| barrydk | Morning everyone | 05:20 |
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| * pieter2627 o/ to all the early joiners | 05:20 | |
| Kilos | hi barrydk and everyone else | 05:20 |
| Jacques_Stry | Morning | 05:20 |
| Kilos | hi pieter2627 | 05:20 |
| Kilos | ohi Jacques_Stry as well also too | 05:20 |
| pieter2627 | Ooi oi Kilos | 05:20 |
| Kilos | sorry i was distracted | 05:21 |
| * Jacques_Stry waves | 05:21 | |
| Kilos | bad greeter bot today | 05:21 |
| barrydk | Kilos: at our age we cant get distracted anymore | 05:40 |
| Kilos | hehe | 05:40 |
| Kilos | wow 40 nicks and so early | 05:41 |
| pieter2627 | was actually surprised about it yesterday - when i joined here last month top was 31 | 05:42 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:42 |
| Kilos | ive been trying for years to get 50 peeps here, most so far has been 47 at meeting night | 05:48 |
| Kilos | i always said when we get to 50 i can retire | 05:48 |
| Kilos | now ive been told its not in my contract , the retirement option | 05:49 |
| * pieter2627 is glad can != should | 05:49 | |
| Kilos | ? | 05:49 |
| * Jacques_Stry is glad can does not equal should | 05:50 | |
| Kilos | lol | 05:50 |
| pieter2627 | != means is not the same (does not equal) | 05:50 |
| Jacques_Stry | Programming syntax | 05:50 |
| pieter2627 | ^^ | 05:50 |
| Kilos | oh ty | 05:50 |
| * pieter2627 now knows why Kilos did not understand him yesterday | 05:51 | |
| Kilos | lol i know nothing about programming | 05:51 |
| pieter2627 | but you went through the lpi? | 05:52 |
| Kilos | only first 100 pages mainly that is on hardware | 05:52 |
| Kilos | after that i gave up | 05:53 |
| pieter2627 | when you pick it up again, start from the back :P | 05:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:53 |
| Jacques_Stry | ^^ | 05:53 |
| Kilos | i tried python as well | 05:53 |
| Kilos | whew | 05:53 |
| Kilos | managed to do Hello World | 05:54 |
| pieter2627 | and then the variables? | 05:54 |
| Kilos | i dont like vim | 05:54 |
| Kilos | even this restructured text is too heavy | 05:55 |
| Kilos | i can learn but only while doing it then its forgotten | 05:55 |
| * pieter2627 thinks that a debugger is the best help for a beginner - can remember trying to learn js without it | 05:56 | |
| pieter2627 | that is how you are suppose to learn | 05:56 |
| Kilos | when reading a book i often have to reread previous passages to pick up the story again | 05:57 |
| Kilos | 'my ram is broken | 05:57 |
| Kilos | but i love fiddling with hardware | 05:58 |
| Kilos | then i can see what i am doing and dont have to remember what i have done | 05:58 |
| * pieter2627 thinks about leaving before he has to help fixing something | 05:59 | |
| Kilos | lol | 05:59 |
| Kilos | all you guys did a wonderful job on the site, ty so much | 06:04 |
| DalekSec | 'Welcome. | 06:04 |
| * DalekSec ducks | 06:04 | |
| Kilos | hi there DalekSec | 06:05 |
| DalekSec | Howdy. | 06:05 |
| Kilos | hehe you sneaky hey | 06:05 |
| Kilos | have you seen the site in question | 06:05 |
| Kilos | DalekSec ^ | 06:05 |
| Kilos | http://ubuntu-africa.info | 06:06 |
| DalekSec | Same framework as -za, but a bit different. | 06:08 |
| Kilos | very different | 06:09 |
| Kilos | hit refresh a few times and watch the pictures change | 06:09 |
| * pieter2627 now has time to find out about Kilos's broken ram | 06:16 | |
| Kilos | lol dont you know the story? | 06:16 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 06:16 |
| pieter2627 | oh, just figured it out | 06:17 |
| Kilos | my head was bust open by a windmill and my ram leaked out | 06:17 |
| Kilos | what did you figure out | 06:17 |
| pieter2627 | that ram is a metaphor | 06:18 |
| Kilos | ya that thing | 06:18 |
| Kilos | i arrived at hospital doa and was rebooted in icu | 06:19 |
| Kilos | so some things in head dont work like normal peeps | 06:20 |
| pieter2627 | with regard to ram leakage in the topic above, the same applies in programming (at least you can leave comments in the code) | 06:20 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:20 |
| pieter2627 | they should have flashed ubuntu rather that reboot :P | 06:21 |
| Kilos | haha | 06:21 |
| Squirm | Morning | 06:55 |
| Squirm | My Google Chome keeps crashing :/ | 06:55 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 06:55 |
| Kilos | have you tried another browser Squirm | 07:00 |
| Kilos | might not be chrome thats sick | 07:01 |
| Kilos | eish power cut tomorrow from 0800 till 1600 for maintenance on lines | 07:23 |
| Kilos | eish some more on second read 1800 | 07:26 |
| Jacques_Stry | >.< | 07:26 |
| Squirm | ouch | 07:34 |
| Squirm | Kilos: But I like chrome :/ | 07:34 |
| Squirm | Syncs all my devices | 07:34 |
| Kilos | it might be a deeper prob Squirm | 07:34 |
| Jacques_Stry | How's your ram usage? Is your pc maybe runnung out of ram? | 07:35 |
| Squirm | Mmmm, yeah, I think it's because my 8Gb of RAM can't handle my browsing needs | 07:35 |
| Kilos | so if other browser also crashes then find out why then go back to chrome | 07:35 |
| Jacques_Stry | lol | 07:35 |
| Squirm | Jacques_Stry: I know it is | 07:35 |
