| desrt | HELLO DESKTOP | 08:12 |
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| larsu | desrt: stop screaming, please | 08:14 |
| * ogra_ rasies his ear trumpet | 08:15 | |
| ogra_ | what did he say ? | 08:15 |
| * davmor2 shakes walking stick and shout "Get Off My LAWN!" | 08:18 | |
| * ogra_ rasies his ear trumpet again | 08:18 | |
| ogra_ | what did he say ? | 08:18 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: peskie kids muttering to themselves all the time | 08:20 |
| willcooke | http://pad.ubuntu.com/N4aJtsz2V7 | 08:24 |
| pitti | Good morning | 08:26 |
| pitti | yay, back to a mostly sane TZ :) | 08:26 |
| larsu | pitti: hi! How's London? | 08:26 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, had a good trip back to Europe? | 08:28 |
| willcooke | https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheets/d/18-enLvvZScjIlkO0VhHG-CuTdK1TUzlNMkdevDqjMB0/edit#gid=0 | 08:28 |
| willcooke | http://pad.ubuntu.com/N4aJtsz2V7 | 08:28 |
| pitti | seb128: yeah, I did; all went well | 08:29 |
| pitti | seb128: how was your's? you took the Eurostar, I figurE? | 08:29 |
| pitti | larsu: you aren't here? for the desktop sprint? | 08:29 |
| larsu | pitti: trolling isn't what it used to be in here ;) | 08:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, mine was fine, yeah, eurostar, easy and uneventful ;-) | 08:29 |
| larsu | pitti: I am. It's nice and sunny! | 08:29 |
| pitti | larsu: sorry, too distracted/jetlagged for subtle jokes still | 08:30 |
| larsu | pitti: no worries. Enjoy your day! Hope to see you some time this week | 08:31 |
| pitti | larsu: yeah, I was too tired last night for getting to your hotel again, sorry | 08:31 |
| pitti | but definitively let's meet for some dinner/beer this week! | 08:31 |
| larsu | :) | 08:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, we are going to be in the office on thursday | 08:36 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, nice! for the release party? | 08:36 |
| seb128 | + beer event in the evening for vivid | 08:36 |
| seb128 | yeah | 08:36 |
| pitti | rockin' | 08:36 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:37 |
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| willcooke | http://www.whizzy.org/2015/02/snapping-mosquitto-mqtt-broker/ | 10:36 |
| willcooke | robert_ancell, ^^ | 10:36 |
| MacSlow | for more than an hour I'm watching systemd hanging at "A start job is running for Enable s...y formats" during boot... anyone with an idea how to fix/workaround that... or what's causing this? | 10:44 |
| MacSlow | oh... and "Login Service" and "Network Manager" failed to start too | 10:44 |
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| seb128 | willcooke, inspiron 11 3000 series 3138 | 11:55 |
| seb128 | reg model P19T | 11:55 |
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| rbasak | Does someone in the desktop team want to take bug 1445358? Looks like it should be considered release critical to me. | 13:15 |
| ubot5 | bug 1445358 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Pulseaudio fails to run when system's language is in certain non-English locales" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445358 | 13:15 |
| ogra_ | heh, so shiny | 13:15 |
| seb128 | rbasak, can you mention it to diwic on #ubuntu-devel? | 13:21 |
| seb128 | rbasak, TheMuso is off this week and we don't have anybody else in desktop working on pulseaudio | 13:21 |
| didrocks | mterry: hey, we are on a sprint, and we were wondering if you got Unity8 running with a snappy image. In that case, what device and procedure have we used? We tried an usb stick, but of course, most of the time, no wifi drivers on the image… | 13:26 |
| mterry | didrocks, no, I didn't get as far as the entirety of unity8 | 13:27 |
| didrocks | mterry: did you get at least a working machine, which isn't a qemu device? | 13:27 |
| didrocks | like a laptop, with ssh, and such… | 13:28 |
| mterry | didrocks, yeah, I had a snappy laptop that I ssh'd into | 13:28 |
| mterry | didrocks, did you see my email about deb2snap? I got mir and xmir clients working | 13:28 |
| mterry | didrocks, but didn't try something as complicated as unity8 | 13:28 |
| mterry | I bet there are some gaps (dbus? gsettings caches?) | 13:28 |
| didrocks | mterry: that's exactly why I'm pinging you :) But to get mir, we need to use some intel based laptop | 13:28 |
| didrocks | and we still have to find one with a running ubuntu core image :p | 13:29 |
| didrocks | (where we have network) | 13:29 |
| mterry | didrocks, I had an nvidia laptop | 13:29 |
| didrocks | oh, mir supports it? | 13:29 |
| mterry | didrocks, it seems to... using nouveau | 13:29 |
| didrocks | interesting | 13:29 |
| didrocks | do you know about qemu? Maybe that can help iterating | 13:29 |
| didrocks | (well kvm) | 13:29 |
| mterry | didrocks, yeah well I tried kvm | 13:31 |
