[01:52] <ianorlin> wxl hmm still no word on respins
[04:18] <wxl> ianorlin: do you think i should trigger them again?
[04:18] <ianorlin> hmm not sure will look at packages
[05:48] <wxl> weird
[05:49] <wxl> just installed an i386 alternate 20150420.1 in qemu and i got the nasty bug again
[05:49] <wxl> the bootup one that was supposedly solved in ubiquity
[05:50] <wxl> i just installed one today and no problem weird
[05:50] <wxl> only that was virtualbox
[05:52] <wxl> ianorlin: when you get a chance, want to check it out with qemu/kvm?
[05:52] <Unit193> wxl: Alternate != Ubiquity.
[05:53] <wxl> Unit193: i KNOW. same symptoms though. there was some theory about it being systemd related
[05:53] <Unit193> There was a casper upload.
[05:53] <wxl> when?
[05:54] <Unit193> [10:50:45] queuebot:#ubuntu-release: Unapproved: casper (vivid-proposed/main) [1.359 => 1.360] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[05:54] <wxl> oh jeez i'm tired
[05:54] <wxl> i'm wrong
[05:54] <wxl> i think
[05:54] <wxl> too many bugs this time argh :(
[05:55] <Unit193> 2 days...
[05:55] <wxl> i know :(
[05:56] <wxl> weird i might have to make a new bug
[05:56]  * wxl sighs
[05:56] <wxl> or maybe just call it on this one
[05:56] <wxl> i'm going to bed :)
[16:52] <ianorlin> wxl yep kvm works and doesn't have restart now problem
[17:20] <wxl> bug 1434774
[17:21] <ubot93> bug 1434774 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "lxpanel volume applet settings opens empty terminal window" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434774
[17:29] <wxl> gsilva: i updated the release notes with known bugs
[17:31] <gsilva> thanks, wxl
[17:31] <wxl> gsilva: i'm pretty sure that's it
[17:31] <wxl> gsilva: let me know if you need anything else
[17:32] <gsilva> I'll take a look tonight and email you if there's anything missing
[17:33] <wxl> gsilva: sorry for taking so long
[17:33] <gsilva> Na, don't worry
[17:33] <gsilva> I know it has been really tough for you guys
[17:36] <wxl> gsilva: it's really nice to have you around helping. in the past, i've had to go through all the qa/bug hunting stuff and then do all the wikis myself. so THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
[17:40] <gsilva> I haven't done anything so far except preparing the pages for you guys to put sutff
[17:40] <gsilva> that isn't much :)
[17:43] <wxl> gsilva: yes, but if you didn't do it, i probably would have to :)
[17:43] <gsilva> No worries, I got your back :D
[17:45] <wxl> oops forgot one
[17:45] <wxl> an important one, too!
[17:46] <gsilva> one favour I need to ask someone: Can you confirm if the links are correct in GetLubuntu+1?
[17:47] <gsilva> If not, just mail me links and I'll swap them tonight, so that I just need to copy stuff over tomorrow morning
[17:49] <wxl> gsilva: could you give me the full link?
[17:49] <gsilva> 1 sec
[17:50] <gsilva> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu+1
[17:51] <ianorlin>  hmm almost done the live session for amd64
[17:51] <wxl> ianorlin: are you sure that window decoration bug only affects that particular hardware?
[17:51] <wxl> gsilva: ReleaseNotes
[17:52] <ianorlin> doesn't effect my laptop or any other hardware I have
[17:52] <ianorlin> or a vm in kvm
[17:52] <wxl> gsilva: KnownIssues
[17:52] <ianorlin> I don't think it affected virtualbox either
[17:52] <ianorlin> it also doesn't effect that hardware in the live session
[17:52] <wxl> ianorlin: did you have the reboot now problem in virtualbox?
[17:52] <wxl> (you should have)
[17:53] <wxl> gsilva: PPC should be commented out
[17:53] <wxl> gsilva: and change the standard pc links to 15.04 from 14.10
[17:54] <wxl> ianorlin: if i were you, i'd post that up to the list and see if you can get someone else to confirm on their hardware
[17:54] <wxl> ianorlin: hold on though
[17:54] <wxl> ianorlin: actually i'd check to see if other images have the same problem
[17:55] <wxl> ianorlin: if other ones have the same problem, i'd post to ubuntu-quality. if it's only lubuntu, post to lubuntu-qa and then we'll have some digging to do.
[17:57] <ianorlin> wxl understood
[18:18] <ianorlin> I can't reproduce it in xubuntu and I don't get the problem on my laptop
[18:20] <wxl> aw that stinks
[18:20] <wxl> might be an artwork problem
[18:23] <ianorlin> wxl as in this means I think that the session when setting up install from the menu might not be right
[18:23] <wxl> yeah
[18:58] <ianorlin> grr still having toucpad problems on my mom laptop but don't want to mess with her partitions and only 2 usb ports so if I try to install from usb only have 1 for a mouse or external hard disc
[18:58] <gsilva> wxl, by PPC you mean PowerPC System?
