/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/#kubuntu-devel.txt

cyphermoxahoneybun: if you want to test dailies, make sure you look at iso.qa.ubuntu.com to see which image is up for testing, and mark it so we know you're testing something00:58
ahoneybuncyphermox: I have been01:21
ahoneybunmark?01:23
ahoneybunany ninjas around?01:34
ahoneybunlatest build work fine with manual partitioning01:45
valorieyou are marking that in the qa site, right?01:47
valorieI assume that is what cyphermox meant, ahoneybun01:47
ahoneybunno way to01:47
valoriewhat?01:48
valorieof course there is01:48
valoriewhat would be the point of a qa site with no way to report results?01:48
ahoneybunnow there is01:48
ahoneybunit keeps disappearing01:49
valoriestrange01:49
ahoneybununless there is a new image...01:49
valorienew image today; the final01:49
ahoneybundamn it01:49
ahoneybunI keep being late01:50
valorieabout 4 hours ago01:50
ahoneybun20150421.101:50
ahoneybunI have 2015042101:50
valorie[14:16] [Notice] -queuebot to #kubuntu-devel- [16:52:54] Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Vivid Final] has been updated (20150421.1)01:50
valorie[14:16] [Notice] -queuebot to #kubuntu-devel- [16:52:59] Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Vivid Final] has been updated (20150421.1)01:50
valorieheh01:50
* ahoneybun did not see that01:50
valorieyou can zsync it01:50
* ahoneybun clueless01:50
valorieshould only take a sec to update01:51
valorie!zsync01:51
ubottuUse zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage01:51
ahoneybunso I could see report my findings without reinstalling>01:51
ahoneybun?01:51
valorieyou'll have to update your iso01:52
valorieand reload that01:52
valorieor just upgrade01:52
valorieyou are testing in a vm?01:53
* ahoneybun has redownload, reinstalled 3-4 times and has one 1 report01:53
ahoneybunreal hardware01:53
valoriejust update and full-upgrade01:53
valorieand you'll be golden01:54
ahoneybunand then report my findings?01:54
* ahoneybun wants to leave reports to help01:56
valorieyes of course02:14
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soeegood morning06:19
viphello07:51
soeehiho vip07:51
Riddell             ddddd08:16
Riddellsorry, fixing space bar :)08:16
soee:p08:18
Riddellso, 1 day to release08:18
Riddelltesting testing!08:18
Riddell!testers | ISOs!08:18
ubottuISOs!: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip for information08:18
Riddelljose: ovidiu-florin: how's the new website coming?08:21
ovidiu-florin<jose> the thing is already on the works08:21
ovidiu-florin<jose> I have already passed it on to them, they have the file already08:21
ovidiu-florin<jose> status, ask IS08:21
vipRiddell: only if I know the path to download .iso...08:21
Riddellvip: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds will have the links08:21
soee;)08:21
ovidiu-florinI don't know what IS is08:21
Riddellahoneybun: we're in release candidate period, we don't make dailies we just respin when we find problems with fixes08:22
Riddellovidiu-florin: it means sysadmins in some silly professonal language08:22
Riddellovidiu-florin: #canonical-sysadmin08:22
ovidiu-florinok08:22
ovidiu-florinthanks08:22
RiddellI started a 15.10 board because someone contected me about kphotoalbum https://trello.com/b/knlSk3FO/15-1009:00
Riddellcontacted09:00
sitterRiddell: needs admins assigned09:34
sitterhttps://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Trello09:34
yofelRiddell: the -dev packages are broken?09:39
yofeloh, right, someone dropped them in utopic....09:43
Riddellyofel: there's two people packaging kphotoalbum in ppas, I'll try and get them to come into kubuntu09:49
Riddellsitter: I added organisation people is that right?09:49
yofelwhat do they different from the archive packaging? add those -dev libs somehow?09:49
Riddellyes and a couple of patches to make the dev packages actually work for external apps09:50
Riddelldigikam is most annoying in its habit of having libraries which are sometimes but not always external09:50
Riddellreally the world should be just like qtwebengine and bundle everything :)09:51
Riddellmitya57: Mirv: have you guys seen that discussion on kde-core-devel?09:51
Riddellseems we aren't going to package it in ubuntu http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.core/8677809:52
Riddellright, plasma 5.3 backports should be ready now09:52
yofelwe already have that, it's called windows09:52
lordievaderGood morning.09:53
sitterRiddell: read the wiki page? you need to enable the organization to join and then add a couple and mark them admin09:54
lordievaderRiddell: Regarding bug 1445383 (the Akonadi bug), in todays image I can launch the KAddressBook without issues. Akonadi is also running quite a few processes.10:18
ubottubug 1445383 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "Akonadi server is broken after mysql update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144538310:18
lordievaderNot entirely sure how to test the bug further.10:18
Riddelllordievader: lovely, thanks10:18
lordievaderThis is a live-session by the by.10:18
RiddellI guess set up e-mail if you can but that's faffy10:18
lordievaderWith Gmail's Application passwords that is a bit annoying. Do you mind if I skip that?10:19
Riddellsure10:19
yofelI think to properly test that, you would have to set up akonadi with mysql 5.5, then update mysql to 5.6 and see what happens10:20
lordievaderyofel: I can do that when it's installed, sure.10:21
yofelas vivid only has 5.6, easyest way would probably be an utopic -> vivid upgrade10:21
* lordievader doesn't have Utopic available.10:22
lordievaderThe live-cd has 5.6 installed.10:22
