[05:20] Morning everyone [05:20] * pieter2627 o/ to all the early joiners [05:20] hi barrydk and everyone else [05:20] Morning [05:20] hi pieter2627 [05:20] ohi Jacques_Stry as well also too [05:20] Ooi oi Kilos [05:21] sorry i was distracted [05:21] * Jacques_Stry waves [05:21] bad greeter bot today [05:40] Kilos: at our age we cant get distracted anymore [05:40] hehe [05:41] wow 40 nicks and so early [05:42] was actually surprised about it yesterday - when i joined here last month top was 31 [05:42] lol [05:48] ive been trying for years to get 50 peeps here, most so far has been 47 at meeting night [05:48] i always said when we get to 50 i can retire [05:49] now ive been told its not in my contract , the retirement option [05:49] * pieter2627 is glad can != should [05:49] ? [05:50] * Jacques_Stry is glad can does not equal should [05:50] lol [05:50] != means is not the same (does not equal) [05:50] Programming syntax [05:50] ^^ [05:50] oh ty [05:51] * pieter2627 now knows why Kilos did not understand him yesterday [05:51] lol i know nothing about programming [05:52] but you went through the lpi? [05:52] only first 100 pages mainly that is on hardware [05:53] after that i gave up [05:53] when you pick it up again, start from the back :P [05:53] lol [05:53] ^^ [05:53] i tried python as well [05:53] whew [05:54] managed to do Hello World [05:54] and then the variables? [05:54] i dont like vim [05:55] even this restructured text is too heavy [05:55] i can learn but only while doing it then its forgotten [05:56] * pieter2627 thinks that a debugger is the best help for a beginner - can remember trying to learn js without it [05:56] that is how you are suppose to learn [05:57] when reading a book i often have to reread previous passages to pick up the story again [05:57] 'my ram is broken [05:58] but i love fiddling with hardware [05:58] then i can see what i am doing and dont have to remember what i have done [05:59] * pieter2627 thinks about leaving before he has to help fixing something [05:59] lol [06:04] all you guys did a wonderful job on the site, ty so much [06:04] 'Welcome. [06:04] * DalekSec ducks [06:05] hi there DalekSec [06:05] Howdy. [06:05] hehe you sneaky hey [06:05] have you seen the site in question [06:05] DalekSec ^ [06:06] http://ubuntu-africa.info [06:08] Same framework as -za, but a bit different. [06:09] very different [06:09] hit refresh a few times and watch the pictures change [06:16] * pieter2627 now has time to find out about Kilos's broken ram [06:16] lol dont you know the story? [06:16] sjoe [06:17] oh, just figured it out [06:17] my head was bust open by a windmill and my ram leaked out [06:17] what did you figure out [06:18] that ram is a metaphor [06:18] ya that thing [06:19] i arrived at hospital doa and was rebooted in icu [06:20] so some things in head dont work like normal peeps [06:20] with regard to ram leakage in the topic above, the same applies in programming (at least you can leave comments in the code) [06:20] lol [06:21] they should have flashed ubuntu rather that reboot :P [06:21] haha [06:55] Morning [06:55] My Google Chome keeps crashing :/ [06:55] hi Squirm [07:00] have you tried another browser Squirm [07:01] might not be chrome thats sick [07:23] eish power cut tomorrow from 0800 till 1600 for maintenance on lines [07:26] eish some more on second read 1800 [07:26] >.< [07:34] ouch [07:34] Kilos: But I like chrome :/ [07:34] Syncs all my devices [07:34] it might be a deeper prob Squirm [07:35] How's your ram usage? Is your pc maybe runnung out of ram? [07:35] Mmmm, yeah, I think it's because my 8Gb of RAM can't handle my browsing needs [07:35] so if other browser also crashes then find out why then go back to chrome [07:35] lol [07:35] Jacques_Stry: I know it is [07:35] Chrome is a memory hog(I had a more colourful word in mind) [07:36] Chrome is but how many tabs do you have to run out of ram on 8gb? [07:37] when I open Chrome, 15 tabs open up, tabs I use very often. [07:37] So then... Due to work, many more tabs get opened [07:38] ai! opera open 20 + tabs here everyday and often gets to 40+ and dont crash [07:39] and i got 4g ram [07:39] but i dont stream stuff [07:39] On chrome you usually use +-250mb per tab so 15 tabs already equals about 4gb of ram used [07:39] Kilos: yeah... Firefox is also good. But I like Chrome :/ [07:39] Jacques_Stry: indeed. Unless you've had mybroadband or Facebook open for a day or two, then they move up to ~500mb [07:40] is chromium the same hog or a bit better [07:40] >.