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mariogripehhm? why is my system-image server using gzip compressed data for Ubuntu rootsf and  XZ compressed data on Device/android data?00:22
cwaynemariogrip, not sure, but that could explain why people were running out of space00:26
mariogripbut the updater scrip in recovery that progress the files is made for XZ, so it will fail00:28
Novicer_Have a question about installing Ubuntu on Nexus 10. From http://bit.ly/18kIrhM it looks like we are pretty much ready to go. However, from looking at apps.ubuntu.com, I can't tell which of all the applications will run under Ubuntu on the Nexus 10. Will all the applications within a desktop also work on within the Nexus 10 environment?03:27
tangohi03:30
tangoanyone online?03:30
tangohi?03:31
tangoHow to use ubuntu-sdk?03:32
Novicer_I'm also waiting to see if anyone is online to answer my question.  :-(03:34
tangoowh I see03:34
Novicer_Been waiting for about 7 minutes.03:34
tangoso, what's your problem?03:34
Novicer_Have a question about installing Ubuntu on Nexus 10. From http://bit.ly/18kIrhM it looks like we are pretty much ready to go. However, from looking at apps.ubuntu.com, I can't tell which of all the applications will run under Ubuntu on the Nexus 10. Will all the applications within a desktop also work on within the Nexus 10 environment?03:35
tangoIf the application written in HTML5 and QML, chance to run them are pretty high.03:36
tangoand Nexus is supported, I believe.03:36
Novicer_Yes, Nexus 10 is supported.03:36
tangoHTML5 and QML is not compiled, that's why it's so portable.03:36
Novicer_OK, how will a non-deveoper determine if an app (korganizer to be exact) has been written in HTML5 or QML?03:37
tangowell, you can see the project in PPA.03:37
Novicer_I'm searching the Internet now for Ubuntu PPA03:39
tangoThat's good.03:39
tangoactually..it's Launchpad03:40
tangoppa is the repository for Launchpad, 3rd party repos.03:40
Novicer_https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim shows kdepim (which is the container package for korganizer), but I don't see how I can determine if is was written in HTML5 or QML.03:44
tangolet me check for you.03:45
Novicer_Ah, looking at the source code, it looks like it is written in C++.03:46
Novicer_Wait, there is a folder called mobile which contains qml.  :-)03:47
tangoIt's sounds like it using Qt03:47
tangoyep03:47
tangothat's great03:47
tangobut it's good to email the developers03:47
Novicer_Yeah! Cool. OK, thank you very much tango.03:47
tangoSee this if you want to browse other apps03:48
tangohttps://uappexplorer.com/03:48
Novicer_VERY nice. Thank you!03:49
tangoalthough, it's not official. Hope you feel good to use Ubuntu-Touch later. :D03:50
tangoand I can't install from site, the links is corrupted somehow. So, it's better to browse the official repositories. (I prefer and in the same time, no, since it's mix up with desktop apps.)03:52
Novicer_OK, thanks again.03:57
lotuspsychjethe alternative appstore is fantastic, nice work04:08
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Canonical-Is-Now-Using-Phased-Updates-for-Ubuntu-Touch-478883.shtml04:17
lotuspsychjeevery day i read something new :p04:18
tangohi05:01
tangoAnyone here is a QML programmer?05:04
tangoneed help embedding C++ in JS with this Meta language.05:04
lotuspsychjetango: idle here a bit longer until devs are awake05:09
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robin-heroHi all! I have just found a bug which is affected me (in other language), please enable the "bug affects you" option, because it is a high priority bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/telephony-service/+bug/143691206:25
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1436912 in telephony-service "Unlocalized notification option ("Message")" [Undecided,New]06:25
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MirvSaviq: can you maybe also (double)confirm bug #1441822 seems fixed with silo 015?06:40
ubot5bug 1441822 in qtdeclarative-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "unity8 consuming excessive cpu in a preview page" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144182206:40
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Guest99328hello ? who know about  indicator-messages package?06:50
Guest99328I want to send a message, but I do not know how to send06:51
robin-heroGuest99328: What would you like to?06:51
Guest99328Hi robin-hero: I want to send a message to Notifications06:52
Guest99328my special message06:52
robin-herohttps://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/push-notifications-client-guide/06:54
robin-herohttps://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/platform/guides/push-notifications-server-guide/06:54
Guest99328my application maybe a daemon, it can send a specal message to unity8, Just like a normal SMS06:55
Guest99328Hi robin-hero, would you contact the developer for indicator-messages package? push notification is not what I want.06:57
robin-heroGuest99328: Sorry, I am only an user, just tried to help you with no luck :)06:58
Guest99328thanks all the same07:00
RAOFGuest99328: Bear in mind that you can't be a daemon; your app will only run while it's foregrounded.07:03
SaviqMirv, will do07:06
dholbachgood morning07:08
Guest99328HI RAOF, are you from Canonical ?07:14
RAOFGuest99328: Yes, but not directly working on the phone API.07:18
Guest99328thanks, RAOF!07:20
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robin-hero Hi all! I have just found a bug which is affected me (in other language), please click  the "bug affects you" option, because it is a high priority bug because it is visible many times for the users. https://bugs.launchpad.net/telephony-service/+bug/143691208:11
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1436912 in telephony-service "Unlocalized notification option ("Message")" [Undecided,New]08:11
leousaHi folks, I have a question regarding the ubuntu-push-client in the Ubuntu phone BQ (r21)08:18
leousaAfter last update, the push notification system, in particular for Telegram doesn't work at all08:19
leousaI have installed the "Hello" app to test it, but upon launch it throws and error08:19