| Squirm | Chrome is a memory hog(I had a more colourful word in mind) | 07:35 |
| Jacques_Stry | Chrome is but how many tabs do you have to run out of ram on 8gb? | 07:36 |
| Squirm | when I open Chrome, 15 tabs open up, tabs I use very often. | 07:37 |
| Squirm | So then... Due to work, many more tabs get opened | 07:37 |
| Kilos | ai! opera open 20 + tabs here everyday and often gets to 40+ and dont crash | 07:38 |
| Kilos | and i got 4g ram | 07:39 |
| Kilos | but i dont stream stuff | 07:39 |
| Jacques_Stry | On chrome you usually use +-250mb per tab so 15 tabs already equals about 4gb of ram used | 07:39 |
| Squirm | Kilos: yeah... Firefox is also good. But I like Chrome :/ | 07:39 |
| Squirm | Jacques_Stry: indeed. Unless you've had mybroadband or Facebook open for a day or two, then they move up to ~500mb | 07:39 |
| Kilos | is chromium the same hog or a bit better | 07:40 |
| Jacques_Stry | >.< | 07:40 |
| Jacques_Stry | Should be a bit lighter i think | 07:40 |
| Jacques_Stry | but no built in flash | 07:40 |
| Jacques_Stry | so you have to install it separately | 07:41 |
| Squirm | I have 34 Chrome Helper Processes running | 07:42 |
| Squirm | I have so much open. I'm using SWAP | 07:42 |
| Squirm | But thanks to my SSD, it's quite a usable machine | 07:43 |
| Squirm | I hardly notice the SWAP usage, unless I had to open my VM | 07:43 |
| Jacques_Stry | 15.04 currently has a issue with the mediascanner service | 07:45 |
| Jacques_Stry | slow down recognition of new drives and uses 750mb+ ram | 07:45 |
| Jacques_Stry | disabling | 07:46 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 07:46 |
| === MaNI2 is now known as MaNI | ||
| Jacques_Stry | Just letting you guys know if you upgrade | 07:47 |
| Kilos | there are still tons of bugs that need fixing | 07:48 |
| Kilos | they most likely last minute rush them | 07:48 |
| Jacques_Stry | Well I usually disable the service anyway - no point in it for me anyway | 07:48 |
| Kilos | ill stay on 14.04 i think | 07:48 |
| pieter2627 | Squirm: firefox has an add-on called UnloadTab to unload tabs that have not been used for a while which i use (maybe chrome has similar) | 07:49 |
| Squirm | pieter2627: cool | 07:49 |
| Squirm | pieter2627: does the tab stay open? Just dead? | 07:49 |
| Squirm | I've started using evernote again, for article storage, so I don't leave tabs open for future use | 07:50 |
| pieter2627 | I also disabled loading tabs on startup until needed... | 07:50 |
| pieter2627 | yes stayes open is just unloaded from ram | 07:50 |
| pieter2627 | for me this helps to have 150 tabs open (in groups) on 2Gb | 07:51 |
| Jacques_Stry | O.O | 07:52 |
| pieter2627 | pinned tabs just aren't unloaded | 07:52 |
| Jacques_Stry | can try this: https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fchrome.google.com%2Fwebstore%2Fdetail%2Fthe-great-suspender%2Fklbibkeccnjlkjkiokjodocebajanakg%3Fhl%3Den&ei=GgI2VZKfL-TC7gaumoHADQ&usg=AFQjCNGRTAXowoxT0jhIpq-MClgBZGMVxw&sig2=8yL-xKr5fDmN3F3eDSH3gw&bvm=bv.91071109,d.bGQ | 07:54 |
| Jacques_Stry | Sorry for long link | 07:55 |
| Kilos | Jacques_Stry use maaz in pm to shorten them | 07:56 |
| Jacques_Stry | Will do | 07:56 |
| Kilos | command is maaz shorten link | 07:56 |
| Kilos | doesnt worry me though | 07:56 |
| Kilos | a link is a link even if its hanging off the screen at times | 07:57 |
| Jacques_Stry | ^^ | 07:57 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 youre plan didnt work | 08:35 |
| Kilos | doesnt it disconnect when you are afk | 08:36 |
| pieter2627 | konversation frooze when i clicked the link | 08:45 |
| Kilos | oh my | 08:47 |
| Kilos | you on kde or konversation on unity | 08:48 |
| pieter2627 | the plan didn't work, but a restart did | 09:01 |
| pieter2627 | am testing kubuntu 15.04 | 09:01 |
| Kilos | aha | 09:04 |
| Kilos | just try sudo aptitude reinstall konversation and see if it wants to download anything | 09:05 |
| Kilos | sjoe 15.04 kde with 2g ram | 09:06 |
| Kilos | you are petient | 09:06 |
| Kilos | patient | 09:06 |
| pieter2627 | i would expect it to download konversation since it is not in my cache | 09:08 |
| Kilos | ah | 09:08 |
| pieter2627 | the plasmashell only uses about 150Mb? | 09:08 |
| pieter2627 | with ff closed, using 1.3Gb | 09:09 |
| Kilos | im bang to upgrade because everything is so lekker stable on 14.04 | 09:09 |
| pieter2627 | nah, i love new toys :) | 09:10 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:10 |
| * pieter2627 can confirm that it downloaded only konversation | 09:13 | |
| Kilos | and you done an aptitude upgrade? | 09:14 |
| Kilos | why is youre cache empty | 09:15 |
| pieter2627 | busy with that now (using apt-get) | 09:15 |
| pieter2627 | because it is a fresh install | 09:16 |
| Kilos | oh you still installing | 09:16 |
| pieter2627 | nope, checking for updates | 09:16 |
| Kilos | when youve done apt-get upgrade then do aptitude upgrade | 09:17 |
| pieter2627 | ok | 09:17 |
| Kilos | im a serious aptitude fan | 09:18 |
| pieter2627 | yeah i've seen so | 09:18 |
| Kilos | haha | 09:18 |
| Kilos | i wonder if fly and pro are still aptitude peeps | 09:19 |