< [07:40] Should be a bit lighter i think [07:40] but no built in flash [07:41] so you have to install it separately [07:42] I have 34 Chrome Helper Processes running [07:42] I have so much open. I'm using SWAP [07:43] But thanks to my SSD, it's quite a usable machine [07:43] I hardly notice the SWAP usage, unless I had to open my VM [07:45] 15.04 currently has a issue with the mediascanner service [07:45] slow down recognition of new drives and uses 750mb+ ram [07:46] disabling [07:46] sjoe === MaNI2 is now known as MaNI [07:47] Just letting you guys know if you upgrade [07:48] there are still tons of bugs that need fixing [07:48] they most likely last minute rush them [07:48] Well I usually disable the service anyway - no point in it for me anyway [07:48] ill stay on 14.04 i think [07:49] Squirm: firefox has an add-on called UnloadTab to unload tabs that have not been used for a while which i use (maybe chrome has similar) [07:49] pieter2627: cool [07:49] pieter2627: does the tab stay open? Just dead? [07:50] I've started using evernote again, for article storage, so I don't leave tabs open for future use [07:50] I also disabled loading tabs on startup until needed... [07:50] yes stayes open is just unloaded from ram [07:51] for me this helps to have 150 tabs open (in groups) on 2Gb [07:52] O.O [07:52] pinned tabs just aren't unloaded [07:54] can try this: https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fchrome.google.com%2Fwebstore%2Fdetail%2Fthe-great-suspender%2Fklbibkeccnjlkjkiokjodocebajanakg%3Fhl%3Den&ei=GgI2VZKfL-TC7gaumoHADQ&usg=AFQjCNGRTAXowoxT0jhIpq-MClgBZGMVxw&sig2=8yL-xKr5fDmN3F3eDSH3gw&bvm=bv.91071109,d.bGQ [07:55] Sorry for long link [07:56] Jacques_Stry use maaz in pm to shorten them [07:56] Will do [07:56] command is maaz shorten link [07:56] doesnt worry me though [07:57] a link is a link even if its hanging off the screen at times [07:57] ^^ [08:35] pieter2627 youre plan didnt work [08:36] doesnt it disconnect when you are afk [08:45] konversation frooze when i clicked the link [08:47] oh my [08:48] you on kde or konversation on unity [09:01] the plan didn't work, but a restart did [09:01] am testing kubuntu 15.04 [09:04] aha [09:05] just try sudo aptitude reinstall konversation and see if it wants to download anything [09:06] sjoe 15.04 kde with 2g ram [09:06] you are petient [09:06] patient [09:08] i would expect it to download konversation since it is not in my cache [09:08] ah [09:08] the plasmashell only uses about 150Mb? [09:09] with ff closed, using 1.3Gb [09:09] im bang to upgrade because everything is so lekker stable on 14.04 [09:10] nah, i love new toys :) [09:10] lol [09:13] * pieter2627 can confirm that it downloaded only konversation [09:14] and you done an aptitude upgrade? [09:15] why is youre cache empty [09:15] busy with that now (using apt-get) [09:16] because it is a fresh install [09:16] oh you still installing [09:16] nope, checking for updates [09:17] when youve done apt-get upgrade then do aptitude upgrade [09:17] ok [09:18] im a serious aptitude fan [09:18] yeah i've seen so [09:18] haha [09:19] i wonder if fly and pro are still aptitude peeps [09:20] they the ones that taught me to use it [09:20] hi ThatGraemeGuy [09:20] you and pro talked about it with the africa build instructions [09:20] oh [09:21] that's how "i've seen so" [09:21] lol [10:03] pieter2627 comment from above [10:03] MooDoo> how about the learn more button in the ubuntu africa section lining up with the other two buttons so it doesn't look like it's out of place....like i said very trivial [10:04] comment? [10:05] the top guys are looking at the site [10:06] you can go see comments on #ubuntu-locoteams [10:07] ok will check the logs... they want the learn more button to line up with the others? [10:07] it was just a trivial suggestion [10:08] yea, i used wrong wording... it sounds good, will try and give a screenshot later [10:09] cool ty [10:09] no rush [10:10] its at the