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AndroUser(AndroUser) In okular, when using the drawing tool I cannot block the tool for making long handwriting Can you try if you can? I thing is somethinh wrong in my computer cause before i could, it started when changing the default stroke color00:01
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excalibrSo when the final 15.04 iso will be out?03:28
excalibrI'm all set for making a jump from Unity03:29
romberHi guys, how can I change GDM_LANG in kubuntu?03:51
romberI had export GDM_LANG in my .bashrc, and it work to launch application in my language if I run from terminal. But if I launch application from krunner or application menu, the language still is en_US.03:52
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GunnDawgromber: maybe change the application menus icon settings to point to your bash script instead of the default program launcher?04:06
valorie!vivid | excalibr04:12
ubottuexcalibr: Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) will be the 22nd release of Ubuntu due for release in April 2015. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1. For more info see the announcement at  http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/142504:12
* denza252 can't wait04:14
denza252...for all my packages to break thanks to the KDE PPAs I have enabled >.>04:14
romberGunnDawg, yes it's what I do now.. but I have to set for every application that use GDM ;(04:25
soeegood morning06:19
sizziffHello07:32
sizziffI use Kubuntu one week - nice system07:33
hateball:)07:33
pgquilesI'm having trouble when installing vivid daily on a uefi laptop. EFI is enabled, SecureBoot is disabled. Should the installation work out of the box, or should I use refind?08:11
alimanhi all. can anybody suggest me any post installation programs or something i need for kubuntu? i'm new to linux and i just installed kubuntu08:17
faustaliman: you are the only one who knows what you need08:18
alimanfaust, i thought there are some things that are needed for kubuntu to work properly08:20
GunnDawgaliman: If it boots up and you're able to use it then what more are you wanting?08:23
faustaliman: I hope that anything that is needed for kubuntu to work properly is installed by default when you install kubuntu08:24
alimanmhm, i understand08:25
eagles051387_!aptfix08:37
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »08:37
lordievaderGood morning.09:53
GunnDawgMorning09:54
lordievaderHey GunnDawg09:55
lordievaderHow are you doing?09:55
GunnDawgoh pretty up, up late.09:56
GunnDawgpretty good*09:56
jermaineHey fellas, had a question for ya, if I go ahead and install tonight's build of kubuntu, will transitioning to the full release be easy enough?10:04
lordievaderAh, I forgot the factoid :(10:05
lordievaderjermaine: If you update you'll get the released Vivid.10:05
jermainejust the typical apt-get upgrade will do?10:05
lordievaderjermaine: Make that a dist-upgrade and yes ;)10:07
jermaineThanks sith lord!10:07
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nicon`Hi all. I'm trying to set keyboard shorcut for "paste" in konsole to ctrl+v - it doesn't work (works only for current session, after creating new window/new tab it disapear from shorcuts), is there any way to fix it?11:00
nicon`I'm using kubuntu 15.04.11:01
hateballnicon`: are you editing the default profile?11:06
nicon`hateball: keyboard shorcuts changes works for all profiles.11:07
nicon`I changed many shorcuts, like switch to tab [1-9]...11:07
nicon`All shorcuts works without a problem, except paste one.11:07
nicon`Interesting thing: when I configure paste to ctrl+v it not only doesn't work in another session... When I switch to other tab and then go back to previous one, then it also stops working for "current" tab.11:08
nicon`Example: I'm on tab1 and I'm changing paste settings to ctrl+v.11:08
nicon`Testing => it's working.11:08
nicon`Switching tab to tab2, testing => it's not working.11:09
nicon`Switching tab to tab1, testing => it's not working :-)11:09
amariHi, how do I install a new language after Kubuntu is installed? I tried to move the language to the right list in System settings. But then some parts of the desktop (most of it) don't get translated. Do I have to install the language packs manually?11:27
amariHi, how do I install a new language after Kubuntu is installed? I tried to move the language to the right list in System settings. But then some parts of the desktop (most of it) don't get translated. Do I have to install the language packages manually?11:31
lordievader!patience| amari11:31
ubottuamari: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.11:31
BluesKajHiyas all11:37
abdelazizcan someone explain to me what does baloofile do?11:41
BluesKaj!baloo | abdelaziz11:43
BluesKaj!search11:43
ubottuSearch factoids for term: !search <term>11:43
