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ianorlinwxl hmm still no word on respins01:52
wxlianorlin: do you think i should trigger them again?04:18
ianorlinhmm not sure will look at packages04:18
wxlweird05:48
wxljust installed an i386 alternate 20150420.1 in qemu and i got the nasty bug again05:49
wxlthe bootup one that was supposedly solved in ubiquity05:49
wxli just installed one today and no problem weird05:50
wxlonly that was virtualbox05:50
wxlianorlin: when you get a chance, want to check it out with qemu/kvm?05:52
Unit193wxl: Alternate != Ubiquity.05:52
wxlUnit193: i KNOW. same symptoms though. there was some theory about it being systemd related05:53
Unit193There was a casper upload.05:53
wxlwhen?05:53
Unit193[10:50:45] queuebot:#ubuntu-release: Unapproved: casper (vivid-proposed/main) [1.359 => 1.360] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)05:54
wxloh jeez i'm tired05:54
wxli'm wrong05:54
wxli think05:54
wxltoo many bugs this time argh :(05:54
Unit1932 days...05:55
wxli know :(05:55
wxlweird i might have to make a new bug05:56
* wxl sighs05:56
wxlor maybe just call it on this one05:56
wxli'm going to bed :)05:56
ianorlinwxl yep kvm works and doesn't have restart now problem16:52
wxlbug 143477417:20
ubot93bug 1434774 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "lxpanel volume applet settings opens empty terminal window" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143477417:21
wxlgsilva: i updated the release notes with known bugs17:29
gsilvathanks, wxl17:31
wxlgsilva: i'm pretty sure that's it17:31
wxlgsilva: let me know if you need anything else17:31
gsilvaI'll take a look tonight and email you if there's anything missing17:32
wxlgsilva: sorry for taking so long17:33
gsilvaNa, don't worry17:33
gsilvaI know it has been really tough for you guys17:33
wxlgsilva: it's really nice to have you around helping. in the past, i've had to go through all the qa/bug hunting stuff and then do all the wikis myself. so THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU17:36
gsilvaI haven't done anything so far except preparing the pages for you guys to put sutff17:40
gsilvathat isn't much :)17:40
wxlgsilva: yes, but if you didn't do it, i probably would have to :)17:43
gsilvaNo worries, I got your back :D17:43
wxloops forgot one17:45
wxlan important one, too!17:45
gsilvaone favour I need to ask someone: Can you confirm if the links are correct in GetLubuntu+1?17:46
gsilvaIf not, just mail me links and I'll swap them tonight, so that I just need to copy stuff over tomorrow morning17:47
wxlgsilva: could you give me the full link?17:49
gsilva1 sec17:49
gsilvahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu+117:50
ianorlin hmm almost done the live session for amd6417:51
wxlianorlin: are you sure that window decoration bug only affects that particular hardware?17:51
wxlgsilva: ReleaseNotes17:51
ianorlindoesn't effect my laptop or any other hardware I have17:52
ianorlinor a vm in kvm17:52
wxlgsilva: KnownIssues17:52
ianorlinI don't think it affected virtualbox either17:52
ianorlinit also doesn't effect that hardware in the live session17:52
wxlianorlin: did you have the reboot now problem in virtualbox?17:52
wxl(you should have)17:52
wxlgsilva: PPC should be commented out17:53
wxlgsilva: and change the standard pc links to 15.04 from 14.1017:53
wxlianorlin: if i were you, i'd post that up to the list and see if you can get someone else to confirm on their hardware17:54
wxlianorlin: hold on though17:54
wxlianorlin: actually i'd check to see if other images have the same problem17:54
wxlianorlin: if other ones have the same problem, i'd post to ubuntu-quality. if it's only lubuntu, post to lubuntu-qa and then we'll have some digging to do.17:55
ianorlinwxl understood17:57
ianorlinI can't reproduce it in xubuntu and I don't get the problem on my laptop18:18
wxlaw that stinks18:20
wxlmight be an artwork problem18:20
ianorlinwxl as in this means I think that the session when setting up install from the menu might not be right18:23
wxlyeah18:23
ianorlingrr still having toucpad problems on my mom laptop but don't want to mess with her partitions and only 2 usb ports so if I try to install from usb only have 1 for a mouse or external hard disc18:58
gsilvawxl, by PPC you mean PowerPC System?18:58
ianorlinso hard ot install to an external and have it not effect stuff18:59
wxlianorlin: is that a hardware or software problem? :)19:01
wxlgsilva: yes19:01
gsilvaI'll insert that between comments, letting future contributors that the system is already there if they need it19:03
