| cyphermox | ahoneybun: if you want to test dailies, make sure you look at iso.qa.ubuntu.com to see which image is up for testing, and mark it so we know you're testing something | 00:58 |
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| ahoneybun | cyphermox: I have been | 01:21 |
| ahoneybun | mark? | 01:23 |
| ahoneybun | any ninjas around? | 01:34 |
| ahoneybun | latest build work fine with manual partitioning | 01:45 |
| valorie | you are marking that in the qa site, right? | 01:47 |
| valorie | I assume that is what cyphermox meant, ahoneybun | 01:47 |
| ahoneybun | no way to | 01:47 |
| valorie | what? | 01:48 |
| valorie | of course there is | 01:48 |
| valorie | what would be the point of a qa site with no way to report results? | 01:48 |
| ahoneybun | now there is | 01:48 |
| ahoneybun | it keeps disappearing | 01:49 |
| valorie | strange | 01:49 |
| ahoneybun | unless there is a new image... | 01:49 |
| valorie | new image today; the final | 01:49 |
| ahoneybun | damn it | 01:49 |
| ahoneybun | I keep being late | 01:50 |
| valorie | about 4 hours ago | 01:50 |
| ahoneybun | 20150421.1 | 01:50 |
| ahoneybun | I have 20150421 | 01:50 |
| valorie | [14:16] [Notice] -queuebot to #kubuntu-devel- [16:52:54] Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Vivid Final] has been updated (20150421.1) | 01:50 |
| valorie | [14:16] [Notice] -queuebot to #kubuntu-devel- [16:52:59] Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Vivid Final] has been updated (20150421.1) | 01:50 |
| valorie | heh | 01:50 |
| * ahoneybun did not see that | 01:50 | |
| valorie | you can zsync it | 01:50 |
| * ahoneybun clueless | 01:50 | |
| valorie | should only take a sec to update | 01:51 |
| valorie | !zsync | 01:51 |
| ubottu | Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage | 01:51 |
| ahoneybun | so I could see report my findings without reinstalling> | 01:51 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 01:51 |
| valorie | you'll have to update your iso | 01:52 |
| valorie | and reload that | 01:52 |
| valorie | or just upgrade | 01:52 |
| valorie | you are testing in a vm? | 01:53 |
| * ahoneybun has redownload, reinstalled 3-4 times and has one 1 report | 01:53 | |
| ahoneybun | real hardware | 01:53 |
| valorie | just update and full-upgrade | 01:53 |
| valorie | and you'll be golden | 01:54 |
| ahoneybun | and then report my findings? | 01:54 |
| * ahoneybun wants to leave reports to help | 01:56 | |
| valorie | yes of course | 02:14 |
| === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun | ||
| soee | good morning | 06:19 |
| vip | hello | 07:51 |
| soee | hiho vip | 07:51 |
| Riddell | ddddd | 08:16 |
| Riddell | sorry, fixing space bar :) | 08:16 |
| soee | :p | 08:18 |
| Riddell | so, 1 day to release | 08:18 |
| Riddell | testing testing! | 08:18 |
| Riddell | !testers | ISOs! | 08:18 |
| ubottu | ISOs!: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip for information | 08:18 |
| Riddell | jose: ovidiu-florin: how's the new website coming? | 08:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | <jose> the thing is already on the works | 08:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | <jose> I have already passed it on to them, they have the file already | 08:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | <jose> status, ask IS | 08:21 |
| vip | Riddell: only if I know the path to download .iso... | 08:21 |
| Riddell | vip: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds will have the links | 08:21 |
| soee | ;) | 08:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | I don't know what IS is | 08:21 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: we're in release candidate period, we don't make dailies we just respin when we find problems with fixes | 08:22 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: it means sysadmins in some silly professonal language | 08:22 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: #canonical-sysadmin | 08:22 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok | 08:22 |
| ovidiu-florin | thanks | 08:22 |
| Riddell | I started a 15.10 board because someone contected me about kphotoalbum https://trello.com/b/knlSk3FO/15-10 | 09:00 |
| Riddell | contacted | 09:00 |
| sitter | Riddell: needs admins assigned | 09:34 |
| sitter | https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Trello | 09:34 |
| yofel | Riddell: the -dev packages are broken? | 09:39 |
| yofel | oh, right, someone dropped them in utopic.... | 09:43 |
| Riddell | yofel: there's two people packaging kphotoalbum in ppas, I'll try and get them to come into kubuntu | 09:49 |
| Riddell | sitter: I added organisation people is that right? | 09:49 |
| yofel | what do they different from the archive packaging? add those -dev libs somehow? | 09:49 |
| Riddell | yes and a couple of patches to make the dev packages actually work for external apps | 09:50 |
| Riddell | digikam is most annoying in its habit of having libraries which are sometimes but not always external | 09:50 |
| Riddell | really the world should be just like qtwebengine and bundle everything :) | 09:51 |
| Riddell | mitya57: Mirv: have you guys seen that discussion on kde-core-devel? | 09:51 |
| Riddell | seems we aren't going to package it in ubuntu http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.core/86778 | 09:52 |
| Riddell | right, plasma 5.3 backports should be ready now | 09:52 |
| yofel | we already have that, it's called windows | 09:52 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:53 |
| sitter | Riddell: read the wiki page? you need to enable the organization to join and then add a couple and mark them admin | 09:54 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Regarding bug 1445383 (the Akonadi bug), in todays image I can launch the KAddressBook without issues. Akonadi is also running quite a few processes. | 10:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1445383 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "Akonadi server is broken after mysql update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445383 | 10:18 |
| lordievader | Not entirely sure how to test the bug further. | 10:18 |
| Riddell | lordievader: lovely, thanks | 10:18 |
| lordievader | This is a live-session by the by. | 10:18 |
| Riddell | I guess set up e-mail if you can but that's faffy | 10:18 |
| lordievader | With Gmail's Application passwords that is a bit annoying. Do you mind if I skip that? | 10:19 |
| Riddell | sure | 10:19 |
| yofel | I think to properly test that, you would have to set up akonadi with mysql 5.5, then update mysql to 5.6 and see what happens | 10:20 |
| lordievader | yofel: I can do that when it's installed, sure. | 10:21 |
| yofel | as vivid only has 5.6, easyest way would probably be an utopic -> vivid upgrade | 10:21 |
| * lordievader doesn't have Utopic available. | 10:22 | |
| lordievader | The live-cd has 5.6 installed. | 10:22 |
