| jderose | is it expected that when doing a vivid encrypted home folder install (ecryptfs), grub should prompt you for a passphrase at boot? | 03:03 |
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| jderose | is this a regression, or have things just changed in terms of how the encrypted swap partition gets unlocked? | 03:03 |
| cyphermox | jderose: no, I don't think you should get prompted on boot for anything when it's for an encrypted home folder. | 03:10 |
| cyphermox | especially since that would break having multiple users with encrypted home folders, unless they shared a password for swap :P | 03:11 |
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| jderose | cyphermox: gotcha, thanks... looking into it now. this was from a System76 "golden imaged" installed under qemu in oem-mode... so seeing if it's an issue on normal installs | 03:12 |
| cyphermox | I may be wrong though -- if it's not working you might want to make sure your image is up to date I guess? | 03:12 |
| jderose | also noticed there were a number of packages marked as auto-removable after this too, so that might be related | 03:12 |
| jderose | cyphermox: i could see entering the passphrase (potentially) making sense when resuming from suspend, but you're right that it really doesn't make sense when cold-booting a potentially multi-user system | 03:16 |
| cyphermox | even if you resume, you have no guarantee the same user is trying to resume, again on a multi-user system | 03:18 |
| jderose | yeah, true | 03:18 |
| cyphermox | not that I expect multi-user to be such a common use case, but still :) | 03:18 |
| jderose | hmm, didn't happen on a normal user install. might be related to my work-around for oem-config-gtk and friends not being installed after doing an oem-mode install | 03:19 |
| jderose | seems like when i `sudo apt-get install ubiquity-frontend-gtk oem-config-gtk` to work around them being missing after doing an oem install from the latest daily iso, i might need to use --no-install-recommends... without it, some suspect looking packages are being drug in | 03:33 |
| tyhicks | jderose: hey - just passing through but, no, there's nothing in Ubuntu proper that would cause you to be prompted at boot for an ecryptfs encrypted home directory | 03:36 |
| jderose | yup, --no-install-recommends seems to solve it. likely there is an underlying bug here, but probably something that will (for most users, even oem install) resolve itself after the next iso build | 03:36 |
| jderose | tyhicks: gotcha, thanks! | 03:37 |
| * jderose now tries a normal user bare-metal install... | 03:40 | |
| jderose | normal user install seems fine... no passphrase prompt from grub, no autoremove-able packages after the install completes | 03:49 |
| tyhicks | good to hear | 03:57 |
| * tyhicks steps away | 03:58 | |
| flexiondotorg | Is world currently being rebuilt? | 06:52 |
| elfy | doesn't appear to be so | 06:52 |
| elfy | we did a rebuild a few ago it seems | 06:53 |
| elfy | still got issues - though hardware does boot and shutdown properly | 06:53 |
| flexiondotorg | flexiondotorg, OK, I'm going to kick a rebuild of Ubuntu MATE then. | 06:53 |
| elfy | vbox fails miserably | 06:53 |
| flexiondotorg | elfy, What issues are most pressing for you? | 06:53 |
| elfy | kvm works as you boot the try from the first menu and not the fancy dialogue | 06:54 |
| flexiondotorg | elfy, I'm aware of VBox falling in a heap on restart. I did some testing to pitti regarding that. | 06:54 |
| flexiondotorg | elfy, That issue about trying a live session from the Ubiquity DM is still there? | 06:54 |
| flexiondotorg | That is why I was going to rebuild, I thought that was fixed. | 06:55 |
| elfy | kvm 32 bit works from the fancy dialogue, 64 bit in kvm from there fails to start desktop | 06:56 |
| flexiondotorg | elfy, OK. Thanks. | 06:56 |
| elfy | I'm not sure if the various fixes infinity was waiting for actually landed or not | 06:56 |
| * flexiondotorg is conflicted. Not sure if a rebuild is wise. | 06:56 | |
| elfy | well - it might be useful if you want to see if you get different fail points I suppose | 06:57 |
| flexiondotorg | elfy, Just got to that place with my thinking. | 06:57 |
| * flexiondotorg is rebuilding. | 06:57 | |
| flexiondotorg | elfy, The powerpc testers has found bugs with partitioning in Ubiquity. Can you do some partitioning tests on x86 to see if this is a general issue? | 06:59 |
| elfy | not now - my little window of checking stuff before work is almost closed - sorry | 06:59 |
| flexiondotorg | elfy, OK. I'll try and do it later too :) | 07:00 |
| elfy | flexiondotorg: actually - any sort of partitioning in live or a particular sort? | 07:02 |
| flexiondotorg | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1446792 | 07:02 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1446792 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity installer crashes during partition" [Undecided,New] | 07:02 |