gsilvaBut should I keep it as it is for 14.10 and write something like "PPC is not available for Lubuntu 15.04"?19:03
wxlgsilva: yes the latter. like in the release notes it says ppc is lts only19:04
gsilvadone19:05
gsilvaand ready19:05
wxlyay19:05
wxlthank you sir :)19:05
gsilvawxl, when do you think I should start moving pages? At midnight or should I wait for tomorrow?19:06
gsilva(off to dinner, be back in 2 hours or so)19:06
wxlgsilva: once release team says we're good to go19:06
ianorlinwxl the touchpad works with 14.04 with unity so I think it is a a software problem with that particular hardware19:07
wxlianorlin: oh so you were testing 15.04 lubuntu on there?19:08
ianorlinyeah and I am gald acecipher left his mini keyboard with touchpad here when I put that in one usb port the touchpad worked19:08
wxlweird19:09
wxlmight be good to compare what drivers they're both using19:09
ianorlinaltohugh I wished manual partitioning on ubiquity worked without using the mouse as it seems almost everything else would work19:11
wxlhuh that's interesting19:11
wxlseems like a bug if you ask me19:11
wxlmaking things accessible should not be a feature request :)19:11
ianorlinseeing as low vison people or people with poor motor skills can have trouble with a mouse19:12
wxlexactly my thought19:13
ianorlinnot sure a fix can come out for vivid though19:14
wxlyeah i think that's got a cold chance in hell19:14
ianorlinum ok this is really wierd I was able to get no window decorations with intel graphics If I reboot my computer than go into the installer on my laptop but from all the way off the window decoratoins show up19:14
wxlthat's super weird19:15
krytarikgsilva: These are still linking to the 14.04.1 files, rather than 14.04.2:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu+1#PowerPC_systems19:24
wxlwell it's official: LSC has had that same problem with not being able to find packages as far back as Precise!!!!19:29
ianorlinwxl do you think it is worth my time seeing if the touchpad can work if I boot off the external hard drive with my mom laptop to see if it would affect an installed system?19:30
wxlianorlin: yeah i definitely think os19:30
ianorlinum wth it works in the installed version ok this gets even weirder19:39
wxlhahahah19:46
wxlianorlin: sounds like a ubiquity only problem.19:47
wxl!search software-center19:53
ubot93None found19:53
Unit193!find software-center19:53
ubot93Found: software-center, software-center-aptdaemon-plugins, lubuntu-software-center, ubuntu-kylin-software-center19:54
wxldoes xubuntu use synaptic or do they have their own store thing?19:54
ianorlinthe use the ubuntu software center19:54
Unit193wxl: No.  software-center.19:54
wxlthx Unit193 :)19:56
ianorlinwxl any release note help needed?20:31
wxlianorlin: no, but if you want to check over what i did, go for it20:31
ianorlinwxl if I test an alternate in a vm should I try vbox as desktops aren't working there but if an alternate works in vbox might be better for some poeple20:45
gsilvaback20:48
gsilvakrytarik, going to fix it20:48
krytarikThanks.20:48
gsilvacan you give me the right links?20:49
gsilvaor replacing 14.04.1 for 14.04.2 will work in the links?20:49
gsilvaBecause nobody changed that in the official getlubuntu page/section20:49
krytarikgsilva: Yep, that.20:50
gsilvaofficially done20:51
gsilvarelease page is ready20:51
Unit193gsilva: Can you point development related links to here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs#Live_Chat20:52
gsilvawhat do you mena, Unit193 ?20:52
Unit193gsilva: As in, open that link, look down towards the bottom, it tells you to join development in #lubuntu.20:53
Unit193Sorry for not being clear.20:53
gsilvaah, okay20:53
Unit193krytarik: Shush.20:53
Unit193:P20:53
gsilvaSorry missed that yesterday when wxl asked to do something on Wiki20:53
gsilvaOur wiki sucks in terms of organization20:53
gsilvaI'm revising all main pages but will do that asap, Unit19320:54
wxlyou know what you could do, gsilva ? just make a subpage that has the links and include it on all the relevant pages20:54
wxllike we do with the subteams20:54
Unit193gsilva: There's a "get support" link already, just add a development one?20:54
gsilvawxl, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO like that?20:54
gsilvaWho fills in the announcement page?20:56
gsilvahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/15.0420:56
gsilvaThat's very similar to the release notes20:56
wxldoesn't look like much to change gsilva20:57
wxljust change the versions and make sure the links are right20:57
