[00:20] <tzanolo> ls
[00:20] <tzanolo> good evening.
[00:20] <tzanolo> i create a user for my sister, add user
[00:20] <tzanolo> and a password
[00:21] <tzanolo> now she can use sudo with her own password. I dont want it. I need a password for sudo that is not the same password for a normal user
[00:25] <hkrrsx> tzanolo: It's generally not advised to set/change the root user's password for this purpose, please see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:26] <tzanolo> i dont want to enable root acount
[00:26] <tzanolo> i just want a normal user can run sudo
[00:26] <hkrrsx> You said she already can run sudo with her own password, that's normal
[00:27] <hkrrsx> That's proper use of sudo, afaik
[00:27] <vonsyd0w> take her out of the sudo group
[00:28] <tzanolo> ok, taker her off from sudo group
[00:29] <davidbm> join #dev-co
[00:31] <tzanolo> I`ll learn it now!
[00:32] <tzanolo> sudo deluser visita sudo
[00:35] <vonsyd0w> if the username is $visita, yea thats the correct command
[00:39] <daftykins> i thought the group was 'admin'
[00:39] <daftykins> yep
[00:41] <vonsyd0w> daftykins, http://askubuntu.com/q/43317/859
[00:42] <daftykins> i made the mistake of looking on my 10.04.4 system here :D
[00:42] <daftykins> which has 10 days left of life!
[00:43] <deadmund> daftykins: better switch!
[00:43] <daftykins> yeah already reinstalled, just haven't moved IRC yet (:
[00:53] <deadmund> I am using ubuntu on an SDD (very recently install).  Do I need to do anything special in fstab or anything else to protect / prolong the life of the SSD??
[00:54] <gzcwnk> interesting Q
[00:54] <gzcwnk> i am about to do that as well
[00:54] <EriC^^> deadmund: yeah, i don't know exactly what, you have to add trim or something to it
[00:54] <hkrrsx> deadmund: Yes, check out fstrim .... http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man8/fstrim.8.html
[00:55] <daftykins> i think it's all built in these days
[00:56] <teka> Anyone one else use another language for there keyboard? For me it does not switch, why is this?
[00:56] <EriC^^> http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim deadmund
[00:56] <bazhang> !trim | deadmund
[00:57] <AkashicLegend> what's a simple command I can use to display the content of multiple text files on the terminal
[00:57] <EriC^^> AkashicLegend: cat
[00:57] <AkashicLegend> that's what I put in
[00:57] <EriC^^> AkashicLegend: cat <file1> <file2> , or cat /path/to/files/*
[00:57] <deadmund> bazhang: I'm running 14.10 (hdparm -I /dev/sda    says that my drive does support TRIM (limit 8 blocks).  Your most recent link / statement indicates it's already activated by default ( I'm assuming that   the discard keyword should be in my fstab if this feature is active?)
[00:58] <genii> If you don't want it all scrollling by pipe it to less
[00:58] <deadmund> bazhang: Howcan I verify that TRIM is active on my system??
[01:02] <SuspiciousWombat> I want to try Ubuntu , should i choose still 14.10? , wait till 15 comes ? or just use the beta ?
[01:03] <xangua> SuspiciousWombat: LTS is also an option, 4 years left of support
[01:04] <SuspiciousWombat> xangua, Thanks :) But i would switch anyway when it is coming out
[01:04] <Bashing-om> SuspiciousWombat: ^^ just getting started .. 14.04 for long term stability is highly recommended .
[01:06] <SuspiciousWombat> Bashing-om, im not totally new to Linux if you mean this :D
[01:06] <Ben64> i'd still recommend 14.04
[01:06] <SuspiciousWombat> :)
[01:06] <SuspiciousWombat> Ok Thanks guys (and girls)
[01:07] <deadmund> bazhang: I see, there is a cron job for it as your link ( http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim/19480#19480 ) described.  Thanks for the help!
[01:23] <ika> hi all ... can anyone help me to get the resoltion of my ubuntu running in vbox to full hd ^^ i´ve installed the vbox guest addidtions but xrandr still say my maximum resolution is 1024 x 768^^
[01:24] <EriC^^> ika: change GRUB_GFXMODE in /etc/default/grub then sudo update-grub
[01:24] <daftykins> i'd check 3D accel is on on the guest
[01:24] <daftykins> and check the VRAM size
[01:24] <ika> Eric^^ ok i´ll do so :D
[01:25] <ika> daftykins 3d accel is active and vram is 2048 mb
[01:25] <EriC^^> ika: you might need to set GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX to keep
[01:25] <daftykins> lol you can't put a VM on 2GB that's silly :P
[01:26] <ika> Eric^^ ok
[01:26] <ika> why not :D?
[01:26] <daftykins> you know i mean video RAM not system RAM yeah?
[01:26] <ika> ah
[01:26] <ika> ne
[01:26] <daftykins> :D
[01:26] <ika> though system ram ^^
[01:26] <ika> ^^
[01:26] <ika> vram is 128 mb i think
[01:26] <ika> ^^
[01:33] <ika> do i have to add GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX to the /etc/default /grubcause i cant find it there or is in an other file ?
[01:35] <genii> ika: Yes, thats the file it goes in
[01:35] <ika> genii ok thx =)
[01:36] <genii> ika: Don't forget after to: sudo update-grub   and: sudo update-initramfs -u
[01:36] <ika> genii ok
[01:46] <Hxxx> hi, weird issue. Everytime I finish a ubuntu 14.04.2 64 bit install in a proxmox kvm(vm) , it boots to grub rescue
[01:46] <Hxxx> anyone with a similar issue
[01:46] <Hxxx> ?
[01:51] <teaearlgraycold> How do you read from a pipe in a shell script?
[01:51] <teaearlgraycold> I need awk to read from stdin from within a script
[01:56] <ika> ls
[01:56] <ika> ls
[01:56] <ika> oh shit
[01:56] <ika> sry
[02:30] <ernesto> ayuda
[02:30] <Bigfreedom> que
[02:36] <Guest18397> alguien me puede ayudar
[02:37] <Guest18397> soy novato en ubuntu
[02:37] <somsip> !pr | Guest18397
[02:37] <somsip> !br | Guest18397
[02:38] <xangua> it's spanish somsip ;)
[02:38] <Guest18397> pero soy Argentino no hablo portuges
[02:38] <somsip> xangua: I thought portuguese. Sorry Guest18397
[02:38] <somsip> !es
[02:41] <Guest18397> gracias igual no me responden alli
[02:42] <Bigfreedom> qué problema ha
[02:43] <Mad3ngineer> hey, I have been spending the past hour trying to get VSFTPD working... I am probably just doing something stupid, but I can't for the life of me make my /var/www folder so that I can upload files to it via ftp (I am using FileZilla for client, Ubuntu 14.04 on host). I am getting a 550 error. Here is my vsftpd.conf http://pastebin.com/wz9sTRBA I have /var/www set to chmod 755 and chowned to the user who I can login as, even though I
[02:43] <Mad3ngineer> get a 550 error. Funny part is, the user can't even edit in their home directory.
[02:43] <Mad3ngineer> can someone help me out?
[02:44] <Ben64> Mad3ngineer: i'd suggest using sftp(transfers files using ssh) instead of ftp
[02:44] <Mad3ngineer> to clarify, I can login properly via FTP, and if I enter incorrect password, it boots me out, as it should, but when I try to make any changes, it messes up
[02:44] <Mad3ngineer> For the current uses, I am going to use it over LAN entirely, so I am not that concerned about security at this point
[02:44] <Mad3ngineer> I will work on security later
[02:45] <Ben64> sftp is easier and more secure
[02:45] <Bigfreedom> Guest18397 qué problema ha
[02:45] <Mad3ngineer> will changing to sftp fix that problem?
[02:45] <Ben64> likely, yes
[02:45] <Mad3ngineer> all right, thanks. I'll google up on it
[02:45] <Ben64> all you need is a ssh server running
[02:46] <Mad3ngineer> which I have, OpenSSH
[02:46] <Ben64> then you're all set
[02:46] <Mad3ngineer> so, nothing has to be changed in config?
[02:46] <Ben64> nope
[02:46] <Mad3ngineer> Then what am I doing wrong?
[02:46] <Mad3ngineer> 550 errors for days
[02:46] <Ben64> well you need to use a sftp client
[02:46] <Mad3ngineer> aka not filezilla
[02:46] <Mad3ngineer> maybe that's why I always had problems...
[02:46] <Ben64> idk if that does it, but its not the same thing as ftp
[02:47] <Mad3ngineer> filezilla is an FTP client, but lemme check if it supports sftp
[02:47] <Mad3ngineer> yeah, it does
[02:47] <Gerowen> Filezilla does support sftp, you just have put sftp:// in front of the destination
[02:47] <Mad3ngineer> let me try it out...
[02:48] <Mad3ngineer> hmm, now when I try to /mkdir test it outputs "mkdir /home/mad3ngineer/test: failure"
[02:49] <tim`> in vivid I have to boot an older 3.16 kernel instead of 3.19 for keyboard to work on ecryptfs prompt (macbook pro 11,3) -- anyone know if there is a fix for this? Seems like some people have had similar issues in 3.19 because some HID modules were shuffled around and maybe not in the initrd ?
[02:49] <Ben64> tim`: #ubuntu+1 for vivid support until release
[02:49] <Mad3ngineer> man... VSFTPD has been cruel to configure for me
[02:49] <tim`> release is near tho :o
[02:49] <Mad3ngineer> probably just something really stupid I am doing, like i said...
[02:49] <Ben64> Mad3ngineer: sftp has nothing to do with vsftpd...
[02:50] <Mad3ngineer> I am using vsftpd as my server
[02:50] <Mad3ngineer> so, it has to do with my errors, but maybe not sftp
[02:50] <Gerowen> Mad3ngineer: I'm a little late to the game, but on all my setups I've never bothered with VSFTPD, I just install the SSH server and it supports SFTP out of the box.
[02:50] <Ben64> and i'm trying to get you to see that sftp is completely different, better, and more secure
[02:50] <Mad3ngineer> oh, seriously?
[02:50] <Gerowen> Mad3ngineer: openssh-server I believe is the package I always use.
[02:50] <Mad3ngineer> so, vsftpd is uneeded with OpenSSH?
[02:51] <Gerowen> Mad3ngineer: Yeah I use it all the time to move files around between my laptop and my desktop in the living room.
[02:51] <Ben64> Mad3ngineer: more than unneeded, its not related
[02:51] <Mad3ngineer> dang, then I already had OpenSSH and didn't realise it supported SFTP/FTP
[02:51] <Ben64> there is no sftp/ftp
[02:51] <Mad3ngineer> just sftp?
[02:51] <Ben64> right, its a file transfer protocol over ssh
[02:52] <Mad3ngineer> ok.
[02:52] <Mad3ngineer> ill read up on this. thanks for pointing me in right direction
[02:52] <Ben64> when you log in as a user using sftp, you'll have all the permissions as you would normally
[02:52] <Mad3ngineer> ah, that makes this really easy
[03:03] <Voyage> What smtp servers are available for ubuntu/debian?
[03:04] <daftykins> apt-cache search smtp
[03:05] <vonsyd0w> all of them
[03:06] <Mad3ngineer> well, I am seeing some problems that may be related to hard disk space... I am running this on a VBox instance, with a virtual hard drive, initially set to 8 gigs. I just tried setting it to 16 gigs with gparted, making the overloaded main partition 16 gigs, (all this after running the vbox_modify command or whatever). Now that I start up ubuntu again, I am seeing the same problem... When I run df -h, it shows 100% usage and it still
[03:06] <Mad3ngineer> shows the partition with the same size as before I used GParted... It is as if the changes I made in GParted are invisible to ubuntu, but not to GParted... When I started Gparted again, puzzled, sure enough it was still showing the new partition as having 16 gigs (8 free gigs)
[03:07] <Mad3ngineer> not the new partition, the old one.
[03:07] <Mad3ngineer> I didnt make a new one.
[03:08] <Mad3ngineer> is there a command of some sorts that I need to run to make ubuntu see the changes made in GParted?
[03:08] <Voyage> daftykins,  postfix is good.  setting up an smtp,  + getting the headers in php right. is a headache as making them go through spam filters is a lot of work
[03:09] <daftykins> Voyage: sounds like you're answering your own question? :)
[03:09] <vonsyd0w> Mad3ngineer, resize2fs is probably what you're looking for
[03:09] <Mad3ngineer> better than gparted?
[03:09] <Voyage> daftykins,  yes. needed comments on it
[03:10] <daftykins> dunno, don't do my own email :)
[03:10] <daftykins> life is too short!
[03:10] <vonsyd0w> you need to let the filesystem know about the newly added GBs to the partition
[03:11] <Mad3ngineer> makes sense. I guess I need to run resize2fs on my ubuntu instance, the one that is clogged up?
[03:13] <vonsyd0w> make sure you read the man pages for the command beforehand. backup anything important as well
[03:13] <Mad3ngineer> since my server is a virtual instance, I already have it backed up easily
[03:14] <vonsyd0w> the beauty of VMs; makes testing easy
[03:14] <Mad3ngineer> good for inexperienced persons, such as myself...
[03:14] <Mad3ngineer> well, I looked on the main page with no clue as to what to do... found this http://geekpeek.net/resize-filesystem-fdisk-resize2fs/
[03:15] <Mad3ngineer> ran the umount command, and it tells me device is busy...
[03:17] <vonsyd0w> you can't unmount a partition if its in use. if you booted into the VM, the device (partition) is in use
[03:18] <Mad3ngineer> ugh... *scratches head*
[03:18] <vonsyd0w> to my knowledge you should be able to run resize2fs on a live filesystem and it'll automagically extend it
[03:18] <Mad3ngineer> ok
[03:18] <vonsyd0w> Mad3ngineer, your best option is to boot to a live cd and make the changes there.
[03:19] <Mad3ngineer> all right
[03:19] <vonsyd0w> that way the device isn't in use and you can run fsck afterwards
[03:20] <Mad3ngineer> all this stuff is kind of confusing.... gonna try to do that
[03:23] <vonsyd0w> ask questions if it helps
[03:24] <Mad3ngineer> well, reading on resize2fs's main page, it says that it doesn't change the size of partitions... I have already done that. That seems to imply that it could do all the filesystem remounting, while the instance is still running, like you said... Now, it wouldn't happen to be an apt-get file, would it? I don't see a .deb link anywhere on the site
[03:25] <Sl0P3> so uh
[03:25] <Sl0P3> ubuntu hacked me
[03:25] <Sl0P3> so I quit life
[03:26] <[Saint]> And here we have the emotionally imbalanced IRC troll, in his natural environment, #ubuntu
[03:27] <[Saint]> Look at his beautiful markings. See him stalk his prey.
[03:28] <[Saint]> In moments of territorial shortages, the emotionally imbalanced IRC troll has been known to take up residence in #Cyanogenmod for short periods.
[03:28] <vonsyd0w> Mad3ngineer, you're trying to get an Ubuntu VM with a 16GB vdi file as its HD, to see all 16GB, right?
[03:28] <Mad3ngineer> yes
[03:28] <Mad3ngineer> currently it sees 8 gigs
[03:28] <vonsyd0w> its currently only seeing 8GB
[03:28] <Mad3ngineer> i have the partition set to 16 gigs
[03:28] <Mad3ngineer> using GParted
[03:29] <Mad3ngineer> I just dont understand why my /dev/mapper/blahblah doesnt see all of it
[03:30] <vonsyd0w> if you run "lsblk /dev/mapper/blahblah" what does it show?
[03:30] <vonsyd0w> brb smoke break
[03:30] <Mad3ngineer> aight
[03:31] <alteregoa> happy 4/20 day
[03:31] <Mad3ngineer> gitlab--vg-root (NAME) 252:0 (MAJ:MIN) 6.7G (SIZE) 0 (RO) lvm (TYPE) / (MOUNTPOINT)
[03:38] <brennan_> !connect  irc.twitch.tv
[03:43] <captpicard> ubuntu 14.04, every time i want to play a youtube video in firefox, i have to clear the browsing history, else it just hangs at loading. only happens on my ubuntu firefox.
[03:44] <[Saint]> For other puzzling things /dev/mapper doesn't do - see: encrypted home partitions with LVM
[03:44] <daftykins> try a clean profile, captpicard
[03:45] <daftykins> also the guest session
[03:45] <[Saint]> swap on encrypted home with LVM, I'm looking at you, buddy.
[03:45] <jswagner> captpicard: test with a clean firefox profile?  very unlikely to be specific to ubuntu
[03:45] <[Saint]> I traced the history of the breakage, and, frankly, it's shocking.
[03:45] <[Saint]> Does like no one ever use encrypted home w/ LVM ?
[03:46] <[Saint]> Or, if they do, do they never notice swap is broken?
[03:46] <captpicard> where's my firefox profile stored? .mozilla in my home directory? should i just erase the directory?
[03:46] <[Saint]> The fact that it's "just" an offset snafu makes it even worse.
[03:46] <jswagner> captpicard: or, you know, move it temporarily so firefox can't find it, just to test
[03:46] <jswagner> captpicard: no need to go nuclear
[03:47] <captpicard> k
[03:47] <captpicard> thx
[03:48] <vonsyd0w> Mad3ngineer, that doesn't look like its 16GB
[03:48] <daftykins> captpicard: or alt+F2, type "firefox -P" it seems
[03:49] <Mad3ngineer> i know that GParted shows 16 gigs partitioned
[03:49] <Mad3ngineer> idk...
[03:50] <vonsyd0w> did you boot to a gparted LiveCD and resize?
[03:50] <Mad3ngineer> yes
[03:50] <Mad3ngineer> i triple checked it
[03:50] <vonsyd0w> is the .vdi file for the VM 16GB?
[03:50] <Mad3ngineer> yes, already ran the command to resize that from VBox
[03:51] <daftykins> Mad3ngineer: "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit" ?
[03:51] <vonsyd0w> oh its an LVM!
[03:51] <daftykins> ugh LVM :P i'm out then XD
[03:51] <Mad3ngineer> uhh
[03:51] <vonsyd0w> just realized that, you'll need to extend the LVM as well
[03:51] <Mad3ngineer> uhhhhhh
[03:51] <Mad3ngineer> so....
[03:51] <captpicard> well, wiping out .mozilla didnt seem to help. maybe i should just reinstall firefox
[03:51] <daftykins> captpicard: no, as above
[03:51] <daftykins> run the profile manager.
[03:52] <daftykins> captpicard: also - http://askubuntu.com/questions/128036/how-to-run-firefox-profilemanager-with-unity
[03:52] <Mad3ngineer> starting up gparted again
[03:52] <Mad3ngineer> gonna look for lvm stuff
[03:52] <vonsyd0w> lvextend is the command to do that
[03:53] <Mad3ngineer> wait... so not in GParted?
[03:53] <captpicard> heh
[03:53] <vonsyd0w> device -> partition -> lvm -> filesystem. it needs to be adjusted in that order. I've never used gparted to extend lvms; just partitions
[03:53] <captpicard> great
[03:54] <captpicard> wiped the profile, created a new profile, now i have no sound at all
[03:54] <Mad3ngineer> ah, ok.
[03:54] <raju> how about lvextend ? its not going to work in this case ?
[03:54] <Mad3ngineer> so, in the partition, I expanded /dev/sda2 which contains the /dev/sda5 which is full
[03:54] <captpicard> ok, just gonna reinstall firefox
[03:54] <Mad3ngineer> that is step 2, right
[03:55] <Mad3ngineer> and i also expanded /dev/sda5
[03:55] <Mad3ngineer> just for clarification
[03:55] <Mad3ngineer> so uh, lvextend
[03:55] <Mad3ngineer> heh
[03:56] <vonsyd0w> lets slow down; lets do what daftykins recommended and see your fdisk -l output; please use paste.ubuntu.com for that
[03:56] <Mad3ngineer> ok
[03:57] <Mad3ngineer> wow... as I wait for my instance to load up, paste.ubuntu.com is so much more to-the-point than pastebin. I like it.
[03:58] <Mad3ngineer> well, I just typed in fdisk -l output
[03:58] <Mad3ngineer> nothing outputs... at all...
[03:58] <vonsyd0w> you'll need to be root
[03:58] <vonsyd0w> or use sudo
[03:58] <captpicard> i think reinstalling firefox fixed the problem
[03:58] <Mad3ngineer> ah, ok
[03:58] <Mad3ngineer> *facepalm*
[03:59] <Mad3ngineer> still nothing
[03:59] <vonsyd0w> so on the VM, if you type "sudo fdisk -l" you get no output? what?
[03:59] <Mad3ngineer> as useless as this is... paste.ubuntu.com/10854540/
[04:00] <vonsyd0w> remove the word output
[04:00] <cfhowlett> !@
[04:00] <vonsyd0w> just type fdisk -l
[04:00] <Mad3ngineer> oh my god im retarded
[04:00] <daftykins> no
[04:00] <daftykins> type "sudo fdisk -l"
[04:00] <vonsyd0w> if you look at the prompt, he is root
[04:00] <daftykins> oh you were root yes
[04:00] <daftykins> my bad, 5am here.
[04:00] <vonsyd0w> close your eyes...
[04:00] <daftykins> i'm actually a regular volunteer here, just one that should not be awake :D
[04:01] <Mad3ngineer> paste.ubuntu.com/10854543/
[04:01] <Mad3ngineer> there we go.... now that we got past the derpiness
[04:01] <Mad3ngineer> <-- source of derpiness
[04:02] <daftykins> so yeah your disk is 16GB, your LV is 8
[04:02] <daftykins> well, 7 without swap
[04:02] <Mad3ngineer> so... now, I use lvextend?