yofelyou could probably add the utopic sources and switch mysql to 5.5 (after stopping akonadi and wiping the DB)10:23
RiddellI'll test the upgrade in a bit10:23
* Riddell publishes http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta10:27
Riddellmparillo: one for social media (not wire) http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta10:28
MirvRiddell: I've followed lisandro's talks on the topic on the #debian-qt-kde10:34
soeeRiddell: did you fixed the 2 issues (kubntu-desktop and ksysguard in 5.3 beta ) ?10:42
mparilloRiddell: Got it. 5.3 beta is already better for me on physical HW than 5.2, but a total mess in my VMware VM when I use open-vm-tools-desktop to enable maximizing my window. Of course, total mess is a bad bug report, so any tips on reporting it.10:42
yofelwhat happens?10:43
soeeonly these packages will be removed when upgrading to 5.3: libksgrd5 libksignalplotter5 libprocesscore5 libprocessui5 right ?10:45
mparilloThe panel stays in the middle of the screen, everything becomes blurry, and almost completely unresponsive. 10:45
kfunkwhat? 5.3 features energy consumption stats? cool :010:45
yofelkfunk: in kinfocenter?10:46
kfunkyeah10:46
yofelsweet, need to look at that later10:46
* kfunk gotta upgrade 10:46
kfunkyofel: https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.3/kinfocenter-energy.png10:46
kfunklooks fancy10:46
yofel\o/10:47
soeei like thi name: libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1 10:48
kfunkyofel: it even works!10:51
lordievaderRiddell: Regarding the other bug of yesterday (Libreoffice), the installer finished correctly even with the update checkbox checked.10:53
Riddelllordievader: which language?10:56
soeereboot10:56
Riddellsoee: yes but please test them by removing staging ppa and adding kubuntu-ppa/beta and checking you can install kubuntu-desktop and kinfocenter and plasma-mediacenter and ksysguard10:57
soeeback on 5.3beta11:01
lordievaderRiddell: English.11:02
mparilloTweeted, G+'d, and Facebooked. Are we close enough to test https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu omitting the apply 14.10 updates step.11:07
soeein 5.3beta konversation has some straneg icon oO11:08
mparillosoee: Like a megaphone?11:08
soeemparillo: yes11:08
lordievaderyofel: How do I stop akonadi and wipe the db?11:09
* ahoneybun is a admin :)11:09
mparilloIn default breeze, it is a colored megaphone on the application launcher, which makes it a closer match to the white megaphone in the black oval I get when I drag it down the the panel. On 5.2, it was a cartoon balloon with a hash inside on the application launcher.11:10
Riddelllordievader: I wonder if it's language specific11:10
Riddell!testers | please check non-english installs11:11
ubottuplease check non-english installs: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip for information11:11
lordievaderRiddell: I'll set it to Dutch next time.11:11
soeeill able to test after 20:00 cet :(11:12
Riddellmparillo: yes please update VividUpgrades page (using images from UtopicUpgrades is fine for the muon notifications) and remove the 14.10 updates as I'm pretty sure that's not needed (testing now) and do test the upgrade :)11:13
vipRiddell: works11:13
vipRiddell: 64bit iso11:13
Riddellvip: what does?11:13
vipRiddell: installed under virtualbox, works, language: polish11:13
Riddellvip: great11:14
lordievadervip: With the update checkbox checked?11:15
mparilloRiddell: OK, testing the upgrade from 14.10 now. Will remove the bit about upgrading first if it works.11:15
viplordievader: naarp, did next-next-next installation11:15
lordievaderHmm...11:15
viplordievader: I can test it again, no problem11:15
* lordievader wonders if the bug is triggered by non-english + update.11:15
lordievadervip: I'll test it too. But with a different language ;)11:16
Riddellyeah I guess it'll be something obscure as else we'd have noticed it, maybe dutch :)11:18
lordievaderHehe, probably ;)11:19
Riddellscary thing, update-manager has a cache so I thought update notifications were not working but they are if you remove the cache11:20
Riddellhmm gb.archive is 10 times faster than es.archive even in spain11:22
BluesKajHiyas all11:37
Riddellhi BluesKaj, comeing to help out the vivid testing party?11:37
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BluesKajRiddell, sure ...what's the chat name?11:38
Riddellumm, vivid testing party chat?11:39
soee;)11:39
BluesKajheh ok11:39
Riddellhttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds11:40
lordievaderRiddell: Dutch install with updates completed. No problems.11:41
Riddellgreat11:43
Riddelllordievader: and the apps are all in dutch?11:43
lordievaderHehe, haven't seen a Dutch Kubuntu in ages... ;)11:43
vipsame here11:43
Riddellook11:43
vipbut after installation, there are still 3 packages to update (as trayicon says)11:43
lordievaderThe only thing that I see is not in Dutch is the Driver Manger.11:44
lordievaderAll the rest seems Dutch.11:44
BluesKajhad a couple of crashes when exiting apps like konversation and kate, but immaterial since it didn'y happen during use11:46
Riddellthat's because driver manager is translated in launchpad where there are not as many translators11:46
Riddellwe've fixed that for Whimsy Wallnut11:46
lordievaderOehh, is that the codename for 15.10?11:46
BluesKajoh no 11:46
Riddelllordievader: it's the codename I just made up :)11:47
BluesKajWW somewthing 11:47
lordievaderRiddell: Hehe, did you submit it as a suggestion?11:47
BluesKajwacky wabbit11:47
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sitterRiddell: we don't have an official name yet do we?11:53
lordievaderHmm, X is broken after the oem-config...11:55
Riddellsitter: nope11:56
sittermost annoying11:57
