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Kilosgood morning za peeps05:37
* Kilos waits to see if shedding will strike again05:58
Kilosek word sommer mal07:16
Kilosmorning pieter2627  07:56
pieter2627hi Kilos07:56
pieter2627How are things?07:57
Kilosquiet, we waiting for superfly  to get a break to check the site comment and tell us what next07:58
Kiloshis days are way to short to get everything done07:58
Kiloshow are you?07:59
pieter2627ah i see... good ty07:59
Kiloss/comment/content08:00
Kilosif you are bored you can help me though08:00
pieter2627with what do you need help?08:01
Kiloslol finding the missing locos or any ubuntu or linux users there08:01
Kilosonly if you are bored with nothing to do08:02
Kilosi found another group08:02
Kiloskenya08:02
Kilosthey are in the lug and the founder guy is back in switzerland08:03
pieter2627i'll be able to check some just before 12H. Where does one look for them?08:05
Kilosthis is what ive found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams08:06
Kiloswait ill give another link for where to find them08:06
Kiloshttp://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/08:07
Kilosi have just been contacting those i could via email but many have answered08:08
Kilosmaybe they dont like my face08:08
Kilosi use the slexy link in ubuntu-africa as a greeting message08:09
pieter2627ok08:10
Kilosbut Symmetria  said his servers are going mad with download and so on so there must be many buntu users out there08:11
Kilosfinding them is the thing08:11
pieter2627i might try google then... it normally likes me :P08:12
Kiloslol08:12
Kilosya google isnt my friend, it just gives me more work08:13
Kiloshmm...09:41
pieter2627Kilos: i see the africanTeam(s) wiki page list some as missing, does it mean that contact can be established or...?09:52
pieter2627s/can/can't/09:53
Kiloseverytime i find one i add them in there or get them to do it and mark them as not missing anymore09:53
Kilosthose that show as missing are those that have been inactive for a long time09:54
=== qwebirc87689 is now known as mopkop
=== mopkop is now known as mopkop42
mopkop42Hello...12:39
Kiloshi mopkop42  12:40
Kiloshoekom kom jy van die site aff12:41
Kilosaf12:41
mopkop42Hello oom Kilos! Hoe gaan dit?12:41
Kilosgoed dankie en self 12:41
mopkop42Ek is op die kerk se laptop...12:42
Kilosaha12:42
mopkop42Op win Vista.12:42
Kiloseish12:42
mopkop42Ek kom nou juis raad soek...12:42
Kiloslol12:42
Kiloswatse raad?12:43
mopkop42Ek wil graag ubuntu oplaai, maar dit is 'n ou laptop. Dit het net 1GB RAM. So ek wil weet, moet ek Ubuntu MATE of ElementaryOS oplaai?12:43
mopkop42Watter een sal die beste loop?12:43
Kilosek dink elementary maar dis net ek12:43
Kiloshier by my was dit lekker lig12:44
Kiloshet not nie ubuntu mate probeer nie12:44
Kilosnog12:44
Kiloselementary lyk baie soos mac12:45
Kilosas ek reg onthou12:45
Kilosafternoon superfly  12:45
mopkop42Lyk my MATE spesialiseer vir laptops, hoewel elementary mooier lyk...12:51
Kiloskyk na wat mate wil sien in hardeware12:54
Kilosek het mate op unity instaleer hier eens en dit was vinnig soo gnome 212:56
Kilossoos12:56
magespawngood afternoon12:58
magespawni am using xubuntu12:58
Kiloshi magespawn  13:01
Kilosya mopkop42  xubuntu is ook lig13:01
magespawnand i have found kali to be light too13:02
Kilosbut 1g ram is min13:02
Kiloshet die ding xp op mopkop42  ?13:04
mopkop42Nee Vista..13:05
Kiloso ja13:05
mopkop42lol13:05
Kilosek vergeet13:05
mopkop42Ja, ek het gekyk na  xubuntu. Mate lyk mooier :)13:05
Kilosmate is lekker13:05
Kilossoos gnome2 lekker was13:06
Kilosamper anyway13:06
mopkop42amper?13:07