[18:59] <ianorlin> so hard ot install to an external and have it not effect stuff
[19:01] <wxl> ianorlin: is that a hardware or software problem? :)
[19:01] <wxl> gsilva: yes
[19:03] <gsilva> I'll insert that between comments, letting future contributors that the system is already there if they need it
[19:03] <gsilva> But should I keep it as it is for 14.10 and write something like "PPC is not available for Lubuntu 15.04"?
[19:04] <wxl> gsilva: yes the latter. like in the release notes it says ppc is lts only
[19:05] <gsilva> done
[19:05] <gsilva> and ready
[19:05] <wxl> yay
[19:05] <wxl> thank you sir :)
[19:06] <gsilva> wxl, when do you think I should start moving pages? At midnight or should I wait for tomorrow?
[19:06] <gsilva> (off to dinner, be back in 2 hours or so)
[19:06] <wxl> gsilva: once release team says we're good to go
[19:07] <ianorlin> wxl the touchpad works with 14.04 with unity so I think it is a a software problem with that particular hardware
[19:08] <wxl> ianorlin: oh so you were testing 15.04 lubuntu on there?
[19:08] <ianorlin> yeah and I am gald acecipher left his mini keyboard with touchpad here when I put that in one usb port the touchpad worked
[19:09] <wxl> weird
[19:09] <wxl> might be good to compare what drivers they're both using
[19:11] <ianorlin> altohugh I wished manual partitioning on ubiquity worked without using the mouse as it seems almost everything else would work
[19:11] <wxl> huh that's interesting
[19:11] <wxl> seems like a bug if you ask me
[19:11] <wxl> making things accessible should not be a feature request :)
[19:12] <ianorlin> seeing as low vison people or people with poor motor skills can have trouble with a mouse
[19:13] <wxl> exactly my thought
[19:14] <ianorlin> not sure a fix can come out for vivid though
[19:14] <wxl> yeah i think that's got a cold chance in hell
[19:14] <ianorlin> um ok this is really wierd I was able to get no window decorations with intel graphics If I reboot my computer than go into the installer on my laptop but from all the way off the window decoratoins show up
[19:15] <wxl> that's super weird
[19:24] <krytarik> gsilva: These are still linking to the 14.04.1 files, rather than 14.04.2:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu+1#PowerPC_systems
[19:29] <wxl> well it's official: LSC has had that same problem with not being able to find packages as far back as Precise!!!!
[19:30] <ianorlin> wxl do you think it is worth my time seeing if the touchpad can work if I boot off the external hard drive with my mom laptop to see if it would affect an installed system?
[19:30] <wxl> ianorlin: yeah i definitely think os
[19:39] <ianorlin> um wth it works in the installed version ok this gets even weirder
[19:46] <wxl> hahahah
[19:47] <wxl> ianorlin: sounds like a ubiquity only problem.
[19:53] <wxl> !search software-center
[19:53] <ubot93> None found
[19:53] <Unit193> !find software-center
[19:54] <ubot93> Found: software-center, software-center-aptdaemon-plugins, lubuntu-software-center, ubuntu-kylin-software-center
[19:54] <wxl> does xubuntu use synaptic or do they have their own store thing?
[19:54] <ianorlin> the use the ubuntu software center
[19:54] <Unit193> wxl: No.  software-center.
[19:56] <wxl> thx Unit193 :)
[20:31] <ianorlin> wxl any release note help needed?
[20:31] <wxl> ianorlin: no, but if you want to check over what i did, go for it
[20:45] <ianorlin> wxl if I test an alternate in a vm should I try vbox as desktops aren't working there but if an alternate works in vbox might be better for some poeple
[20:48] <gsilva> back
[20:48] <gsilva> krytarik, going to fix it
[20:48] <krytarik> Thanks.
[20:49] <gsilva> can you give me the right links?
[20:49] <gsilva> or replacing 14.04.1 for 14.04.2 will work in the links?
[20:49] <gsilva> Because nobody changed that in the official getlubuntu page/section
[20:50] <krytarik> gsilva: Yep, that.
[20:51] <gsilva> officially done
[20:51] <gsilva> release page is ready
[20:52] <Unit193> gsilva: Can you point development related links to here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs#Live_Chat
[20:52] <gsilva> what do you mena, Unit193 ?
[20:53] <Unit193> gsilva: As in, open that link, look down towards the bottom, it tells you to join development in #lubuntu.
[20:53] <Unit193> Sorry for not being clear.
[20:53] <gsilva> ah, okay
[20:53] <Unit193> krytarik: Shush.
[20:53] <Unit193> :P
[20:53] <gsilva> Sorry missed that yesterday when wxl asked to do something on Wiki
[20:53] <gsilva> Our wiki sucks in terms of organization
[20:54] <gsilva> I'm revising all main pages but will do that asap, Unit193
[20:54] <wxl> you know what you could do, gsilva ? just make a subpage that has the links and include it on all the relevant pages
[20:54] <wxl> like we do with the subteams
[20:54] <Unit193> gsilva: There's a "get support" link already, just add a development one?