Riddelllordievader: what's broken about it?11:57
lordievaderOr it is sddm.11:57
* Riddell is pretty resigned to saying oem wo't work on this release11:57
lordievaderWhen sddm is supposed to show I get a black screen.11:57
lordievaderDoes ssddm log somewhere?11:57
Riddell/var/log/sddm.log11:57
lordievaderIt shows some pam authentication failure. I didn't check any autologin stuff.11:59
lordievaderAh, X works. (If started manually anyways)12:01
tuv0khttp://picpaste.com/snapshot6-jJytQt1P.png12:01
BluesKajok , going to try the daily on my other HDD, the upgrade here from 14.10 was more successful then the daily plus upgrades from 2 weeks ago in terms of plasma 4 supported apps like dolphin integration into plasma 5 ...the "look" between the 2 installs was very different12:01
BluesKajthen=than12:02
lordievaderHmm starting sddm manually doesn't give any hint on what is wrong.12:03
lordievaderRiddell: No, can't pinpoint what is wrong with sddm. Should I file a bug or is it simply too bad?12:04
BluesKajdid you do systemctl enable sddm12:04
lordievaderBluesKaj: It starts that is not the problem.12:05
BluesKajok12:05
lordievaderRiddell: Oeh... would it be that it tries to automatically login as the oem user?12:05
Riddelllordievader: on the first reboot it should try to automatically login12:07
Riddelldunno if that works at all with sddm12:07
Riddellthen you set up your computer and run oem-config-prepare12:08
Riddelland on the next reboot it should start oem-cofig (ubiquity in oem mode) for the user who just bought the computer12:08
lordievaderRiddell: This is after running the oem-config.12:08
lordievaderAfter the first reboot the oem user log in just fine.12:09
Riddellthen you run  oem-config-prepare?12:09
lordievaderAfter issueing the oem-config-prepare and rebooting I get the wizard.12:09
lordievaderThen after that reboot. I get a black screen.12:09
lordievaderIn the sddm log there is an authentication failure.12:09
Riddellok so it's all perfect until the final step12:11
Riddelllordievader: did you have to install oem-config at any time?12:11
lordievaderNo. Didn't install anything manually.12:11
Riddelllordievader: what's in /etc/sddm.something ?12:11
Riddellgroovy so the oem-config not installed bug fixed itself12:11
soeespooky12:12
lordievaderAh, that shows and autologin for user oem...12:12
Riddelllordievader: remove that and restart sddm?12:12
lordievaderGuess the oem-config forgot to update that file.12:12
soeedo you gusy noticed tahat app response in 5.3.beta is much better ?12:12
Riddellsilly oem-config12:12
lordievaderJup, after deleting the file SDDM starts fine.12:13
BluesKajso yes, snappier12:14
BluesKajsoee,^12:14
lordievaderShall I file a bug against oem-config?12:14
Riddelllordievader: file a bug on ubiquity for that then please and let me know the number12:14
Riddelloem-config doesn't really exist, it's just ubiquity in disguise :)12:14
lordievaderCheck.12:14
yofellordievader: stopping akonadi is 'akonadictl stop'12:20
yofelthen delete .local/share/akonadi12:20
lordievaderRiddell: Bug 144714412:24
ubottubug 1447144 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config forgets to update /etc/sddm.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144714412:24
soeemparillo: i dont see 5.3beta info here https://plus.google.com/communities/10813945690853805487412:33
Riddellsoee: it's on https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts I guess you can share it from there into the community?12:34
Riddellg+ is so confusing12:34
Riddellhopefully they'll shut it down soon12:35
lordievaderyofel: I can't install mysql-server-core-5.5, it errors with kdepim-runtime requiring akonadi-server >= 1.8. Apt probably tries to downgrade Akonadi.12:35
soeeRiddell: done12:37
yofelhm... I might have removed 5.5 from the allowed version list...12:37
yofellordievader: I fear that really leaves a dist-upgrade as the most reasonable way to test thist12:40
lordievaderSuppose so.12:41
mparilloActually, I prefer what I seem to see on G+ to Facebook. That said, I posted to everybody, and after I did that, I did not see an option to share it to the community, as it was already shared to everybody.12:41
mparilloMarcin Sągol seemed to share it to the community.12:42
Riddellimages are rebuilding!12:45
lordievaderAhhh....12:48
tuv0ktesters needed for final 15.04 candidate images and upgrades, join us in #kubuntu-devel to help out12:55
tuv0khow can I test?12:56
Riddelltuv0k: images are rebuilding, they should arrive soon and notification will be on this channel and here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds12:56
tuv0kI'm already running 15.04 last update this morning12:56
Riddellneeds a reinstall to test the install :)12:56
tuv0kformat the drive or can I keep /home?12:57
Riddellyes, if you install over the partition without formatting it'll remove /usr and /etc et al but keep /home and others12:57
tuv0kcool12:57
mparilloMy 14.10 -> 15.04 upgrade was successful, so I have removed the section on updating 14.10 from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu12:58
DarkwingWell, 15.04 hidpi is looking better13:13
Sick_RimmitHola me lovelies13:14
Sick_RimmitI have a spanish friend who wants to know how to use Spanish characters in Ubuntu13:14
Sick_RimmitIs that done these days with the Input Switcher13:14
BluesKajRiddell, so the daily i just burned is already obsolete?13:14
lordievaderAh new images.13:15
BluesKajyup, think the one I used is 2015042113:15
RiddellBluesKaj: zsync down the new one13:17
Riddellhi hateball 13:18
Riddellhateball: download new iso images and install it so tick the boxes on iso.qa.ubuntu.com13:18
DarkwingScaling is still rough but, better than most 13:20
