=== e is now known as Guest29650 === ubuntu is now known as Guest15335 [03:31] good morning... [03:32] if i'm on y website where any file can be uploaded, normaly only images, in chrome i see a "unknown" file type: http://i.imgur.com/UMEUTr3.png, with firefox on kubuntu it's fine.. any hint? [03:32] the upload does accept only image/* mime type.. === len is now known as Guest68729 === mike_ is now known as Guest95267 === Yukkii is now known as Yukkino === kevin is now known as Guest57232 === len is now known as Guest79088 === len is now known as Guest91577 === petur is now known as Guest2888 === Guest2888 is now known as petur_ [07:14] Good morning. [07:49] guys i have a little problem with my sound can anybodypls help me? [07:50] my lenovo g50-70 laptop has a dolby sound system and on windows with properly driver it is very loud and a perfect sound. but with kubuntu the volume level is very low [07:51] bogdan: Are the soundlevels maxed out? [07:51] lordievader, yes [07:51] bogdan: Hmm, in alsamixer too? [07:52] kubuntu has alsamixer pre-installed or i need to install it? [07:52] Thought it was pre-installed. [07:52] i guess is not. [07:53] bogdan: it is a cli tool [07:53] hateball, can you pls be more specific? im new in linux and i just installed kubuntu last night [07:53] bogdan: if you're using the GUI (kmixer) icon in the tray, you can rightclick it and pick "main channel" or maybe "primary channel" [07:53] I dont run on English so [07:54] to make sure you are actually adjusting volume for the right thing [07:54] bogdan: by CLI tool I mean a tool that runs in a terminal [07:54] !terminal [07:54] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [07:55] I've had some machines where kmix would by default try and adjust volume for the wrong output [07:57] i guess is all ok [07:57] but still low sound level [07:58] bogdan: what audio chipset do you have? [07:59] bogdan: If you open Konsole and paste into it "lspci|grep Audio" what does that return? [08:00] do i need to use sudo? [08:00] nope [08:00] 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b) [08:00] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04) [08:02] bogdan: You could try overriding the volume by installing and using pavucontrol [08:03] bogdan: "sudo apt-get install pavucontrol && pavucontrol &" [08:03] Just... be careful it doesnt blow your speakers [08:03] bogdan@bogdan-Lenovo-G50-70:~$ sudo apt-get install pavucontrol && pavucontrol &[1] 5021 [08:04] bogdan: It should open a GUI for you to edit volume in [08:04] pulse audio is not install i think i need to install it first [08:05] If it's a default install it should already by [08:05] be* [08:07] well that means is not default [08:07] bogdan: Did you remove it? [08:07] do i didn't [08:07] i think it just didnt pre-installed it [08:08] bogdan: If you didn't remove it, then it is installed. In your terminal is there a command 'pulseaudio'? [08:09] bogdan@bogdan-Lenovo-G50-70:~$ pulseaudio [08:09] E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. [08:09] E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed. [08:09] bogdan: Pulseaudio is installed, and running ;) [08:10] bogdan: So do as hateball says, install pavucontrol ;) [08:14] lordievader, i just did. all ok. everything is maxed [08:20] bogdan: it has an option to allow overriding max volume [08:22] yes to 150% i think but i think 100% is better i dont want to broke it [09:11] Upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 But have a slight problem with decorations [09:12] Qt 4 applications are getting rendered in old Oxygen theme [09:12] When checked Qt4 Settings, "Breeze" is not listed in "Select GUI Style" combo [09:30] hi [09:32] ./configure --with-mysql [09:32] configure: WARNING: unrecognized options: --with-mysql [10:22] guys i have a little problem. i did sudo apt-get update and it started. but i see there many lines ignored i dunno why [10:25] anybody? [10:33] hi - will there be a PPA for Plasma 5.3 when 15.04 is out ? [10:33] the powersaving features sound good for laptops... - i.e http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/beta-plasma-5-3-features [10:36] 15.04 had 5.3 I thought. [10:36] Don't think that Plasma5 will be backported to <15.04 [10:37] lordievader: Kubuntu 15.04 has Plasma 5.2, I'm currently packagnig 5.3 beta for backports http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.2.95_vivid.html [10:37] I stand corrected. [10:39] lordievader: Riddell: thanks [10:39] bogdan__: that's