=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [02:55] my document viewer has no icon. is it known bug or this is only my phone? === zhxt_afk is now known as zhxt [04:44] mariogrip: http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/OnePlus-One-Ubuntu-Touch-to-Get-MultiROM-Manager-Support-478772.shtml [06:55] good morning [07:10] good morning ! [07:58] Hi [08:21] o/ hi all. anyone about? quick question about Dekko - my Imap setup won't 'take' for one account, but will for the other on the same host. suspect it's the folder structure. [08:23] hi luxpir, what do you mean by won't 'take'? [08:36] morning ppl [08:48] http://news.softpedia.com/news/Latest-Ubuntu-Touch-Update-Improves-Battery-Life-Up-to-50-Users-Report-478812.shtml [09:03] guys I use a BQ E4.5 Ubuntu phone, and I want to upgrade my system, I am scared to do it though. Did anyone perform a succesful update? [09:05] cylonmath: how do you plan to upgrade? [09:06] cylonmath, I have the r21 that went out few days ago and it works like a charme! :) [09:06] +1 [09:08] Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Chinese Language Day! :-D [09:08] che che [09:15] popey, update manager? [09:16] cylonmath: in system settings -> updates, right? [09:29] popey, yes! [09:30] why woudl you be scared using that ? [09:31] did you tinker with the rootfs on the device ? [09:31] if you didnt make it writable or alter the readonly part it will all be fine [09:33] im scared coz 2 days ago i tried updating and my system gone into a contuinious loop of reboot, i used factory settings to recover. [09:34] yes, that shouldnt happen (we are still trying to find what causes it, no developer could reproduce it yet) [09:42] is working support for WPA Enterprise WiFi authentication? [09:43] well, i cant use eduroam yet... [09:43] and where can I find OTA updates URL? [09:44] Sleep_Walker: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Latest-Ubuntu-Touch-Update-Improves-Battery-Life-Up-to-50-Users-Report-478812.shtml [09:46] lotuspsychje: thank you for your try but I mean the file Ubuntu phone is downloading [09:46] Sleep_Walker: wich channel are you on? [09:47] Sleep_Walker, the files come from http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ [09:48] lotuspsychje: I'm afraid that I don't know what you mean [09:48] ogra_: thanks! [09:50] Sleep_Walker: i mean wich device are you using and wich ubuntu touch channel running on it [09:51] Sleep_Walker, Enterprise wifi isnt there yet ... [09:51] aquaris e4.5, I haven't modified default configuration [09:51] ogra_: do you plan connman integration? [09:51] no [09:54] Guys, you know its really nice to have a such ubuntu-touch channel, the community yo! [09:54] :) [09:54] yeah! [09:58] what could be causes that Developer Mode setting is greyed out? [09:58] Mirv, no password/PIN [09:58] delete that [09:58] yes, me stupid [09:58] it even reads there :) [09:59] i'll make it red and let it blink in the next iteration ;) [09:59] * ogra_ is sure the design team would love such subtile hints in the UI :) [09:59] +1 :) [10:01] ogra_: needs cats running across the screen [10:03] use blue instead of red - red is everywhere, blue is alien color there ;b [10:16] hm, I tried to run wpa_supplicant manually but it's interfering with the other control :( [10:18] i guess just a network manager config would help ... you surely dont want to touch wpa_supplicant, let NM do that ;) [10:20] oh, it's just another client to NM? [10:20] cool [10:21] Sleep_Walker, somenthing like that might work (not sure) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=155893 [10:50] DanChapman: Hi Dan, thanks for your answer. I filed a bug report earlier, better explained there. [10:50] DanChapman: https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1446129 [10:50] Ubuntu bug 1446129 in Dekko "Failed to login in to the IMAP server - Dovecot error/panic" [Undecided,New] [10:52] luxpir: excellent thanks for filing it. I'll take a look at now [10:52] DanChapman: (hope it's relevant and not my config - could quite easily be) [10:53] Anyone else aware of how best to install non-Touch software such as Syncthing, Mosh, Newsbeuter, Mutt etc.? === kickinz1|afk is now known as kickinz1 === aaron is now known as ahoneybun [10:54] (Do I just grab the .deb of whatever I'm after?) === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [11:25] hi [11:28] will the bq e.4.5 become the new kernel 3.10.54 on ut 15.04? [11:28] no [11:29] no port for it? [11:30] i have seen they use that kernel for lollipop on the e4.5 [11:30] the ubuntu device tree is based on 4.4 [11:31] ? [11:31] 4.0 is brand new, isn't it? [11:31] android 4.4 [11:31] ah [11:32] we will surely have to move to 5.0 at some point ... but thats far in the future i guess [11:35] ogra_, yesterday i tried "again" to update from 14.10 r22 to vivid-proposed, same boot loop. i found your how to with the fastboot and recovery.img. but still no luck with that. i had to use again the mtk-tools. [11:37] well, there are a few people that see this issue ... but inside canonical we only have one person who could reproduce it yet ... we have a sprint next week and will have that device there to research it [11:39] usually a factory reset from the recovery menu should help though ... you shouldnt need to use any mtk tools [11:39] has it maybe something to to with the missing icons after and update on 14.10 and then going direct to vivid-proposed? [11:39] icons ? [11:39] missing icons on the scope [11:39] no [11:40] thats a network problem with the scopes === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:41] no, two times amazon links, one with and one without icon, is not a networkproblem [11:42] two times amazon on one scope is also not normal i think [11:42] no, thats something different, but also unrekated [11:47] as a first thing on my brand new Bq, I get to test all the PIN + PUK support :D [11:48] I'm unaware thouh why it was asking for "old PIN code" for a SIM that had PIN code asking disabled. other phones AFAIK don't need to ask for any old PIN code, just ask the new one with which it will be locked. [11:48] Mirv, uuh [11:48] i have seen that [11:48] i think it's because of the webapps names changing [11:48] studio_: do you still have the system setup with broken icons? [11:48] popey, i think it is because of two different custom tarballs when you jump channels back and forth [11:49] ah [11:49] yes, that would make sense [11:49] two desktop files with differently named apps [11:49] you end up keeping both .desktop files [11:49] giving you one working, one not [11:49] yeah, and the old custom thingie not wiped when switching [11:49] ok, good, glad we agree :) [11:49] i'll talk with cwayne at the sprint about this [11:50] well, that PUK experience was weird, but in the end I have the new PIN set and SIM locked [11:50] phoedations has its sprint next week [11:50] ok [11:51] ogra_, i think it's more of a system-image issue to be honest, we don't really handle any of the removal of old customs [11:51] cwayne, we should :) [11:51] but i agree that parts of that need to come from system-image [11:51] ogra_, right, we absolutely should :) [11:52] i thought custom was wiped on upgrades [11:52] maybe it's just not when switching [11:52] probably switching channels should just imply --wipe [11:52] it isnt a typical user feature anyway [11:55] popey, no, but is looking nearly same as the screen shot a guy here posted [11:55] was looking [11:55] ok [11:57] i have seen it too, i cleared it up by removing the incorrect .desktop files in ~/local/share/applications [11:57] i think [11:58] yeah [11:58] what i said, we should simply wipe all userdata if someone switches channels [11:59] zoiks [11:59] no wai [11:59] thats really an advanced task no enduser will do [11:59] it should really be the click hooks doing that, shouldn't it? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:59] cwayne, how ? the package is never removed [12:00] they would only kick in if you removed the click [12:00] ogra_, is it really the package never being removed, or i thought it was just that symlink not being removed [12:00] i'll have to take a look, but anyway, something's obviously going wrong somewhere :) [12:01] we already have a bug for click where it doesn't clean up [12:01] right, but we dont remove clicks in this case [12:01] (which might be the actual bug indeed) [12:02] \o/ lunch [12:02] if you switch channels that like a fresh flash over an old image ... just without having the existing bits removed [12:02] (of the custom tarball) [12:04] * ogra_ wishes we could somehow tell the system to not mute on incoming notifications ... dpm talking on telegram makes it hard to listen to my streamed music :P [12:04] * dpm starts spamming on Telegram [12:04] you already do ! [12:04] :) [12:04] hmm, keyboard got stuck on my Bq, is there a bug about such thing? [12:04] * dpm hugs ogra_ :) [12:04] * ogra_ hugs dpm [12:04] Mirv, stuck in what way ? ... must be a Qt bug :P [12:05] ogra_: it didn't work anymore, elsewhere on the touch screen it was possible to browse. I was trying to enter instagram details. now the keyboard disappeared and doesn't