| yofel | you could probably add the utopic sources and switch mysql to 5.5 (after stopping akonadi and wiping the DB) | 10:23 |
| Riddell | I'll test the upgrade in a bit | 10:23 |
| * Riddell publishes http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta | 10:27 | |
| Riddell | mparillo: one for social media (not wire) http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta | 10:28 |
| Mirv | Riddell: I've followed lisandro's talks on the topic on the #debian-qt-kde | 10:34 |
| soee | Riddell: did you fixed the 2 issues (kubntu-desktop and ksysguard in 5.3 beta ) ? | 10:42 |
| mparillo | Riddell: Got it. 5.3 beta is already better for me on physical HW than 5.2, but a total mess in my VMware VM when I use open-vm-tools-desktop to enable maximizing my window. Of course, total mess is a bad bug report, so any tips on reporting it. | 10:42 |
| yofel | what happens? | 10:43 |
| soee | only these packages will be removed when upgrading to 5.3: libksgrd5 libksignalplotter5 libprocesscore5 libprocessui5 right ? | 10:45 |
| mparillo | The panel stays in the middle of the screen, everything becomes blurry, and almost completely unresponsive. | 10:45 |
| kfunk | what? 5.3 features energy consumption stats? cool :0 | 10:45 |
| yofel | kfunk: in kinfocenter? | 10:46 |
| kfunk | yeah | 10:46 |
| yofel | sweet, need to look at that later | 10:46 |
| * kfunk gotta upgrade | 10:46 | |
| kfunk | yofel: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.3/kinfocenter-energy.png | 10:46 |
| kfunk | looks fancy | 10:46 |
| yofel | \o/ | 10:47 |
| soee | i like thi name: libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1 | 10:48 |
| kfunk | yofel: it even works! | 10:51 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Regarding the other bug of yesterday (Libreoffice), the installer finished correctly even with the update checkbox checked. | 10:53 |
| Riddell | lordievader: which language? | 10:56 |
| soee | reboot | 10:56 |
| Riddell | soee: yes but please test them by removing staging ppa and adding kubuntu-ppa/beta and checking you can install kubuntu-desktop and kinfocenter and plasma-mediacenter and ksysguard | 10:57 |
| soee | back on 5.3beta | 11:01 |
| lordievader | Riddell: English. | 11:02 |
| mparillo | Tweeted, G+'d, and Facebooked. Are we close enough to test https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu omitting the apply 14.10 updates step. | 11:07 |
| soee | in 5.3beta konversation has some straneg icon oO | 11:08 |
| mparillo | soee: Like a megaphone? | 11:08 |
| soee | mparillo: yes | 11:08 |
| lordievader | yofel: How do I stop akonadi and wipe the db? | 11:09 |
| * ahoneybun is a admin :) | 11:09 | |
| mparillo | In default breeze, it is a colored megaphone on the application launcher, which makes it a closer match to the white megaphone in the black oval I get when I drag it down the the panel. On 5.2, it was a cartoon balloon with a hash inside on the application launcher. | 11:10 |
| Riddell | lordievader: I wonder if it's language specific | 11:10 |
| Riddell | !testers | please check non-english installs | 11:11 |
| ubottu | please check non-english installs: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip for information | 11:11 |
| lordievader | Riddell: I'll set it to Dutch next time. | 11:11 |
| soee | ill able to test after 20:00 cet :( | 11:12 |
| Riddell | mparillo: yes please update VividUpgrades page (using images from UtopicUpgrades is fine for the muon notifications) and remove the 14.10 updates as I'm pretty sure that's not needed (testing now) and do test the upgrade :) | 11:13 |
| vip | Riddell: works | 11:13 |
| vip | Riddell: 64bit iso | 11:13 |
| Riddell | vip: what does? | 11:13 |
| vip | Riddell: installed under virtualbox, works, language: polish | 11:13 |
| Riddell | vip: great | 11:14 |
| lordievader | vip: With the update checkbox checked? | 11:15 |
| mparillo | Riddell: OK, testing the upgrade from 14.10 now. Will remove the bit about upgrading first if it works. | 11:15 |
| vip | lordievader: naarp, did next-next-next installation | 11:15 |
| lordievader | Hmm... | 11:15 |
| vip | lordievader: I can test it again, no problem | 11:15 |
| * lordievader wonders if the bug is triggered by non-english + update. | 11:15 | |
| lordievader | vip: I'll test it too. But with a different language ;) | 11:16 |
| Riddell | yeah I guess it'll be something obscure as else we'd have noticed it, maybe dutch :) | 11:18 |
| lordievader | Hehe, probably ;) | 11:19 |
| Riddell | scary thing, update-manager has a cache so I thought update notifications were not working but they are if you remove the cache | 11:20 |
| Riddell | hmm gb.archive is 10 times faster than es.archive even in spain | 11:22 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:37 |
| Riddell | hi BluesKaj, comeing to help out the vivid testing party? | 11:37 |
| === alvesadrian is now known as adrian | ||
| BluesKaj | Riddell, sure ...what's the chat name? | 11:38 |
| Riddell | umm, vivid testing party chat? | 11:39 |
| soee | ;) | 11:39 |
| BluesKaj | heh ok | 11:39 |
| Riddell | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds | 11:40 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Dutch install with updates completed. No problems. | 11:41 |
| Riddell | great | 11:43 |
| Riddell | lordievader: and the apps are all in dutch? | 11:43 |
| lordievader | Hehe, haven't seen a Dutch Kubuntu in ages... ;) | 11:43 |
| vip | same here | 11:43 |
| Riddell | ook | 11:43 |
| vip | but after installation, there are still 3 packages to update (as trayicon says) | 11:43 |
| lordievader | The only thing that I see is not in Dutch is the Driver Manger. | 11:44 |
| lordievader | All the rest seems Dutch. | 11:44 |
| BluesKaj | had a couple of crashes when exiting apps like konversation and kate, but immaterial since it didn'y happen during use | 11:46 |
| Riddell | that's because driver manager is translated in launchpad where there are not as many translators | 11:46 |
| Riddell | we've fixed that for Whimsy Wallnut | 11:46 |
| lordievader | Oehh, is that the codename for 15.10? | 11:46 |
| BluesKaj | oh no | 11:46 |
| Riddell | lordievader: it's the codename I just made up :) | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj | WW somewthing | 11:47 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Hehe, did you submit it as a suggestion? | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj | wacky wabbit | 11:47 |
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| sitter | Riddell: we don't have an official name yet do we? | 11:53 |
| lordievader | Hmm, X is broken after the oem-config... | 11:55 |
| Riddell | sitter: nope | 11:56 |
| sitter | most annoying | 11:57 |
| Riddell | lordievader: what's broken about it? | 11:57 |
| lordievader | Or it is sddm. | 11:57 |
| * Riddell is pretty resigned to saying oem wo't work on this release | 11:57 | |
| lordievader | When sddm is supposed to show I get a black screen. | 11:57 |