leousa:ERROR: The name com.ubuntu.PushNotifications was not provided by any .service files08:20
leousaany idea why this is happening?08:20
leousaIf I try from terminal> restart ubuntu-push-client08:22
leousarestart: Unknown instance08:22
leousaIf i try from terminal> status ubuntu-push-client08:23
leousaubuntu-push-client stop/waiting08:23
leousaanyone?08:32
popeyleousa: dont think the people who know about this have woken up yet08:33
robin-heroleousa: Sorry, I can't help you, maybe ask your question a little bit later, when more developers will here08:34
leousaalright, thanks folks08:34
richi__When trying to create a kit in QtCreator on trisquel belenos : Error creating textual authentication agent: Error opening current controlling terminal for the process (`/dev/tty'): No such device or address08:34
robin-heropopey: I have just saw your bug about Today scope. It is available still, but it has a new name: Daily Info08:35
popeyrobin-hero: what do you mean by "still available"?08:40
Se7morning @all08:40
richi__Can I create a kit from the commandline?08:40
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Kindergarten Day! :-D09:07
dadexix86JamesTait, what is Kindergarten Day? :O09:09
JamesTaitdadexix86, https://www.daysoftheyear.com/days/kindergarten-day/ :)09:10
ogra_the day where you trhow your lunch custard at your colleagues perhaps ?09:10
JamesTaitogra_, if only my colleagues weren't so far away!09:10
ogra_you just have to throw very hard !09:11
pittikalikiana, sil2100: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/sphinxSysPath/+merge/252891 added the legacy and currnet autopilot build dep, but that's  all in universe09:11
pittisil2100: the silos apparently are mis-configured to not respect teh main/universe component check?09:11
dadexix86JamesTait, it is the first time that I hear about it! do you know in which countries is it celebrated? :)09:11
pittikalikiana, sil2100: thus ubuntu-ui-toolkit is unbuildable; we need to fix the mismatch today-ish09:12
bzoltan_pitti:  would you mind to file a bug please and assign it to kalikiana?09:13
ogra_pitti, we build from universe by default ~60% of our packages live there09:13
JamesTaitdadexix86, I don't think I've heard of it before, either. I doubt it's a "real" celebration - most of the ones on that site aren't, but I like to try and find something to celebrate in every day. ;)09:13
sil2100pitti: I don't think we have any checks for those in our silos, hmm09:13
sil2100Ok, that's bad09:13
pittiogra_: I know, but ubuntu-ui-toollkit is in main09:13
ogra_oh09:13
ogra_yeah09:13
pittisil2100: wgrant just looked, and appaerntly there's a checkbox, but it has the wrong value?09:14
wgrantRight, on the "Edit PPA dependencies" page there is a radio button to select whether ogre-model is respected.09:15
sil2100pitti: where's the checkbox?09:15
pittiwhat wgrant said09:15
sil2100pitti, wgrant: the 'Ubuntu components' radio select?09:15
wgrantsil2100: Right.09:17
wgrantWith "Use all Ubuntu components available" everything builds against multiverse.09:17
sil2100wgrant: hm, I think this was always set to this, not sure if anyone actually knew of what this option does09:17
pittibzoltan_, kalikiana: filed bug 144653309:17
ubot5bug 1446533 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu Vivid) "build-depends on python-autopilot which is in universe" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144653309:18
bzoltan_pitti:  thanks09:18
pittiI'm trying to build the package without the ap build dep, I figure I sohld get the sphinx error again?09:18
kalikianapitti: yes09:20
kalikianaso, what exactly can I do here to fix this? if I remove the build dep it'll be akin to not fixing the bug…09:20
sil2100wgrant: so, when the radio button select is on 'Use the same components used for each source in the Ubuntu primary archive.', does it mean it simply won't allow fetching main package deps from universe, but would still allow the other way around, right?09:21
sil2100wgrant: e.g. a main package adding universe deps would not work (as we like), but universe packages can fetch main deps?09:22
wgrantsil2100: Right, the "Use the same components [...]" option behaves like the primary archive, except that sources that don't exist in the primary archive will pretend to be in multiverse.09:22
pittikalikiana: I guess there's some options: (1) see if merely reverting the fix would be a release critical bug, or see if we can ignore it09:22
pittikalikiana: (2) copy the two bits of required autopilot macros (or whatever it needs) into ui-toolkit09:22
sil2100Nice09:22
pittikalikiana: (3) try and move to python3-autopilot (please let's not peruse the legacy stuff), and bring that into main09:23
sil2100wgrant: ok, thanks, I guess now that I know about it it would be nice to use it for all our PPAs ;) Let me do that today09:23
pittikalikiana: so hte package builds without the build-dep, but I d oget teh sphinx error again09:23
kalikianapitti: it's not about macros. sphinx imports the actual module wehn building the docs09:24
pittikalikiana: the thing I wonder about -- why does ui-toolkit need to inspect the autopilot python module? shouldn't the docs for AP be built by AP, not by ui-toolkit?09:24
pittikalikiana: could we just ship an empty dummy autopilot/__init__.py there to quiesce that?09:25
kalikianapitti: hmmm09:25
kalikianamaybe09:25
MirvI just filed bug #1446541 , can you confirm or do you know of a duplicate one?09:27
ubot5bug 1446541 in ubuntu-keyboard (Ubuntu) "Switching to symbols layout and back too slow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144654109:27
kalikianapitti: I'm trying it out now09:31
pittikalikiana: cool, danke09:31
kalikianapitti: doesn't look like a fake is going to do it, it's imported fully like in a real autopilot run09:50
pittikalikiana: you mean it actually wants symbols from that? that sounds just wrong09:51
kalikianapitti: it does indeed. it's complaining about matchers and dbus not being in my fake09:51
pittikalikiana: can one tell it to not try and build the whole autopilot docs?09:55
kalikianapitti: it doesn't09:58
kalikianait's just uitk docs09:59
pittiwell, there must be something which refers to the AP docs?10:00
kalikianathe uitk python module is imported which in turn imports autopilot10:01
kalikianatechnically sphinx doesn't do that10:01