re-appear. [12:05] wow [12:05] havent heard of that one in about a year ... we used to have such a bug [12:06] Mirv: were you entering a password? [12:06] now it reappeared and works, although I needed to switch apps and restart the instagram [12:06] Elleo: yes, exactly [12:07] Mirv: yeah, there's a bug in the new oxide that triggers a crash in the keyboard; we've got a branch that fixes the keyboard crash, I'm trying to track down the oxide problems now [12:07] Elleo: thanks, just checking since this is my actual first out-of-the-box experience here [12:08] good that it's being tracked, and now I also remembed the oxide woes were there also on rtm [12:08] we should just switch to geck ... that oxide stuff has bugs all over :P [12:08] *gecko [12:08] khtml \o/ [12:08] lol [12:08] lynx [12:08] is that still alive ? [12:09] just embed a terminal widget running lynx in the browser and all our problems would be solved [12:09] well, rather w3m then, it can do frames :) [12:09] pah, you and your fancy web 1.1 [12:10] wget -O- -q $url | html2text -> pipe into QML textview [12:10] ;) [12:10] heh [12:11] that "pictures on the internet" thing will never gain acceptance anyway [12:11] finds bug #1252899 the most glaring problem so far [12:11] bug 1252899 in Ubuntu Start Page "Ubuntu Start Page is not mobile friendly" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1252899 [12:12] yeah, thats actually very ebarassing [12:12] jgdx: what needs doing / who needs pinging to get https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-start-page/1252899-mobile-friendly/+merge/197038 merged regarding that bug ^ ? [12:15] beuno: same to you ^ what needs to be done to get that branch tested and into production? [12:19] I'd like the possibility to lock screen without locking device with the code until some time has elapsed [12:20] Mirv, we all would like that :P [12:20] and another thing from Jolla I'd like double power press to skip home screen ie directly go to scopes or ask the security code. double power press to skip any possible time elapse option to immediately lock the phone. [12:20] ogra_: :) is there a design bug about that? [12:20] * ogra_ remembers jdstrand asking for it over a year ago [12:20] not sure if he filed one [12:21] let's hear from jdstrand, I believe there should be a bug. about that first, then the extra convenience features once that's possible first. [12:22] iirc that came up when we were still experimenting with the split greeter idea ... [12:22] which made it likely fall off the table sicne we couldnt implement what we initially planned [12:23] (lock delay is a greeter thing) [12:24] Mirv, not sure. When I talked to beuno about it last time, it seemed like it was ready to go [12:24] last time was couple of weeks ago [12:25] wow, thats quite a change for such a small feature [12:27] Since cryptsetup is apt-get installable from the touch repository, did somebody have success in setting up an encrypted partition? [12:27] i think someone talked about setting up an encrypted directory ... on the mailing list [12:27] partition wont work [12:28] (well, it will, but you need massive modifications first) [12:29] ogra_, why is that? When trying luks format, I got error messages about some missing key store. [12:29] what did you try to format exactly ? [12:30] encrypting the readonly rootfs is pointless ... encrypting the rw partition wont work due to the bind-mount-farm we use for the writable bits [12:31] ogra_: sudo cryptsetup -c aes-xts-plain -s 512 luksFormat /dev/mmcblk1p1 /dev/shm/luks-key.txt [12:31] the latter will get implemented at some point though ... but doing it today without doing a lost of changes to the system core wont work [12:31] oh, external card... [12:31] s/lost/lot/ [12:31] ah, Sd card should indeed work [12:32] (you need to mount it manually etc indeed, udisks wont automount it) [12:32] yes, I figured that out. It's also strange that ext partitions are not auto mounted... [12:33] on purpose [12:33] we have no way to deal with file permissions [12:33] (yet) [12:33] maybe related: during apt-get install cryptsetup I got a load of warnings. [12:33] and the typical enduser wont use ext4 to store their music/photos [12:34] yeah, its not designed for a system where it cant regenerate the initrd [12:34] iirc the package tries that during install [12:40] The above command gives me the following errors : [12:40] device-mapper: reload ioctl on failed: No such file or directory [12:40] Failed to open temporary keystore device. [12:40] device-mapper: remove ioctl on temporary-cryptsetup-31532 failed: No such