Riddellscaling?13:20
Riddellhigh dpi?13:20
BluesKajRiddell, never used zsync before , zsync url to imagefile patrh ?13:21
DarkwingYeah 13:21
hateballRiddell: Alright!13:21
DarkwingI've been bouncing around trying go find the best solution. 13:21
RiddellBluesKaj: zsync url here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds/92413/downloads13:22
Riddellrun  zsync <url> and it'll sync into the file in the current directory13:22
hateballRiddell: I was thinking if there was something related to testing certain apps or something, nothing like that?13:22
RiddellDarkwing: lots of improvements in that but mostly missed in plasma 5.2, install plasma 5.3 may help, it also need lots of app changes which d_ed is working on13:22
Riddellhateball: we need kontact tested on upgrade13:23
hateballRiddell: Right, so it's purely KDE stuff, and not things like this (which is what I have encountered) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344879 ?13:24
ubottuKDE bug 344879 in general "memory leak in plasmashell - huge ram usage" [Normal,Unconfirmed]13:24
DarkwingRiddell: the freaky thing is how bad in general support is. 13:24
DarkwingGnome and gtk based systems handled it lazily 13:29
DarkwingJust doubled the scale. So, for a non macbook it was way too big or way too small13:29
DarkwingActually most did that, or ignored it13:30
DarkwingUnity got it closest. The scaling slider was in much smaller increments 13:30
DarkwingBut, I couldn't handle Unity any longer. 13:31
BluesKajRiddell, brilliant, -o to the existing image too 2mins instead of 25 for a whole newone13:33
BluesKajtook13:33
d_edDarkwing: open the fonts KCM, change "force fonts DPI"13:34
d_edthat's basically the sliding scale unity has13:34
d_edGTK has the same, but under a property called TextScaling13:34
d_edthis both is completely separate to the pixmap doubling, yet at the same time also very related13:35
Darkwingd_ed I figured that out. 13:36
DarkwingIts nice13:36
d_edDarkwing: want to see the new config that will be there in 3 months?13:40
Riddelld_ed: ooh ooh yes :)13:40
DarkwingYes please? :D13:40
BluesKajok, here goes , gonna install the latest image to my other hdd, bbl13:41
DarkwingDamn, quassel system is awesome. 13:42
Darkwingquasseldroid is so helpful13:43
tuv0kits nice13:43
Riddellbah, you can't get better than ssh on your phone into a screen session13:44
DarkwingLol I'm fond of guis13:44
d_edhere you are: http://imgur.com/PcUnkDm13:44
Riddellneeding to type control-a 2 in a phone is just the ultimate security against people using it when your back it turned13:44
d_edonly problem I'm stuck on is working how to gracefully ram this into the kscreen UI13:45
DarkwingScreen doesn't notify my pebble13:45
Darkwingd_ed why not run it in the display area? 13:46
d_edit takes up too much space13:47
Riddelld_ed: separate kcm?13:48
stoocotHi, I'm looking for information how to modify Breeze windows decorations under Plasma 5. I want to change size and color of the window border. Does anyone know how to do it? Settings present in the control panel are not sufficient for me.13:48
Riddellstoocot: user support best in #kde and #kubuntu (cos I've no idea)13:51
stoocotBreeze is almost perfect but with apps filling windows with their own background has two problems:13:52
stoocotwith no-border setting windows dialog box has no visible difference to the background window13:53
stoocotwith small border, dialog has 3-4 points wide, ugly white frame13:54
DarkwingOnly thing I want to do is move the buttons to the left. 13:55
rdieterstoocot: the size is modifiable, but not color (afaict)13:55
Riddellthe people who make it are visual design who are nice and responsive on forums.kde.org13:56
rdieteroyxgen suffered the same issue (of borders not being distinguishable, but that may be feature rather than a bug)13:56
stoocotPlastic decoration is better readable but it crashes kwin on opengl application closing... 13:57
Riddellhum, well I installed 14.10 and added an e-mail accounts and it won't even show the e-mail in kontact :(14:02
Riddelllet's see if an upgrade helps14:02
Riddellah, pressing the next button helps14:04
Riddellok upgrading now14:04
micmordRiddell: testing a fresh install of the 92413 x86_64 iso on VirtualBox of my notebook I got problem (I/O error dev sr0) on final reboot, that after installation. I only have a screenshot. 14:07
Riddellmicmord: that's a known issue, it works fine if you turn the machine off and on again?14:07
* Riddell feels like the IT Crowd support team14:07
micmordRiddell: I'll try14:08
sitterRiddell: random question: how much work was 5.3beta?14:09
geniiHeh, "Have you tried turning off and back on again?"14:10
Riddellsitter: 1 symbol update and a couple of working out where the git repo was14:11
Riddellotherwise all good14:11
sitterohhhhh14:11
sitterRiddell: where was the symbol14:11
Riddellsitter: I forget I'm afraid, I can look it up once the upgrade is done14:14
Riddellpmc is moaning about no mockcpp14:14
Riddelland plasma-desktop about no packagekit of course14:14
Riddellwhich we can actually fix easily I think14:14
RiddellI had to add the about-data transitional to kinfocenter14:15
Riddelland ksysguard needed a recompile cos it was using the old libksysguard, I guess the scripts need sorted to fix that build-dep version14:15
sitter:O14:16
sitterI think I had the transition for that in place14:16
* sitter takes a looky14:16
micmordRiddell: forcing a reboot all works smoothly. Well done guys14:16
sitterRiddell: the script should have an extensive meeting with the bin14:16
Riddellmicmord: thanks for testing, do mark it on iso.qa.ubuntu.com14:16
sitterredo using all the CI libraries because they do everything already14:16