pittiah, that way around10:01
kalikianayou mentioned python3, what can we do there?10:02
kalikianaat the time of that change, we still supported python2 and 3 so the choice was arbitrary really10:02
kalikianawe could easily use python3-autopilot10:03
pittikalikiana: if we want to MIR all those autopilot deps, we at least don't want to support the obsolete one10:03
pittialthough, hmm -- reading the graph on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg that wouldn't actually help10:03
kalikianais autopilot-legacy the same as python-autopilot?10:05
pittikalikiana: yes10:06
pittiap-legacy is the source package, p-ap the binary10:06
pitti(one of the binaries)10:06
kalikianaah10:07
kalikianaokay10:07
kalikianapitti: so how do you figure that it wouldn't help? from the graph I can't tell that much10:08
pittikalikiana: because bringing p3-autopilot into main still transitively depends on the old one10:09
pittibecause autopilot-gtk still builds modules for both10:09
pittiI guess once we moved everything away from ap-legacy we can stop building the python2 modules in -gtk and -qt10:09
pittibut that sounds too late now for vivid10:09
richi__Can I create a kit for QtCreator/UbuntuSDK  from the commandline?10:13
pittielopio, didrocks, bzoltan_: last week jibel mentioned that newer click packages using the SDK now have their tests in app/tests/autopilot/ not tests/autopilot/ any more; is that true?10:14
pittielopio, didrocks, bzoltan_: if so, I should probably apply http://paste.ubuntu.com/10860776/ so that one can actually run the tests?10:14
kalikianapitti: so conclusion is to kick out the dependency?10:16
kalikianashort of shipping a copy of ap in the uitk for the purpose of building docs, which we probably don't want either… doesn't seem like we have other options10:18
pittikalikiana: if that's less work than you writing 8 MIRs and getting them reviewed by EOD today, yes (I very much think that MIRing them would be a lot more effort)10:19
pittikalikiana: could we pre-build the documentatoin and just ship it, as a workaround?10:19
kalikianahmmm presumably we could10:21
kalikianathough tbh I'm not keen on prebuilt docs; the almost never updated docs on d.u.c are an example of why…10:23
pittikalikiana: yeah, me neither; but at this point we need a solution fast, I'm afraid :/10:25
kalikianaI'm giving it a try; in theory we can just ship the built files10:30
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kalikianapitti: bzoltan_  https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/generatedApDocs/+merge/25691010:57
pittikalikiana: reviewed, thanks!11:00
knightwisemorning11:05
knightwiseI did the update on my BQ phone a couple of days ago .. but now I have icons that no longer show up11:05
knightwiseinstead of (for example) the transmission icon .. i just have a blank icon in the application scope and in the toolbar on the left11:06
knightwiseanyone else have this experience ?11:06
ogra_knightwise, someone filed a bug for that, yes11:09
mcphailWhere do I search for bugs about the lockscreen? Unity-greeter on launchpad seems to be desktop orientated11:12
ogra_the greeter is inside unity8 on the phone11:13
mcphailI read somewhere in the unity8 buglist that the greeter had been made a separate package. Is that incorrect?11:13
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ogra_mcphail, it still lives in the same source afaik ... it has its own binary package ... ( Saviq may correct me if i'm wrong)11:16
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jgdxpitti, how's it going? :)11:17
mcphailThanks ogra_11:19
Saviqmcphail, unity8 still indeed11:20
mcphailSaviq: cheers. Searching now11:22
pittijgdx: having lots of fun with last-minute release-critical bugs :)11:22
pittijdstrand: greetings from Blue Fin!11:23
davmor2pitti: man if that's your idea of fun you need to get out more11:23
davmor2jibel: tonight kidnap pitti make him do something fun show him what fun really is ;)11:23
ogra_pete-woods, tedg, i'm tasked to make a comparison between RTM and vivid image sizes ... looking at the added/removed packages i see the hud has come back in vivid, eating massive amounts of space due to the sphinx deps ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/10860757/ could we un-seed it again (since we dont use the hud on the phone still)11:26
pete-woodsogra_: it's definitely not needed on the phone, no11:28
ogra_sil2100, ^^^ do you have any ideas when the hud and unitzy-voice-service entered vivid images ? i cant find a changeset for that11:28
jgdxpitti, :( Good luck! Let me know when things quiet down ( :P ).11:28
ogra_sil2100, the first trace of it in vivid is image 174, but thats an upgrade, it has been seeded before apparently11:29
ogra_seb128, any idea why the phone in vivid ships adwaita-icon-theme  ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10860757/11:31
Se7https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libusermetrics/+bug/1438191   no news about thar :(11:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1438191 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "no date source available" [Undecided,New]11:34
seb128ogra_, it's the new name for gnome-icon-theme11:35
seb128ogra_, which is in your removed list11:35
ogra_seb128, yeah, but only at a third of the size11:36
seb128ogra_, talk to Laney and darkxst, they should be equivalent11:36
sil2100ogra_: hud? hm, I think it never actually got removed from the images11:36
mcphailMy bq phone sometimes does not respond to swipes to unlock, and the circle in the middle does not change text when double-tapped. I can still unlock the phone by pulling in the dash, selecting an app and typing the unlock code. My phone is in this state just now. Where should I start debugging?11:36
ogra_sil2100, it is seeded :P11:36
* ogra_ checks the commit logs for the seed11:37
sil2100ogra_: I remember there was a MR from you that wanted to remove it from the seeds but it never got merged11:37
sil2100I remember it since I saw it in the sponsoring queue as part of another change11:37
sil2100So it never got unseeded ;)11:37
ogra_sil2100, well, the vivid seeds should base on the rtm ones and rtm doesnt have it seeded11:37
sil2100It's not that it got re-added, just never removed in vivid11:38
ogra_                | == Apps ==11:38