BluesKajabdelaziz, look in system settings>search11:44
Riddell** testers needed for final 15.04 candidate images and upgrades, join us in #kubuntu-devel to help out12:48
SporkWitchanyone know if there's any way to get yakuake or konsole to do the "x-ray" background like gnome terminal?  That is, if the terminal window is on top of another window, the transparency shows the desktop background instead of the window that's underneath it?12:51
hateballRiddell: How does one help out? Is that question answered in -devel perhaps?13:02
compyuserplease help no sound in ubuntu r1413:04
Syco54645hello i am on kubuntu 15.04 beta and certain apps are not showing a tray icon13:21
Syco54645pidgin and xchat being two of them. any ideas or is this a bug?13:21
hateballSyco54645:  They are GTK apps, probably not updated to work with plasma 5 is my guess13:25
Syco54645hateball, that is what i figured. should i log a bug with kubuntu? Is that something that they would take care of or would it be up to the apps devs?13:34
hateballSyco54645: The app devs afaik, but I am no expert on the matter :)13:35
hateballSyco54645: The easy solution would be to use Quassel and... whatever one uses in place of Pidgin :p13:35
Syco54645hateball, i have not used kde since 2.0. was an avid gnome2 user so still figuring stuff out13:40
Syco54645i was actually trying to find something to replace pidgin with13:41
hateballI think there is something, I just cant remember the name since I dont use these things13:43
hateballKopete was one thing13:44
Syco54645yeah just looked at that13:45
bduncanSyco54645: telepathy is the thing now. look for IM contacts in the Internet menu14:13
Syco54645bduncan, that didnt seem to work correctly for me14:33
bduncanSyco54645: have you got kde-telepathy installed?14:36
Syco54645yes14:36
Syco54645let me try it again, i have gotten alot of updates lately14:36
Syco54645yes does not work. doesnt work with 2 step auth for google talk14:42
bduncanSyco54645: ah yes that's true. i had to set up a "per-application" password for it14:43
Syco54645i did that and it will not sign in14:43
Syco54645i will stick with pidgin for now14:43
bduncanhave you tried signing in 3 times? :)14:43
Syco54645and hope that they fix the tray icon14:44
Syco54645i tried 4 times14:44
Syco54645why 3?14:44
bduncani find that i have to keep clicking OK on the password box, i never figured out why...14:44
Syco54645probably a bug14:44
bduncanbut then i didn't try very hard to debug it14:44
Syco54645i will try it again in a month or so14:44
bduncanyou should report it as a bug14:44
bduncani'll vote for it!14:44
Syco54645right now i need to get to work14:45
Syco54645dont feel like working late tonight14:45
Syco54645;)14:45
bduncanjoin the club, sadly having spent an hour having a barbeque in the sunshine, it might be necessary!14:46
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mamonettihi15:30
mamonettihas anybody had problems with apps trying to load the kde print dialog and staying frozen for minutes before getting it? I mean any kde app, such as kate or okular15:31
mamonettifor some reason it has started to happen to me this morning after deleting with synaptic the old kernels of my system (apparently everything was fine)15:31
mamonettii think it might be related to kde looking for network printers, as i get the list updated everytime i'm going to print, but i'm not sure15:33
Andludsch1866free net working bevor all visit....15:41
Andludsch1866too freenet working before all to visit connection....15:49
Andludsch1866all right to low15:51
Andludsch1866too Operator Drone and Unopaste.......okay!15:54
Andludsch1866kubunto 14.10 and windows 8.1 compatable.......okay!15:57
Andludsch1866kubuntu 14.10 and windows 8.1 compatable ......all15:58
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Andludsch1866good looking, goodbye.....all here!16:00
LGTraderHi. New to Kubuntu coming from 12 years using Gentoo. I'm not clear how to discover the name of a repository so that I can add it in Muon. I need to add a newer NVidia driver (rev. 346 or later) to use with NVidia Digits.16:22
RiddellLGTrader: try driver manager in systemsettings16:28
LGTraderRiddell: That is how I got to nvidia-drivers but it only shows nvidia-drivers-331 and lower. I suspect I need to add a repository to get more leading edge packages but don't know how to determine what repositoy name (or modifier at the end) to add16:32
Riddelloh I'm on vivid that's why I have it16:33
LGTraderRiddell: The command 'ubuntu-drivers devices' shows the same thing.16:33
LGTraderRiddell: Sorry. What's 'vivid'? A newer version of kubuntu/ubuntu?16:34
RiddellLGTrader: yes, it's the new version we will release tomorrow as 15.0416:34
LGTraderRiddell: Being that I installed 14.10 yesterday if I wait until tomorrow and reinstall/upgrade will it all 'just work'?16:35
MoonUnit`might be better to install it today, the repos will get hammered on release day.16:36