sitterlike override missing cmake deps in a way that doesn't suck balls14:17
Riddellsitter: I'll look forward to that :)14:17
RiddellI think sgclark is having more problems with applications14:17
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | Applications 15.04 Status http://goo.gl/JnVN6h | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | 11 bugs to fix http://goo.gl/Chh7uh
sitterah a transitional package14:17
Riddellremoved crash tracker (on qa.kubuntu.co.uk now) and removed plasma 5.3 backages14:18
sitterRiddell: why did about-distro need a transitional package though?14:18
Riddellsitter: to keep kubuntu-desktop metapackage happy for vivid upgrades14:18
sitterah, kubuntu-desktop14:18
* sitter takes a note to add transitionals in the future14:18
sitteractually it's interesting because I think the CI ISO explicitly seeds kubuntu-desktops so its odd that it worked there14:19
Riddellit's a recommends I guess14:20
sitteryeah14:20
sitterah well14:20
Riddellso it must be muon that had the symbol change, that's the only other one with a ~ppa214:20
Riddellor maybe bluez-qt14:20
* sitter actually needs to write tech to stop things from building on certain series as to unblock installation tests :/14:20
sitterRiddell: I take it you didn't branch by date?14:21
Riddellsitter: no, I just branched from kubuntu_stable14:21
sitterbluez-qt had udev added by you14:22
sittermuon had a new mo14:22
Riddellhmm, maybe I just imagined the symbol update14:22
sitteranyway, whatever the symbol thing was I presume itw as because you simply branched kubuntu_stable so it's this long standing problem that the CI branch might already be ahead of the tarball14:23
sitterwould either be solved by the merge tool I have half finished somewhere or CI orchestretrated release building14:23
sitterwhatever happens first I guess14:23
sitteralso releasme needs to be used to get rid of the arbitrary .mo changes :S14:23
sittersoooooooooo much work14:23
Riddellreleaseme used how?14:23
sitterto create the tarballs for CI14:24
sitterso we have l10n14:24
sitterwhich actually will probably need some fiddling in releasme because kde-apps do not put the translations in the app tarballs for some reason14:25
Riddellkde-apps doesn't use releaseme14:25
sitterRiddell: kde-applications14:26
sitterah well yes14:26
sitterthat is my point :P14:26
sitterit is different precisely because it isn't using releaseme14:26
sgclarkRiddell: I am having probelms with timing. Ben wants to go live yesterday and everything green. This is taking everything I have. I am so sorry, I am trying to get back to apps when I can.14:41
Riddellsgclark: don't appologise! the ci stuff is your priority right now :)14:42
sgclarkty14:43
mitya57Riddell: oh, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.kde.devel.core/86778 became quite a long-ish thread. Will read it in the evening :)14:47
Riddellyofel: kontact works good after an upgrade from 14.10, tested e-mail, contacts, to do and calendar14:49
yofelhm yeah, I'm not sure how to reproduce this. Maybe by doing the upgrade, SIGKILL-ing mysqld and seeing what happens14:51
yofelseems to be a weird corner case that happens if mysql 5.5 isn't cleanly shut down, upgraded to 5.6 (without running mysql_upgrade?) and ends up triggering a crash in innodb's error recovery14:51
Riddell:(14:54
sgclarkoh yeah my kontact is busted14:57
yofeldefine busted..14:57
sgclarkakonadi is not operational14:58
yofel*SIGH*14:58
DarkwingJust installed the daily image for today, what needs to be tested? 14:58
DarkwingHey yofel, long time mate 14:58
yofelhey Darkwing :)14:58
yofelsgclark: what's in your ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err ?14:58
RiddellDarkwing: add it to iso.qa.ubuntu.com please15:00
DarkwingKk15:00
sgclarkyofel: paste.ubuntu.com/1086647815:00
yofelsgclark: rm ~/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/ib_logfile*15:01
yofelthen try 'akonadictl start'15:01
yofelbug 143784615:01
ubottubug 1437846 in mysql-5.6 (Ubuntu) "akonadi mysql 5.6 crash with signal 11" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143784615:01
sgclarkyofel: that worked :) thanks!15:03
Riddellrdieter: fedora beta looking good but the langauge selection tool likes to freeze lots15:11
rdieterRiddell: thanks, I'll pass iton15:11
Riddellrdieter: it worked it was just being very slow15:14
Riddellnow what's the secret to not having konsole crash on close?!15:14
rdieterok, I suspect it's UI for installing stuff in the background?15:14
yofelit crashes? ^^15:15
rdieterRiddell: good question, never seen that before15:15
Riddellrdieter: it seems to be using packagekit to install the language bits15:15
Riddellyofel: doesn't it for you? just run it and close it and it crashes for me15:15
yofelnope15:15
rdieterin fairness, I don't use konsole much anymore (I live in yakuake most of the time)15:16
yofelI rarlely use it though as I'm mostly in yakuake15:16
yofelhehe15:16
* rdieter high-fives yofel15:16
shadeslayerI don't think many people use konsole directly :P15:17
shadeslayeryakuake ftw15:17
RiddellI'm yet to understand the attration of yakuake, maybe it's intended for people who don't do e-mail and irc through a terminal15:17
shadeslayerah you need them windows15:17
yofelhow does yakuake get in the way there? byobu does for me often with the keybindings, but yakuake is a non-issue15:18
DarkwingRiddell, that's it for me. 15:19
yofelalthough even mutt works fine in byobu15:19
RiddellDarkwing: what what?15:20
DarkwingI don't do as much in konsole15:21
Darkwinggit and other stuff that way but, irc and email are full gui15:21
* lordievader allways has atleast one Konsole window open.15:22
Riddellbah, qgit for the win :)15:22
RiddellDarkwing: muon-discover working for you?15:44
