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lzkillmy brand new sandisk extreme pen drive makes the network freezes whenever it's inserted... it's NTFS formatted and contains a folder encrypted with EFS... what could be the relationship here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10841703/01:15
lzkilli'm on 14.04 LTS, by the way01:16
holsteinlzkill: could be anything hardware related.. do other "pen drives" do the same? does the same stick do the same thing formatted differently? or unencrypted?02:06
lzkillholstein: other sticks don't do it. this sandisk comes FAT32 from factory and at first it was just fine, what makes me think it's sth with the NTFS...02:12
holsteinsure.. since, i would want/need the data backed up to a different location, regardless, i would backup, make sure i have the data in a few locations, and, try isolating the variables, and testing02:13
holsteinformat another "known good" stick with the same format you have, and format the "bad" stick with something else.. and, mount that stick on a live iso, and as another user.. and with other live iso's as well.. to isolate my installed system, my user config, and my current system's kernel, etc02:14
holsteinyou can also ask in #ubuntu for a larger audience, and better chance of support, since, its not related to xfce or xubuntu directly02:15
lzkillholstein: I'll try that and return to let you know what I've found... thanks!02:19
xubuntu398Hi?08:28
cfhowlettho?08:29
xubuntu398I need to ask a question about xubuntu08:29
cfhowlett!ask08:29
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:29
xubuntu398ok, are there software simulator of electronic circuit for xubuntu?08:30
cfhowlettxubuntu398, there is ... don't remember the name.  let me look08:30
xubuntu398I'd like to use "LTspice" or something like this08:31
cfhowlettxubuntu398, no idea what that is but see tkgate08:32
xubuntu398if I have a 64bit processor, may I use xubuntu?08:35
cfhowlettxubuntu398, of course08:35
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xubuntu398which are advantage and problems to use xubuntu endeed of ubuntu08:37
cfhowlett!flavors | ubuntu398, xubuntu is optimized for low spec and legacy hardware08:38
ubottuubuntu398, xubuntu is optimized for low spec and legacy hardware: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.08:38
xubuntu398Thanks, but I mean, what is better? May I prefer xubuntu for a 64bit, and why?08:40
bekksThere is no reason for not choosing 64bit when the hardware is 64bit capable.08:40
cfhowlettxubuntu398, "better" is up to the user.  Choose the one you like best = "better" "best"08:41
xubuntu398sorry, I mean. If xubuntu is optimized for low spec pc; there are good reasons to use xubuntu on pc with high spec?08:42
cfhowlettxubuntu398, see no reason to.  no reason not to.  Decide for yourself.08:43
bekksIf something runs good on a low spec hardware, it runs good on a high spec hardware, too. I second cfhowlett,it is your decision.08:44
xubuntu398xubuntu use low space of RAMs, so I image to have more RAMs for my applications. Is it correct?08:45
knomexubuntu398, xubuntu isn't specifically designed for low spec computers, but sure, if the system uses less RAM, then your applications will have more in use08:49
gnumbknutsxubuntu396: Unfortunately LTspice only works in Linux  under WINE. Many years ago I used it exclusively, it worked almost as good as it did under MS-Windows. That was with a AMD-K7 CPU, around 2004 vintage.08:59
xubuntu667hello09:21
cfhowlettxubuntu667, ask your ubuntu questions09:22
xubuntu667im just installing xubuntu on my old pc, 2.4GHz, 1GB ram, will it run smoothly?09:22
xubuntu667i tried ubuntu before but it lagged really hard09:23
cfhowlettxubuntu667, yeah, xubuntu would have no problem with that.09:23
cfhowlettdownload the .iso and do a live boot test.09:23
xubuntu667ok thanks a lot09:23
giandic'è qualche italiano che mi può aiutare?10:38