Kilosja die drie goed wat bo was met gnome2 is net 2 , jy moet een van hulle oopmaak om die derde een se goed te sien13:09
Kilosapps en twee ander, ek vergeet wat13:09
Kilosdie derde een is nou in die eerste een13:09
mopkop42Darem het ek nooit gnome 2 gebruik nie, so ek hoef nie gewoond te raak aan die nuwe goed nie...13:10
Kiloslol13:10
Kilosgnome2 was baie lekker13:13
mopkop42Good day everyone, have some Church things to do...13:42
* nlsthzn sees mention that mate looks good... wait wut?13:53
* nlsthzn shudders13:53
Kiloslol13:53
Kiloscompared to untiy13:53
Kilosunity13:53
Kilosnlsthzn  what are you using now13:56
nlsthznunity13:56
Kilosoh my13:56
nlsthznbut I would like to be using gnome 313:56
Kilosstrange i never tried gnome 3 and now im so happy with kde i might never13:56
nlsthzndepending on the mix of apps you use there is so much inconsistancies with the way mate looks... issue of gtk2 and gtk3 and the fact that gnome is continiously changing the defaults of how applications should look etc... frustrating for me to use linux at the moment... 13:57
nlsthznboth gnome and kde is doing good stuff and then there is parts that just suck >.<13:58
Kilosno man kde rocks13:58
nlsthznit is ok13:58
Kilosa whole year crash free13:59
Kilosmore now even13:59
nlsthznI am sure that most distro's and interfaces can stay up depending on what you do with it...13:59
nlsthznI can crash anything :p13:59
Kiloslol13:59
Kiloswell you try fix what wasnt even broken13:59
nlsthznmessing with games native and via wine really shows some of the less than ideal systems on linux14:00
Kilosi dont even try wine anymore14:00
Kiloscrashed unity twice so thats it14:00
nlsthznsound and video subsystem is really patchy... perhaps wayland and or mir will help a bit on the video side14:00
nlsthznas for the sound... who knows14:00
nlsthznmust say ubuntu 14.04 is so far giving me no hassle...14:01
Kilos15.10 is mir hey?14:01
nlsthznnope14:01
nlsthznnot sure when mir will drop14:01
Kilos14.04 is super stable14:01
Kilosoh i thought it was out in 15.0414:02
nlsthznthe .2 update did break a few things which really p*ssed me off but there are always work arounds online :p[14:02
Kilosnot 15.1014:02
nlsthznoh perhaps 15.1014:02
Kilosbroke what14:02
nlsthznwas thinking of 15.0414:02
nlsthznthey haven't ported all of the latest packages to .2 so you can't install them...14:03
Kiloswhat broke with updates on 14.0414:03
nlsthznmakes some wine and steam things not work properly... there is a bug filed but no fix yet14:03
nlsthznsome mesa gl things14:03
Kilosoh not ubuntu stuff14:03
Kilosadd on stuff14:03
nlsthznyes core files14:03
nlsthznthat come with ubuntu normally14:04
Kilosya but your addons broke them14:04
nlsthznno14:04
Kilosmust be14:04
nlsthznanybody installing 14.04.2 will face this issue...14:04
Kilosim fully up to date and nothing broke14:04
nlsthznthat is why there is a bug report with many people commenting14:04
nlsthznit may be to do with our hardware and the applications we would like to run14:05
Kilosah14:05
nlsthznjust because it works for you doens't mean there is nothing broken ;)14:05
Kiloshaha14:05
nlsthznanyway there is a work around if you find the bug report and read the correct comment14:05
nlsthznwhich reminds me, I have some more Windows applications to install :p14:06
Kilosonly real hassles ive ever had have been nm14:06
Kiloseeek14:06
Kilossee14:06
Kilosyou break it14:06
Kilosyou like putting fiat uno parts in an audi14:07
nlsthznoh well... maybe the power of a thousand geeks not strong enough for my foo14:07
nlsthznfor all of the anti windows sentiment there is a lot of things that it does well... but biased will always make the world look different14:08