device or address [12:41] ah, yeah, likely also no devicemapper support in the kernel === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:42] Too bad. Ok, I'll loo into directories then... [12:43] john-mcaleely, whats the bug location for users to request kernel config changes ... studio_ also wants cifs and nfs support (and i think we could at least enable cifs as a module since the filemanager will want to use it alter too) [12:43] *later [12:45] ogra_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image [12:45] it can migrated as needed from there [12:45] ah, just generic then ... k [12:45] Hi, silly question but how do I paste text into an HTML textbox control. For example in the Twitter app, when composing a new tweet. Long pressing just seems to select the input object itself, rather than the text within it? Thx [12:57] aSheepie, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1264493 [12:57] Ubuntu bug 1264493 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "No Paste option in web page entries" [High,Triaged] [13:05] jgdx, ah, cheers, glad it wasn't me being stupid - I'll add that it affects me and details to that log, then. [13:06] aSheepie, thank you. It affects me as well, with my long, stupid passwords === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:07] * ogra_ just uses "password" everwhere... so much easier to remember :) [13:08] (and i heard many other people do that too ... the masses cant be wrong !) [13:09] not hunter2? [13:09] nah, i'm an advanced user ... i use hunter3 if i use it [13:10] speaking of passwords are there plans to support U2FA? [13:10] thats a question for dobey i guess :) === plars is now known as plars- [13:13] jdstrand, do yu remember if you filed a bug for "i dont want my screen to immediately lock when i turn off the screen" ? i know we talked about ages ago [13:21] ogra_: what is? === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:23] dobey, richi_'s question about auth providers [13:23] 2fa is supported for the u1 account plug-in on the phone [13:24] and by pay-ui as well for when the password must be entered there [13:24] dednick, did you see that QA found a regression in your settings branch for bug 1390136 [13:24] bug 1390136 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu Vivid) "need a transition state for indicators reflecting laggy backends" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1390136 [13:26] dobey: I mean Fido U2FA. Something like YubiKey or http://buysecuritykey.com/ [13:26] Mirv, jgdx, I'll take care of that this week [13:27] kenvandine: no, i havent [13:27] richi_, there is the authenticaor app in the store for 2FA token generation ... [13:27] i assume you dont expect to be able to plug a yubikey into your phone [13:27] (with OTA cable or some such) [13:27] ogra_: I generally avoid software solutions for 2FA. [13:28] ogra_ : I already use my YubiKEy for ssh auth with my phone. [13:28] you meanyou have the yubikey attached to the phone for ssh client stuff ? [13:28] well, if the device where you enter your password, and generate the 2fa key, are the same, then it's not really 2fa [13:30] ogra_: yes The neo has an OpenGPG applet that gpg-agent speaks to for ssh auth. [13:30] yeah, i was more wondering about the Hw setup [13:30] kenvandine: thanks, i'll take a look into it [13:31] beuno: jgdx thanks! [13:31] are there microUSB yubikeys ? [13:31] dobey: U2FA seems to be a really good compromise : https://fidoalliance.org/ [13:31] argh [13:31] dednick, thx [13:31] so my Bq is stuck in non-spinning Ubuntu logo after spontaniously rebooting while writing Telegram message [13:31] ogra_ : yes with a smapp OTG adaptor. [13:31] I guess I'll try forcefully powering off [13:31] richi_, ah, right, so not actual microUSB keys then [13:32] ogra_ : We might suggest that to Yubico ... [13:32] richi_: i don't have a yubikey or a fido thing. or an otg adapter. [13:33] ogra_: i guess they could make one that was an SD card too [13:33] yeah, i wouldnt want to lose my SD slot to it [13:34] i just wonder in general why so few HW manufacturers build actual microUSB HW [13:34] dobey: I was just asking if there are plans to support FIDO U2FA in the ubuntu touch browser. ATM it's only supported by Chrome/Chromium, with Firefox support planned. [13:34] ogra_: probably because they build things for computers, and building a thing that plugs into the microusb on a phone is ass backward :) [13:35] richi_, you didnt say browser anywhere above (or i missed it) :) [13:35] richi_: oh, well i don't work on the browser, but it's based on the blink