giandiIo scrivo lo stesso il mio problema: Fino a due giorni fa riuscivo a collegare il mio iPad con il mio pc xubuntu,solo che ieri ho aggiornato l'iPad e stamattina ogni volta che attacco l'iPad al computer mi da errore dicendo che è impossibile montare l'iPad,dove sta il problema secondo voi?10:41
bekks!it | giandi10:42
ubottugiandi: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)10:42
giandiUntil two days ago I could connect my iPad with my pc xubuntu , just yesterday I updated the iPad this morning and whenever you attack the iPad to the computer gives me error saying that it is impossible to mount the iPad , where is the problem in your opinion?10:43
bekksSo it doesnt work after updating the ipad - so the ipad update is the problem.10:44
giandiso I have to wait for the next update of Ubuntu or downgrade iPad?10:46
Luyinor check whether you can enable some debugging option or so to connect to ubuntu agai10:47
Luyinn10:47
giandiHow can i check?10:49
Luyinyou'd have to google for that10:52
lzkill!patience11:14
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/11:14
htqpXubuntu 14.04. After a chromium update, after switching workspaces it fails to display the browser. it will reappear element by element by hovering with the mouse. The browser reappears if I minimize then maximize another window in the same target workspace.11:55
htqpany idea?11:55
htqpfor those interested, here's the bug report https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=293128&q=workspace&sort=-modified&colspec=ID%20Pri%20M%20Week%20ReleaseBlock%20Cr%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20OS%20Modified12:19
meultaineHello, I got some issues with my Lenovo x240 under Xubuntu 14.10. My touchpad sometimes detected (but stops working after using the physical clic) and most fo the time, it's not detected by xubuntu (not present in pointing devices). Is there any driver I can use to fix this problem ?12:24
cfhowlettmeultaine, ask #ubuntu12:24
cq-aux`heya12:49
cq-auxI'd like to remove tumbler [without] removing xubuntu-desktop, could you pls tell me how to?12:49
cfhowlettcq-aux, terminal: sudo apt-get purge tumbler && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop12:51
littlebithi people, I changed the skin of my midnight-commander and when i start mc I get the message that it cannot change to a 256 color skin on a non-256 colors terminal. How do I make the change to the xfce terminal systemwide permanent?12:53
cq-auxcfhowlett: ahh... tumbler is a dependency of xubuntu-desktop and will then be installed again12:53
cfhowlettcq-aux, correctomundo12:54
cq-auxok lol12:54
cq-auxthat really fuxed my problemundo12:55
cfhowlettcq-aux, why remove tumbler??12:55
cq-auxit's getting fatter and fatter12:55
cfhowlettcq-aux, thumbnails don't take THAT much space, do they??12:56
cq-auxand my computer is quite slow so I don't need thumbnails12:56
cq-auxit's actually a fat tumblerD12:56
cq-auxmy daemons won't quit hogging the limelight you see12:57
cq-auxhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/543494/can-i-safely-remove-tumbler-in-xubuntu-14-0413:13
cq-auxsolved13:14
cq-auxty13:14
cq-auxI love ubuntu!13:14
xubuntu90wI am trying to fit a linux distro to an old 486 box. There are many Live distros, but I need install. 20 Mb HDD, 512 Mb memory.13:55
cfhowlettxubuntu90w, lubuntu13:55
xubuntu90wShould I be using xubuntu or something else?13:55
xubuntu90wlubuntu is better for this?13:55
cfhowlett!lubuntu | xubuntu90w13:55
ubottuxubuntu90w: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.13:55
mrkrampsi do not think ubuntu kernel will work on 48613:57
cfhowlettlubuntu is optimized for low spec and legacy hardware.13:58
mrkrampsbut a 486 is antique13:58
Luyinxubuntu90w: I don't know enough about architectures, but you might want to try a really small distro, like DSL or puppy13:58
mrkrampsubuntu somewhen dropped support for i486 afaik14:00
mrkrampsdebian should still work14:00