nothing to worry about [10:39] hateball, are you sure? [10:39] Really liking 5.2.x also - been using it for a few weeks @ home + work - no major issues for me. [10:40] HI folks === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [11:18] what remote desktop software works with Plasma 5.x ? [11:19] I normally use X2go (its great) but that doesn't work with Plasma 5.x (or gnome 3.x) [11:19] what are others using ? [11:19] (and not VNC as that is by far the absolute worse way of doing remote desktoping..) [11:19] * lordievader doesn't remember if he tested xrdp with Plasma5. [11:20] its xrdp windows based@? [11:20] *isn't xrdp windows based* [11:21] i'm connecting from Linux desktop. [11:22] (there is an x2go update soon for plasma5.x BTW - its really is good - the speed is like being local (minus desktop effects) [11:25] It's rdp yes. [11:25] Linux can do rdp just fine. === Vito_ is now known as Vito [11:58] guys can i install steam on kubuntu? [11:59] bogdan__, yes [12:00] BluesKaj, can you plz tell me how? [12:00] download installer from steam site [12:01] and run it, it will download and install all required files [12:01] http://store.steampowered.com/about/ [12:02] steam is also in the repos/muon [12:04] 32 bit only I beleive [12:05] err believe [12:05] well i have 64 tho [12:07] it will still run fine [12:07] i installed steam and now it tells me press return to continue [12:07] which is return? [12:07] enter [12:29] bogdan__: 64bit is multilib ;) [12:35] lordievader, i am not sure i understand [12:35] bogdan__: You have both the 32bit and the 64bit version of most, if not all, libraries. Thus you can run 32bit application without problems. [12:53] can i update to the 15.04 release from the beta2? [12:55] or it's better to clean install 15.04? [12:56] Hairo: You can ;) [12:56] Hairo, upgrading is fine [12:56] !final [12:56] If you install a development version of Ubuntu Vivid and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 15.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. [12:57] oh nice, thanks [12:58] Ah, a factoid, handy :) [13:01] plasma5 is pretty cool [13:01] \o/ [13:32] kde-style-breeze-qt4 package is broken in my system. Any idea why? [13:33] The package is installed but Qt4 appliactions are getting rendered in Oxygen Theme [14:01] New question [14:01] *newb [14:01] Questions are questions ;) [14:02] running ./studio.sh ( Android Studio ) on Kubuntu14 gives error message [14:02] 'tools.jar' seems to be not in Android Studio classpath. [14:02] Please ensure JAVA_HOME points to JDK rather than JRE. [14:03] I never learn these environment settings because there are so many competing styles [14:03] or that's what I keep on telling me [14:04] I have the 1.8 Java JDK installed I just need to know hot to tell the system that JAVA_HOME = ~/Java/jdk1.8.0_45 [14:05] Blegh Java. [14:05] lordievader: Android app devel course coming up [14:05] Doesn't make Java any better ;) [14:06] I thought there would be graphical way to build apps [14:07] then again it will not do bad to remind my brain cells of their awareness of using programming langs me I got 3/3 in course Java programming in 2000 or 2001 [14:08] lordievader: yeah, yeah, I hears the field that Java is rubbish and python is kewl and haskell and ruby is nice on programmer, not nice on electricity and time [14:10] We gonna use Eclipse on the course [14:10] that's.. good for us? [14:10] Eclipse is kind of the defacto standard when it comes to Java. [14:11] I want to work in language interpreting and translation but also do some billing of clients [14:12] Last week I subscribed to a billing cooperative subscription. No cost of joining 4% of VAT zero billing + some costs from paying you salary and all the legally required payments [14:14] I'm just really rubbish at programming yet I have lot of nouns about that field [14:14] also lot of nouns in business administration study areas [14:15] Salut Kaj de Blues [14:16] lordievader: I gather the main Android simulator is in the Android Studio.. I mean no point in making many crappy implementations [14:16] I installed some plugin thing for Eclipse that does some integration with the Android Studio [14:16] jubo2: I must mention I know nothing of Android development. [14:16] lordievader: how does one set environment variables? [14:18] For the next command: SOME_VARIABLE= ; for the (terminal) session: export SOME_VARIABLE=; command [14:18] JAVA_HOME needs to be set to '/home/username/Java/jdk1.8.0_45' [14:20] Is