[04:02] <daftykins> presumably, i'm not an LVM person (:
[04:03] <Mad3ngineer> I am starting to wonder if hitting enter on that default value during the installation was a bad idea
[04:03] <Mad3ngineer> "Guided lvm installation" or whatever the hell it was
[04:03] <Mad3ngineer> so uh, heh... trying to use lvextend
[04:04] <daftykins> i always avoid LVM as i don't have a clue how to use it \o/
[04:04] <Mad3ngineer> that sounds like the plan I should be using
[04:04] <vonsyd0w> for home use its not the best for beginners. I don't use it on my laptop, but its in use on all my servers
[04:05] <Mad3ngineer> what are the benefits of it?
[04:05] <Mad3ngineer> ugh I dont know what number to put in for lvextend
[04:06] <vonsyd0w> can you type vgs, pvs, and lvs at the root prompt
[04:06] <vonsyd0w> separate commands
[04:07] <vonsyd0w> one after the other and paste.ubuntu.com that
[04:07] <vonsyd0w> I'm thinking you'll need to extend the volume group before the lvm
[04:07] <Mad3ngineer> paste.ubuntu.com/10854555/
[04:08] <Mad3ngineer> volume and partition groups are already expanded
[04:08] <vonsyd0w> nope just the lvm
[04:08] <Mad3ngineer> but what number should I set it to? lvextend 15.38g?
[04:08] <Mad3ngineer> I am so confused
[04:10] <vonsyd0w> lvextend /dev/mapper/gitlab--vg-root /dev/sda5
[04:10] <vonsyd0w> that'll extend it to the amount of available free space
[04:10] <Mad3ngineer> ahhh ok. thanks
[04:10] <Mad3ngineer> yus
[04:10] <Mad3ngineer> finally some progress
[04:10] <Mad3ngineer> now, will LVM just kick in and resize the file system or will I need to do something else
[04:12] <vonsyd0w> well lvextend has the "-r" flag which would of extended the underlying filesystem as well. you can do it manually with resize2fs. you should run fsck on the filesystem to check consistency
[04:12] <Mad3ngineer> aight, so fsck first or after?
[04:12] <vonsyd0w> after resizing
[04:14] <Mad3ngineer> now, what I am trying to do is resize2fs /dev/mapper/gitlab--vg-root /dev/sda5
[04:14] <Mad3ngineer> I assume that is wrong?
[04:14] <Mad3ngineer> its giving me an invalid new size
[04:15] <vonsyd0w> "/dev/sda5" isn't a size. remove that
[04:15] <Mad3ngineer> oh, so that isnt needed. thus the [] brackets
[04:15] <Mad3ngineer> thank you so much vonsyd0w
[04:16] <Mad3ngineer> now my df -h is looking good and I learned something new
[04:16] <vonsyd0w> boom, its like magic
[04:17] <Mad3ngineer> dang, it really is. My ftp is magically working too now... *chuckle* who would have thought that lack of space would prevent file uploading? *nervous laugh*
[04:17] <Mad3ngineer> *note to self* check df -h when you experience problems with file uploading randomly
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> How do I update this key? W: GPG error: http://swupdate.openvpn.net trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1406982466 KEYEXPIRED 1406982466 KEYEXPIRED 1406982466
[04:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> wget -O - https://swupdate.openvpn.net/repos/repo-public.gpg|apt-key add -
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> !gpg | TyrfingMjolnir
[04:58] <TyrfingMjolnir> Already fixed: This is the answer: wget -O - https://swupdate.openvpn.net/repos/repo-public.gpg|apt-key add -
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> !yay | TyrfingMjolnir
[04:59] <TyrfingMjolnir> I'm amazed how long answers it's possible to receive on irc without seeing the answer.
[05:01] <vonsyd0w> what?
[05:06] <tianzuo> halo
[05:14] <splitwire> exit
[05:14] <mehdi_> how can i upgrade my gedit from 3.10 to 3.14 or 3.16
[05:14] <mehdi_> ?
[05:15] <tianzuo> 有人能看懂中文么
[05:16] <somsip> !zh | tianzuo
[05:16] <somsip> mehdi_: what version of ubuntu?
[05:16] <mehdi_> 14.04
[05:16] <somsip> !info gedit trusty | mehdi_ (this is the current official version)
[05:17] <somsip> mehdi_: so it is 3.10, which means you have to go to unsupported, unofficial sources for a more recent version
[05:17] <somsip> !ppa | mehdi_
[05:18] <mehdi_> somsip, well there was a ppa but seems the name was incorect
[05:18] <somsip> mehdi_: use the ppa search - see above
[05:19] <Blue1> mehdi_: you prolly could get the sources here and compile it:  https://bensbells.org/
[05:19] <Blue1> oops
[05:19] <Blue1> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Gedit
[05:19] <Blue1> mehdi_: why do you want to upgrade?  curious?
[05:23] <mehdi_> Blue1, well the new UI is awesome :D thats y
[05:23] <Blue1> hmm dunno happy with what's available I guess
[05:23] <Blue1> mehdi_: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gedit/3.16/
[05:24] <mehdi_> Blue1, its 3MB its currect?
[05:26] <ANJ7> I have a problem with my mouse
[05:27] <ANJ7> I just dragged something and the mouse became the image of the dragged item.
[05:27] <ANJ7> and now my mouse is like a small window
[05:27] <TyrfingMjolnir> My apt only has:  trusty main restricted multiverse universe
[05:27] <TyrfingMjolnir> How do I add the erratas?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: you have an ati grafix card?
[05:29] <ANJ7> lotuspsychje: nope
[05:29] <ANJ7> mine is intel built-in
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: sounds like a graphics bug
[05:30] <ANJ7> lotuspsychje: yea, I've seen it many time
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: ubuntu version and grafix chipset + driver loaded?
[05:30] <ANJ7> ubuntu 14.10
[05:31] <TyrfingMjolnir> How can I list the reason for packages to have been kept back?
[05:31] <ANJ7> I don't know to see grafix chipset adn driver
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: sudo lshw -C video
[05:31] <ANJ7> ok
[05:32] <Ben64> TyrfingMjolnir: depends, whats going on
[05:32] <dtscode> hey guys... for whatever reason the firefox button for a new tab disappeared. how can i get it back?
[05:32] <TyrfingMjolnir> Ben64: http://pastie.org/private/u82e6kaet7fkqbt6vsjcw
[05:33] <ANJ7> lotuspsychje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10854705/
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: driver seems fine
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: did you have same problem on 14.04?
[05:34] <Ben64> TyrfingMjolnir: thats not good
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> dtscode: you could try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/507526/reset-firefox-from-command-line
[05:35] <dtscode> thanks
[05:36] <triariilendel> could someone help me out with an issue I'm having?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> triariilendel: if you give us details
[05:37] <triariilendel> not sure if the IRC should be used for that
[05:37] <triariilendel> I wrote it up here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2274373
[05:37] <Ben64> if its not an ubuntu issue, then its not for this channel
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> triariilendel: ubuntu version?
[05:38] <triariilendel> 14.04
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> triariilendel: does keyboard pickup your keys in setup?
[05:38] <triariilendel> setup?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> triariilendel: ubuntu install proces
[05:39] <triariilendel> I've been using it for a while, only just stopped working
[05:39] <vexati0n> so... running Ubuntu Gnome on a HiDPI screen. Is there any way to scale this thing properly? Why does it only allow "normal size" and "twice as big" ?
[05:39] <triariilendel> when I installed it a week ago, the keyboard did work during install
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> triariilendel: anything unusual happened, updates?
[05:40] <triariilendel> nope. Tried installing the unofficial linux drivers for the keyboard, but that isn't installing either
[05:40] <TyrfingMjolnir> Ben64: Used the oldest trick in the book: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/69/Some_upgrades_show_packages_being_kept_back and now it works.
[05:40] <triariilendel> I did some research and it should be working /without/ using the linux drivers
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> triariilendel: if it work at your first fresh install...you might wanna reinstall fresh then
[05:41] <triariilendel> no other way to do it then? have to reinstall everything
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> triariilendel: perhaps there is, but i wouldnt know
[05:42] <ANJ7> lotuspsychje: nope, I didn't have any problem with that
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> triariilendel: maybe grub recoverymode, fix broken packages ?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> ANJ7: then you might wanna consider reinstalling 14.04 or wait till next week to install 15.04
[05:43] <triariilendel> wouldn't reinstalling input drivers achieve the same thing?
[05:43] <Blue1> triariilendel: might try this?  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> triariilendel: we dont know what happened to your system yet
[05:44] <ANJ7> lotuspsychje: oh, 15.04 releases next week?
[05:44] <triariilendel> not sure how recovering through GRUB would work though?
[05:45] <ANJ7> released*
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | triariilendel
[05:45] <triariilendel> it's not failing to boot though
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !release | ANJ7
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> triariilendel: i would try the fix broken packages on grub recovery before you reinstall
[05:46] <triariilendel> bleh
[05:48] <ANJ7> lotuspsychje: is there any change in the ui of ubuntu 15.04?
[05:51] <employee> sfg
[05:55] <codemagician> Has anyone managed to get Ubuntu 14.04.2 Desktop 64-bit running on an Intel NUC 5i5RYH (Intel HD Graphics 6000) ?
[05:55] <codemagician> I've having problems with the UI widgets not showing up
[06:04] <ses1984> i'm trying to create a vpn configuration where i specify "additional DNS servers" under ipv4 configuration
[06:04] <rezamuzay> Playing error : Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in. at /usr/bin/../share/gmusicbrowser/gmusicbrowser_gstreamer-0.10.pm line 137.
[06:04] <ses1984> i have a name server specified, but when i connect to the vpn, it doesn't seem like that vpn server gets used
[06:05] <ses1984> i have another system that uses it correctly and it seems like the additional nameserver gets added to /etc/resolv.conf
[06:05] <ses1984> also if i do an nslookup foodomain.com then the name resolution fails, but if i pass the ip address of the nameserver to nslookup like: nslookup foodomain.com 10.10.10.10 ... then it works
[06:06] <ses1984> i can reach the dns server behind the vpn. the only problem i have is trying to force ubuntu to add this name server
[06:06] <rezamuzay> i have a problem with this "Playing error : Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in. at /usr/bin/../share/gmusicbrowser/gmusicbrowser_gstreamer-0.10.pm line 137." anyone can help, thanks :)
[06:13] <jonalmeida> Is it easily possible to install the latest version of libvte for Ubuntu 14.04?
[06:14] <jonalmeida> The one is trusty is only 2.90
[06:14] <Ben64> jonalmeida: yep, thats the latest one in 14.04
[06:14] <jonalmeida> The current version is 0.40
[06:15] <jonalmeida> Ben64: Whoops I meant 0.29
[06:15] <Ben64> 0.34 actually
[06:16] <jonalmeida> Ben64: Is there an easy way to update to that then?
[06:16] <Ben64> already has 0.34
[06:17] <Ben64> anyway, you can compile and install whatever you want, but it may compromise stability or packaging
[06:17] <jonalmeida> Ben64: I was secretly hoping for a magic ppa :P
[06:17] <jonalmeida> I guess I'll have to compile then
[06:18] <Ben64> what do you need a newer one for
[06:18] <jonalmeida> True color support is in 0.36: https://gist.github.com/XVilka/8346728
[06:19] <groot55> Has anyone pinned a folder link to the launcher? Is it possible? I'm working in a lot of folders at present and it would be helpful to access them from the launcher. Tried googling this, no luck. Thanks!
[06:36] <shafa> how change my number in whatssapp data base
[06:37] <sheer> is there a channel i can ask for advice on which rom to run on my android?
[06:38] <Ben64> sheer: #android-root probably, '/msg alis list android' to get a list of rooms
[06:38] <k1l_> !alis | sheer
[06:39] <supay> hey, anybody know how to configure mutt to connect to a bluehost server?
[06:40] <sheer> thanks
[07:17] <lchln> Would anyone not busy be so kind as to help me with some partitioning and mounting via the CLI?
[07:22] <kokut> Hello, anyone is having some weird mouse behaviour when clicking? It seems my mouse sometimes clicks 2-3 times when i click
[07:25] <somsip> kokut: only in ubuntu? If not, the mouse is dying
[07:25] <kokut> somsip: i'm not sure if it's only in ubuntu
[07:26] <somsip> kokut: the symptoms sound like a button switch that is past it's best
[07:27] <kokut> somsip: but this mouse is very good and it doesnt even have 1 year
[07:27] <kokut>  if it were an issue it would be that it doesnt click not that it clicks more than once?
[07:28] <somsip> kokut: test it on another computer, then you'll know
[07:28] <kokut> somsip: yea
[07:30] <nullbyte_> only 3 days left for 15.04
[07:34] <yaowenrui> hello
[07:36] <twilight> hello guys I have a problem with ftpd. pure-pw list shows that the UID:GID of my user is 1002:1003, and it's exactly the owner of my homedir. The login is ok, but if I try to upload something or to delete something, I have a permission denied. Any hints?
[07:36] <twilight> sorry, with pure-ftpd
[07:37] <Ben64> twilight: you should use sftp instead
[07:39] <twilight> Ben64: why? Anyway it's not a server that I own so there is no chance for me to change software, just solve this issue
[07:41] <Ben64> twilight: because ftp is not secure
[07:42] <twilight> Ben64: source?
[07:42] <WhatTimeIsIT> Is TORGuard a good VPN or trap? Because I heard HMA Pro VPN is bad so i am thinking of switching to TORGUARD
[07:42] <WhatTimeIsIT> https://torguard.net/
[07:42] <WhatTimeIsIT> Also will it work in CHINA?
[07:42] <iBurley> So is there any way to just fully get rid of the "dash plugins" section of the menu?
[07:43] <WhatTimeIsIT> please PM me if you have the answer
[07:45] <Ben64> twilight: facts
[07:48] <iBurley> Gonna assume I can find it in dconf editor...
[07:54] <iBurley> Coulnd't find it.
[07:55] <lchln> Upon boot I get this " * Starting Read required files in advance (for other mountpoints)       [fail]" which I assume is the thing hanging and not letting me log in. Any ideas?
[07:57] <NeonStorm> Hi all - I'm on an HP Envy and I'm finding the touchpad click to be overly sensitive. Any ideas on how I can fix this?
[08:01] <codemagician> When will 14.04.3 be released?
[08:02] <codemagician> *LTS
[08:06] <OerHeks> codemagician, august > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DraftReleaseSchedule
[08:08] <codemagician> I'm can't get 14.04.2 to work on my NUC5i5RYH so am I forced to use 15.04 ?
[08:09] <codemagician> Can anyone explain what the boot option nomodeset does?
[08:10] <codemagician> I read some articles saying that 14.04.2 LTS with 'nomodeset' would help with the UI graphical problems during the install
[08:10] <OerHeks> codemagician, Intel HD Graphics 6000, sounds like too new
[08:11] <codemagician> OerHeks: I think so.  I didn't see an Intel drivers for their 5th Generation processors (NUC5i5RYH has an i5250U processor)
[08:13] <codemagician> OerHeks: The 15.04 beta 2 install worked just fine, but I'd like to stay with the 14.04 LTS line
[08:14] <codemagician> I wasn't expecting that even the basic graphics for a desktop environment would be all screwed up.  I thought that it would only effect people using 3D or gaming
[08:15] <OerHeks> i see in the xorg edgers newer stuff > https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2014/2014q2-intel-graphics-stack-release > https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:15] <OerHeks> i understand you want to stick with lts, not sure that is going to work for you with this new machine.
[08:16] <codemagician> OerHeks: I was wondering if I installed 14.04.2 server edition and then tried to put the windowing system on it and use the 4th gen drivers from intel
[08:16] <OerHeks> Sure, codemagician, you can install server as a base.
[08:16] <codemagician> OerHeks: at the moment, the 14.04.2 LTS Desktop edition wont make it past the installation process
[08:17] <codemagician> Unless there is a way to install the 14.04.2 LTS Desktop in a command-line style mode
[08:17] <codemagician> i.e. without UI buttons 'next' 'back' continue etc
[08:17] <OerHeks> You also can use the mini iso, that is textbased, but you need internet for the desktop packages
[08:17] <OerHeks> !mini
[08:19] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[08:32] <tnkhanh> Hi I have this program X that depends on Y but I installed Y from source (latest). How do I install X but keep my Y from source?
[08:42] <ANJ7> http://imgur.com/d5hnLVf
[08:42] <ANJ7> hey what happend to my screen there?
[08:42] <xeirrr> How many years for supporting 10.04 LTS server？
[08:43] <DJones> xeirrr: From release date, support was 5 years, 0.04 server will stop being supported at the end of this month
[08:44] <xeirrr> DJones: thank you
[08:47] <spawn`> srs?
[08:48] <spawn`> good good!
[08:48] <spawn`> i need some super help
[08:49] <spawn`> its about my new laptop with eufi w/e bios
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> !details | spawn`
[08:50] <spawn`> my FN numbers work in linux.  but im trying to use an external and it doesnt show up nor work right .  my bios is quite horrible
[08:50] <spawn`> *dont work in ubtil it loads gnome etc
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: an external what?
[08:51] <spawn`> external wireless ALFA card
[08:51] <spawn`> ifconfig picks it up with gibberish instead of info for like wlan0 eth0 etc
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: so your trying to get your wifi working? on wich ubuntu version?
[08:52] <spawn`> its either my wifi.....or my bios not letting me use usb like it should
[08:52] <spawn`> took me 36 hours to figure out how to boot from a usb
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: ubuntu version?
[08:53] <spawn`> im not using ubuntu
[08:53] <spawn`> but im using a debian distro
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: try in ##linux
[08:53] <spawn`> are you kidding?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: or make your life easy, and install ubuntu 14.04 with your wifi card plugged in
[08:54] <spawn`> most people hate me on the net:(
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: you have joined an ubuntu support channel mate
[08:54] <spawn`> i dont think its that easy
[08:54] <`hypermist`> What does it mean when something doesn't have an installation candidate ?
[08:54] <spawn`> i think its a bios issue
[08:54] <spawn`> well ubuntu....debian.....kali
[08:54] <spawn`> almost all the same
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: not here, we only support ubuntu
[08:55] <spawn`> well you are open source fans
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: we have to follow the rules
[08:55] <spawn`> so you cant in your conscience minds ignore please for help
[08:55] <spawn`> ubuntu or not
[08:55] <spawn`> ubuntu or not
[08:55] <spawn`> so nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:56] <DJones> !kali | spawn`
[08:56] <spawn`> sorry....this lappy has those really nice keys but its hard not to hit a key because they are the fat keys
[08:56] <spawn`> are not
[08:56] <Avihay_work> `hypermist` I think it means that the general package name is referenced somewhere, but there is no package file available for download
[08:56] <spawn`> djones
[08:56] <`hypermist`> Avihay_work, okay :D
[08:57] <spawn`> you think im new on irc?  i know those guys their own channels
[08:57] <spawn`> but #1 i hate efnet, @2 kali chan might have 15 pople.....asleep 24/
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> `hypermist`: wich package are you trying to find mate?
[08:57] <Avihay_work> might also be that the specific versions that are available conflict with something. anyway, try looking for the package using google or somth
[08:57] <`hypermist`> lotuspsychje, a whole bunch of postgressql-9.1 packages
[08:58] <`hypermist`> lotuspsychje, apt-get install redis-server postgresql-contrib-9.1 postgresql-9.1 postgresql-server-dev-9.1  this command to be exact
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> `hypermist`: did you try apt-cache search yourpackage?
[08:58] <spawn`> apt-cache?
[08:58] <spawn`> i never knew such a thing existed
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: please use this channel for support questions only
[08:58] <`hypermist`> lotuspsychje, just following what this github page told me to do so no xD
[08:59] <spawn`> well that kind of is a supp question
[08:59] <spawn`> what use would u use cache for?
[08:59] <spawn`> surely if your distro guys deleted it wouldnt be cached would it?
[09:00] <spawn`> not like googlux pages
[09:00] <Avihay_work> `hypermist` on 14.10 the postgresql packages are postfixed with 9.4 instead of 9.1
[09:00] <`hypermist`> dunno spawn` go check
[09:00] <spawn`> heres a support question
[09:00] <`hypermist`> Avihay_work, i sort of required 9.1 packages
[09:01] <spawn`> how do i find out what keys for my lappy dont work
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: we already told you, come back if you install ubuntu
[09:01] <contantine> haii
[09:01] <spawn`> like fn + f2 = shit wifi off
[09:01] <`hypermist`> Press them spawn` hahah :D
[09:01] <spawn`> lotus stop being silly
[09:01] <`hypermist`> spawn`, ##hardware might help yoyr issue
[09:01] <`hypermist`> your *
[09:01] <spawn`> i bet you a cup of man juice itll be the same
[09:02] <spawn`> perhaps....if anyone talks there
[09:02] <spawn`> thats why i miss yahoo
[09:02] <spawn`> they actually talked
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: your trolling the channel with offtopic text, please stop it
[09:02] <spawn`> no im not
[09:02] <`hypermist`> spawn`, if this isnt to do with ubuntu
[09:02] <spawn`> its still based on my central question
[09:02] <`hypermist`> Then it is off topic
[09:02] <Avihay_work> `hypermist`: you may fish them from the repos of older buntu versions, or maybe find a debian version, though it's likely that what you try to do will work with the newer packages as well. you may also look into installing an older buntu in a VM
[09:02] <`hypermist`> spawn`, this isnt support for keyboards
[09:03] <spawn`> how do i use an EUFI bios based laptop with debian and keep my usb shit working?
