| akiva-thinkpad | hi all | 04:05 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:08 |
| === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away | ||
| dholbach | dpm, thanks for following up on the help-app bug | 08:05 |
| dholbach | I passed it on to IS | 08:05 |
| dholbach | and thanks for escalating the issue | 08:05 |
| dpm | dholbach, no worries :) | 08:06 |
| dpm | thanks for following it through to publication! | 08:06 |
| dholbach | :) | 08:06 |
| dpm | dholbach, davidcalle, while reviewing, I did some minor changes on https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/webdm/ too | 08:45 |
| dpm | I've been moving the important notes I've seen in places, so that they are in visible boxes | 08:45 |
| dpm | I'll stop reviewing now, will talk to you in a few mins in the call | 08:46 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot dpm | 08:46 |
| dholbach | webdm might not be part of the release on thursday | 08:46 |
| dholbach | so we could probably deemphasise it somewhat | 08:46 |
| dholbach | or maybe let's move to #snappy | 08:47 |
| dpm | ah, good point | 08:47 |
| dpm | davidcalle, can you join us on #snappy too? | 08:47 |
| uglyandstupid | hey hey | 08:55 |
| uglyandstupid | Anyone know if it's already planned to handle dynamic language change for the translated text please ? | 08:56 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: if google is our default search engine, shouldn't we ship at least an opensearch xml file for it ? | 09:47 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro, we should, although atm custom search engine definitions are searched only in ~/.local/share/webbrowser-app/searchengines/, and we can’t install files there | 09:48 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro, we’ll need a way to install definitions system-wide, and have the code that handles that search for definitions in both places | 09:49 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro, in the meantime, default values for google are hardcoded in config.h.in | 09:49 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: apps usually provide their default files in /usr/share/ and then allow overriding or adding more via .local/share or something like that | 09:49 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: we should probably do that for the opensearch files | 09:50 |
| oSoMoN | yeah, that’s what we should be doing (and what we will be doing, when we get to it) | 09:50 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: so not part of what i should be doing now ? | 09:50 |
| oSoMoN | nerochiaro, I don’t think so, that’s out of scope | 09:50 |
| nerochiaro | oSoMoN: ok | 09:50 |
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| kalikiana | t1mp: review? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/textDocument/+merge/252798 | 10:53 |
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| mhall119 | kalikiana: please register for http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/ so I can promote you to a track lead | 11:22 |
| kalikiana | aha so now registration is open | 11:40 |
| kalikiana | will do | 11:40 |
| kalikiana | mhall119: done | 11:41 |
| mhall119 | thanks kalikiana | 11:45 |
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| SPEck | Hy all | 13:13 |
| SPEck | CAn combody help me to fix my computer to write app for Ubuntu Touch | 13:13 |
| Mirv | dpm: is there a sort of guide of what you were doing with dekko? ie entering click chroot, building something into .click in there? I'd be interested. | 13:33 |
| Mirv | basically lower level usage of SDK but for apps that are not strictly created with the SDK | 13:34 |
| dpm | Mirv, it should use the standard SDK procedures, at least that's what I did. So here's how it worked (links to documentation to follow) | 13:35 |
| dpm | 1. Had the SDK already set up with a 15.04 armhf click chroot | 13:35 |
| dpm | 2. Checked out dekko -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10861446/ | 13:36 |
| Mirv | 1. check, done via SDK :) | 13:36 |
| dpm | 3. Opened its top CMakeLists.txt file | 13:36 |
| dpm | 4. When prompted for a kit on Qt Creator, I chose the one I've got assigned to that click chroot in 1. (I've called my kit "Phone") | 13:36 |
| dpm | 5. Ensure your click chroot has got this dependencies installed: | 13:37 |
| dpm | - libqt5webkit5 | 13:37 |
| dpm | - qttools5-dev-tools (that's the one we needed to have installed in the host arch ) | 13:37 |
