[00:25] Testing with the first RC Live ISO. After the I click on Try Kubuntu but before the live session starts, I see the login page for the live session user. I can simply login without a password, but I believe this is new, and unwelcome behaviour. Also Firefox seems to start with UK English. [00:26] reported here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds/92264/testcases/1303/results [00:28] Before the jokes, Systems Settings > Regional Settings gives me US English. Funny that konversation's auto spell check seems to allow both UK and US spellings. [00:33] ahoneybun: what's the best place to file a plasma5 bug? [00:38] such as what, frecel? [00:38] I would say pretty much always in bko [00:38] sometimes in launchpad [00:38] valorie: I found another notification bug [00:39] although of course lunchpad is easier using the cli ubuntu-bug packagename [00:39] exactly what happens? [00:39] valorie: http://i.imgur.com/WSiW6DI.png [00:40] you can see that the image overlaps the border of the notification [00:40] and it looks odd [00:40] yes [00:40] I guess just file against plasma [00:41] they'll figure out where exactly it should go [00:41] our packaging is not causing that, I don't think, so just bko [01:11] valorie: I'm trying to figure out which project to file against [01:12] I'm trying to decide between frameworks-knotifications and kwrited [01:27] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346419 [01:27] KDE bug 346419 in general "Images in the notifications appear over the grey border" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [03:52] frecel: I would think it should just say "Image" and not try to show it [04:32] ahoneybun: probably the best solution [05:02] thanks for your contribution, frecel [05:02] glad I could help [05:33] morning [05:34] ahoneybun, valorie what event is this about? [05:34] UOS [05:34] https://www.google.ro/search?q=uos&oq=uos&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.327j0j7&client=ubuntu&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8 [05:35] Ubuntu OS? [05:35] [14:15] Hello all! I'm looking for someone who might be willing to volunteer in giving a demo of the Plasma 5 desktop and show off the general KDE5 newness at UOS 15.05. It's happening May 5th - May 7th. [05:35] [14:15] or demo anything else you might find interesting and cool and worthy of sharing. There's lots of neat stuff happening in the KDE world, and we have a 'show and tell' track that is perfect for 5-10 minute demos [05:35] Ubuntu Online S....? [05:35] something [05:35] Summit? [05:35] right [05:36] it's the replacement for UDS where we all used to meet [05:36] now it's all in hangouts [05:36] oh [05:36] ok then [05:36] I thought of you because you are getting expert at that [05:36] ahoneybun: we'll have to set up a script [05:37] this is supposed to be pretty and organized [05:37] not like my show [05:37] :P [05:37] but you are getting good at it, and this is a few weeks off [05:38] I'm in holydays between 29 and 4 [05:42] well, balloons wrote to the list [05:42] surely we can come up with someone [05:51] he said 5-7th may [05:51] I'll be here in the 5th [07:14] Good morning. [07:39] rad [07:39] kde-dev-scripts repo has unstable and stable despite not being kf5 [07:41] oh it is kf5 [07:42] ah, no one enabled it for CI -.- [08:16] on current 15.04: kwin is crashing when waking up with a monitor attached which was not attached when putting it to sleep. This also makes the lock screen go away for a while and reveals the desktop. If the monitor is attached after waking up, however, all is fine. [08:27] Open an image in gwenview (on Vivid) and drag that image into another window(dolphin, firefox, chrome, anything) [08:34] Riddell: baloo continues to be red [09:40] hola chicos [09:40] hi vip [09:41] !testers | vivid final candidates! [09:41] vivid final candidates!: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31 for information [09:41] Tm_T: can you add vip to that? [09:41] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds [09:51] hi Riddell [10:01] yofel: did you think bug 1445383 was a general problem? [10:01] bug 1445383 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "Akonadi server is broken after mysql update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445383 [10:05] Riddell: sure, one moment [10:06] amusing support e-mail du jour https://paste.kde.org/ [10:08] Riddell: that error is useless without the output in mysql.err [10:08] FWIW, I'll drop a question in #akonadi if they heard of general issues with mysql 5.6. The amount of reports we get is worrying :/ [10:09] ubottu: no !testers-#kubuntu-devel is /neo31/neo31, vip/ [10:09] I know nothing about !testers-#kubuntu-devel yet, Tm_T [10:09] ubottu: no !testers is /neo31/neo31, vip/ [10:09] I know nothing about !testers yet, Tm_T [10:09] oh my [10:10] done [10:14] Riddell: hm, there's new info on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/1437846 too [10:14] Launchpad bug 1437846 in mysql-5.6 (Ubuntu) "akonadi mysql 5.6 crash with signal 11" [Undecided,Incomplete] [10:19] Riddell: I hope to be able to test this afternoon or somewhere tomorrow. [10:20] "The vote entitled "Scarlett Clark e.V. Membership" will close at 2015-04-21 13:30:26 +0000" quick vote e.v. members! [10:40] HI folks [10:42] hey BluesKaj [10:43] hi Blizzz [10:44] BluesKaj: if you're interested: the ugly menu on titlebar click was kind of fixed by setting the GTK 2 Theme(!!!!!) from Clearlooks to oxygen-gtk. It makes other Qt/KDE 4 apps look far better. [10:44] good :) [10:45] Whoo, iso downloaded. Time to fire up a vm :) [10:45] lordievader: could you check for bug 1445383 and bug 1443667 [10:45] bug 1445383 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "Akonadi server is broken after mysql update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445383 [10:45] bug 1443667 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer crashes installing libreoffice" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443667 [10:45] fire up ? heh [10:45] they're the ones that are on my radar today [10:46] are testcases closed? [10:48] ahoneybun: what does that mean? [10:48] Riddell: I can't file anymore [10:49] Riddell: Sure thing. [10:50] now its back [10:50] oh new images [10:52] that's why is was off for a bit [10:52] Riddell: Can bug 1445383 be tested in a live environment? [10:52] bug 1445383 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "Akonadi server is broken after mysql update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445383 [10:59] lordievader: dunno probably [11:00] Is the live-session broken in Qemu? It freezes at this screen: http://corellian.student.utwente.nl/files/vivid.png (that is after pressing the live session button). [11:01] not that I know of [11:01] I got a blank screen after selecting Try Kubuntu on today's 32-bit ISO (good checksum) copied to a usb using unetbootin. Is there an existing bug I should link to. I will try in a VM to see if it is my HW. [11:04] mparillo: not that I know of [11:04] * lordievader wonders how he should report this bug [11:05] OK, I will try in a VM and if it passes, I will assume it is my HW / unetbootin (but it has never failed that way before). [11:06] lordievader: tricky one it could be anywhere, you probably need to start up X and plasma manually and see what breaks [11:06] mparillo: did we already put thise on wire? http://www.ocsmag.com/2015/03/13/plasma-is-my-new-favorite-desktop/ [11:06] Riddell: I'll investigate tommorow if that is okay, I don't have a lot of time today. [11:07] are we not using baloo in Vivid? [11:07] why is it not installed by default? [11:08] ovidiu-florin: it is, what makes you say it's not? [11:09] $ aptitude search baloo [11:09] p baloo - transitional package for baloo [11:09] Riddell: ^ [11:10] I see that baloo-kf5 is installed [11:10] I can't get the advanced baloo menu [11:10] how do I get it? [11:10] I have i kde-config-baloo-advanced [11:10] it's installed, but I get no KCM [11:12] sitter: I have a parse error, where can I see the problem at http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_stable_baloo/lastFailedBuild/console ? [11:13] ovidiu-florin: kcmshell4 kcm_baloofileadv should run it [11:13] it needs ported to kf5 [11:14] looks like it will die soon anyway https://gitorious.org/baloo-kcmadv === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [11:17] Riddell: As for bug 1443667 the installer finished correctly. Rebooting now. [11:17] bug 1443667 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer crashes installing libreoffice" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443667 [11:18] Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_stable_baloo/lastFailedBuild/parsed_console/ [11:18] lordievader: it's a weird one because ubiquity doesn't work by installing individual packages [11:18] Riddell: It uses tasksel? [11:18] Riddell: it shouldn't [11:18] lordievader: it just copies the live filesytem to the hard disk [11:18] * lordievader never looked into how ubiquity works. [11:19] Ah... that makes it a very odd bug... [11:19] Riddell: post-installl-update/language-pack-install [11:20] Riddell: Yes: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=241 [11:20] also the assertion on its own isn't quite correct ... ubiquity does install packages (e.g. grub-*), it just doesn't install most of them :P [11:20] Ah, I haven't ticket the updates checkbox. [11:20] Perhaps that triggers the bug? [11:20] All: I have replicated my blank screen on the 32-bit ISO on a VMware Player VM now as well as my HW. I get to the Try Kubuntu, click on it, and it goes blank. [11:21] The oem-config is missing from the desktop [11:23] lordievader: that one is known, bug 1444980 [11:23] bug 1444980 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kubuntu: oem-config-kde not installed on new oem systems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444980 [11:23] I think we need to accept oem isn't going to happen on this release [11:23] Check. [11:23] Running oem-config seems to work though. [11:32] sitter: if I update kubuntu_vivid_backports I should do a manual merge into kubuntu_stable right ? [11:45] Riddell: nope, backports gets automerged [11:45] you might want to see if you should merge stable into backports though [11:47] sitter: ah I didn't realise that [11:58] sitter: so how can I see what's up with baloo? [12:00] Riddell: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_stable_baloo/lastFailedBuild/parsed_console/ === greyback__ is now known as greyback [12:35] mparillo: Did you also get a black screen after installation? [12:38] Yes with last night's build (reported in the test results without a bug filed) and also with this morning's build., but it seems typical for me to have strange things happening at the end of installation. I think last time I got strange squashfs errors. I generally force down my VM, and it comes up normally. I am testing that now with the latest build. [12:38] I also opened a launch bug 1446622 for my blank screen in the live session and attached it to this morning's test result. [12:39] bug 1446622 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Live USB boots to blank screen on Try Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446622 [12:51] lordievader: But after forcing down my VM, it came up nicely as usual. Only thing I noticed is that Firefox defaulted to UK spellings, despite my System Settings all pointing the USA. Now I know that FF does not play nicely with KDE, and I generally install rekonq and Chrome and seldom use it, but it was the first time I noticed this. [12:51] Hmm, I'll poke some more at it later today or tommorow. [13:01] sitter: what's your secret way of doing a git --copy or something for moving to a new git repository (for plasma-mediacenter) [13:03] Riddell: clone --bare && push --mirror -> https://help.github.com/articles/duplicating-a-repository/ [13:04] so in case of pmc for example: git clone --bare debian:kde-extras/plasma-mediacenter && cd plasma-mediacenter && git push --mirror debian:plasma/plasma-mediacenter [13:09] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.2.95_vivid.html plasma 5.3 beta ready for testing [13:09] !testers | ↑ [13:09] ↑: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip for information [13:10] Riddell: sure, later at home :) im a bit scared to test it here at work [13:10] live life on the edge! [13:11] yes, tell it to my boss later when i break my PC :D [13:11] you're running vivid, what could happen :P [13:12] :) [13:19] konversation crashing after wakeup, qtcreator too. not that great upgrade experience :( [13:20] Blizzz: do you have the vlc-phonon backend installed [13:20] ? [13:20] Blizzz: do you have a backtrace for konversation? [13:22] darthanubis: yes, it is installed. gstreamer is activated though (and vlc oes not show up there). shall i remove? [13:22] Sho_: not this time unfortunately [13:23] Blizzz: yes remove and see if konversation still crashes [13:24] darthanubis: i will try, thank you for the hint [13:24] np [13:24] let us know how it goes? [13:25] darthanubis: you recommend re-login (or even restart)? [13:25] mighnot have to do any of that [13:25] be re-login at most [13:26] but [13:26] * darthanubis ugh coffee not working yet [13:27] well, i will try later than. have a call now in 2 min and need to go out afterwards. and i will keep you posted :) [13:27] coffin ? [13:27] :] [13:27] cool beans [13:27] and try quassel you'll love it! [13:28] I'm a konversation convert [13:28] did not like quassel back then, but it is some time ago when i tried it last time [13:28] darthanubis: What do you prefer about it? [13:28] the best part about it is it's core [13:29] Riddell, is this the correct ppa ? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging [13:29] I have the core running on another computer so that when I have to reboot this machine, running the client, I can reconnect and with the core still logged on I don't miss anything. the core is a bouncer like znc. [13:29] BluesKaj: kubuntu-ppa/next-staging for plasma 5.3 beta [13:30] sitter: is there a place I can look to quickly remind myself when I get confused between what kubuntu_stable and kubuntu_unstable means? [13:30] I have znc as well, which is more versatile for using any irc client. But I like quassels ease of use and layout [13:30] Riddell: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/CI#Branches [13:31] sitter: thanks :) [13:32] darthanubis: i am ok with misssing stuff. i am not a fan of reading backlogs. theres still plain old email in this case ;) [13:32] cool [13:32] I'm just nosey :) [13:32] also like to test different things out [13:33] sudo apt-add-repository kubuntu-ppa/next-staging && sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt dist-upgrade -y ? [13:33] I run quasseldroid on the nexus 7 to follow irc in bed [13:33] mparillo: last two -> sudo apt full-upgrade [13:33] I know, too much [13:36] i use it just when i need it, mostly, but not solely for work. [13:37] or any IT stuff [13:47] I presume 5.2.95 aka 5.3 ? [13:48] 5.3 beta, yes. [13:51] and once the 5.3 beta packages are installed then comment out the ubuntu-next ppa ? [13:51] err staging [13:52] right [13:53] ok thqnks [13:59] anyone else seing this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10861534/ [14:10] WTH [14:12] how did monitor hotplugging get this broken o.O? [14:14] what's broken? [14:14] I plugged in my monitor, what I got was a black monitor, and the whole whole new screen space squashed into the notebook display [14:15] like if you resize a 3000x1080 image into 1600x900 [14:16] When I try sudo apt-add-repository kubuntu-ppa/next-staging after I enter my sudo password, I get: Error: 'kubuntu-ppa/next-staging' invalid [14:16] this happened with both plasma 5.2.2 and 5.2.95, so I'll blame the kf5screen 5.9 update [14:16] "Oeeeh, a new screen lets squash that in the old one!" [14:17] ah, it's 3520 x 1080 resized to 1600 x 900 [14:17] although xrandr looks fine... [14:18] http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32380705 [14:18] hm [14:18] Riddell: quite the dangerous city [14:19] mparillo, try adding the ppa by copy and paste to the sources.list then this: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A then update and upgrade [14:19] sitter: holy guacamole, and there was me innocently it was a paradise for anarchist vegans [14:20] mparillo: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-staging, not just kubuntu-ppa/next-staging [14:24] Riddell, interesting where does an anarchist guy his/her veggies ? :) [14:25] err buy [14:26] Thanks BluesKaj, but yofel's way seemed easier. Jellyfish are in danger. [14:27] mparillo, yeah , it is easier :) [14:28] BluesKaj: barcelona has a vegan supermaket, but mostly we just occupy abandoned buildings and have thrash concerts [14:29] sounds like heaven I have to admit [14:30] Riddell, I'm kind of out of the loop ...wth is a thrash concert ? [14:31] not too sure, but it was loud whatever it was, good thing it was 3 floors underground https://twitter.com/jriddell/status/589567592228085760 [14:33] guess we'll be having oversized images for vivid [14:33] ok .looks pretty ordinary to me ...anyway the 5.3 beta upgrade here seems fine [14:41] BluesKaj: lovely [14:42] BluesKaj: new wallpaper all good? [14:49] 6 [14:51] Riddell, yes, i use my own wallpaper fromthe photos file, all is fine [14:52] then you're missing one of plasma's best features, the slowly increasinably trippy wallpapers :) [14:52] increasingly [14:52] oh really, then I'll have toicheck them out [14:54] I'm wondering when the changing weather wallpaper will be added from KDE4x. Probably when marble gets fixed in KDE 5x? [15:00] I got new wallpaper and kinfocenter reports 5.2.95, and I will report anything unusual here. [15:05] mparillo: meh I do see your problem on i386 [15:05] :( [15:20] Riddell, here's one of my nature photos/wallpaper taken at a park nearby