engine, so it might have some support already [13:36] ogra_: I don't think I ever did because I was told that the feature was coming where we could adjust the timeout (and that did land) [13:36] dobey, well, i guess they would fine one or the other customer that would be happy to not have 15cm OTG cable dangling off the device [13:36] *find [13:36] Oh I will try then... [13:37] jdstrand, right, i'll file one then ... since even with the timeout i'd like to be able to quickly switc on the device again without having to unlock [13:38] ogra_: probably no profit in it though. iphones don't have micro-usb. and apparently the android phone market can't get the orientation of the socket on the phone correct === dandrader_ is now known as dandrader === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [14:34] jhodapp: is it a known bug that video doesn't seem to work when streamed over http via MediaPlayer and VideoOutput elements? (audio from the video still plays though) I couldn't see anything obvious logged against media-hub, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong place? [14:35] Elleo, no it should work although it's been a while since I've tried it...there may be specific issues with the codec that you're trying to use or something else [14:35] Elleo, have you verified that the video plays locally if you download it to the phone? [14:36] jhodapp: yeah, it plays locally in the same test app; it's only when streamed over http that it fails to show the video [14:36] Elleo, got a link to it? I can try playing it [14:37] jhodapp: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10856399/ <-- here's the test app with the video stream in [14:37] wget'ing the file and switching to the local source works fine [14:37] Elleo, I'm going to try it from mediaplayer-app first [14:38] okay [14:39] jhodapp: doesn't work in mediaplayer-app here (except for the sound) [14:39] Elleo, yeah same here [14:39] Elleo, can you file a bug, it's a valid bug [14:39] sure thing [14:39] Elleo, against media-hub [14:39] okay [14:39] Elleo, thanks! [14:42] jhodapp: filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/media-hub/+bug/1446260 :) [14:42] Ubuntu bug 1446260 in Media Hub "Video blank when streamed over HTTP" [Undecided,New] [14:43] Elleo, thanks, that looks good [14:43] jhodapp: yeah, stumbled on it when trying to add video support to podbird :) [14:43] Elleo, nice, I was just playing with podbird...nicely done [14:44] Elleo, I've wanted a really good podcast client for UT, so if I get some time I may help hack on it [14:44] jhodapp: its about to get a whole lot better, nik90 has done a tonne of awesome work along with some new design work from Kevin Feyder :) [14:44] oh very nice! [14:44] jhodapp: there's a beta for the new version here: http://nik90.com/podbird-v0-6-call-for-testing/ [14:46] Elleo, awesome, I'll give that a spin! [14:46] great, let us know if you hit any problems :) [14:46] it works nicely! [14:46] will do [14:46] nik90, you rock man [14:46] popey: glad to hear it :) [14:46] +1 [14:46] can you make a deb please for my desktop :) [14:47] popey: done: https://launchpad.net/~podbird-devs/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ;) [14:47] and an exe for popey gameos :D [14:47] popey: holding off on making the desktop ppa especially public until we fix one last issue we spotted last night though [14:49] hello [14:49] ? [14:49] popey: the next step in the master plan will be push notifications, recommendations and syncing between desktop and phone (or multiple phones) via (the complete unfinished) podbird.org [14:49] im trying to install ubuntu touch on nexus 4, does it still a preview or is it fully running? [14:50] somehow a podcast client I hacked together over christmas has taken over a big chunk of my life :P [14:50] anyone? [14:50] ooooh [14:50] Kekambas: it's a fully usable system (depending on what your needs are); you can install basically the same stuff that's running on the shipping ubuntu phones on the nexus 4 [14:51] so it is stable? [14:51] !devices | Kekambas [14:51] Kekambas: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [14:51] Kekambas: the stable branch is pretty stable [14:51] lol [14:51] Kekambas: the devel/devel-proposed branches are less stable (but more cutting edge) [14:51] for general use you're probably best going with the stable branch [14:52] is it possible to install ubuntu touch via windows? [14:53] no idea on that front I'm afraid [14:53] not sure if its possible with any of the normal android flashing tools [14:53] even if we could simulate a terminal on