| lordievader | Does ssddm log somewhere? | 11:57 |
| Riddell | /var/log/sddm.log | 11:57 |
| lordievader | It shows some pam authentication failure. I didn't check any autologin stuff. | 11:59 |
| lordievader | Ah, X works. (If started manually anyways) | 12:01 |
| tuv0k | http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-jJytQt1P.png | 12:01 |
| BluesKaj | ok , going to try the daily on my other HDD, the upgrade here from 14.10 was more successful then the daily plus upgrades from 2 weeks ago in terms of plasma 4 supported apps like dolphin integration into plasma 5 ...the "look" between the 2 installs was very different | 12:01 |
| BluesKaj | then=than | 12:02 |
| lordievader | Hmm starting sddm manually doesn't give any hint on what is wrong. | 12:03 |
| lordievader | Riddell: No, can't pinpoint what is wrong with sddm. Should I file a bug or is it simply too bad? | 12:04 |
| BluesKaj | did you do systemctl enable sddm | 12:04 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: It starts that is not the problem. | 12:05 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 12:05 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Oeh... would it be that it tries to automatically login as the oem user? | 12:05 |
| Riddell | lordievader: on the first reboot it should try to automatically login | 12:07 |
| Riddell | dunno if that works at all with sddm | 12:07 |
| Riddell | then you set up your computer and run oem-config-prepare | 12:08 |
| Riddell | and on the next reboot it should start oem-cofig (ubiquity in oem mode) for the user who just bought the computer | 12:08 |
| lordievader | Riddell: This is after running the oem-config. | 12:08 |
| lordievader | After the first reboot the oem user log in just fine. | 12:09 |
| Riddell | then you run oem-config-prepare? | 12:09 |
| lordievader | After issueing the oem-config-prepare and rebooting I get the wizard. | 12:09 |
| lordievader | Then after that reboot. I get a black screen. | 12:09 |
| lordievader | In the sddm log there is an authentication failure. | 12:09 |
| Riddell | ok so it's all perfect until the final step | 12:11 |
| Riddell | lordievader: did you have to install oem-config at any time? | 12:11 |
| lordievader | No. Didn't install anything manually. | 12:11 |
| Riddell | lordievader: what's in /etc/sddm.something ? | 12:11 |
| Riddell | groovy so the oem-config not installed bug fixed itself | 12:11 |
| soee | spooky | 12:12 |
| lordievader | Ah, that shows and autologin for user oem... | 12:12 |
| Riddell | lordievader: remove that and restart sddm? | 12:12 |
| lordievader | Guess the oem-config forgot to update that file. | 12:12 |
| soee | do you gusy noticed tahat app response in 5.3.beta is much better ? | 12:12 |
| Riddell | silly oem-config | 12:12 |
| lordievader | Jup, after deleting the file SDDM starts fine. | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | so yes, snappier | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | soee,^ | 12:14 |
| lordievader | Shall I file a bug against oem-config? | 12:14 |
| Riddell | lordievader: file a bug on ubiquity for that then please and let me know the number | 12:14 |
| Riddell | oem-config doesn't really exist, it's just ubiquity in disguise :) | 12:14 |
| lordievader | Check. | 12:14 |
| yofel | lordievader: stopping akonadi is 'akonadictl stop' | 12:20 |
| yofel | then delete .local/share/akonadi | 12:20 |
| lordievader | Riddell: Bug 1447144 | 12:24 |
| ubottu | bug 1447144 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config forgets to update /etc/sddm.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447144 | 12:24 |
| soee | mparillo: i dont see 5.3beta info here https://plus.google.com/communities/108139456908538054874 | 12:33 |
| Riddell | soee: it's on https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts I guess you can share it from there into the community? | 12:34 |
| Riddell | g+ is so confusing | 12:34 |
| Riddell | hopefully they'll shut it down soon | 12:35 |
| lordievader | yofel: I can't install mysql-server-core-5.5, it errors with kdepim-runtime requiring akonadi-server >= 1.8. Apt probably tries to downgrade Akonadi. | 12:35 |
| soee | Riddell: done | 12:37 |
| yofel | hm... I might have removed 5.5 from the allowed version list... | 12:37 |
| yofel | lordievader: I fear that really leaves a dist-upgrade as the most reasonable way to test thist | 12:40 |
| lordievader | Suppose so. | 12:41 |
| mparillo | Actually, I prefer what I seem to see on G+ to Facebook. That said, I posted to everybody, and after I did that, I did not see an option to share it to the community, as it was already shared to everybody. | 12:41 |
| mparillo | Marcin Sągol seemed to share it to the community. | 12:42 |
| Riddell | images are rebuilding! | 12:45 |
| lordievader | Ahhh.... | 12:48 |
| tuv0k | testers needed for final 15.04 candidate images and upgrades, join us in #kubuntu-devel to help out | 12:55 |
| tuv0k | how can I test? | 12:56 |
| Riddell | tuv0k: images are rebuilding, they should arrive soon and notification will be on this channel and here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds | 12:56 |
| tuv0k | I'm already running 15.04 last update this morning | 12:56 |
| Riddell | needs a reinstall to test the install :) | 12:56 |
| tuv0k | format the drive or can I keep /home? | 12:57 |
| Riddell | yes, if you install over the partition without formatting it'll remove /usr and /etc et al but keep /home and others | 12:57 |
| tuv0k | cool | 12:57 |
| mparillo | My 14.10 -> 15.04 upgrade was successful, so I have removed the section on updating 14.10 from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu | 12:58 |
| Darkwing | Well, 15.04 hidpi is looking better | 13:13 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Hola me lovelies | 13:14 |
| Sick_Rimmit | I have a spanish friend who wants to know how to use Spanish characters in Ubuntu | 13:14 |
| Sick_Rimmit | Is that done these days with the Input Switcher | 13:14 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, so the daily i just burned is already obsolete? | 13:14 |
| lordievader | Ah new images. | 13:15 |
| BluesKaj | yup, think the one I used is 20150421 | 13:15 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: zsync down the new one | 13:17 |
| Riddell | hi hateball | 13:18 |
| Riddell | hateball: download new iso images and install it so tick the boxes on iso.qa.ubuntu.com | 13:18 |
| Darkwing | Scaling is still rough but, better than most | 13:20 |
| Riddell | scaling? | 13:20 |
| Riddell | high dpi? | 13:20 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, never used zsync before , zsync url to imagefile patrh ? | 13:21 |
| Darkwing | Yeah | 13:21 |
| hateball | Riddell: Alright! | 13:21 |
| Darkwing | I've been bouncing around trying go find the best solution. | 13:21 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: zsync url here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds/92413/downloads | 13:22 |