ogra_                |11:38
ogra_                |  * hud11:38
ogra_9       ogra@ub |  * webbrowser-app11:38
ogra_yeah11:38
ogra_bzr blame agrees11:38
ogra_damn11:38
kalikianabzoltan_: re-targeted the branch https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/generatedApDocs/+merge/25691311:42
mcphailDoes anyone know the best way to debug my lock screen? It isn't unlocking when swiped11:46
mcphaills11:47
ogra_Laney, seb128, FYI, i unseeded hud from touch ... but left it in desktop since you guys dont have the size restrictions touch has ... so people can still play with hud stuff on unity8 desktop11:47
Laneycan you access it?11:48
ogra_not sure, but if someone wants to work on ways to access it, it is available11:48
seb128ogra_, thanks11:48
Laneyi'd remove it as well if it's not useful11:48
seb128+111:48
Laney(imo)11:48
ogra_ok11:48
Laneythanks11:48
popeymcphail: probably crashed11:49
popeymcphail: is the time updating?11:49
mcphailpopey: yes. I'd like to debug it to get a fix. Happens every couple of days11:49
popeymcphail: wait for a few minutes, probably apport is writing a crash file in /var/crash11:50
popeylet it finish11:50
mcphailpopey: can still unlock by opening app from launcher11:50
popeyoh11:50
popeyits not frozen completely then?11:50
ogra_ah11:50
mcphailpopey: no11:50
ogra_only the right swipe s broken ?11:50
popeygreeter crash?11:50
ogra_we have a bug for that somewhere11:50
mcphailpopey: info in circle doesn't change on double tap11:50
ogra_popey, no11:50
popeyok. i dont know then.11:50
mcphailogra_: i can't find a bug filed under unity811:51
ogra_bug 139114911:51
ubot5bug 1391149 in unity8 (Ubuntu RTM) "greeter not reacting to swipes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/139114911:51
ogra_fix is in vivid already it seems ... just a matter of time to hit the phones11:51
mcphailogra_: that'll be why i couldn't find it, if fix released :)11:53
ogra_yeah, it isnt fix released in RTM11:53
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ogra_slangasek, i see you did the merge of console-setup in vivid, is console-setup-linux a new package that debian introduced or is it just split out of the former console-setup (wondering if the extra 1M the -linux package eats now have been used before in RTM)12:03
kekambascwayne, sup?12:17
kekambasogra_, sup?12:18
Mirvwhich project to file design requests under? I remember seeing it but I now can't find a bug where it would be included12:30
robin-heroMirv: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux12:30
Mirvrobin-hero: thanks! that's exactly what I was searching for but just couldn't remember.12:31
robin-heroMirv: you're welcome!12:31
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leousaanyone here can help with a problem in ubuntu-push-client?12:36
Mirvso my first bug is actually bug #1384814 <- jdstrand I heard you were also interested in that at some point, can you give your input in there too (if you have anything to add)?12:38
ubot5bug 1384814 in Ubuntu UX "[System Settings] lock screen not honoring timeout setting from system-settings" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138481412:38
jdstrandpitti: hi! :)12:39
* ogra_ is totally with Laney on that bug 12:45
ogra_i would freak out if i couldnt lock my phone and had to wait on a timer12:45
leousa:ERROR: The name com.ubuntu.PushNotifications was not provided by any .service files12:45
leousaany idea what can be causing this?12:45
ogra_your push service not running i would guess ...12:46
leousawell yeah that's the problem12:46
leousano notifications since last OTA12:46
leousastill don't know why12:46
ogra_is that an unmodified, readonly standard image on a bq ?12:46
leousaor how to fix12:46
leousayes, is a BQ phone r21 unmodified12:47
* ogra_ forgot who took over the push service from Chipaca 12:47
Chipacaleousa: the push team is coming online, i'd expect them to answer your email shortly12:47
leousagreat, i have filed the bug on launchpad Bug #144546512:48
ubot5Launchpad bug 1445465 in libqtelegram "No push notifications in telegram after update (r21)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144546512:48
Chipacaleousa: question: did you install anything on your phone via apt-get or something like that?12:48
leousanope nothing12:48
leousajust some apps from app store12:48
Chipacaleousa: yes, i saw that, that's what i meant about people getting back to you12:48
Chipacaleousa: something is very busted on your phone :(  nothing we can't fix, i hope, but i'll leave it to the team12:49
leousanot very encouraging but thanks anyway12:49
leousasince i haven't done anything to bust it12:49
ogra_you seem to be the only one seeing this so far though12:50
Chipacaleousa: yeah. So if you could have a bit of patience, your phone is the only instance we know of that's doing this, so we need your help figuring it out before we can fix it12:50
ogra_(at least from the people we get feedback from, there is surely enough others not on the ML, IRC or G+)12:50
leousaI am all about patience :)12:51
Chipacaleousa: excellent :) thank you, and sorry it's messed up12:51
Chipacaralsina: ^^ fwiw12:51
* Chipaca goes for lunch12:51
Mirvand here's my other part of that bug, bug #144663512:53
ubot5bug 1446635 in Ubuntu UX "Allow double-pressing power button to bypass home screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144663512:53
robin-heroHi all! I think my GPS doesn't work. I tried it several time, but no luck. (bq, r21) Pictures:http://imgur.com/kKMg404 http://imgur.com/kKMg404,JAoea2t#112:55
popeyrobin-hero: what do you see in system settings -> security & privacy -> location ? http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-04-21-135745.png12:58
robin-heropopey: http://imgur.com/583puq213:01
ogra_Saviq, what does unity8 use from unity-asset-pool ? it pulls in a lot of unwanted theme packages13:04
robin-heropopey: How many minutes while the GPS has got signal? I tried it for about 10 minutes.13:04
pittihey jdstrand13:05
ogra_robin-hero, without network about 20-30min13:05
ogra_and you should be outside or near a window13:05
Saviqogra_, dunno from the top of my head, we'd need to find out13:05
MirvI know my Bq usage escalates quickly to the "hack" area, but what would be a way to disable app lifecycle management for a certain app (like terminal)13:05