[09:03] <`hypermist`> Avihay_work, guess i'll try
[09:03] <spawn`> its a general nix question
[09:03] <`hypermist`> spawn`, ##hardware stop talking offtopic
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> spawn`: join #debian
[09:03] <`hypermist`> or ^
[09:03] <spawn`> i like ubuntu folks better
[09:03] <spawn`> maybe
[09:03] <`hypermist`> ubuntu isnt debian
[09:03] <spawn`> haha!
[09:03] <spawn`> yes it is.
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> DJones: can you help him
[09:04] <spawn`> djones
[09:04] <`hypermist`> lotuspsychje, would you like a body bag for spawn` :D
[09:04] <contantine> im a newbie on ubuntu nice to meet you all
[09:04] <ntz> `hypermist`: ##hardware was/is always offtopic so *molestatory, that I'd tend to think, that's it's by design
[09:04] <spawn`> do you really need to start using commands ill eave
[09:04] <spawn`> but lotus is very rude.  deop them please
[09:04] <`hypermist`> ntz, :D oaky
[09:05] <ntz> `hypermist`: i don't include my opinion on it however
[09:05] <spawn`> so im going into a pedo room
[09:05] <`hypermist`> ntz, that is fine
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> !ops | spawn`
[09:05] <spawn`> that is your suggestion?
[09:05] <spawn`> i only bug sysops
[09:06] <spawn`> so that means its a REAL problem
[09:06] <ntz> spawn`: and you really should NOT be OT otherwise prepare for something possibly bad
[09:06] <spawn`> if i wasnt here what would you be doing?  watching "dramatic squirrel" on youtube?
[09:06] <`hypermist`> ntz, he will get what is deserved
[09:06] <Tm_T> spawn`: please stick on the channel topic
[09:06] <spawn`> im not off topic
[09:07] <spawn`> you keep dragging it off topic
[09:07] <Tm_T> spawn`: this is Ubuntu support channel
[09:07] <Tm_T> also, others, refrain the threats
[09:07] <ntz> yes .. omg, this is #ubuntu
[09:07] <spawn`> and ubuntu is a debian distro
[09:07] <spawn`> we use same kernel etc
[09:07] <ntz> `hypermist`: my apologize .... i thought i', in ##hardware
[09:07] <ntz> **i'm in .....
[09:07] <Tm_T> spawn`: we support Ubuntu here, no other distros
[09:07] <Avihay_work>  ubuntu is a debian *based* distro, it's not the same thing
[09:07] <`hypermist`> ntz, i dont mind it doesnt hurt me people have their own opinions :)
[09:08] <spawn`> 90% of my distro is the same so i think you can help me but since i said i dont use ubuntu you segregated me
[09:08] <DJones> spawn`: This a support channel for Ubuntu, not Kali, they have their own support channels, please their own channels, we don't know what changes their developers have made, so it doesn't get supported here
[09:08] <ntz> taking all back ..... hang that guy on the pine tree in the garden
[09:08] <spawn`> agaibst the code of jolly roger
[09:08] <`hypermist`> ntz, LOL
[09:08] <Tm_T> ntz: please stop
[09:08] <Avihay_work> spawn`: it may very well be those extra 10% that get you
[09:08] <`hypermist`> anyway Avihay_work and lotuspsychje answered my question thanks :)
[09:09] <spawn`> this is a pure laptop issue and how x-w and gnome handles my cards
[09:09] <spawn`> but im sure its deeper
[09:09] <Ben64> spawn`: since its on debian and not ubuntu, its not on topic here. thats it
[09:10] <spawn`> so you wouldnt help debian.......despite debian makes your distro exist
[09:10] <spawn`> how mean
[09:10] <spawn`> should i run lived cd and come back?
[09:10] <spawn`> actually that is a good idea
[09:10] <spawn`> but ubuntu doesnt come with aircrack suite does it
[09:10] <Ben64> not a good idea, since your problem is on debian still
[09:11] <Ben64> just head to #debian and ask them, its very simple
[09:11] <spawn`> ive got ubuntu 4 on cd 's tho
[09:11] <Tm_T> if he they can reproduce the issue in Ubuntu we can help solve it in Ubuntu
[09:11] <Tm_T> or at least try
[09:11] <spawn`> well its just weird
[09:11] <Tm_T> spawn`: yes, but that's how we have to go, sorry
[09:11] <Ben64> wouldn't apply to debian, and plus its very likely this guy is just trolling anyway
[09:11] <spawn`> most lapops have the mute key volume etc and wifi shutoff as FN + FKEY
[09:12] <spawn`> BUT MY ONBOARD WONT SHUT OFF
[09:12] <ntz> spawn`: ``despite debian makes your distro exist'' ??? what's wrong with you ?
[09:12] <spawn`> sry
[09:12] <Tm_T> ntz: drop it
[09:12] <Tm_T> spawn`: reproduce it in Ubuntu and we can continue
[09:12] <`hypermist`> hmm the command mkvirtualenv sd says mkvirtualenv isnt a command does that mean its changed over the years to a different command cause i certainly have the package installed
[09:12] <spawn`> hmmmm
[09:12] <Avihay_work> spawn`: try the package rfkill in the Ubuntu repositories
[09:13] <Avihay_work> or the equivalent in debien
[09:13] <spawn`> well i think it has to do with EUFI usb bios
[09:13] <spawn`> w/e it is
[09:13] <spawn`> hold on
[09:13] <Tm_T> spawn`: please
[09:13] <spawn`> this is actually an unanswered on google etc for a while
[09:14] <spawn`> so it affects all os's
[09:14] <`hypermist`> nvm i answered my own question
[09:14] <d0nfire> hey there is a cybersecurity channel around?
[09:14] <spawn`> ask
[09:14] <spawn`> i may provide a difference eval
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> !alis | d0nfire
[09:14] <spawn`> i think i will get ubuntu
[09:15] <spawn`> can it be installed from a single 16gb usb?
[09:15] <spawn`> full install
[09:16] <spawn`> i mean if you can answer one thing ill switch to debian
[09:16] <spawn`> errrr ubuntu
[09:16] <spawn`> why should i switch from backtrack/kali to ubuntu?
[09:16] <spawn`> :P
[09:16] <Ben64> spawn`: because you can't use this channel otherwise
[09:17] <spawn`> lol
[09:17] <spawn`> i can pretend i have ubuntu
[09:17] <Ben64> no
[09:17] <spawn`> wanna bet?
[09:17] <Ben64> yep
[09:18] <squirrel`> im a girl
[09:18] <Ben64> Tm_T: DJones: convinced yet that this guy is just trolling?
[09:18] <squirrel`>  get whatever i want
[09:18] <squirrel`> im not trolling
[09:18] <Tm_T> Ben64: it's not the discussion in this channel
[09:18] <squirrel`> i just dont know where else to ask
[09:18] <Ben64> the support for your own distro
[09:18] <squirrel`> and you are being mean.  if i was trolling i wouldnt be a victim would i now?
[09:18] <Ben64> Tm_T: what does that mean
[09:19] <Tm_T> Ben64: if you like to discuss with the ops, please join #ubuntu-ops thanks
[09:19] <squirrel`> i asked a couple questions
[09:19] <squirrel`> can the full install fit on a 16gb stick
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Tm_T: the guy  has been trolling here for like 30min
[09:20] <Tm_T> lotuspsychje: I'm well aware...
[09:20] <tga> greets
[09:20] <squirrel`> od will you shut up.  you wouldnt know a troll if it bit you in the ass
[09:20] <svetlana> hi tga
[09:20] <xeon123> I want to start keychain everytime I login to ubuntu. I have put this script ( http://paste.debian.net/167740/ ) in my .bashrc. But I think this is not the best. Is there a better way to do it? I am using GNOME>
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> ty
[09:20] <tga> I just installed the xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12 PPA and upgraded, but I still have the old packages
[09:21] <tga> what would cause a ppa to be ignored?
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | tga
[09:21] <tga> lotuspsychje: thanks, how does that help?
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> tga: did you sudo apt-get update?
[09:23] <loganlee> hello i need support. my ubuntu 14.04 machine hangs and keyboard and mouse freezes
[09:23] <tga> lotuspsychje: yes, updated and upgraded and as far as I can tell no ppa packages are getting installed
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> tga: where did you get this ppa from?
[09:24] <tga> lotuspsychje: http://ppa.launchpad.net/xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12
[09:24] <tga> it's the more or less official ppa for new xfce
[09:24] <loganlee> hello i need support. my ubuntu 14.04 machine hangs and keyboard and mouse freezes
[09:24] <kokut> Hello, how can i close the lid and use the USB keyboard of my laptop without it suspending?
[09:25] <tga> lotuspsychje: the general question is how do you tell what apt is installing and why/why not?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> tga: can you tell us what package your trying to find exactly?
[09:26] <tga> lotuspsychje: I am on 12.04 with xfce 4.10 and I am trying to upgrade to xfce 4.12
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !info xfce
[09:27] <tga> !info xfce4
[09:27] <tga> maybe I should take this up in #xubuntu
[09:27] <kokut> nvm found it
[09:27] <tga> in the mean time I'm purging the ppa and trying again
[09:27] <Manj-811-Xfce> why cant i install,says user name is wrong
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> !info xfce4 precise
[09:28] <tga> lotuspsychje: ah, my bad, make that trusty
[09:28] <tga> lotuspsychje: typo
[09:28] <tga> 14.04 here
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> !info xfce4 trusty
[09:28] <tga> should be 4.10
[09:28] <tga> yeah, here we go
[09:29] <tga> and the xubuntu guys have a ppa with 4.12
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> tga: ormally you should be able to install newer version after adding the ppa and sudo apt-get update
[09:30] <xeon123> I have a script that I want to launch when I make login. Where should I put this script? I have put in .bashrc, but I think this is not the best place. Here's the script (http://paste.debian.net/167740/)
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> tga: you could ask the #xubuntu guys if they know whats wrong
[09:32] <tga> lotuspsychje: yeah, I just did a purge and it looks like some 4.12 packages are getting installed
[09:32] <loganlee> hello my ubuntu 14.02 machine hangs... help
[09:32] <Blizzz> i went pre-release up to 15.04 and found slapd (instance for developing) not restarting. apparently, there is no systemd service therefore?
[09:32] <tga> lotuspsychje: thanks, I'll move this to #xu
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: when does it hangs exactly?
[09:32] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, few minutes after booting
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> Blizzz: join #ubuntu+1 for 15.04 please
[09:32] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, my keyboard and mouse freezes
[09:33] <Anna_> hello
[09:33] <Blizzz> roger
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: did you enable in bios?
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: maybe press F1 during ubuntu boot, to see where it hangs
[09:37] <Guest64802> How can I ask my firewall (ufw) what rules have been installed?
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | Guest64802
[09:37] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, ok
[09:37] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, what do i need to change at BIOS?
[09:37] <loganlee> ok brb
[09:37] <loganlee> reboot
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: doublecheck if usb mouse/keyboard is enabled
[09:38] <loganlee> changed my graphics driver
[09:38] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, it is enabled
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: from wich to wich?
[09:39] <phoenixsampras> Hello, im using ubuntu 14 LTS, ive pluged in my printer but the lp0 keeps being removed... why is that?
[09:40] <jpds> phoenixsampras: Check dmesg.
[09:43] <Guest64802> The command "sudo ufw status" gives my the output "Active".  Nothing else. Does this mean, every incoming traffic is blocked?
[09:45] <loganlee> try to switch my graphics driver to open sourced driver
[09:46] <loganlee> ubuntu 14.02 freezes after a few minutes
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: then switch back to the old driver that worked
[09:47] <mfaroukg> I have messed up with my keyboard shortcuts , I need to go back to default
[09:47] <wers> who -r
[09:47] <wers> ... ops
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | loganlee
[09:48] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, how to set nomodeset?
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: F1 at boot, and set to nomodeset
[09:48] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, how to do it permanently?
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: its not reccomended to add it perm, best is to get your right driver back
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: did you install 14.04 with internet enabled + updates enabled?
[09:51] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, yes
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: and your first driver did not freeze?
[09:51] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, im on open sourced one now
[09:52] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, proprietary drivers crashed
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: stay on driver that works
[09:53] <tenker> Moin Leute, ich versuche via /etc/gdm/Init/Default die Displaypositionen von 3 Monitoren direkt beim Start von GDM anzupassen aber beim Start von GDM sind die Display dennoch durcheinander: http://pastebin.com/x7BXK1Mh was mache ich da falsch?
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> !de | tenker
[09:53] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[09:53] <tenker> oh sorry i thought i put #ubuntu.de :P
[09:56] <Guest64802> I'm using ufw. I want to check, wether my default is deny. How can I check this?
[09:57] <kiaph> I have gtx55m nvidia graphics card,  that needs nividia_prime/bumblebeed and i want to get opengl 32 bit  library built after fresh 64bit install of xubuntu
[09:57] <kiaph> what is the best way to go about this?
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | kiaph
[09:57] <kiaph> with out hours of testing/playing with configuration philes
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> kiaph: bumblebee is outdated mate
[09:58] <kiaph> well it works with my current os 14.04
[09:58] <kiaph> but i kinda currupted it
[09:58] <kiaph> and it took hours to get it working
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> kiaph: you need that nvidia-prime package only
[09:58] <kiaph> i was hoping their would be a really striaght forward method
[09:59] <kiaph> oh nice
[09:59] <kiaph> and it will be able to choose my  g card when using 32bit libraires and playing video games? my intel card is really really chopy with vga :(
[10:00] <loganlee> switched back to proprietary NVIDIA driver and set grub to nomodeset
[10:00] <loganlee> hopefully no crash now... maybe i need to get box open and fix hardware wiring...
[10:01] <BluesKaj> loganlee, which proprietary driver?
[10:01] <loganlee> BluesKaj, NVIDIA
[10:01] <kiaph> is 15.02nb capatible with nivida prime
[10:01] <BluesKaj> loganlee, which version?
[10:01] <kiaph> and do i get nvidia current updates or nivida current?
[10:02] <loganlee> BluesKaj, one sec
[10:02] <rexrat> Hi. I bought a wireless adapter that uses Realtek rtl8187b chipset. I was previously using ethernet and it was all working fine but now this card is not working.
[10:03] <loganlee> NVIDIA binary driver version 331.113
[10:03] <rexrat> I mean, first time I start computer it works for a minute and then the connection seems like dropping.
[10:03] <BluesKaj> kiaph, nvidia current, if you're on an older ubuntu
[10:04] <loganlee> BluesKaj, NVIDIA binary driver version 331.113
[10:04] <BluesKaj> loganlee, that's available in the repos
[10:04] <rexrat> I looked up most of askubuntu and other forums and everywhere there seems to be different answers for rtl8187 driver. Can you help me with the issue?
[10:05] <rexrat> Also I tested it on my friend's laptop and it works fine. (she uses Windows)
[10:05] <loganlee> BluesKaj, im hoping it doesnt crash now... added nomodeset to grub parameters
[10:06] <rexrat> I tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/453110/rtl8187-wireless-card-drops-signal-within-seconds & this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254272
[10:06] <kiaph> blue ill be perfomring a clean install soon,  10-15 minutes, just wanted to figure out best route for nivida driver (gtx555m)
[10:06] <kiaph> itll be ubuntu 14.04.4 i think
[10:07] <kiaph> itll be ubuntu 14.04.2LTS i think
[10:07] <kiaph> rexrat, update your wifi router
[10:07] <rexrat> Does anybody has a permanent fix to this rtl8187b card being unstable in connecting? Anybody had similar issues?
[10:08] <rexrat> kiaph: How to update it?
[10:08] <nextbox> what is the difference between callback and streaming interface? (I am trying to understand how inotify works)
[10:08] <kiaph> it took me awhile to get that fixed, your card is probably just using N now
[10:08] <kiaph> well i went to 192.168.1.xx and just clicked my routers update button
[10:09] <kiaph> it was on a os 2011, now from 2013 lol, but it receives N waves alot better now
[10:09] <rexrat> kiaph: You mean 'n' as in b/g/n?
[10:09] <kiaph> if noyeap
[10:09] <kiaph> yes
[10:09] <kiaph> your router is being overloaded
[10:10] <kiaph> so intially
[10:10] <kiaph> fast fast
[10:10] <loganlee> hmmmm no crash yet
[10:10] <kiaph> then as it tries to send them back
[10:10] <loganlee> gggggggggggggggunit
[10:10] <kiaph> it gets slower and slower , if the memory / n support firmware is poor
[10:11] <kiaph> eventually you get horrible internet cause your card speaking only N
[10:11] <kiaph> and everyone using g around u.. is perfectly fine
[10:11] <kiaph> resetting your card proveis you amazing ineternet for like 10-15 seconds but them your communication with router gets slow again, like expoentially?
[10:12] <rexrat> kiaph: Maybe, I don't know.
[10:13] <kiaph> rexrat, mine got so bad ii had to use my hotkey for diable enable card-driver everytime i wanted to google lol
[10:13] <rexrat> kiaph: I am so frustrated by this card not working that I'm thinking of throwing it to garbage bin and buy a new one. :(
[10:13] <loganlee> hey guys... i just love ubuntu 14.02
[10:13] <loganlee> <3
[10:13] <loganlee> everything works perfect
[10:13] <kiaph> logan are u using prime
[10:13] <rexrat> loganlee: Glad to hear. Thanks!
[10:13] <loganlee> and if something goes wrong i can fix it
[10:13] <loganlee> on windows no way
[10:13] <loganlee> i can fix anything
[10:14] <loganlee> kiaph, no ubuntu 14.02 LTS
[10:14] <kiaph> lu didnt ened nvidia prime?
[10:14] <loganlee> no
[10:14] <kiaph> gah i need help setting up nvidia priime
[10:14] <kiaph> right after clean install
[10:15] <kiaph> aand rex, really you should just go uplug your router real fast, and plug it back in,  while spamming google search  / refresh and see if its much faster right as you connect to router, while keeping the card constant
[10:15] <Broli> i
[10:16] <kiaph> does anyone have nvidia prime experince
[10:16] <loganlee> hmmm
[10:16] <loganlee> i think nomodeset would have no difference after reading what it is...
[10:16] <loganlee> but anyway hope it works and i dont crash
[10:17] <BluesKaj> loganlee, and it's 14.04 LTS
[10:17] <loganlee> BluesKaj, yes
[10:18] <loganlee> srry 14.04
[10:18] <BluesKaj> lets not mislead new uswers :)
[10:20] <loganlee> no crash yet
[10:20] <loganlee> hmmmm
[10:20] <loganlee> no idea
[10:21] <phoenixsampras> jpds: i know that, in dmesg says its removed
[10:22] <loganlee> hmmmmm
[10:22] <loganlee> no crash...
[10:22] <loganlee> strange
[10:22] <loganlee> nomodeset shouldnt do anything
[10:24] <loganlee> hmmmm
[10:25] <loganlee> why no crash now?
[10:25] <gogeta> no crash is nice
[10:26] <loganlee> yeh
[10:32] <loganlee> hmmmmm
[10:33] <`hypermist`> hmm interesting issue with my postgresql haha
[10:35] <RtMF> can anyone recommend something i can set up that will do todo/issue tracking relatively painlessly? preferably that I can serve to web and android easily from a gnu/linux server already handling my everything?
[10:37] <loganlee> how to install mysql on ubuntu 14.04?
[10:38] <Ben64> sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[10:39] <loganlee> Ben64, what about mysql-client?
[10:39] <Ben64> yeah thats a package too
[10:39] <loganlee> so both?
[10:40] <Ben64> i would think one would install the other
[10:42] <bojan> How to login and change permission on xterm from a user computer??
[10:45] <loganlee> Ben64, yes it seems mysql-server will install the client ty
[10:48] <loganlee> bojan, chmod?
[10:51] <elev> hello
[10:55] <tenker> Hey guys, i try to set my display positions and resolutions in/before GDM but  putting the xrandr command in /etc/gdm/Init/Default wont work. I tried it like this: http://pastebin.com/x7BXK1Mh and like this: http://pastebin.com/DcAkiJf4 but neither works. Any other solutions?
[11:02] <mfaroukg> I have messed up with my keyboard shortcuts , I need to go back to default
[11:07] <loganlee> no crash yet
[11:07] <loganlee> strange...
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: you still on nomodeset or did you change driver?
[11:09] <loganlee> lotuspsychje, i changed back to proprietary driver and changed grub setting to nomodeset
[11:09] <huig> i just installed i3 on ubuntu and it seems like chaos..i am editing ~/.i3/config, to see the changes do i have to logout and login?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> loganlee: ok
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> huig: maybe the #i3 guys might know?
[11:24] <Samfreenode> Should I get the DT990 and increase the bass for music, or get the DT770 and reduce the bass for CS:GO?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> Samfreenode: this is an ubuntu support channel
[11:27] <Samfreenode> lotuspsychje: I play CS:GO on Ubuntu
[11:27] <Samfreenode> And listen to music on Ubuntu
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Samfreenode: and your ubuntu question is?
[11:28] <m1dnight_> I made a booboo. I executed "sudo apt-get remove 'python*'" and it removed a LOT
[11:28] <m1dnight_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10855611/
[11:28] <Samfreenode> lotuspsychje: Should I get the DT990 and increase the bass for music on Ubuntu, or get the DT770 and reduce the bass for CS:GO on Ubuntu?
[11:28] <efb36> uhh what in the world did I press... some kind of voice reader is actove and reading back everything I type and is displayed...
[11:28] <m1dnight_> could somebody explain what happened?
[11:29] <m1dnight_> does it remove everything that depends on python as well?
[11:29] <m1dnight_> I just wanted to remove all my pthon versions and install version 3 :<
[11:30] <Ben64> m1dnight_: yes, things that depend on python ... well, they depend on python so they wouldn't work, so they get removed
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> Samfreenode: sounds more like a hardware question to me
[11:30] <tnkhanh> Hi all! I have this program X that depends on Y but I installed Y from source (latest). How do I install X from apt-get but keep my Y from source?
