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pleia2there, did team reports finally (hadn't done any since December, oops)02:26
ochosimorning everyone05:56
elfymorning06:17
ochosihm, the tracker doesn't look too bad06:23
elfyochosi: nope - nothing there that's unexpected :)06:24
elfyapart from a new name \o/ 06:24
ochosia new name?06:25
ochosiyou mean a new tester?06:25
elfyyea06:26
ochosigood to see how the tester-situation has improved over this cycle06:26
ochosiour initiatives were not in vain, it seems06:27
elfyit's getting there for sure06:27
krytarikbluesabre: LP bug 1446259.14:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1446259 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "German (DE) translation not included in installed package in vivid" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144625914:37
micahgsomeone need an upload?16:11
micahgkrytarik: ^^16:14
krytarikmicahg: Yes, that'd be us - xubuntu-docs, please. :)16:14
slickymasterWorkpretty please also micahg ;)16:18
* micahg wonders why bzr tags aren't being used regularly...16:19
micahgI'm taking a look at the changes now16:21
* micahg thinks he needs more coffee before reading make files16:21
slickymasterWorklol micahg, blame krytarik 16:21
* genii makes a fresh pot of high-octane coffee and passes the mugs around16:22
micahgthanks genii :)16:22
geniiHeh, any time!16:22
* drc wonders why someone doesn't invent a coffee hookah?16:23
micahgkrytarik: new line 38 replaces the TRANSLATIONS variable as opposed to what old line 27 did, is that what is supposed to happen? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/vivid/revision/361/Makefile#Makefile16:27
krytarikmicahg: In both of those, the TRANSLATIONS variable is set - however, with the new one it's not expanded immediately - that's basically the fix.16:37
micahgright, ook16:38
micahgcan I assume we want to include the new translations updates as well16:43
slickymasterWorkyes you can micahg 16:45
krytarikmicahg: There is nothing new today so far though.16:49
slickymasterWorkwhat about that string in ES krytarik?16:50
slickymasterWorkThe one about mentioning the risks of password reuse more clearly that sidi reworded 16:51
krytarikslickymasterWork: Trickled in with this morning's sync already - along with some FR stuff.16:51
slickymasterWorkooh, ok16:51
* slickymasterWork will have to create a spreadsheet to keep tags of krytarik's daily doings 16:52
slickymasterWorkknome did you forget https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/vivid/+pots/desktop-guide/fi/+translate?show=untranslated16:57
slickymasterWorkelfy, in your opinion is bug 1445622 sufficient to mark a Live Test as failed?17:07
ubottubug 1445622 in gvfs (Ubuntu) "Trash directory unable to be found" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144562217:07
elfynope17:08
micahgkrytarik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10857109/17:08
slickymasterWorkmy thoughts exactly 17:08
micahgok, will finish review and upload after coffee17:12
flexiondotorgelfy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mate/+bug/144352517:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1443525 in ubuntu-mate "liblibsmb segfaults browsing Windows Shares with Caja or Nautilus" [Undecided,New]17:13
flexiondotorgelfy, Does that affect Xubuntu?17:13
pleia2knome: thanks, I'll post to other social medias17:22
knomepleia2, cheers17:27
knomeslickymasterWork, no, i just didn't get to it yet17:27
slickymasterWorkI was sure you wouldn't forget it knome 17:28
knomei can likely handle it now...17:28
slickymasterWorkgreat knome 17:29
elfyflexiondotorg: no idea - no way to tell either17:31
elfyslickymasterWork: imo - if a file was still after rebooting a livesession - that might be sufficient to mark something17:32
slickymasterWorkwell that was on a live session17:33
elfyyes - but it wasn't there when it rebooted17:33
slickymasterWorkI passed the test but did marked the bug17:35
elfyyep17:37
knomeslickymasterWork, pushed a new revision with the updated translation17:42
slickymasterWorkgreat knome, everything is now as it should be :) 17:44
slickymasterWorkelfy what is the bug number for the the "vivid  fails to shutdown or reboot at end of installation when "reboot now" issue?17:47
elfy144558717:47
slickymasterWorkdanka17:47
elfyfix commited, so I'll be expecting a rebuild soonish17:47
slickymasterWorknot just yet :P17:48
slickymasterWorkmicahg if you haven't upload yet, can you please take in consideration -> [18:42] <knome> slickymasterWork, pushed a new revision with the updated translation17:52
slickymasterWorkso the FI translation would be 100% translated17:53
micahgok, will do17:53
slickymasterWorkgreat, thanks for that17:54
micahghrm, I'm not seeing any difference in the languages updated between the builds, but I am seeing the new German files19:28
krytarikmicahg: Yeah, they're currently in an automatic import loop. :P19:30