ogra_Saviq, yeah, we do, that eats a lot of space ...13:06
Mirvbreaking ssh connections are unfortunate13:06
robin-heroogra_: I have network (tried in a big city) and of course outside13:06
ogra_robin-hero, your indicator shows you have no network13:06
ogra_at least when you took the screenshot13:06
Saviqogra_, well, truth be told, we're not depending on it directly, so you can assume we're not using anything from it :P13:07
robin-heroogra_: Yeah, the third one. I took this pictures later inside :) see the first and the second pictures13:07
Saviqogra_, none of us were looking explicitly at that package to find any assets I don't think (will ask in our standup)13:07
ogra_Saviq, thanks ... it pulls in humanity-icon-theme, ubuntu-mono and adwaita-icon-theme13:08
ogra_about 10-20M in total on disk13:09
tsdgeosanyone knows where do i open a bug if the weather app "find me" says i'm like 600km away from where i am?13:09
ogra_tsdgeos, i'm sure there is one open ... though 600km is a new record ...13:09
ogra_for me its usually 200km13:09
ogra_cwayne, ^^^ do you remember the bug number ?13:10
tsdgeos614km by car i guess straight line would be a bit less13:11
Mirvogra_: Saviq: I filed a bug tracking among else unity-asset-pool and others regarding their pulling of GTK3 at bug #1436211 - just removing unity-asset-pool is not enough, but fixing the need of it would be beneficial13:11
ubot5bug 1436211 in unity-asset-pool (Ubuntu) "Remove GTK3 from phone images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143621113:11
ogra_iirc that scope uses geoip data13:11
cwaynetsdgeos, ogra_ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rest-scopes/+bug/142180113:11
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1421801 in Ubuntu Rest Scopes "weather channel scope shows wrong location" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:11
ogra_Mirv, lovely, thanks !13:11
ogra_pmcgowan, can we get bug 1436211 on the canonical-system-image radar ?13:12
ubot5bug 1436211 in unity-asset-pool (Ubuntu) "Remove GTK3 from phone images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143621113:12
MirvI will try to take care of bug #1436215 when Debian decides what to do about it :)13:13
ubot5bug 1436215 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Separate GTK2 dependency from libqt5gui5" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143621513:13
ogra_Mirv, i doubt we can get rid of gtk3 though ... unless e-d-s stops using glib13:14
Mirvogra_: well glib is not the problem, gtk3 dep is13:14
pmcgowanogra_, jeesh13:15
ogra_oh, i see it now13:15
Mirvthe eds library only uses libglib, but the question is if e-d-s can be modified to not require GTK3 since we're not using GUI parts of it13:15
* ogra_ was looking at the wrong package13:15
ogra_yeah13:15
ogra_but that doesnt look like a quick thing :/13:15
Mirvnot all good things are quick :)13:16
ogra_but free !13:16
ogra_:)13:16
Mirvgood things also come to those who wait13:16
seb128ogra_, having e-d-s not pulling gtk should be easy enough, I looked at that previous cycle (and I though I did the change, but maybe not)13:16
ogra_seb128, oh !13:16
speck84Hy all13:20
speck84I wish to do my first app in ubuntu touch13:20
ogra_yay13:20
speck84Can somebody sop kind and help to fix my ubuntu13:20
speck84It's something missing13:20
speck84But I don't know what13:21
speck84Anyway hello work doesnt work ide13:21
speck84Orga can u pls help me out from this crysis13:22
jgdxwhat's missing?13:22
speck84First of all not working secondly it keep asking me to install 15.04 amfs but is done several times13:22
speck84in a QML project there is not loading I will show u13:23
jgdxwhat directions did you follow?13:23
speck84ubuntu deleloper webpage guided me13:25
speck84I using Ubuntu 15.04 RC13:25
speck84^$it13:25
speck84My phone is nexus 413:25
jgdxwhat webpage and what step are you on?13:27
speck84jgdx13:28
speck84the genuin ubuntu13:28
speck84Here is my errors13:28
speck84http://postimg.org/image/720frk3fh/13:28
speck84and another13:28
speck84http://postimg.org/image/49btl9sgt/13:28
speck84Thats all my problem13:29
ogra_bzoltan_, ^^^^13:30
bzoltan_bzoltan_: let me see13:30
ogra_heh13:30
speck84Thx mate I priciate13:30
speck84BZOltan are u hungarian?13:30
bzoltan_speck84: Yes, I am13:31
speck84Me too13:31
bzoltan_speck84:  We are everywhere :) We rule the world :D13:31
speck84shell we go in to private Bzoltan?13:31
bzoltan_speck84:  as you wish13:31
speck84thx13:31
Saviqcwayne, can you please adopt bug #144663613:37
ubot5bug 1446636 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "[Scopes] Photos sometimes shows popular Flickr photos instead of those belonging to user" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144663613:37
cwayne_Saviq, yep, was moving it over but got pulled into a meeting13:40
Saviqtx13:40
slangasekogra_: it's a split of the previous package14:01
ogra_slangasek, thanks14:01
JamesTaitpopey, do you know who is the best person to give feedback on the Aquaris user manual? My dad found an error. :)14:15
popeyJamesTait: victorp i think14:15
JamesTaitThanks! :)14:15
victorpJamesTait, send me in an email and I will send it to bq14:16
JamesTaitvictorp, perfect, I'll do that. Thanks guys!14:16
jgdxmpt, hey, there's a thing I don't understand wrt the apn spec. When you open the editor (dialog), are the text fields empty or prepopulated?14:28
jgdxmpt, I've implemented the design and my experience, from using it a while, says it should be populated with the currently active APN.14:33
mptjgdx, of course :-)14:35
jgdxmpt, really? :p Are you saying I sometimes have to think for myself?14:37
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mptjgdx, it was implied by the citation of bug 1388222, but I’ve just made it explicit. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking?action=diff&rev2=265&rev1=264>14:43
ubot5bug 1388222 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "APN editor: only names of existing APNs are visible" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138822214:43
jgdxmpt, awesome. Thanks.14:44
faeniltsdgeos: would you happen to know why using mascot instead of art as the source for a card image makes it collapse as if it had no image?15:21