| Kilos | they the ones that taught me to use it | 09:20 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 09:20 |
| pieter2627 | you and pro talked about it with the africa build instructions | 09:20 |
| Kilos | oh | 09:20 |
| pieter2627 | that's how "i've seen so" | 09:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:21 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 comment from above | 10:03 |
| Kilos | MooDoo> how about the learn more button in the ubuntu africa section lining up with the other two buttons so it doesn't look like it's out of place....like i said very trivial | 10:03 |
| pieter2627 | comment? | 10:04 |
| Kilos | the top guys are looking at the site | 10:05 |
| Kilos | you can go see comments on #ubuntu-locoteams | 10:06 |
| pieter2627 | ok will check the logs... they want the learn more button to line up with the others? | 10:07 |
| Kilos | it was just a trivial suggestion | 10:07 |
| pieter2627 | yea, i used wrong wording... it sounds good, will try and give a screenshot later | 10:08 |
| Kilos | cool ty | 10:09 |
| Kilos | no rush | 10:09 |
| Kilos | its at the council for approval | 10:10 |
| pieter2627 | oky | 10:10 |
| Kilos | so even Mark will look at it | 10:10 |
| Kilos | we might need to add some french greeting there too, i just need to find out how many countries use french as first language | 10:12 |
| Kilos | the drc havent joined the irc channel so far because they are all french | 10:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hi Kilos | 10:17 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: http://pasteboard.co/2JePjRzI.png | 10:41 |
| pieter2627 | that is a quick firebug tickering... there might be some issues; will need fly and pro's input | 10:41 |
| Kilos | let me find the old one and see the diffs | 10:42 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: http://ubuntu-africa.info/ | 10:42 |
| pieter2627 | wbbl - gonna have lunch | 10:43 |
| Kilos | i have it open all the time just need to find which tab | 10:43 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 10:43 |
| Padroni | hi all | 10:47 |
| Kilos | hi Padroni you well? | 10:47 |
| Padroni | Iam | 10:48 |
| Padroni | you? | 10:48 |
| Kilos | yes ty | 10:48 |
| Padroni | trying to get the guys from the Ubuntu-SA FB page to join here | 10:48 |
| Kilos | i just got the mail | 10:48 |
| Kilos | i saw the whats that hehe | 10:48 |
| Padroni | what mail? | 10:49 |
| * Padroni just switched to Cinnamon | 10:49 | |
| Kilos | i get mails everytime something im part of gets changed | 10:49 |
| Kilos | even when strangers membership expires sigh | 10:50 |
| Padroni | who's memberrship expired? | 10:50 |
| Kilos | some ubuntu member | 10:51 |
| Kilos | im bang if i unsubscribe then i miss important stuff | 10:52 |
| Kilos | so i take the good with the useless info | 10:52 |
| Kilos | and the fb mails keep me up to date with what happens with family and friends without me nneding to go to fb | 10:56 |
| Kilos | needing | 10:56 |
| Jacques_Stry | Hey Padroni | 10:58 |
| Padroni | yo Jacques_Stry | 10:58 |
| Padroni | long time... | 10:58 |
| Jacques_Stry | Looks like everytime I log in your offline and visa-versa | 10:59 |
| Jacques_Stry | :) | 10:59 |
| Jacques_Stry | You on cinnamon? Mmmm... | 11:00 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 11:00 |
| Jacques_Stry | You on Mint now or Still normal ubuntu | 11:00 |
| Padroni | ubuntu, but trying out Cinnamon | 11:01 |
| Padroni | I remember cinnamon from my days of using Mint | 11:01 |
| Padroni | it's pretty | 11:01 |
| * Padroni is flying up to PTA on Thursday | 11:02 | |
| Jacques_Stry | what you doing in PTA | 11:04 |
| Padroni | court on friday | 11:09 |
| Jacques_Stry | >.< | 11:09 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:09 |
| Padroni | yes | 11:09 |
| Padroni | Taking my laptop and iPad | 11:09 |
| Kilos | what a schlep | 11:09 |
| Padroni | series-binge thursday and friday | 11:09 |
| Padroni | oh well | 11:10 |
| Padroni | I miss 2 days of work | 11:10 |
| Padroni | so there's that | 11:10 |
| Kilos | yeah but when you get back more to catch up | 11:10 |
| Kilos | so you dont miss much actually | 11:10 |
| * Padroni waves at Squirm | 11:11 | |
| * Squirm eyes Padroni | 11:11 | |
| Squirm | I thought it was you | 11:11 |
| Padroni | haha | 11:12 |
| * Padroni be recruitin' | 11:12 | |
| Padroni | Help that simon guy to get in too | 11:12 |
| Padroni | he says he can't chat from the site | 11:12 |
| Squirm | Strange | 11:12 |
| qwebirc15858 | Hey Guys :) | 11:16 |
| Padroni | hey Simon-JHB | 11:16 |
| * Jacques_Stry waves | 11:16 | |
| Padroni | Welcome | 11:16 |
| qwebirc15858 | lol it took me 10 hours to figure out how to send a text in this chatroom LOL | 11:16 |
| Squirm | Haha | 11:16 |
| Squirm | ^^ | 11:16 |
| Padroni | damn son | 11:17 |
| Padroni | how come/ | 11:17 |
| Padroni | ? | 11:17 |
| Simon-JHB | So pals where do you all stay? I am in JHB as my name suggest | 11:18 |
| Kilos | hi qwebirc15858 | 11:18 |
| Kilos | pta | 11:19 |
| Kilos | ohi Simon-JHB too | 11:19 |
| Simon-JHB | Padroni my keyboard has many keys, so it' a struggle to find the right keys to construct a sentence in English HAHAHA | 11:21 |
