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MneuroAny word when the ubuntu-release-party for 15.04 channel will be up?02:32
alteregoayeah the release party? bugfixing?02:33
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rgb-oneHello05:54
rgb-onewhere can I search packages from the vivid vervet repository?05:54
lotuspsychjergb-one: you can use !info packagename here05:54
rgb-one:)05:54
rgb-one!info qt505:55
ubottuPackage qt5 does not exist in vivid05:55
rgb-one!info qtbase505:55
ubottuPackage qtbase5 does not exist in vivid05:55
rgb-one!info qtbase5-default05:55
ubottuPackage qtbase5-default does not exist in vivid05:55
rgb-one!info qt05:55
ubottuPackage qt does not exist in vivid05:55
rgb-one!info qtcreator05:55
ubottuqtcreator (source: qtcreator): lightweight integrated development environment (IDE) for Qt. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.1-0ubuntu9 (vivid), package size 13123 kB, installed size 55506 kB05:55
rgb-one!info qt5base05:56
ubottuPackage qt5base does not exist in vivid05:56
rgb-one!info qt5-base05:56
ubottuPackage qt5-base does not exist in vivid05:56
rgb-onecan I do this in a private window as not to spam?05:57
rgb-one!info qt5-base | rgb-one05:57
ubotturgb-one: Package qt5-base does not exist in vivid05:57
rgb-one!info qt5-base \msg05:57
ubottu'\\msg' is not a valid distribution: extras, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed05:57
rgb-onelotuspsychje: can I do this in a private window as not to spam?05:58
rgb-one!info qt*05:59
ubottuPackage qt does not exist in vivid05:59
rgb-one!info qt-base05:59
ubottuPackage qt-base does not exist in vivid05:59
rgb-one!info qt505:59
ubottuPackage qt5 does not exist in vivid05:59
rgb-one!info qtbase-default05:59
ubottuPackage qtbase-default does not exist in vivid05:59
rgb-one!info qtbase5-default05:59
ubottuPackage qtbase5-default does not exist in vivid05:59
lotuspsychje!msgthebot | rgb-one06:07
ubotturgb-one: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".06:07
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tijnixmorning06:19
hyper_chhi there, can the ubuntu 15.04 installer setup encrypted single-disk raid1?06:25
tijnixI have no idea sorry, i never use encrypted disks06:41
hyper_chtijnix: I just wish there was the alternate installer again07:07
elfyI think the mini.iso allows you to work with those - but not *completely* sure of that07:12
lordievaderGood morning.07:14
tijnixhai07:16
hyper_chelfy: raid1 on a notebook is nice07:16
hyper_chelfy: attach external usb 3.0... expand raid1 to two devices, let it sync, shrink it again to 1 device, remove external drive... have a nice backup :)07:17
lordievaderhyper_ch: LVM by any chance?07:19
hyper_chI don't believe in LVM :)07:19
lordievaderPff, LVM can do the same tricks ;)07:19
hyper_chhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10860192/07:19
hyper_chnot sure how lvm is of any help here07:20
lordievaderIn case you couldn't tell, I really like LVM ;)07:21
hyper_chlordievader: I haven't noticed07:23
hyper_chbut I still fail to see how lvm can help here07:23
lordievaderTo me LVM is a more flexible way of defining raids or partitions.07:25
hyper_chhow so?07:26
lordievaderYou can define per LV how you want it, where you want it, etc.07:27
hyper_chI still fail to see how that makes encrypted raid1 any simpler07:27
lordievaderhyper_ch: That's okay, when you mentioned raid I was wondering if it was an lvm raid.07:27
tijnixrapapa and now for the test, a copy of a production server which holds percona 5.6, openldap, and Zarafa with 1200 users upgrade from 14 to 1508:10
tijnixWhy? Cause i can08:10
lordievaderExciting ;)08:10
BluesKajHI folks10:40
lordievadero/10:40
tijnixhi10:43
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tyrogIn my ubuntu 15.04 install I have a intel microcode firmware (proprietary) that I can install optionally in "additional drivers". What is it and is it needed? thanks14:46
tyrogcodemagician: You can get the latest 15.04 from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/14:52
codemagicianthanks :)14:52
tyrogI am using it and it's great, but you can wait until Thursday if you want :)14:52
codemagicianWill it differ from the official 15.04 release on Thursday?14:52