faenilthe image is shown, but the card is too short15:21
tsdgeosfaenil: bug? :D15:21
faenilxD15:21
faenilI don't see why it happens...15:21
tsdgeosfaenil: can you make it happen with make tryCard?15:22
faenilcurrently they have the same path15:22
faenilI can't test that because I'm using custom stuff15:22
faenilart and mascot have the same path atm, but one makes the card collapse...15:22
faenil(still the image shows, so the path is correct)15:22
faenilI wonder if it could have something to do with the mascot being a variant on c++ side, while art is directly a string15:23
faenilbut I can't see how that should affect anything :/15:23
faenil(as long as the image can access that strinG)15:23
faenilmm no it's not that...using "result" (which is a string on c++ side) also makes it collapse (but still, the image shows)15:25
faeniland the heights are correct..15:30
tsdgeosfaenil: did you do any change to the card creator code?15:32
faenilsure :)15:33
faenilI still can't see how modifying the property which feeds an image can cause this, as long as the image can access that property15:34
nik90victorp: ping (about bug 1446715)15:40
ubot5bug 1446715 in podbird "TWIT podcast download errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144671515:40
victorphi nik9015:40
nik90victorp: hi, in the bug report you mention " While the new version shows the far is full straight away" .. was it version 0.6.beta4 that you tested?15:40
nik90victorp: you can check that in Settings->About15:41
victorpbeta215:41
victorpI can try 415:41
nik90victorp: ah..we improved that behavior in beta4..You can find that in http://nik90.com/podbird-v0-6-call-for-testing/15:41
victorpdo you have a link to download it?15:41
nik90victorp: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f2p4padh2k2shtw/com.mikeasoft.podbird_0.6_armhf.click?dl=015:42
nik90victorp: the issue is that sometime ubuntu download manager returns strange download values and it seems to be a upstream bug. We have already reported it at bug 142085315:43
ubot5bug 1420853 in ubuntu-download-manager "Download percentage bar sometimes goes up to millions of percent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/142085315:43
faeniltsdgeos: if I use a hardcoded path it works, if I use art it works, if I use mascot, the image still shows but the size is wrong15:43
faenilsounds like a timing issue with the evaluation of the CardGrid card height15:43
faenil(I'd think it uses bindings...)15:43
tsdgeosmay be15:44
tsdgeosit's all a bit complex in there15:44
faenilyeah15:45
felipealmeidahas anyone succeeded in using ubuntu touch in samsung s4 or s5?15:50
ogra_!devices15:51
ubot5You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices15:51
ogra_felipealmeida, see that wikipage15:51
felipealmeidaogra_: thanks15:52
victorpnik90, at the moment the app is refusing to download anything, trying to clean it up15:52
felipealmeidaogra_: since ubuntu touch leverages on cyanogenmod, it should not be that hard to port it right?15:53
felipealmeidafor S5, it is not in the list15:53
ogra_we moved to AOSP quite a while ago15:53
nik90victorp: ok..all downloaded stuff should be in .local/share/com.mikeasoft/podcasts folder15:53
victorpnik90, ok a reboot worked, I can see what you have done in beta4 with an infinite download bar15:54
victorpwfm..15:54
victorpnik90, I will close the bug15:54
nik90:)15:54
felipealmeidaogra_: the point is still valid on the porting?15:56
felipealmeidaif I install the closed source drivers, ofc15:56
ogra_you need to rebuild the android tree and remove most of it ... add the ubuntu bits (libhybris and other stuff), patch the kernel to support all required pieces ... and sprinkle your binary drivers in the right places15:57
ogra_see the porting guide from the channel topic15:58
rsalvetifelipealmeida: easy to do if you have an AOSP based port for such devices16:02
nik90Elleo: I think if you add qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin, you dont need to add qml-module-qt-labs-settings and qml-module-qtquick-localstorage since they the sdk should already depend on them, no?16:04
Elleonik90: seems not, someone on the ubuntu forums found those packages were missing when they installed16:08
nik90Elleo: oh16:08
pittisil2100: can we land https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/generatedApDocs/+merge/256913 now? it's on the images, and we are getting pressed for having a good candidate image16:12
sil2100pitti: hey! Let me take a look16:12
bzoltan_sil2100: pitti:  that MR is targeting the stagin16:12
pittiyeah, we originally had an MP targetting trunk16:13
pittiand this got superseded16:13
pittinot sure how  this staging branch thing works16:13
bzoltan_sil2100: pitti: unless if you want to pull it it from the normal landing process and push it straight to the trunk.16:13
sil2100bzoltan_: we'll need to have this released ASAP - do you have any changes staged in staging?16:13
bzoltan_pitti:  we have a pretty solid landing process... to avoid regression16:13
sil2100bzoltan_: we could get it into staging and then release it as a cherrypick to trunk too16:13
sil2100Since I guess this is blocking vivid release16:14
bzoltan_sil2100: pitti I have 4 other important changes in the staging. I was about to start a new landing today .. but kalikiana had problems with the license check and Jenkins failed on this MR16:14
sil2100pitti: is infinity aware of the problems caused by UITK and that we're waiting for this to be fixed?16:14
sil2100bzoltan_: hm, I would say let's release it as it is, as to release staging you'd have to run all the tests, right?16:15
pittisil2100: yes, he asked me to coordinate with you and discuss how we could solve this with you16:15
bzoltan_sil2100: pitti: this MR what you want is not effecting the UITK's functionality at all.. so if you want we can push it to the trunk and land it on a fast track16:15
pittithe pre-compiled docs shouldn't have a runtime impact, as long as the resulting .debs are the same, right?16:15
sil2100bzoltan_: so my idea would be - try getting this to staging as well so that it's merging cleanly and just merge to trunk16:15
sil2100And release16:15
bzoltan_sil2100: pitti: Yes, landing via staging means about 24h16:15
sil2100bzoltan_: ok, the same thing as what I would propose, let's fasttrack it16:16