[20:54] <gsilva> wxl, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO like that?
[20:56] <gsilva> Who fills in the announcement page?
[20:56] <gsilva> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/15.04
[20:56] <gsilva> That's very similar to the release notes
[20:57] <wxl> doesn't look like much to change gsilva
[20:57] <wxl> just change the versions and make sure the links are right
[20:58] <gsilva> nevermind, was being dumb, lol
[20:58] <wxl> gsilva: look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams how all the sections are included
[20:58] <wxl> or you could include all of the relevant contacts in those and just include them on the appropriate pages
[20:59] <gsilva> I asked someone to help me do the first page, right?
[20:59] <wxl> ianorlin: i checked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/1445818 in precise and i'm pulling down utopic right now. want to see how trusty is?
[20:59] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1445818 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "run dialog called from one desktop opens on the desktop with preferences dialog, regardless of which desktop is current" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:59] <wxl> gsilva: you did?
[20:59] <gsilva> the master page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu+1
[21:00] <gsilva> Wiki going cabum
[21:01] <wxl> it is that time :)
[21:01] <gsilva> Seems so
[21:01] <wxl> ianorlin: also if you added any new bugs in testing, could you put them on the release notes?
[21:02] <wxl> (maybe the touchpad one?)
[21:02] <wxl> might want to shake it first and see if it's truly a lubuntu issue
[21:02] <ianorlin> wxl ah true and a link would be helpful
[21:02] <wxl> y9iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikes
[21:03] <wxl> two red bugs on ubuntu proper
[21:03] <wxl> that's not a good sign
[21:03] <wxl> i smell a rebuild in the future :/
[21:03] <gsilva> Unit193, done
[21:07] <Unit193> Heh, danke.
[21:14] <gsilva> wxl, the announcement that Lubuntu 15.04 is a go is going to be made via which mailing list?
[21:14] <gsilva> I want to make sure I've joined that mailing list before
[21:14] <gsilva> I'm only at admins, wiki-docs-team, brainstorm and that's it
[21:58] <ianorlin> wxl I feel quite exhausted now
[22:09] <wxl> gsilva: are you taking over comms or who is that?
[22:09] <wxl> ianorlin: i know the feeling XD
[22:12] <wxl> run problem doesn't affect utopic
[22:13] <wxl> ianorlin: i see you already did trusty so nm
[22:26] <wxl> we went straight from 0.6.2 to 0.7.1 in vivid on lxpanel
[22:26] <wxl> sorry 0.7.2
[22:59] <wxl> Unit193: re: bug 1445818 do you have any idea how i could downgrade to lxpanel 0.7.2-1ubuntu1? i can get the debs from lp, but lxpanel-data is not included, so it's hard to install.
[22:59] <ubot93> bug 1445818 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "run dialog called from one desktop opens on the desktop with preferences dialog, regardless of which desktop is current" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445818
[23:01] <Unit193> wxl: wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.7.2-1ubuntu1/+build/6768951/+files/lxpanel-data_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_all.deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.7.2-1ubuntu1/+build/6768951/+files/lxpanel-dbg_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.7.2-1ubuntu1/+build/6768951/+files/lxpanel-indicator-applet-plugin_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[23:01] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/0.7.2-1ubuntu1/+build/6768951/+files/lxpanel_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[23:01] <wxl> Unit193: oh so the data file is there even though i didn't see it?
[23:02] <Unit193> wxl: Don't know why you wouldn't.  Also, why ubuntu1?  Not much is different.
[23:02] <Unit193>   * debian/lxpanel.install
[23:02] <Unit193>    - Don't install /usr/share/locale and /usr/share/lxpanel, already installed
[23:02] <Unit193>      in lxpanel-data (LP: #1417244).
[23:02] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1417244 in lxpanel (Ubuntu) "package lxpanel-data (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/lxpanel/xkeyboardconfig/models.cfg', which is also in package lxpanel 0.7.2-1ubuntu1" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1417244
[23:02] <Unit193>   * debian/control:
[23:02] <Unit193>    - Update Replaces and Breaks.
[23:03] <wxl> i hear you
[23:03] <wxl> just trying to narrow down the possibiliities
[23:04] <ianorlin> wait didn't that not install itself
[23:04] <wxl> oic
[23:04] <wxl> it didn't get build for i386
[23:05] <wxl> THAT"S WEIRD
[23:06] <Unit193> No.
[23:21] <wxl> annoyed by which letters to use with tar? fax, man. that's all you need.
[23:23] <Unit193> tar Jcf or jcf, maybe with v will do it.
[23:23] <wxl> or there's the unar package
[23:25] <Unit193> cpio is when it gets more fun.
[23:26] <wxl> !info cpio
[23:26] <ubot93> cpio (source: cpio): GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of files. In component main, is required. Version 2.11+dfsg-2ubuntu1.1 (utopic), package size 76 kB, installed size 328 kB
[23:28] <wxl> oooh
[23:28] <wxl> fancy
[23:29] <Unit193> No. :P