| Mirv | oh, 3. I didn't realize, too obvious | 13:38 |
| dpm | 6. Then under the Project tab, set this as the build options: -DUBUNTU_CLICK_MODE=on -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/ | 13:39 |
| dpm | Mirv, actually, I've told you the wrong order, 5. (install chroot deps) should go before 3. | 13:40 |
| dpm | as otherwise cmake configuration will fail | 13:40 |
| Mirv | dpm: for my test I seemingly don't need it, but yes I found "Maintain" now. is it that if you install deps there they "stay" in that kit? | 13:41 |
| dpm | Mirv, exactly | 13:41 |
| DanChapman | dpm, i've made it alot simpler now http://paste.ubuntu.com/10861469/ :-D | 13:42 |
| Mirv | dpm: this is so cool. even though this would fail miserably at the end, I had QtC do something with the project I'm testing on. | 13:42 |
| dpm | Mirv, also if your project's cmake config fails, you don't need to reload the project every time. On the project explorer, you can right-click on the top item in the tree (generally the project name) and choose the option "Run cmake". That'll re-run cmake, as the name says ;) | 13:43 |
| Mirv | dpm: that 6. sounds like magical ingredient that would be valuable to be somewhere visible, and it probably is too already somwhere? | 13:43 |
| dpm | Mirv, unfortunately, that's the only place you can do that, I agree that it's a bit hidden | 13:43 |
| dpm | DanChapman, wohoo! :-) | 13:44 |
| Mirv | dpm: I mean somewhere in docs, but I agree it'd be cool to have "clickify cmake" button or such | 13:44 |
| dpm | Mirv, ah, it's in the docs: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/sdk/tutorials/building-cross-architecture-click-applications/ | 13:45 |
| Mirv | dpm: I don't see UBUNTU_CLICK_MODE or CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX guided in there? or is either of them dekko specific? | 13:47 |
| dpm | Mirv, yes, it's dekko-specific, but DanChapman was talking about adding this to the cmake file, so that you don't have to specify it every time you check dekko out | 13:48 |
| Mirv | dpm: ah, ok. but you'd probably need the install prefix anyway if you had some other non-Ubuntuphone CMake project you'd want to try to "port"? | 13:50 |
| DanChapman | Mirv, one thing i will note. And i've never seen documentatin for is the magin UBUNTU_PROJECT_TYPE and UBUNTU_MANIFEST_PATH cmake variables. You can't build clicks or run on device without them | 13:51 |
| dpm | Mirv, the idea is that you put it on the cmake file so that it's predefined, but you can always override it if you specify it as -D on the build | 13:51 |
| DanChapman | s/magin/magic | 13:51 |
| Mirv | DanChapman: I see, thanks a lot! dekko seems to be a good source of info :) | 13:54 |
| dpm | Mirv, other apps that you can try for your tests are lp:reminders-app and lp:ubuntu-clock-app, they've also got good cmake setups that can be used as examples | 13:55 |
| Mirv | I started https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Apps/Porting for my notes | 13:55 |
| Mirv | I would have started looking at this earlier but click chroots are simply not working on my vivid machine, so I'm now using 14.04 virtual machine | 13:58 |
| _honning_ | Hi all, i am developing an app for Ubuntu Phone. But I am having trouble preventing the screen from dimming/locking while doing a simple animation on html5. | 15:43 |
| _honning_ | i was wondering if anybody has been able to turn off the screen dimming/lock on a html5 app or in a qml app? | 15:44 |
| nik90 | _honning_: curious but how long does the animation run for? since the screen starts dimming only after a minute I guess | 15:44 |
| nik90 | _honning_: apps (qml and html5) dont have permission to prevent screen dimming (yet) unless they are playing a video | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | and there is no way to stop the dimming from an app | 15:45 |
| _honning_ | yes, it runs for 8 minutes | 15:45 |
| _honning_ | so the screen lock turns on after 1 minute if i dont touch the screen | 15:45 |
| _honning_ | nike98: ok, thanks for the information | 15:45 |
| _honning_ | i was hoping something like in android: getWindow().addFlags(WindowManager.LayoutParams.FLAG_KEEP_SCREEN_ON); | 15:46 |
| _honning_ | existed but i havent found it.... | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | no, it doesnt | 15:46 |
| _honning_ | could i run a video with just the background color as a hack? | 15:46 |