elfywell that's all the uprades and installs with at least a smoketest done now19:32
elfylooking good for rebuilds and the tracker being empty next :)19:32
micahgok, I guess I'll upload what we have as it fixes the critical bug19:34
elfyhi micahg 19:34
micahgsorry, was using wrong tool to check the file size differences19:34
micahghi elfy 19:34
micahgkrytarik: any reason not to upload19:36
krytarikmicahg: No, why would there? :)19:37
micahgidk :), ok, pushing the button, I'll also have a merge for the updated changelog19:37
krytarikYep, thanks.19:37
krytarikmicahg: Oh, because we were moving target this evening - no, should be all now. :P19:40
micahghttps://code.launchpad.net/~micahg/xubuntu-docs/15.04.2-changelog/+merge/25685619:41
krytarikslickymaster: ^19:42
astraljavaelfy: ochosi: I'm thinking that my HDD is just incredibly slow. Otherwise the installation seems to progress in a fairly expected way, but when it starts copying files, it grinds nearly to a halt. Still, I'm expecting this to finish in about an hour, if the progress bar holds true.19:43
elfyastraljava: thanks :)19:43
ochosiastraljava: right, sounds like "fun"19:44
ochosii presume you're not using this laptop for anything else19:44
elfynot currently ... 19:45
astraljavaOther than listening to music on Spotify, and chatting here, no. 19:47
astraljavaI even reinstalled virtualbox packages, and did a fresh dist-upgrade, with a reboot prior to starting this. So it's as good as it can be. :)19:47
astraljavaThe playlist I'm listening to is stored offline, so it's not using network for that. I do presume it still polls for some other operations, though, but probably not in intervening amounts.19:49
astraljavaNot all RAM is used, and none in swap.19:50
Noskcajbluesabre, Are there any thunar fixes we should backport to vivid?19:50
astraljavaOkay, well it seems to work nicely now after all. Thanks for your patience and assistance! :)20:33
knomeeh.20:43
knomethis is why i never upgrade via the GUI20:43
knomenow something is or isn't happening and i have no clue, since the GUI is gone.20:44
knomeastraljava, did you upgrade the way the iso tracker told to?20:48
astraljavaUpgrade? You mean after the installation?21:08
knomeoh, i thought you were doing an upgrade21:09
knomenvm21:09
astraljavaI'm not exactly doing this by the tracker books, as I gathered those tests were already concluded, no?21:09
knomenooo.21:09
astraljavaOh.21:09
astraljavaSo you mean I should report this?21:10
knomewell depends on your ISO21:10
knomemost likely yes21:10
astraljavaIt's desktop i386 straight install.21:10
knomefrom which day?21:10
astraljavaNothing fancy.21:10
astraljavajaska@glencoyne:~/Documents/Xubuntu/images 00:11:26 $ ll21:11
astraljavatotal 99430821:11
astraljava-rw-rw-r-- 1 jaska audio 1018167296 Apr 18 00:20 vivid-desktop-i386.iso21:11
astraljavaSo it's quite dated.21:12
knome20150417.121:12
astraljavaIs that good?21:12
knomethat's the current target21:12
astraljavaOk, I'll check the tracker, then.21:12
knomeit's most likely good21:13
astraljavaAfter the vm done updating initramfs... *sigh*21:13
knome;)21:13
astraljavaYeah, it's much swifter this way, fresh after a reboot, but it's still not fun per se.21:13
knomeper se indeed21:14
astraljava*smirk*21:14
slickymasterthanks micahg 21:28
slickymasteroh and btw micahg, the bzr tags weren't use, in this case, because unusually the bug just got filed after the fix have been commited21:35
Unit193So the changelog for xubuntu-docs was fixed, no?21:46
Unit193Good, it was.21:46
bluesabrethanks for picking that up micahg :)21:52
bluesabreNoskcaj: as far as I know, we've picked up the major one at least21:53
bluesabreUnit193: hola21:56
Unit193Howdy, bluesabre.21:56
bluesabrehow's it going?21:58
Unit193Uhh, compared to last week?  Well enough.  You?22:00
Unit193Got too much stuff I don't want to do.22:02
bluesabre:)22:03
bluesabreI can relate to that22:03
micahgbluesabre: sure, np22:05
bluesabreNoskcaj: ah, only just noticed that there was a new thunar release... well that may change my answer :)22:34
knomethere seems to be some wonkyness in lightdm, probably related to the dualmonitor setup22:59
knomei'll have to investigate this later when i have better time and am less tired22:59
knomeit seems unrelated to the upgrade itself though, so not noted anything about that there22:59
knome(everything *works*, just not perfectly)22:59
knomebluesabre, you ever had a fast blinking cursor on lightdm?23:00
knomei believe it's loading something23:00
knomeit might be doing some race conditions23:00
knomethe dual-monitor layout is not correct when it first loads (eg. mouse wraps to right monitor when i drag it over the left border of the left monitor)23:01
knomethen it does that blinking/twitching23:01
knomeand then resets to the right layout with the user-specific wallpaper23:01
bluesabreknome: I've heard of a completely white screen issue which goes away by clicking or specifying a default monitor23:07