Kilosyou know what pro and his buddy did to me14:08
nlsthznnope14:08
Kilosya the 7 i run works14:08
Kilosi lent them my sjambok naow they wont give it back14:08
nlsthzn... baby bath time... sorry will be back later (perhaps)14:09
Kilosnow in gonna apply to be on the council and not lend the stronger sjambok to anyone14:09
Kilosenjoy14:09
nlsthzntell them to give it back :p14:09
Kilosthey say no more capitoal punishment14:10
Kilostwits14:10
Kiloscyber sjambokking hurt no one14:10
nlsthznKilos, not sure why you would have a sjambok... nobody here is a slave... all volenteers last time I checked :p14:31
Kiloswow now you starting too14:36
Kilosi give up14:37
Kilosand become a beggar again14:37
Kilosvolunteers14:37
inetprodankie nlsthzn15:33
inetproat least someone who agrees with me :-)15:33
inetprogood afternoon everyone 15:34
inetprooh and hi Kilos15:34
nlsthznI know it can be frustrating uncle Kilos ... best you can do is your best and those it inspires will add more value... most won't... this is the nature of the beast...15:34
nlsthzneveryone scratches his or her own itch15:35
nlsthznoh hai inetpro 15:35
nlsthzn:)15:35
Kilosits fine i will design cyber torture methods15:35
inetproai!15:35
Kilosohi inetpro  15:35
Kilosi have friends in hidden places15:36
Kilosand the mafia dont care about modern rules15:37
Kilosand of course there is always the pro. after much todo about nothing he still gets things done15:39
nlsthznjust be careful not to tare down all that you have built up ;)15:39
Kiloshaha you think i would break down all my tears and sweat15:39
Kilossjoe15:39
nlsthznnot on purpose15:40
nlsthznwe control our actions, not the consequences of those actions15:40
Kiloswell by accident i can be forgiven15:40
nlsthznand that would give you satisfaction?15:40
nlsthznoh well I MEANT no harm...15:41
nlsthznso alls well I guess15:41
nlsthzn:/15:41
Kiloslol15:41
Kilosno man15:41
Kiloshow often do i offend peeps15:41
nlsthznI doubt you do :)15:42
nlsthznand keep up the amazing work you are doing btw15:42
Kilosone doesnt hurt his family15:42
* nlsthzn can hear an unhappy baby again15:42
nlsthzn*sigh*15:42
Kilosshame15:42
Kiloshmm...16:25
inetprowb danfowler17:12
inetprooh and Neo3117:12
inetproheh Kilos, I see you got yourself into trouble this morning?17:22
Kiloswith who now?17:22
inetprothe news team17:23
Kilosoh he apologised once he rtfs17:23
Kiloshe misunderstood17:23
inetprohmm... ok17:24
Kilosi didnt ask for help as such, i said what we are doing and if anyone could help we would be thankfull i think17:25
Kilosone from the board has already come to me with links17:26
Kilosthey know Kilos is in town 17:26
Kilossoon they will hide like you17:26
* inetpro has never posted anything newsworthy before17:27
inetprois this the place they told you to post?17:27
inetproto post to*17:27
Kiloshere?17:27
inetprono man17:27
inetproubuntu-news-team17:27
Kilosyes thats what the lady told me to send to but she said send to the team because she could be away17:27
inetproah17:28
Kilosi try not to make mistakes but ya17:28
* inetpro only subscribed to it the other day17:28
Kilosim happy, because they add news about the new korea team and i  helped them17:29
Kiloslike you do17:29
Kiloslol17:29
Kilosgave them links17:29
inetprocool17:29
Kilosbut at leasat cantide has contacts there now too17:30
Kilosleast17:30
inetprowill be interesting to see the reaction once it hits the big news17:31
Kilospeeps will get to understand i make many mistakes but i try everything i can to help ubuntu not me17:31
Kilosbut im not going to become a FB fan17:33