| nik90 | _honning_: right now the ubuntu touch platform rules are more strict than android and as such doesn't allow apps to keep screen on or keep polling in the background | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | you would have to embed it and hook it up to the media-hub ... | 15:47 |
| * ogra_ has never used HTML5 for apps ... not sure the integration goes that deep actually | 15:47 | |
| _honning_ | nik90 and ogra: ok, thanks very much for the information, i will try to see what i can get working | 15:49 |
| nik90 | _honning_: yw | 15:49 |
| mcphail | nik90: just looking at your post about UCS. I like the idea. Have you made progress? Could this be managed as a simple git repo? | 15:49 |
| nik90 | mcphail: hi..we (myself and stuart) are intending ucs to be more like npm, pip etc where installing something is as easy "ucs install component-name" | 15:52 |
| nik90 | mcphail: just a few days back, stuart added the community channel where *anyone* can upload their component to the store without any sort of review process and maintain it themselves. | 15:52 |
| mcphail | nik90: you have a working prototype? | 15:55 |
| nik90 | mcphail: yeah for quite a while now. You can find the necessary information at http://ubuntu-component-store.readthedocs.org/ | 15:55 |
| mcphail | nik90: excellent. I'll check it out | 15:56 |
| nik90 | mcphail: you will need to first install ucs in your system and then you can help test uploading a component to the store | 15:56 |
| nik90 | mcphail: let us know how it goes and if anything seems confusing, we can improve those parts. | 15:56 |
| mcphail | nik90: will do. Thanks! | 15:58 |
| * nik90 watches the community q&a | 16:06 | |
| mcphail | nik90: do you have coding style guidelines for the UCS (tabs v spaces, camelCase or underscores etc)? | 16:21 |
| nik90 | mcphail: for curated components or community components? | 16:22 |
| mcphail | nik90: either. Presumably community components should aspire to curated status? | 16:23 |
| nik90 | mcphail: curated components should preferably stick to a common coding style guidelines but I haven't come to decide on that yet. We were first concentrating on getting the infrastructure up and ready. | 16:23 |
| mcphail | nik90: so the "reformat qml" option in the SDK would be acceptable? | 16:23 |
| nik90 | mcphail: yes that is fine | 16:24 |
| * mcphail hates camelCase | 16:24 | |
| nik90 | mcphail: basically components in the curated store are intended to be candidates for inclusion in the ubuntu-sdk itself..that's our goal..and the ucs curated store sort of is a temporary holding place to show the SDK devs that this is a good component which is liked by the community. | 16:26 |
| nik90 | mcphail: so some components that are just meant to make life easier like a blurred background header which doesnt make sense to be in the SDK is better of in the community store imo. | 16:27 |
| nik90 | mcphail: but yet components in both the curated and community store should strive to provide a good experience to app devs by providing api documentation, tests etc | 16:27 |
| om26er | t1mp, Hi! | 17:42 |
| om26er | t1mp, have the header changed recently ? | 17:43 |
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| t1mp | om26er: yes | 18:01 |
| t1mp | om26er: a lot of changes. What are you interested in? | 18:01 |
| om26er | t1mp, ah, good. I love them :) | 18:02 |
| om26er | t1mp, I was a testing a silo, just wanted to make sure it was not regressing something | 18:02 |
| t1mp | om26er: ah, you are talking about the updated visuals? Yes those changes landed today. | 18:02 |
| t1mp | om26er: there will be more :) | 18:02 |
| om26er | t1mp, do you have designs for the improvements somewhere ? or is that tracked in bug reports ? | 18:03 |
| t1mp | om26er: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1wZ09SVZPwwJOccG4Rqu5JaHDuWw051oSKjf0uJHUyO8/edit#slide=id.g8d903971d_010 | 18:05 |
| nik90 | t1mp: are those new header visuals part of 1.2? | 18:50 |
| * nik90 hopes they are ... pls pls pls | 18:50 | |
| SturmFlut | Does anybody use the SDK on an Ubuntu 15.04 desktop? It seems quite broken for me, from incorrect font sizes to crashing tools. | 19:32 |
| nik90 | SturmFlut: I have a development 15.04 laptop that seems to be fine with the latest updates. | 19:44 |
| nik90 | SturmFlut: when did these issues start for you? | 19:44 |