DarkwingHave not checked it yet. 15:44
DarkwingWill do in a bit, making a bottle for the little one. 15:44
Riddellmparillo: you updated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VividUpgrades/Kubuntu ? will you update the invoke the tool to be the notification same as on UtopicUpgrades?15:45
Riddelllordievader: I don't get your autologin bug, oem install works pretty well for me15:46
mparilloRiddell: Yes, I updated the Upgrade help page to remove the update 14.10 step, as I tested without it and it worked. I am not sure I understand your second question.15:47
lordievaderThat's odd. I did get it with the new images...15:48
lordievaderPerhaps it is related to kvm/qemu?15:48
Riddellmparillo: the alf-f2 section needs replaced with section 6 from here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades/Kubuntu15:48
Riddellalt-f215:49
BluesKajok , on the latest daily ...a few crashes with system settings, but no freeezes so far...bbbiab15:57
RiddellBluesKaj: please report to iso.qa16:03
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Riddellhttp://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ updated with better links for Vivid and Wobbly bugs16:16
Riddellvivid now includes vivid-updates milestones16:16
Riddellvivid now includes vivid-updates milestone and tagged kubuntu16:16
RiddellWobbly now includes 15.10 milestone tagged kubuntu16:16
yofelwobbly?16:17
Riddellthe codename I just made up :)16:18
yofelheh16:18
mparilloThe alt-f2 was the way I tested (and got screenshots). I see the section on the Utopic upgrade. But it looks as if the changes start in section 4?16:21
Riddellmparillo: yes alt-f2 and running kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade is what you have to do before a release, after release time the notification will work so the instructions need to change16:22
Riddellmparillo: section 4 and 5 are only relevant for an upgrade from LTS such as 14.04, we're doing an upgrade from normal 14.1016:23
Riddellso just copy the bits from section 616:23
Riddellmparillo: you're on a testing roll :)17:43
mparilloTY. I took a break to update the upgrade page. Now I will create a new 14.10 VM to test that the upgrade works by following the directions. 17:49
Riddellmparillo: remember to test the notification17:50
Riddellmparillo: edit /etc/hosts add "212.13.202.11 changelogs.ubuntu.com"17:50
mparilloOf course now the Baloo File error refuses to pop=up in today's testing. But I did get migrating the empty kwallet, which I did not notice yesterday.17:51
Riddellit's weird that one17:51
mparilloSo I need to add that line and wait to see if the notification pops up?17:51
Riddelladd it and open Muon Update Thing17:51
mparilloOK. Signing of this VM to create a new 14.10 one.17:52
Riddellmeh the kubuntu.org accouncement leaked onto the rss feed, if anyone asks if it's out, it's not17:55
ovidiu-florinRiddell: most likely the new site won't be up for the release17:59
ovidiu-florinthe sysadmins said17:59
Riddellok, here's the announce on the current site https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.0418:03
Riddellplease take a look, let me know if you need access18:03
Riddellahoneybun: I'm linking to https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation#Preparing_the_installation_media even though it's incomplete, it's probably the best we have18:05
ovidiu-florinRiddell: the title still says beta 218:21
Riddellhow's this? https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu-new218:27
ovidiu-florinRiddell: the announcement page: the last line, close the parenhesis18:30
mparilloI added 212.13.202.11 changelogs.ubuntu.com at the end of /etc/hosts, but i only get "regular" software updates.18:31
ahoneybunon the release notes Riddell?18:31
Riddellahoneybun: announce up at https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.0418:50
Riddellahoneybun: feel free to make edits, check with me and mparillo first18:50
Riddellmparillo: wipe the cache in ~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release18:51
* ahoneybun believes he does not have access18:51
Riddellahoneybun: also check over https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu-new218:51
soeehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10867439/18:51
Riddelland comment on http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/15.04.png18:51
soeeW: Operation was interrupted before it could finish oO18:53
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: use konqueror18:53
Riddellhttp://www.itworld.com/article/2913377/linux/ubuntu-15-04-will-ship-with-canonicals-own-browser.html?page=2 "Kubuntu versus Ubuntu" "plasma 5 really caught my eye. To me it's the sexiest distro around"18:55
Riddellmparillo: may be worth a wire post if you can make it not flame-bait18:55
geniiHeh18:55
Riddellor just this directly http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/337mzx/why_ill_be_switching_to_kubuntufrom_ubuntu_come/18:57
ahoneybunRiddell: mparillo I'm going to fix some grammer18:57
Riddellgo for it18:57
ahoneybunRiddell: I thought the nvidia-prime bug was fixe18:58
ahoneybun*fixed18:58
Riddellahoneybun: where?18:59
ahoneybun(1428328) nvidia-prime needs sddm support18:59
ahoneybunremove?18:59
Riddellahoneybun: oh yes, please remove that18:59
EtriaphPlanet KDE tweeted the URL: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter18:59
ahoneybungot it18:59
EtriaphBut it's inaccessible.18:59
RiddellEtriaph: yeah my mistake sorry18:59
EtriaphJust a heads up.18:59
Riddellnothing I can do about it, there's some cache somewhere, it'll disappear at some point19:00
EtriaphNo need to apologize, just wanted to let you guys know.19:00
