[00:31]  * zcm is installing Xubuntu on a Chromebook
[01:56] <bobbishop> does anyone know how i can create a bootable usb on xubuntu besides unetbootin?
[01:56] <bobbishop> I say besides unetbootin because arch linux doesn't really work well with arch based distros
[01:57] <Unit193> You can use dd.
[01:59] <bobbishop> what is dd?
[02:00] <holstein> !dd
[07:55] <xubuntu27w> hi guys
[07:55] <xubuntu27w> i need a small help
[07:55] <xubuntu27w> can you upload /usr/share/themes/Greybird/ greybird theme to a site for me ?
[07:56] <xubuntu27w> i changed my icons so i need it
[07:57] <ochosi> xubuntu27w: sry i don't understand, why do you need that?
[07:58] <ochosi> in case you deleted that folder, you can just do a "sudo apt-get install shimmer-themes --reinstall" and it'll be restored
[07:58] <ochosi> if you just want the theme and are not using xubuntu, you can grab the theme from github
[08:17] <xubuntu27w> thank you ochosi
[08:18] <xubuntu27w> good bye all
[08:21] <xubuntu74w> ochosi
[08:21] <xubuntu74w> i did what did you want
[08:21] <xubuntu74w> and now
[08:22] <xubuntu74w> up windowframe of thunar color is blue
[08:22] <xubuntu74w> i want it to be gray
[08:22] <xubuntu74w> how can ı change
[08:23] <ochosi> you likely have to change your window manager theme
[08:23] <ochosi> settings > window manager > set the theme to greybird
[08:26] <xubuntu74w> i thank you
[08:27] <xubuntu74w> now
[08:27] <xubuntu74w> there is a problem :(
[08:28] <xubuntu74w> titlebar is too close to menus
[08:28] <ochosi> i'm sorry, i don't really understand what you're saying there
[08:30] <Hund> xubuntu74w: I believe if you change the window title size the titlebar gets bigger
[08:30] <Hund> It's been a while since I used Xfwm.
[08:32] <xubuntu74w> anyway
[08:32] <xubuntu74w> i thank you
[08:32] <xubuntu74w> i fixed big issue
[08:32] <Hund> Good.
[08:32] <xubuntu74w> may be updates can change this
[08:32] <xubuntu74w> good bye all
[08:33] <knome> well no, the theme is designed to be like that
[08:57] <xubuntu23w> hello xubuntu room,what is a simple command to locate a specific file please
[08:57] <ochosi> try "find" or "locate"
[09:27] <tga> greetings
[09:32] <tga> I'm trying to upgrade a 14.04 to xfce 4.12 and not having much luck with the ppa
[09:33] <tga> a bunch of packages are getting updated, but as far as I can tell I'm not getting any new 4.12 features
[09:33] <tga> any tricks for upgrading properly?
[09:34] <knome> tga, the ppa is the best you can get.
[09:34] <knome> tga, if you want anything better than that, you have to build it all yourself
[09:34] <tga> thing is, I don't notice any change at all
[09:34] <tga> as far as I can tell I'm still running 4.10
[09:37] <xubuntu40w> how to change name?
[09:37] <knome> xubuntu40w, what name?
[09:37] <xubuntu40w> xubuntu40w ---> kiaph
[09:38] <knome> /nick newnick
[09:38] <tga> knome:  is there any easy way of telling which version of xfwm I'm running?
[09:38] <kiaph> glad newnick was in use
[09:38] <tga> does it show up in an about dialog somewhere?
[09:39] <knome> tga, 'apt-cache policy xfwm4' tells you the package version
[09:40] <tga> hmm maybe I should just restart, I just did a logoff after upgrade
[09:42] <kiaph> so
[09:43] <kiaph> I have to clean install , I have an alienware m14x , 5 year old laptop (optimus) , xubuntu 14 , what is best order of commands following reinstall to get nvidia card working?
[09:44] <tga> knome: are window previews on alt tab enabled by default in 4.12?
[09:46] <brainwash> tga: 14.04 already installs many components of Xfce 4.11 (the development release), so you may not notice many changes
[09:47] <kiaph> should i just get beta 2?
[09:47] <kiaph> it seems pretty stable
[09:47] <kiaph> will beta 2 update to finish product for me?