there a complete list somewhere of special things the main uid=1000 account the Kubuntu 15.04 installer creates has? Group membership's an obvious one, etc. [14:21] lordievader: I need to put $ there right? [14:21] I have a situation where a clean install of 15.04 beta 2 (+current updates) can load KDE 5's plasma shell fine in the account it creates, but no other (e.g., an adduser(1) account with uid=1001) [14:21] jubo2: No, not for assigning variables. [14:21] also, not root account, though I guess some GUI software checks for that specifically [14:23] So far, I've both rsync -a'd the default-created account's dir+chowned it to uid=1001 user with no improvement. Also verified that if I completely delete (all files/dirs, including .* files/dirs) from uid=1000 and uid=1001 account home directories in /home, the uid=1000 account loads KDE 5 fine and the uid=1001 account does not [14:24] 'export JAVA_HOME=/home/juboxi/Java/jdk1.8.0_45' was the correct command [14:24] with spaces around the equals sign it didn't work [14:24] jubo2: No, it's bash ;) [14:25] Now the emulator says it would like KVM so it runs faster [14:25] adding the uid=1001 account to every group the uid=1000 account was in (just via vim's search/replace in /etc/group etc) doesn't seem to help, thus asking about what else changes [14:27] so apparently the 125kB download sized dpkg for Android Studio was valid [14:27] this studio 1st asked me a few questions and now it is downloading the latest studio [14:27] Soon I make cardboard sign "Not homeless but will develop Android apps for money." [14:28] should all go well [14:29] get a hat as well [14:31] aterne: What are you trying to do? [14:33] lordievader: fix KDE 5. But, I've learned that IRC is often not really great for messy things. So I'm trying to get the clean simple stuff instead that can guide a messier debug process. But if you have ideas about why the uid=1000 default kubuntu installer-created user can load the KDE shell but no other users I've created (including root user) can, regardless of home directory contents [14:33] (matching/empty/etc), I'd be happy to go that route too [14:34] How do you create those other users? [14:34] so basically, what I'm looking for is, what is the list of differences between default-created-user and any-other-user so I can fiddle them back and forth until I can replicate the issue and narrow it down [14:34] adduser [14:34] see above, I've copied group membership back and forth too [14:35] Allright and then logging in fails? [14:35] Yes. Just kind of hangs. Switch to e.g. terminal session with ctrl-alt-f1 and login (which works fine) and watch htop and nothing obvious happening [14:36] aterne: What do you get when you run startx from the new user? [14:36] (hang, to be precise: mouse moves, system works, etc, but the GUI virtual terminal gets stuck in KDE 5's aborted attempt to begin a session) [14:36] (it's not systemwide or anything) [14:38] ah, good question, hadn't tried that. And I'm not at that computer right now, so I can't. Separately, I tried setting up this in a vbox VM, but that seems to hang on install for some other reason. Not debugging that since I don't care except secondarily. [14:38] But I will try it next time I'm there [14:38] (maybe qemu will work...) [14:39] qemu-kvm works well [14:41] will definitely to get things running. still, and I get that one of the basic troubleshooting things/frustrations from the other side is 'look, just tell us/me/etc your end goal, not the misguided subgoal you have now', but, well, an alternative main goal is to be able to debug any of this. [14:41] vs being kind of this black box that just fails, with no obvious logging I can find (yeah, I've looked through every file in the uid=1000 and uid=1001 users after clear them and trying login) [14:42] but absent that, well. I need a methodogy to poke at things systematically [14:42] *methodology [14:42] aterne: Logs files ;) [14:42] Logs files are allways the first step. [14:43] Sure, and I looked for them. Does KDE log by default? [14:43] Err sometimes errors go to ~/.xsession-errors. [14:43] or is there some .profile or .bashrc or something environmental variable one needs to set per user, or is there a 'all KDE sessions everywhere on this machine log verbosely' variable? etc [14:44] Not in this case [14:44] Wouldn't be surprised if you can let KDE log to the syslogger. [14:44] I checked for .xsession-errors. Conveniently, I had previously cleared every single file