windows, it wouldnt apt-get right? [14:53] but the recommended way is to use ubuntu-device-flash on a linux system [14:54] Elleo: \o/ this is nice :) [14:54] mmmm [14:54] popey: good :) [14:54] i have no experience using linux [14:55] Kekambas: I believe its also possible to install via the multiboot tool inside android (to create a dualboot system), I don't have any experience of that myself though [14:55] or is that multirom? [14:55] something like that [14:55] http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/how-to-flash-ubuntu-touch-from-windows.html [14:55] check that out [14:56] but thats not updated [14:56] Kekambas: yeah, I wouldn't recommend following something from 2013, a lot has changed since then [14:56] maybe MultiRom Manager is good [14:57] do you guys know any guide about multirom [14:57] Kekambas: check its FOSS website, alot of nice guides there [14:58] i used to do that but with my droid razr, didnt know it was possible on n4 till now [14:58] lol [14:58] guides about multirom [14:59] xD [15:02] maybe you need this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tassadar.multirommgr&hl=en [15:05] i just installed it [15:05] now.. [15:06] where i can download the ubuntu touch image [15:06] Kekambas: see the wiki install link in topic [15:08] Kekambas: it's downloaded through the app, it's not really feasible to download the images by hand [15:08] which app? [15:08] im not using ubuntu ATM [15:10] kenvandine: fixed the issue with my ubuntu-system-settings branch. [15:10] Kekambas: sorry, didn't read the whole conversation - do you want to dual-boot ubuntu touch, or just install it on your device? [15:11] its better to have dual boot? [15:11] or just to install it [15:11] ? [15:12] i think the best for me is dual boot, cause i use a few apps that are not available on ubuntu [15:12] in the MultiRom Manager you can download the img [15:12] jhodapp: thnx :) Just doing my part to help build a great podcast app which has a legitimate use case on the phone. [15:12] ok [15:12] nik90, indeed, it's one of my most used apps on my other phone (which shall remain unnamed) ;) [15:13] ill take a look and ill be back in a few [15:13] jhodapp: haha :D [15:13] will multirom replace my recovery? [15:16] ? [15:17] yes [15:17] Kekambas have you read http://2buntu.com/articles/1510/installing-ubuntu-touch-with-multirom/ [15:26] dednick, thx [15:29] mmm [15:29] Kekambas: have you found it [15:29] using it with multirom will allow me to use it for daily basis? [15:29] yes [15:29] multirom its downloading it [15:30] but i want to use it for my main rom [15:30] im tired of android and i have IOS [15:30] Elleo, are you sure you don't want to the autopilot package to depend on the specific version of ubuntu-keyboard-tests ? [15:30] to match the others [15:31] kenvandine: ah, yeah, that might be best; I'll update that [15:31] Elleo, cool [15:31] ? [15:32] can i use the one in multirom as my main rom [15:32] ? [15:32] hard to say, not sure many people test that [15:32] no, but you can set it up to boot as default === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [15:33] mmm [15:33] ok [15:33] is there any list of supported apps? [15:33] kenvandine: pushed a fix :) [15:42] ogra_: that icon disappearing thing is more widespread. [15:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1445979 [15:43] Ubuntu bug 1445979 in Canonical System Image "app icons disappeared " [Undecided,New] [15:43] not just people flip-flopping between releases [15:44] popey, double idcons for apps from the custom tarball is custom tarrball and channel hopping related [15:44] we have another bug where scopes dont show icons due to QtNetwork issues [15:44] and this one above looks like something new, not related to the two others [15:45] popey, so i'd say we have at least three different bugs here [15:45] thats a new one and very odd [15:45] yes [15:45] we never had the launcher affected before [15:46] * ogra_ wonders if the icon cache gopt corrupted ... by i.e. installing a deb with icons :) [15:47] all icon packs on desktop try to re-generate the cache from the postinst [15:47] iof that fails you might be left with a corrupt cache ... [15:47] *if [15:53] Document viewer has in icon. is this normal or this is a bug? [15:53] sorry has no icon... [15:55] muka, if you installed it from the store regulary on an unmodified OS this is definitely a bug [15:56] well, i installed it from ppa:ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/daily [15:58] uh [15:58] so you made your system writable and all [15:58] well, then it can be anything [15:59]