[04:18] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/System76-Unveils-Powerful-Desktop-Computer-Powered-by-Ubuntu-14-10-478631.shtml
[04:20] <hopefullythisnic> hey psycho?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> yep
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> wb
[04:21] <hopefullythisnic> ty, i havent used irc in FOREVER so i couldnt remember the damn command to connect to another channel
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> hopefullythisnic: did you see this one : http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/System76-Unveils-Powerful-Desktop-Computer-Powered-by-Ubuntu-14-10-478631.shtml
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> i like xchat for irc
[04:21] <hopefullythisnic> yea i have hexchat on my windows os lol
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> :p
[04:22] <hopefullythisnic> what kind of machine are you running?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> im currently on an acer netbook ubuntu 14.04.2 64bit with samsung evo 840
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> (sec boot/3sec halt
[04:23] <hopefullythisnic> cool
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> but im gonna open an ubuntu computer shop in my country soon
[04:23] <hopefullythisnic> whereabouts are you located?
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> belgium
[04:23] <hopefullythisnic> oh, interesting
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> not many shops do ubuntu here
[04:24] <hopefullythisnic> i bet you could work out some sort of deal with sys76
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> yes but better lol
[04:24] <hopefullythisnic> yea
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> laptops/desktops/tablets/phones all with ubuntu
[04:24] <hopefullythisnic> oh nice
[04:24] <hopefullythisnic> is the full phone os out yet?
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> i got myself nexus7 with touch works smooth
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> yes
[04:24] <hopefullythisnic> oh
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu touch
[04:24] <hopefullythisnic> nice
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> and 2 phone brands are out
[04:25] <hopefullythisnic> orly?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> BQ and meizu will follow soon
[04:25] <hopefullythisnic> im in the market for a new phone
[04:25] <hopefullythisnic> should i wait?
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> you can buy a Bq right now
[04:25] <hopefullythisnic> Gonna look that up, se
[04:25] <hopefullythisnic> '*sec
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> http://store.bq.com/es/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> 169 euro
[04:27] <hopefullythisnic> im in the us tho
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> oh
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> then you cant order
[04:27] <hopefullythisnic> yea
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> youll have to wait the meizu then
[04:27] <hopefullythisnic> cant i put it on android hardware myself?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> only nexus devices yes
[04:28] <hopefullythisnic> damn
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> i hear nexus 4 and 5 run pretty smooth
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> and one guy have a project on oneplusone phone
[04:28] <hopefullythisnic> ohh
[04:28] <hopefullythisnic> nice
[04:28] <hopefullythisnic> i was looking at that anyway
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> he recently got wifi working on it
[04:29] <hopefullythisnic> oh, he must be a ways off then lol
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> you can idle in #ubuntu-touch for that
[04:29] <hopefullythisnic> alrighty
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> the guy is mariogrip, if you got questions
[04:29] <hopefullythisnic> brb, just gonna go find a spare hdd and reinstall windows while im talking to you
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> kk
[04:30] <hopefullythisnic> its okay if i use a usb hdd right?
[04:30] <hopefullythisnic> i dont feel like takin it apart again lol
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> to dualboot with ubuntu?
[04:30] <hopefullythisnic> actually
[04:30] <hopefullythisnic> that
[04:30] <hopefullythisnic> that's dumb
[04:30] <hopefullythisnic> ill just grab a real hdd\
[04:31] <hopefullythisnic> sec
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | hopefullythisnic
[04:39] <hopefullythisnic> disassembling now, sorry for bein antisocial lol
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> dont worry im afk and idle alot too
[04:59] <hopefullythisnic> k whew
[04:59] <hopefullythisnic> thats done
[05:00] <hopefullythisnic> its hot as hell rn
[05:01] <hopefullythisnic> somehow i manged to slice my fingers open on a stick of ram :(
[05:14] <daftykins> ouch!
[05:14] <daftykins> i did that once building a PC for my brother
[05:14] <daftykins> "erm, sorry about the blood covered RAM..."