[11:30] <m1dnight_> ah well, that was a bad move then
[11:30] <Ben64> m1dnight_: indeed
[11:30] <m1dnight_> well, lessons learned
[11:31] <Ben64> you don't need to remove python ever
[11:31] <Samfreenode> lotuspsychje: EQ and CS:GO and music is software
[11:31] <m1dnight_> well, i did "pip install --user bottle", and python (/usr/bin/python) could execute it fine, python3 however, could not
[11:31] <m1dnight_> so i thought i made a mess of things there
[11:32] <bazhang> Samfreenode, take the #debian questions there, dont crosspost here
[11:32] <mortezaaa> Hello. in Nautilus there are some bookmarks in the sidebar(Home, Desktop, Downloads, Music...), how to remove some of them?
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> mortezaaa: http://askubuntu.com/questions/79150/how-to-remove-bookmarks-from-the-nautilus-sidebar
[11:35] <mortezaaa> lotuspsychje:  i should have searched myself... thank you :)
[11:39] <tnkhanh> Hi all! I have this program X that depends on Y but I installed Y from source (latest). How do I install X from apt-get but keep my Y from source?
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | tnkhanh can this help?
[11:42] <tnkhanh> lotuspsychje: thanks, I'm checking it
[11:44] <tnkhanh> lotuspsychje: hm I have no idea what I'm reading
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> tnkhanh: never used it myself neither :p
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[11:44] <tnkhanh> lotuspsychje: the package I want to keep is from a tarball
[11:44] <EriC^> tnkhanh: if it does work with the new package, you could trick apt into installing it
[11:45] <EriC^> tnkhanh: which package are you trying to install?
[11:46] <tnkhanh> EriC^: I have this cmake 3.0.2 from source
[11:46] <EriC^> ok and the other package?
[11:46] <tnkhanh> EriC^: I want to keep it but kdevelop requires cmake
[11:46] <EriC^> ok which ubuntu version are you on?
[11:46] <tnkhanh> and cmake from apt-get is 2.8
[11:47] <tnkhanh> I'm on vivid vervet
[11:47] <tnkhanh> lol wrong channel
[11:47] <tnkhanh> EriC^: but I suppose version does not matter?
[11:48] <EriC^> well you need to get a list of kdevelop's dependencies
[11:48] <pengjiayou> hi, everybody
[11:48] <tnkhanh> EriC^: I can do that, what next?
[11:50] <EriC^> tnkhanh: make a dummy package called cmake version 2.8 and install it with dpkg
[11:52] <EriC^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=910717
[11:54] <EriC^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10855728/ this is the list of cmake 2.8's dependencies recursively, they might be missing a few i'm still working on that script that gets them
[11:54] <IsntFunny> Hello everyone! I could need some help on this one: https://superuser.com/questions/903754/home-folder-empty-after-schroot-remove It's kind of urgent. Maybe someone can help me?
[11:54] <ToAruShiroiNeko> hi, I am trying to understand why I cannot access my ubuntu server via root
[11:55] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu IsntFunny
[11:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I am trying to use vsftpd
[11:55] <ToAruShiroiNeko> my ubuntu verison is 14.04
[11:56] <EriC^> make sure you have them all installed something like for i in $(cat /path/to/packages); check if it's in dpkg -l; done
[11:56] <EriC^> tnkhanh: i've to go eat launch, bbl
[11:57] <tnkhanh> Eric^: Thanks, I will try
[11:57] <ToAruShiroiNeko> I get  pam_listfile(vsftpd:auth): Refused user root for service vsftpd
[11:57] <IsntFunny> bazhang: should be 11.04
[11:58] <bazhang> IsntFunny, thats eol, upgrade for support
[11:58] <bazhang> !eolupgrades  | IsntFunny
[11:58] <EriC^> tnkhanh: np
[11:58] <IsntFunny> bazhang: just checked it is: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-36-generic x86_64)
[11:59] <EriC^> tnkhanh: oh sorry, those are kdevelop's depencies
[12:00] <tnkhanh> EriC^: ok, I got it
[12:00] <EriC^> tnkhanh: these are cmake's http://paste.ubuntu.com/10855767/
[12:00] <tnkhanh> EriC^: what command u use tho
[12:00] <IsntFunny> bazhang: did you get my message?
[12:00] <EriC^> it's a script
[12:01] <tnkhanh> EriC^: wow, I see
[12:02] <EriC^> still has some bugs, it misses some packages, so it's not really working/reliable
[12:05] <IsntFunny> noone can help me? :/
[12:05] <trijntje> !patience
[12:05] <svetlana> IsntFunny: re-port the whole question including all details
[12:06] <IsntFunny> you mean rewrite it in here?
[12:07] <svetlana> IsntFunny: yes, that'd be nice to summarize instead of having users click
[12:07] <IsntFunny> I could need some help on this one: https://superuser.com/questions/903754/home-folder-empty-after-schroot-remove It's kind of urgent. Maybe someone can help me?
[12:08] <svetlana> o.o...
[12:08] <svetlana> ask your server provider whether they have a backup
[12:09] <svetlana> need more details about what 'refresh' means in this context
[12:09] <IsntFunny> they don't. i pretty much know that :(
[12:09] <svetlana> one guy today emailed me with 'happiness is a tested backup' in signature
[12:10] <svetlana> but yes, what does a refresh involve
[12:11] <svetlana> when a server is 'virtual' i fear that an undelete operation is harder. i would probably ask them whether they'd like to try
[12:11] <IsntFunny> svetlana: running apt-get upgrade, deleting files in /var/www, reinstalled munin and then a backup
[12:11] <svetlana> they didn't format the hard drive which the data was on after all
[12:11] <svetlana> ok this all is before the 'refresh'
[12:11] <svetlana> how did you 'refresh' it
[12:11] <IsntFunny> that's what i called the refresh
[12:12] <svetlana> oh ok so the only thing you really did was remove schroot package
[12:13] <IsntFunny> and apt-get upgrade and a reboot
[12:13] <svetlana> err none of these things look relevant to loosing /home me
[12:13] <svetlana> i would suggest to check dmesg for more info
[12:13] <IsntFunny> i don't udnerstand it either
[12:13] <IsntFunny> but the fstab looks a lot smaller now
[12:14] <svetlana> dmesg is one thing
[12:14] <svetlana> '/var/log/kern.log' is probably another
[12:14] <IsntFunny> the home files were in the lib/schroot/mount/trusty_i386-e046ecd9-c2fb-40f2-a060-49b43ca5ae18/home folder
[12:14] <svetlana> it should have whined somewhere about why it cant mount it properly
[12:14] <svetlana> ooh
[12:14] <svetlana> how did you remove schroot though
[12:15] <IsntFunny> apt-get remove
[12:15] <svetlana> i don't follow why home files weren't in /home
[12:15] <svetlana> partly because i don't really know what schroot was doing there
[12:16] <svetlana> i would suggest to rewrite that question at superuser. mention what ubuntu version; mention when exactly you rebooted; remove the reference to 'refresh' because it's confusing
[12:16] <IsntFunny> so what can i do now? :(
[12:17] <svetlana> i don't know yet
[12:17] <IsntFunny> okay
[12:17] <svetlana> answering would require me to go into schroot documentation and learning it thoroughly
[12:17] <IsntFunny> is everything i write in console in some log?
[12:17] <IsntFunny> even after reboot?
[12:18] <svetlana> ls /var/lib/schroot/mount/trusty_i386-e046ecd9-c2fb-40f2-a060-49b43ca5ae18/
[12:18] <svetlana> what does that say
[12:18] <svetlana> yes, check 'history' command output for history of what you wrote in the terminal
[12:19] <EriC^> tnkhanh: i'm back, any luck?
[12:19] <EriC^> tnkhanh: creating the deb is super easy, then sudo dpkg -i <deb> to install and it should complain about the stuff that are missing
[12:19] <IsntFunny> can i get the result from a command too, svetlana ?
[12:19] <IsntFunny> i ahve the id for the command i want
[12:19] <svetlana> no
[12:19] <IsntFunny> hmm
[12:20] <svetlana> output of a command is not saved to file, with few exceptions
[12:20] <svetlana> apt history is in /var/log/apt/history.log for example
[12:20] <IsntFunny> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10855841/
[12:20] <IsntFunny> does that help?
[12:21] <svetlana> try running `ls /var/lib/schroot/mount/trusty_i386-e046ecd9-c2fb-40f2-a060-49b43ca5ae18/`
[12:21] <EriC^> IsntFunny: your home dir is empty after using apt?
[12:21] <EriC^> /home/<user> ?
[12:21] <svetlana> all we know is that your home dir was in that dir's 'home' subdiretory
[12:21] <tnkhanh> EriC^: wow its good now
[12:21] <IsntFunny> any folder inside /home is gone, EriC^
[12:21] <EriC^> oh
[12:21] <tnkhanh> thanks
[12:21] <svetlana> EriC^: well it was in /home only because it was in that long dir/home
[12:22] <EriC^> tnkhanh: great, no problem
[12:22] <svetlana> EriC^: and that long dir belogns to schroot, and he removed schroot package before making the backup
[12:22] <IsntFunny> svetlana: i dont know if all from lib/home was in /home or the opposite, lib/home just a link to /home :/
[12:22] <EriC^> svetlana: what long dir? scrollback is getting a bit messy (im lazy :P)
[12:23] <svetlana> EriC^: this long dir /var/lib/schroot/mount/trusty_i386-e046ecd9-c2fb-40f2-a060-49b43ca5ae18/home
[12:23] <IsntFunny> also, the lib/schroot/mount thing was not remvoed by uninstallling. chekced that
[12:23] <svetlana> EriC^: he has /dev at  /var/lib/schroot/mount/trusty_i386-e046ecd9-c2fb-40f2-a060-49b43ca5ae18/dev now
[12:23] <EriC^> svetlana: oh ok, thanks
[12:23] <svetlana> IsntFunny: i am yet to see `ls' output for that dir
[12:24] <IsntFunny> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10855852/
[12:24] <IsntFunny> this one, svetlana ?
[12:24] <svetlana> ya
[12:24] <svetlana> ls /var/lib/schroot/mount/trusty_i386-e046ecd9-c2fb-40f2-a060-49b43ca5ae18/home
[12:24] <svetlana> what does that say
[12:25] <EriC^> IsntFunny: i think you need to install testdisk
[12:25] <guest-nfDzwr> him I need Help, how can I switch to azerty keyboard?
[12:25] <IsntFunny> nothign
[12:25] <IsntFunny> nothing comes back, svetlana
[12:25] <svetlana> hmm
[12:26] <EriC^> svetlana: testdisk time?
[12:26] <svetlana> yea
[12:26] <IsntFunny> what is testdisk?
[12:26] <svetlana> apt-cache show testdisk
[12:26] <EriC^> it can recovery deleted files, but it's not too good with ext usually
[12:27] <IsntFunny> shoudl i paste the output of testdisk?
[12:27] <EriC^> IsntFunny: type sudo apt-get install testdisk
[12:27] <EriC^> then sudo testdisk
[12:27] <IsntFunny> ok
[12:28] <IsntFunny> No harddisk found
[12:29] <IsntFunny> Semms like it can't find any harddisk
[12:31] <EriC^> i think it's cause of something i dont know about
[12:32] <EriC^> lol..
[12:32] <IsntFunny> what do you need to know then? :P
[12:32] <efb36> How often are updates packaged in new LTS isos? (aka when is 14.04.3 comming out)
[12:34] <EriC^> IsntFunny: is this your own box or a container type thing?
[12:34] <svetlana> IsntFunny, testdisk /list
[12:34] <svetlana> vps
[12:42] <IsntFunny> EriC^: shoudl eb a container thingy
[12:42] <genkgo> We have a problem with creating backups in a Ubuntu VPS that is in a HyperV environment. More specific: only this one VPS. Others (also Ubuntu, but also CentOS) are doping fine. The OS switches to a read-only filesystem. What could be cause this switch? I read multiple possibilities while Googling, but is there a way that I can see what happens. Syslog just quits at the time of backup.
[12:43] <EriC^> IsntFunny: i don't know how you could recover the files, i think testdisk needs access to the disk itself and you probably need permission from the hosting company
[12:44] <EriC^> IsntFunny: i'm not sure, stick around maybe someone knows
[12:44] <EriC^> IsntFunny: can you type df -h and paste it?
[12:45] <IsntFunny> EriC^: it's in here: https://superuser.com/questions/903754/home-folder-empty-after-schroot-remove
[12:45] <EriC^> ok
[12:48] <EriC^> IsntFunny: try sudo testdisk /dev/vda
[12:49] <IsntFunny> I have no idea what i shoudl do now.. I don't think the provider can help me
[12:49] <Promille> Hey guys. I recently installed the daily build of ubuntu. My issue is that the keyboard is acting strangely. If i e.g. use a certain button, the volume turns down, even though its a normal character, and im not using the function button. Any suggestions. Lenovo thinkad
[12:49] <IsntFunny> it found something, EriC^
[12:49] <EriC^> IsntFunny: cool, what does it say?
[12:50] <EriC^> !ubuntu+1 | Promille
[12:50] <Promille> ok ty
[12:50] <IsntFunny> it asks me for partition details and stuff.. i selected Intel and Analyse for parition > deep search
[12:51] <EriC^> ok, great, did it find any partitions?
[12:51] <EriC^> you can press p over the partition the list the files
[12:51] <IsntFunny> it's still searching o.O
[12:51] <IsntFunny> only 02%
[12:52] <EriC^> IsntFunny: did it list anything yet?
[12:52] <gry> I have doubts in undelete tool sense on virtual stuff
[12:52] <IsntFunny> EriC^: : http://paste.ubuntu.com/10855953/
[12:52] <gry> it has no real hardware access
[12:53] <richi_> Are there any plans to add BitCoin to the download donation page? I wanted to make a donation every time I download. But since a few years I do donations exclusively in BitCoin.
[12:53] <EriC^> gry: me too, but it doesn't really read the hardware does it, i mean it searches the logical stuff
[12:53] <EriC^> IsntFunny: press q
[12:53] <gry> OK
[12:53] <EriC^> then press p over the 2nd partition that says linux and is big
[12:54] <IsntFunny> ok i did
[12:54] <IsntFunny> what now
[12:54] <EriC^> does it list any files?
[12:54] <gry> richi_, ask canonical, I do not think people here have discretion to decide
[12:54] <IsntFunny> yes it does
[12:55] <IsntFunny> it does list my home dir
[12:55] <EriC^> IsntFunny: ok use the right and left arrows to go to where the home dir was
[12:55] <IsntFunny> but all folders are red
[12:55] <EriC^> cause they're deleted
[12:55] <IsntFunny> >.>
[12:55] <EriC^> is the size there though?
[12:55] <richi_> gry: Where should I ask? email, web form, IRC ...?
[12:55] <gry> email canonical directly
[12:55] <IsntFunny> Directory /home/hlds  No file found, filesystem may be damaged.
[12:56] <EriC^> IsntFunny: go back a dir, and press C or c over the home dir to recover the dir and the files
[12:56] <IsntFunny> seems like it's dead, EriC^
[12:56] <EriC^> IsntFunny: if it's red it doesn't matter, as long as the size is still not 0 i think you're good
[12:57] <joshua> hello?
[12:57] <IsntFunny> how do i restore, EriC^ ?
[12:57] <gry> richi_ some email ending in @canonical.com you try to look at their homepage
[12:57] <EriC^> IsntFunny: press c over the dir, then select where you want to restore to and press C
[12:57] <gry> hi Joshua
[12:57] <EriC^> it's case sensitive
[12:58] <IsntFunny> ah..
[12:58] <Guest5142> I'm joshua. apparently I didnt Identify myself in time to keep my name lol.
[12:58] <gry> :)
[12:58] <IsntFunny> nope
[12:58] <IsntFunny> empty
[12:58] <Guest5142> Does anyone have experiance with Mint?
[12:58] <Guest5142> experience *
[12:59] <IsntFunny> also, size is 0
[12:59] <BluesKaj> !mint |Guest5142
[12:59] <EriC^> IsntFunny: all the red files are 0 in size?
[12:59] <Guest5142> i see. ok then
[12:59] <IsntFunny> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10855985/
[12:59] <gry> yes Joshua but we pulled hair and murdered a kitten once trying to troubleshoot a very subtle bug, so mint is not supported here
[13:00] <gry> go tho
[13:00] <EriC^> IsntFunny: ok, some aren't 0
[13:00] <EriC^> it should recover them i think
[13:00] <Guest5142> I was actually looking to see if there was just a way to get the software center on mint
[13:01] <gry> should be opensource, try to compile by hand
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Guest5142 look in the kicker
[13:02] <IsntFunny> EriC^: those are no important folders =(
[13:02] <gry> ask them too, this is probably a FAQ
[13:02] <Guest5142> look in the kicker?
[13:02] <EriC^> IsntFunny: which dir is important?
[13:02] <mike7508> ok situation... i have a shit ton of music on a box running ubuntu server 14.o4... i want to be able to listen to and control my music from work web browser based... what are the best options to run on the ubuntu box
[13:02] <mike7508> and go
[13:03] <EriC^> IsntFunny: browse to the dir and check the files size
[13:03] <IsntFunny> the important ones are empty
[13:03] <mitchdavis44> Hi everyone, I'm looking for a little bit of guidance in regards to MTP support and a Nexus 5 on Ubuntu 14.04.  I've searched all over and have tried multiple suggestions such as trying gmtp, creating the android dev rules, and a few others.  Does anyone have a sure fire way to be able to connect my nexus 5 as a MTP device?
[13:03] <EriC^> IsntFunny: ok, there's photorec
[13:04] <gry> mike7508 if work comp is Linux, then ssh with x forward
[13:04] <pbx> mike7508, so you want to have a private streaming setup?
[13:04] <EriC^> it's another tool like testdisk which comes in the package
[13:04] <EriC^> IsntFunny: try sudo photorec /dev/vda
[13:04] <mike7508> yes pbx exactly, but i have no control over the computers or networking at work
[13:05] <gry> mitchdavis44 is it #ubuntu-touch question?
[13:05] <mike7508> that's why i figured something that i woudl be able to control from a webbrowser woudl be best
[13:05] <EriC^> IsntFunny: it searches for files that have a certain header, it has a list of files you can choose to recover, or you can give it a sample header and have it search for those files
[13:05] <mitchdavis44> gry - no it is not.  It's a stock nexus 5.
[13:06] <IsntFunny> EriC^: ok, photorec is running
[13:07] <gry> mitchdavis I was told Ubuntu touch runs on nexus devices, and android stuff also suggests it is that
[13:07] <IsntFunny> 2000 iles so far
[13:07] <EriC^> what did you tell it to recover IsntFunny ?
[13:08] <IsntFunny> the home dir i hope
[13:08] <mitchdavis44> gry I'm not sure what you're meaning...Ubuntu touch does run on nexus' devices but I'm just trying to connect my nexus 5 as a mtp device not do anything with ubuntu touch.
[13:08] <gry> ok
[13:09] <IsntFunny> EriC^: it is just searching for files right now
[13:09] <EriC^> IsntFunny: did you select the file header?
[13:09] <EriC^> IsntFunny: it's under file opt next to search
[13:10] <IsntFunny> EriC^: but i need all files, not some specific?
[13:10] <EriC^> IsntFunny: i dont think you can, not sure
[13:10] <EriC^> IsntFunny: you can recover all txt files if you want
[13:10] <IsntFunny> how did it delete those files?!
[13:10] <pbx> mike7508, apologies for answering a question you didn't ask, but have you looked at streaming from e.g. google play or amazon music?
[13:11] <DJones> mitchdavis44: For connecting android devices, I normally install airdroid on the android device and then just connect using a web browser on the computer, I'v enever needed to physically connect the two
[13:12] <mike7508> pbx i had not... never tried their services... i just didn't know if something like shoutcast wouldn't be better suited for this
[13:12] <splitwire> DJones: I also use AirDroid, great program
[13:13] <mitchdavis44> DJones I guess I'll have to give that a shot, I'm pretty much out of options. Thanks for the suggestion.
[13:13] <SomeT> so I have this question: What are the main systems of a Linux kernel?
[13:13] <SomeT> anyone know what it means by systems?
[13:14] <SomeT> thinking it means input / output possibly?
[13:14] <SomeT> so confused by its definition within the question
[13:15] <EriC^> SomeT: is that hw?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> SomeT, do you have an ubuntu related question ..linux kerenel questions are better suited for ##linux chat
[13:16] <BluesKaj> SomeT, or ##linux even
[13:18] <SomeT> ok thanks
[13:18] <SomeT> sorry
[13:18] <SomeT> i am on ubuntu is why i was here
[13:54] <Anupkumar> hi, I am working on a bug related to udisks, can anyone tell me is it a right place to ask questions related to bugs on udisks here?
[13:56] <kk_> hi
[13:57] <kk_> 改不了名字？
[13:57] <OerHeks> Anupkumar, what bug do you encounter? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks/+bugs
[13:57] <maixueguonian> 哦，名字不支持中文
[13:57] <OerHeks> maixueguonian, hi, english only please
[13:57] <OerHeks> !cn
[13:58] <Anupkumar> OerHeks: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64458
[13:58] <Anupkumar> OerHeks: that is the bug I'm working on currently
[13:58] <maixueguonian> OK
[13:59] <Anupkumar> OerHeks: I was able to reproduce the bug, but not able to locate the exact location of the code where I was getting this error
[14:01] <OerHeks> Anupkumar,  cannot finds simular on launchpad, that bug is happening on KDE?