in those dirs [14:44] all .files and .dirs too, so easy to spot anything there at all [14:45] okay, so that's three approaches thus far, trying to enable logging, seeing what startx does (which might keep console output more visible, too), and getting qemu-kvm running [14:47] Apart from kvm I'd say it is still one approach. [14:47] logging -> running things manually -> strace. Something like that. [14:47] Ah, and strace is easier through startx too, can trace process tree [14:53] BluesKaj: http://wiki.qemu.org/KVM says KVM is part of plain upstream qemu now? [14:54] even though there is the qemu-kvm package, which I installed... [14:55] KVM is the hypervisor, Qemu is the emulator. [14:57] Ah, well qemu is running the installer CD ISO apparently fine, but pretty slowly. Not sure if it's taking advantage of kvm [14:57] is qemu-system-x86_64 -cdrom kubuntu-15.04-beta2-desktop-amd64.iso -hda kubuntu.qcow -boot d -net nic -net user -m 3000 after installing the qemu-kvm package a reasonable way to invoke it? [14:58] ^ is the reason I use virsh ;) [14:59] Heh [14:59] can anyone tell me the right package name for flash player in kubuntu 14.04 as sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin doesnt work out [15:00] install kubuntu-restricted [15:00] stack3457: which browser are you using/ [15:00] ? [15:01] chromium [15:01] thats why [15:01] Doesn't support NPAPI [15:01] chromium does not use flash [15:01] then? :/ [15:01] install perpperflash [15:01] pepperflash [15:01] !pepperflash [15:02] !chromium [15:02] You can get testing builds for Chromium at https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa [15:02] !flash [15:02] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [15:02] thanks ! :) [15:02] np [15:03] !pepperflashplugin-nonfree [15:03] pepperflashplugin-nonfree [15:03] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/install-pepper-flash-chromium-ubuntu-14-04 [15:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash [15:04] https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer [15:04] i love Google [15:05] "The design of the Debian package for installing Pepper Flash Player is similar to flashplugin-nonfree. The difference is that flashplugin-nonfree downloads just the Adobe Flash Player, while for Pepper Flash Player the Debian package downloads Google Chrome, and then unpacks it to make the included Pepper Flash Player available for use with Chromium." is quite kludgy [15:05] I mean, not Debian's fault, but... [15:05] thankfully it does not work that way in Kubuntu [15:06] can anybody tell me how do i uninstall steam? and wipe any folder or file in it? [15:06] sudo apt-get purge steam is not working thou [15:06] bogdan__: that won't remove the games Steam has downloaded in one's home directory, etc [15:06] So it depends what exactly you want to by removing steam [15:07] how can i wipe everything that belongs to steam? [15:07] i want to remove all the steam files and folders and cs game [15:07] It spreads around a bit. Look for a ~/.steam or ~/.Steam directory IIRC [15:07] that i downloaded from steam [15:08] bash: /home/bogdan/.steam: Is a directory [15:08] It also adds some menu items, *.desktop files, etc. It's a sort of messy/involved process to track down everything, but the bulk of it's pretty easy [15:08] yeah, so removing that. I'd check first to make sure that it's really Steam, and not something else important, though. [15:11] darthanubis: how does it work in Kubuntu? [15:12] pepperflash is not married to chrome [15:12] as chrome is not in the repos [15:12] Does the pepperflash maintainer do that step themselves, or? [15:12] shouldn't be in debians either [15:12] bogdan__: the linux steam client and steamOS are still under development [15:12] you might have menat chromium [15:12] it sometimes does not work well to remove it [15:13] darthanubis: I was just copy/pasting from one of your links [15:13] So that's what some editor of the Debian wiki wrote [15:14] The other major artifact of steam is that Kubuntu seems reticent to remove the entire i386 set of packages that steam adds, so I usually go back and remove gcc-foo-base:i386 (e.g., gcc-4.9-base:i386) to get rid of them. Slightly risky though, if one also uses Skype, etc. I'm deliberately not providing easily copy/pastable commands here... [15:20] I am still getting adobe flash player is required in chromium , I did sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree [15:27] hi , im now use kubuntu how understand my