[05:15] <daftykins> hilariously the blood went in finger print patterns too
[05:15] <daftykins> definitely not one of my crowning moments in hardware ;)
[05:17] <hopefullythisnic> lol
[05:17] <hopefullythisnic> okay why wont this boot into the windows installation disk anymore
[05:17] <hopefullythisnic> ugh
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> set cdrom as first boot
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> or maybe uefi settings in bios
[05:19] <daftykins> boot priority is a waste of time really, one-time boot menus make more sense
[05:19] <daftykins> (if available)
[05:23] <hopefullythisnic> yea but i dont see it in uefi bios rn
[05:26] <daftykins> optical or flash drive?
[05:31] <hopefullythisnic> optical
[05:34] <daftykins> hmm, reduce it back to the minimal configuration without any HDDs or SSDs plugged in
[05:35] <daftykins> and see if it auto goes to the optical to boot
[05:35] <daftykins> and ensure the optical (if SATA presumably) is connected to motherboard chipset based SATA and not a third party controller chip such as lots often have to provide more ports
[06:55] <ki7mt> Bob, try: sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL  .. that should list them all.
[06:55] <ki7mt> Whoops, sorry wrong channel
[06:55] <daftykins> :D
[06:56] <ki7mt> Post in the channel pse Bob, try: sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL  .. that should list them all
[06:57] <ki7mt> It did it again !!! I think my IRC client is FUBAR :-)
[06:58] <ki7mt> re-launch time me thinks
[09:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:07] <daftykins> o/
[09:07] <daftykins> how are you, lordievader ?
[09:08] <lordievader> Hey daftykins, doing good here. How are you?
[09:09] <daftykins> also good here thanks :)
[09:09] <daftykins> a fine morning it is
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning lotuspsychje
[12:46] <OerHeks> \o/
[12:46] <OerHeks> My dogs think it is too hot outside
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hey OerHeks
[12:46] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[12:47] <BluesKaj> maybe your dogs are right :)
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: hi
[12:49] <BluesKaj> think I'm going to do a clean install of Kubuntu 15.04 after the official release , my version is mucked up with diiferent colours as default depending on which Qt version they're using
[12:50] <OerHeks> 22 april openstach seminar, 23 april install 15.04, 24 april find a 4th leg for my large computertable.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> plasma5 intehration doen't seem to work on my desktop install, the laptop version is fine
[12:50] <OerHeks> openstack*
[12:51] <OerHeks> oh, i forget, 20 april payday, so i have 1 day off this week
[12:51] <BluesKaj> plsama 5 integration of plasma 4 depenent apps l;ike dolphin
[12:51] <lordievader> Have you guys played with Dracut?
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: whats dracut?
[12:51] <lordievader> Counterpart of initramfs-tools.
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> didnt test myself
[12:53] <BluesKaj> I'm tempted to reinstall the latest daily
[12:54] <lordievader> It fails to boot my luks + lvm :(
[12:54] <lordievader> Or it is systemd who fails, not really sure.
[12:54] <BluesKaj> sddm ?
[12:55] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Was that to me?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> lordievader, yes
[12:57] <lordievader> This is at the mounting of the root fs stage. It is a really bare system. Just wanted to see if it boots.
[12:58] <BluesKaj> ok, so you're chrooting
[12:58] <lordievader> No.
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: keep us up to date on the openstack if it was interesting ok :p
[12:59] <lordievader> Dracut or systemd is trying to mount the luks partition but fails or something, I don't know what it is doing. Anyhow was wondering if someone had experience with a dracut + luks + lvm + systemd setup.
[12:59] <OerHeks> Sure, ticketsale is closed now
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: wow thats fast
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: how much did you pay?
[13:00] <OerHeks> Nothing. i don't know if there is any fee.
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> kk
[13:01] <OerHeks> I just want a pic with Mark :-D
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: the snappy part will be interesting for sure
[13:01] <BluesKaj> oh , luks and lvm, stuff I don't fool around with ...lvm was ok , but I didn't need it
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: maybe that bootchart package can help you see whats going wrong?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, why , he's a traitor
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> !info bootchart | lordievader
[13:02] <OerHeks> no, Dictator :-D
[13:03] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: It is a Gentoo system :P
[13:03] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: And I do not have a filesystem ;) Well an initramfs I suppose, but no real filesystem.
