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| mustafam | Hi everybody | 13:17 |
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| mustafam | I think there is a problem in networkmanager dependencies | 13:18 |
| mustafam | It no longer uses ppp for pppoe/adsl connections, it uses pppoe binary | 13:18 |
| mustafam | Where should I report this | 13:18 |
| rbasak | mustafam: which pppoe binary exactly? | 13:23 |
| rbasak | The ppp package provides an rp-pppoe.so plugin. Does it use that, or does it use the separate pppoe pty wrapper? | 13:24 |
| mustafam | As per http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/commit/?h=nm-0-9-10&id=7955806a02db64b20079267743056d7d9d45af3b | 13:26 |
| mustafam | "for now, work around this by using the userland pppoe client rather than the kernel code" | 13:27 |
| mustafam | ppp is not enough | 13:27 |
| mustafam | I use pppoe connection, it does not work unless I install pppoe package (binary executable) | 13:28 |
| rbasak | Ah, so this is a switch from rp-pppoe.so to the separate pppoe binary. | 13:28 |
| mustafam | I think so | 13:29 |
| rbasak | pppoe is in universe, so network-manager cannot depend on it or recommend it. | 13:29 |
| mustafam | I use the latest daily images and it is affected | 13:29 |
| mustafam | So will ubuntu ship with broken dsl/pppoe? | 13:30 |
| rbasak | You can file a bug against network-manager. Either pppoe will remain in universe, or it could be promoted to main. | 13:30 |
| mustafam | I have WiFi addon card, but what about ethernet only? | 13:30 |
| rbasak | If the decision is for it to remain in universe, then network-manager could suggest pppoe, but users would need to install it manually to get pppoe functionality. | 13:30 |
| mustafam | I'll report a bug, but if somebody have only wired pppoe, how should he connect to install it manually | 13:31 |
| teward | go to a coffee shop with free wifi or download the package separately on another system and then install it manually? | 13:32 |
| mustafam | Desktop? | 13:32 |
| mustafam | OK, I know it's the networkmanager folks decision | 13:32 |
| teward | desktop, laptop, android phone that can handle downloads the way you need it to, etc. | 13:33 |
| mustafam | OK, thank you. | 13:33 |
| teward | probably other methods, but that's probably the 'quickest' way to get the .deb package | 13:33 |
| teward | you should still file the bug though :) | 13:34 |
| mustafam | Of course I will | 13:34 |
| rbasak | mustafam: you do have a valid case to have the pppoe binary shipped there. You should point it out in the bug. | 13:34 |
| rbasak | It's pretty late in the day for Vivid though. | 13:34 |
| mustafam | Can it be "urgent"? | 13:35 |
| rbasak | Release is in two days. | 13:35 |
| mustafam | Right | 13:35 |
| rbasak | pppoe would be considered security sensitive, so it'd need a security review and possibly an apparmor profile before bringing it into main, which would be required for it to ship in the installer. | 13:35 |
| rbasak | PPPoE directly from a desktop machine is also a pretty extreme edge case. Most who use PPPoE use routers. | 13:36 |
| teward | indeed | 13:36 |
| mustafam | OK, I'll see what can they do :) | 13:36 |
| mustafam | Thank you, bye. | 13:37 |
| teward | so, https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bugcontrol/msg04322.html is something I haven't seen much of here. Wouldn't the proposed change in the bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/+bug/1442039) not be a valid change for an SRU? | 14:11 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1442039 in samba4 (Ubuntu) "Samba 4.1.6 has userlock bug - fixed in 4.2.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:11 |
| * teward is concerned about feature changes | 14:11 | |
| teward | rbasak: you've commented on the bug previously, I don't think they listened to you in comment #3 | 14:12 |
| teward | looks like lfaraone got to it and responded to the bug | 14:21 |
| lfaraone | :P | 14:31 |
| lfaraone | it isn't SRU-worthy | 14:31 |
| rbasak | lfaraone: ah, thanks. I thought it was a bug on first glance. Now that he's described it fully it definitely sounds like a feature. | 14:33 |
| mustafam | I reported this: | 14:34 |
| mustafam | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1446689 | 14:34 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1446689 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "networkmanager requires pppoe but it is not in "requires"" [Undecided,New] | 14:34 |
| mustafam | It can be fixed by configuring --with-pppoe=/usr/sbin/pppd | 14:35 |
| teward | lfaraone: that's what i thought, i was going to say something to that effect but you beat me to it xD | 14:46 |
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| Malizor | Hi, could someone nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem-plugin-arte/+bug/1445829 for Trusty and Utopic ? | 15:55 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1445829 in totem-plugin-arte (Ubuntu) "No video playback possible - side pane empty" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:55 |
| Malizor | Hi, I'm not sure my former message was sent so here it is again: | 17:30 |
| Malizor | Could someone nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem-plugin-arte/+bug/1445829 for both Trusty and Utopic? | 17:30 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1445829 in totem-plugin-arte (Ubuntu) "No video playback possible - side pane empty" [Undecided,In progress] | 17:30 |
| rbasak | Malizor: are you aware that this needs to be fixed in Vivid first, and then fixes backported to Trusty and Utopic? | 17:34 |
| Malizor | rbasak: That's another problem: this is not fixable in Vivid because Totem > 3.10 dropped support for "old" plugins like totem-plugin-arte | 17:36 |
| Malizor | The package should ideally be removed from Vivid, but I don't know how to request it | 17:37 |
| rbasak | Malizor: file a bug against the package requesting removal and subscribe ~ubuntu-archive. | 17:37 |
| rbasak | Malizor: I'll add the bug tasks for Trusty and Utopic for you, but please file that other bug, link to it from this one, explain in a comment what's going on and then mark the main task in this bug Invalid. | 17:38 |
| Malizor | rbasak: will do | 17:38 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 17:39 |
| Malizor | rbasak: no, thank you :-) | 17:39 |
| rbasak | Malizor: well, you're doing the work, and we appreciate that :) | 17:39 |
| Malizor | rbasak: done | 17:56 |
| Malizor | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem-plugin-arte/+bug/1446775 | 17:56 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1446775 in totem-plugin-arte (Ubuntu) "Please remove totem-plugin-arte from Vivid" [Undecided,New] | 17:56 |
| rbasak | Malizor: looks great. Thank you! | 17:57 |
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