| Squirm | lunch time, chat later | 11:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:21 |
| Simon-JHB | Okay later Squirm! | 11:21 |
| Kilos | jy kan die taal praat ook | 11:22 |
| Kilos | not too much Squirm | 11:22 |
| Padroni | hehe | 11:22 |
| Padroni | Simon is new | 11:22 |
| Padroni | he is from Facebook | 11:22 |
| Padroni | on the interwebs | 11:22 |
| Kilos | cool | 11:22 |
| Kilos | now teach him to install an irc client | 11:23 |
| Padroni | should have xchat by default? | 11:23 |
| Kilos | there you go then | 11:23 |
| Simon-JHB | @Kilos haha YES please, will someone teach me how to install irc client... | 11:23 |
| Kilos | you using unity? | 11:24 |
| Simon-JHB | No I am using Gnome | 11:24 |
| Kilos | oi i dont know what gnome interface is like but anyway open a terminal | 11:24 |
| Kilos | ctrl+alt+t | 11:25 |
| Kilos | then type in xchat | 11:25 |
| Kilos | Padroni havent you used gnome? | 11:25 |
| Simon-JHB | cool thanks, let me do that, will update on how it goes.. | 11:25 |
| Kilos | ok | 11:26 |
| Padroni | i had Unity | 11:26 |
| Padroni | the ubuntu default one | 11:26 |
| Kilos | when it opens choose freenode and edit on the right | 11:26 |
| * pieter2627 notes to kilos that ctrl+alt+t doesn't seem to be cross flavour default - it does not work in kubuntu 15.04 :( | 11:26 | |
| Kilos | 'no in kde you can set what you want | 11:27 |
| Kilos | i have ctrl+t as mine | 11:27 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 that looks good to me | 11:27 |
| pieter2627 | yeah, but default was nice | 11:27 |
| Kilos | we need to shake inetpro | 11:27 |
| Kilos | you guys can decide because its all the same to me | 11:28 |
| pieter2627 | oh hi Simon-JHB and qwebirc15858 | 11:28 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: there is just two diff ways to implement it - will need to decide which to use | 11:30 |
| Simon-JHB | Hi Pieter2627, will anyone please teach me Afrikaans, I forgot it the minute I left Free State to JHB :( | 11:30 |
| Kilos | when Simon-JHB has a client going pieter2627 then ill look for how | 11:30 |
| Kilos | in settings somewhere | 11:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:30 |
| Kilos | Simon-JHB wen jy met die xchat ding | 11:31 |
| Jacques_Stry | Simon-JHB: sudo apt-get install xchat | 11:32 |
| Simon-JHB | Kilos I am done installing it, I am now getting the settings okay | 11:32 |
| Kilos | ok | 11:33 |
| Kilos | i thought it was in already | 11:33 |
| Kilos | Jacques_Stry will you take over? | 11:34 |
| Kilos | pretty please | 11:34 |
| Jacques_Stry | will do | 11:34 |
| Kilos | im a kde and konversation man now | 11:34 |
| Kilos | ty | 11:35 |
| Jacques_Stry | Simon-JHB: In the network list choose FreeNode | 11:35 |
| simon__ | Hey guys, Thanks Jacques | 11:36 |
| Jacques_Stry | Simon-JHB: Go to edit - in favorite channels add "#ubuntu-za,#ubuntu-africa,etc" without the " for all the channels you want to use | 11:36 |
| Jacques_Stry | haha your here | 11:36 |
| simon__ | lol haha yeah bud, this things are not pap and vleis | 11:37 |
| Jacques_Stry | Glad nie | 11:37 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 11:37 |
| Kilos | once you are used to it you cant live without your daily chat | 11:38 |
| simon__ | hahaha now I can breath a sigh of relief #hhhmmm | 11:38 |
| simon__ | I hope so @Kilos | 11:38 |
| Kilos | and you get free cyber coffee | 11:38 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 11:38 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 11:38 | |
| Jacques_Stry | Maaz: with milk | 11:39 |
| Maaz | Haha Jacques_Stry You aren't one of those that needs to drink black coffee to be able to cast a shadow! | 11:39 |
| simon__ | hahaha now you making me crave for real black coffee | 11:39 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: with 2 sugar please | 11:39 |
| Maaz | pieter2627: What? | 11:39 |
| * pieter2627 is gonna have bitter coffee | 11:40 | |
| Kilos | maaz with sugar | 11:40 |
| Maaz | Help yourself outa the sugar pot | 11:40 |
| simon__ | Guys how long has this community been going? | 11:40 |
| Kilos | years | 11:40 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: how do i tell maaz... oh | 11:40 |
| Jacques_Stry | Well I have only been here about 2 Months | 11:40 |
| pieter2627 | Maaz: coffee please | 11:40 |
| Maaz | pieter2627: Done | 11:40 |
| Kilos | Maaz with cremora | 11:41 |
| Maaz | Ah! At last someone with taste | 11:41 |
| Kilos | Maaz and milk | 11:41 |
| Maaz | Now you're talking | 11:41 |
| simon__ | what is the main duty of the community? | 11:42 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos and pieter2627! | 11:42 |
| Kilos | we help new guys sort problems they are having | 11:43 |
| Kilos | Maaz dankie man | 11:43 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier my vriend | 11:43 |
| pieter2627 | maaz grazie | 11:43 |
| Maaz | pieter2627: Excuse me? | 11:43 |
| pieter2627 | maaz thanks | 11:43 |
| Maaz | pieter2627: No problem | 11:43 |
| Kilos | the bot is a toy at times and other times does out monthly meeting minutes etc | 11:43 |
| simon__ | okay cool! | 11:44 |
| * pieter2627 needs to learn this thing - so will cont to push it | 11:44 | |