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[13:04] <lordievader> From what I gather bootchart is included in Dracut.
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> cool
[13:05] <lordievader> That is if you enable the USE flag.
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: set it to favs if you want
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> and if you dont want also :p
[13:09]  * cfhowlett salutes the room with a tip of his tasty beverage
[13:09] <lordievader> Hey cfhowlett
[13:09] <cfhowlett> lordievader, greetings
[13:10]  * BluesKaj goes to the kitchen for another coffee
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> check this one: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/System76-Unveils-Powerful-Desktop-Computer-Powered-by-Ubuntu-14-10-478631.shtml
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> 16gig ram lol
[13:12] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, if I were in the state and needed a desktop:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/cirrus7-nimbini-ubuntu-pc-announced
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> yeah saw that one
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> pretty nice
[13:13] <cfhowlett> definitely has the cool look factor
[13:13] <BluesKaj> it can handle 16G RAM,  a la carte options ...749 is pretty expensive for a pc with a free OS , especially with those specs
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: but i would rather choose wich ssd to plugin myself
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: well i guess system76, is the shop for those who cant install ubuntu themselfs on hardware
[13:14] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, yeah, custom builds are the way to go if possible
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: those intel NUC seems nice too
[13:15] <BluesKaj> one must remember windows machines are $100 more due to the OS
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: true
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> so the ubuntu machine must get lower prices
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> but they might wanna profit a little also
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> this machine will run for years
[13:16] <BluesKaj> it's cool looking etc, but a bit pricey for what you gety IMO
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> true
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Profit?  in F/Loss?!  HERETIC!
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> :p
[13:17]  * lotuspsychje hopes more barebone companys rise in the future, no Os, no Hd
[13:17] <OerHeks> maas
[13:18] <BluesKaj> nothing with profit , but this verges on the MAC philosophy , charge like hell and ppl will think their getting something special
[13:18] <BluesKaj> wrong
[13:18] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, and yet ...
[13:19] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: indeed, mac is way overrated
[13:19] <BluesKaj> my daughter's Imac HDD died , it take 16 steps in the tuorial to replace it
[13:20] <BluesKaj> so she bought a lenovo :)
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> and the myth it has no virusses is long outdated..
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> im playing with telegram on nexus7 tablet with ubuntu touch and it rocks!
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> free chat over wifi
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> and opensource
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> installed the webogram unity icon for desktop also, and works fast n nice
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> https://telegram.org/
[13:28] <BluesKaj> looks like a browser that integrates social media
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> no its just to chat with contacts
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> add your cell number and add contacts
[13:29] <BluesKaj> ok
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> and can send files to each other
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> its a whatsapp alternative, but more secure
[13:31] <Daekdroom> And it has an open API
[13:31] <BluesKaj> I'm a smartphone luddite ..still use an old flip phone
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> Daekdroom: you also use it?
[13:31] <Daekdroom> The android app is far superior to Whatsapp's. It's a shame people don't use Telegram as much, though.
[13:31] <Daekdroom> lotuspsychje, I rarely get the chance, but yes.
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> nice
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: i dont have smartphone yet either, but i like it on my nexus7 tablet and works with my cell nr
[13:40] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, I'm old and grumpy , and to me smartphones are mostly just gadgets that I'll never need
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: well with ubuntu touch you might like it :p
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> i wouldnt buy an android myself
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> playstore is like a malware nightmare
[13:41] <BluesKaj> I don't even like Ubuntu, I'm a KDE guy :-)
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> ah, there was a kde tablet project, cant remember its name :p
[13:43] <BluesKaj> it doesn't matter,  my cell phone is turned off even when it's in my pocket  :)
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> i also use a cellphone as a regular one
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> leave it at home all the time :p
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> oldskool behaviour :p
[14:09] <OerHeks> Sometimes i feel like a microbiologist, determination to the real question in #ubuntu
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: users dont look it 'our' way to investigate
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> they only want a quick fix :p
[14:10] <OerHeks> They sure have the brains to create issues.
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> one physical issue, and one mental issue to supporters to decipher :p
[14:12] <cfhowlett> "just tell me what button to click!"
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> :p:p
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> the dd zero button