daftykins | mysqld is top of top (tee-hee) at 13.7% mem used 0o | 00:00 |
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diddledan | that's 60MB for mysqld? | 00:01 |
daftykins | looking at some google results they're talking about tweaking some settings | 00:01 |
daftykins | http://askubuntu.com/questions/534793/mysqld-is-suddenly-taking-too-much-memory-and-my-laptop-is-getting-hotter | 00:02 |
diddledan | now speaking of rams - why are all the search server things (namely elasticsearch and solr) based on java?! | 00:02 |
ali1234 | java is hugely popular in that space | 00:02 |
diddledan | indeed | 00:02 |
diddledan | surely someone's ported lucene elesewhere tho? | 00:02 |
ali1234 | probaly because those things are always going to be big and complicated and require huge teams to build | 00:03 |
ali1234 | and that is where java excels | 00:03 |
diddledan | I guess | 00:03 |
diddledan | what I don't get tho, to tie in to elasticsearch there's the logstash thing, which is written in ruby, and run with jruby because JAVA | 00:03 |
ali1234 | i couldn't eve figure out how to set up either of those two search tools | 00:04 |
diddledan | I just can't work out why you'd take ruby and run it in java | 00:04 |
ali1234 | because the developers write a huge complicated server thing that nobody can understand using java | 00:05 |
ali1234 | and then devops writes a bunch of scripts to make it usable in ruby | 00:05 |
ali1234 | then those scripts get folded back into the project | 00:05 |
diddledan | that's just it tho - logstash is essentially completely separate | 00:05 |
ali1234 | yes, exactly | 00:05 |
diddledan | it talks to logstash via http | 00:06 |
diddledan | erm | 00:06 |
diddledan | logstash talks to elastic | 00:06 |
ali1234 | if you have a full java stack where everything is written in java, you probably don't want to set up a whole parallel infrastructure to run ruby things | 00:06 |
ali1234 | you're just going to make it run on what you alread have | 00:07 |
ali1234 | all of this stuff boils down to lazyness in the end :) | 00:07 |
diddledan | lol | 00:07 |
daftykins | http://www.tocker.ca/2014/03/10/configuring-mysql-to-use-minimal-memory.html | 00:08 |
daftykins | this seems handy | 00:08 |
daftykins | ooh neat that cut it nicely | 00:16 |
diddledan | oh poo | 00:17 |
daftykins | 170MB at boot \o/ | 00:17 |
diddledan | samba 4 active directory: "The internal DNS backend currently needs a restart of Samba to take effect. See bug report #9404" | 00:17 |
diddledan | specifically when you add a new dns zone | 00:17 |
daftykins | that a problem to restart? | 00:17 |
diddledan | it's annoying to remember | 00:18 |
diddledan | different interface | 00:18 |
diddledan | I'm using freenas right now as my dc | 00:19 |
diddledan | means to restart samba I need to go to the webadmin and find the right button and flip it | 00:19 |
daftykins | 76MB free instead of 7MB :D | 00:20 |
diddledan | it isn't obvious that you need to restart it because records in already created zones reload fine when changed or added | 00:20 |
diddledan | but new zones need a restart | 00:20 |
daftykins | funky! | 00:20 |
diddledan | it's made even weirder because there's two backends for dns - an internal-to-samba one or an optional bind plugin called bind-dlz - the latter one does NOT require any restarts for new zones | 00:22 |
diddledan | confused yet? | 00:22 |
daftykins | totally | 00:22 |
diddledan | maybe I should suggest freenas move over to use bind :-p | 00:22 |
daftykins | you had me lost at using a domain *whistle* | 00:23 |
daftykins | :D | 00:23 |
* diddledan blows raspberries | 00:23 | |
diddledan | mmpie | 00:23 |
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knightwise | morning peeps | 05:12 |
zmoylan-pi | o/ | 05:20 |
MooDoo | morning all | 06:59 |
knightwise | morning MooDoo diddledan | 07:28 |
knightwise | morning diplo | 07:28 |
diddledan | allo | 07:28 |
knightwise | hacked a tupperware box into a case for my raspberry pi2 :) | 07:30 |
knightwise | Finally a good use for that tupperware evening i had to sit through last year | 07:30 |