mrkrampsmaybe also slitaz and tinycore14:00
mrkrampsdamn small linux (DSL) is not recommended anymore14:00
Luyinyou could also try gentoo, but I'm not sure if that's not too much computing for such old hardware14:01
xubuntu90wThe problem with DSL and puppy is that they seem hard to install. They run easily as live14:13
Luyinxubuntu90w: puppy is quite easy to install on hard drive14:15
Luyinbut yes, you can (and perhaps even should) run them live14:15
xubuntu90wI want to create a box for somebody who is non-technical.14:16
xubuntu90wThe idea of running a Live is scary for them14:16
cfhowlettxubuntu90w, virtualbox14:16
mrkramps486 is a bad choice then … the system should at least provide some basic performance to deal with everyday tasks like internet14:17
xubuntu90wWhat's wrong with DSL?14:18
mrkrampsDSL is outdated, last stable 2008 and last beta 201214:18
xubuntu90wSo is the hardware I'm using14:18
Luyinbut it's never good to use unsupported software, xubuntu90w14:19
Luyinyou could setup an XFCE in kiosk mode for these guests14:19
mrkrampsi admit, DSL should still be ok on a system not connected to the internet14:19
Luyinor simply use guest accounts14:19
xubuntu90wThere are a lot of old boxes out there. Many use things like XP. Surely Linux can improve on that?14:20
Luyinanything is better than using XP :)14:20
Luyinstill, I'd suggest Lubuntu14:20
xubuntu90wAgreed! So pls suggest some anythings!14:20
cfhowlettxubuntu90w, LOTS of us have already suggested lubuntu.14:21
xubuntu90wI can give it a try. Just hope I am not wasting a CD  :)14:21
mrkrampslubuntu will not work on a 48614:22
cfhowlettmrkramps, false.  I'm in China and I've booted many with lubuntu/485.14:22
cfhowlett*486*14:23
Luyincfhowlett: how does your being in China relate to that? :D14:23
cfhowlettLuyin, no shortage of legacy equipment to test things on ...14:24
Luyinah okay, didn't think of that14:24
xubuntu90wWhy not on a 486?  Shall I move to china for this attempt :-P14:24
xubuntu44wXubutnu can't see my wireless card.  ASUS laptop.  noob here what do I do?14:34
cfhowlettxubuntu44w, has it ever seen it?  new install?14:35
Luyinwhat do you mean, can't see? you can't connect to a wireless network?14:35
xubuntu44wyes it cant connect14:35
xubuntu44wi think i need a driver14:36
mrkrampschipset?14:38
xubuntu44wi'm new, what commands do i need to run14:40
mrkrampsxubuntu44w, pastebin the output of terminal command :$ lspci14:41
xubuntu90wbye-bye14:41
mrkrampsxubuntu90w, or just:$ lscpi | grep Network14:41
mrkrampsbargh14:41
xubuntu44whttp://pastebin.com/vcJ9D3PR14:46
mrkrampsxubuntu44w, there is a tool in the menu/settings called "additional drivers"14:48
mrkrampsyou'll most prolly need the madwifi drivers14:49
xubuntu44wno additional drivers available14:49
mrkrampsxubuntu44w, can you pastebin the following output as well:$ lsmod14:52
xubuntu44whttp://pastebin.com/usx49yMK14:54
mrkrampsxubuntu44w, and now please a:$ rfkill list14:57
xubuntu44whttp://pastebin.com/zZVhjU2D14:58
mrkrampsxubuntu44w, you wifi device is hard blocked … is there any hardware switch or Fn - combination on your laptop?15:00
stuart4558mrkramps i'm back.  I'm the guy wtith the asus wireless problem.15:04
stuart4558no physical switch15:04
stuart4558FN key doesnt do anyting when I press it15:04
mrkrampsstuart4558, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221294 linked with solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=218155815:06
mrkrampsyou'll need to check is option wapf=4 or wapf=1 works for you15:06
mrkramps*if15:06
stuart4558thanks so much for the help.  rebooting now to verify15:11
stuart4558thanks for the help.  asus wireless problem is fixed15:19
mrkrampsstuart4558, i guess Fn + F2 still not working?15:19
stuart4558mrkamps, thanks for all the help15:20
stuart4558no fn-f2 does nothing15:20
mrkrampsif you want to disable wifi you may still use the rfkill command15:20
stuart4558ok15:20