[09:47] <tga> well I'm looking at the new features of 4.12 and I can't see any of them
[09:47] <brainwash> kiaph: it's worth a try, and yes, it will update to the final version
[09:48] <brainwash> tga: window previews can be enabled in settings manager > window manager tweaks > last tab
[09:49] <tga> hmm you may be right that I've been using 4.11 the new features
[09:49] <tga> + no compositor here
[09:50] <kiaph> you think 15 will be able to use bumblebeeed /nvidia prime
[09:50] <tga> a-ha, that was it, no display compositing = no pretty features
[09:50] <kiaph> my gtx555m prettymuch needs it
[09:50] <brainwash> :D
[09:50] <tga> then I only have to enable xfdashboard
[09:50] <brainwash> kiaph: well, you have to try and see if it works fine for you
[09:51] <kiaph> i know was trying to find a postinstall guild to optimze getting nividiaprime / hybrid settings working
[09:51] <kiaph> but it doesn't seem to exsist
[09:53] <tga> mmkay, xfdashboard is kinda wonky and just crashed
[09:53] <tga> I think I'll stick with the applauncher
[09:54] <brainwash> kiaph: if you have a specific question about hardware/drivers, maybe you should ask in #ubuntu
[09:55]  * tga grumbles at no package for faenza
[10:40] <wolfdog> Hi all, this is probably a silly tiny question. .. In the settings for xfce4-terminal theres a list  of color palette presets. Where are these stored and can I add more files to it?
[10:44] <knome> wolfdog, /usr/share/xfce4/terminal/colorschemes/
[10:46] <wolfdog> knome: brilliant, found them. thankyou very much :) after some googling i was hunting through the terminal.rc, found the default declaration but none of the options
[12:25] <guest-nfDzwr> him I need Help, how can I switch to azerty keyboard?
[14:59] <xubuntu44w> hi all
[14:59] <xubuntu44w> can I ask a question_
[14:59] <xubuntu44w> ?
[14:59] <holstein> xubuntu44w: no one will stop you.. just ask, and a volunteer may assist..
[15:01] <xubuntu44w> how can I install new fonts in xubuntu?
[15:01] <xubuntu44w> I mean windows fonts
[15:02] <xubuntu44w> I tried but I have some issue becouse everytime I open a file created with microsoft word, for example, I have text changed
[15:02] <DrunkenDwarf> if you have the .ttf file this post goes through it quite simply http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=797173
[15:02] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Microsoft_Fonts
[15:02] <holstein> xubuntu44w: i wouldnt assume your inconsistency is a font issue..
[15:03] <DrunkenDwarf> What holstein linked to is much better than what I said .....
[15:03] <holstein> if you are opening a .doc in libreoffic, for example.. you may want to try saving it differently in word, or ask for a more open option, if installing the fonts doesnt address the issue
[15:03] <xubuntu44w> can I do this istruction on xubuntu too?
[15:03] <xubuntu44w> not just ubuntu?
[15:03] <holstein> xubuntu44w: xubuntu *is* ubuntu
[15:04] <xubuntu44w> ok thank you
[15:04] <xubuntu44w> I'm learing!
[15:04] <xubuntu44w> or at least trying to
[15:04] <DrunkenDwarf> aye. Ubuntu with a nicer skin :)
[15:04] <holstein> the restricted extras meta-package will contain those fonts, as well as a lot of other things
[15:04] <xubuntu44w> yes couse my pc isn't so fast
[15:05] <holstein> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:05] <xubuntu44w> I can't remember if I already did this
[15:05] <xubuntu44w> anyway I'll try
[15:05] <holstein> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[15:06] <xubuntu44w> and I have another issue
[15:06] <holstein> xubuntu44w: you can use the package manager of your choice to see if you have that package installed..
[15:06] <xubuntu44w> when I use libreoffice for opening exel files I have like visual issues
[15:06] <xubuntu44w> I can see lines where they are not present
[15:06] <holstein> xubuntu44w: sure.. when you create a file in a completely different application, you can have issues
[15:07] <xubuntu44w> and when I resize the windows those lines go away
[15:07] <holstein> sounds like a work-around
[15:07] <DrunkenDwarf> libre office is good and comes with xubuntu, but there are always others you can try too... I've found open office good when working with windows docs
[15:08] <xubuntu44w> I think it's more like a graphic card issue
[15:08] <holstein> i would create a file similar to the one you are having issues with in libreoffice, and test
[15:08] <xubuntu44w> ok I understand
[15:08] <holstein> xubuntu44w: sure, then test that, and isolate.. take a live iso to another machine with a different GPU and take the file.. open it, and see
[15:08] <xubuntu44w> ok I have to try
[15:09] <xubuntu44w> I have a lot of files created under windows
[15:09] <xubuntu44w> so often I need to check them and read them
[15:10] <holstein> sure.. but, you will really be setting yourself up for failure to expect all of that to just automatically translate to another os with different software
[15:10] <holstein> all of linux and ubuntu/xubuntu are open. if someone like microsoft wanted to make sure that all the products they create were compatible with it, they can..