council for approval [10:10] oky [10:10] so even Mark will look at it [10:12] we might need to add some french greeting there too, i just need to find out how many countries use french as first language [10:13] the drc havent joined the irc channel so far because they are all french [10:17] hi Kilos [10:41] Kilos: http://pasteboard.co/2JePjRzI.png [10:41] that is a quick firebug tickering... there might be some issues; will need fly and pro's input [10:42] let me find the old one and see the diffs [10:42] Kilos: http://ubuntu-africa.info/ [10:43] wbbl - gonna have lunch [10:43] i have it open all the time just need to find which tab [10:43] enjoy [10:47] hi all [10:47] hi Padroni you well? [10:48] Iam [10:48] you? [10:48] yes ty [10:48] trying to get the guys from the Ubuntu-SA FB page to join here [10:48] i just got the mail [10:48] i saw the whats that hehe [10:49] what mail? [10:49] * Padroni just switched to Cinnamon [10:49] i get mails everytime something im part of gets changed [10:50] even when strangers membership expires sigh [10:50] who's memberrship expired? [10:51] some ubuntu member [10:52] im bang if i unsubscribe then i miss important stuff [10:52] so i take the good with the useless info [10:56] and the fb mails keep me up to date with what happens with family and friends without me nneding to go to fb [10:56] needing [10:58] Hey Padroni [10:58] yo Jacques_Stry [10:58] long time... [10:59] Looks like everytime I log in your offline and visa-versa [10:59] :) [11:00] You on cinnamon? Mmmm... [11:00] hmm... [11:00] You on Mint now or Still normal ubuntu [11:01] ubuntu, but trying out Cinnamon [11:01] I remember cinnamon from my days of using Mint [11:01] it's pretty [11:02] * Padroni is flying up to PTA on Thursday [11:04] what you doing in PTA [11:09] court on friday [11:09] >.< [11:09] ai! [11:09] yes [11:09] Taking my laptop and iPad [11:09] what a schlep [11:09] series-binge thursday and friday [11:10] oh well [11:10] I miss 2 days of work [11:10] so there's that [11:10] yeah but when you get back more to catch up [11:10] so you dont miss much actually [11:11] * Padroni waves at Squirm [11:11] * Squirm eyes Padroni [11:11] I thought it was you [11:12] haha [11:12] * Padroni be recruitin' [11:12] Help that simon guy to get in too [11:12] he says he can't chat from the site [11:12] Strange [11:16] Hey Guys :) [11:16] hey Simon-JHB [11:16] * Jacques_Stry waves [11:16] Welcome [11:16] lol it took me 10 hours to figure out how to send a text in this chatroom LOL [11:16] Haha [11:16] ^^ [11:17] damn son [11:17] how come/ [11:17] ? [11:18] So pals where do you all stay? I am in JHB as my name suggest [11:18] hi qwebirc15858 [11:19] pta [11:19] ohi Simon-JHB too [11:21] Padroni my keyboard has many keys, so it' a struggle to find the right keys to construct a sentence in English HAHAHA [11:21] lunch time, chat later [11:21] lol [11:21] Okay later Squirm! [11:22] jy kan die taal praat ook [11:22] not too much Squirm [11:22] hehe [11:22] Simon is new [11:22] he is from Facebook [11:22] on the interwebs [11:22] cool [11:23] now teach him to install an irc client [11:23] should have xchat by default? [11:23] there you go then [11:23] @Kilos haha YES please, will someone teach me how to install irc client... [11:24] you using unity? [11:24] No I am using Gnome [11:24] oi i dont know what gnome interface is like but anyway open a terminal [11:25] ctrl+alt+t [11:25] then type in xchat [11:25] Padroni havent you used gnome? [11:25] cool thanks, let me do that, will update on how it goes.. [11:26] ok [11:26] i had Unity [11:26] the ubuntu default one [11:26] when it opens choose freenode and edit on the right [11:26] * pieter2627 notes to kilos that ctrl+alt+t doesn't seem to be cross flavour default - it does not work in kubuntu 15.04 :( [11:27] 'no in kde you can set what you want [11:27] i have ctrl+t as mine [11:27] pieter2627 that looks good to me [11:27] yeah, but default was nice [11:27] we need to shake inetpro [11:28] you guys can decide because its all the same to me [11:28] oh hi Simon-JHB and qwebirc15858 [11:30] Kilos: there is just two diff ways to implement it - will need to decide which to use [11:30] Hi Pieter2627, will anyone please teach me Afrikaans, I