[14:01] <OerHeks> and old.
[14:02] <Anupkumar> OerHeks: no, this bug is not related to KDE because in the comment for the bug, it is clearly given that this bug has to be reported upstream
[14:05] <Anupkumar> OerHeks: how can we check for this error in the udisks source code?
[14:05] <kdEFanboy> Hello! Do you know how to pin google desktop apps into the taskbar? All i get with "Show a launcher when it's closed" is that the given app is in the same launcher as my google chrome launcher
[14:05] <OerHeks> On what ubuntu version Anupkumar ?
[14:06] <Anupkumar> OerHeks: I'm currently using ubuntu 14.04
[14:07] <BluesKaj> !crosspost | kdEFanboy
[14:07] <kdEFanboy> upps sorry!
[14:07] <kdEFanboy> BluesKaj: can i know which those channels are?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> youshouls know, kdEFanboy, you posted them..best to post in just one
[14:10] <kdEFanboy> BluesKaj: I mean, i asked it here as an ubuntu user and in kubuntu as a kde user... I though it made sense, sorry again.
[14:11] <Mohamed> Bonjour
[14:11] <Mohamed> Est ce que quelqu'un a pu installer Zend Guard Loader v3.3 sur ubuntu 12.04
[14:11] <OerHeks> Anupkumar, hard to say how to check this in source or debugger.  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/udisksctl.1.html
[14:11] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/
[14:12] <OerHeks> i see that trusty uses a newer version from git
[14:12] <DJones> !fr | Mohamed
[14:12] <OerHeks> err utopic *
[14:12] <Mohamed> tanks you
[14:16] <isarl> Hello everyone. Just installed 14.04 and boggled by all the different nvidia graphics options, and why Additonal Drivers isn't auto-detecting my NVidia card...
[14:16] <isarl> ...do I really need to add a PPA to out-of-the-box ubuntu before apt-get will let me install binary drivers?
[14:17] <k1l> isarl: what video card is it?
[14:17] <isarl> 750 Ti
[14:17] <k1l> isarl: and what kernel are you on? "uname -a"?
[14:18] <isarl> 3.16.0-30-generic
[14:18] <isarl> sorry, GeForce GTX 750 Ti
[14:19] <k1l> do you know since which driver number its supported from nvidia blob?
[14:19] <isarl> I mean I can use Nvidia's webpage to download 346.59 drivers and just run the shell script
[14:19] <isarl> but I figured there might be a way to do it through aptitude
[14:19] <isarl> or whatever, it's been a few releases since I've used ubuntu (pre-unity)
[14:20] <isarl> I tried doing apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-346 to no avail
[14:20] <k1l> there is no 346 in the ubuntu repo for 14.04
[14:20] <k1l> again: what video driver version do you need at least?
[14:21] <isarl> nvidia's website recommends 346.59 for my GPU
[14:21] <isarl> ironically I remember this being EASIER last time I installed an ubuntu system using nvidia, but maybe I'm just misremembering
[14:22] <k1l> they always recommend the latest. the question is since when its supported. ubuntu 14.04 ships 331
[14:22] <isarl> so you're saying if I s/346/331 on my apt-get command it should work?
[14:22] <k1l> sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[14:23] <isarl> ah, now that's actually doing something
[14:23] <k1l> but i dont know if it works with your video card.
[14:23] <isarl> so what you're telling me is that 331 is the latest in the official repos, and if I want newer, then I have to either find a 3rd-party PPA, or download them directly from NVidia's website?
[14:24] <k1l> isarl: yes.
[14:24] <isarl> k1l: cheers.
[14:25] <k1l> isarl: the enablement stack only updates kernels and kernel video drivers and xserver. not binary blobs
[14:25] <F-3000> Hi! I'm about to install Ubuntu MATE on Acer Aspire ES1-311. I've got myself this far, where I've defined used partitions, and installer is asking for device for boot loader installation. What I'm supposed to do here? I've already read about UEFI and "dual boot - Installing Ubuntu on a pre-installed Windows 8 system", but neither of those help in this situation.
[14:26] <isarl> k1l: by that you mean.. I will need to reinstall my graphics drivers each time there's a kernel update..?
[14:26] <k1l> isarl: if you go for nvidia website solution yes
[14:26] <isarl> if I go for a 3rd-party PPA?
[14:27] <k1l> then it will run dksm on a kernel update (if the ppa is setup right. which like the xorg edgers is)
[14:28] <isarl> k1l: cheers. thanks for all your help.
[14:28] <isarl> k1l: also I think *dkms but I got your meaning. thanks again.
[14:29] <k1l> erm, yes. dkms :)
[14:30] <F-3000> Anyone able to assist?
[14:33] <DJones> F-3000: Probably best if you ask your question so people know what the issue is before they say whether they can help
[14:33] <F-3000> DJones: I did so.
[14:34] <daftykins> F-3000: so you're installing alongside Windows 8?
[14:34] <DJones> F-3000: Ah yeah, sorry, I hadn't seen it that far back
[14:36] <F-3000> daftykins: Yes, dual-booting. But actual option "install along windows" offers usb-stick as only option as destination.
[14:37] <F-3000> daftykins: As I'm using usb-multiboot. Not first time I face similar situation.
[14:37] <daftykins> F-3000: did you boot the install media in EFI mode?
[14:38] <F-3000> daftykins: Yes. I checked it from /sys/firmware/efi path in live system.
[14:38] <k1l> !away > andrex
[14:39] <ioria> F-3000 64bit ?
[14:39] <F-3000> daftykins: Also, I had to create uefi-boot ability for the multiboot to be able to boot in first place. Yes, 64.
[14:40] <daftykins> 'for the multiboot' ? not really following you there
[14:41] <F-3000> daftykins: I have multiple ISOs on a usb-stick, launched thru grub.
[14:41] <daftykins> ok so YUMI or something
[14:42] <F-3000> daftykins: I had to add uefi-boot to it to be able to boot from it.
[14:43] <daftykins> F-3000: well it's a bit of a warning sign for an installer not to see 8, but you could try installing anyway and have GRUB go onto the disk /dev/sda as that shouldn't do any harm
[14:43] <F-3000> daftykins: Actually, I've created it "manually", but I think that the result is quite same.
[14:43] <F-3000> daftykins: Installer does see 8, I believe.
[14:43] <daftykins> F-3000: did you resize the Windows volume from inside Windows prior to this attempt to install?
[14:45] <F-3000> daftykins: I resized it with Gparted (from SystemRescueCD 4.5.2), yet Windows works fine, I tested it,.
[14:45] <ioria> F-3000 secure boot ?
[14:45] <daftykins> that was an unnecessary approach 0o
[14:45] <F-3000> ioria: Had to turn it off.
[14:45] <daftykins> and did you shutdown 8 properly?
[14:46] <F-3000> daftykins: Thru shutdown option.
[14:47] <EriC^> F-3000: did yuo turn fastboot off?
[14:47] <EriC^> *you
[14:48] <F-3000> EriC^: Nope.
[14:48] <daftykins> you either do that, or shutdown properly (not just selecting shutdown) in order to stop 8 doing its' funky hybrid hibernate thing
[14:52] <EriC^> F-3000: yeah you have to turn fastboot off, or reboot windows instead of shutting down
[14:52] <hadrial> malammmmmmmmmmmm
[14:53] <F-3000> EriC^, daftykins: looks like there's no option in uefi to turn off fastboot.
[14:54] <EriC^> you have to turn it off from settings > power advanced or something
[14:54] <magita> anyone knows what could i verify to make ubuntu mate X64 because on shutdown currently it just sits there  this machine its an Acer Aspire 5050 Amd turion 64 with 1 gig ddr2 memory
[14:54] <EriC^> in windows control panel
[14:54] <hadrial> apakah ada virus di linuxxx
[14:55] <F-3000> EriC^: I'll try that.
[14:56] <daftykins> magita: running 64-bit on a machine with 1GB RAM is a waste
[14:56] <EriC^> F-3000: it's really quite tricky, i'd search online for a picture of it
[14:56] <magita> daftykins, so... you think thats the problem for the  shutdown issue?
[14:56] <EriC^> it's under something like "click here for options that you will never use nor care about"
[14:57] <EriC^> lol then it pops up at the bottom
[14:57] <F-3000> EriC^: classic Windows then.
[14:59] <daftykins> magita: are you asking how to check if it's a 64-bit installation? "uname -a"
[14:59] <magita> daftykins, no, currently on shutdown it sits there
[15:00] <EriC^> magita: press esc and check what it's waiting for
[15:00] <maddawg2> what happens if you accidentally compile and install a program twice in ubuntu
[15:01] <EriC^> maddawg2: nothing, the files will be overwritten most likely and you'll lose any configuration files
[15:01] <SchrodingersScat> maddawg2: I would expect the 2nd to overwrite the first?
[15:01] <maddawg2> ok good
[15:02] <maddawg2> just making sure
[15:02] <maddawg2> lol
[15:02] <maddawg2>  cuz i accidentally did exactly that me things
[15:02] <maddawg2> thinks*
[15:02] <elux> hello.. i have linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic and linux-image-3.13.0-49-generic installed, but the older kernel version is currently in use.. how do i make it use the latest?
[15:02] <k1l> elux: run "sudo update-grub"
[15:03] <elux> thx
[15:03] <EriC^> elux: you have to reboot to use it, you know..
[15:04] <k1l> well yes. i think that was obivous :)
[15:07] <elux> EriC^: yea i used it, rebooted and still on the old kernel
[15:07] <EriC^> are you sure it installed correctly?
[15:07] <gioans> hello
[15:08] <gioans> i am a new ubuntu
[15:08] <denos> so i just upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10 and now i get a virtualbox fail error and then blank screen at boot
[15:08] <Zerkalerka> gioans, ubuntu new you
[15:08] <gioans> yeah
[15:09] <denos> also recovery mode won't accept my user/pass and neither will ecryptfs-recover-private from a liveusb
[15:09] <daftykins> gioans: this place is for support questions, do you have one?
[15:09] <gioans> yes i have
[15:09] <denos> am i out of luck or does anyone have any tips, thanks
[15:09] <fungifungible> hello all, I am sporadically getting shades like this: http://picpaste.com/92b3e6d229fd0efa0f217bf0d7624716.png  I dont remember it having happened outside of the browser. the shade is often black or this color, and the size is different, yet always in quadratic shapes, sometimes 2-3 at a time, on different spots of the page.
[15:10] <Guest63165> Add
[15:11] <gioans> every time i upgrade my ubuntu, some things not upgrade, what i to do ?
[15:11] <daftykins> gioans: what things?
[15:11] <ioria> denos You might have recently removed older kernel
[15:11] <k1l> !paste | gioans please show there the output
[15:12] <ioria> denos your specs ?
[15:13] <magita> ok guys here its what the shutdown problem says http://pastebin.com/W6e1Fr4w
[15:14] <denos> ioria: i5-5200U amd64, intel hd 5500, 8gb
[15:15] <denos> ioria: only kernels removed were at direction of distribution upgrade
[15:15] <marc_> Hey, Just a quick questions (somewhat specific though). I've got an old Voip phone that apparently is no longer supported. I was wondering if Linux offered a Voip service that would allow me to make and receive phone calls using a standard telephone number?
[15:15] <gioans> i don't things, because terminal not replay, and in that i see "remove "x" not upgrade"- "x" is a number!
[15:15] <test__> hello
[15:16] <ioria> denos you have win 8 with ubuntu in virtualbox ?
[15:16] <faust> marc_: do you mean a voip client or what?
[15:16] <xangua> gioans: if you have a terminal output error, the actuall error messsage would be more helpful
[15:17] <k1l> gioans: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal and put the output into the paste
[15:17] <daftykins> gioans: also, what language do you speak? there might be a better place for you to ask
[15:17] <marc_> faust: Yea. Like Skype allows you to have a telephone number that people can call you on. However it is an expensive service and I know skype doesn't work very well with linux
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> !voip | faust
[15:17] <magita> EriC^, daftykins,  what you had asked http://pastebin.com/W6e1Fr4w
[15:17] <gioans> i am Vietnamese, and i speak Vietnamese
[15:18] <SchrodingersScat> !info asterisk | marc_
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> faust: check software centre, there are few nice phone apps in there
[15:18] <denos> ioria: grub dual-boot win8/ubuntu, w/ virtualbox also installed in ubuntu to run win8
[15:18] <faust> lotuspsychje: it is marc_ that is asking, not me
[15:18] <pbx> !vn | gioans
[15:18] <ruslan_osmanov> Hi, I guess I've broken my xubuntu system after trying to install skype (adding i386 arch on amd64) :/ After dpkg --add-architecture i386 and adding Canonical Partner sources to the sources list, apt kept suggesting apt-get install -f (which implied purging almost everything). Then I tried to install something via GUI. The software center suggested "to fix broken packages" (which implied the
[15:18] <ruslan_osmanov> apt-get install -f with all awful consequences!) . So the packages are fixed now... by *removal*. The laptop is still running. Please help me to get rid of i386 arch and to restore the packages
[15:19] <gioans> cảm ơn nhé
[15:20] <ioria> denos you got a dual boot win8/ubu  and inside ubu , vbox with win8 ... and the pc does not boot . correct ?
[15:20] <faust> marc_: as lotuspsychje there are many voip client on linux, but if you want to receive call on a real phone number you will need to subscribe to some voip service. Than you can use ekiga or anything else in ubuntu with your new account, but the account registration and the service itself has not anything to do with ubuntu or linux in general
[15:20] <marc_> thanks faust
[15:21] <F-3000> EriC^: You were right, it required googling.
[15:21] <EriC^> magita: looks like some process won't quit and it's waiting for it
[15:21] <EriC^> F-3000: yup
[15:21] <magita> Eric__, so its a fresh install what to do change distro ? ^^
[15:21] <denos> ioria: win8 will boot but ubuntu shows error and then perpetual blank screen
[15:22] <ioria> denos well, try at first nomodeset in grub
[15:22] <bodo_> guys is it enough to create only 3 part for installing ubuntu? /, /home and swap or i need /boot aswell?
[15:22] <EriC^> bodo_: that's fine
[15:24] <bodo_> what is fine eric i need or not /boot?
[15:25] <daftykins> no /boot
[15:25] <k1l> bodo_: if you dont use lvm or raid or encryption you dont need a seperate /boot
[15:25] <bodo_> thx
[15:25] <k1l> bodo_: meaning: for mainstream users its ok without /boot.
[15:25] <gioans> server Vietnam-vn, people sleps, no one get up!
[15:27] <F-3000> EriC^, daftykins: Still, "Install Ubumtu alongside Windows Boot Maganer" gives usb-stick (sdb) as only option for destination, ignoring HD (sda) completely. Have to choose "Something else".
[15:28] <lotuspsychje_> gioans: we can only help you in english mate
[15:28] <daftykins> F-3000: weird. "sudo parted -l | pastebinit2 might be useful
[15:28] <gioans> i understand EngLish not very well
[15:32] <chotaz`w> anything like superputty for ubuntu?
[15:32] <somsip> chotaz`w: what is 'superputty'?
[15:32] <EriC^> F-3000: is a msdos converted disk?
[15:32] <EriC^> *is it
[15:32] <daftykins> F-3000: oops that was meant to be "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[15:33] <F-3000> daftykins: MATE doesn't have pastebinit, but I can do manually.
[15:33] <daftykins> F-3000: yes you install it.
[15:34] <F-3000> EriC^: Nope. Although, it's nothing new to me that installer's automatic options ignore sda.
[15:35] <F-3000> daftykins: Install in live?
[15:36] <F-3000> daftykins, EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10856663/
[15:38] <denos> ioria: thanks will reboot and try that now
[15:38] <chotaz`w> somsip, it's putty with tabs.
[15:38] <EriC^> F-3000: wow..
[15:38] <daftykins> F-3000: wow that is a lot of partitions
[15:39] <somsip> chotaz`w: use something like screen or tmux, and ssh
[15:39] <F-3000> EriC^, daftykins: I added 5, obviously.
[15:42] <F-3000> EriC^, daftykins: So, there's ~1MB space at the front of the disc, so installer puking MBR shouldn't break anything. But I doubt that's how I'm going to get this thing working right away.
[15:42] <Guest41598> test
[15:43] <SchrodingersScat> Guest41598: received
[15:43] <F-3000> EriC^, daftykins: Should I create one more partition, where I install Ubuntu's bootloader, which I point to from UEFI?
[15:44] <dyrz> hello guys. how can i implement derivative of a given equation in scheme ?
[15:44] <Guest41598> SchrodingersScat: sweet!
[15:45] <fungifungible> hello all, I am sporadically getting shades like this: http://picpaste.com/92b3e6d229fd0efa0f217bf0d7624716.png  I dont remember it having happened outside of the browser. the shade is often black or this color, and the size is different, yet always in quadratic shapes, sometimes 2-3 at a time, on different spots of the page.
[15:45] <fungifungible> also the text lines are sometimes gone: http://picpaste.com/cf67e1cc0d267c61570c64e3160f597a.png it comes back when refreshed
[15:45] <daftykins> F-3000: no it should know to make use of the EFI boot partition. i think there's something up with the ISO image you're using, or your boot method
[15:46] <amortimer> I’m trying to access another user’s environmental variable, set in their .bashrc. When evern I run `sudo su - user -c  ‘. ~/.bashrc && echo $VAR’` It returns empty. But when I su in as the user and echo the $VAR it works. What am I doing wrong?
[15:46] <daftykins> fungifungible: 404 on the first image
[15:46] <chotaz`w> somsip, I'm looking for a GUI that lets me setup and use multiple tunnels at same time, I dont wanna bother writting the connection info each and everytime.
[15:46] <fungifungible> oh sorry daftykins, this is the correct link: http://picpaste.com/e79671e283d26a8fb16bcc2a0c47836e.png
[15:47] <ioria> F-3000  have you tried  Legacy boot, Legacy first and activate BIOS flashback?
[15:47] <somsip> chotaz`w: use ~/.ssh/config and aliases. No gui there though, so maybe someone else can advise
[15:47] <F-3000> daftykins: Want to see grub.cfg?
[15:48] <daftykins> fungifungible: which ubuntu version and what graphics hardware + driver?
[15:48] <F-3000> ioria: Nope, as I want to use uefi.
[15:48] <squarebit> I'm trying to run Ubuntu on an older laptop that had Windows Vista and i'm getting a system is running in low-graphics mode. how can i get the graphics card to cooperate properly?
[15:48] <lotuspsychje_> squarebit: wich grafix card is that
[15:48] <jamie_> What graphics card is it squarebit ?
[15:49] <lotuspsychje_> squarebit: and ubuntu version you trying to install?
[15:49] <daftykins> squarebit: tell us which it is
[15:49] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  Ubuntu 14.04, MySQL Workbench 6.0.  How can I update to 6.2?
[15:49] <daftykins> MarcGuay: find a PPA, but bear in mind they're not supported
[15:50] <squarebit> I'm not sure which video card it has but it uses the Intel 940/943/945 Video Driver for Vista
[15:50] <squarebit> It's a Compaq Presario C500 Notebook
[15:50] <daftykins> squarebit: share its' entry from 'lspci'
[15:50] <daftykins> or better yet the whole 'lspci' in a pastebin
[15:51] <lotuspsychje_> squarebit: wich ubuntu version are you trying
[15:51] <squarebit> daftykins: i'm not sure how to get into a command prompt
[15:51] <BluesKaj> lspci | grep VGA , perhaps
[15:52] <daftykins> squarebit: ctrl+alt+T
[15:52] <daftykins> or ctrl+alt+F1
[15:52] <squarebit> 14.04
[15:52] <fungifungible> daftykins, I have 14.04.2, and  Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) -- the output for driver has a lot of names, shall I paste it?
[15:53] <daftykins> fungifungible: nah that's ok, sounds like intel on-die graphics with a haswell chip
[15:53] <BluesKaj> fungifungible, that's probly the i915 driver
[15:53] <squarebit> i tried ctrl+alt+f1 and it showed a bunch of weird symbols
[15:54] <fungifungible> the system details GUI says 'Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset '
[15:54] <daftykins> F2? you might get a login prompt eventually
[15:56] <elux> how can i check if aufs is installed and working..?
[15:57] <fungifungible> why would these errors be occuring?
[15:59] <daftykins> fungifungible: no idea personally. try another browser and see if it persists
[16:00] <fungifungible> yes, maybe I can reinstall the browser, too
[16:00] <bogdan> hi. is possible to use kde desktop interface on ubuntu unity?
[16:02] <daftykins> bogdan: well not on unity, but you can install KDE or kubuntu-desktop sure
[16:02] <bogdan> where can i find kde?
[16:02] <EriC^> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:03] <k1l> bogdan: you can install the kde desktop and change the desktop setting on the login screen then.
[16:03] <OerHeks> Then you will end up without the unity panel, if that is what you want
[16:04] <DexterF> hi
[16:05] <bogdan> sudo apt-get install kde does exist is the correct command?
[16:05] <k1l> bogdan: use the "kubuntu-desktop" package
[16:05] <DexterF> I use kde mainly, but prefer gThumb as image viewer. now the latest version has a weird theme (dark while other gtk apps match my kde theme) and I have no idea where to conf that
[16:06] <DexterF> plus: does it have to look like a mobile app? where do I find settings?
[16:06] <bogdan> if i use kubuntu desktop this will be only for appearance right? it will still be ubuntu unity only design change?
[16:07] <k1l> bogdan: you cant use unity and kde at the same time.