http://pasteboard.co/2Jx22CJ3.png [15:21] I'm searching for some ssl headers package can someone help me? [15:21] I don't know in which one I can find the class x509 [15:22] it's required by kdelibs4support when compiling [15:26] how do you guys build it? [15:27] found it [15:27] fixed [15:41] mparillo: seems there's a fix to the breakage you reported, respinning to try it [15:51] Riddell: The images are still rebuilding? [15:52] Quintasan: yep (you can try current but Try Kubuntu won't work) [15:53] Alright [16:27] yofel: did you install plasma 5.3 beta? [16:36] Riddell: Thank you for respinning just for me ;-) I will re-test. Separately the 5.3 beta seems like an improvement on my home laptop real hardware, but completely useless in a VMware VM on my work laptop. The SDDM login shows zero battery (even though the host is plugged in) but after I login, the screen is unreadable and unresponsive. === prth__ is now known as prth [17:46] The queuebot says they are updated, but they are not here: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds [17:50] Riddell: yes, seems to at least not work any worse than 5.2 :) [18:06] http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-jJytQt1P.png [18:06] can something be done about this? I don't even have the package installed anymore [18:07] is it update-notifier thats broken? [18:24] darthanubis: no konversation crash this time (without re-login) [18:24] good [18:39] BluesKaj: ping [18:43] Riddell: kubuntu-desktop will be removed when upgrading to 5.3beta ? [18:43] packages marked to be removed: about-distro ksysguard kubuntu-desktop libkf5sysguard5 libksgrd5 libksignalplotter5 libprocesscore5 libprocessui5 [18:44] yofel: ^ [18:51] soee: got the same thing, but nobody else but us seems to have hit that so far [18:51] oO [18:51] I'll try to take a look later [18:51] ksysguard also ? [18:51] soee: yep, what I have here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10861534/ [18:52] ha [18:52] interestign that others dont have it\ [18:52] well, lets say that you're the 2nd person to complain ;) [18:54] so now im the bad person who complains ;D [19:02] sorry soee, I didn't notice during the install, but my desktop is still working fine afterwards [20:03] yofel: lovely, I'll move it to beta ppa then [20:04] Riddell: could you take a look at the kubuntu-desktop issue me an soee had? [20:04] that would be cool to have it fixed:) [20:15] probably needs a transitional for about-data [20:16] maybe, but ksysguard is worse [20:18] :( [20:55] Riddell, ScottK: I just pushed 0.12.1 to http://quassel-irc.org/pub/quassel-0.12.1.tar.bz2 [20:56] Sput: what's new? [20:56] Riddell, ScottK: Qt5 had a behavior change in timezone handling with postgres, which leads to the wrong timezone being written in some databases [20:56] unfortunately that was discovered only after the 0.12.0 release :/ [20:56] the fix for that issue is the only change [20:57] (so you could also just apply the patch if that's easier for you) [20:57] ok thanks [20:57] kubotu: newversion quassel 0.12.1 [20:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1446856 [20:58] the effect on the enduser is that messages from backlog can be offset by some hours depending on the timezones set on server and client (fixing this retroactively would require touching the database manually) [21:00] sorry for the inconvenience. [21:16] On all the images I am installing today, Baloo File seems to crash. Is this a known problem? [21:20] mparillo: nope [21:30] OK, then I will file a bug on my next time. Also, now on the live USB, I seem to be presented with a login panel for the live session user. Is that working as designed? I seem to recall going straight from Try Kubuntu to the live session. [21:54] mparillo: it's a known bug [21:55] bug 1362599 [21:55] bug 1362599 in Kubuntu PPA "ubiquity-dm does not transition to sddm to plasma5 desktop" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1362599 [22:07] TY. Should I add it to the test results, or does that not help? [22:10] it might help yes [22:14] TY. Added to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds/92383/testcases/1303/results/ [22:26] Plasma 5.3 beta does not seem to fix the problem where I need to enter my password before wireless connects. [22:30] that'll be kwallet not working for you [22:30] it works for me fine [22:36] TY. Is that a configuration on kwallet I need? I never needed it on Plasma 4. [23:54] * ahoneybun really needs to test a daily before the next one is put out...