forgot it the minute I left Free State to JHB :( [11:30] when Simon-JHB has a client going pieter2627 then ill look for how [11:30] in settings somewhere [11:30] lol [11:31] Simon-JHB wen jy met die xchat ding [11:32] Simon-JHB: sudo apt-get install xchat [11:32] Kilos I am done installing it, I am now getting the settings okay [11:33] ok [11:33] i thought it was in already [11:34] Jacques_Stry will you take over? [11:34] pretty please [11:34] will do [11:34] im a kde and konversation man now [11:35] ty [11:35] Simon-JHB: In the network list choose FreeNode [11:36] Hey guys, Thanks Jacques [11:36] Simon-JHB: Go to edit - in favorite channels add "#ubuntu-za,#ubuntu-africa,etc" without the " for all the channels you want to use [11:36] haha your here [11:37] lol haha yeah bud, this things are not pap and vleis [11:37] Glad nie [11:37] hahaha [11:38] once you are used to it you cant live without your daily chat [11:38] hahaha now I can breath a sigh of relief #hhhmmm [11:38] I hope so @Kilos [11:38] and you get free cyber coffee [11:38] Maaz coffee on [11:38] * Maaz puts the kettle on [11:39] Maaz: with milk [11:39] Haha Jacques_Stry You aren't one of those that needs to drink black coffee to be able to cast a shadow! [11:39] hahaha now you making me crave for real black coffee [11:39] Maaz: with 2 sugar please [11:39] pieter2627: What? [11:40] * pieter2627 is gonna have bitter coffee [11:40] maaz with sugar [11:40] Help yourself outa the sugar pot [11:40] Guys how long has this community been going? [11:40] years [11:40] Kilos: how do i tell maaz... oh [11:40] Well I have only been here about 2 Months [11:40] Maaz: coffee please [11:40] pieter2627: Done [11:41] Maaz with cremora [11:41] Ah! At last someone with taste [11:41] Maaz and milk [11:41] Now you're talking [11:42] what is the main duty of the community? [11:42] Coffee's ready for Kilos and pieter2627! [11:43] we help new guys sort problems they are having [11:43] Maaz dankie man [11:43] Groot plesier my vriend [11:43] maaz grazie [11:43] pieter2627: Excuse me? [11:43] maaz thanks [11:43] pieter2627: No problem [11:43] the bot is a toy at times and other times does out monthly meeting minutes etc [11:44] okay cool! [11:44] * pieter2627 needs to learn this thing - so will cont to push it [11:45] Maaz help [11:45] Kilos: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [11:45] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [11:45] pieter2627 better to pm the bot and then work your way through all it can do [11:46] Maaz help me with do all my programming work for me [11:46] MaNI: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [11:46] aww [11:46] ok (msg or query?) [11:47] So guys what are typical professions of users in this group? [11:47] all IT guys and me [11:47] mechanic and farmer and greeter bot [11:48] w0000t [11:48] news from the top [11:48] On 21/04/2015 13:05, Michael Hall wrote: [11:48] > I see no problems or concerns with this site, everything looks great to me. [11:52] Alright if by any chance there's anyone who does some work in python(Django/Cherrypy) and they have some to outsource they can do so to me, I just wanna keep my python skills active, there's inst much python going on in SA hence I settled for php [11:55] * Padroni has been here 2 months and is widely considered an expert on nothing in particular [11:55] oh simon__ you really want to wake up all python skills [11:56] you can rewrite our bot in python3 [11:56] Yeah Kilos I love python. [11:56] what is "bot"? [11:56] great you will get on well with superfly [11:56] robot [11:56] oh lol [11:56] the coffee maker [11:56] its in the repos [11:56] ibid [11:57] what is it on currently? [11:57] python 2 or 2.7 im not sure [11:58] but doesnt tork in 14.04 or later that want python 3 [11:58] lol but then if it's in 2.7 then why go python3? 2.7 has great matured fueatures [11:58] if you are here tonight superfly or inetpro can explain [11:58] okay cool, what time? [11:59] normally when they get home and sometimes after supper and on the odd occasion during the day [12:00] depending on work of course [12:00] okie dokie, will pop in later then, I have to get back to work as well! [12:01] cool nice to have you here [12:01] we are here all day [12:01] likewise [12:02] Padroni nice catch [12:11] ty [12:13] i love it when clever peeps join, i cant help them [12:13] >.