| elfy | flexiondotorg: looks ok - it's installing after resizing and creating new partition now | 07:13 |
| elfy | well I guess pitti et all will carry on trying to fix this all | 07:22 |
| pitti | I pretty much gave up on vbox | 07:24 |
| elfy | mmm | 07:24 |
| pitti | if you shut down X, the X driver leaves teh graphics cards in a broken state | 07:25 |
| elfy | well I get fails in kvm too | 07:25 |
| pitti | I only see these vertical stripes garbage, and that's it | 07:25 |
| elfy | oh I don't get that - just some text sitting there :) | 07:25 |
| pitti | that doesn't look like something we can fix today (and not me personally, I have no clue about X drivers) | 07:25 |
| pitti | elfy: even with latest casper? | 07:26 |
| elfy | I am at least positive about hardware - that works :) | 07:26 |
| pitti | yep, we are testing real hardware and qemu here with every change | 07:26 |
| elfy | pitti: no idea what casper it is - was expecting a global rebuild overnight - didn't appear to be one, we did a xubuntu one seemingly | 07:27 |
| infinity | elfy: Yeah, global rebuild didn't happen because things ended up trapped in -proposed, and I'm waiting on a last PAM fix. | 07:27 |
| elfy | pitti: well running xubuntu in kvm I get various results | 07:27 |
| elfy | infinity: ack | 07:27 |
| infinity | pitti: Any ideas about the ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts autopkgtest failure? | 07:27 |
| pitti | infinity: not yet; I started a local run, I'll look at it first thing after breakfast | 07:28 |
| pitti | infinity: it seems odd that it started failing on /sbin/initctl yesterday; perhaps a fallback path when the primary code path stopped working | 07:28 |
| elfy | well - real life calls me off to work now - I'll catch up on the fun later | 07:29 |
| flexiondotorg | pitti, I know you've decide to give fixing VirtualBox restarts a pass for 15.04. But what component is the bug actually in? Ubiquity, Casper, etc? | 09:43 |
| flexiondotorg | pitti, I've had a bugs raised against Ubuntu MATE and I want to file it correctly. | 09:43 |
| pitti | flexiondotorg: not sure, virtualbox-guest-x11 perhaps? but I figure we don't have that installed by default, I figure it falls back to some generic -vesa driver or whatever | 09:48 |
| flexiondotorg | pitti, virtualbox-gues-x11 is not installed by default but the dkms moule is part of the kernel package now. | 09:49 |
| flexiondotorg | pitti, This is the squashfs error I am refering too. | 09:49 |
| pitti | flexiondotorg: for that I'd start with casper for now (we don't know the real reason yet, but it's a good place to start) | 09:51 |
| flexiondotorg | pitti, Thanks. | 09:51 |
| Odd_Bloke | I see that the new pam has hit vivid-proposed; when will it migrate? | 10:02 |
| Odd_Bloke | infinity: ^ ? | 10:14 |
| infinity | Odd_Bloke: Ideally soon. | 10:14 |
| rbasak | Looks like the openssh dep8 test failed due to an unrelated timeout. | 10:48 |
| rbasak | Ah, and already rerun and passed this time. Thanks. | 10:49 |
| rbasak | Odd_Bloke: FYI, pam is in the release pocket now. | 10:56 |
| Odd_Bloke | rbasak: Great, thanks! | 10:57 |
| Odd_Bloke | Now we play the waiting (for mirrors) game. | 10:58 |
| rbasak | Your image builds depend on mirrors? | 11:11 |
| Odd_Bloke | We build the base image on the buildds, but then the rest happens on jerff which will hit the mirrors. | 11:15 |
| rbasak | Oh. Waiting for mirrors for images to mirror, rather than for the new pam to mirror. I understand now. | 11:16 |
| infinity | Rebuilding the world now. Hopefully these are final. | 11:58 |
| elfy | infinity: I popped in from work at just exactly the right time to see what was happening it seems :) | 11:59 |
| infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: ^-- This is the vbox upload that you should be able to merge entirely into Debian. | 12:42 |
| Riddell | what's new in these images? | 12:43 |
| infinity | Riddell: Depends on when your last one was. Diffing your manifests would help. | 12:43 |
| infinity | Riddell: At the very least, there's a PAM fix, but might also be ubiquity and other bits. | 12:44 |
| * Riddell plays the pam pam tune on spotify | 12:44 | |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Does the new virtualbox package fix this? -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1434579 | 13:19 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1434579 in virtualbox (Ubuntu) "Unable to install VirtualBox Guest Service in 15.04" [High,Confirmed] | 13:19 |
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| infinity | flexiondotorg: Yes. | 13:38 |
| flexiondotorg | Excellent. Will test. | 13:39 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: There will still be one "useless" item listed, but it will now let you install the x11 driver, which makes it all work. | 13:39 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Great. Many thanks. | 13:39 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | infinity, <3 | 14:12 |
| infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: If you pull that into sid, we'll just sync it back to w-series and kill the ubuntu fork. | 14:13 |
| infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: Should be Debian-friendly, I didn't do anything that would break non-Ubuntu. | 14:13 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | you removed .gitattributes... weir | 14:14 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | d | 14:14 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | should I really drop it? | 14:14 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | -changelog merge=dpkg-mergechangelogs | 14:15 |
| infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: Oh, that's because I build with "dpkg-buildpackage -i -I", which excludes VCS files. | 14:15 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | ack | 14:15 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-virtualbox/virtualbox.git/commit/?id=87db86590cc380594238c9b6746fb0bc278ec244 | 14:18 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | I gave you credits, I hope it is all ok | 14:19 |
| infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: Looks good, though you didn't need to apply the gitattributes removal. Not that it matters to keep it either, I imagine. | 14:20 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-virtualbox/virtualbox.git/commit/?id=28524c4dabd28a27c947eb0bde322272b4729462 | 14:20 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | Already rebased and pushed :) | 14:20 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | I noticed it while posting here | 14:20 |
| * LocutusOfBorg1 wonders if somebody will make him stop using push -f | 14:20 | |
| infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: Shiny. | 14:21 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | infinity, do you plan to do the same for debian? | 14:25 |
| infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: Which? Include the drivers in the kernel? Probably not. But my changes are harmless in that case. | 14:29 |
| infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: The package layout is designed to prefer kernel-provided drivers if they're installed, and dkms if not, so it'll all Just Work. | 14:29 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | yep I know, but having the module provided by the kernel for debian too will avoid many bug reports about problems in building | 14:35 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | when different kernels are used | 14:35 |
| infinity | LocutusOfBorg1: Yeah, would be a conversation to have with the Debian kernel team, but I think they prefer to stick closer to vanilla upstream. | 15:02 |
| LocutusOfBorg1 | so next question, what about asking vbox people to upstream their module? | 15:03 |
| wxl | backlog suggests there's vm probs again? | 15:20 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Do you anticipate that the rebuilds that ran earlier are the last spins before final? | 15:21 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: That's the hope. | 15:22 |
| jderose | when using an encrypted home directory, is anyone getting prompted by a grub- esque dialog to unlock the cryptoswap prior to lightdm coming up? | 15:25 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Great. Looking good for Ubuntu MATE so far :) | 15:26 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, I haven't got to the test case yet. | 15:27 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, Will feedback to you when I do. | 15:27 |
| jderose | flexiondotorg: cool, thanks. it might be related to doing an oem insall, still trying to narrow it down. | 15:29 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, So oem install with encrpyted home is the test case? | 15:31 |
| jderose | not using encrypted home directory during oem-mode install itself, but i'm setting it up during the frist-user-run-config | 15:32 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, Understood. | 15:33 |
| Odd_Bloke | Is that unapproved isc-dhcp anything to worry about? | 15:47 |
| infinity | Odd_Bloke: It'll be an SRU. | 15:50 |
| rbasak | * debian/patches/dhcp-getifaddrs.patch: use getifaddrs | 15:50 |
| rbasak | for getting nic addresses rather than /proc/net (LP: #1446767) | 15:50 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1446767 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu W-series) "dhclient can fail if other nics are renamed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446767 | 15:50 |
| rbasak | Odd_Bloke: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+queue?queue_state=1 to see unapproved stuff if you don't know about that already. | 15:51 |
| Odd_Bloke | rbasak: Aha, thanks! | 15:54 |
| Odd_Bloke | infinity: \o/ | 15:54 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, I've tested on i386 and amd64. I can't reproduce. | 15:58 |
