[00:00] mysqld is top of top (tee-hee) at 13.7% mem used 0o [00:01] that's 60MB for mysqld? [00:01] looking at some google results they're talking about tweaking some settings [00:02] http://askubuntu.com/questions/534793/mysqld-is-suddenly-taking-too-much-memory-and-my-laptop-is-getting-hotter [00:02] now speaking of rams - why are all the search server things (namely elasticsearch and solr) based on java?! [00:02] java is hugely popular in that space [00:02] indeed [00:02] surely someone's ported lucene elesewhere tho? [00:03] probaly because those things are always going to be big and complicated and require huge teams to build [00:03] and that is where java excels [00:03] I guess [00:03] what I don't get tho, to tie in to elasticsearch there's the logstash thing, which is written in ruby, and run with jruby because JAVA [00:04] i couldn't eve figure out how to set up either of those two search tools [00:04] I just can't work out why you'd take ruby and run it in java [00:05] because the developers write a huge complicated server thing that nobody can understand using java [00:05] and then devops writes a bunch of scripts to make it usable in ruby [00:05] then those scripts get folded back into the project [00:05] that's just it tho - logstash is essentially completely separate [00:05] yes, exactly [00:06] it talks to logstash via http [00:06] erm [00:06] logstash talks to elastic [00:06] if you have a full java stack where everything is written in java, you probably don't want to set up a whole parallel infrastructure to run ruby things [00:07] you're just going to make it run on what you alread have [00:07] all of this stuff boils down to lazyness in the end :) [00:07] lol [00:08] http://www.tocker.ca/2014/03/10/configuring-mysql-to-use-minimal-memory.html [00:08] this seems handy [00:16] ooh neat that cut it nicely [00:17] oh poo [00:17] 170MB at boot \o/ [00:17] samba 4 active directory: "The internal DNS backend currently needs a restart of Samba to take effect. See bug report #9404" [00:17] specifically when you add a new dns zone [00:17] that a problem to restart? [00:18] it's annoying to remember [00:18] different interface [00:19] I'm using freenas right now as my dc [00:19] means to restart samba I need to go to the webadmin and find the right button and flip it [00:20] 76MB free instead of 7MB :D [00:20] it isn't obvious that you need to restart it because records in already created zones reload fine when changed or added [00:20] but new zones need a restart [00:20] funky! [00:22] it's made even weirder because there's two backends for dns - an internal-to-samba one or an optional bind plugin called bind-dlz - the latter one does NOT require any restarts for new zones [00:22] confused yet? [00:22] totally [00:22] maybe I should suggest freenas move over to use bind :-p [00:23] you had me lost at using a domain *whistle* [00:23] :D [00:23] * diddledan blows raspberries [00:23] mmpie === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [05:12] morning peeps [05:20] o/ [06:59] morning all [07:28] morning MooDoo diddledan [07:28] morning diplo [07:28] allo [07:30] hacked a tupperware box into a case for my raspberry pi2 :) [07:30] Finally a good use for that tupperware evening i had to sit through last year [07:38] does the latest Ubuntu image still fit on a cd ? [07:38] nope [07:38] hasn't done for a while [07:40] ok [07:44] 29 inch ultrawide monitor is realy handy :) [07:44] Got an elementary vm running side by side with a browser ... [07:44] yeah, that would be nice [07:45] transition between the native os and elementary vm is so smooth the whole vm just feels like just another app window [07:54] Good morning all! [07:59] hey diplo [07:59] hmm. just saw that you can run popcorn time on the raspberry pi2 :) Worth looking at [08:09] I'm dubious about popcorn time :) [08:10] I'd love to have everything that is available via torrents on a netflix style thing, would even pay £20-30 a month for it instead of the netflix £6 but it's never going to happen [08:11] popcorn time is just a pretty interface to torrents, that's all [08:11] popey: indeed [08:11] and its DAMN handy :) [08:12] yeah I know, but doesn't netflix use some sort of p2p to share some bandwith as well [08:14] Japans Maglev train hit a new world record, 375MPH !! [08:16] no [08:16] netflix has a large content delivery network [08:18] diplo: Netflix uses Ubuntu on Amazon Cloud as I understand it [08:22] knightwise: But one is still subject to the legal impacts, no? [08:22] ah right, I thought I read somewhere a while ago they used some of your bandwidth to.. probably something else :) [08:22] TwistedLucidity: true. [08:22] I'm getting silly with my network [08:23] I've now got an amazon virtual private cloud subnet vpning to home and home vpning to several other servers and them all sharing routing info via bgp [08:23] I honestly don't really understand it but it's working [08:24] With