knightwise | does the latest Ubuntu image still fit on a cd ? | 07:38 |
diddledan | nope | 07:38 |
SuperMatt | hasn't done for a while | 07:38 |
knightwise | ok | 07:40 |
knightwise | 29 inch ultrawide monitor is realy handy :) | 07:44 |
knightwise | Got an elementary vm running side by side with a browser ... | 07:44 |
diddledan | yeah, that would be nice | 07:44 |
knightwise | transition between the native os and elementary vm is so smooth the whole vm just feels like just another app window | 07:45 |
diplo | Good morning all! | 07:54 |
knightwise | hey diplo | 07:59 |
knightwise | hmm. just saw that you can run popcorn time on the raspberry pi2 :) Worth looking at | 07:59 |
diplo | I'm dubious about popcorn time :) | 08:09 |
diplo | I'd love to have everything that is available via torrents on a netflix style thing, would even pay £20-30 a month for it instead of the netflix £6 but it's never going to happen | 08:10 |
popey | popcorn time is just a pretty interface to torrents, that's all | 08:11 |
knightwise | popey: indeed | 08:11 |
knightwise | and its DAMN handy :) | 08:11 |
diplo | yeah I know, but doesn't netflix use some sort of p2p to share some bandwith as well | 08:12 |
diplo | Japans Maglev train hit a new world record, 375MPH !! | 08:14 |
popey | no | 08:16 |
popey | netflix has a large content delivery network | 08:16 |
davmor2 | diplo: Netflix uses Ubuntu on Amazon Cloud as I understand it | 08:18 |
TwistedLucidity | knightwise: But one is still subject to the legal impacts, no? | 08:22 |
diplo | ah right, I thought I read somewhere a while ago they used some of your bandwidth to.. probably something else :) | 08:22 |
knightwise | TwistedLucidity: true. | 08:22 |
diddledan | I'm getting silly with my network | 08:22 |
diddledan | I've now got an amazon virtual private cloud subnet vpning to home and home vpning to several other servers and them all sharing routing info via bgp | 08:23 |
diddledan | I honestly don't really understand it but it's working | 08:23 |
TwistedLucidity | With Sony strong-arming Netflix, HBO Now cutting off VPN users...it's lioke peolpe don't understand that a global network is, well, *GLOBAL*. Trying to impose geopgraphic restrictions makes little sense. | 08:24 |
TwistedLucidity | Getting annoyed at people using VPNs to access cheaper/blocked content also makes little sense - that's simply the free-marketing correcting itself. | 08:24 |
TwistedLucidity | diddledan: A home VPN is pretty nifty. Great for tunneling over free WiFi to avoid the snooping | 08:25 |
diddledan | TwistedLucidity: my plan is to be able to vpn into my home network and instantly get access to all my servers via their private-space ip addresses (my vpc has dev servers that aren't exposed to the world) | 08:26 |
diplo | ah just googled it, they were looking to employ someone to implement p2p technology in their product mid last year | 08:27 |
diddledan | diplo: that probably won't work in the browser tho? | 08:27 |
knightwise | diddledan: why not use Shuttle ? | 08:27 |
knightwise | sshuttle | 08:27 |
diddledan | shuttle? | 08:28 |
diplo | Probably not, it was a job posting... so realy detail | 08:28 |
diplo | so really no detail* | 08:28 |
knightwise | vpn over ssh , you can tunnel all your traffic thrpooufh one point into your network | 08:29 |
diddledan | that's not layer3 tho | 08:29 |
knightwise | its a socks5 proxy | 08:30 |
knightwise | well ,its a little more then that | 08:30 |
diddledan | yeah I want routing | 08:30 |
diddledan | and auto config | 08:30 |
diddledan | e.g. if I add another subnet it will magically appear on all my connected systems' routing tables | 08:31 |
diddledan | (bgp is what the big boys use) | 08:32 |
knightwise | that i dont know | 08:32 |
diddledan | the majority of the internet's backbone relies on the same tech I'm using | 08:32 |
foobarry | cat before the internet: http://shop.bl.uk/mall/productpage.cfm/BritishLibrary/_ISBN_9780712358187/-/Medieval-Cats-%28hardback%29 | 08:35 |
brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:39 |
TwistedLucidity | Had cause to try out OSMC (the new RaspBMC) on a B+ Pi last night; rather neat it is too. | 08:41 |
TwistedLucidity | Based off of Debain so, unlike on OpenElec, I could install Perl and have get_iplayer.cgi running. | 08:42 |
TwistedLucidity | It's maybe a wee bitty slower than OpenElec, but I can't see that making much odds on a Pi 2. | 08:43 |
TwistedLucidity | Only negative I can think of is the Kodi skin. Looks very Windows and the menus are vertical; which is (IMHO) dumb on a TV that is wider than it is tall. | 08:44 |
TwistedLucidity | Check it out if you want: https://osmc.tv/ | 08:44 |
awilkins | Annoyance : why does libegl1-mesa:i386 depend on libwayland-server0:i386 ?? | 08:53 |
awilkins | Or do I just have a borked up apt database? | 08:53 |
* awilkins does apt-get update | 08:54 | |
awilkins | Ok, it still depends on libwayland-server0 but the dependency chain isn't broken now | 08:54 |
JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Kindergarten Day! :-D | 09:06 |
* zmoylan-pi hands out the tin cups to the inmates at the kindergarten... | 09:07 | |
diddledan | \o/ | 09:10 |
foobarry | just bougth myself one of those xiaomi mi band | 09:13 |
foobarry | steps and sleep traker | 09:14 |
foobarry | ugh my typing is broken | 09:14 |
zmoylan-pi | OR the band is heavy... :-) | 09:14 |
foobarry | it will take some weeks to arrive :( | 09:14 |
foobarry | because i am a cheapskate | 09:15 |
foobarry | or patient | 09:15 |
foobarry | ...enforced patience | 09:15 |
zmoylan-pi | wow, that's really heavy... /best hippie accent | 09:15 |
directhex_ | i have a fitbit | 09:15 |
JamesTait | zmoylan-pi, far be it from me to make any comparisons between the behaviour typically found in a kindergarten and that found in certain communities or exhibited by certain prominent public figures. | 09:16 |
foobarry | directhex_: how much did you pay? | 09:18 |
directhex_ | £120 | 09:18 |
TwistedLucidity | >.< | 09:18 |
directhex_ | trackers w/ heart rate monitoring aren't cheap | 09:18 |
foobarry | ah wow, that has gps too? | 09:19 |
directhex_ | nope. next model up has gps | 09:19 |
foobarry | man thats ££ | 09:19 |
zmoylan-pi | and if you only saw how much they cost AFTER you started wearing them it would be a great calibration test... :-P | 09:19 |
TwistedLucidity | Connect it to your insurance company and get discount on life insurance (read: invade your own privacy to save 50p a month!) | 09:19 |
diddledan | zmoylan-pi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki7VqBmkf7M | 09:19 |
directhex_ | i've lost more than a stone so far | 09:19 |
directhex_ | so *shrug* it works | 09:20 |
foobarry | i don't need to lose weight :( | 09:20 |
foobarry | rather the opposite | 09:20 |
foobarry | its so easy to lose weight, so hard to gain | 09:20 |
directhex_ | i'm overweight | 09:20 |
directhex_ | i'm losing weight, whilst eating cheeseburgers. great diet! | 09:20 |
TwistedLucidity | I'm happy with my weight, I just need the mass to migrate from where it is to where I'd rather it was | 09:20 |
* TwistedLucidity prods belly | 09:20 | |
TwistedLucidity | foobarry: Eat more, move less. | 09:21 |
directhex_ | i was concerned about health, so decided to get my BMI down to "normal" | 09:21 |
directhex_ | also, i'm sick of 38" waist jeans | 09:21 |
TwistedLucidity | Although that'll be fat you gain...which may not be the best idea | 09:21 |
foobarry | i was hoping to gain some over easter but my daughter caught a D&V bug | 09:22 |
foobarry | which we all caught | 09:22 |
TwistedLucidity | directhex_: Wear stilts then recalculate BMI. Problem solved! | 09:22 |
foobarry | hence lose 1/2 stone | 09:22 |
zmoylan-pi | fun for all the family :-/ | 09:22 |
directhex_ | d&v is a great weight-loss regimen! | 09:22 |
directhex_ | so is a tapeworm! | 09:22 |
directhex_ | for me though, it's been more exercise & less cake | 09:23 |
zmoylan-pi | just make sure the wifi extends to the loo with backup reading material printed on soft paper | 09:23 |