| Riddell | run zsync <url> and it'll sync into the file in the current directory | 13:22 |
| hateball | Riddell: I was thinking if there was something related to testing certain apps or something, nothing like that? | 13:22 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: lots of improvements in that but mostly missed in plasma 5.2, install plasma 5.3 may help, it also need lots of app changes which d_ed is working on | 13:22 |
| Riddell | hateball: we need kontact tested on upgrade | 13:23 |
| hateball | Riddell: Right, so it's purely KDE stuff, and not things like this (which is what I have encountered) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344879 ? | 13:24 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 344879 in general "memory leak in plasmashell - huge ram usage" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 13:24 |
| Darkwing | Riddell: the freaky thing is how bad in general support is. | 13:24 |
| Darkwing | Gnome and gtk based systems handled it lazily | 13:29 |
| Darkwing | Just doubled the scale. So, for a non macbook it was way too big or way too small | 13:29 |
| Darkwing | Actually most did that, or ignored it | 13:30 |
| Darkwing | Unity got it closest. The scaling slider was in much smaller increments | 13:30 |
| Darkwing | But, I couldn't handle Unity any longer. | 13:31 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, brilliant, -o to the existing image too 2mins instead of 25 for a whole newone | 13:33 |
| BluesKaj | took | 13:33 |
| d_ed | Darkwing: open the fonts KCM, change "force fonts DPI" | 13:34 |
| d_ed | that's basically the sliding scale unity has | 13:34 |
| d_ed | GTK has the same, but under a property called TextScaling | 13:34 |
| d_ed | this both is completely separate to the pixmap doubling, yet at the same time also very related | 13:35 |
| Darkwing | d_ed I figured that out. | 13:36 |
| Darkwing | Its nice | 13:36 |
| d_ed | Darkwing: want to see the new config that will be there in 3 months? | 13:40 |
| Riddell | d_ed: ooh ooh yes :) | 13:40 |
| Darkwing | Yes please? :D | 13:40 |
| BluesKaj | ok, here goes , gonna install the latest image to my other hdd, bbl | 13:41 |
| Darkwing | Damn, quassel system is awesome. | 13:42 |
| Darkwing | quasseldroid is so helpful | 13:43 |
| tuv0k | its nice | 13:43 |
| Riddell | bah, you can't get better than ssh on your phone into a screen session | 13:44 |
| Darkwing | Lol I'm fond of guis | 13:44 |
| d_ed | here you are: http://imgur.com/PcUnkDm | 13:44 |
| Riddell | needing to type control-a 2 in a phone is just the ultimate security against people using it when your back it turned | 13:44 |
| d_ed | only problem I'm stuck on is working how to gracefully ram this into the kscreen UI | 13:45 |
| Darkwing | Screen doesn't notify my pebble | 13:45 |
| Darkwing | d_ed why not run it in the display area? | 13:46 |
| d_ed | it takes up too much space | 13:47 |
| Riddell | d_ed: separate kcm? | 13:48 |
| stoocot | Hi, I'm looking for information how to modify Breeze windows decorations under Plasma 5. I want to change size and color of the window border. Does anyone know how to do it? Settings present in the control panel are not sufficient for me. | 13:48 |
| Riddell | stoocot: user support best in #kde and #kubuntu (cos I've no idea) | 13:51 |
| stoocot | Breeze is almost perfect but with apps filling windows with their own background has two problems: | 13:52 |
| stoocot | with no-border setting windows dialog box has no visible difference to the background window | 13:53 |
| stoocot | with small border, dialog has 3-4 points wide, ugly white frame | 13:54 |
| Darkwing | Only thing I want to do is move the buttons to the left. | 13:55 |
| rdieter | stoocot: the size is modifiable, but not color (afaict) | 13:55 |
| Riddell | the people who make it are visual design who are nice and responsive on forums.kde.org | 13:56 |
| rdieter | oyxgen suffered the same issue (of borders not being distinguishable, but that may be feature rather than a bug) | 13:56 |
| stoocot | Plastic decoration is better readable but it crashes kwin on opengl application closing... | 13:57 |
| Riddell | hum, well I installed 14.10 and added an e-mail accounts and it won't even show the e-mail in kontact :( | 14:02 |
| Riddell | let's see if an upgrade helps | 14:02 |
| Riddell | ah, pressing the next button helps | 14:04 |
| Riddell | ok upgrading now | 14:04 |
| micmord | Riddell: testing a fresh install of the 92413 x86_64 iso on VirtualBox of my notebook I got problem (I/O error dev sr0) on final reboot, that after installation. I only have a screenshot. | 14:07 |
| Riddell | micmord: that's a known issue, it works fine if you turn the machine off and on again? | 14:07 |
| * Riddell feels like the IT Crowd support team | 14:07 | |
| micmord | Riddell: I'll try | 14:08 |
| sitter | Riddell: random question: how much work was 5.3beta? | 14:09 |
| genii | Heh, "Have you tried turning off and back on again?" | 14:10 |
| Riddell | sitter: 1 symbol update and a couple of working out where the git repo was | 14:11 |
| Riddell | otherwise all good | 14:11 |
| sitter | ohhhhh | 14:11 |
| sitter | Riddell: where was the symbol | 14:11 |
| Riddell | sitter: I forget I'm afraid, I can look it up once the upgrade is done | 14:14 |
| Riddell | pmc is moaning about no mockcpp | 14:14 |
| Riddell | and plasma-desktop about no packagekit of course | 14:14 |
| Riddell | which we can actually fix easily I think | 14:14 |
| Riddell | I had to add the about-data transitional to kinfocenter | 14:15 |
| Riddell | and ksysguard needed a recompile cos it was using the old libksysguard, I guess the scripts need sorted to fix that build-dep version | 14:15 |
| sitter | :O | 14:16 |
| sitter | I think I had the transition for that in place | 14:16 |
| * sitter takes a looky | 14:16 | |
| micmord | Riddell: forcing a reboot all works smoothly. Well done guys | 14:16 |
| sitter | Riddell: the script should have an extensive meeting with the bin | 14:16 |
| Riddell | micmord: thanks for testing, do mark it on iso.qa.ubuntu.com | 14:16 |
| sitter | redo using all the CI libraries because they do everything already | 14:16 |
| sitter | like override missing cmake deps in a way that doesn't suck balls | 14:17 |
| Riddell | sitter: I'll look forward to that :) | 14:17 |
| Riddell | I think sgclark is having more problems with applications | 14:17 |
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| sitter | ah a transitional package | 14:17 |
| Riddell | removed crash tracker (on qa.kubuntu.co.uk now) and removed plasma 5.3 backages | 14:18 |
| sitter | Riddell: why did about-distro need a transitional package though? | 14:18 |
| Riddell | sitter: to keep kubuntu-desktop metapackage happy for vivid upgrades | 14:18 |
| sitter | ah, kubuntu-desktop | 14:18 |