mrkrampsi guess you know what a manpage is ;)15:20
stuart4558???15:21
mrkrampsstuart4558, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/man15:21
mrkrampsin short terminal manuals for a specific command … just in case you want to know how rfkill works in detail15:22
stuart4558thanks15:22
mrkrampsyou're welcome15:22
stuart4558happy saturday everyone15:38
CizeliaHow do I install themes on xubuntu?16:09
shphi there... pls help if u can...my pc wakes up from suspend at 05:55am every morning ...what to do to stop it  happen again ? Thanks in advance18:45
shplast night I shut it down butagain this morning..18:46
shp14.04 here18:46
mrkrampswakeonlan?18:46
shpi use wifi18:46
mrkrampsand you tried with poweroff last night?18:47
shpyes18:47
shpand again 05:55am..fans dtarted18:47
shpthe wifi adapter was disconnected18:47
mrkrampsinteresting18:48
shpi use 3m usb cable with an wifi adapter on the end to get better reception outside my room18:48
shpbeffore i use an app to wake me up at 05:55 but its removed18:49
shpi removed it18:49
shpit doesnt starts i think...cuz it was with mp3 play to wake me up18:49
shpnow just my pc starts...18:49
shpat 05:5518:50
mrkrampswhich app?18:50
shpsome kinda alarm clock18:50
shp..with mp3 playin abil;ities18:50
shpabilities*18:50
mrkrampsmaybe still an entry in /etc/crontab?18:50
shpi dont know thats whu i am asking...i have terminal open what to do?18:51
mrkrampscat /etc/crontab18:51
shp..the aPP has been uninstaled from the soft center18:52
mrkrampsshp, removed or purged?18:52
shpremoved i guess...cuz now my pc starts...to login screen xfce...without playin the mp3 i have chosen for @alarm@18:54
shpwhat output i should have with cat18:54
shpcat /etc/crontab =?18:54
mrkrampsbut w/o purge there still may be some configuration files18:54
mrkrampsit would be really helpful if you remember the name of this application18:55
shpuhh18:55
shphow can i view the history of inst apps?18:55
shpubuntu soft centr?18:56
drcHistory Icon in top menu18:57
drcer...not menu :)18:57
drcwhatever the icon bar is called18:58
mrkrampstool bar, i guess18:58
shpwow theres plenty of stuff there18:58
drclook at removals18:58
shpalarm-clock applet18:59
shpthats it18:59
shp!!!18:59
shp->removals19:00
shpdrc thanks man for the help!19:00
drcnp19:00
shpwhat i should do19:00
shpi already googled My-pc-wakes up-by-itself-suspend19:01
drcmrkramps you're up I use synaptic :)19:01
drcAnd there's a config for complete removal vs leave the configs19:02
shpcan u guys give me a hand somehow?19:02
mrkrampsdoes not look as if the package has any files connected with cron19:03
shplast night i shut it down..and again today at 05:55am19:03
shp....i needed to be up at this time...but not by my pc19:03
mrkrampsshp, have you checked your bios settings?19:04
shpi havent touched my bios settings at all19:04
xubuntu21wis it possible to get a wireless adapter to work if you dont have access to the internet on that pc19:04
mrkrampsthat's weird … if you poweroff the system there should be no way then to physically start your machine19:05
shp....before installing THAT app all was perfect19:05
mrkrampsxubuntu21w, sure19:05
drcand have you checked crontab as mrk suggested (just in case) ?19:05
xubuntu21whow19:05
mrkrampsshp, try: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge alarm-clock*19:05
shpdrc what output should i have19:05
mrkrampsdrc, could be possible somewhere in /etc/crond.*/ as well … but the package content does not list anything suspicious19:06
mrkrampsxubuntu21w, depends on your wireless device19:06
shpThe following packages will be REMOVED19:06
shp  alarm-clock-applet* gstreamer0.10-gconf* libappindicator1* libindicator7*19:06
shp  linux-headers-3.13.0-24* linux-headers-3.13.0-24-generic*19:06
shp  linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic* linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic*19:06
shp0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 8 to remove and 7 not to upgrade.19:06