foobarry | how many steps a day are you doing? | 09:23 |
directhex_ | usually only 7500. but i'm doing 40 minutes a day on the exercise bike | 09:23 |
foobarry | i wonder when it will get to teh point that your doctor asks to see your steps count | 09:24 |
TwistedLucidity | foobarry: More worrying, when will your insurance company demand to see it | 09:24 |
foobarry | fitbit can't really understand cycling except for heart rate i guess | 09:24 |
directhex_ | foobarry: hence the hrart rate model! | 09:24 |
zmoylan-pi | can't strap it to you leg... | 09:24 |
TwistedLucidity | It would be kinda tricky, especially with the gearing etc | 09:25 |
TwistedLucidity | Wonder what it would make of a martial arts class....although watches etc normally have to be removed for safety | 09:25 |
foobarry | when i get my xiaomi i want to calibrate it against a person with 2 other devices | 09:25 |
directhex_ | TwistedLucidity: heart rate monitoring is enough IME. also a surprising number of calories in housework | 09:26 |
zmoylan-pi | i got a water proof/shock proof watch with a bunch of sensors (temp/pressure/compass etc.) in early 00s. it didn't survive fencing | 09:26 |
TwistedLucidity | directhex_: Yeah...don't have to tell me that. Also the slow-burn of housework means you can sustain it for much longer | 09:26 |
TwistedLucidity | More calories in having to break, shovel and then carry goodness knows how much dirt. | 09:27 |
TwistedLucidity | DIY-blog | 09:27 |
foobarry | gardening is serious work | 09:28 |
foobarry | had to move a rose bush the other day | 09:28 |
foobarry | at 9pm | 09:28 |
foobarry | i was in my tshirt | 09:28 |
zmoylan-pi | and with all these health trackers it's only a matter of time before all the data is been requested in divorce cases... http://www.wired.com/2014/12/wearables-in-court/ | 09:29 |
foobarry | a great upgrade for twitter would be to allow tweets from some users only during certain window. e.g. if i wanna follow tfl or my train company, i only want to see tweets sent between my commuting hrs | 09:29 |
foobarry | or hopefully in the future google now will read them and only tell me if bad things.. | 09:29 |
diplo | I just use lists for stuff like that now foobarry | 09:30 |
diplo | Never look at the main stream | 09:30 |
zmoylan-pi | that would assume the train company doesn't send tweets about the wild cat strike to their customers the night before so they can make alternate plans | 09:30 |
TwistedLucidity | If it's important, I bally well expect the train company to have a page sent to my door with the missive! | 09:31 |
foobarry | how do the lists work | 09:31 |
foobarry | are they customised searches? | 09:31 |
TwistedLucidity | foobarry: Usually one thing after another. :-P | 09:31 |
foobarry | for people you don't subscribe/follow? | 09:31 |
zmoylan-pi | lists are just a list of accounts you want to follow. i use them for specific typese of news. then read those lists when i'm in the mood or looking for a particular story | 09:31 |
davmor2 | JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ucfgdFrlho | 09:31 |
foobarry | do i have to follow them first? | 09:32 |
foobarry | how do i get them out of my main feed? | 09:32 |
zmoylan-pi | nope, beside the follow button on the web page there's a gizmo that allows you to add them to list | 09:32 |
zmoylan-pi | then unfollow them. leaving them in the list | 09:32 |
TwistedLucidity | Too much junk on Twitter. Used it for a month and then gave up due to all the "spam" (i.e. twits that I had no interest in) | 09:32 |
foobarry | i have 3 accounts | 09:33 |
zmoylan-pi | i have my timeline now just personal friends and 1-2 local news feeds for travel. gardai and dublin bus. | 09:33 |
foobarry | hence i have to use plume to read twitter | 09:33 |
foobarry | so maybe i just need lists instead | 09:33 |
zmoylan-pi | tweetdeck on laptop is optimal | 09:34 |
zmoylan-pi | lists is the poor mans version of plume/tweetdeck | 09:34 |
zmoylan-pi | you can add a list to an alternate list in plume | 09:34 |
zmoylan-pi | *alternate column | 09:34 |