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  yes, it wil be ubuntu with other desktop interface, kde instead of unity
[16:08] <bogdan> MonkeyDust, thx
[16:08] <k1l> bogdan: you can either drive a BMW or a Mercedes. but not both at the same time. so choose one
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  unity is just the appearance, it's the smae ubuntu
[16:08] <bogdan> k1l, you do not understand what i want. i will use ubuntu unity. i just asked if is possible to change de design to look like kde...like a theme
[16:09] <EriC^> um, why don't you install kde?
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  install kde, if you want the kde look
[16:09] <skinux> Could low-memory warnings be caused by Ubuntu's use of hard disk for cacheing?
[16:09] <bogdan> where i can find kde?
[16:09] <k1l> bogdan: well. than you need to rephrase that better. of couse you can change the theme to another one that you like. but the app launcher will stay on the left side only.
[16:10] <reborn> is this help?
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> reborn  yes, let's hear it
[16:12] <reborn> http://i.imgur.com/AwaKms0.png
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> reborn  in proper wors, please
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> words*
[16:12] <bogdan> what i fglrx for?
[16:12] <bogdan> is*
[16:12] <reborn> oh, it is a imagine link, a terminal command.
[16:13] <EriC^> bogdan: it's the amd proprietary driver
[16:13] <reborn> and it seem broken package, how i fix this?
[16:13] <bogdan> Eric__, thx
[16:13] <EriC^> reborn: try installing the package it's saying can't be installed and it should mention why
[16:13] <EriC^> xorg-video-abi-11
[16:14] <yeroyestark> pene
[16:14] <reborn> i have tried in synaptic, it appear alert red icon.
[16:15] <EriC^> reborn: sudo apt-get install xorg-video-abi-11
[16:16] <EriC^> reborn: you can just copy and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[16:16] <fungifungible> daftykins, thank you!
[16:17] <fungifungible> BluesKaj, thank you, too!
[16:17] <bogdan> hmmm installing kubuntu-desktop takes pretty much
[16:18] <LadyAlissa> How can I set up apt to use a SOCKS4 proxy?
[16:18] <reborn> http://i.imgur.com/ub5Kpqx.png
[16:19] <bogdan> guys is this ok? http://i.imgur.com/2Z6UqZz.png?1
[16:20] <LadyAlissa> BBIAB. \o
[16:20] <teward> bogdan: yes I believe that is OK - it happens here on Ubuntu too, and I think there's a bug open on it somewhere
[16:21] <bogdan> Generating grub configuration file ...
[16:21] <bogdan> Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
[16:21] <bogdan> what this means?
[16:21] <reborn> Eric^?
[16:22] <OerHeks> bogdan no dual timeouts possible
[16:23] <EriC^> reborn: try sudo apt-get update
[16:24] <reborn> should i copy and paste?
[16:24] <EriC^> reborn: fglrx says it needs one of the xorg-video-abi- packages but it installs here without them being installed
[16:24] <plasma> hi
[16:24] <compdoc> reborn, pastebin.com
[16:24] <plasma> my firefox isnt german, besides installing firefox-locale-de
[16:24] <EriC^> reborn: no let it run, unless you get errors
[16:25] <EriC^> reborn: type apt-cache policy fglrx and paste the output
[16:26] <reborn> i have got no error after update.
[16:27] <reborn> fglrx:
[16:27] <reborn>   Installed: (none)
[16:27] <reborn>   Candidate: 2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2
[16:27] <reborn>   Version table:
[16:27] <reborn>      2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2 0
[16:27] <reborn>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/restricted amd64 Packages
[16:28] <OerHeks> !paste
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> reborn  next time, use a pastebin
[16:28] <EriC^> reborn: did you try the additional drivers in the dash?
[16:28] <herbie> #ardour
[16:29] <reborn> i don't know, i just want to install fglrx. that's all.
[16:29] <EriC^> reborn: open the dash and type drivers
[16:30] <reborn> nothing in there.
[16:30] <reborn> wait
[16:30] <reborn> additional drivers?
[16:30] <EriC^> yes
[16:31] <reborn> i have tried that, but it back to property recommend.
[16:31] <EriC^> by property you mean proprietary?
[16:31] <reborn> sorry, yes.
[16:32] <EriC^> so what is selected right now?
[16:32] <EriC^> fglrx?
[16:33] <reborn> Using X.Org x Server along with Recommended driver.
[16:33] <EriC^> ok, press fglrx and click on apply
[16:34] <reborn> i did but back to X.Org X server.
[16:35] <enoch> hi all
[16:35] <enoch> how to add cc to mail in bash script?
[16:35] <EriC^> reborn: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[16:37] <reborn> http://imgur.com/GQNcRPO
[16:37] <gio_> !list
[16:38] <EriC^> reborn: try sudo apt-get install xorg-video-abi-15
[16:39] <reborn> it is same where i posted a link.
[16:39] <coderman1> how can i list all python processes running longer than 1 hr?
[16:39] <EriC^> reborn: try sudo apt-get install libcheese*
[16:40] <reborn> it seem repond, and shall i install?
[16:41] <ioria> it would be possible for a specific laptop boots in uefi mode for win8 and legacy for linux ?
[16:41] <EriC^> reborn: try sudo apt-get install xorg-video-abi-15 fglrx
[16:42] <EriC^> ioria: yes but you'd have to do it manually every time you booted
[16:42] <EriC^> ioria: very impractical
[16:43] <ioria> EriC^ and if this laptop would have the ability to check what os is booting, and switch automatically ?
[16:45] <reborn> it worked and it seem responsed! what's caused that?
[16:45] <F-3000> EriC^, daftykins: Ubuntu MATE installed as supposed to, no idea why installer asked for boot loader destination, as it made no difference. Now the laptop boots straight to grup (I made it so, thru uefi), with secure booting on, and boots Ubuntu without problems.
[16:45] <EriC^> ioria: not sure what you're asking..
[16:45] <reborn> do i have to reboot?
[16:46] <daftykins> F-3000: yay \o/
[16:46] <EriC^> reborn: yeah
[16:46] <EriC^> F-3000: great
[16:47] <ioria> EriC^, it's related to Lenovo g500  . i found people who had installed dual boot win8/Ubuntu the first in uefi and Ubu in legay... that's possible ?
[16:47] <ioria> legacy
[16:47] <EriC^> ioria: i have no idea
[16:48] <daftykins> you can mix install modes but then you can't boot both easily
[16:48] <ioria> thanx
[16:48] <EriC^> daftykins: he says the laptop checks which os is booting and switches from uefi to bios automatically, have you heard of anything like that?
[16:48] <reborn> let me reboot.. BRB
[16:49] <daftykins> EriC^: hmm, not without pressing a key to get a one-time boot menu and say, picking different disks or something
[16:49] <EriC^> sounds like something from terminator 3: rise of the machines
[16:49] <daftykins> :D
[16:51] <sam__> hi guyies
[16:51] <lookitzawess> yo
[16:51] <daftykins> greetings
[16:51] <sam__> whats up iam new
[16:52] <daftykins> well, this is ubuntu support chat - so questions or help giving only. chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:52] <lookitzawess> oh nothing much, just enjoying a warm cup of coffee.
[16:53] <reborn> hello Eric^
[16:53] <reborn> it is now worked, and what's caused that?
[16:53] <EriC^> hello reborn
[16:55] <alu> hi
[16:55] <alu> hi
[16:56] <reborn> so what's caused that?
[16:56] <alu> idk
[16:57] <alu25> lucas
[16:57] <alu25> mmm
[16:57] <alu> pelao
[16:58] <reborn> oh sorry. i forgot to say thanks, Eric^
[16:58] <daftykins> alu: no clones and support questions only please
[16:59] <alu> relax daftykins
[16:59] <daftykins> alu: i am perfectly relaxed (:
[16:59] <Lorien> hol
[17:00] <alu> then don't tell me what i have to do
[17:00] <daftykins> sorry, place have rules and you shall follow them :)
[17:00] <alu> kk sorry
[17:00] <Lorien> alu:
[17:01] <alu> sorry im a new informatic technic
[17:01] <alu> Pablo puntillo
[17:01] <chotaz`w> !it > alu
[17:02] <reborn> which is best to have a apps monitor cpu temp?
[17:02] <alu> monitor
[17:02] <alu> without dude
[17:02] <reborn> i am on unity ubuntu 14.04.2
[17:04] <Lorien> hello
[17:05] <boabsta> reborn: you could try sensors-applet
[17:07] <denos> so after upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10 i boot to a blank screen, and now i can't recover my home directory with ecryptfs-recover-private from a liveusb because unwrapping the passphrase failed
[17:08] <reborn> i did, i can't find apps in dash.
[17:09] <reborn> boabsta
[17:09] <denos> but if i boot with nomodeset flagged, i can get to a command prompt where i can run ecrypt-recover-private and home is mounted successfully
[17:09] <denos> any idea why i can't do this with a GUI from liveusb?
[17:10] <anam> help me
[17:10] <boabsta> reborn: you may need to restart
[17:10] <reborn> ohh
[17:10] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | anam
[17:13] <boabsta> anam: i find drinking copious amounts of vodka gets me through hard times
[17:13] <reborn> i did restart, and i can't apps in dash.
[17:13] <anam> how to instal ralink rt5390  ...in ubuntu
[17:13] <Pazooza> Makes your liver hard too.
[17:14] <reborn> boabsta
[17:16] <alu_> ey
[17:17] <reborn> ?
[17:17] <anam> hhh
[17:23] <alu__436> hola
[17:24] <alu__436> #alu
[17:25] <SCHAAP137> after upgrading from 14.10 to 15.04 (using update-manager -d), my MATE session somehow magically starts AbiWord after logging in
[17:25] <SCHAAP137> with an empty new document
[17:25] <SCHAAP137> but, I can't seem to find what's causing this, i certainly don't have AbiWord in my autostart apps
[17:26] <SchrodingersScat> !15.04 | SCHAAP137
[17:26] <SCHAAP137> allright, thanks
[17:26] <billetdoux> Which versio of OpenSSL do we require to use TLS-ECDHE? also wchi version of OpenSSL is required for even using TLS 1.2 even without EC? I guess Ubuntu 14.04 don't support either
[17:33] <anew> i'm not sure why but only the first line of my cron is running, i hvave 3 lines, each executing different scripts
[17:33] <vixterra> I'm using the nvidia proprietary drivers on 14.10 and my monitor's refresh rate resets down to 60hz from 144hz every time I restart, and I have to go back through nvidia-settings to change it again. I've tried running nvidia-settings as root and it doesn't change anything and the modeline in my xorg.conf does have the monitor set to 144hz. Anyone know what might be up with this?
[17:34] <compdoc> 144hz is kinda crazy
[17:35] <vixterra> how so?
[17:35] <compdoc> back when monitors were tubes, 75Hz was about the highest rate you needed. Anything higher over-heats the monitor electronics
[17:36] <compdoc> now that everything is LCD, 60Hz is more common
[17:37] <vixterra> I mean I don't see any reason not to use 144 since my monitor supports it.
[17:37] <tinoco> )
[17:43] <genkgo> if ubuntu goes into read only filesystem, where I can find the log with the reason for this?
[17:44] <daftykins> genkgo: dmesg
[17:44] <daftykins> genkgo: or boot a live session and try to mount it manually, then read that
[17:44] <genkgo> daftykins: i have no luck finding the line
[17:45] <genkgo> daftykins: it happened yesterday. syslog just stops after the moment that it happened (read-only mean no writing, not even logs I guess)
[17:46] <daftykins> genkgo: yep so boot a live session then come back here :)
[17:46] <ubuntu-studio> hola  con todosss
[17:46] <genkgo> daftykins: it is a production server
[17:46] <fecaloid> /quit
[17:46] <fecaloid> /Quit
[17:46] <daftykins> genkgo: i doubt it's producing very much right now then?
[17:47] <genkgo> well, it rebooted and then was fine again
[17:47] <genkgo> but it happened twice yesterday
[17:47] <ubuntu-studio> XD
[17:47] <ubuntu-studio>  como estan todoss  muy buenas  tardes
[17:47] <evilworm> is there a suggested password length/method for opengpg or similar, if I have a fear my actual computer might be seized?
[17:47] <genkgo> before never, today everything fine again
[17:47] <ubuntu-studio>  me llamoo  piter
[17:47] <ubuntu-studio> y soy del peru
[17:48] <fecaloid> /quit
[17:48] <ubuntu-studio> ¿?¿?¿?
[17:48] <ubuntu-studio> que   pasa man
[17:49] <Ziber> I'm installing ubuntu and it's failing at "configuring the clock". can I skip that?
[17:50] <ubuntu-studio> mmmm
[17:50] <ubuntu-studio> soy nuevo usuariooo
[17:50] <ubuntu-studio> nada mal esta  distribuciion
[17:50] <BluesKaj> !es | ubuntu-studio
[17:51] <ubuntu-studio> mmm
[17:51] <ubuntu-studio> hayaa
[17:51] <ubuntu-studio> mmmm
[17:51] <ubuntu-studio> pero man donde   hago eso
[17:51] <Ziber> Why would configuring the clock fail on my install, anyway?
[17:52] <ubuntu-studio> donde veoo
[17:52] <ubuntu-studio> la  comunidad en español
[17:52] <ubuntu-studio> no loveo
[17:52] <ubuntu-studio> no lo veo
[17:52] <ubuntu-studio> ubuntu español donde estaa   ¿?¿?¿?¿?
[17:53] <OerHeks> !es
[17:53] <fecaloid> Hey guys, how do I leave this chat?
[17:53] <evilworm> type /part
[17:53] <BluesKaj> ubuntu-studio, /j  #ubuntu-es
[17:54] <evilworm> so my earlier question if anyone maybe knows the answer
[17:54] <evilworm> is there a suggested password length/method for opengpg or similar, if I have a fear my actual computer might be seized?
[17:54] <Ziber> Any ideas about ntp configuration failing during install?
[17:56] <BluesKaj> Ziber, maybe your BIOS clock and the local time/time zone you chose are in conflict, but you can probly fix it once the install is finished
[17:56] <daftykins> genkgo: can you install pastebinit and smartmontools on that system - then run "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and share the link to me?
[17:57] <Ziber> BluesKaj: Won't let me skip it, but it might be a network connectivity issue.
[17:57] <Ziber> Alas, it's not.
[17:58] <Ziber> Yeah, not letting me skip it and it's not a network issue. :(
[17:58] <ioria> Ziber have you checked the installation disk  integrity ?
[17:58] <Ziber> It's netboot kernel/ramdisk. How do I do that?
[17:58] <OerHeks> Ziber is your bios clock way off ?
[17:59] <Ziber> I dunno. The host's clock is correct.
[18:00] <genkgo> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/w6bm9YML
[18:00] <daftykins> genkgo: oh, this is a Hyper-V VM?
[18:00] <genkgo> daftykins: y
[18:00] <Ziber> It's a Xen VM
[18:01] <daftykins> Ziber: maybe yours is, but i was addressing someone else :)
[18:01] <daftykins> the clue is what i type at the start of a sentence
[18:01] <Ziber> Oh, ha.
[18:01] <Ziber> I didn't see that. My bad.
[18:01] <daftykins> np :)
[18:01] <Ziber> Got another NTP server I can try, other than ntp.ubuntu.com?
[18:01] <daftykins> genkgo: ok i was getting at hard disk health checking but that's obviously not relevant, unless that VM is on a single disk.
[18:01] <genkgo> daftykins: i guess not
[18:02] <genkgo> daftykins:
[18:02] <genkgo> daftykins: the issue started at the same when a scheduled backup was started on the machine
[18:02] <genkgo> *same time
[18:03] <daftykins> genkgo: host doing a shadow copy disk image backup?
[18:04] <OerHeks> Ziber, old issue ? http://discussions.citrix.com/topic/326639-tips-for-setting-up-ntp-on-xenserver-hosts/
[18:04] <genkgo> daftykins: yes, i think would be right name
[18:04] <OerHeks> Ziber, you might want to check in #zen too
[18:04] <Ziber> OerHeks: I've installed ubuntu a bunch on xen, never had this issue
[18:04] <genkgo> daftykins: but we did that a lot of times without any problem, and nothing has changed (that is what apt/history.log is telling us)
[18:05] <daftykins> genkgo: hmm i have practically zero experience with that sadly, so i'd only be googling for something like "ubuntu hyperv shadow copy disks mounted read only" or hoping to gather longs next time it happens
[18:05] <OerHeks> they talk about ntp tools, i 'had' never issues with that either.
[18:05] <daftykins> well APT's history is only of packages installed really
[18:05] <NoOova> hi guys! I have u user www-data
[18:05] <daftykins> NoOova: right...?
[18:05] <NoOova> but when i logit with "sudo -u www-data bash" i got whong environment
[18:05] <NoOova> why?
[18:06] <Ziber> Is ntp tools what's installed during the OS install?
[18:06] <NoOova> $HOME is like in previous user, for example
[18:06] <Ziber> OerHeks: I can't just skip this?
[18:07] <genkgo> daftykins: I read some threads on the subject, the problem is I cannot really get the cause of the issue
[18:07] <OerHeks> Ziber, no in xen itself i think ? https://wiki.umiacs.umd.edu/VirtualMeshTest/index.php/Xen_clock_sync_issues
[18:07] <genkgo> daftykins: there simple is no log that is telling what caused the issue
[18:08] <daftykins> genkgo: what first alerts you to the disk having been mounted read only?
[18:09] <genkgo> daftykins: cannot remember anymore, maybe unpacking some log *.gz
[18:09] <daftykins> well, are you connecting in and trying to install something and suddenly realising oh - read only?
[18:10] <genkgo> daftykins: no, it was weekend, got phone call, server is down, what is going on, i login, and see read-only mode
[18:11] <genkgo> daftykins: can this cause a read-only filesystem: "storvsc: Add. Sense: Invalid command operation code"
[18:11] <Ziber> Upped the memory of the VM, fixed it.
[18:14] <Ziber> Well, I made two changes at once. One was a memory change, the other was a network setting change. Not 100% sure which fixed it.
[18:15] <daftykins> genkgo: hrmm storsvc appears to be a Windows host-side kernel driver
[18:15] <anew> any help on a crontab that only runs the first line in crontab -e ?
[18:15] <genkgo> anew: are the other lines starting with a space?
[18:16] <anew> genkgo, you mean a line space ?
[18:18] <genkgo> daftykins: yeah, all to weird. i see quite some threads on the subject, e.g. http://serverfault.com/questions/661299/ubuntu-14-04-cloud-server-disks-gone-read-only
[18:18] <genkgo> but there is no answer to the thread
[18:19] <daftykins> genkgo: can you confirm the Linux guests' kernel?
[18:19] <sgen> Im having some trouble getting phpmyadmin to work. When I navigate to /phpmyadmin I see an error stating that the json extension is not installed. On running php -m on the command line json doesnt appear. When I run sudo apt-get install php5-json apt-get reports that its already
[18:19] <daftykins> (version)
[18:19] <genkgo> daftykins: 3.16
[18:19] <genkgo> 3.16.0-031600-generic #201408031935
[18:20] <daftykins> genkgo: that doesn't look like an official kernel...
[18:20] <daftykins> normally it would be 3.16.0-##-generic
[18:20] <daftykins> !info linux-generic trusty
[18:21] <daftykins> eh non-HWE
[18:22] <genkgo> daftykins: that one is also installed on the machine
[18:22] <daftykins> genkgo: which specifically?
[18:22] <genkgo> the one ubottu is saying
[18:23] <genkgo> 3.13.0-49-generic
[18:23] <daftykins> oh a 3.13, yeah i'd try using that
[18:23] <anew> genkgo where should the spaces be
[18:23] <daftykins> that's the true LTS kernel for 14.04 - 3.16 is utopic's (v14.10) hardware enablement stack kernel
[18:24] <genkgo> anew: there should not be one, I believe lines atrting with a space are ignored
[18:24] <anew> atrting?
[18:25] <genkgo> anew: starting
[18:25] <genkgo> daftykins: ok, so, your advice will be to switch to the 3.13 kernel?
[18:25] <daftykins> yep
[18:25] <daftykins> 100%
[18:25] <layke> Hey. I've got a SSD that is dead/dying. It's one of the OCZs that only boots once every 1000 boots. Anyway, I've managed to get it to boot, and I want to copy everything to another hard drive. I cannot boot to a live CD, since it's taken me several hours of restarting every 20 seconds to get the drive detected.
[18:25] <layke> Can I just dd everything?
[18:26] <layke> If it doesn't work, I don't care.. anything is better than nothing..
[18:26] <genkgo> daftykins: 100%, that is really a lot
[18:26] <daftykins> layke: you'd be better off minimising writes by copying manually
[18:26] <daftykins> genkgo: hehe, well the other 3.16 kernel having a date in it instead of being a proper one is really suspicious to me
[18:27] <genkgo> daftykins: as if there was a reason for it ;)
[18:27] <layke> daftykins, The actual size of the transfer shouldn't be that much of a problem, and I don't think that the SSD will fail while transfering. This bug is well documented as just being a boot issue
[18:27] <layke> Ideally, I'd just like to clone the partition to a new SSD
[18:27] <layke> (Which I currently also have mounted)
[18:27] <genkgo> daftykins: we also have another vps in the hyper v platform: same 3.16 kernel, no problems
[18:28] <daftykins> layke: ah i see. which model?
[18:28] <layke> ocz vertex 2e
[18:28] <daftykins> hrmm
[18:28] <layke> It's quite old now. I think the bug is called sandforce or something
[18:28] <daftykins> layke: well i'm not sure if clonezilla would enjoy running on a running install, worth a go though
[18:28] <daftykins> yeah i avoid all sandforce based SSDs :)
[18:29] <layke> I thought clonezilla was essentially a "livecd"?