| Kilos | Maaz help | 11:45 |
| Maaz | Kilos: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. | 11:45 |
| Maaz | Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. | 11:45 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 better to pm the bot and then work your way through all it can do | 11:45 |
| MaNI | Maaz help me with do all my programming work for me | 11:46 |
| Maaz | MaNI: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. | 11:46 |
| MaNI | aww | 11:46 |
| pieter2627 | ok (msg or query?) | 11:46 |
| simon__ | So guys what are typical professions of users in this group? | 11:47 |
| Kilos | all IT guys and me | 11:47 |
| Kilos | mechanic and farmer and greeter bot | 11:47 |
| Kilos | w0000t | 11:48 |
| Kilos | news from the top | 11:48 |
| Kilos | On 21/04/2015 13:05, Michael Hall wrote: | 11:48 |
| Kilos | > I see no problems or concerns with this site, everything looks great to me. | 11:48 |
| simon__ | Alright if by any chance there's anyone who does some work in python(Django/Cherrypy) and they have some to outsource they can do so to me, I just wanna keep my python skills active, there's inst much python going on in SA hence I settled for php | 11:52 |
| * Padroni has been here 2 months and is widely considered an expert on nothing in particular | 11:55 | |
| Kilos | oh simon__ you really want to wake up all python skills | 11:55 |
| Kilos | you can rewrite our bot in python3 | 11:56 |
| simon__ | Yeah Kilos I love python. | 11:56 |
| simon__ | what is "bot"? | 11:56 |
| Kilos | great you will get on well with superfly | 11:56 |
| Kilos | robot | 11:56 |
| simon__ | oh lol | 11:56 |
| Kilos | the coffee maker | 11:56 |
| Kilos | its in the repos | 11:56 |
| Kilos | ibid | 11:56 |
| simon__ | what is it on currently? | 11:57 |
| Kilos | python 2 or 2.7 im not sure | 11:57 |
| Kilos | but doesnt tork in 14.04 or later that want python 3 | 11:58 |
| simon__ | lol but then if it's in 2.7 then why go python3? 2.7 has great matured fueatures | 11:58 |
| Kilos | if you are here tonight superfly or inetpro can explain | 11:58 |
| simon__ | okay cool, what time? | 11:58 |
| Kilos | normally when they get home and sometimes after supper and on the odd occasion during the day | 11:59 |
| Kilos | depending on work of course | 12:00 |
| simon__ | okie dokie, will pop in later then, I have to get back to work as well! | 12:00 |
| Kilos | cool nice to have you here | 12:01 |
| Kilos | we are here all day | 12:01 |
| simon__ | likewise | 12:01 |
| Kilos | Padroni nice catch | 12:02 |
| Padroni | ty | 12:11 |
| Kilos | i love it when clever peeps join, i cant help them | 12:13 |
| Jacques_Stry | >.< | 12:13 |
| * Squirm looks around | 12:24 | |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:25 |
| pieter2627 | hi theamoeba | 12:29 |
| theamoeba | hey pieter2627 :) | 12:29 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: greeter bot seems broken | 12:29 |
| Kilos | hi theamoeba welcome to ubuntu-za | 12:29 |
| Kilos | just slow pieter2627 | 12:29 |
| Kilos | but i have you guys too | 12:29 |
| pieter2627 | yeah, but i don't know who is new and who is returning | 12:30 |
| Kilos | doesnt matter as long as peeps are greeted | 12:31 |
| Kilos | ty for standing in | 12:31 |
| Kilos | haha if you greet and they welcome you then they are old peeps returning | 12:33 |
| pieter2627 | haha, yeah makes sense | 12:33 |
| Kilos | but wont be many old hands popping in i think | 12:34 |
| Kilos | most are here now or you have met them already | 12:34 |
| === jacques_ is now known as Jacques_Stry | ||
| Padroni | Right | 13:10 |
| Padroni | I am off to lunch with the wife. | 13:10 |
| Padroni | laters, folks. | 13:10 |
| Kilos | cheers Padroni go safe tomorrow | 13:10 |
| Kilos | is your laters a tomorrow thing | 13:10 |
| Kilos | or tonight | 13:10 |
| Padroni | either | 13:10 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:11 |
| Jacques_Stry | Cheers, enjoy | 13:11 |
| Jacques_Stry | Going home, chat later o/ | 13:25 |
| Kilos | cheers Jacques_Stry | 13:25 |
| tailon | lo all | 13:39 |
| Kilos | hi ta | 13:43 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:43 |
| Kilos | ai! die domdonner darem | 15:06 |
| Kilos | hi drussell | 15:39 |
| drussell | Heya Kilos | 15:40 |
| theamoeba | byebye | 15:55 |
| Kilos | oh my he didnt even say anything but byebye | 15:56 |
| melodie | Kilos therefore he did say something! Hello here btw! o/ | 16:01 |
| Kilos | where | 16:10 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za melodie | 16:10 |
| Kilos | oh she gone for a walk | 16:11 |
| Kilos | hi pieter2627 | 17:00 |
| pieter2627 | evening Kilos | 17:02 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 hou bietjie daai comment en jou oplossing handig vir die pro asb | 17:17 |
| Kilos | ek verloor en vergeet goet | 17:17 |
| pieter2627 | reg | 17:18 |
| Squirm | So | 17:27 |
| Squirm | I'm the only one in the office | 17:27 |
| Squirm | http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4306582111 | 17:27 |
| Kilos | hi rejerson69 welcome to ubuntu-za | 17:31 |
| Kilos | Squirm what time do you guys close shop for the day? | 17:32 |
