=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [09:17] Info: Isle of Man release party for Ubuntu 15.04 - http://iom.lug.org.uk [09:17] morning boys and girls. [12:00] Anyone know why I can't import python packages I've definitely just installed (via the package manager?) [12:01] a 2 vs 3 thing? [12:02] Hmm, maybe, tried both 2 and 3 though [12:06] Ok... i) the apt package isn't the package I was looking for so it's root namespace is different [12:06] ii) Once you find that out it works in 2 but not 3 [12:07] I do think the friction between the Python / Ruby and Debian package management is annoying [12:07] yeh it always happens when you have two different package management systems [12:12] It's Complicated [12:12] as is everything i seem to ever comment on [12:14] well you wouldn't want to comment on anything so simple that it was below you [12:24] true :p [12:25] but your summary was reasonable [16:47] yay [16:47] leaving now;D holiday time [20:14] anyone tried the fitness tracker bands? [20:14] to monitor sleep and walkies [20:14] chap i know got given a fitbit a bit ago [20:15] seems to use a web based stat tracker on the PC [20:15] so must run a local server [20:15] the xiaomi one is v cheap and you use an android/apple app [20:15] I've got an ms band (as of wednesday) [20:15] doubles as a watch [20:16] multiple sclerosis? [20:16] apparently my heart-rate goes down to about 55 when I'm asleep [20:16] err. no. microsoft [20:16] oh [20:16] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xiaomi-Lightweight-Smart-Bluetooth4-0-Bracelet-Black/dp/B00RMO0T5I [20:16] these are v cheap [20:16] i dont think it measures heart rate though [20:16] just sleep and walking [20:17] and notification vibrate [20:18] foobarry: i have a fitbit [20:20] blimety that xiaomi thing is cheap [20:20] only does 2 things [20:21] my bro in law has one [20:21] the fitbit only does two things [20:21] (the one I have) [20:21] but mine is an older version, the first band [20:22] popey: fitbit is a gimmick or useful? [20:22] maybe i just like the idea of collecting data [20:23] its good for setting targets [20:23] and can wake you gently [20:23] and monitor your sleep pattern [20:23] so has valid uses [20:23] i haz no targets [20:23] if any of those are important to you. [20:23] 10k steps a day is a good target [20:23] but is fun for comparing steps vs wife [20:23] a good starter anyway [20:23] yeah [20:25] do u stil use it? [20:31] no [20:31] not often [20:31] yet another thing to keep charged [20:32] i reckon that's their main issue, all this fitness lark [20:33] i did use a phone based one on the iphone a while back [20:33] "Moves" [20:33] which was really rather well done. [20:34] counted steps as you'd expect but also provided little maps of where you did the steps [20:34] so was dead handy for doing things like looking back over a week and seeing where you ate when you come to do your expenses [20:34] another average day on the main roads of Guernsey - https://www.dropbox.com/s/5y8ngn723zc8ba3/IMG_20150419_181747.jpg?dl=0 [20:36] the xiaomi one lasts 30 days or so allegedly [20:36] don't quote me on that tho === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away