[18:29] <layke> Can you run it on a running OS?
[18:29] <daftykins> it's also installable
[18:29] <daftykins> give it a go
[18:29] <layke> Okay thanks
[18:29] <guillo> hello
[18:30] <layke> Will clonezilla handle the partitioning of the target SSD? I've got an OS on it that I want to nuke
[18:30] <layke> I foolishly thought I'd use a different version of Ubuntu than my production
[18:30] <genkgo> daftykins: thanks, I have enough information now
[18:30] <layke> And quickly ran into issues :)
[18:30] <daftykins> personally i would 'dd' 100MB of zeroes to the start of the other disk then run it
[18:30] <daftykins> the other disk will also ideally be larger than the SSD
[18:30] <genkgo> anew: also check dmesg for your cron logs
[18:31] <layke> The source disk is 120GB. The target disk is 250GB
[18:31] <daftykins> magic. that'll be easy then
[18:31] <genkgo> daftykins: we will start using 3.13, thanks for your help
[18:31] <daftykins> genkgo: no problem!
[18:31] <anew> i'm checking syslog, what's dmesg ?
[18:32] <daftykins> type it and you shall see
[18:32] <layke> daftykins, You were correct. You can't run clonezilla on a running OS
[18:33] <layke> The disk has to be unmounted
[18:33] <layke> Before it will use it :)
[18:33] <daftykins> damn.
[18:33] <daftykins> dd should be alright then, yeah
[18:34] <daftykins> layke: you ok with the syntax for the clone?
[18:34] <layke> What steps would I need to do?
[18:34] <layke> I really don't know what I should be doing in terms of parititoning
[18:34] <layke> Then creating a filesystem????
[18:34] <layke> Or does dd handle that?
[18:34] <daftykins> nah not for straight drive cloning
[18:34] <daftykins> dd will do it all yep
[18:34] <daftykins> i think i would ideally switch to TTY1, 'sudo service lightdm stop'
[18:35] <layke> Okay. Maybe I should boot up xchat on another system
[18:35] <daftykins> then "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY bs=2M" (where X is source SSD, Y is destination disk)
[18:35] <layke> How can I know which is whihc? lsblk?
[18:36] <layke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10857522/
[18:36] <layke> So it looks like /sda1 is the TARGET
[18:36] <layke> I can't tell what the source is though
[18:37] <layke> Maybe it's the LVM?  sdb5
[18:37] <daftykins> no don't use partitions
[18:38] <anew> i have cron sending messages to my mail, the first line runs and sends a message, but th eother lines dont i have no idea
[18:38] <daftykins> layke: can you do a "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" ?
[18:38] <layke> O okay. So TARGET "sda", and SOURCE is "sdb" I guess, if I'm looking at type=disk
[18:38] <layke> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10857543/
[18:38] <layke> SAMSUNG = target
[18:39] <dav> Hi, xrandr --output HDMI2 --rotate left works, but Option "Rotate" "Left" in Xorg.conf's monitor section doesn't. Any ideas?
[18:39] <layke> OCZ = piece of crap that dies on me every morning
[18:39] <daftykins> layke: you'll need to unmount the samsung first too, run "sudo umount /dev/sda1"
[18:39] <layke> So you are unmounting the partition
[18:40] <daftykins> layke: but yes, "sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda bs=2M"
[18:40] <daftykins> layke: yep
[18:40] <wyre> i want to install android stuidio i get that issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-developer-tools-center/+bug/1400536
[18:40] <alexandre> hi. I installed xampp on ubuntu14.04 but when i run phpmyadmin, I have error 2002. Anybody has an ideas ?
[18:41] <layke> daftykins, Okay thanks. I'm going to attempt it now.
[18:41] <alexandre> I search on google but i don't find anything
[18:42] <pbx> alexandre, that question is better for another channel like #php
[18:43] <layke> Thanks daftykins. it is running.
[18:43] <layke> I'm going to head off for a bit while it runs. I guess it will take a couple of minutes :)
[18:43] <daftykins> layke: cool, shouldn't take too long yeah - maybe 10 mins
[18:43] <layke> daftykins, Once it has completed.. I guess I can just pull out the old drive
[18:43] <layke> And push in the new one?
[18:44] <layke> And then maybe update grub
[18:44] <layke> to get rid of the old boots
[18:44] <daftykins> layke: yep hopefully
[18:47] <Ziber> Anyone know where I could get pvgrub downloaded from?
[18:48] <changu> hey so i'm running the installer to reinstall 14.10 on a dual boot win8 system and it says i need to create a separate EFI partition for boot loader code
[18:49] <changu> why do i need to do that? i already installed win8/ubuntu dual boot and i just want to reinstall ubuntu
[18:49] <OerHeks> Ziber, join #xen for those issues > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/PvGrub
[18:49] <ponyofdeath> hi, how can I find out what package creates /var/lock sym link? its missing for my 12.04 install
[18:52] <daftykins> changu: can you show a "sudo parted -l" via http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[18:54] <changu> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10857627/
[18:55] <daftykins> changu: hrmm definitely looks ok, and since the EFI question arose surely it booted in EFI mode with the white text on black background?
[18:56] <daftykins> changu: i think i would back out then choose 'something else' for partitioning, then pick your swap and root manually, followed by the EFI partition manually as per the EFI guide page
[18:56] <layke> daftykins, All worked. I'm on the new drive now. Thanks
[18:57] <hkrrsx> morning
[18:57] <changu> daftykins: okay thanks, fingers crossed.
[18:57] <DQW2d98> hi
[18:58] <daftykins> layke: \o/ np :) enjoy
[18:58] <changu> daftykins: will doing it this way still handle replacing grub entries etc?
[18:59] <daftykins> changu: yeah - are you formatting the ubuntu volumes?
[19:02] <changu> daftykins: yeah since 14.10 won't boot i thought i'd try reinstalling in place, if that doesn't work i'll erase and reinstall, or else run os-installer and repartition back to virgin ntfs/win8 and start over
[19:03] <bulemo> can anyone help me about dictionary in linux mint i got it work when am online if am not does not help me at all
[19:03] <daftykins> !mint | bulemo
[19:05] <danbower> i've connected to the network at my workplace via a VPN but DNS requests aren't getting resolved. i've placed the IP of the DNS server within my  openvpn configuration but doesn't work, just instantly fails. is there a particular file i can place the IP so it definitely gets honoured?
[19:06] <daftykins> danbower: do queries resolve if you manually run say "dig" telling it to use that IP?
[19:07] <hkrrsx> danbower: I ran into that exact same issue and our network administrator provided me with this URL:  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenVPN#DNS
[19:07] <hkrrsx> Yes, I understand it's for Arch Linux but the resolution worked
[19:10] <nashant> Hey. Which remote desktop software forwards the current x session?
[19:10] <mmercer> nashant: x2go, vnc
[19:10] <mmercer> depending on how they are configured
[19:10] <mmercer> out of the two, x2go is the better option
[19:11] <OerHeks> vnc over ssh is not bad
[19:11] <OerHeks> !vnc
[19:13] <nashant> mmercer: I tried x2go but it doesn't forward the current session, it creates a new one
[19:14] <mmercer> nashant: you have to tell the client to use the current session
[19:14] <mmercer> if you tell the client to use the current session, it will snag the current session, thats the client side option
[19:18] <nashant> mmercer: ok, just told it that and it crashed straight away
[19:18] <mmercer> nashant:  so restart the client
[19:20] <nashant> ok, x2go sucks. Poor image and slow
[19:24] <nashant> Right, another question. Do no desktops support scaling?
[19:25] <nashant> I want to shrink everything so I can fit more on more on the screen
[19:29] <tychicus> has anyone run into issues with tagged vlan's on 14.04?
[19:30] <tychicus> I've got an issue where untagged vlan's work as expected, and tagged vlan's work for other machines but not for ubuntu machines
[19:32] <wolverinee> Hello, I'm having issues trying to mount a nfs directory (I'm using the configuration provided by vagrant). It supposed to be mounted, but when I run 'cd /vagrant' it hangs and never finishes to run. Any ideas about how to debug this issue?
[19:33] <F-3000>  /quit You people rock!
[19:33] <F-3000> Nope...
[19:33] <kojot> hello everyone
[19:34] <mmercer> nashant: rather than insulting an app you have little familiarity with, you might do better actually reading, and learning what it supports;  x2go is a refork of the old NX project before freenx went private,  it is *known* for its speed and efficiency, so, if its slow, thats a setting you have somewhere
[19:34] <mmercer> anywho, back to my normal room
[19:37] <Seveas> wolverinee: looks like it cannot connect to the NFS server. Pastebin ip address configuration, /etc/exports and /etc/fstab for both hosts.
[19:41] <nashant> mmercer: Just trying nomachine and it works a treat. Exactly what I was after. It's a tricky set up I have and been having no luck at all until today
[19:42] <nashant> I'm a bit fraught
[19:42] <wolverinee> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bhtrjhVu http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=811xcgDY  http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Fyt05BvH  The guess machine doesn't seem to have a /etc/exportfs
[19:43] <Vladimir1ki> Is there a good tutorial for inotify, I'm trying to understand how to use it
[19:44] <mmercer> nashant: good luck with nomachine, theres a reason very few of us run it anymore -- they went closed, which means you pay for it, and it gets costly quick
[19:46] <nashant> mmercer: I'm only accessing one vm on my xen server. That's all I want it for, so still free I think, no?
[19:46] <mmercer> nashant: some features and access, yes
[19:46] <mcphail> Vladimir1ki: how do you want to use inotify? From the command line or from a C program?
[19:46] <mmercer> nashant: not all of it though
[19:47] <nashant> mmercer: It seems like it's gonna be ok for what I need. Just accessing my dev VM from an RPi thin client.
[19:50] <blastermaster> when is the new ubuntu coming out?
[19:51] <bazhang> two days hence or so blastermaster
[19:51] <blastermaster> thanks
[19:52] <Kully3xf> server can't telnet to another server. Dies every time... can't ping it or anything
[19:53] <Kully3xf> ran a trace route and now everything is working again
[19:53] <Kully3xf> what's the deal
[19:53] <Kully3xf> this is after a reboot
[19:54] <aznable> hi,
[19:55] <aznable> what alternative for ubuntu to open epub files except fbreader
[19:56] <mcphail> aznable: I tend to use the reader built into Calibre. Don't know if that is different to fbreader
[19:56] <aznable> is there any stand-alone apps?
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[19:57] <bazhang> http://www.linuxnix.com/2014/09/how-to-openread-epub-books-in-linux.html aznable
[19:57] <danbower> hey. i've connected to my work's vpn using network-manager-openvpn (slots into ubuntu's GUI). i'm able to connect but for some reason, my DNS entry doesn't get carried over to /etc/resolv.conf. any suggestions?
[19:57] <bazhang> calibre is quite different yes
[19:58] <aznable> thank i'll check the site
[19:58] <aznable> bazhang
[19:58] <bazhang> welcome
[19:58] <bazhang> !info calibre
[19:58] <mcphail> aznable: I haven't used any others so can't recommend, I'm afraid
[19:59] <danbower> however the "search domains" text input gets carried over. i'm not sure if it's because there's already a nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[19:59] <bazhang> in the repos aznable
[19:59] <aznable> !info fbreader
[20:00] <aznable> is there any chance to edit epub/convert epub in ubuntu? bazhang mcphail
[20:00] <bazhang> aznable, with calibre yes
[20:00] <mcphail> aznable: calibre can convert
[20:01] <bazhang> not just epub either aznable
[20:02] <alex89> i just did an upgrade from ubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 and when i expect a login screen the screen is black.
[20:02] <aznable> thank you bazhang mcphail
[20:02] <mcphail> aznable: enjoy
[20:02] <aznable> installing calibre
[20:02] <aznable> :)
[20:02] <daftykins> !nomodeset | alex89 likely your graphics drivers are gone right now, if applicable...
[20:03] <fecaloid> /quit
[20:03] <fecaloid> /exit
[20:08] <alex89> daftykins: ok i tried adding nomodeset to the grub on the first line but it says its an unknown command
[20:08] <daftykins> alex89: after quiet splash
[20:09]  * genii slides daftykins more high-octane coffee
[20:09] <daftykins> mmm just what i need, ty
[20:11] <alex89> daftykins: i tried it in multiple spots and it still says invalid command
[20:12] <daftykins> you're sure you mean 'nomodeset' ?
[20:13] <alex89> i typed nomodeset...
[20:13] <daftykins> with a space after so it didn't ruin the next parameter?
[20:14] <alex89> added s space and that didnt do anything.
[20:15] <EriC^> alex89: are you pressing ctrl+x?
[20:15] <Bashing-om> alex89: You do see this line " linux    /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=UUID=217ed9a7-e11a-4e32-8c05-992e8c8932b6 ro  quiet splash $vt_handoff " ??
[20:16] <alex89> EriC^: where?
[20:16] <EriC^> after you type it in, or press f10
[20:17] <alex89> Bashing-om: yes
[20:17] <EriC^> it executes the commands in the menu entry
[20:17] <hampus> Tja
[20:18] <alex89> i think i figured it out.
[20:18] <neopsyche> Hi all.. something wierd.. on ubuntu 14.04 LTS with Unity.. enable fullscreen redraws (tickbox) on compiz.. seems to 'reset' itself to default (off) on reboot.. I need this on .. to stop intel HD 3000 graphics tearing when watching videos etc.
[20:18] <alex89> well crap now it just took me to a tty1 screen.
[20:19] <neopsyche> alex.. perhaps you pressed ctrl alt f1?
[20:19] <alex89> when i go to ctrl alt f7 the screen is black.
[20:20] <alex89> i guess there is a bug upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10 ...
[20:20] <neopsyche> to all.. how to stop the reset of settings in compiz?
[20:20] <neopsyche> Alex.. possibly graphics error
[20:20] <neopsyche> alex, many cards/ combinations of hardware / ubuntu could have issues.. if in doubt.. check ubuntu certified list.
[20:20] <acz32> anyone know if mate-panel can be always on top of other windows, and not reserve space. xfce4-panel can do this but i don't see the option in mate
[20:21] <neopsyche> acz32 I dont think I can help you with that mate ;-)
[20:22] <L33thaxorz> I tried upgrading to 14.10. Upon reboot, I got a black screen with a white console cursor
[20:22] <L33thaxorz> from 14.04
[20:23] <neopsyche> similar strange compiz reboot.. issue.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2137961
[20:23] <neopsyche> Compiz seems to do whatever it wants. :-)
[20:23] <L33thaxorz> this is a very short time after I installed 14.04 yesterday.
[20:23] <L33thaxorz> (well. on a new computer)
[20:24] <neopsyche> Leethaxorz:. Sometimes its better to just do a fresh install (thats debatable though) for desktop pcs etc.. (phones, tabs) because.. like in mint.. their upgrade path is fresh install.. servers are different in environs where they have to have low downtime and graphics etc are perhaps not as important.  Hence the strange anomaly with various hardware. Depends. Hardware / environs.
[20:24] <neopsyche> Leethaxors: I am staying with 14.04 till next LTS.
[20:25] <L33thaxorz> I want to update intel drivers though. :S
[20:26] <neopsyche> Leethaxors.. I looked at the same thing.. yes the intel drivers thing is a B*** but.. I just left it with the idea that 'if it aint broke dont fix it' as compiz setting fixes my tearing issue.  Tried upgrading on AMD64 but.. yeah theres an issue with that.. but there is apparently a PPA to get the latest and "greatest" (supposedly) intel drivers.
[20:26] <L33thaxorz> mmmhkay.
[20:26] <neopsyche> (however.. if your intel drivers are 'WORKING' (ie, you can browse and most tasks) dont bother upgrading perhaps?
[20:27] <L33thaxorz> But... EU4 was looking bad. .-.
[20:27] <neopsyche> EU4?
[20:27] <L33thaxorz> Europa Universalis 4. Grand Strategy Game.
[20:27] <L33thaxorz> Like Civilization, but on steroids
[20:27] <L33thaxorz> I'ma try a few things. brb.
[20:27] <neopsyche> AH YES. I see .. steam game?
[20:27] <neopsyche> Ok
[20:28] <neopsyche> Well.. sad to say this.. but.. Graphics for games is still lagging (mainly due to numbers) that should all change in a few years with steam machines becoming mainstream.. however.. for now.. NVIDIA or ATI would be better for games.. unfortunately intel onboard chips will generally never be better for games.. in terms of 3D
[20:29] <neopsyche> Also.. it is just my opinion.. but I feel a more long term and different release structure for average users (gamers, office workers etc) from that of the 'dev' community could be good.  And an environment which makes it more difficult for users to 'bork' their machines. But thats just me.
[20:30] <t1mp> neopsyche: that exists already, in case the "average users" stick with LTS releases and developers follow the latest releases
[20:31] <neopsyche> yes I agree t1mp, not intending to start debate.. I love ubuntu.. but .. average user = very unsophisticated.. so. unfortunately ..
[20:31] <neopsyche> They try things and break things.
[20:31] <neopsyche> I would consider myself lower intermediate linux desktop user.
[20:31] <neopsyche> (hence I am using LTS_
[20:31] <daftykins> neopsyche: this isn't the place for such general chat i'm afraid. support queries only
[20:32] <neopsyche> No prob.
[20:32] <daftykins> you're welcome to rant in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:32] <neopsyche> No disruption intended Dafty.
[20:32] <daftykins> :)
[20:32] <kokut> anyone knows an application to reduce the size of mp3's?
[20:32] <daftykins> alex89: TTY1 is fine. so what graphics hardware are you using?
[20:32] <kokut> in bulk?
[20:33] <neopsyche> FFMPEG kokut
[20:33] <acz32> i can't figure out how to stop mate-panel. when i kill it, it just respawns
[20:33] <neopsyche> FFMPEG is a commandline tool (inherently) however there are frontends (not sure what latest realease) for ubuntu such as WinFF
[20:33] <neopsyche> (i think thats the right name)
[20:34] <neopsyche> kokut .. Softwarecenter -> WinFF
[20:34] <kokut> neopsyche: k gotta try it out
[20:34] <kokut> when can we upgrade to 15.04
[20:34] <neopsyche> ok kokut .. if you get errors.. you may need to install 'restricted-extras'
[20:35] <daftykins> kokut: be patient
[20:35] <neopsyche> kokut.. my opinion (but perhaps thats a question for offtopic dafty?) is to wait till a version or two after initial LTS
[20:35] <daftykins> 15.04 is not LTS
[20:35] <neopsyche> kokut.. ie: DELL still released 12.04 a while after 14.04 was out on their 'developer XPS notebooks' because.. STABLE.
[20:35] <kokut> yea lol its just that FFMPG comes bundled with 15.04
[20:36] <neopsyche> Ok.. but kokut.. sudo apt-get install ffmpeg ;-)
[20:36] <kokut> k gonna try it out :)
[20:36] <neopsyche> Then you can perhaps soda apt-get coca cola while you convert your files ;-)
[20:36] <esde> #debian
[20:37] <lizzie> hi.  I have a package that gives me the error "package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should reinstall it before attempting a removal"
[20:37] <neopsyche> ok.. kokut ffmpeg is depreciated on 14.04
[20:37] <lizzie> but when I try to reinstall it, it causes a kernel panic
[20:37] <lizzie> so how do I bypass this and just remove it?
[20:37] <neopsyche> kokut.. try ffmpeg in softwarecenter search
[20:37] <daftykins> crikey it's lizzie
[20:37] <neopsyche> check 'gstreamer plugins'
[20:37] <neopsyche> hi lizzie
[20:38] <neopsyche> oh hi all .. haha by the way
[20:38] <lizzie> hi!
[20:38] <daftykins> lizzie: are you dpkg -r 'ing?
[20:38] <kokut> neopsyche: i already have GStreamer ffmpeg video plugin installed
[20:38] <neopsyche> lizzie.. Jesus saves. So should we?
[20:38] <kokut> looks like its more oriented towards video
[20:38] <neopsyche> ok kokut.. install winFF
[20:38] <lizzie> daftykins: does the same as apt-get
[20:38] <lizzie> neopsyche: what?
[20:39] <daftykins> sure but it's closer :P unless you mean you have and it does kernel panic too
[20:39] <neopsyche> lizzie try make an image of your system in case of that issue.. then revert to image in worst case
[20:39] <daftykins> but a kernel panic is a pretty bad sign in general..
[20:39] <neopsyche> lizzie.. sorry not better advice.. intermediate user or so.
[20:39] <lizzie> daftykins: the kernel panic is if I try to reinstall it
[20:40] <daftykins> force remove with dpkg then :)
[20:40] <neopsyche> kokut.. try install WinFF then it may install needed dependencies perhaps
[20:41] <lizzie> oh yeah let's see if I can.  I got distracted when apt-get didn't have a force flag.
[20:41] <neopsyche> there are other video/audio codecs for conversion besides ffmpeg
[20:41] <kokut> neopsyche: yea i might try it out but i would be converting from mp3 to mp3 right?
[20:41] <bazhang> avconv, or smplayer with mpv kokut
[20:41] <kokut> i just need to reduce the size of the files
[20:42] <neopsyche> bazhang.. kokut wants to convert.. not just play
[20:42] <bazhang> kokut, libav-tools
[20:42] <neopsyche> right libav thats other one
[20:42] <bazhang> neopsyche, thus my suggestion
[20:42] <bazhang> neopsyche, smplayer with mpv will do exactly that
[20:42] <neopsyche> however.. libav is terminal right.. kokut not sure if you were looking for GUI?