pittiso we could take the original MP into trunk, and rebase staging?16:16
freerageHi, I'm back with my SMS import from android to touch. I managed to convert the android file to the history.sqlite (text_events) to try out but since then imported sent messages (from self) has a busy icon just in the left of the message...16:16
sil2100pitti: yeah, something like this16:16
bzoltan_pitti:  yes16:16
bzoltan_kalikiana: _PING_16:16
sil2100bzoltan_: should we make an MP targetting trunk and do a silo with that? Sounds ok?16:16
pittiwe have that:16:16
pittihttps://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/generatedApDocs/+merge/25691016:17
pittiso we can land that16:17
bzoltan_sil2100: Yes16:17
sil2100pitti: let's land that - is this a valid MP still? Or does it need to be resubmitted? As it's in the 'Superseeded' state now16:17
kalikianait will have the same licensecheck problems, though16:17
sil2100CI Train won't care about that, but not sure if CI Train will be able to mark it as merged16:17
sil2100kalikiana: I think we'll try to resolve those properly for the staging landing, I would opt for ignoring it for the fast-track landing to unblock vivid16:18
sil2100kalikiana: are those some serious copyright issues? Or just licensecheck making problems?16:18
pittiwe can certainly set the state back to "approved"?16:19
bzoltan_sil2100: Yes, let's fast track it16:19
pittiI can, anyway16:19
kalikianasil2100: the check doesn't recognize the format of the headers - short of that it could ignore the _build folder (works locally), they are MIT as I checked16:19
sil2100pitti: ok, if you can then CI Train bot should be able to as well ;)16:19
sil2100kalikiana: ok, then it's just the script's fault, thanks :)16:19
sil2100pitti: let me create a landing for that16:20
pitticool, thanks16:20
pittisil2100: I saw another landing with an ui-toolkit branch, might that collide?16:20
kalikianasil2100: how do I go about fixing the script? so we'll be able to do a proper landing after this fast-track merge16:20
pittisil2100: ah, not a landing, just in the spreadsheet, so sohuld be fine16:20
sil2100kalikiana: I think we might need to bring it up with CI on #ubuntu-ci-eng16:21
bzoltan_pitti: sil2100: do you guys want to handle this MR?16:22
sil2100bzoltan_: I filled in a landing and assigning a silo :)16:22
pittiif I can help with this, please let me know16:22
sil2100We're all listed as landers so that any of us can react16:22
sil2100hm16:23
sil2100pitti: I need to create a new MP, it's targetting the wrong branch16:23
pittisil2100: the superseded one? that's still wrong?16:23
bzoltan_sil2100: pitti: great! Thanks16:23
sil2100pitti: it's targetting lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-ui-toolkit, should target lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit I suppose16:24
mukais there a way to call the browser-app from bash or python?16:24
sil2100bzoltan_: do you have a moment to help me out in a moment? Since you probably have much more experience to do the -gles changes quickly ;)16:25
bzoltan_sil2100:  I will need to go offline in 10 about ten minutes16:26
sil2100pitti, bzoltan_: new merge https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/generatedApDocs/+merge/25697016:26
bzoltan_sil2100:  but yes16:26
sil2100bzoltan_: ok, no worries, I'll take care of it in case you're not around :)16:26
bzoltan_sil2100:  Just branch the lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit/gles change the silo number in the watch file and dch -i it. Add the same version number as the orig.tar.gz of the main UITK package16:27
bzoltan_sil2100: look for what the actual changelog head says ... follow that one. Nobrainer :)16:27
sil2100bzoltan_: ACK ;) Well, I did that once already, but usually it takes a bit longer for me to make sure nothing is broken16:29
bzoltan_sil2100:  ping me if you need help16:29
sil2100bzoltan_, pitti: ok, I think I have everything properly building now16:46
sil2100bzoltan_, pitti: the -gles counterpart is nor being built as well16:47
pittisil2100: "nor" == "now", I hope? :-) thanks!16:56
sil2100pitti: hah, yeah ;) Typo, I meant 'now' ;p16:56
pittisil2100: hm, sholdn't https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-021/+packages have -gles too?17:25
pittihttps://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-021-1-build/100/console says it uploaded it17:25
sil2100Yeah, I'm wondering about that ;/17:25
pittisil2100: also, note that -gles is in universe, so that one is actually fine17:26
pittiwe don't technically need to change that17:26
pitti(might still be nicer for easier branch handling, but not vivid-critical)17:26
sil2100Well, we generally prefer to keep both in sync, but we can land that later in case it causes problems17:26
pittiyes, just pointing it out17:27
sil2100I wonder iif there was a rejection17:27
sil2100cjwatson: hey! Could you give us a hand and check if the recent -gles upload to silo PPA 021 got rejected? Not sure where the e-mails are sent17:28
cjwatsonsil2100: 2015-04-21 17:22:13 DEBUG   Unable to find ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles_1.2.1485+15.04.20150421.orig.tar.gz in upload or distribution.17:32
sil2100huh? It didn't build it with -sa, but how did this work before actually?17:33
sil2100Let me try uploading that manually17:33
sil2100(not to waste time)17:33
sil2100pitti: ok, now building, phew17:50
sil2100pitti: can you pick this up and poke robru once the silo is built? :)17:50
* sil2100 needs to jump out now17:50
sil2100I'll be back later to check the status17:50
sil2100robru: ^ if you could publish silo 21 ASAP it would be cool17:50
robrusil2100: sure17:51
pittirobru: thanks; we need to get out of the office soon as well17:51
kenvandineElleo, i updated the content-hub test plan to test ebooks with beru now, instead of that test click17:51
kenvandineberu with content-hub support is in the store now17:51
kenvandineElleo, and my serialized_content_transfers branch is ready for review now17:52
robrupitti: actually core devs have permission to publish silos, but yes I'm around, just ping me when it's ready17:53
robrupitti: actually what is the rush? Are you wanting to build an image immediately after it publishes?17:55
pittirobru: yes17:56