foobarry | i wanna ditch plume soon | 09:42 |
foobarry | which should be possible with lists | 09:42 |
zmoylan-pi | has gotten crashy recently for me | 09:42 |
foobarry | twitter official client won't mux together various accounts into one feed | 09:42 |
foobarry | plume doesn't show vines or gifs and the ads are annoying | 09:43 |
foobarry | its not good enough to buy for the price they want | 09:43 |
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knightwise | Ubuntu doesnt run that bad on the pi2 | 10:56 |
bashrc_ | I think pi2 is quad core. Should be ok | 11:15 |
awilkins | Yeah, it has a GB of RAM as well | 11:16 |
TwistedLucidity | Can even do virtualisation 8-O | 11:16 |
directhex_ | pi2 still lacks I/O acceleration, so is still sorta bad | 11:17 |
directhex_ | but it's a definite improvement | 11:17 |
popey | \o/ left over gammon in a sandwich for lunch | 11:17 |
zmoylan-pi | green ham and eggs? :-) | 11:19 |
popey | mustard / may and ham | 11:19 |
davmor2 | popey: but it's april :D | 11:21 |
popey | and it's sunny! | 11:21 |
zmoylan-pi | snow forecast for the weekend i think | 11:22 |
davmor2 | popey: shhhh you might scare it away :D | 11:22 |
popey | \o/ | 11:22 |
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ne2k | I am running trusty in a KVM vm (Proxmox 3.3, third party platform, can't change). It runs happily for a short while and then goes to 100% CPU and will not accept any input nor an ACPI shutdown. any suggestions as to how to go about further debugging of this? | 15:40 |
intrbiz | ne2k: is the VM doing anything before it goes 100% and effectively offline? or is it an idle, blank VM? | 15:43 |
ne2k | intrbiz, it's just a clean install of trusty x86_64 server | 15:44 |
ne2k | intrbiz, with the latest updates | 15:44 |
intrbiz | ne2k: with nothing running? | 15:44 |
ne2k | intrbiz, nothing that I've added | 15:44 |
ne2k | intrbiz, there are obviously quite a few system services running, obviously | 15:44 |
intrbiz | ne2k: sure, do you have any access to the console? | 15:45 |
ne2k | intrbiz, it has a single virtio disk and a single virtio network card | 15:45 |
ne2k | intrbiz, I have access to the console of the VM, not the hypervisor | 15:45 |
intrbiz | ne2k: is there anything on the console when it crashes? | 15:46 |
ne2k | intrbiz, no, just the login prompt as it woudl normally be, and the cursor is no longer flashing | 15:47 |
ne2k | after a reboot, I checked syslog and there was nothing before the crash, just the once-an-hour "MARK" and then nothing | 15:47 |
intrbiz | ne2k: can your provider setup a serial console for the VM logging to a file? | 15:50 |
intrbiz | ne2k: as a way to try and get a kernel trace if it is panicing | 15:50 |
ne2k | intrbiz, they possibly could. not sure if it would help | 15:50 |
ne2k | intrbiz, is there any setup from the guest side to enable that? | 15:51 |
intrbiz | ne2k: just a kernel parameter to add to the boot line | 15:53 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | Whats the q&A channel? >.< | 16:18 |
ne2k | ChloeWolfieGirl, whu? | 16:18 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | Just wondering what the ubuntu q&A channel is. | 16:19 |
ne2k | ChloeWolfieGirl, I'm not sure what that means. this is a channel in which you can ask questions, and if people can answer them, they will try to | 16:20 |
ChloeWolfieGirl | Found it, #ubuntu-on-air I was looking for Q&A | 16:22 |
ne2k | fair enough. never heard of it | 16:22 |
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directhex_ | woo, wife's new handbag seems to have arrived in the UK from taiwan | 19:48 |
diddledan | yippee? | 19:49 |
foobarry | is windows 2003 server EOL soon? | 19:49 |
diddledan | I belive so, foobarry | 19:50 |
directhex_ | diddledan: of course yippee. it's amaaazing | 19:50 |
directhex_ | https://www.jumpfrompaper.com/europe/originals/backpack/spaceman/ | 19:50 |
diddledan | directhex_: in that case then, "yippee!" | 19:50 |
diddledan | that makes my eyes go screwey | 19:51 |
directhex_ | :D | 19:51 |