< [12:24] * Squirm looks around [12:25] hehe [12:29] hi theamoeba [12:29] hey pieter2627 :) [12:29] Kilos: greeter bot seems broken [12:29] hi theamoeba welcome to ubuntu-za [12:29] just slow pieter2627 [12:29] but i have you guys too [12:30] yeah, but i don't know who is new and who is returning [12:31] doesnt matter as long as peeps are greeted [12:31] ty for standing in [12:33] haha if you greet and they welcome you then they are old peeps returning [12:33] haha, yeah makes sense [12:34] but wont be many old hands popping in i think [12:34] most are here now or you have met them already === jacques_ is now known as Jacques_Stry [13:10] Right [13:10] I am off to lunch with the wife. [13:10] laters, folks. [13:10] cheers Padroni go safe tomorrow [13:10] is your laters a tomorrow thing [13:10] or tonight [13:10] either [13:11] ai! [13:11] Cheers, enjoy [13:25] Going home, chat later o/ [13:25] cheers Jacques_Stry [13:39] lo all [13:43] hi ta [13:43] ai! [15:06] ai! die domdonner darem [15:39] hi drussell [15:40] Heya Kilos [15:55] byebye [15:56] oh my he didnt even say anything but byebye [16:01] Kilos therefore he did say something! Hello here btw! o/ [16:10] where [16:10] welcome to ubuntu-za melodie [16:11] oh she gone for a walk [17:00] hi pieter2627 [17:02] evening Kilos [17:17] pieter2627 hou bietjie daai comment en jou oplossing handig vir die pro asb [17:17] ek verloor en vergeet goet [17:18] reg [17:27] So [17:27] I'm the only one in the office [17:27] http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4306582111 [17:31] hi rejerson69 welcome to ubuntu-za [17:32] Squirm what time do you guys close shop for the day? [17:33] i tyhought IT peeps go home at 4 pm [17:33] thought [17:33] Generally 17h30ish [17:48] good evening [17:53] hi magespawn [17:53] good evening everyone else [17:53] oh and that includes oom Kilos [17:53] haha hi there inetpro [17:54] what did i miss oom Kilos? [17:54] ohi superfly [17:54] only me making mistooks inetpro [17:54] ? [17:55] oh and a comment on the site [17:55] only one comment? [17:55] see pm man im shy to show here [17:55] ai! [17:55] inetpro did you get a ec2? [17:55] comment on improving the look [17:55] hi my magespawn [17:56] hi Kilos [17:56] say hi to melodie guys [17:56] just because you are now a ubuntu larny, does not mean you can give up the greeter bot duties [17:57] yes sorry magespawn [17:57] oom Kilos tell sabdfl to come and visit us here man [17:57] im sure he dont wanna visit dom donners [17:57] hah Kilos, lol [17:57] ai! [17:58] i havent found him on irc yet [17:58] im also sure he is the only one on the council that understands my email addy [17:58] Kilos: melodie is away at the moment [17:59] she is a skelm and sometimes chats in away mode [18:00] ah... [18:00] melodie ping [18:00] welcome to #ubuntu-za melodie [18:01] oh inetpro i posted the one reply i got from the committee [18:02] MooDoo> how about the learn more button in the ubuntu africa section lining up with the other two buttons so it doesn't look like it's out of place....like i said very trivial [18:02] ai! im too old to have to scroll so far man [18:03] we also have a new python person that will look at rewriting ibid into python 3 [18:04] i told him to speak to you guys [18:04] he asked why python 3 when 2.7 has all those features [18:05] all i could say was we need three to make it work here [18:05] the fly would argue for the latest version i think [18:07] inetpro did you get a ec2? [18:07] thats why i said ask him and pro for the reasons [18:07] yes he did magespawn [18:07] even offered to run QA there when he has time [18:08] do you know what he has been using it for? [18:08] hmm... [18:09] oh to host hibana [18:09] hehe [18:09] hibana ping [18:12] magespawn: oh, I'm here [18:13] somewhere in Ireland [18:13] he is* [18:13] inetpro http://pasteboard.co/2JePjRzI.png [18:14] thats what pieter2627 suggested after the moodoo comment [18:16] pieter2627: looks good, what do you need from us? [18:16] Kilos: log a bug for us [18:16] he will be back at 8.30 [18:17] a bug for where? [18:17] any issues that people identify can be