mewshiLGTrader, upgrading from 14.10 to 15.04 (beta) worked for me the other day, and I must say, Plasma 5 is amazing o.o16:36
RiddellLGTrader: you can join us for testing if you want :)16:38
mewshiand, by now, everything should be effectively hammered out so there won't be much, if any, difference between today and tomorrow16:38
Riddelltesting is in #kubuntu-devel16:38
LGTraderALL: Downloading the vivid iso now. Let me try this out and see how it goes. I suspect I still would like to get and answer to the general question "I want to run application XYZ but Muon doesn't show it. How do I figure out what repository has it?"16:39
Riddellsadly there's no easy answer to that besides maybe search launchpad ppas16:39
mewshiLGTrader, if you have 14.10 installed, you don't need the iso (unless you wanna do a fresh install)16:39
RiddellLGTrader: would be much appreciated if you can fill out http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/338/builds once it's installed16:40
LGTraderBurning the iso now. Will work on this upgrade (or do a reinstall) after a doctors appt. Bookmarked the questionaire and will try to do that also Riddell. Thanks!16:44
BluesKajon 15.04 there are a few small problems like the desktop theme known as breeze-dark isn't dark at all it buries the icons in the panel so they can't be seen , but it's the only one that misbehaves on my install16:45
BluesKajoops sorry for the poor punctuation16:46
LGTraderRiddell:Disappointing that there's no easy way. Gentoo uses 'eix' to see what's in portage and the overlays I'm currently set up for, but also has 'eix-remote' which searches all overlays so it's very easy to figure out what to add.16:48
LGTraderAnyway, not complaining. I thin kubuntu is going to work well for me once I get past the shock of all new sys admin practices. (Like using sudo all the time)16:48
LGTraderAnyway, I'm outa here for now to do the install16:49
LGTraderThanks!16:49
BluesKajno need for sudo all the time if you use aliases in ~/.bashrc and all no pw in the sudoers16:55
faustBluesKaj: I would not advise to set NOPASSWD in sudoers16:59
faustfor ALL16:59
BluesKajfaust, I'm not advising , merely making a comment , if users really want to use no pw and shorten the commnads inn the konsole they'll find a way by searching google. That's how I found the mehods i use to make things simpler.17:01
faustI just wanted to make it clear for the casual reader that may think that it is a good idea17:02
BluesKajif you notice I didn't use the correct command for the sudoers entry\17:03
BluesKajfaust, well perhaps you wouldn't recommend it , but I haven't had any problems with security using those settings17:04
faustBluesKaj: good for you17:05
BluesKajwell, I'm a home user with no others using this pc and a lot of ppl here are just like me17:06
Andludsch1866thanke by for alone to command this programe pleace17:07
BluesKajwhoa Andludsch1866, something lost in translation there17:08
Andludsch1866advis and code all programe good idea...17:09
Andludsch1866okay17:09
BluesKajBBL17:10
Andludsch1866I who that....17:11
MoonUnit`mmm tempting http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta17:21
drwMoonUnit`: Hasn't killed my system so far...YMMV17:58
acz32anyone know if dolphin or konqueror can do custom command actions?18:37
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LGTraderRiddell: I did an install of the 15.04 prerelease. The install went fine. However after updating the nvidia-drivers package to version 346 I no longer have graphics. This is a _Very_ odd machine config so I don't think this will occur for others but as of right now I have issues.19:30
LGTraderRiddell: I will work on filing a report later today.19:30
compyuserhello, please help no sound (dummy output) in ubuntu\19:40
tuv0kclean install?19:42
compyuseryes19:46
compyusertuv0k my first install19:46
tuv0kgo into setting and switch default output device19:46
acz32anyone know why installing a new service through dolphin might fail?19:47
compyusertuv0k the only output device is : dummy output :(19:48
tuv0kdoes not sound right after a fresh install unless there is no sound card in the machine19:49
tuv0kif there is a hardware sound device, you might want to look again?19:49
compyusertuv0k there is the via technologies chip....a difficult chip for linux installed19:50
tuv0kwhich ubuntu version you install?19:50
compyusertuv0k especially the via 1720/24 chip19:50
compyusertuv0k r1419:51
tuv0k?19:51
compyusertuv0k Ubuntu r1419:51
tuv0k14.04? 14.10?19:51
tuv0kcompyuser: aplay -l19:52
compyusertuv0k 14.0419:52
compyusertuv0k 14.04 LTS19:53
tuv0krun that cmd in terminal19:53
compyuseraplay -l  ---> empty list19:53
tuv0kcompyuser: sudo aplay -l19:54
compyuser**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****19:55
compyuserHome directory not accessible: Permission denied19:55