| Kilos | i tyhought IT peeps go home at 4 pm | 17:33 |
| Kilos | thought | 17:33 |
| Squirm | Generally 17h30ish | 17:33 |
| magespawn | good evening | 17:48 |
| inetpro | hi magespawn | 17:53 |
| inetpro | good evening everyone else | 17:53 |
| inetpro | oh and that includes oom Kilos | 17:53 |
| Kilos | haha hi there inetpro | 17:53 |
| inetpro | what did i miss oom Kilos? | 17:54 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 17:54 |
| Kilos | only me making mistooks inetpro | 17:54 |
| inetpro | ? | 17:54 |
| Kilos | oh and a comment on the site | 17:55 |
| inetpro | only one comment? | 17:55 |
| Kilos | see pm man im shy to show here | 17:55 |
| inetpro | ai! | 17:55 |
| magespawn | inetpro did you get a ec2? | 17:55 |
| Kilos | comment on improving the look | 17:55 |
| Kilos | hi my magespawn | 17:55 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 17:56 |
| Kilos | say hi to melodie guys | 17:56 |
| magespawn | just because you are now a ubuntu larny, does not mean you can give up the greeter bot duties | 17:56 |
| Kilos | yes sorry magespawn | 17:57 |
| inetpro | oom Kilos tell sabdfl to come and visit us here man | 17:57 |
| Kilos | im sure he dont wanna visit dom donners | 17:57 |
| magespawn | hah Kilos, lol | 17:57 |
| inetpro | ai! | 17:57 |
| Kilos | i havent found him on irc yet | 17:58 |
| Kilos | im also sure he is the only one on the council that understands my email addy | 17:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: melodie is away at the moment | 17:58 |
| Kilos | she is a skelm and sometimes chats in away mode | 17:59 |
| inetpro | ah... | 18:00 |
| Kilos | melodie ping | 18:00 |
| inetpro | welcome to #ubuntu-za melodie | 18:00 |
| Kilos | oh inetpro i posted the one reply i got from the committee | 18:01 |
| Kilos | MooDoo> how about the learn more button in the ubuntu africa section lining up with the other two buttons so it doesn't look like it's out of place....like i said very trivial | 18:02 |
| Kilos | ai! im too old to have to scroll so far man | 18:02 |
| Kilos | we also have a new python person that will look at rewriting ibid into python 3 | 18:03 |
| Kilos | i told him to speak to you guys | 18:04 |
| Kilos | he asked why python 3 when 2.7 has all those features | 18:04 |
| Kilos | all i could say was we need three to make it work here | 18:05 |
| magespawn | the fly would argue for the latest version i think | 18:05 |
| magespawn | inetpro did you get a ec2? | 18:07 |
| Kilos | thats why i said ask him and pro for the reasons | 18:07 |
| Kilos | yes he did magespawn | 18:07 |
| Kilos | even offered to run QA there when he has time | 18:07 |
| magespawn | do you know what he has been using it for? | 18:08 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:08 |
| Kilos | oh to host hibana | 18:09 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:09 |
| Kilos | hibana ping | 18:09 |
| hibana | magespawn: oh, I'm here | 18:12 |
| inetpro | somewhere in Ireland | 18:13 |
| inetpro | he is* | 18:13 |
| Kilos | inetpro http://pasteboard.co/2JePjRzI.png | 18:13 |
| Kilos | thats what pieter2627 suggested after the moodoo comment | 18:14 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: looks good, what do you need from us? | 18:16 |
| inetpro | Kilos: log a bug for us | 18:16 |
| Kilos | he will be back at 8.30 | 18:16 |
| Kilos | a bug for where? | 18:17 |
| inetpro | any issues that people identify can be logged as bugs | 18:17 |
| Kilos | we dont have bugs, only things to move around | 18:17 |
| inetpro | fixing bugs is all part of the learning process | 18:17 |
| Kilos | hi Simon-JHB | 18:17 |
| inetpro | wb SilverCode | 18:17 |
| Simon-JHB | hey Kilos, how are you doing? | 18:18 |
| inetpro | oops... Simon-JHB | 18:18 |
| Kilos | inetpro Simon-JHB is the python man | 18:18 |
| Simon-JHB | hey inetpro haha | 18:18 |
| inetpro | hmm... Kilos, who's SilverCode? | 18:18 |
| Kilos | im good ty and you? | 18:18 |
| Simon-JHB | I'm well thanks! | 18:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos: looks like your family is growing by the day? | 18:19 |
| Kilos | inetpro can you point him to the source code please | 18:19 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:19 |
| Kilos | lol for ibid man | 18:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: https://trello.com/c/od4hQ8XH | 18:20 |
| Simon-JHB | I think inetpro needs so strong black coffee to help him concentrate :) | 18:20 |
| Kilos | yeah | 18:20 |
| Kilos | Simon-JHB https://github.com/ibid/ibid | 18:20 |
| Kilos | i hope thats it | 18:21 |
| Simon-JHB | okay will check it out, give me brief intro on the system you pointing me to? | 18:21 |
| inetpro | Simon-JHB: please join us on Trello as well https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco | 18:21 |
| Kilos | it is the bot we have here written in python by our guys that silicon valley stole from us | 18:22 |
| Simon-JHB | will do inetpro, thanks! | 18:22 |
| Simon-JHB | Isn't silicon valley based in America? if so then no surprise by that :) | 18:23 |
| Kilos | yeah our dev guys are there now | 18:24 |