[15:11] <holstein> generally, libreoffice does a great job with opening docs.. there are online options as well.. google docs, and office online
[15:13] <xubuntu44w> I understand
[15:13] <xubuntu44w> I'll try for first the fonts thing
[15:14] <holstein> also, saving on the other end, compatible with older versions of word
[15:14] <xubuntu44w> and see if I can solve the problem
[15:14] <holstein> or, just wait til you have to deal with the document, and format it, in libreoffice, if needed, and save it in open format
[15:14] <holstein> get all of your docs to the open format
[15:14] <xubuntu44w> open is a format?
[15:15] <xubuntu44w> and then can I open *open with excel?
[15:15] <holstein> the format default to libreoffice is open
[15:15] <GridCube> the open format, can be odt etc
[15:15] <holstein> you can run libreoffice on windows
[15:15] <xubuntu44w> oh ok
[15:15] <xubuntu44w> that's true
[15:16] <xubuntu44w> and if I want to reinstall xubuntu
[15:16] <xubuntu44w> cause I have an old version
[15:16] <xubuntu44w> it's better xubuntu or lubuntu?
[15:16] <GridCube> you asking in the xubuntu channel
[15:16] <holstein> "better" is a matter of opinion
[15:16] <GridCube> what answer you expect?
[15:17] <xubuntu44w> that is a pc with a pentium 4 3 Ghz
[15:17] <holstein> thats basically lxde vs xfce.. and thats up to yoyu
[15:17] <xubuntu44w> and 1 gb of ram
[15:17] <holstein> xubuntu44w: no software makes your hardware faster or better.. it can make "better" use of resources
[15:17] <xubuntu44w> yes from the resources view
[15:18] <holstein> you can try lubuntu and xubuntu live, and see what meets your needs.. i think most find lxde lighter, but, maybe too light out of the box for what they need
[15:18] <holstein> they are *all* ubuntu flavors..
[15:18] <xubuntu44w> ok
[15:18] <xubuntu44w> first of all I need to know if I have graphics card issue
[15:18] <holstein> you can install lxde into xubuntu and have them both, and choose between lxde or xfce
[15:18] <xubuntu44w> cause xubuntu was asking me like for proprietary driver
[15:19] <holstein> xubuntu44w: you can try the proprietary driver
[15:19] <xubuntu44w> and it keeps loading I don't know what
[15:19] <holstein> xubuntu44w: xubuntu was offering to install one
[15:19] <xubuntu44w> yes I installed it
[15:19] <holstein> ok.. so, you can *not* do that next time, and see if the performance is "better"
[15:19] <xubuntu44w> but I have the same issue when opening sheets
[15:19] <holstein> see if the open driver meets your needs, and has less artifacts
[15:20] <xubuntu44w> ok I'll do this
[15:20] <holstein> you can test this with a live iso
[15:20] <xubuntu44w> yes
[15:20] <xubuntu44w> ty holstein you helped me a lot
[15:20] <holstein> what i typically do when migrating a new (new to me) machine to linux is, i'll just run a lot of different live iso's, and see what supports what.. see what versions are running
[15:21] <holstein> kernel versions.. drivers.. etc
[15:21] <xubuntu44w> cause I am an all doing on pc but not an axpert one with linux generally
[15:21] <holstein> at this point, i would be trying the 15.04 live version as well.. since it would be a newer kernel.. though, on an older machine, and older kernel may be "better"...
[15:22] <xubuntu44w> yes it could be
[15:22] <xubuntu44w> ok I'm going to do some tests
[15:22] <xubuntu44w> and I'll let you know
[15:22] <holstein> xubuntu44w: o/
[15:22] <xubuntu44w> ty for now guys ;)
[15:23] <xubuntu44w> have a good day
[15:33] <DrunkenDwarf> has anyone noticed that when you snap xfce4-terminal to half the screen, it doesn't actually fill it, leaves an annoying border round it.
[15:50] <jarnos> I have several guest sessions running in 14.04. How can I log then out? It seem like I always create a new session when I log into a guest session.