[04:08] <hyper_ch> hmmmmm, did the launchpad ppa urls change?
[04:09] <hyper_ch> e.g. I get 404 on https://ppa.launchpad.net/tiheum/equinox/ubuntu
[06:22] <wgrant> hyper_ch: http, not https
[06:22] <wgrant> https is for private PPAs.
[06:29] <hyper_ch> wgrant: when did that change?
[06:29] <hyper_ch> I've had it like this as bookmarks for ages
[06:30] <wgrant> hyper_ch: Literally never.
[06:30] <hyper_ch> owait
[06:30] <wgrant> You're not running something like HTTPS Everywhere, are you?
[06:30] <hyper_ch> I think that's it
[06:31] <hyper_ch> yeah, that's it... seems they change it now to https
[06:31] <hyper_ch> but then, why not use https by default
[06:32] <wgrant> HTTP and HTTPS provide different services on ppa.launchpad.net.
[06:34] <hyper_ch> like?
[06:34] <wgrant> HTTP is for public PPAs, and HTTPS is for private PPAs.
[06:35] <hyper_ch> but why not make everything https?
[06:35] <wgrant> Because that's not how things were done initially, and there's very little reason to change that now.
[06:35] <wgrant> PPAs are authenticated by OpenPGP signatures, not HTTPS, so HTTPS provides very little benefit to public PPAs.
[06:35] <wgrant> And it prevents proxies from caching them.
[06:36] <hyper_ch> little benefit?
[06:36] <hyper_ch> hmmm, I seem to remember that everybody says that it's important to know who connects to whom/what.....
[06:36] <hyper_ch> so using https would help here
[06:36] <wgrant> That's the sole benefit, yes.
[06:37] <wgrant> But it doesn't prevent attackers from knowing that you connected to ppa.launchpad.net. Just precisely what you downloaded.
[06:37] <hyper_ch> so that's a good reason
[06:37] <wgrant> It is something that may change in the future.
[06:37] <hyper_ch> anyway, thx for clearing this up... I guess I need to make an exception to https
[13:45] <cjwatson> LP will be offline for a few seconds shortly for a database schema upgrade.
[14:53] <ricotz> hello, please take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/265701
[14:53] <cjwatson> (DB upgrade complete)
[14:54] <cjwatson> ricotz: No need to ping us on IRC, those of us who can do such things are subscribed to answers.lp.net/launchpad so get them by mail
[14:54] <cjwatson> as it happens that's not one of the things I can do, but I expect William will be around shortly :)
[14:55] <ricotz> cjwatson, sorry, I wanted to minimize the delay, since I already uploaded new package and noticed the space got exceeded :\
[14:58] <ricotz> wgrant, thanks!
[14:58] <wgrant> Ah, hi.
[14:58] <wgrant> Yes, done.