graphic install secuessfully? [15:27] Good morning! === v3nd3tta is now known as v3nd3tta`` [15:29] who can help me? [15:29] farshid, I'm afraid I don't quite understand your problem, could you try rewording for me? :) [15:30] how undrestand my graphic install in kubuntu ? [15:31] farshid, I'm getting the sense english isn't your native tongue, would you mind asking in your primary language? :) [15:32] first language is Persian :D [15:33] sorry english not good :( [15:33] Go right ahead and ask in that, then :) [15:45] im have problem with wireless and graphic who can help me? === v3nd3tta`` is now known as v3nd3tta [15:46] farshid, you're having an issue with the wireless adapter and the graphics system? [15:48] im have problem with graphic and wireless in kubuntu who can help me? [15:49] FarshiD_, what's the issue you're having with the wireless? [15:50] disconnet and qus passowrd again [15:51] So it won't stay connected? [15:51] yes [15:51] sometimes qus again password! [15:52] Ok, do you happen to know what wireless card is in there? [15:53] low signal and auth password again [15:55] FarshiD_, could you run this in a command line for me without the quotes? "lspci | grep Network" [15:55] and tell me what it tells you? [15:56] 04:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [15:57] 04:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe [15:57] Alright, thanks :) [15:58] so how can fix this problem? [16:02] FarshiD_, take a look at this link: http://www.dailylinuxnews.com/blog/2014/09/install-ralink-rt3290-wifi-driver-in-ubuntu-linuxmint-elementaryos/ [16:03] ok thanx;) [16:24] ah, for the record, --enable-kvm is necessary to pass to (raw) qemu to get reasonable performance [16:24] it apparently took a full hour+ to install kubuntu otherwise (I have an SSD) [16:26] ... and I thought I had told qemu-img to make an 8G drive, not 5GB. hey at least I know how to run the installer quickly this time. [16:32] oh. I did. cute, 3GB VM guest RAM + 8GB VM guest HDD image ==> 8-3=5GB VM guest root FS. [16:34] Swap? [16:34] Yeah [16:34] remaking it, with 20GB VM [16:34] (image) [17:18] hi there, just testing kubuntu 15.04 daily in a vm and I noticed that I can't partition to a raid1 [17:18] actually, there's no raid option available at all in the installer === prth__ is now known as prth [17:22] hyperch: The only *buntu install I'm aware of which can install to raid is the server version ( and there might still be a port which uses the alternate install image as well, like lubuntu ) [17:22] I tried now the "expert" mode in the kubuntu installer but there's still no raid option [17:22] !mini [17:22] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [17:22] Unit193: is that for 15.04? [17:22] hyperch: Of course there's one for 15.04. [17:23] I see only 14.10 listed there [17:28] ha, just copy the utopic link and replace it to vivid :) [17:31] Unit193: hmmm, installer won't allow to make raid1 with 1 device [17:40] Unit193: ok, I could circumvent that by saying there should be 2 devices in the raid1 but still only provide one... :) another question is, what's the difference between kubuntu full, kubuntu desktop and kubuntu active? [17:41] hyperch: Mmm, all I know is I believe the Debian installer (like on alternates and mini.iso) do raid better than Ubiquity. As to those? I have no clue. :P [17:46] Unit193: no worries, thx for the mini though === kubuntu is now known as Guest91466 [17:50] moin [18:38] Is there a way to whitelist applications for KDE wallet? [18:39] I use Sublime Text for development and it's obnoxious to enter my password every time I push to repos. [19:04] wldcordeiro_, I just disable kwallet, perio, never use it since it's such pita for me. [19:04] I don't use it either [19:04] period [19:07] HI!! [19:07] is Vivid+1 going to have Linux kernel 3.1? [19:07] er [19:07] 4.1? [19:08] dunno , EvilRoey, I haven't checked [19:09] EvilRoey: Likely later versions, actually. [19:09] BluesKaj: That's not even started development yet, how do you plan to check? :P [19:10] Unit193, i guess I won't then ;-) [19:15] Unit193: ok, got it [19:15] BluesKaj: I understand that it typically skips 2 or 3 kernel revisions between *ubuntu releases [19:15] Unit193: ^ === 21WABYL2E is now known as jjg [20:00] i need a guide towards customizing my Kubuntu 14.04 desktop [20:01] am totally new to the linux world [20:01] can somebody help? [20:02] hmm [20:02] customizing is ambiguous soooo [20:02] * bprompt runs 12.04 [20:03] especially