| inetpro | Kilos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-africa/+filebug | 18:26 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:26 |
| Kilos | didnt you read the comment | 18:26 |
| Kilos | very trivial | 18:26 |
| Kilos | hibana cant you put the breaks on that guy | 18:28 |
| Kilos | how can he file a bug on my beautiful site | 18:29 |
| Kilos | magespawn you supposed to support man | 18:29 |
| hibana | Kilos: a bug is a bug | 18:29 |
| Kilos | ai! | 18:30 |
| Kilos | hibana go back to ireland | 18:31 |
| Kilos | oh my | 18:31 |
| inetpro | magespawn: currently I'm not doing much with with my ec2 other than giving hibana his own home on the globe | 18:33 |
| * hibana goes back to sleep | 18:34 | |
| Kilos | lol | 18:34 |
| Simon-JHB | Okay thanks for the links guys, I will go through the source code on github to familiarise myself with the system logic | 18:35 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: there are two ways to implement that... | 18:36 |
| Kilos | cool | 18:36 |
| inetpro | Simon-JHB: I'm sure Kilos is very happy to see someone working on ibid again at long last | 18:36 |
| pieter2627 | 1) using something that is considered a css hack thingy - does not work in ie7 or less | 18:37 |
| Kilos | yeah very very happy | 18:37 |
| pieter2627 | 2) using a new css3 attribute that also has ie support issues - just have to confirm others | 18:37 |
| Simon-JHB | lol haha @inetpro I love python, so I badly needed something to help me communicate with this beauty, I am tired working with php but it pays the bills | 18:38 |
| Simon-JHB | who are active members on the system beside you Kilos of-course? | 18:38 |
| Kilos | not me | 18:39 |
| Kilos | there is a channel | 18:39 |
| Kilos | but i think they all in silicon valley now | 18:39 |
| Kilos | Maaz ibid.channel | 18:39 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Sorry... | 18:39 |
| Kilos | Maaz ibid channel | 18:40 |
| Maaz | irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org | 18:40 |
| Simon-JHB | al-right | 18:40 |
| Kilos | tumbleweed you here? | 18:40 |
| pieter2627 | the support for option 2 (http://caniuse.com/#feat=flexbox) | 18:40 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: hi | 18:40 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: so don't know which to use | 18:41 |
| Kilos | ohi tumbleweed we have a guy that will look at rewriting ibid | 18:41 |
| Kilos | into python 3 | 18:41 |
| Kilos | can you just be stanby in case he needs some help please | 18:42 |
| Kilos | maybe once a week or so | 18:42 |
| Kilos | or via email | 18:42 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: I'm around to help, yes | 18:42 |
| tumbleweed | there's an ibid development IRC channel | 18:43 |
| Kilos | cool ty tumbleweed | 18:43 |
| Kilos | irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org | 18:43 |
| Kilos | that one | 18:43 |
| tumbleweed | that's just a server | 18:43 |
| tumbleweed | #ibid on atrum | 18:43 |
| Kilos | Simon-JHB are you watching | 18:43 |
| tumbleweed | if nobody replies (I forget to look at that channel), ping me or Vhata | 18:43 |
| Simon-JHB | yeah I am watching Kilos.. | 18:44 |
| Kilos | tumbleweed maintained ibid for years | 18:44 |
| Simon-JHB | hi tumbleweed nice to meet you! | 18:44 |
| Kilos | so i think do what you can then where you get stuck we can ping tumbleweed | 18:44 |
| tumbleweed | Simon-JHB: you too | 18:45 |
| Simon-JHB | yeah sounds great Kilos | 18:45 |
| Kilos | cool | 18:45 |
| Kilos | actually someone else did some work there too and gave up | 18:46 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 18:46 |
| Simon-JHB | what server are we rewriting it to again Kilos? | 18:46 |
| Kilos | i think he added a braai function | 18:46 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: you really think we should care much about ie7 or less? | 18:46 |
| Kilos | Simon-JHB rewrite the whole thing then we install on our pcs for testing purposes first | 18:47 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:47 |
| Simon-JHB | hahaha maybe he got a kid/s and wife/husband then responsibilities started piling up, that's the possibility | 18:47 |
| pieter2627 | no imo, but i don't know the feelings of you guys who are 'on top' | 18:48 |
| Kilos | then if all runs well we ask the host of maaz to upgrade or we run it by inetpro | 18:48 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: feelings? haha | 18:48 |
| Kilos | pieter2627 explain that please | 18:48 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: we live in a do-ocracy here | 18:48 |
| Simon-JHB | okay Kilos | 18:48 |
| Kilos | do you mean ie7 wont be able to see the site? | 18:49 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no man | 18:49 |
| Kilos | thats why i asked explain | 18:49 |
| inetpro | maybe if they couldn't see it, they shouldn't anyway | 18:49 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: i don't know if you might care about cross browser compatibility | 18:50 |
| Kilos | that is something to think about | 18:50 |
| Kilos | because how will you attract new peeps to ubuntu if they cant open it | 18:51 |
| Kilos | oh wait | 18:51 |