logged as bugs [18:17] we dont have bugs, only things to move around [18:17] fixing bugs is all part of the learning process [18:17] hi Simon-JHB [18:17] wb SilverCode [18:18] hey Kilos, how are you doing? [18:18] oops... Simon-JHB [18:18] inetpro Simon-JHB is the python man [18:18] hey inetpro haha [18:18] hmm... Kilos, who's SilverCode? [18:18] im good ty and you? [18:18] I'm well thanks! [18:19] Kilos: looks like your family is growing by the day? [18:19] inetpro can you point him to the source code please [18:19] ai! [18:19] lol for ibid man [18:20] Kilos: https://trello.com/c/od4hQ8XH [18:20] I think inetpro needs so strong black coffee to help him concentrate :) [18:20] yeah [18:20] Simon-JHB https://github.com/ibid/ibid [18:21] i hope thats it [18:21] okay will check it out, give me brief intro on the system you pointing me to? [18:21] Simon-JHB: please join us on Trello as well https://trello.com/b/GKXXiBxU/ubuntu-south-africa-loco [18:22] it is the bot we have here written in python by our guys that silicon valley stole from us [18:22] will do inetpro, thanks! [18:23] Isn't silicon valley based in America? if so then no surprise by that :) [18:24] yeah our dev guys are there now [18:26] Kilos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-africa/+filebug [18:26] ai! [18:26] didnt you read the comment [18:26] very trivial [18:28] hibana cant you put the breaks on that guy [18:29] how can he file a bug on my beautiful site [18:29] magespawn you supposed to support man [18:29] Kilos: a bug is a bug [18:30] ai! [18:31] hibana go back to ireland [18:31] oh my [18:33] magespawn: currently I'm not doing much with with my ec2 other than giving hibana his own home on the globe [18:34] * hibana goes back to sleep [18:34] lol [18:35] Okay thanks for the links guys, I will go through the source code on github to familiarise myself with the system logic [18:36] inetpro: there are two ways to implement that... [18:36] cool [18:36] Simon-JHB: I'm sure Kilos is very happy to see someone working on ibid again at long last [18:37] 1) using something that is considered a css hack thingy - does not work in ie7 or less [18:37] yeah very very happy [18:37] 2) using a new css3 attribute that also has ie support issues - just have to confirm others [18:38] lol haha @inetpro I love python, so I badly needed something to help me communicate with this beauty, I am tired working with php but it pays the bills [18:38] who are active members on the system beside you Kilos of-course? [18:39] not me [18:39] there is a channel [18:39] but i think they all in silicon valley now [18:39] Maaz ibid.channel [18:39] Kilos: Sorry... [18:40] Maaz ibid channel [18:40] irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org [18:40] al-right [18:40] tumbleweed you here? [18:40] the support for option 2 (http://caniuse.com/#feat=flexbox) [18:40] Kilos: hi [18:41] inetpro: so don't know which to use [18:41] ohi tumbleweed we have a guy that will look at rewriting ibid [18:41] into python 3 [18:42] can you just be stanby in case he needs some help please [18:42] maybe once a week or so [18:42] or via email [18:42] Kilos: I'm around to help, yes [18:43] there's an ibid development IRC channel [18:43] cool ty tumbleweed [18:43] irc://autumn.cpt.za.atrum.org [18:43] that one [18:43] that's just a server [18:43] #ibid on atrum [18:43] Simon-JHB are you watching [18:43] if nobody replies (I forget to look at that channel), ping me or Vhata [18:44] yeah I am watching Kilos.. [18:44] tumbleweed maintained ibid for years [18:44] hi tumbleweed nice to meet you! [18:44] so i think do what you can then where you get stuck we can ping tumbleweed [18:45] Simon-JHB: you too [18:45] yeah sounds great Kilos [18:45] cool [18:46] actually someone else did some work there too and gave up [18:46] hmm... [18:46] what server are we rewriting it to again Kilos? [18:46] i think he added a braai function [18:46] pieter2627: you really think we should care much about ie7 or less? [18:47] Simon-JHB rewrite the whole thing then we install on our pcs for testing purposes first [18:47] ai! [18:47] hahaha maybe he got a kid/s and wife/husband then responsibilities started piling up, that's the possibility [18:48] no imo, but i