gsilvanevermind, was being dumb, lol20:58
wxlgsilva: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams how all the sections are included20:58
wxlor you could include all of the relevant contacts in those and just include them on the appropriate pages20:58
gsilvaI asked someone to help me do the first page, right?20:59
wxlianorlin: i checked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/1445818 in precise and i'm pulling down utopic right now. want to see how trusty is?20:59
ubot93Launchpad bug 1445818 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "run dialog called from one desktop opens on the desktop with preferences dialog, regardless of which desktop is current" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:59
wxlgsilva: you did?20:59
gsilvathe master page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu+120:59
gsilvaWiki going cabum21:00
wxlit is that time :)21:01
gsilvaSeems so21:01
wxlianorlin: also if you added any new bugs in testing, could you put them on the release notes?21:01
wxl(maybe the touchpad one?)21:02
wxlmight want to shake it first and see if it's truly a lubuntu issue21:02
ianorlinwxl ah true and a link would be helpful21:02
wxly9iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikes21:02
wxltwo red bugs on ubuntu proper21:03
wxlthat's not a good sign21:03
wxli smell a rebuild in the future :/21:03
gsilvaUnit193, done21:03
Unit193Heh, danke.21:07
gsilvawxl, the announcement that Lubuntu 15.04 is a go is going to be made via which mailing list?21:14
gsilvaI want to make sure I've joined that mailing list before21:14
gsilvaI'm only at admins, wiki-docs-team, brainstorm and that's it21:14
ianorlinwxl I feel quite exhausted now21:58
wxlgsilva: are you taking over comms or who is that?22:09
wxlianorlin: i know the feeling XD22:09
wxlrun problem doesn't affect utopic22:12
wxlianorlin: i see you already did trusty so nm22:13
wxlwe went straight from 0.6.2 to 0.7.1 in vivid on lxpanel22:26
wxlsorry 0.7.222:26
wxlUnit193: re: bug 1445818 do you have any idea how i could downgrade to lxpanel 0.7.2-1ubuntu1? i can get the debs from lp, but lxpanel-data is not included, so it's hard to install.22:59
ubot93bug 1445818 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "run dialog called from one desktop opens on the desktop with preferences dialog, regardless of which desktop is current" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144581822:59
Unit193wxl: wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.7.2-1ubuntu1/+build/6768951/+files/lxpanel-data_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_all.deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.7.2-1ubuntu1/+build/6768951/+files/lxpanel-dbg_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.7.2-1ubuntu1/+build/6768951/+files/lxpanel-indicator-applet-plugin_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb23:01
Unit193https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.7.2-1ubuntu1/+build/6768951/+files/lxpanel_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb23:01
wxlUnit193: oh so the data file is there even though i didn't see it?23:01
Unit193wxl: Don't know why you wouldn't.  Also, why ubuntu1?  Not much is different.23:02
Unit193  * debian/lxpanel.install23:02
Unit193   - Don't install /usr/share/locale and /usr/share/lxpanel, already installed23:02
Unit193     in lxpanel-data (LP: #1417244).23:02
ubot93Launchpad bug 1417244 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "package lxpanel-data (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/lxpanel/xkeyboardconfig/models.cfg', which is also in package lxpanel 0.7.2-1ubuntu1" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141724423:02
Unit193  * debian/control:23:02
Unit193   - Update Replaces and Breaks.23:02
wxli hear you23:03
wxljust trying to narrow down the possibiliities23:03
ianorlinwait didn't that not install itself23:04
wxloic23:04
wxlit didn't get build for i38623:04
wxlTHAT"S WEIRD23:05
Unit193No.23:06
wxlannoyed by which letters to use with tar? fax, man. that's all you need.23:21
Unit193tar Jcf or jcf, maybe with v will do it.23:23
wxlor there's the unar package23:23
Unit193cpio is when it gets more fun.23:25
wxl!info cpio23:26
ubot93cpio (source: cpio): GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of files. In component main, is required. Version 2.11+dfsg-2ubuntu1.1 (utopic), package size 76 kB, installed size 328 kB23:26
wxloooh23:28
wxlfancy23:28
Unit193No. :P23:29

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