[20:43] <kokut> bazhang: i need to bulk convert a bunch of files, over a hundred
[20:43] <bazhang> neopsyche, has the cli and the gui options now
[20:43] <kokut> its not convert tho its more like a reduction of size/quality
[20:43] <bazhang> kokut, you wish to have a gui or use cli
[20:44] <neopsyche> hmm.. kokut i installed winff dumped mp4 video into and told it to convert to mp3 32khz it seems to be working
[20:44] <bazhang> kokut, so put them in the queue and start the conversion
[20:44] <kokut> bazhang: whatever works faster and lets me add a bunch of files at once
[20:44] <kokut> neopsyche: but i dont need to convert from mp4 video to mp3
[20:44] <kokut> i need to convert from mp3 to mp3 lower quality/size
[20:45] <bazhang> kokut, they are all pretty much the same speed at adding, the encoding time wont be shorter or longer
[20:45] <kokut> bazhang: i need to add a bunch of files at once i don't want to be adding a line for every file bc it would take forever
[20:46] <neopsyche> kokut.. WinFF -> set lower bitrate -> convert
[20:46] <alex89> daftykins: intel
[20:46] <neopsyche> kokut.. I just used the mp4 because I had not mp3 ;-)
[20:46] <bazhang> kokut, sounds like you want to rip the mp3 from video mp4, is that correct
[20:46] <daftykins> alex89: so likely you had a PPA you had packages from that you didn't remove prior to upgrade
[20:46] <neopsyche> kokut.. sounds like you are on a long journey to commandline use
[20:47] <adjudikator> command line is not a long journey
[20:47] <adjudikator> its the quickest journey
[20:48] <neopsyche> adjudikator: for someone who is used to GUi it can be
[20:48] <adjudikator> learn your terminals!
[20:48] <alex89> daftykins: im just doing a clean install now
[20:48] <kokut> bazhang: no, i need to reduce the quality of mp3 files
[20:48] <kokut> so they take up less space
[20:48] <adjudikator> neopsyche I know. Still, CLI is faster after you learn
[20:48] <kokut> i don't have anything to do with mp4 video
[20:49] <EriC^> kokut: i think soundconverter does that
[20:49] <EriC^> kokut: if you want to do it in batch i think lame can do that, not sure
[20:49] <neopsyche> kokut here.. something similar to this is what commandline can do http://askubuntu.com/questions/147944/bulk-batch-convert-mp3-files-to-ogg-via-command-line
[20:50] <neopsyche> except in your case you will mp3 bitrate to new bitrate mp3 instead of ogg
[20:50] <Hell-Razor> hey fellas, anybody have any luck setting up gtkpod? it will see my ipod but will give me a read only error when I try to add songs
[20:50] <OerHeks> EriC^, +1 lame codecs
[20:50] <kokut> neopsyche: thats for ogg dude
[20:50] <neopsyche> sorry no hellrazor. but hope it comes right
[20:50] <neopsyche> kokut.. I just mentioned. .you will have to use mp3 instead of ogg
[20:50] <kokut> neopsyche: but that is for ogg
[20:51] <kokut> its called dir2ogg ...
[20:51] <neopsyche> kokut get lame.
[20:51] <neopsyche> lame --mp3input -b 128 input.mp3 output.mp3
[20:51] <kokut> but that is for one file man
[20:52] <kokut> i need to convert hundreds of files
[20:52] <EriC^> for i in *; do lame ....; done
[20:52] <EriC^> or find if you need something recursive
[20:52] <neopsyche> kokut https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/lame
[20:53] <tahr227861> Lame
[20:54] <myers_> Hey guys is there an Ubuntu chat channel?
[20:54] <tahr227861> Yes there is
[20:54] <kokut> EriC^:  i dont know how that would work considering i don't want to have all the output files with a variable name... i need to name the output files the same as the input file.
[20:54] <tahr227861> #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:54] <OerHeks> with lame & soundconverter is easy
[20:55] <OerHeks> same name, option to put it in a different folder, so ..
[20:55] <myers_> thanks tahr227861
[20:55] <tahr227861> :3 Yw
[20:55] <EriC^> kokut: lame -b 128 "$i" "$i".converted
[20:55] <PCatinean> I need to start a simple .py file using a script in init.d
[20:55] <EriC^> or something.. depends where you want to save them
[20:55] <PCatinean> and it doesn't seem to work
[20:55] <PCatinean> no messages are being printed even though I give it the path and all
[20:56] <neopsyche> EriC is leet
[20:56] <neopsyche> lol
[20:56] <PCatinean> something like this: http://hastebin.com/esubaxukiq.bash
[20:56] <neopsyche> kokut:  lame -b 128 "$i" "$i".converted
[20:56] <neopsyche> :-)
[20:56] <Pericles> alguien tiene algun programa de control de presencia
[20:56] <kokut> EriC^: i don't want my files to have "converted" at the end either
[20:56] <neopsyche> Easy right adjudikator?
[20:56] <daftykins> !english | Pericles
[20:56] <EriC^> kokut: it's just an example
[20:57] <Pericles> ok
[20:57] <neopsyche> kokut: you just cant win em all bud?
[20:57] <EriC^> kokut: lame -b 128 "$i" ./convertedmp3/"$i"
[20:57] <neopsyche> (i know the feeling)
[20:57] <EriC^> kokut: that will save them in a convertedmp3 dir with the same name, you have to create the dir first though
[20:57] <neopsyche> kokut: I think google and me are your friend right now ;-)
[20:58] <kokut> EriC^: k gonna try it out
[20:58] <adjudikator> neopsyche I don't know if the cmd is correct, but trusting that it is, it+s indeed quite easy
[20:58] <adjudikator> thats what I love about cli
[20:58] <neopsyche> kokut: be sure to thank me.... http://soundconverter.org/
[20:59] <neopsyche> adjudikator: you are just leet. Thats all. lol ;-)
[20:59] <OerHeks> PCatinean, so you want to run willie? https://flexion.org/posts/2014-08-installing-willie-irc-bot-on-debian.html
[20:59] <lizzie> daftykins: which force flag do I use?
[21:00] <neopsyche> kokut: PS. its in the software center ;-)
[21:00] <lizzie> daftykins: nothing in the manpage jumped out at me
[21:00] <PCatinean> not like that :)
[21:01] <daftykins> lizzie: -rF ?
[21:02] <Jakey2> is there a repostory for python written code all in one place
[21:02] <lizzie> daftykins: that's not a dpkg thing
[21:02] <lizzie> it doesn't have a general force
[21:02] <Jakey2> excluding git hub and the like
[21:02] <lizzie> just forces for specific things
[21:02] <daftykins> lizzie: ah well. i remember the man page lacking too and going by google results
[21:02] <daftykins> just eating atm though :)
[21:02] <daftykins> Jakey2: perhaps a channel for python would be more appropriate?
[21:03] <lizzie> daftykins: wait never mind
[21:03] <neopsyche> kokut: not what you were looking for >. kokut: be sure to thank me.... http://soundconverter.org/
[21:03] <lizzie> there's --force-all that turns on all force flags
[21:03] <bprompt> Jakey2:    you mean  like CPAN?
[21:03] <Jakey2> yep posted in wrong place
[21:03] <lizzie> and it worked
[21:03] <lizzie> thanks!
[21:03]  * lizzie hugs daftykins
[21:03] <kokut> EriC^: that gives me unsopported audio format
[21:03] <daftykins> lizzie: aaah that's the one. enjoy :D
[21:03] <kokut> this lame -b 128 "$i" ./convertedmp3/"$i"
[21:03] <neopsyche> kokut: be sure to thank me.... http://soundconverter.org/
[21:03] <EriC^> kokut: are all the mp3 in one dir?
[21:04] <Jakey2> bprompt, yep but for python
[21:04] <kokut> EriC^: yea and i'm standing on it
[21:04] <neopsyche> kokut: . http://soundconverter.org/ not what you were looking for ?
[21:04] <bprompt> Jakey2:   hmmm dunno any myself
[21:05] <kokut> neopsyche: k gonna try it out
[21:05] <neopsyche> its in software center ;-) enjoy
[21:05] <Jakey2> ok
[21:05] <EriC^> kokut: try converting one single file and see if it works
[21:05] <neopsyche> I just installed it kokut, it looks great
[21:05] <neopsyche> I hope 64kbps is low enough for you .. thats the lowest setting I see in sc.
[21:06] <daftykins> you can always drop it to joint stereo and 8-bit :P
[21:06] <PCatinean> this does NOT seem to work
[21:06] <PCatinean> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13718821/run-python-script-as-daemon-at-boot-time-ubuntu
[21:06] <OerHeks> then i would go lossless
[21:06] <PCatinean> Why is it so damn hard to start a stupid python file with flask in it?
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> PCatinean  mind your language
[21:07] <kokut> k its working, ty neopsyche lets see how it works out, its good that it uses a thread for file so its basically using 100% of my cpu
[21:07] <kokut> that's pretty neat,
[21:08] <sjmikem> I'm on TT with a logitech wireless keyboard.  periodically I get sporadic repeating characters, usually a "1" but someimes escapes or other characters
[21:09] <sjmikem> any idea how to prevent?
[21:09] <daftykins> "TT" ?
[21:09] <sjmikem> 14.10
[21:09] <bprompt> teletype?
[21:09] <daftykins> that is utopic unicorn
[21:10] <OerHeks> sounds like dirt on the connections, hardwareissue
[21:10] <sjmikem> Oh, sorry... UU :-)
[21:11] <daftykins> sjmikem: or an obscured view between device + receiver
[21:11] <sjmikem> It didn't happen when I was running Windows
[21:11] <daftykins> me, i love cables
[21:13] <neopsyche> cables?
[21:13] <neopsyche> kokut: youre welcome. thanks for supporting ubuntu
[21:15] <kokut> neopsyche: lol thanks ubuntu for supporting me
[21:18] <paperhawks> hi everyone, I've got a weird missing letters problem on a brand new xubuntu install. anyone have anything similar?
[21:20] <backbox> hello?
[21:22] <compdoc> you were allowed one question, backbox
[21:24] <testerbit> are there certain ports or security settings that need to be enabled in order for apt-get to work? The machine I'm on can't even get a response ping from us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com
[21:25] <neopsyche> paperhawks: letters?
[21:26] <neopsyche> hello backbox
[21:26] <neopsyche> testerbit: try other server/
[21:26] <neopsyche> ?
[21:26] <testerbit> where are the list of servers?
[21:27] <neopsyche> testerbit: you should be able to change to default in the software sources.
[21:27] <teward> neopsyche: won't work if he's on EC2
[21:27] <neopsyche> Ok
[21:28] <teward> testerbit: are you running into this on an EC2 system?
[21:28] <testerbit> teward: yes
[21:28] <neopsyche> ok
[21:28] <teward> testerbit: so I assume command line only?
[21:28] <testerbit> yes
[21:28] <neopsyche> teward: please take over.
[21:29] <Bashing-om> testerbit: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors <- list of the mirrors .
[21:29] <testerbit> That server is the in same region as the ec2 instance and it pings back from my local machine
[21:29] <teward> testerbit: you will have to modify /etc/apt/sources.list manually then.  try replacing us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com with us.archive.ubuntu.com.  note you may get higher data in out charges
[21:31] <zombor> can anyone point me in a direction on how to connect to a l2tp vpn on 14.10? i have strongswan installed, but it doesn't seem to support l2tp
[21:31] <testerbit> toward, does it sound like an issue with the mirror or my local confguration that is not letting me connect?
[21:32] <teward> testerbit: could be either - start by using another mirror
[21:34] <teward> testerbit: impossible to tell right now from the symptoms you've explained so far (also consider using my actual name with a highlight)
[21:34] <hkrrsx> testerbit: teward Perhaps this could be of use .... http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me-or-choose-a-faster-mirror
[21:34] <testerbit> toward would I comment out the existing or just insert a new line ahead of it?
[21:34] <teward> testerbit: comment out existing
[21:34] <teward> hkrrsx: might not help on EC2 - you can get charged a higher data transfer cost per data unit they bill by
[21:35] <teward> hkrrsx: using the .ec2.archive.ubuntu.com ones will likely 'fix' the problem and use the EC2 archives, but... :/
[21:35] <hkrrsx> Indeed.
[21:37] <acz32> is it possible to kill an application and prevent it from restarting immediately? mate-panel won't go away. i'm trying to use xfce4-panel instead
[21:38] <EriC^> you should probably disable it from starting in the first place
[21:38] <testerbit> teward: I have to open the file as sudo in  order to write it?
[21:38] <acz32> that doesn't seem possible. it's not in the list of startup applications
[22:00] <hkrrsx> Sorry, apartment lost power
[22:01] <daftykins> you need to chain it up, can't escape then
[22:02] <teward> testerbit: yes you do, sorry i disappeared due to internet problems
[22:03] <Akko-R> Hello
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> teward  use irssi with screen on unixssh.com and you'll never be disconnected anymore
[22:04] <testerbit> teward: thanks
[22:04] <teward> MonkeyDust: wouldn't help - internet was down here on site, still wouldn't have access :P
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[22:06] <Akko-R> Sorry everyone..ignore that
[22:07] <Akko-R> Does anyone talk on here? or just change nicks and disconnect.
[22:08] <hiexpo> Akko-R, just ask your ? what you need help with this is not a social site
[22:08] <k1l> Akko-R: this channel is support only. for chit chat please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:08] <Akko-R> Ohh...My bad..should have read the topic..
[22:13] <nashant> I've found out how to force a resolution higher than your screen is supposed to go and then scale it down. And it's unbelievably easy. xrandr --fb WIDTHxHEIGHT. Wish I'd found that yesterday
[22:19] <daftykins> nashant: some of us were saying for you to look at xrandr ;)
[22:19] <daftykins> days ago
[22:19] <nashant> I did!
[22:19] <nashant> And I tried many things
[22:19] <nashant> but I had no idea about this --fb thing
[22:20] <EriC^> i'm slightly confused about the set resolution and scale down thing
[22:20] <EriC^> also i've got a stupid question about frames
[22:22] <EriC^> the stupid question is, if the screen's refresh rate is 60hz that means it changes 60 times per second right? so how can i view videos that have 400frames per second or so on youtube
[22:24] <EriC^> i guess refresh rate doesn't mean what i thought it meant?
[22:30] <neopsyche> Something like that eric
[22:30] <EriC^> google defines it as The refresh rate on your HDTV indicates how often the television changes the display of pixels per second.
[22:30] <neopsyche> yes
[22:31] <EriC^> so i still dont get it..
[22:31] <neopsyche> i = interlaced
[22:31] <neopsyche> p = progressive
[22:31] <neopsyche> progressive draws the whole picture if 60 @60x per second.. etc.
[22:31] <neopsyche> if interlaced.. redraws lines at 60fps (interlaced is more complicated.)
[22:31] <neopsyche> (but interlaced essentially the same thing)
[22:32] <neopsyche> basically not sure what you are needing.. but.. higher rate = faster looking video.. (ie: sports look great at higher refresh for example F1 racing)
[22:32] <wlodpolm> interlaced mode is to use less processing power to draw the screen, and some 3-d headsets also use two interlaced streams to save on hardware cost
[22:32] <EriC^> so the tv is in fact not changing the whole frame at 400fps when i watch the videos? it's changing parts of it?
[22:33] <neopsyche> But for movies etc.. many people still prefer 24fps (approx) because we have become accustomed to that speed.. otherwise some have said at 60fps movies and tv look 'unnatural'
[22:33] <anew> i have a very strange problem... i have 3 lines in my crontab file - but only the first line runs.  if i comment out the first line... then only the second line runs
[22:33] <anew> why is my crontab only reading the first line every time?
[22:33] <neopsyche> Eric.. higher Hz /Fps = smoother (but not necessarily more "natural")
[22:34] <neopsyche> Eric.. if interlaced = parts (but redrawing lines at that speed) if P for 'progressive' meaning .. yes redraws entire frame
[22:34] <neopsyche> (this is my basic understanding of it)
[22:34] <neopsyche> eric.. google it.
[22:35] <EriC^> ok thanks
[22:35] <EriC^> anew: can you type crontab -l and paste in paste.ubuntu.com?
[22:35] <nashant> EriC^: I've got a 1080p 23 inch screen, and I wanted to fit more on it (better for coding, I find), so I set it to 2560x1440 and it scales so that it fits on the screen
[22:36] <nashant> Now I've got to try and battle with changing the keyboard layout from en_us to en_uk in an nx session
[22:36] <EriC^> nashant: oh ok
[22:36] <neopsyche> eric.. what do you actually need rate for ? higher or lower?
[22:37] <anew> EriC^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10858669/
[22:43] <anew> you ther e
[22:43] <EriC^> neopsyche: nothing, i was curious, i thought the refresh rate meant how many times it changed per second
[22:44] <EriC^> and i watched some slow motion videos at really high fps and thought how's that possible
[22:45] <EriC^> anew: it looks ok, check /var/log/syslog to see if the cron job is running
[22:47] <anew> EriC^,  it's running, the uncommented out line runs, but as soon as i uncomment another line that second line wont run - only the first line always rusn
[22:49] <neopsyche> eric.. refresh rate is how many times it draws per second yes.
[22:50] <EriC^> i think i get what i was confused about
[22:51] <neopsyche> in the lower hz.. frames.. it creates in our perception either smoother (more fluid) or more jittery image.. so to the person who is into this sort of stuff.. it makes a difference.
[22:51] <neopsyche> checkout 60fps on youtube vs standard framerate to get an idea
[22:51] <EriC^> the camera that took the video was 1000fps but i'm actually watching it at a normal rate, it's just that the video is in slow motion
[22:51] <neopsyche> right.
[22:51] <neopsyche> exactly
[22:51] <neopsyche> its all maths ;-)
[22:52] <neopsyche> and all those mathematics have an effect on our perception / brain ;-)
[22:52] <neopsyche> but higher frames per 'second' gives a smooth playback.
[22:52] <neopsyche> youve got it ;-)
[22:52] <EriC^> i see
[22:53] <neopsyche> Notice in example.. 60 fps video vs normal video  (play in chrome.. not available in firefox and some other browser)
[22:53] <EriC^> yeah, the mystery is solved :P
[22:54] <neopsyche> for a comical example.. see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWlevAblzBg
[22:54] <neopsyche> Open in Chrome.. and use the HD 60 version ;-)
[22:54] <neopsyche> It looks so smooth.. too bad there are hardly any 60fps nature videos etc on YT. (true 60 fps)
[22:55] <EriC^> lol
[22:58] <EriC^> neopsyche: yeah it's a lot smoother, interesting video
[22:59] <tnkhanh> should I install a tarball into /usr
[22:59] <tnkhanh> hm guess not
[23:00] <neopsyche> no worries eric. its actually pretty interesting when considering creative concepts in film making. But otherwise.. just down to personal perference. :-)
[23:02] <oneguy> hello
[23:02] <oneguy> i have a problem downloading zorin-32 bit
[23:03] <k1l> oneguy: contact the zorin support.
[23:03] <oneguy> i tried
[23:03] <oneguy> thier irc is dead
[23:03] <k1l> we cant help you with zorin
[23:03] <k1l> well, if you want ubuntu support, use ubuntu :)
[23:04] <oneguy> dang it, i thought since zorin wa a distro of ubuntu, you had an idea
[23:04] <EriC^> neopsyche: yeah, i meant it's way smoother than the old tv footage and stuff, but it still slightly stalled sometimes, i guess 120hz would be crystal clear, but yeah i think it depends on what you're filming to get a desired effect
[23:05] <EriC^> and feel for the movie
[23:05] <neopsyche> yes. also.. some people feel that it 'takes away' from traditional look of movies.. so.. your movies etc.. end up looking like a soap opera standard tv show. (because the frame rate is higher)
[23:05] <neopsyche> exactly.
[23:05] <neopsyche> Congratualtions Eric. you are now officially a framerate nerd ;-)
[23:05] <neopsyche> :-D
[23:05] <EriC^> lol :D
[23:10] <EriC^> thanks neopsyche you've been very helpful, i'm off to bed, good night
[23:11] <neopsyche> No prob. Sleep well, keep well. Thanks for supporting Ubuntu. :-)
[23:28] <adoniscik> is it possible to deprecate or remove a particular repository from a PPA?
[23:28] <neopsyche> Yes
[23:28] <neopsyche> Oh.. sorry I thought you meant .. remove PPA
[23:29] <neopsyche> Unless you rebuilt the PPA somehow perhaps
[23:29] <neopsyche> But you can selectively install from PPA if I am not mistaken. using additional information when installing.
[23:29] <adoniscik> how I can stop apt-get from seeing updates from that unwanted repostiory?
[23:30] <neopsyche> So for example.. install XBMC from PPA which allows nightly etc.. but you can select version.
[23:30] <adoniscik> suppose I have several matching PPAs
[23:30] <k1l> adoniscik: remove that ppa
[23:30] <neopsyche> yes remove ppa
[23:30] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[23:30] <adoniscik> but I want the other repositories in that PPA
[23:30] <k1l> adoniscik: you are mixing repos and packages
[23:30] <adoniscik> perhaps, k1l
[23:30] <neopsyche> yes repos vs packages
[23:31] <OerHeks> keeping files from a ppa is a start of an issue in the future,
[23:34] <Fay> herro!
[23:34] <Fay> herro?
[23:34] <Fay> my systemd is broken
[23:36] <daftykins> !details | Fay
[23:36] <Fay> follygoggins you fumblebotard
[23:37] <daftykins> Fay: take yourself elsewhere if you're not going to be serious please :)
[23:37] <Fay> ubuntu != serious silly
[23:38] <daftykins> see the topic.
[23:38] <deadmund> checkout ubuntu-offtopic to be silly
[23:38] <k1l> and even #ubuntu-offtopic is no place for that, since the Code of Conduct and channel guidelines apply there, too