lordievaderAplay gives an empty list? Could you pastebin the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 Audio'?19:55
compyuserlspci -k|grep -A2 Audio19:56
compyuser03:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)19:56
compyuserSubsystem: VIA Technologies Inc. Albatron PX865PE 7.119:56
lordievader!paste | compyuser19:56
ubottucompyuser: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.19:56
lordievaderCould you paste it via pastebin please?19:56
compyuserok19:57
tuv0khttp://askubuntu.com/questions/460035/dummy-output-sound-in-ubuntu-14-0419:57
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compyusertuv0k Are u sure this will sove my problem....20:01
compyuser?20:01
compyusertuv0k Are u sure this will solve my problem....20:01
compyuser?20:01
tuv0kof course not. I'd only be sure if I was the one actually working on your machine20:02
compyusertuv0k My problem is I tried many things,,,,but I m not able to solve it....20:03
tuv0kwe are trying to help you20:03
compyusertuv0k  my soundchip Via 1720/24 i believe it will not functioning in ubuntu...anda I have to buy a new soundcard20:04
lordievadercompyuser: Could you pastebin that output for me please?20:04
tuv0khttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/envy24control.1.html20:08
tuv0khttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220870020:09
tuv0kcompyuser: are you going to paste that output?20:09
lucas_Riddell: ping?20:12
lucas_ah hi to everyone20:13
lordievaderHey lucas_20:13
Riddellhi lucas_!20:15
Riddelllucas_: /join #kubuntu-devel20:15
lucas_ok20:16
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LGTraderRiddell: You back?20:17
Riddellhi LGTrader20:18
LGTraderRiddell: Hi. I did the 15.04 install. It worked fine until I installed the nvidia-drivers-346 package. My config is admittedly quite odd. I want to use kubuntu/nvidia as a 'Deep Learning' platform using NVidia's Digits program. This requires 346 for the compute GPUs, but I have 2 cards, an old 9600 driving the monitor and a GX465 with no monitors hooked up to be used as only a calculation engine20:21
LGTraderAnyway, I lost X after installing 346 due to no xorg.conf file and the system trying to use the wrong driver so I'm starting over.20:21
LGTraderI'll install from scratch (almost done) generate xorg.conf using nouveau driver, and then see if I can still get X that way after installing 34620:23
Riddellgood luck LGTrader!20:24
LGTraderYeah, uncharted ground for me. We'll see.20:25
LGTraderThis wouldn't have been any easier, possibly more difficult, on Gentoo.20:25
LGTraderCan you post that URL for the report you wanted me to file? I thought I bookmarked it but I'm not finding it. Chrome has changed its bookmark feature in the last few days.20:26
commongeeksgamehi20:29
LGTraderDoes kubuntu-15.04 support a RAID1 installation directly without having to download packages by hand?20:50
tuv0kdon't remember ever not being able to20:50
dale_where are the title bar menus in thunderbird/firefox/oethers?21:00
tuv0kdale_: what?21:00
dale_I don't see title bar menus in thunderbird or firefox?21:01
tuv0kdon't know what you are looking at. Screenshot?21:02
lordievaderLGTrader: If that is LVM RAID1, yes. If that is MDADM RAID1, I thought not.21:03
dale_well, there is the title bar, then the tabs, but no menu in between?21:03
LGTraderlordievader: I was looking for mdadm software RAID1. Thanks21:03
lordievaderYeah, I though that one was not installed by default.21:04
* lordievader uses lvm raid :D21:04
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LGTraderlordievader: I know nothing about LVM RAID. Can a LVM RAID use two different hard drives to make RAID1? I'll have to go try and find some info on that as I've never used LVM21:17
tuv0kyes21:18
acz32can dolphin or konqueror to custom right-click actions?21:18
geniiYes, but you have to tinker21:20
geniiacz32: Maybe take a look at http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201210/page09.html  ..a bit old but still relevent21:20
acz32genii: thanks for the link21:23
geniiacz32: You're welcome.. hopefully you can make one which does what you like :)21:23
acz32thanks. i'm used to xfce/thunar and miss that feature21:27
acz32nice to see there's a way to do it even if it's more involved21:28
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lordievaderLGTrader: LVM can do a lot, including a lot of different raid configurations.21:30
lordievaderLGTrader: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/LVM21:31
rbergI have always wondered why you would use lvm mirror over of raid 121:32
lordievaderWe, at the study association, do not.21:33
rberghuh.. why may I ask?21:36
lordievaderFriend of mine explained lvm can do two types of mirroring, lvm mirror or raid1 mirroring.21:38
lordievaderNever looked into it myself.21:38
rbergohh I see. I have used lvm on top of raid before but not lvm mirroring21:39