Sony strong-arming Netflix, HBO Now cutting off VPN users...it's lioke peolpe don't understand that a global network is, well, *GLOBAL*. Trying to impose geopgraphic restrictions makes little sense. [08:24] Getting annoyed at people using VPNs to access cheaper/blocked content also makes little sense - that's simply the free-marketing correcting itself. [08:25] diddledan: A home VPN is pretty nifty. Great for tunneling over free WiFi to avoid the snooping [08:26] TwistedLucidity: my plan is to be able to vpn into my home network and instantly get access to all my servers via their private-space ip addresses (my vpc has dev servers that aren't exposed to the world) [08:27] ah just googled it, they were looking to employ someone to implement p2p technology in their product mid last year [08:27] diplo: that probably won't work in the browser tho? [08:27] diddledan: why not use Shuttle ? [08:27] sshuttle [08:28] shuttle? [08:28] Probably not, it was a job posting... so realy detail [08:28] so really no detail* [08:29] vpn over ssh , you can tunnel all your traffic thrpooufh one point into your network [08:29] that's not layer3 tho [08:30] its a socks5 proxy [08:30] well ,its a little more then that [08:30] yeah I want routing [08:30] and auto config [08:31] e.g. if I add another subnet it will magically appear on all my connected systems' routing tables [08:32] (bgp is what the big boys use) [08:32] that i dont know [08:32] the majority of the internet's backbone relies on the same tech I'm using [08:35] cat before the internet: http://shop.bl.uk/mall/productpage.cfm/BritishLibrary/_ISBN_9780712358187/-/Medieval-Cats-%28hardback%29 [08:39] morning boys and girls. [08:41] Had cause to try out OSMC (the new RaspBMC) on a B+ Pi last night; rather neat it is too. [08:42] Based off of Debain so, unlike on OpenElec, I could install Perl and have get_iplayer.cgi running. [08:43] It's maybe a wee bitty slower than OpenElec, but I can't see that making much odds on a Pi 2. [08:44] Only negative I can think of is the Kodi skin. Looks very Windows and the menus are vertical; which is (IMHO) dumb on a TV that is wider than it is tall. [08:44] Check it out if you want: https://osmc.tv/ [08:53] Annoyance : why does libegl1-mesa:i386 depend on libwayland-server0:i386 ?? [08:53] Or do I just have a borked up apt database? [08:54] * awilkins does apt-get update [08:54] Ok, it still depends on libwayland-server0 but the dependency chain isn't broken now [09:06] Good morning all; happy Kindergarten Day! :-D [09:07] * zmoylan-pi hands out the tin cups to the inmates at the kindergarten... [09:10] \o/ [09:13] just bougth myself one of those xiaomi mi band [09:14] steps and sleep traker [09:14] ugh my typing is broken [09:14] OR the band is heavy... :-) [09:14] it will take some weeks to arrive :( [09:15] because i am a cheapskate [09:15] or patient [09:15] ...enforced patience [09:15] wow, that's really heavy... /best hippie accent [09:15] i have a fitbit [09:16] zmoylan-pi, far be it from me to make any comparisons between the behaviour typically found in a kindergarten and that found in certain communities or exhibited by certain prominent public figures. [09:18] directhex_: how much did you pay? [09:18] £120 [09:18] >.< [09:18] trackers w/ heart rate monitoring aren't cheap [09:19] ah wow, that has gps too? [09:19] nope. next model up has gps [09:19] man thats ££ [09:19] and if you only saw how much they cost AFTER you started wearing them it would be a great calibration test... :-P [09:19] Connect it to your insurance company and get discount on life insurance (read: invade your own privacy to save 50p a month!) [09:19] zmoylan-pi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki7VqBmkf7M [09:19] i've lost more than a stone so far [09:20] so *shrug* it works [09:20] i don't need to lose weight :( [09:20] rather the opposite [09:20] its so easy to lose weight, so hard to gain [09:20] i'm overweight [09:20] i'm losing weight, whilst eating cheeseburgers. great diet! [09:20] I'm happy with my weight, I just need the mass to migrate from where it is to where I'd rather it was [09:20] * TwistedLucidity prods belly [09:21] foobarry: Eat more, move less. [09:21] i was concerned about health, so decided to get my BMI down to "normal" [09:21] also, i'm sick of 38" waist jeans [09:21] Although that'll be fat you gain...which may not be the best idea [09:22] i was hoping to gain some over easter but my daughter caught a D&V bug [09:22] which we all caught [09:22] directhex_: Wear stilts then recalculate BMI. Problem solved! [09:22] hence lose 1/2 stone [09:22] fun for all the family :-/ [09:22] d&v is a great weight-loss regimen! [09:22] so is a tapeworm! [09:23] for me though, it's been more exercise & less cake [09:23] just make sure the wifi extends to the loo with backup reading material printed on soft paper [09:23] how many steps a day are you doing? [09:23] usually only 