| SturmFlut | nik90: They started immediately after upgrading to 15.04 a couple of days ago. When starting the SDK I always immediately get a crash report from the click tool. The main UI is fine, but all the Qt file dialogs have way too large fonts. I just created a new "QML with C++ plugin" project and qmlpluginscan crashes on every run. | 19:47 |
| nik90 | SturmFlut: I have noticed the crash report from the click tool, but tbh I occasionally do get that on my main 14.04 machine as well | 19:48 |
| SturmFlut | nik90: I already tried deleting all the configuration files, to no avail. | 19:48 |
| * nik90 checks the Qt file dialogs | 19:48 | |
| nik90 | hmm it looks normal to me | 19:49 |
| SturmFlut | nik90: http://i.imgur.com/OZdID0j.png | 19:50 |
| nik90 | oh..that's bad | 19:51 |
| SturmFlut | nik90: Haha, it's not just the Qt file dialogs, but also some buttons and popups | 19:55 |
| SturmFlut | At one point a popup fills nearly all of my FullHD screen | 19:55 |
| nik90 | SturmFlut: may be somehow during the upgrade the Qt theme display ratio broke? | 19:56 |
| SturmFlut | nik90: Yes, something like that. But it looks like all other Qt applications, e.g. qbittorrent, are not affected. Just Qt Creator. | 19:57 |
| SturmFlut | Argh, not again | 20:11 |
| SturmFlut | sturmflut@fire:~$ mount | grep schroot | wc -l | 20:11 |
| SturmFlut | 56 | 20:11 |
| rickspencer3 | does anyone else accidentally close the whole emulator sometimes when they are developing? | 20:19 |
| nik90 | rickspencer3: yeah I have done that a couple of times...nowadays I develop using the phone instead | 20:20 |
| rickspencer3 | I guess you never accidentally throw away your phone :) | 20:20 |
| nik90 | hehe no..although I do get distracted and start playing with other apps during my testing :P | 20:21 |
| mcphail | I've created a type "AutoRangePicker.qml" as per http://paste.ubuntu.com/10863152/ . When I add it to a Row it clamps to the left rather than being laid out correctly. What am I doing wrong? | 20:37 |
| rickspencer3 | does anyone have a good icon for "rename"? | 20:39 |
| nik90 | mcphail: the picker clamps to the left? or the parent item? | 20:49 |
| mcphail | nik90: actually not sure, tbh. I have a row with Picker, Picker, Picker then AutoRangePicker and it overlays the first Picker... | 20:50 |
| nik90 | mcphail: change item to rectangle with color "lightgreen" or something to see what's happening | 20:51 |
| nik90 | and try anchoring the picker to the bounds of its parent..anchors.fill: parent | 20:51 |
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| mcphail | nik90: context (for what it's worth: only experimenting) at http://paste.ubuntu.com/10863320/ . Adding anchors.fill: parent only breaks the row and gets the console grumbling... | 20:57 |
| mcphail | nik90: hmm - if I add "width: picker.width height: picker.height" it works. Oh well | 21:29 |
| nik90 | mcphail: hmm yes..otherwise items has 0 width and height..which is why they were overlapping one other | 21:30 |
| nik90 | mcphail: tht's why I usually test with rectangle first before switching to item | 21:30 |
| mcphail | nik90: yes, that helped. Thanks! | 21:31 |
| nik90 | yw | 21:32 |
| aquarius | I'm trying to build an app (Beru, as it happens) for the emulator, in Ubuntu SDK. The build fails with error "error: poppler/qt5/poppler-qt5.h: No such file or directory". I assumed this meant that the appropriate library wasn't in the chroot that the build uses, but I've "Manage"d that chroot and apt-get install'ed the package and it still isn't working. What else might I need to do? | 23:13 |
| aquarius | In particular, /usr/include/poppler/qt5/poppler-qt5.h exists in the chroot. | 23:15 |
| aquarius | I think I'm changing the correct chroot, but how might I find out if I'm wrong? | 23:15 |
| aquarius | (note: in Ubuntu SDK, under Build Environment, PATH is set to /var/lib/schroot/chroots/click-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-i386... and /var/lib/schroot/chroots/click-ubuntu-sdk-14.10-i386/usr/include/poppler/qt5/poppler-qt5.h exists, so I'm pretty sure that's right. | 23:17 |
| nik90 | aquarius: hey, do you want to host a session in UOS May 5th-7th about UCS with regards to the new curated and community channels? | 23:18 |
| aquarius | nik90, I should really, shouldn't I? Sure, why not, let me go and propose a session. | 23:19 |
| aquarius | however, in return you have to help me with my Dummies Guide To CMake question above :) | 23:19 |
| nik90 | aquarius: lol | 23:20 |
