordievader: maybe that bootchart package can help you see whats going wrong?13:02
BluesKajOerHeks, why , he's a traitor13:02
lotuspsychje!info bootchart | lordievader13:02
OerHeksno, Dictator :-D13:02
ubot5lordievader: bootchart (source: bootchart): boot sequence auditing. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.90.2-8ubuntu2 (utopic), package size 10 kB, installed size 96 kB13:02
lordievaderlotuspsychje: It is a Gentoo system :P13:03
lordievaderlotuspsychje: And I do not have a filesystem ;) Well an initramfs I suppose, but no real filesystem.13:03
lotuspsychjeoh right13:03
lordievaderFrom what I gather bootchart is included in Dracut.13:04
lotuspsychjecool13:04
lordievaderThat is if you enable the USE flag.13:05
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: set it to favs if you want13:08
lotuspsychjeand if you dont want also :p13:09
* cfhowlett salutes the room with a tip of his tasty beverage13:09
lordievaderHey cfhowlett13:09
cfhowlettlordievader, greetings13:09
* BluesKaj goes to the kitchen for another coffee13:10
lotuspsychjecheck this one: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/System76-Unveils-Powerful-Desktop-Computer-Powered-by-Ubuntu-14-10-478631.shtml13:10
lotuspsychje16gig ram lol13:11
cfhowlettlotuspsychje, if I were in the state and needed a desktop:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/cirrus7-nimbini-ubuntu-pc-announced13:12
lotuspsychjeyeah saw that one13:12
lotuspsychjepretty nice13:13
cfhowlettdefinitely has the cool look factor13:13
BluesKajit can handle 16G RAM,  a la carte options ...749 is pretty expensive for a pc with a free OS , especially with those specs13:13
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: but i would rather choose wich ssd to plugin myself13:14
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: well i guess system76, is the shop for those who cant install ubuntu themselfs on hardware13:14
cfhowlettlotuspsychje, yeah, custom builds are the way to go if possible13:14
lotuspsychjecfhowlett: those intel NUC seems nice too13:15
BluesKajone must remember windows machines are $100 more due to the OS13:15
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: true13:15
lotuspsychjeso the ubuntu machine must get lower prices13:16
lotuspsychjebut they might wanna profit a little also13:16
lotuspsychjethis machine will run for years13:16
BluesKajit's cool looking etc, but a bit pricey for what you gety IMO13:16
lotuspsychjetrue13:16
cfhowlettProfit?  in F/Loss?!  HERETIC!13:16
lotuspsychje:p13:16
* lotuspsychje hopes more barebone companys rise in the future, no Os, no Hd13:17
OerHeksmaas13:17
BluesKajnothing with profit , but this verges on the MAC philosophy , charge like hell and ppl will think their getting something special13:18
BluesKajwrong13:18
cfhowlettBluesKaj, and yet ...13:18
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: indeed, mac is way overrated13:19
BluesKajmy daughter's Imac HDD died , it take 16 steps in the tuorial to replace it13:19
BluesKajso she bought a lenovo :)13:20
lotuspsychjeand the myth it has no virusses is long outdated..13:20
lotuspsychjeim playing with telegram on nexus7 tablet with ubuntu touch and it rocks!13:21
lotuspsychjefree chat over wifi13:22
lotuspsychjeand opensource13:22
lotuspsychjeinstalled the webogram unity icon for desktop also, and works fast n nice13:22
lotuspsychjehttps://telegram.org/13:23
BluesKajlooks like a browser that integrates social media13:28
lotuspsychjeno its just to chat with contacts13:29
lotuspsychjeadd your cell number and add contacts13:29
BluesKajok13:29
lotuspsychjeand can send files to each other13:29
lotuspsychjeits a whatsapp alternative, but more secure13:30
DaekdroomAnd it has an open API13:31
BluesKajI'm a smartphone luddite ..still use an old flip phone13:31
lotuspsychjeDaekdroom: you also use it?13:31
DaekdroomThe android app is far superior to Whatsapp's. It's a shame people don't use Telegram as much, though.13:31
Daekdroomlotuspsychje, I rarely get the chance, but yes.13:31
lotuspsychjenice13:31
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: i dont have smartphone yet either, but i like it on my nexus7 tablet and works with my cell nr13:32
BluesKajlotuspsychje, I'm old and grumpy , and to me smartphones are mostly just gadgets that I'll never need13:40
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: well with ubuntu touch you might like it :p13:40
lotuspsychjei wouldnt buy an android myself13:40
lotuspsychjeplaystore is like a malware nightmare13:41
BluesKajI don't even like Ubuntu, I'm a KDE guy :-)13:41
lotuspsychjeah, there was a kde tablet project, cant remember its name :p13:42
BluesKajit doesn't matter,  my cell phone is turned off even when it's in my pocket  :)13:43
lotuspsychjei also use a cellphone as a regular one13:44
lotuspsychjeleave it at home all the time :p13:44
lotuspsychjeoldskool behaviour :p13:44
OerHeksSometimes i feel like a microbiologist, determination to the real question in #ubuntu14:09
lotuspsychjelol14:09
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: users dont look it 'our' way to investigate14:10
lotuspsychjethey only want a quick fix :p14:10
OerHeksThey sure have the brains to create issues.14:10
lotuspsychjelol14:11
lotuspsychjeone physical issue, and one mental issue to supporters to decipher :p14:11
cfhowlett"just tell me what button to click!"14:12
lotuspsychje:p:p14:12
lotuspsychjethe dd zero button14:12

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