7500. but i'm doing 40 minutes a day on the exercise bike [09:24] i wonder when it will get to teh point that your doctor asks to see your steps count [09:24] foobarry: More worrying, when will your insurance company demand to see it [09:24] fitbit can't really understand cycling except for heart rate i guess [09:24] foobarry: hence the hrart rate model! [09:24] can't strap it to you leg... [09:25] It would be kinda tricky, especially with the gearing etc [09:25] Wonder what it would make of a martial arts class....although watches etc normally have to be removed for safety [09:25] when i get my xiaomi i want to calibrate it against a person with 2 other devices [09:26] TwistedLucidity: heart rate monitoring is enough IME. also a surprising number of calories in housework [09:26] i got a water proof/shock proof watch with a bunch of sensors (temp/pressure/compass etc.) in early 00s. it didn't survive fencing [09:26] directhex_: Yeah...don't have to tell me that. Also the slow-burn of housework means you can sustain it for much longer [09:27] More calories in having to break, shovel and then carry goodness knows how much dirt. [09:27] DIY-blog [09:28] gardening is serious work [09:28] had to move a rose bush the other day [09:28] at 9pm [09:28] i was in my tshirt [09:29] and with all these health trackers it's only a matter of time before all the data is been requested in divorce cases... http://www.wired.com/2014/12/wearables-in-court/ [09:29] a great upgrade for twitter would be to allow tweets from some users only during certain window. e.g. if i wanna follow tfl or my train company, i only want to see tweets sent between my commuting hrs [09:29] or hopefully in the future google now will read them and only tell me if bad things.. [09:30] I just use lists for stuff like that now foobarry [09:30] Never look at the main stream [09:30] that would assume the train company doesn't send tweets about the wild cat strike to their customers the night before so they can make alternate plans [09:31] If it's important, I bally well expect the train company to have a page sent to my door with the missive! [09:31] how do the lists work [09:31] are they customised searches? [09:31] foobarry: Usually one thing after another. :-P [09:31] for people you don't subscribe/follow? [09:31] lists are just a list of accounts you want to follow. i use them for specific typese of news. then read those lists when i'm in the mood or looking for a particular story [09:31] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ucfgdFrlho [09:32] do i have to follow them first? [09:32] how do i get them out of my main feed? [09:32] nope, beside the follow button on the web page there's a gizmo that allows you to add them to list [09:32] then unfollow them. leaving them in the list [09:32] Too much junk on Twitter. Used it for a month and then gave up due to all the "spam" (i.e. twits that I had no interest in) [09:33] i have 3 accounts [09:33] i have my timeline now just personal friends and 1-2 local news feeds for travel. gardai and dublin bus. [09:33] hence i have to use plume to read twitter [09:33] so maybe i just need lists instead [09:34] tweetdeck on laptop is optimal [09:34] lists is the poor mans version of plume/tweetdeck [09:34] you can add a list to an alternate list in plume [09:34] *alternate column [09:42] i wanna ditch plume soon [09:42] which should be possible with lists [09:42] has gotten crashy recently for me [09:42] twitter official client won't mux together various accounts into one feed [09:43] plume doesn't show vines or gifs and the ads are annoying [09:43] its not good enough to buy for the price they want === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [10:56] Ubuntu doesnt run that bad on the pi2 [11:15] I think pi2 is quad core. Should be ok [11:16] Yeah, it has a GB of RAM as well [11:16] Can even do virtualisation 8-O [11:17] pi2 still lacks I/O acceleration, so is still sorta bad [11:17] but it's a definite improvement [11:17] \o/ left over gammon in a sandwich for lunch [11:19] green ham and eggs? :-) [11:19] mustard / may and ham [11:21] popey: but it's april :D [11:21] and it's sunny! [11:22] snow forecast for the weekend i think [11:22] popey: shhhh you might scare it away :D [11:22] \o/ === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [15:40] I am running trusty in a KVM vm (Proxmox 3.3, third party platform, can't change). It runs happily for a short while and then goes to 100% CPU and will not accept any input nor an ACPI shutdown. any suggestions as to how to go about further debugging of this? [15:43] ne2k: is the VM doing anything before it goes 100% and effectively offline? or is it an idle, blank VM? [15:44] intrbiz, it's just a clean install of trusty x86_64 server [15:44] intrbiz, with the latest updates [15:44] ne2k: with nothing running? [15:44] intrbiz, nothing that I've added [15:44] intrbiz, there are obviously quite a few system