inetprouh, seriously!?17:33
Kilosi dont like it man you know that17:33
inetprooh I read that wrong... missed the _not_17:34
Kiloshaha17:34
Kilosrtfs17:34
* inetpro almost fell off his chair17:34
Kiloshaha17:35
Kilosi dont think though at times17:35
Kilosi asked neo to translate the greeting to french for me17:35
Kilosbut i forgot i met a lady last night thats also an ubuntu fan and is in the south of france17:36
Kilosso ill ask her just now17:36
Kilosshe even has a ppa package17:36
inetproKilos: you forgot your other job17:37
Kilosuh oh17:37
Kilosi still greet everywhere17:37
Kilosand look at trello17:37
inetproyou let the klaus dude slip through your fingers in locoteams17:38
Kiloswhat did i miss17:38
Kiloshe spoke foreign17:38
inetprouse google translate17:38
inetprogoogle can help you to speak foreign17:38
Kilosafter he left i realised i helped him before i think and he does english17:38
Kilosim too slow man17:39
Kiloshe wanted a command to install stuff right?17:39
inetpro:-)17:39
Kilosi would have taught him aptitude17:39
Kilosoh but anyway thats not my job there17:40
Kilosi cant support the world17:40
Kilosthen i get told this isnt a support channel17:41
Kilosdo you even look at trello anymore inetpro  ?17:42
Kilosso much stuff there17:42
inetproI deleted it17:43
Kiloswow really?17:43
Kiloswhy?17:43
inetprouseless technology17:43
Kiloseish17:43
inetprohaha... I'm joking man17:43
Kilosyou lie man17:43
Kiloshaha17:44
Kilosoh i saw some other funny stuffs17:44
Kiloslemme see if i can find it17:44
Kilosbut i dont even know what reddit is17:45
Kiloshttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/l5b3x/members_and_canonical_employees_claim_your_flair/17:45
Kilosdont say rtfs17:47
Kilosnot even in caps17:47
inetproKilos: it's about http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/17:50
Kiloslol17:50
Kilosare there pictures17:50
Kilosno man whats that link doing17:51
Kiloslooks like unity installing17:52
Kiloskilled it now17:52
inetproah, I think I know what you want17:54
inetproyou want the flair thingy?17:54
Kilosim gonna hit you17:54
Kilosi was wondering what that was17:54
inetproKilos: first read about reddit17:55
inetpro'https://www.reddit.com/wiki/faq17:55
Kilosdo you use it?17:55
inetprono17:55
inetprowell, yes17:55
inetprosometimes17:55
inetprodepends17:56
Kilosmake up your mind17:56
Kiloswhat do you use it for17:56
inetprois a nice place to view popular opinions17:56
Kilosoh17:56
inetprolinks that receive community approval bubble up towards #117:57
Kilosi need to go there, maybe they can help me17:57
inetproit's like a commenting site17:57
Kilosso what is that flair thing17:57
inetpropeople post comments about anything and everything17:57
inetproif you post a comment you're just a number17:58
inetpropeople just end up ignoring you17:58
Kilosif i post everyone will have to read it twice to understand17:58
inetprobut with a flair you stand a better chance 17:59
Kilosis that all17:59
Kiloslike brownie points 17:59
inetproyep, it allows you to stand out in the crowds18:00
Kilosno i like being hidden18:01
Kilosbut you cant paint a roof from the bottom of the ladder18:02
inetprogood point18:04
inetprothat is why I don't use it18:04
Kiloslol18:04
Kilosnow 18:04
inetprowell then again, I said I do use it... hmm...18:04
inetprowell18:04
Kiloswhat are you doing about membership18:04
inetproI just read what others say, in other words, in that sense I actually do use it18:05
* Kilos waits!18:05
inetprohe's waiting for?18:05
Kilos what are you doing about membership18:06
inetproI don't use it18:06
* inetpro thought he said so18:06
* Kilos waits!18:06