don't know the feelings of you guys who are 'on top' [18:48] then if all runs well we ask the host of maaz to upgrade or we run it by inetpro [18:48] pieter2627: feelings? haha [18:48] pieter2627 explain that please [18:48] pieter2627: we live in a do-ocracy here [18:48] okay Kilos [18:49] do you mean ie7 wont be able to see the site? [18:49] Kilos: no man [18:49] thats why i asked explain [18:49] maybe if they couldn't see it, they shouldn't anyway [18:50] Kilos: i don't know if you might care about cross browser compatibility [18:50] that is something to think about [18:51] because how will you attract new peeps to ubuntu if they cant open it [18:51] oh wait [18:51] if they using ie they have probs anyway [18:51] Kilos: nou verstaan jy [18:51] we can fly over africa and drop flyers saying install firefox [18:52] hehe [18:52] ya pieter2627 forget ie [18:52] Kilos: at least the buttons won't line up in this case - site still functional [18:53] i didnt understand the comment in the first place [18:53] werent things supposed to line up [18:53] Kilos: ok, will see to push a branch tommorow if it will fix a bug :) [18:53] yay ty pieter2627 [18:54] Kilos: did you get his message even? [18:54] Kilos: they don't currently [18:54] whose? [18:54] "if it will fix a bug" [18:54] Kilos: log a bug [18:54] Addis Addis... [18:54] i ignored that on purpose [18:54] my dev team dont make mistakes [18:55] oh, should i also include that spelling bug :P in the branch [18:55] eeek [18:55] yes please [18:55] pieter2627: go for it [18:56] pieter2627: and anything else you see, or think should be modified or added [18:58] inetpro: i am currently trying to figure out how to create a custom directive for reStructureedText in Nikola since some aren't native to bootstrap [18:58] inetpro: you wouldn't maybe know how to do this [18:59] inetpro loves reStructureedText [19:00] pieter2627: sounds interesting but I'm afraid I'm still a newbie when it comes to reStructuredText, let alone Nikola [19:00] * pieter2627 has the same issue [19:00] if you dont try youll never learn [19:02] pieter2627: join #nikola and ask them for advice perhaps [19:03] inetpro: that will help ty [19:13] pieter2627: is anyone still using ie7? [19:17] magespawn: good question [19:17] * inetpro hasn't looked at stats for a long time [19:17] http://www.w3counter.com/trends [19:17] very interesting [19:18] magespawn: i don't think one should count those that do as any one :P so no [19:18] but then again, maybe we should look at africa stats [19:19] forget ie [19:19] if the cant even guess that there are better browsers out there they wont guess there are better operating systems out there [19:20] just to confirm, it is option 2 (css3) that should be used right (just confused myself)? [19:21] where are the other webmasters around here? [19:21] moppie still away for 4 weeks more [19:22] w0op [19:23] me tired, night all [19:23] night pieter2627 ty [19:23] sleep tight [19:23] good night pieter2627 [19:24] oh and thanks for staying in there [19:24] hmm... [19:24] lol [19:44] i see they are doing a CSI Cyber [19:44] oh yeah watch 2 so far i think [19:46] and? [19:46] not bad [19:46] hmm [19:46] but ive heard more tech stuff in linux channels so far [19:47] the series i can almost understand [19:47] but they havent said sudo yet [19:54] * Kilos thinks geeks arent proper geeks if they dont know what sudo is [19:56] Kilos: you want to see geek stuff then you must read about clock stability [19:56] no more rtfs [19:58] inetpro i notice you are missing your morning greetings lately [19:59] arent you well? [20:04] night all . sleep tight [20:14] Hi :) [20:36] good night all [20:37] evening all [20:38] Good night [20:41] Oh you meant to say hi, sorry :) [20:41] How are you captine [20:46] good thanks [20:46] and you? [20:48] I am fine :-) [20:48] Just having trouble with my computer [20:48] Hardware troubles [20:53] bummer [20:54] desktop or laptop [20:55] Desktop. Laptop is doing ok [20:55] Probably the power supply for my new ssd [21:02] bummer [21:04] I can fix stuff :-P [21:07] thats good [21:08] esp if it is an ssd. expensive thing to break [21:08] Yeah. :) I hope the power supply is still good [21:13] Slaapwel :) [23:44] bonne nuit, good night