services running, obviously [15:45] ne2k: sure, do you have any access to the console? [15:45] intrbiz, it has a single virtio disk and a single virtio network card [15:45] intrbiz, I have access to the console of the VM, not the hypervisor [15:46] ne2k: is there anything on the console when it crashes? [15:47] intrbiz, no, just the login prompt as it woudl normally be, and the cursor is no longer flashing [15:47] after a reboot, I checked syslog and there was nothing before the crash, just the once-an-hour "MARK" and then nothing [15:50] ne2k: can your provider setup a serial console for the VM logging to a file? [15:50] ne2k: as a way to try and get a kernel trace if it is panicing [15:50] intrbiz, they possibly could. not sure if it would help [15:51] intrbiz, is there any setup from the guest side to enable that? [15:53] ne2k: just a kernel parameter to add to the boot line [16:18] Whats the q&A channel? >.< [16:18] ChloeWolfieGirl, whu? [16:19] Just wondering what the ubuntu q&A channel is. [16:20] ChloeWolfieGirl, I'm not sure what that means. this is a channel in which you can ask questions, and if people can answer them, they will try to [16:22] Found it, #ubuntu-on-air I was looking for Q&A [16:22] fair enough. never heard of it === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [19:48] woo, wife's new handbag seems to have arrived in the UK from taiwan [19:49] yippee? [19:49] is windows 2003 server EOL soon? [19:50] I belive so, foobarry [19:50] diddledan: of course yippee. it's amaaazing [19:50] https://www.jumpfrompaper.com/europe/originals/backpack/spaceman/ [19:50] directhex_: in that case then, "yippee!" [19:51] that makes my eyes go screwey [19:51] :D [19:51] I'm not sure that it's green though [19:52] now i'm waiting on new computer parts. which should arrive tomorrow -> monday [19:52] (hover over the left-hand colour swatch) [19:52] apparently cyan is now green [19:54] anyway, back to testing my wordpress plugins [20:00] foobarry: yep June or July [20:00] 2003 R2 as well [20:00] SBS 2003 is already dead afaiui [20:03] cool kids already upgraded their servers to windows 10 tech preview [20:04] ;) [20:04] most of those have been in #ubuntu having tried to multiboot but ended up wiping the entire disk *giggle* [20:05] daftykins: you sadist [20:05] why am i when it's them doing it XD [20:05] lol [20:05] because you're laughing at them [20:05] i'm gonna run 10 on my new pc [20:06] directhex_: \o/ [20:06] use the tech preview for now, then buy it in a couple of months [20:06] buying 8 now is dumb [20:06] that and 8 being terrible [20:06] ;D [20:07] this old box has a vista home basic oem license :D [20:08] also win7 pro and win8 pro upgrades. but still... [20:08] erk! [20:08] i am curious as to how this Windows 10 upgrade 'free' -ness will work [20:09] it's apparently being baked into windows update as an optional install [20:09] blech, i want ISOs [20:09] installing 8.1 on this pc: install vista basic. insert win8 install dvd, boot, wipe vista partition. go trhough windows update & reboot 3 or 4 times, until 8.1 appears in app store. windows update another 10 times [20:09] that can be clean installed from [20:09] daftykins: precisely why i'm buying 10, not 8 then upgrading [20:10] mmm 8 has got to have the worst setup for updating in history [20:10] you can't even download installers to make it easier, since they still offer you a bunch of updates that must be installed in sequence [20:11] got a win10 installer usb stick prepped [20:11] new pc parts should mostly arrive tomorrow. wife can help with the build [20:12] how high spec are you going? haswell-E? :D [20:12] yey for shared pursuits! [20:12] hehe, i've had to tell off my dear lady friend for thinking molex to floppy converters are 4-pin mobo fan header to molex fan adapters ;) [20:13] erk [20:13] still, can see how you'd think that if you'd never built in the floppy era [20:13] whatever you do, don't think they're mobo fan to hdd power :-p [20:13] XD [20:15] daftykins: haswell-e. [20:15] rawr [20:16] i7-5820k, gtx 980, 960gb ssd, 32gb ddr4 [20:16] in festive red & black [20:16] crikey, that'll be some £ [20:17] yep [20:17] good job i took out some extra when i got a loan to buy the volt [20:17] XD [20:18] saving the planet w/ new car... killing it w/ new pc [20:42] vmware, huh? "This license key can be deployed on an unlimited number of physical hosts, but is restricted to deployment on less than or equal to 0 Physical Servers." [20:43] so what's the difference between a host and a server? [20:43] in terms of vmware esxi, I mean [21:13] diddledan: that could well be the most confusing statement i've ever read [21:31] great, huh? [21:34] diddledan: did you work it out yet? [21:34] nope [21:35] is it a statement from a web-based account that's just broken, maybe? [21:36] it's the output from vmware.com on the download page === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away