| nik90 | aquarius: considering that you have installed poppler-qt5 in the chroot, I am failing to see why it is failing to build. | 23:22 |
| aquarius | nik90, me too | 23:22 |
| aquarius | I mean, I'm not brilliant at this stuff, but that really feels like it ought to work :) | 23:22 |
| nik90 | aquarius: I have a hunch.. | 23:23 |
| popey | you building an armhf binary? | 23:23 |
| popey | in an armhf chroot? aquarius ^? | 23:23 |
| nik90 | above the green play button, where you choose the kit stuff, see if there is another configuration you can run | 23:23 |
| nik90 | also try what popey said..may be poppler-qt5 build error has to do with i386 and requires additional packages | 23:24 |
| popey | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10863817/ | 23:24 |
| popey | thats what I have in my chroot | 23:24 |
| popey | note libpoppler-qt5-1:armhf | 23:25 |
| nik90 | hmm true | 23:25 |
| nik90 | aquarius: ^^ | 23:25 |
| aquarius | popey, ah, this is an i386 chroot, or for the emulator | 23:25 |
| aquarius | nik90, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22439/ubuntu-component-store/ -- it hasn't shown up in the schedule yet, presumably because it needs to be approved | 23:26 |
| popey | you're building an i386 binary in an i386 chroot for the i386 emulator, right? | 23:26 |
| nik90 | aquarius: yup, time to test if I am the UOS app lead | 23:26 |
| popey | aquarius: approved | 23:26 |
| popey | oops | 23:26 |
| aquarius | popey, I certainly *believe* that that's what I'm doing :) | 23:26 |
| popey | qtdeclarative5-poppler1.0:i386 | 23:27 |
| popey | do you have that? | 23:27 |
| aquarius | ah, wait, hang on | 23:27 |
| aquarius | do I have to install :i386 versions of the packages? | 23:27 |
| popey | not if it's an i386 chroot | 23:27 |
| aquarius | I'm in an i386 chroot! does it not know that? | 23:27 |
| popey | it will do that by default | 23:27 |
| aquarius | oh, good, OK :) | 23:27 |
| popey | ignore that bit | 23:27 |
| popey | just install qtdeclarative5-poppler1.0 | 23:27 |
| aquarius | I have | 23:28 |
| aquarius | but... | 23:28 |
| popey | (mine is a 14.10 chroot, you may have a newer poppler) | 23:28 |
| nik90 | aquarius: I see your session. You got any date and time preference? | 23:28 |
| aquarius | nik90, not tuesday evening UK time | 23:29 |
| aquarius | other than that, rock and roll. | 23:29 |
| aquarius | popey, yep, got that | 23:29 |
| nik90 | aquarius: at the moment no session has been scheduled..so all slots free :) | 23:29 |
| popey | aquarius: lemme try, what we building? | 23:29 |
| aquarius | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10863833/ | 23:29 |
| aquarius | popey, beru | 23:29 |
| popey | link? | 23:30 |
| aquarius | popey, I checked it out of github (https://github.com/rschroll/beru), opened it in Ubuntu SDK (by choosing its cmakefile.txt), chose my emulator build target (which I know works), and... got this error. | 23:30 |
| popey | lemme try | 23:30 |
| popey | what version chroot? | 23:31 |
| aquarius | annoyingly I can't build it for the desktop because it now depends on a newer version of the SDK than 14.04 has :( | 23:31 |
| aquarius | otherwise I wouldn't bother with all this emulator fannying about :) | 23:31 |
| nik90 | aquarius: I scheduled it for wednesday 18:00 UTC | 23:31 |
| aquarius | nice one nik90 | 23:32 |
| aquarius | I have added the ical for UOS to my calendar, so I shouldn't miss anything | 23:32 |
| nik90 | popey: btw I doubt we need a dedicated clock app session. No idea what to present/talk about there | 23:32 |
| aquarius | I assume google calendar re-polls it every now and again :) | 23:32 |
| nik90 | aquarius: it should | 23:33 |
| popey | well, i added one for each core app | 23:33 |
| nik90 | aquarius: either way when I host it, I will bug you to join it :P | 23:33 |
| * aquarius laughs | 23:33 | |
| aquarius | nik90, feel free to edit the session description if you think it should be different | 23:34 |
| * nik90 is annoyed that people keep rating clock 1-2 star after complaining about missing timer/stopwatch | 23:36 | |
| nik90 | aquarius: sure..will go through it with a fresh mind tomorrow | 23:36 |
| popey | hmm | 23:40 |
| popey | aquarius: fails same way here | 23:41 |
| popey | ok, docviewer fails in the same way in the same chroot | 23:43 |
| popey | aquarius: ooh | 23:54 |
| popey | bah | 23:58 |
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