ahoneybunWe would like to thanks the whole of KDE's Plasma team for a beautiful new desktop. = We would like to thank the whole KDE Plasma team for a beautiful new desktop Riddell19:01
ahoneybungoing to change that19:01
Riddellthanks19:01
* Riddell head broken, going home, will log on later19:01
* ahoneybun saves changes19:02
* ahoneybun logs out19:02
ahoneybunsince that banner was made I'm guessing we are going to still be on the old site?19:06
soeehmm still rightclick on desktop wont work for me19:08
yofelWFM19:08
vipsoee: who needs rmb on desktop19:09
soeealso: [21:08] <soee> it is 5.3 feature that show desktop corner bind hides also panel ?19:09
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soeevip: me :)19:09
yofelgood question, I did see that but forgot about it..19:09
vipalso as not working meta+shift, or, previously working "windows can cover" toolbar19:09
soeecan you test one more thing: right click on window decoration, More Actions -> Special Application Settings ... leads to kdeinit5 crash19:10
vipsoee: "Dodatkowe ustawienia programu"?19:11
vipworks for me19:11
soeeoO19:11
vipsoee: btw, which version you ask me to test? :)19:12
soeevip: Vivid + Plasma 5.3beta19:12
vipsoee: ah so19:12
vipvivid only, here19:13
soeeyofel: can you check19:13
soee?19:13
yofelin ~2min19:13
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: which banner?19:14
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: [14:51] <Riddell> and comment on http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/15.04.png19:14
ahoneybunits the size of the old site19:15
ovidiu-florinyes19:15
ovidiu-florinthe sysadmins most likely won't get the new site up by release 19:15
ovidiu-florinbu we can't update our testbed site eighter19:15
yofelsoee: yep, kdeinit5 SEGV19:16
soee;(19:16
ahoneybuneighter?19:17
ahoneybuneither?19:17
ovidiu-florinno g19:17
soeeyofel: shall we report it somewhere ?19:18
yofelsoee: if you can yes19:19
* yofel wonders why drkonqi says: "You cannot report this error, because kdeinit5 does not provide a bug reporting address." @_@19:20
yofelRiddell: ^ ?19:20
Riddellyofel: upstream bug?19:27
yofelin drkonqi?19:27
RiddellI guess so, presumably you don't want to reporton kdeinit5 and drkonqi should be smart enough for that19:28
soeeyofel: teh bug shoudl go here https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=kdelibs&format=guided ?19:29
soeecomponent kdeinit ?19:29
yofelnot sure, there's XCB, kf5windowsystem and kwin in that, so one of them?19:30
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mparilloremoving ~/.cache/update-manager-core/meta-release got me the "A new version of Kubuntu is available" in Muon Update Manager. I click on it, give it my password, but nothing happens.19:53
Riddellum,ug19:55
Riddellno update manager popping up?19:55
Riddellrun kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade then19:56
lucas_ok 20:16
lordievadero/20:16
lucas_as you may know I was planing to do some promo video20:16
lucas_and i made one20:16
Riddellhi lucas_!20:17
Riddellooh20:17
=== rudydog is now known as monkeyjuice
lordievaderWhoop whoop20:17
lucas_i am uploading it to you tube20:17
Riddellawooga20:17
lucas_so you can watch and comment20:17
lucas_an we can eventually improve something20:18
lucas_ 5 minutes remaning20:20
lucas_my internet connection sucks ;p20:21
shadeslayerjoin the club20:25
lucas_http://youtu.be/JkoGMb8N78M20:28
lucas_ok please comment ;)20:28
Riddell"20:29
RiddellThis video is private"20:29
Riddelllucas_: ↑20:30
lucas_moment20:30
lucas_https://youtu.be/JkoGMb8N78M20:31
lucas_is it ok now?20:31
lordievaderStill private here.20:32
ovidiu-florinwhen exactly will the release happen?20:32
Riddelllucas_: still private20:32
Riddellovidiu-florin: when all the flavours declare themselves ready20:32
Riddellwe usually aim for midday utc but it's often later20:33
lucas_https://youtu.be/JkoGMb8N78M20:33
lucas_now it is public20:33
Riddelllucas_: yay20:33
lucas_for sure20:33
ovidiu-florinsound sounds broken20:34
ovidiu-florinis it my computer?20:34
lucas_well here is ok20:34
ovidiu-florinok20:34
Riddelllucas_: that rocks :)20:35
ovidiu-florinis the beginning of the sound in slow motion?20:35
lucas_it is fade in20:35
ovidiu-florinaha20:35
ovidiu-florinthen my ears are broken20:35
ovidiu-florin:P20:35
Riddelllucas_, ovidiu-florin: yep music sounds off key, maybe remove that effect?20:35
Riddelllucas_: I'd rather the default wallpaper was used20:35
ovidiu-florinlucas_: also, the text is sliding too fast20:36
Riddelllucas_: what's the font used? oxygen or ubuntu font better20:36
KDDAthe sound seems to be like really slow at the beginning20:36
lucas_oxygen20:36
ovidiu-florinalso some shaddow to the white text wouldn't hurt20:36
lordievaderlucas_: Isn't it a good idea to have the text slide from right to left? Now you see the last words first.20:37
Riddellgood point lordievader 20:37
mparillolucas_: Wonderful work. A nice break from Stampy Longnose (the current YouTube favorite around here).20:37
lucas_ok now problem20:38
ovidiu-florinat 0:10 the text effect is the one you should use at 0:34 and 0:45 and 0:58 20:38
lucas_text will be sliding from right to left now20:38
ovidiu-florinalso the www from the link at the end is not mandatory, but you can leave it20:38
Riddellbut aye, that's excellent as it is20:38
ovidiu-florinuuuu, ad a caption to it20:38
ovidiu-florinthat floating box that you can click on20:39
ovidiu-florinat the end20:39
lordievaderJup, it is rather nice :D20:39
ovidiu-florinand point it to the Kubuntu download page20:39
ovidiu-florinlucas_: it's awesome20:39
ovidiu-florinmaybe take notes of our sugestions for future videos20:40
ovidiu-florin:D20:40
ovidiu-florinyou got my like20:40