| * sitter takes a note to add transitionals in the future | 14:18 | |
| sitter | actually it's interesting because I think the CI ISO explicitly seeds kubuntu-desktops so its odd that it worked there | 14:19 |
| Riddell | it's a recommends I guess | 14:20 |
| sitter | yeah | 14:20 |
| sitter | ah well | 14:20 |
| Riddell | so it must be muon that had the symbol change, that's the only other one with a ~ppa2 | 14:20 |
| Riddell | or maybe bluez-qt | 14:20 |
| * sitter actually needs to write tech to stop things from building on certain series as to unblock installation tests :/ | 14:20 | |
| sitter | Riddell: I take it you didn't branch by date? | 14:21 |
| Riddell | sitter: no, I just branched from kubuntu_stable | 14:21 |
| sitter | bluez-qt had udev added by you | 14:22 |
| sitter | muon had a new mo | 14:22 |
| Riddell | hmm, maybe I just imagined the symbol update | 14:22 |
| sitter | anyway, whatever the symbol thing was I presume itw as because you simply branched kubuntu_stable so it's this long standing problem that the CI branch might already be ahead of the tarball | 14:23 |
| sitter | would either be solved by the merge tool I have half finished somewhere or CI orchestretrated release building | 14:23 |
| sitter | whatever happens first I guess | 14:23 |
| sitter | also releasme needs to be used to get rid of the arbitrary .mo changes :S | 14:23 |
| sitter | soooooooooo much work | 14:23 |
| Riddell | releaseme used how? | 14:23 |
| sitter | to create the tarballs for CI | 14:24 |
| sitter | so we have l10n | 14:24 |
| sitter | which actually will probably need some fiddling in releasme because kde-apps do not put the translations in the app tarballs for some reason | 14:25 |
| Riddell | kde-apps doesn't use releaseme | 14:25 |
| sitter | Riddell: kde-applications | 14:26 |
| sitter | ah well yes | 14:26 |
| sitter | that is my point :P | 14:26 |
| sitter | it is different precisely because it isn't using releaseme | 14:26 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I am having probelms with timing. Ben wants to go live yesterday and everything green. This is taking everything I have. I am so sorry, I am trying to get back to apps when I can. | 14:41 |
| Riddell | sgclark: don't appologise! the ci stuff is your priority right now :) | 14:42 |
| sgclark | ty | 14:43 |
| mitya57 | Riddell: oh, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.core/86778 became quite a long-ish thread. Will read it in the evening :) | 14:47 |
| Riddell | yofel: kontact works good after an upgrade from 14.10, tested e-mail, contacts, to do and calendar | 14:49 |
| yofel | hm yeah, I'm not sure how to reproduce this. Maybe by doing the upgrade, SIGKILL-ing mysqld and seeing what happens | 14:51 |
| yofel | seems to be a weird corner case that happens if mysql 5.5 isn't cleanly shut down, upgraded to 5.6 (without running mysql_upgrade?) and ends up triggering a crash in innodb's error recovery | 14:51 |
| Riddell | :( | 14:54 |
| sgclark | oh yeah my kontact is busted | 14:57 |
| yofel | define busted.. | 14:57 |
| sgclark | akonadi is not operational | 14:58 |
| yofel | *SIGH* | 14:58 |
| Darkwing | Just installed the daily image for today, what needs to be tested? | 14:58 |
| Darkwing | Hey yofel, long time mate | 14:58 |
| yofel | hey Darkwing :) | 14:58 |
| yofel | sgclark: what's in your ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err ? | 14:58 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: add it to iso.qa.ubuntu.com please | 15:00 |
| Darkwing | Kk | 15:00 |
| sgclark | yofel: paste.ubuntu.com/10866478 | 15:00 |
| yofel | sgclark: rm ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ib_logfile* | 15:01 |
| yofel | then try 'akonadictl start' | 15:01 |
| yofel | bug 1437846 | 15:01 |
| ubottu | bug 1437846 in mysql-5.6 (Ubuntu) "akonadi mysql 5.6 crash with signal 11" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437846 | 15:01 |
| sgclark | yofel: that worked :) thanks! | 15:03 |
| Riddell | rdieter: fedora beta looking good but the langauge selection tool likes to freeze lots | 15:11 |
| rdieter | Riddell: thanks, I'll pass iton | 15:11 |
| Riddell | rdieter: it worked it was just being very slow | 15:14 |
| Riddell | now what's the secret to not having konsole crash on close?! | 15:14 |
| rdieter | ok, I suspect it's UI for installing stuff in the background? | 15:14 |
| yofel | it crashes? ^^ | 15:15 |
| rdieter | Riddell: good question, never seen that before | 15:15 |
| Riddell | rdieter: it seems to be using packagekit to install the language bits | 15:15 |
| Riddell | yofel: doesn't it for you? just run it and close it and it crashes for me | 15:15 |
| yofel | nope | 15:15 |
| rdieter | in fairness, I don't use konsole much anymore (I live in yakuake most of the time) | 15:16 |
| yofel | I rarlely use it though as I'm mostly in yakuake | 15:16 |
| yofel | hehe | 15:16 |
| * rdieter high-fives yofel | 15:16 | |
| shadeslayer | I don't think many people use konsole directly :P | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | yakuake ftw | 15:17 |
| Riddell | I'm yet to understand the attration of yakuake, maybe it's intended for people who don't do e-mail and irc through a terminal | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | ah you need them windows | 15:17 |
| yofel | how does yakuake get in the way there? byobu does for me often with the keybindings, but yakuake is a non-issue | 15:18 |
| Darkwing | Riddell, that's it for me. | 15:19 |
| yofel | although even mutt works fine in byobu | 15:19 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: what what? | 15:20 |
| Darkwing | I don't do as much in konsole | 15:21 |
| Darkwing | git and other stuff that way but, irc and email are full gui | 15:21 |
| * lordievader allways has atleast one Konsole window open. | 15:22 | |
| Riddell | bah, qgit for the win :) | 15:22 |
| Riddell | Darkwing: muon-discover working for you? | 15:44 |
| Darkwing | Have not checked it yet. | 15:44 |
| Darkwing | Will do in a bit, making a bottle for the little one. | 15:44 |
| Riddell | mparillo: you updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu ? will you update the invoke the tool to be the notification same as on UtopicUpgrades? | 15:45 |
| Riddell | lordievader: I don't get your autologin bug, oem install works pretty well for me | 15:46 |
| mparillo | Riddell: Yes, I updated the Upgrade help page to remove the update 14.10 step, as I tested without it and it worked. I am not sure I understand your second question. | 15:47 |
| lordievader | That's odd. I did get it with the new images... | 15:48 |
| lordievader | Perhaps it is related to kvm/qemu? | 15:48 |
| Riddell | mparillo: the alf-f2 section needs replaced with section 6 from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu | 15:48 |
| Riddell | alt-f2 | 15:49 |