knomenope, not that23:07
knomei can see the default plymouth wallpaper23:07
knomeand the login box and more23:07
knomethe layout is just wrong23:07
ali1234what video driver?23:08
knomeand - i'm not sure abuot this - but it's possible i can't type before this loading has happened23:08
knomenvidia23:08
ali1234proprietary?23:08
knomeyes23:08
ali1234and you have a xorg.conf which contains your monitor layout?23:08
knomei've tried both with and without it23:08
ali1234does the wrong layout persist after login?23:09
knomeno, it is correct after it has done that twitching thing, as i've said23:09
ali1234what if you log in fast? ;)23:09
knomewhat if i can't type before it has loaded the right layout?23:09
ali1234well23:10
ali1234the last time i saw wrong layout in lightdm it was caused by gsettingsd23:10
ali1234what happens is that xorg uses xorg.conf if it exists, but gsettingsd will attempt to load the user's layout from monitors.xml23:11
ali1234if it cant do that it will reset the layout to defaults, which are probably wrong23:11
knomelikely...23:11
ali1234i cannot explain how the layout could be wrong when it loads up but then gets corrected23:11
ali1234because xorg always uses xorg.conf... obviously23:11
ali1234and things like gsettingsd only load up afterwards23:12
knomei mean, my right hand side is connected to the first port (whatever that means), so i guess that's the first guess for the leftmost one23:12
ali1234but perhaps if your xorg.conf is wrong (maybe gpu-manager deleted it again?) but your monitors.xml is right... that could be the cause23:12
ali1234no, it does not matter which port things are connected to23:12
knomewell i also tested without a xorg.conf23:12
ali1234nvidia doesn't work like that. the default layout is determined by the type of monitor connected23:12
ali1234which is stupid because it means the monitor used for the bios is fixed regardless of which port you connect your monitors to23:13
ali1234but there's nothing we can do about that23:13
ali1234so... if you have no xorg.conf, what layout do you get?23:13
knomeboth xorg.conf and the gsettingsd conf (if that's what the xfce display dialog handles) are correct23:13
ali1234no, xfce display dialog does not use gsettings23:14
ali1234which is why the idea of gsettings always trying to load monitors.xml is so roken23:14
ali1234because gsettings doesn't even load in xfce, but lightdm loads it for a few things23:14
ali1234and it tries to reset your monitor layout by default23:14
ali1234i reported a bug about this ages ago and i think it was fixed23:14
ali1234i will try to find it23:15
ali1234bug 128361523:15
ubottubug 1283615 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "gnome-settings-daemon trashes monitor config" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128361523:15
ali1234so i discovered that ug because i ran unity-greeter to test something instead of gtk-greeter23:17
micahgBTW, someone will have to poke the release team to get the new xubuntu-docs accepted and then respin ISOs (can we do our own respins?)23:17
ali1234gsettingsd actually has modules for various things, and monitor layout is one of them23:18
ali1234lightdm doesn't load the monitor layout plugin, iirc23:18
ali1234sorry, gtk-greeter doesn't23:18
bluesabremicahg: yeah, I think me, ochosi, and elfy can respin23:18
ali1234but unity-greeter doesnt specify modules23:18
knomeand me, but for other reasons...23:18
bluesabreand knome23:18
knomei'll leave it to you ;)23:18
knomebluesabre, again it should be everybody in ~xubuntu-release23:19
bluesabreI can poke, but usually I get ignored until I go to work ;)23:19
bluesabreknome, yup23:19
micahganything else need to be uploaded or fixed before release?23:19
bluesabrehttps://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-release/+members#active23:20
knomeali1234, thanks for the insight... i got to look at this with better time and eyes x.x23:21
bluesabremicahg: I think we're in good shape as far as I can tell23:21
micahgok23:21
ali1234this all might be a red herring. what i saw was pretty much the exact opposite of what you are seeing23:21
bluesabrethere are things to upload, but not this late in the game :)23:21
knomeali1234, yeah, i will figure out what it is what's actually happening23:22
bluesabreknome: report a bug against gtk-greeter, andrew p did change quite a few things with monitor handling in the last release23:22
knomein the worst case, i guess i can create a monitors.xml file (if that's supposed to fix this)23:23
knomebluesabre, when i've looked at it, i will23:23
bluesabrecool23:23
bluesabreI'm going to go goof off for a bit, then come back and hack on xfce stuff23:24
knomehf goofing23:25
bluesabrewill do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5wNX_mIraA23:26
knomelol, that was my mental image, literally...23:29

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