when you are new to a different OS [20:03] am running Kubuntu 14.04 [20:04] but facing difficulties in desktop customization [20:04] being specific helps, as in what "customizing" means in this context [20:05] please guide me as to what should i do first [20:05] clarify to yourself what is it you'd like to do, that should be first methinks, then you could concise it to us, so we can see what you mean [20:05] i mean USING KWIN 3D [20:06] seems not available for this Distro [20:06] kwin 3d? not sure I know what that is myself [20:07] okay then is there any cool alternative? === ever is now known as ever__ [20:13] hola === ever__ is now known as ever [20:13] ever [20:13] asd [20:13] as [20:15] ... [20:16] what's the difference between Kubuntu Desktop, Kubuntu Full and Kubuntu Active in the 15.04 installer? [20:16] hola Ever [20:21] hyper_ch: beats me, first time I've seen that [20:22] hyper_ch: http://askubuntu.com/questions/455178/full-description-of-different-tasksel-kubuntu-options [20:23] bprompt: thx [20:23] but what's kubuntu active [20:25] hyper_ch: its for tablets etc [20:26] I see [20:26] thx [20:26] it probably uses http://plasma-active.org/ === kubuntu is now known as Guest21690 === DNK is now known as Guest89608 [21:16] has anyone here used Kubuntu as an ESXi guest with multiple monitors? I was using this before, and suddenly all of my monitors (but primary) are no longer recongnised in the system settings. === Guest89608 is now known as Dustin === Dustin is now known as DustinK === DustinK is now known as DustinNK [21:17] Using V14.04 with lightdm [21:19] My research has thus far come up with anything concrete. [21:27] remove yumi help [21:29] how can remove yumi [21:51] !info yumi [21:51] Package yumi does not exist in utopic [21:51] Hm [21:52] !search yum [21:52] Found: botsnack-#ubuntu-offtopic*, yum, botsnack [21:53] Bah [21:55] Humbug. === Sword_Smith is now known as sword_smith === administrator is now known as Guest67409 [22:39] Hi, I'm having trouble sharing network connections. I've connected to my network via Wifi and want to share it to another box via my ethernet port. I've set up the ethernet as a shared connection but when I click on connect then nothing happens. [22:43] In Windows this is a case of highlighting 2 connections, right clicking and selecting "Bridge Connections". Shouldn't it be this easy in Kubuntu? [22:57] hello folks, is it safe to use PPA's originally meant for another *buntu distro? [22:59] that depends on the PPA [22:59] Finetundra: Another flavor perhaps? [23:00] if say, is says xubuntu-ppa/something [23:00] it is probably fine [23:00] updates, or backports etc. [23:00] but some random crap -- at your own rist [23:00] risk [23:00] valorie, so if I wanted an icon pack but I'd need to add a PPA. would that be ok? [23:01] Unit193, Why? [23:01] sure [23:02] ah, distro does not equal flavor [23:02] ubuntu is the distro, which comes in lots of flavors, like icecream [23:02] oh, I'm stupid. sorry [23:02] unity, kubuntu, xubuntu etc. [23:02] Only ice cream is much more fun to eat. More so the coffee flavored ice cream! [23:02] np, lots of people think we are separate [23:03] but we're all one distro [23:03] Unit193: kubuntu is no calories though! [23:03] also, if I were to attempt to install a DE, but it needed a PPA from another flavor, would that break anything? [23:03] and still delicious [23:03] Eww. [23:04] haha [23:04] you can use any flavor and any application you want [23:04] Finetundra: It all just depends, PPAs are "Personal package archives", so anything can be put in them at any quality. [23:05] so basically if it's from an offical flavor then It's probably ok? [23:06] yes, although there are still occasional problems if combinations haven't been tested together [23:06] but install ppa-purge package and you can always back out pretty gracefully [23:06] !ppa-purge [23:06] To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [23:06] fantastic [23:07] I would only use edgers or similar if you are very sure that's what you need though [23:07] edgers? [23:08] once you start messing with kernels and drivers etc. you can mess up your box [23:08] if you don't know, just don't mess with it [23:08] oh, I'm not about to touch anything too important [23:11] then you'll be fine [23:12] awesome [23:12] out of curiosity, is there a kubuntu offtopic channel? [23:13] There certainly is [23:13] sweet [23:14] Finetundra: It varies in there from extremely quiet to moderately active :) [23:14]