| mterry | didrocks, but mir needs real hardware (/dev/dri/card0 access) | 13:31 |
| didrocks | mterry: ok, thanks for confirming. We'll try harder to find a way to at least have ubuntu core running on real hardware first :) | 13:31 |
| ogra_ | mterry, doesnt the new HW access framework now make that available ? | 13:31 |
| mterry | ogra_, I don't know... It didn't last time I tested on vivid | 13:32 |
| ogra_ | yeah, that was still in development back then ... i think it is there now | 13:32 |
| * didrocks tries in a vm | 13:35 | |
| didrocks | mterry: ogra_: doesn't work FYI | 13:48 |
| didrocks | (with kvm) | 13:48 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey, are you going somewhere with those flacky tests? I see you had a bunch of (re)tries, do you understand what's going on? | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | yes | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | i'm trying to beat on it :) | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | ignore the noise for now | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | i have it reliably passing the specific tests we had failing before | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | but i introduced another problem... | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | fixing | 15:36 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, what was the issue? | 15:39 |
| seb128 | I'm curious, your mp doesn't explain much | 15:40 |
| * larsu waves to seb128 | 15:40 | |
| * seb128 waves back | 15:40 | |
| kenvandine | seb128, we think it was because we had a test calling another test | 15:42 |
| kenvandine | so i refactored it to not need to call that test to setup | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | but i also added more wait_selects, etc | 15:43 |
| kenvandine | but that wasn't the real issue | 15:43 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, it doesn't make sense, for me the failing test was clearly a tap from autopilot not resulting as a tap/generated as an onClicked | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | seb128, elopio says that's because it wasn't ready when the click was sent | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | so it didn't get it | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | the qml side wasn't ready | 15:49 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, what does that mean? | 15:50 |
| seb128 | the UI is on screen | 15:50 |
| seb128 | and built | 15:50 |
| seb128 | and the listitem is stable/displayed and get something happening to it | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | that's what he said :) | 15:50 |
| seb128 | e.g you get the selected bg color changed | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | but was it ready before autopilot called the click | 15:50 |
| seb128 | like if it was dnd-ed rather than clicked | 15:50 |
| seb128 | define ready | 15:51 |
| seb128 | it was on screen stable displayed without changing for some seconds | 15:51 |
| seb128 | and the click made the line bg change | 15:51 |
| seb128 | the text just doesn't turn red and the onClicked handler doesn't trigger | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 15:51 |
| seb128 | to me it looks like the tap is doing a dnd | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | hmm | 15:51 |
| seb128 | or something which is not seen as a proper click | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | so removing the call to the other test, did seem to fix that | 15:52 |
| kenvandine | i got a couple passes in a row in CI | 15:52 |
| seb128 | doesn't make sense to me | 15:52 |
| kenvandine | not sure how that caused it though | 15:52 |
| kenvandine | but he said we should never call a test from a test | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | but | 15:53 |
| seb128 | why not? | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | that code as been there for 15 months | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | and it wasn't a problem before | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | but it is the only place we do that | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | he didn't really say why | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | he also said we shouldn't have more than one assertion | 15:53 |
| kenvandine | which i don't really agree with | 15:54 |
| kenvandine | he said each test should only have one assert | 15:54 |
| seb128 | k, weird | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | but for a UI test, i think it makes sense to assert on multiple things | 15:55 |
| seb128 | I think people just suggest workarounds there | 15:55 |
| kenvandine | what i'm still puzzled by is why this just started happening | 15:55 |
| seb128 | but let's see if that's enough to make things stable, I somewhat doubt it | 15:55 |
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