| Kilos | if they using ie they have probs anyway | 18:51 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nou verstaan jy | 18:51 |
| Kilos | we can fly over africa and drop flyers saying install firefox | 18:51 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:52 |
| Kilos | ya pieter2627 forget ie | 18:52 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: at least the buttons won't line up in this case - site still functional | 18:52 |
| Kilos | i didnt understand the comment in the first place | 18:53 |
| Kilos | werent things supposed to line up | 18:53 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: ok, will see to push a branch tommorow if it will fix a bug :) | 18:53 |
| Kilos | yay ty pieter2627 | 18:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: did you get his message even? | 18:54 |
| pieter2627 | Kilos: they don't currently | 18:54 |
| Kilos | whose? | 18:54 |
| inetpro | "if it will fix a bug" | 18:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: log a bug | 18:54 |
| stickyboy | Addis Addis... | 18:54 |
| Kilos | i ignored that on purpose | 18:54 |
| Kilos | my dev team dont make mistakes | 18:54 |
| pieter2627 | oh, should i also include that spelling bug :P in the branch | 18:55 |
| Kilos | eeek | 18:55 |
| Kilos | yes please | 18:55 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: go for it | 18:55 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: and anything else you see, or think should be modified or added | 18:56 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: i am currently trying to figure out how to create a custom directive for reStructureedText in Nikola since some aren't native to bootstrap | 18:58 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: you wouldn't maybe know how to do this | 18:58 |
| Kilos | inetpro loves reStructureedText | 18:59 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: sounds interesting but I'm afraid I'm still a newbie when it comes to reStructuredText, let alone Nikola | 19:00 |
| * pieter2627 has the same issue | 19:00 | |
| Kilos | if you dont try youll never learn | 19:00 |
| inetpro | pieter2627: join #nikola and ask them for advice perhaps | 19:02 |
| pieter2627 | inetpro: that will help ty | 19:03 |
| magespawn | pieter2627: is anyone still using ie7? | 19:13 |
| inetpro | magespawn: good question | 19:17 |
| * inetpro hasn't looked at stats for a long time | 19:17 | |
| inetpro | http://www.w3counter.com/trends | 19:17 |
| inetpro | very interesting | 19:17 |
| pieter2627 | magespawn: i don't think one should count those that do as any one :P so no | 19:18 |
| pieter2627 | but then again, maybe we should look at africa stats | 19:18 |
| Kilos | forget ie | 19:19 |
| Kilos | if the cant even guess that there are better browsers out there they wont guess there are better operating systems out there | 19:19 |
| pieter2627 | just to confirm, it is option 2 (css3) that should be used right (just confused myself)? | 19:20 |
| inetpro | where are the other webmasters around here? | 19:21 |
| Kilos | moppie still away for 4 weeks more | 19:21 |
| stickyboy | w0op | 19:22 |
| pieter2627 | me tired, night all | 19:23 |
| Kilos | night pieter2627 ty | 19:23 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 19:23 |
| inetpro | good night pieter2627 | 19:23 |
| inetpro | oh and thanks for staying in there | 19:24 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 19:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:24 |
| magespawn | i see they are doing a CSI Cyber | 19:44 |
| Kilos | oh yeah watch 2 so far i think | 19:44 |
| magespawn | and? | 19:46 |
| Kilos | not bad | 19:46 |
| magespawn | hmm | 19:46 |
| Kilos | but ive heard more tech stuff in linux channels so far | 19:46 |
| Kilos | the series i can almost understand | 19:47 |
| Kilos | but they havent said sudo yet | 19:47 |
| * Kilos thinks geeks arent proper geeks if they dont know what sudo is | 19:54 | |
| inetpro | Kilos: you want to see geek stuff then you must read about clock stability | 19:56 |
| Kilos | no more rtfs | 19:56 |
| Kilos | inetpro i notice you are missing your morning greetings lately | 19:58 |
| Kilos | arent you well? | 19:59 |
| Kilos | night all . sleep tight | 20:04 |
| smile | Hi :) | 20:14 |
| magespawn | good night all | 20:36 |
| captine | evening all | 20:37 |
| smile | Good night | 20:38 |
| smile | Oh you meant to say hi, sorry :) | 20:41 |
| smile | How are you captine | 20:41 |
| captine | good thanks | 20:46 |
| captine | and you? | 20:46 |
| smile | I am fine :-) | 20:48 |
| smile | Just having trouble with my computer | 20:48 |
| smile | Hardware troubles | 20:48 |
| captine | bummer | 20:53 |
| captine | desktop or laptop | 20:54 |
| smile | Desktop. Laptop is doing ok | 20:55 |
| smile | Probably the power supply for my new ssd | 20:55 |
| captine | bummer | 21:02 |
| smile | I can fix stuff :-P | 21:04 |
| captine | thats good | 21:07 |
| captine | esp if it is an ssd. expensive thing to break | 21:08 |
| smile | Yeah. :) I hope the power supply is still good | 21:08 |
| smile | Slaapwel :) | 21:13 |
| melodie | bonne nuit, good night | 23:44 |
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