diddledan | I'm not sure that it's green though | 19:51 |
directhex_ | now i'm waiting on new computer parts. which should arrive tomorrow -> monday | 19:52 |
diddledan | (hover over the left-hand colour swatch) | 19:52 |
diddledan | apparently cyan is now green | 19:52 |
diddledan | anyway, back to testing my wordpress plugins | 19:54 |
daftykins | foobarry: yep June or July | 20:00 |
daftykins | 2003 R2 as well | 20:00 |
daftykins | SBS 2003 is already dead afaiui | 20:00 |
directhex_ | cool kids already upgraded their servers to windows 10 tech preview | 20:03 |
daftykins | ;) | 20:04 |
daftykins | most of those have been in #ubuntu having tried to multiboot but ended up wiping the entire disk *giggle* | 20:04 |
diddledan | daftykins: you sadist | 20:05 |
daftykins | why am i when it's them doing it XD | 20:05 |
diddledan | lol | 20:05 |
diddledan | because you're laughing at them | 20:05 |
directhex_ | i'm gonna run 10 on my new pc | 20:05 |
diddledan | directhex_: \o/ | 20:06 |
directhex_ | use the tech preview for now, then buy it in a couple of months | 20:06 |
directhex_ | buying 8 now is dumb | 20:06 |
daftykins | that and 8 being terrible | 20:06 |
daftykins | ;D | 20:06 |
directhex_ | this old box has a vista home basic oem license :D | 20:07 |
directhex_ | also win7 pro and win8 pro upgrades. but still... | 20:08 |
daftykins | erk! | 20:08 |
daftykins | i am curious as to how this Windows 10 upgrade 'free' -ness will work | 20:08 |
diddledan | it's apparently being baked into windows update as an optional install | 20:09 |
daftykins | blech, i want ISOs | 20:09 |
directhex_ | installing 8.1 on this pc: install vista basic. insert win8 install dvd, boot, wipe vista partition. go trhough windows update & reboot 3 or 4 times, until 8.1 appears in app store. windows update another 10 times | 20:09 |
daftykins | that can be clean installed from | 20:09 |
directhex_ | daftykins: precisely why i'm buying 10, not 8 then upgrading | 20:09 |
daftykins | mmm 8 has got to have the worst setup for updating in history | 20:10 |
daftykins | you can't even download installers to make it easier, since they still offer you a bunch of updates that must be installed in sequence | 20:10 |
directhex_ | got a win10 installer usb stick prepped | 20:11 |
directhex_ | new pc parts should mostly arrive tomorrow. wife can help with the build | 20:11 |
daftykins | how high spec are you going? haswell-E? :D | 20:12 |
diddledan | yey for shared pursuits! | 20:12 |
daftykins | hehe, i've had to tell off my dear lady friend for thinking molex to floppy converters are 4-pin mobo fan header to molex fan adapters ;) | 20:12 |
diddledan | erk | 20:13 |
daftykins | still, can see how you'd think that if you'd never built in the floppy era | 20:13 |
diddledan | whatever you do, don't think they're mobo fan to hdd power :-p | 20:13 |
daftykins | XD | 20:13 |
directhex_ | daftykins: haswell-e. | 20:15 |
daftykins | rawr | 20:15 |
directhex_ | i7-5820k, gtx 980, 960gb ssd, 32gb ddr4 | 20:16 |
directhex_ | in festive red & black | 20:16 |
daftykins | crikey, that'll be some £ | 20:16 |
directhex_ | yep | 20:17 |
directhex_ | good job i took out some extra when i got a loan to buy the volt | 20:17 |
daftykins | XD | 20:17 |
directhex_ | saving the planet w/ new car... killing it w/ new pc | 20:18 |
diddledan | vmware, huh? "This license key can be deployed on an unlimited number of physical hosts, but is restricted to deployment on less than or equal to 0 Physical Servers." | 20:42 |
diddledan | so what's the difference between a host and a server? | 20:43 |
diddledan | in terms of vmware esxi, I mean | 20:43 |
daftykins | diddledan: that could well be the most confusing statement i've ever read | 21:13 |
diddledan | great, huh? | 21:31 |
daftykins | diddledan: did you work it out yet? | 21:34 |
diddledan | nope | 21:34 |
daftykins | is it a statement from a web-based account that's just broken, maybe? | 21:35 |
diddledan | it's the output from vmware.com on the download page | 21:36 |
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