lordievadercodemagician: It shouldn't.14:53
lordievaderIf it does, it means that things are broken badly (and have gotten fixed).14:53
codemagicianDoes the release get frozen and tested during the last few days?14:54
lordievaderVivid has been frozen for quite a while.14:55
lordievaderAnd yes, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com details these tests.14:55
codemagicianThe reason I'm using 15.04 and not 14.04.2 LTS is the hardware I'm running on requires Intel 6000 Graphics and that appears to not be supported in the LTS release (at the moment).  Will that graphics support get put into 14.04.3 LTS and if so, how long does that usually take?14:58
lordievaderDoes Utopic support it?14:59
codemagicianUnfortunately, not.  I can't even get to see the installer UI widgets to install15:00
codemagicianI had wrongly assumed that choosing an Intel i5-5250U (5th Generation processor) with Intel Graphics 6000 would be similar to the previous generations with onboard graphics15:01
codemagicianI always thought drawing basic widgets would be fundamentally the same between drivers15:01
* tijnix rubs his Ubuntu15 installation and it shines (macbook pro i7)15:04
tijnixyay workday almost over15:04
codemagicianCould someone explain to me in basic terms is it the kernel that has the support for Intel Graphics, or is it possible to get Intel Graphics support without changing kernel versions (i.e. sticking to the kernel in 14.04.2 LTS)?15:14
lordievadercodemagician: Theoretically you can run modules of other kernel version, but that is extremely messy. And your kernel needs to support it.15:16
codemagicianSo what exactly are the drivers for https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/13815/Intel-Graphics-Drivers-for-Linux-15:18
lordievaderThey allow your kernel to speak to the hardware.15:18
tijnixcan't you recompile the kernel with the needed modules enabled?15:18
codemagicianDo they get compiled into the kernel15:18
codemagicianActually, my processor isn't even on that list yet in anycase so this is a hypothetical question15:19
lordievadercodemagician: If you choose to do so, yes. Ubuntu chooses to compile most things as a module.15:19
codemagicianI'm using a NUC5i5RYH with 5th Gen i5-5250U processor (Intel Graphics 6000)15:19
codemagicianI'm just wondering how comes 15.04 works with my Intel 6000 graphics and the 14.04.2 LTS does not.  Does that mean that the Intel support is compiled into the kernel that 15.04 chooses to use15:21
codemagiciantijnix: I'm not familiar with compiling my own kernel or modules etc15:22
lordievadercodemagician: Different kernels ;)16:29
lordievaderAnd likely also different versions of the Intel graphics driver.16:29
codemagicianSo inside the kernel is code that controls the low-level operations of the onboard GPU?16:30
lordievaderThe driver is the bit of code to interface with the hardware, yes.16:31
codemagicianwhat I don't understand is why can't the drivers just be made to work with 14.04.2 LTS16:31
codemagiciandoes there need to be something inside the kernel that the drivers rely upon?16:32
codemagicianor are the drivers compiled into the kernel at that level16:32
lordievaderHmm, I guess this is why there is the option of adding modules of different kernel versions. Since it is possible to do. But rather ugly.16:34
codemagicianlordievader: Is the i915 driver right at the GPU hardware level?16:37
lordievaderCan't say.16:40
lordievaderI'm not a kernel developer or something.16:40
codemagicianSo my understanding is that 15.04 has a newer kernel and it's the kernel that supports the later Intel Graphics.  The only way to get the Intel Graphics 6000 working under 14.04.2 LTS would be to advance the kernel to a newer version (which I suppose Canonical will do in future 14.04.3? I guess)16:43
hyperchhi there, I'm just testing kubuntu 15.04 daily image and I can't setup raid1 there upon partioning17:17
hyperchis there any trick to it?17:17
hyperchI tried now the "expert" mode in the kubuntu installer but there's still no raid option17:22
alteregoai'm afraid installin 15.0422:20
alteregoawill it blend?22:21
geniiblend?22:22
alteregoai have mate desktop22:50
alteregoai had issues upgrading from 14.04 to 14.1022:50
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