* inetpro already mentioned that he is not using it18:07
Kiloswhat are you doing about your membership18:07
inetproit in this case is still referring to reddit membership18:07
Kiloswe are past that18:07
inetproand Kilos is referring to ubuntu membership?18:08
Kilosubuntu membership18:08
inetproyikes!18:08
Kilosif you like i will vote 018:09
Kilosthat means abstain i think18:09
inetproai!18:09
inetproloadshedding killed him again?18:10
Kilossjoe18:10
inetprowb Kilos18:11
Kilosty who killed me18:11
Kilosoh ami i have a home network18:11
* Kilos clever18:11
Kiloseth and wifi18:12
Kilosand no need for iptables thank heavens18:12
Kiloskde has really gone forward with nm18:12
Kiloswhy did you say yikes inetpro  ?18:13
inetproKilos: about the misunderstanding 18:14
Kiloslol18:14
inetprothe answer is, one day18:14
Kilossigh18:14
Kilossee things dont work without a sjambok18:14
inetprowhen I' ready18:14
Kilosyou are way past ready, shoulda been done years ago18:15
inetpromy evidence of real contribution is still low18:18
Kiloseish18:18
Kilossoon the site will launch then you have that to add as well18:21
* inetpro is not good at advertising his self18:21
Kilosalso add you helped under extreme conditions to make me18:21
Kilosyou can and i am goosie and what you do and when you started etc18:22
Kilosthen testimonials do the rest18:22
inetprojaja18:22
Kilosgrrrr18:23
inetprowhen is your next meeting?18:23
Kilosi dunno its too hard to find on the calender18:23
Kilosthat other link where you add yourself at a certain time is better for me18:24
Kilosbut the girls will remind me hopefully18:24
Kilosi must just smile nicely18:25
Kilosinetpro  where is that link where new members add them selves please18:30
inetproerm18:30
Kilosthat one with the 2 times18:31
inetprooh that18:31
Kilosya18:31
inetprofollow the trail https://ubuntu-za.org/18:32
Kiloslol18:32
inetprohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards18:33
Kilosty18:33
Kilosno man 18:33
inetproyes man18:33
Kilosfirst thusday and 3rd wednesday of the month18:36
Kilosthursday18:36
Kilostoo much rtfs to get there18:36
inetprohttps://ubuntu-za.org/ -> Getting Involved -> Join us! -> Become an official Ubuntu Member -> 12:00 UTC Board / 22:00 UTC Board18:37
Kilosya lotsa work18:37
Kilosive had a long day18:37
Kilosive bookmarked it 3 times now18:39
Kilossigh18:39
Kilosalready i mean18:39
inetprono need to bookmark18:40
inetprojust click our homepage above and follow the trail18:40
Kilosya ill remember how now18:40
Kiloshi pieter2627  18:42
pieter2627Hi Kilos18:43
inetprowb pieter262718:43
pieter2627oh hi inetpro18:43
inetproKilos: go look at your calendar and switch to the Calendar tab, at middle top you will see a dropdown with Events in the Next 7 Days being selected18:59
inetproclick the dropdown and select Events in the Next 31 Days18:59
inetprothen in the search box next to that type 'Ubuntu Membership' and see what happens18:59
Kilossjoe19:00
inetproyou will see that your next meeting is on Friday, 8 May at 00:0019:01
Kilossjoe19:02
Kilosi see that ty19:05
Kilos8 may and 20 may19:07
Kilosyou could make the 20 may one19:07
Kiloscomfortably19:07
Kilossuperfly  are you too busy sir?19:08
inetprobye neo{tab}19:22
Kiloslol19:22
pieter2627night all19:23
inetprogood night piet{tab}19:24
inetproai!19:24
inetproMaaz: is http://ubuntu-africa.snyman.info/ up?19:24
Maazinetpro: No, http://ubuntu-africa.snyman.info/ is down (Server is not responding)19:25
inetprohmm...19:25
Kilosisnt in ubuntu-africa.info19:27
inetproKilos: the new one yes19:28
inetprothat is for production19:28
Kilosoh19:28
smileHi guys :)20:00
Kiloswb smile  20:00