| BluesKaj | ok , on the latest daily ...a few crashes with system settings, but no freeezes so far...bbbiab | 15:57 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: please report to iso.qa | 16:03 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | Applications 15.04 Status http://goo.gl/JnVN6h | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | ||
| Riddell | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ updated with better links for Vivid and Wobbly bugs | 16:16 |
| Riddell | vivid now includes vivid-updates milestones | 16:16 |
| Riddell | vivid now includes vivid-updates milestone and tagged kubuntu | 16:16 |
| Riddell | Wobbly now includes 15.10 milestone tagged kubuntu | 16:16 |
| yofel | wobbly? | 16:17 |
| Riddell | the codename I just made up :) | 16:18 |
| yofel | heh | 16:18 |
| mparillo | The alt-f2 was the way I tested (and got screenshots). I see the section on the Utopic upgrade. But it looks as if the changes start in section 4? | 16:21 |
| Riddell | mparillo: yes alt-f2 and running kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade is what you have to do before a release, after release time the notification will work so the instructions need to change | 16:22 |
| Riddell | mparillo: section 4 and 5 are only relevant for an upgrade from LTS such as 14.04, we're doing an upgrade from normal 14.10 | 16:23 |
| Riddell | so just copy the bits from section 6 | 16:23 |
| Riddell | mparillo: you're on a testing roll :) | 17:43 |
| mparillo | TY. I took a break to update the upgrade page. Now I will create a new 14.10 VM to test that the upgrade works by following the directions. | 17:49 |
| Riddell | mparillo: remember to test the notification | 17:50 |
| Riddell | mparillo: edit /etc/hosts add "212.13.202.11 changelogs.ubuntu.com" | 17:50 |
| mparillo | Of course now the Baloo File error refuses to pop=up in today's testing. But I did get migrating the empty kwallet, which I did not notice yesterday. | 17:51 |
| Riddell | it's weird that one | 17:51 |
| mparillo | So I need to add that line and wait to see if the notification pops up? | 17:51 |
| Riddell | add it and open Muon Update Thing | 17:51 |
| mparillo | OK. Signing of this VM to create a new 14.10 one. | 17:52 |
| Riddell | meh the kubuntu.org accouncement leaked onto the rss feed, if anyone asks if it's out, it's not | 17:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: most likely the new site won't be up for the release | 17:59 |
| ovidiu-florin | the sysadmins said | 17:59 |
| Riddell | ok, here's the announce on the current site https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04 | 18:03 |
| Riddell | please take a look, let me know if you need access | 18:03 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: I'm linking to https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation#Preparing_the_installation_media even though it's incomplete, it's probably the best we have | 18:05 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: the title still says beta 2 | 18:21 |
| Riddell | how's this? https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu-new2 | 18:27 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: the announcement page: the last line, close the parenhesis | 18:30 |
| mparillo | I added 212.13.202.11 changelogs.ubuntu.com at the end of /etc/hosts, but i only get "regular" software updates. | 18:31 |
| ahoneybun | on the release notes Riddell? | 18:31 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: announce up at https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04 | 18:50 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: feel free to make edits, check with me and mparillo first | 18:50 |
| Riddell | mparillo: wipe the cache in ~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release | 18:51 |
| * ahoneybun believes he does not have access | 18:51 | |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: also check over https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu-new2 | 18:51 |
| soee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10867439/ | 18:51 |
| Riddell | and comment on http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/15.04.png | 18:51 |
| soee | W: Operation was interrupted before it could finish oO | 18:53 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: use konqueror | 18:53 |
| Riddell | http://www.itworld.com/article/2913377/linux/ubuntu-15-04-will-ship-with-canonicals-own-browser.html?page=2 "Kubuntu versus Ubuntu" "plasma 5 really caught my eye. To me it's the sexiest distro around" | 18:55 |
| Riddell | mparillo: may be worth a wire post if you can make it not flame-bait | 18:55 |
| genii | Heh | 18:55 |
| Riddell | or just this directly http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/337mzx/why_ill_be_switching_to_kubuntufrom_ubuntu_come/ | 18:57 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: mparillo I'm going to fix some grammer | 18:57 |
| Riddell | go for it | 18:57 |
| ahoneybun | Riddell: I thought the nvidia-prime bug was fixe | 18:58 |
| ahoneybun | *fixed | 18:58 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: where? | 18:59 |
| ahoneybun | (1428328) nvidia-prime needs sddm support | 18:59 |
| ahoneybun | remove? | 18:59 |
| Riddell | ahoneybun: oh yes, please remove that | 18:59 |
| Etriaph | Planet KDE tweeted the URL: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter | 18:59 |
| ahoneybun | got it | 18:59 |
| Etriaph | But it's inaccessible. | 18:59 |
| Riddell | Etriaph: yeah my mistake sorry | 18:59 |
| Etriaph | Just a heads up. | 18:59 |
| Riddell | nothing I can do about it, there's some cache somewhere, it'll disappear at some point | 19:00 |
| Etriaph | No need to apologize, just wanted to let you guys know. | 19:00 |
| ahoneybun | We would like to thanks the whole of KDE's Plasma team for a beautiful new desktop. = We would like to thank the whole KDE Plasma team for a beautiful new desktop Riddell | 19:01 |
| ahoneybun | going to change that | 19:01 |
| Riddell | thanks | 19:01 |
| * Riddell head broken, going home, will log on later | 19:01 | |
| * ahoneybun saves changes | 19:02 | |
| * ahoneybun logs out | 19:02 | |
| ahoneybun | since that banner was made I'm guessing we are going to still be on the old site? | 19:06 |
| soee | hmm still rightclick on desktop wont work for me | 19:08 |
| yofel | WFM | 19:08 |
| vip | soee: who needs rmb on desktop | 19:09 |
| soee | also: [21:08] <soee> it is 5.3 feature that show desktop corner bind hides also panel ? | 19:09 |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| soee | vip: me :) | 19:09 |
| yofel | good question, I did see that but forgot about it.. | 19:09 |
| vip | also as not working meta+shift, or, previously working "windows can cover" toolbar | 19:09 |
| soee | can you test one more thing: right click on window decoration, More Actions -> Special Application Settings ... leads to kdeinit5 crash | 19:10 |
| vip | soee: "Dodatkowe ustawienia programu"? | 19:11 |
| vip | works for me | 19:11 |
| soee | oO | 19:11 |