lordievaderrberg: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Logical_Volume_Manager_Administration/convert-mirror-to-RAID1.html21:41
lordievader"New versions of LVM can use the same raid implementations from MD." http://serverfault.com/questions/97845/lvm-mirroring-vs-raid1 That actually explains a lot.21:42
rberginteresting.. thanks for the links21:44
lordievaderNo problem ;)21:44
lordievaderLearned something myself :)21:45
vertago1I did a test upgrade to vivid without any major hitches :)21:58
LGTraderlordievader: Good links on the LVM RAID1 question as far as they go, but I don't see enough info yet to construct a machine that mounts a RAID1 root device. At least on my Gentoo machine (where I am currently using a RAID6 root) I have to create an initrd file and then run busybox to get mdadm to assemble the RAID6. I know the kernel can do a RAID1 root device with the older 0.9 metadata format, but any newer metadata requires an 22:12
LGTraderNo problem using LVM RAID1 for simple storage though, as best I can tell.22:14
rbergI gotta go, but I believe you ahev to put /boot on a raid 1. so any disk found has all the data, then the initrd can assemble the more advanced raid levels22:16
lordievaderLGTrader: My server boots fine to an LVM RAID1 rootfs. Must say /boot is on an md raid1.22:16
LGTraderOK, then I stand corrected as LVM isn't mdadm and the metadata thing is mdadm22:16
LGTraderIf BIOS can spin it up and read it, even if it's just reading one device, then it can likely boot it22:17
LGTraderAgain, I've never sed LVM so this is something I need to study22:17
lordievaderIt's grub who read it ;)22:18
TJ-LGTrader: metadata=1.0 puts it at the end of the device, so it can be used on a boot device. 1.1 and 1.2 but it at or near the start of the device, which is what causes problems for non-mdadm-aware tools22:18
TJ-LGTrader: I have all my non-laptop systems use RAID-1 boot disks so firmware can still boot it if 1 device fails22:19
LGTraderTJ: Thanks.22:20
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QualityAddictWhile back I saw a release date of tomorrow for 15.04. Is that still on track?22:29
QualityAddictAnxious to try out the new look.22:29
krytarikQualityAddict: Yep.22:30
QualityAddictkrytarik: Fantastic! Thanks.22:31
asgasgwill you announce it here?22:35
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ScuniziUser Manager in system settings of 14.04 is pretty worthless.  How do I get to one where I can see all the users and groups?23:21
Scunizihad to install kuser ... ergggggg23:31
toan__does anyone know where i can download the Kubuntu 15.04 LTS that's going to be released tomorrow?23:41
GunnDawgtoan__: did you try to google "Kubuntu 15.04"?23:42
GunnDawgtoan__: its all right there...23:42
toan__thats' the beta 2 version23:43
GunnDawgso you're wanting to know where to download something thats not been released yet?23:43
toan__know what i mean23:44
GunnDawgI dont23:44
acz32is alsa recommended over pulseaudio with kde?23:44
GunnDawgacz32: I use pulse with no issues23:44
acz32ok23:45
toan__aka prerelease version23:45
GunnDawgoh, so the beta?23:45
toan__yea23:49
GunnDawgyou said earlier you didnt want that. I told you to google it and you said "That's just the beta"23:49
toan__GunnDawg, i am looking for the official release ver.23:49
toan__i can get the beta 2 version easily23:50
GunnDawgIt doesnt release until tomorrow23:50
toan__i know, that's why i ask23:50
geniitoan__: The latest images available are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/   ... 15.04 is not LTS though. LTS releases are the ones which are every 2 years on the even numbered years. So the next one will be April 2016, the 16.0423:50
GunnDawggenii: \0/23:51
toan__genii, that that the one that will be released tomorrow?23:51
GunnDawgtoan__: no, the one that releases tomorrow, will be released tomorrow23:52
toan__:-(23:52
geniitoan__: It is the closest there is to that right now. Just get this one, then tomorrow use zsync to get the differences ( if any) between this image and the final one23:52
genii!zsync | toan__23:52
ubottutoan__: Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage23:52
geniitoan__: All the different releases will be out in about 15-16 hours from now.23:53
toan__ubottu, do you know what time (in utc) it will be release tomorrow?23:53
ubottutoan__: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:53
geniitoan__: Traditionally around or just after 4pm GMT23:53
toan__ubottu, och, you're smart, and know what you're talking about23:53
ubottutoan__: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:53
toan__thanks guys; i think i can wait to get the official version23:54
toan__is there a feature in kde to hide an app (like when the user clicks on close, the WM stop all cpu processing and hide the app forever)?23:59

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