smileThanks :)20:00
superflyinetpro: my web server is having issues...20:10
inetproai!20:10
superflynot sure why, every day it gets to a point where it hangs. haven't had the time to look into why, just restart it20:11
inetprosuperfly: what's the problem?20:11
superfly*shrug*20:11
superflyMaaz: is ubuntu-africa.snyman.info up?20:12
Maazsuperfly: Yes, http://ubuntu-africa.snyman.info/ is up20:12
inetprosuperfly: I know the feeling :-)20:12
Kilosai!20:13
inetprofortunately it's only our testing site20:14
Kilosinetpro   do you know when the newsletter comes out?20:14
inetproKilos: not yet20:15
Kilosim too busy to try find that too20:15
inetproKilos: either Monday or Tuesday20:16
Kilosaw my post will be late for this week then20:17
inetprowhy?20:17
Kilosthey must still edit it and get it past pleia2 and i think she is away tomorrow and tuesday20:18
Kilosanyway well see hey20:22
Kilosmaybe they dont even post it20:22
inetproanother opportunity to learn to be patient20:23
Kiloslol20:23
Kilosinetpro  what is obsfucation on an email address please20:46
inetproKilos: address at gmail.com20:46
Kilosoh that20:46
Kilosty20:47
inetproor even address at gmail dot com20:47
inetproor some clever javascript to make it look normal but the moment you copy and paste it's scrambled20:47
Kilosno thats too much20:48
inetprouh20:48
Kilosi like things easy and simple20:49
Kilosotherwise i get lost even more20:50
inetproKilos: the bots also like it easy and simple20:50
inetprootherwise they also get lost 20:51
Kiloslol20:51
inetproKilos: http://ubuntu-africa.info/20:59
Kilosw000000t21:00
Kilosty so much superfly  21:00
Kiloswere the content stuffs good?21:00
Kilosi mean are you satisfied21:01
Kilosor do they meet your approval21:01
inetprosshhh!21:01
superflyi think it'll be easier to get people to fix stuff now that it's up there21:01
inetpro:-)21:02
Kilosdid you see anything needs fixing superfly  ?21:02
inetproKilos: we need to think about a different catch phrase 21:02
Kilosfor what?21:03
inetprosomething other than "Welcome to Africa!"21:03
superflynot just a catch phrase, we need a proper intro block21:03
Kilosoh21:03
inetprodoes the paragraph unde "Give meaning to your life" sound right at http://ubuntu-africa.info/join-us.html ?21:06
Kilosok so do i wait before i go to canonical and ask them to approve what they can find needs approval21:06
Kiloshehe21:06
inetproKilos: wait man21:06
Kilosok21:06
inetprowhy always such a rush?21:06
Kiloshmm...21:07
Kilosanyway the welcome to africa should have been welcome africa21:07
Kilosbut whatever you guys think is best21:07
inetprothink about it, talk about it and improve it21:08
inetproit's not done until it is done21:08
Kilosis the jumbotron thing supposed to run sequentially or just random21:08
Kilosi see it often repeats a page21:09
inetproyou mean an image?21:09
Kilosyes when you refresh the view21:10
Kilosmaybe its me21:10
Kiloshit refresh a few times and see21:10
inetpronothing wrong with that21:14
Kilosnope21:14
inetproeven the irc chat works21:15
Kilosthat is a wonderful thing, it brings peeps direct to irc21:15
smileSlaapwel :)21:15
Kilosnot fb or tweet place21:15
Kilossleep tight smile21:15
smileThanks21:16
Kilosla Ubuntu LoCo (Communauté Locale) d'Afrique du Sud a formé le projet de mettre21:17
Kiloshehe21:17
Kilosi even have a traslation team21:17
Kilostranslation21:17
* inetpro going to hit the sack21:33
inetprogood night21:33
inetprooh and before I go21:33
inetprothanks superfly!21:33
Kilosnight inetpro  ty21:35
Kilosand ty very much superfly  21:35
Kilosnight all. sleep tight22:11

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