| vip | soee: btw, which version you ask me to test? :) | 19:12 |
| soee | vip: Vivid + Plasma 5.3beta | 19:12 |
| vip | soee: ah so | 19:12 |
| vip | vivid only, here | 19:13 |
| soee | yofel: can you check | 19:13 |
| soee | ? | 19:13 |
| yofel | in ~2min | 19:13 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: which banner? | 19:14 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: [14:51] <Riddell> and comment on http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/15.04.png | 19:14 |
| ahoneybun | its the size of the old site | 19:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | yes | 19:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | the sysadmins most likely won't get the new site up by release | 19:15 |
| ovidiu-florin | bu we can't update our testbed site eighter | 19:15 |
| yofel | soee: yep, kdeinit5 SEGV | 19:16 |
| soee | ;( | 19:16 |
| ahoneybun | eighter? | 19:17 |
| ahoneybun | either? | 19:17 |
| ovidiu-florin | no g | 19:17 |
| soee | yofel: shall we report it somewhere ? | 19:18 |
| yofel | soee: if you can yes | 19:19 |
| * yofel wonders why drkonqi says: "You cannot report this error, because kdeinit5 does not provide a bug reporting address." @_@ | 19:20 | |
| yofel | Riddell: ^ ? | 19:20 |
| Riddell | yofel: upstream bug? | 19:27 |
| yofel | in drkonqi? | 19:27 |
| Riddell | I guess so, presumably you don't want to reporton kdeinit5 and drkonqi should be smart enough for that | 19:28 |
| soee | yofel: teh bug shoudl go here https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=kdelibs&format=guided ? | 19:29 |
| soee | component kdeinit ? | 19:29 |
| yofel | not sure, there's XCB, kf5windowsystem and kwin in that, so one of them? | 19:30 |
| === tazz_ is now known as tazz | ||
| mparillo | removing ~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release got me the "A new version of Kubuntu is available" in Muon Update Manager. I click on it, give it my password, but nothing happens. | 19:53 |
| Riddell | um,ug | 19:55 |
| Riddell | no update manager popping up? | 19:55 |
| Riddell | run kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade then | 19:56 |
| lucas_ | ok | 20:16 |
| lordievader | o/ | 20:16 |
| lucas_ | as you may know I was planing to do some promo video | 20:16 |
| lucas_ | and i made one | 20:16 |
| Riddell | hi lucas_! | 20:17 |
| Riddell | ooh | 20:17 |
| === rudydog is now known as monkeyjuice | ||
| lordievader | Whoop whoop | 20:17 |
| lucas_ | i am uploading it to you tube | 20:17 |
| Riddell | awooga | 20:17 |
| lucas_ | so you can watch and comment | 20:17 |
| lucas_ | an we can eventually improve something | 20:18 |
| lucas_ | 5 minutes remaning | 20:20 |
| lucas_ | my internet connection sucks ;p | 20:21 |
| shadeslayer | join the club | 20:25 |
| lucas_ | http://youtu.be/JkoGMb8N78M | 20:28 |
| lucas_ | ok please comment ;) | 20:28 |
| Riddell | " | 20:29 |
| Riddell | This video is private" | 20:29 |
| Riddell | lucas_: ↑ | 20:30 |
| lucas_ | moment | 20:30 |
| lucas_ | https://youtu.be/JkoGMb8N78M | 20:31 |
| lucas_ | is it ok now? | 20:31 |
| lordievader | Still private here. | 20:32 |
| ovidiu-florin | when exactly will the release happen? | 20:32 |
| Riddell | lucas_: still private | 20:32 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: when all the flavours declare themselves ready | 20:32 |
| Riddell | we usually aim for midday utc but it's often later | 20:33 |
| lucas_ | https://youtu.be/JkoGMb8N78M | 20:33 |
| lucas_ | now it is public | 20:33 |
| Riddell | lucas_: yay | 20:33 |
| lucas_ | for sure | 20:33 |
| ovidiu-florin | sound sounds broken | 20:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | is it my computer? | 20:34 |
| lucas_ | well here is ok | 20:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok | 20:34 |
| Riddell | lucas_: that rocks :) | 20:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | is the beginning of the sound in slow motion? | 20:35 |
| lucas_ | it is fade in | 20:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | aha | 20:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | then my ears are broken | 20:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | :P | 20:35 |
| Riddell | lucas_, ovidiu-florin: yep music sounds off key, maybe remove that effect? | 20:35 |
| Riddell | lucas_: I'd rather the default wallpaper was used | 20:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | lucas_: also, the text is sliding too fast | 20:36 |
| Riddell | lucas_: what's the font used? oxygen or ubuntu font better | 20:36 |
| KDDA | the sound seems to be like really slow at the beginning | 20:36 |
| lucas_ | oxygen | 20:36 |
| ovidiu-florin | also some shaddow to the white text wouldn't hurt | 20:36 |
| lordievader | lucas_: Isn't it a good idea to have the text slide from right to left? Now you see the last words first. | 20:37 |
| Riddell | good point lordievader | 20:37 |
| mparillo | lucas_: Wonderful work. A nice break from Stampy Longnose (the current YouTube favorite around here). | 20:37 |
| lucas_ | ok now problem | 20:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | at 0:10 the text effect is the one you should use at 0:34 and 0:45 and 0:58 | 20:38 |
| lucas_ | text will be sliding from right to left now | 20:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | also the www from the link at the end is not mandatory, but you can leave it | 20:38 |
| Riddell | but aye, that's excellent as it is | 20:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | uuuu, ad a caption to it | 20:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | that floating box that you can click on | 20:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | at the end | 20:39 |
| lordievader | Jup, it is rather nice :D | 20:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | and point it to the Kubuntu download page | 20:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | lucas_: it's awesome | 20:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | maybe take notes of our sugestions for future videos | 20:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | :D | 20:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | you got my like | 20:40 |
| lordievader | +1 | 20:40 |
| lucas_ | sorry for the delay well english is not my native language so yuo know | 20:41 |
| Riddell | hablo solo espanol | 20:41 |
| lucas_ | as for your suggestions I will try to incorporate them | 20:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | lucas_: vorbești românește? | 20:42 |
| lucas_ | nope | 20:42 |
| lucas_ | polish ;p | 20:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | lucas_: falo en portuges? | 20:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | parle vous fancais? | 20:43 |
| * ovidiu-florin doesn't have the french keyboard layout | 20:43 | |
| Riddell | gin dobry, as my flatmates used to say | 20:43 |
| ovidiu-florin | how can I find what version of Qtquick I have installed? | 20:43 |