lordievader+120:40
lucas_sorry for the delay well english is not my native language so yuo know20:41
Riddellhablo solo espanol20:41
lucas_as for your suggestions I will try to incorporate them20:42
ovidiu-florinlucas_: vorbești românește?20:42
lucas_nope20:42
lucas_polish ;p20:42
ovidiu-florinlucas_: falo en portuges?20:42
ovidiu-florinparle vous fancais?20:43
* ovidiu-florin doesn't have the french keyboard layout20:43
Riddellgin dobry, as my flatmates used to say20:43
ovidiu-florinhow can I find what version of Qtquick I have installed?20:43
lucas_ok so things to improve text make it gray, and use different effect, something else?20:44
lucas_ah music20:44
ovidiu-florindon't make it gray20:44
lucas_on the begining20:44
ovidiu-florinit's awesome white20:44
ovidiu-florinjust add a shaddow20:44
Riddelllucas_: no effect on music, use default Next wallpaper20:44
lucas_ah about wallpaper20:45
ovidiu-florinand use the effect from 0:1020:45
lucas_this is not possible I fear20:45
ovidiu-florinRiddell: how can I find what version of Qtquick I have installed?20:45
Riddellovidiu-florin: apt-cache policy libqt5declarative520:46
ovidiu-florinthat's qt20:46
ovidiu-florinnot QtQuick20:46
Riddellit's qtquick20:46
Riddellwhich is part of qt20:47
ovidiu-florinso use: import QtQuick 2.320:47
ovidiu-florinQML is still a big mess in my head20:47
lucas_ Riddell: I choose this wallpaper because the default one was well ugly, and this green is was also used here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n2dthDSGkc ( this is official video from the Plasma 5.0)20:49
ovidiu-florinI don't think using the default wallpaper is mandatory20:49
Riddellit's not mandatory but it's good to keep consistent for branding20:50
Riddelland it's a thing of beauty!20:50
lucas_this green is a part of default plasma packages20:50
RiddellI know20:50
lucas_and the default wallpaper from plasma 5.2 was replaced in 5.3  20:51
lucas_whereas it should stay at least to plasma 5.420:51
lucas_as far as I remember default wallpaper is changed  after two major releases 20:53
lucas_and well you really do not want comments about default wallpaper ( ugly etc)20:54
Riddellshrug, as you wish :)20:55
ovidiu-florinopen the add new widget from the panel settings20:55
ovidiu-florintype something in the search box20:56
lucas_but the main reason is that I would need to record all the material once again20:56
ovidiu-florincan you? I can't20:56
* ovidiu-florin ZZZZZZzzzzzz.......20:58
soeeovidiu-florin: i can in 5.320:58
ovidiu-florinI have 5.2.220:59
Riddelllucas_: fair enough :)20:59
ovidiu-florinwhat do I do if the author of a plasmoid does not reply?21:02
ovidiu-florinI can fork it wright?21:02
ovidiu-florinright*....21:02
ovidiu-florinmy spelling is off today21:02
Riddellovidiu-florin: depends on the situation, where is it now?21:03
ovidiu-florinwhere is what?21:03
ovidiu-florinthe plasmoid is here: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?action=content&content=15208221:03
ovidiu-florinbut is broken in Qt5 land21:04
ovidiu-florinI've partially fixed it in my install21:04
Riddell"Updated:  Jul 5 2012" yeah I think you can fork that :)21:06
Riddelljust e-mail the author to let them know21:06
ovidiu-florinThanks 21:07
ovidiu-florinI'm off to bed 21:07
ovidiu-florinGood night 21:07
Riddellnight ovidiu-florin 21:07
Riddellsweet dreams21:07
Riddellhi frecel, excited about the release?21:19
* KDDA dances21:24
KDDAIm so excited, I just cant hide it21:24
Riddellwhee!21:24
soeeKDDA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDRke6Gu3nM21:25
soeeah no, it was it https://vimeo.com/4098707921:25
KDDALOL21:26
lucas_ok gonna uploading improved video22:05
Riddelllucas_++22:11
* shadeslayer is so tired22:11
frecelRiddell: you know it22:16
lucas_Riddell: almost there22:19
lucas_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cinHeN9YLLo&feature=youtu.be22:23
Riddellooh!22:26
lucas_something wrong?22:26
Riddelllucas_: genius :)22:27
Riddellnope it's perfect, I'm just excited :)22:27
lucas_ glad you like it ;)22:29
lucas_just curious, are you going  to post this video on your website or something ;p?22:30
Riddelllucas_: on the announcement if I can work out how22:31
Riddelloh yes it works :)22:32
lucas_^^22:33
Riddellfor those with access https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.0422:33
Riddellmuchas gracias lucas_, that's awesome22:33
valorielol, sgclark: https://plus.google.com/+BenLandin/posts/PgFmAFSNHKS22:34
valorieour own release party this weekend!22:34
* sgclark looks22:34
sgclark:)22:35
Riddellparty party party22:35
lucas_Riddell: no problem22:36
lucas_ok time to go for me so, see you later22:42
Riddellthanks much lucas_,sleep well22:42
Riddellthe world will party for kubuntu tomorrow22:42
lucas_hehe ;)22:43
frecelvalorie:  If you bump into Ben at LFNW tell him that frecel is saying hi22:45
valoriewhich Ben is that?22:46
valoriefrecel?22:46
valorieI "bump into" almost everybody at the KDE/Ubuntu table22:46
frecelBen Landin, the guy whos g+ post you linked22:46
valorieor rather, they bump into us22:47
frecelvalorie: well in that case you can tell everyone that frecel is saying hi :D22:54
valorielol22:55
sgclarkvalorie: what is the weather like up there?23:05
* ahoneybun has a tech night out tomorrow and is going to bring Ubuntu stickers with him.23:25
valoriesgclark: not warm (55F) but sunny23:45
valoriesnowing fir pollen though23:45
sgclarkahh fun23:46
sgclarkI am sure I will be one pile of sneezes lol23:46
sgclarkahh the new installer looks lovely23:51
valorieupdating the poor lil netbook23:55
valorieit can at least write USB23:55
valorieand be used for checking out krita23:55

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