shpAfter this operation, 222 MB disk space will be freed.19:06
shpshould i YES?19:07
drcmrkramps:  I read that, but it's best to eliminate the easy stuff first. :)19:07
shp..this linux images ...?19:07
mrkrampsshp, old kernel-versions which should be save to remove19:07
xubuntu21w.19:08
mrkrampsxubuntu21w, one more and you're on my ignore list!19:08
mrkrampstold you so19:08
shpright19:09
shpthere is no error msgs19:09
shpt 05:55am19:09
shpi will find out19:09
shpmrkramps, what u think was the issue19:10
shpleftover app19:10
shpthings?19:10
mrkrampshonestly, i have no idea19:10
mrkrampsthe app was still installed19:10
mrkrampsbut this should not power on a machine19:11
shphow something can wake the whole system in xubuntu regime ( Ihave windows just in case..) from shutdown19:12
mrkrampsand in windows you did not use such an alarm?19:12
xubuntu21wwhat19:12
shpno19:12
shpi dont use windows19:12
shp just for emergency linux drv19:12
shpi have dual boot19:13
shp*choose ur destiny* type19:13
mrkrampsshp, you may still check the entries in /etc/crontab and the files in /etc/cron.daily/19:13
drcshp: did you check the BIOS as mrkramps  also suggested?19:13
shpdrc,  wakeuponlan is not ON in my exp19:14
shpmrkramps,  how to do it?19:14
mrkrampsshp, all text files19:14
shpshp@shp:~/Desktop$ /etc/crontab19:15
shpbash: /etc/crontab: Permission denied19:15
mrkrampsyou may use any file manager and text editor you like19:15
drcsudo19:15
mrkrampsand you do NOT need a terminal to do so!19:15
debbiecute.19:16
mrkrampsin terminal you can use cat or even better the pager less (close with q)19:16
debbiecutehello!! i need a command on terminal for close my session19:16
mrkrampsdrc, you're ok?19:17
shpthis is the file:19:18
shp# m h dom mon dow usercommand19:18
shp17 ** * *root    cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly19:18
shp25 6* * *roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )19:18
shp47 6* * 7roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly )19:18
shp52 61 * *roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly )19:18
shp#19:18
drcmrkramps:   yeah, just re-installed 15.04 and still config'ing :)  Thanks19:19
mrkrampsshp, for longer text output pls use http://paste.ubuntu.com/19:19
mrkrampsbut this file is fine …19:19
shpI guess you recommend will work properly19:20
shpyour*19:20
shpi think im safe for now..if something happens..ill be back...if not...Thanls for the help! really appreciated19:21
mrkrampsshp, you're welcome19:21
DReynoldsHi. hoping someone can help. trying to stick Xubuntu on an old Intel Macbook (make it usefull again :P) .. when I boot from the DVD im just getting "Select CD_ROM Boot Type" with options 1 and 2, both empty and no input being registered. .. tried making a bootable USB install using the iso and "Linux Live USB Creator" but that didn't even show up in the boot menu21:20
xanguaDReynolds: that's only for "pc's"21:21
DReynoldsxangua hmmm, are you able to poit towards something that'd work for a macbook?21:21
xanguahttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx21:22
mrkrampsDReynolds, what kind of macbook?21:23
DReynoldsokay, so thats formatting th usb from the mac, i see. Ive downloaded the ISO on a windows box so was trying to format it from that21:23
DReynoldsmrkramps cant remember exactly the model, a 2006 one i think. got an Intel Core 2 Duo 64-bit21:24
DReynoldsxangua: did all that. USB drive is still not showing up in the boot menu :(21:44
mrkrampsDReynolds, did you check if your iso downloads is not corrupted?21:46
DReynoldshow do i do that again? Xubuntu download page has nothing on it21:48
mrkrampsDReynolds, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes21:50
mrkrampsand https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM21:51
DReynoldsright. its late. im gonna have another shot tomorrow. thanks guys :)21:56
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