pittirobru: as it's on the ubuntu images, and we need to get a candidate for the final release17:56
Elleokenvandine: okay, cool; will review in the morning :)17:56
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kenvandineElleo, thx17:57
robrupitti: ok.17:58
pittirobru: so I see -gles is building18:00
pittirobru: so if you could publish those after they are built, I'd be grateful18:00
robrupitti: yes, i will18:00
pittirobru: we need to leave the office now, sorry18:00
pittirobru: cool, thanks18:00
robrupitti: should i be publishing to vivid or the overlay PPA?18:01
pittirobru: to vivid please, that's the entire point of the exercise :)18:01
pittikalikiana, bzoltan_, robru: many thanks for your fast help!18:01
robrupitti: need merges approved: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-021-2-publish/48/console18:12
robrubzoltan_: ^18:12
SturmFlutI suppose the "H" indicator icon tells me that my phone thinks it has a 3.5G connection, an IP address and a matching IP route, right?18:51
popeyHSDPA ya.18:53
SturmFlutpopey: Okay, because just now my bq displayed the "H" indicator, but didn't have an IP address nor a route. WiFi was and is off. I toggled flight mode and now it has an IP address and a route.18:54
popeyknown bug i think18:55
SturmFlutpopey: Do you remember the bug description or even the number? I am browsing through bug reports for network-manager but there's nearly a thousand18:59
* SturmFlut especially likes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/138813018:59
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1388130 in System76 "Cannot connect to WiFi with Nvidia GPU using nvidia-331, SSD" [Critical,Triaged]18:59
dobeySturmFlut: i think you want to look at indicator-network for relevant bugs19:00
SturmFlutpopey: I think the known issue we're thinking about was https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg11187.html19:12
SturmFlutmzanetti: Ping19:13
mzanettiSturmFlut, hey19:13
SturmFlutmzanetti: Do you remember if there was a matching Launchpad bug for this report?19:13
SturmFlutmzanetti: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg11194.html19:14
mzanettiawe_, ^19:14
awe_SturmFlut, https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/143532819:16
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1435328 in ofono (Ubuntu RTM) "Leaving Wifi does not connect to mobile carrier data (GSM)" [Critical,In progress]19:16
mzanettiSturmFlut, I've reported this but apparently there are multiple different things and I lost track about them19:16
awe_there are multiple bugs with respect to the mobile data connection failing after toggling off wifi, leaving wifi ap range, or just letting the phone idle when on mobile data19:16
awe_we believe we have a fix for the root cause of all these issues19:17
awe_we have a fix in a silo, and are testing as we speak19:17
mzanettinice :)19:17
mzanettithanks awe_19:17
awe_unfortunately I can't give an accurate estimate of when we'll release the hotfix, but pretty sure it will be soon19:17
awe_( hopefully in the next week; but no promises )19:18
SturmFlutawe_: Nice, thanks! I just wanted to know if it is being handled, I can wait for a fix.19:23
awe_yw19:24
awe_keep an eye on the bug for more updates19:24
SturmFlutawe_: I just subscribed to it19:25
awe_ok, great19:25
lolcatHello19:40
lolcatdoes it work with Lumia 640?19:40
SturmFlutlolcat: Sadly no19:41
lolcatDammit19:43
lolcatAs far as I can tell the preformance to price ratio on that is awesome, but how would I live with windows on a phone?19:43
SturmFlutlolcat: Yeah, the price is incredible, but those Windows phones are pretty locked down19:43
SturmFlutIn contrast to Windows tablets19:44
lolcatSturmFlut: so it is just the bootloader that is the issue? Not the drivers?19:45
dobeylolcat: if you could get Android 4.4 running on it, then you could theoretically also get Ubuntu running on it.19:46
dobeylolcat: if Android 4.4 won't run on it, it's not likely you'll get an Ubuntu phone image working on it19:46
k1llolcat: "just the bootloader" is a huge barrier.19:50
lolcatk1l: I don't quite understand how that works. Like little children broke xbox and playstation19:51
k1llolcat: total different level on the arm stuff in smartphones19:51
lolcatk1l: I always thought of ARM as an trivially simple architecture19:52
k1lyou cant just flash a new firmware to the bootloader and you are good to go. its all that secureboot stuff etc.19:52
lolcatk1l: looks like xda can flash any lumnia19:58
SturmFlutlolcat: ...with something other than Windows?20:00
lolcatSturmFlut: not entirely sure20:00
lolcatI have 3g so I cant load unlimited webpages, arrgh20:01
lolcatI should order me some 35/35mbit internet20:01
k1lsince we dont have generic drivers for all the stuff inside the smartphones its a real pain to get that stuff work20:01
k1land the manufacturers only provide blobs and not the sources.20:01
lolcatUse the blobs then?20:02
dobeywe do20:04
dobeybut i doubt MS has blobs for the Android 4.4 kernel, for drivers for a windows phone20:05
dobeybut hey, maybe they published an AOSP tree for their phone20:05
lolcatdobey: use windows blobs then?20:15
dobeylolcat: that isn't possible.20:16
lolcatdobey: #reactos begs to differ20:17
dobeylolcat: then go bug them to get running on a lumia phone?20:17
lolcatdobey: Reactos is a terrible idea and their devs are slower than a glacier20:18
k1ldobey: dont compare x86 with arm when it comes to drivers etc.20:19
k1lerm, lolcat was meant20:19
dobeyit's not linux, either. it's a reverse engineered implementation of the entire windows system.20:19
dobeyand i'm pretty sure windows server 2003 didn't support arm20:19
lolcatk1l: Not that different20:20
lolcatdobey: I am just pointing out the windows phone thing can be reverse engeneered20:20
k1llolcat: sorry. that is just plain wrong20:21
dobeylolcat: sure, feel free to spend your time tearing the hardware apart and reverse engineering it then :)20:21
lolcatdobey: not the hardware the windows phone kernel so we can use the driver blobs20:21
dobeylolcat: well apparently you already know what all needs to be done, so nothing we can answer you in here :)20:22
lolcatI am not that dedicated, I guess I will just buy one phone with ubuntu-touch allready20:23
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