| lucas_ | ok so things to improve text make it gray, and use different effect, something else? | 20:44 |
| lucas_ | ah music | 20:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | don't make it gray | 20:44 |
| lucas_ | on the begining | 20:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | it's awesome white | 20:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | just add a shaddow | 20:44 |
| Riddell | lucas_: no effect on music, use default Next wallpaper | 20:44 |
| lucas_ | ah about wallpaper | 20:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | and use the effect from 0:10 | 20:45 |
| lucas_ | this is not possible I fear | 20:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: how can I find what version of Qtquick I have installed? | 20:45 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: apt-cache policy libqt5declarative5 | 20:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | that's qt | 20:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | not QtQuick | 20:46 |
| Riddell | it's qtquick | 20:46 |
| Riddell | which is part of qt | 20:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | so use: import QtQuick 2.3 | 20:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | QML is still a big mess in my head | 20:47 |
| lucas_ | Riddell: I choose this wallpaper because the default one was well ugly, and this green is was also used here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2dthDSGkc ( this is official video from the Plasma 5.0) | 20:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | I don't think using the default wallpaper is mandatory | 20:49 |
| Riddell | it's not mandatory but it's good to keep consistent for branding | 20:50 |
| Riddell | and it's a thing of beauty! | 20:50 |
| lucas_ | this green is a part of default plasma packages | 20:50 |
| Riddell | I know | 20:50 |
| lucas_ | and the default wallpaper from plasma 5.2 was replaced in 5.3 | 20:51 |
| lucas_ | whereas it should stay at least to plasma 5.4 | 20:51 |
| lucas_ | as far as I remember default wallpaper is changed after two major releases | 20:53 |
| lucas_ | and well you really do not want comments about default wallpaper ( ugly etc) | 20:54 |
| Riddell | shrug, as you wish :) | 20:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | open the add new widget from the panel settings | 20:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | type something in the search box | 20:56 |
| lucas_ | but the main reason is that I would need to record all the material once again | 20:56 |
| ovidiu-florin | can you? I can't | 20:56 |
| * ovidiu-florin ZZZZZZzzzzzz....... | 20:58 | |
| soee | ovidiu-florin: i can in 5.3 | 20:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | I have 5.2.2 | 20:59 |
| Riddell | lucas_: fair enough :) | 20:59 |
| ovidiu-florin | what do I do if the author of a plasmoid does not reply? | 21:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | I can fork it wright? | 21:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | right*.... | 21:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | my spelling is off today | 21:02 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: depends on the situation, where is it now? | 21:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | where is what? | 21:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | the plasmoid is here: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?action=content&content=152082 | 21:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | but is broken in Qt5 land | 21:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've partially fixed it in my install | 21:04 |
| Riddell | "Updated: Jul 5 2012" yeah I think you can fork that :) | 21:06 |
| Riddell | just e-mail the author to let them know | 21:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | Thanks | 21:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm off to bed | 21:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | Good night | 21:07 |
| Riddell | night ovidiu-florin | 21:07 |
| Riddell | sweet dreams | 21:07 |
| Riddell | hi frecel, excited about the release? | 21:19 |
| * KDDA dances | 21:24 | |
| KDDA | Im so excited, I just cant hide it | 21:24 |
| Riddell | whee! | 21:24 |
| soee | KDDA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDRke6Gu3nM | 21:25 |
| soee | ah no, it was it https://vimeo.com/40987079 | 21:25 |
| KDDA | LOL | 21:26 |
| lucas_ | ok gonna uploading improved video | 22:05 |
| Riddell | lucas_++ | 22:11 |
| * shadeslayer is so tired | 22:11 | |
| frecel | Riddell: you know it | 22:16 |
| lucas_ | Riddell: almost there | 22:19 |
| lucas_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cinHeN9YLLo&feature=youtu.be | 22:23 |
| Riddell | ooh! | 22:26 |
| lucas_ | something wrong? | 22:26 |
| Riddell | lucas_: genius :) | 22:27 |
| Riddell | nope it's perfect, I'm just excited :) | 22:27 |
| lucas_ | glad you like it ;) | 22:29 |
| lucas_ | just curious, are you going to post this video on your website or something ;p? | 22:30 |
| Riddell | lucas_: on the announcement if I can work out how | 22:31 |
| Riddell | oh yes it works :) | 22:32 |
| lucas_ | ^^ | 22:33 |
| Riddell | for those with access https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04 | 22:33 |
| Riddell | muchas gracias lucas_, that's awesome | 22:33 |
| valorie | lol, sgclark: https://plus.google.com/+BenLandin/posts/PgFmAFSNHKS | 22:34 |
| valorie | our own release party this weekend! | 22:34 |
| * sgclark looks | 22:34 | |
| sgclark | :) | 22:35 |
| Riddell | party party party | 22:35 |
| lucas_ | Riddell: no problem | 22:36 |
| lucas_ | ok time to go for me so, see you later | 22:42 |
| Riddell | thanks much lucas_,sleep well | 22:42 |
| Riddell | the world will party for kubuntu tomorrow | 22:42 |
| lucas_ | hehe ;) | 22:43 |
| frecel | valorie: If you bump into Ben at LFNW tell him that frecel is saying hi | 22:45 |
| valorie | which Ben is that? | 22:46 |
| valorie | frecel? | 22:46 |
| valorie | I "bump into" almost everybody at the KDE/Ubuntu table | 22:46 |
| frecel | Ben Landin, the guy whos g+ post you linked | 22:46 |
| valorie | or rather, they bump into us | 22:47 |
| frecel | valorie: well in that case you can tell everyone that frecel is saying hi :D | 22:54 |
| valorie | lol | 22:55 |
| sgclark | valorie: what is the weather like up there? | 23:05 |
| * ahoneybun has a tech night out tomorrow and is going to bring Ubuntu stickers with him. | 23:25 | |
| valorie | sgclark: not warm (55F) but sunny | 23:45 |
| valorie | snowing fir pollen though | 23:45 |
| sgclark | ahh fun | 23:46 |
| sgclark | I am sure I will be one pile of sneezes lol | 23:46 |
| sgclark | ahh the new installer looks lovely | 23:51 |
| valorie | updating the poor lil netbook | 23:55 |
| valorie | it can at least write USB | 23:55 |
| valorie | and be used for checking out krita | 23:55 |
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