| jderose | flexiondotorg: i haven't been able to reproduce it doing a normal, manual install, so i think it's related to my image mastering tools | 15:59 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, What flavour BTW? | 16:22 |
| jderose | flexiondotorg: ubuntu desktop | 16:23 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, OK. | 16:23 |
| jderose | flexiondotorg: you're testing mate, correct? | 16:24 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, I am. But I just did some testing with stock Ubunut. Will try your test case on stock Ubuntu now. | 16:24 |
| jderose | so far i've only been able to reproduce imaging from our imaging server. there are a number of things i do slightly differently than ubiquity, so it might be one of those differences. like we do gpt partitioning even when the drive is < 2TB | 16:26 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, imaging server? | 16:30 |
| jderose | yeah, the imaging system that System76 uses. which i also wrote... so probably my goof :P | 16:31 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, Ah, so you work for System76? | 16:34 |
| jderose | yup :) | 16:34 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, Nice :) | 16:34 |
| flexiondotorg | jderose, Testsed stock Ubuntu. oem install, first boot encrypted home. All good. | 16:35 |
| jderose | flexiondotorg: yeah, i had the same results. | 16:37 |
| wxl | pitti: is there still another ubiquity fix coming? folks still complaining about bug 1445587 | 16:43 |
| ubot93 | bug 1445587 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Vivid) "Installer hangs after clicking "Restart Now"" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445587 | 16:43 |
| jderose | ah ha, seems like it's related to gpt partitioning. the only thing i changed was to make the imager use mbr partitioning, an now there are no problems | 16:44 |
| jderose | pitti: are you aware of any issues with systemd + encrypted home directory + gpt partitioning? i see a message in syslog from systemd about the cryptoswap failing because of dependencies | 16:45 |
| elfy | wxl: and are you completely sure they have latest image, there are still issues with vbox afaik also | 16:45 |
| wxl | elfy: well they say 20150422.1, so… but yeah, it is vbox | 16:46 |
| elfy | right - from what I've read in logs etc - vbox issue is an issue and will be tomorrow too | 16:47 |
| elfy | but I'm just me obviously | 16:47 |
| pitti | wxl: not right now; on hardware and qemu it seems working fairly well now | 16:47 |
| wxl | pitti: elfy: well, the guy did reference vbox, so | 16:48 |
| elfy | pitti: hardware works for me on both arch's, qemu seems ok, vb hard reboot still | 16:48 |
| infinity | wxl: Yeah, it's still broken in virtualbox, and we're not going to be fixing that for release. | 16:48 |
| teward | infinity: is a fix scheduled at some point? | 16:49 |
| wxl | infinity: i'll request a new bug be filed | 16:49 |
| wxl | teward: did you test recently with vmware? it would be nice to know if it's an issue | 16:50 |
| infinity | teward: That would imply we know why vbox is sad. | 16:50 |
| teward | wxl: not recently, i need an image, hence my asking in -quality if there's been a 'final image' available for download | 16:50 |
| teward | (my prior VM exploded itself) | 16:50 |
| wxl | teward: well we've had about a billion rebuilds, so based on history we may never have a final :) just go grab it! | 16:50 |
| teward | heh | 16:51 |
| pitti | jderose: not aware of that, no | 16:51 |
| teward | wxl: which image, beta 2? | 16:51 |
| teward | or current daily | 16:51 |
| wxl | teward: vivid final. dailies are building currently. | 16:51 |
| pitti | jderose: hang on -- that's ecryptfs, right? | 16:51 |
| wxl | teward: and desktop! not alternate. i've got another issue with it i'm trying to track down at this time. | 16:51 |
| jderose | pitti: i'm still digging into this, but as far as i can tell, it only happens when using gpt partitioning... with mbr partitioning, it works fine | 16:51 |
| pitti | jderose: might that still be bug 953875? | 16:51 |
| ubot93 | bug 953875 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Vivid) "Encrypted swap no longer mounted at bootup" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/953875 | 16:52 |
| pitti | jderose: ok, something else then | 16:52 |
| infinity | wxl: Nothing is building currently... | 16:52 |
| wxl | infinity: well, that's what i meant. | 16:52 |
| pitti | jderose: I have a hunch what's wrong -- maybe the gpt generator saw the underlying incomplete swap partition and tried to activate it | 16:52 |
| teward | wxl: i'd need a link then for the final image, i don't have a link and i don't see one in standard locations. | 16:52 |
| pitti | jderose: but journalctl appreciated | 16:52 |
| wxl | teward: zsync i'm assuming? | 16:53 |
| infinity | teward: Which flavour? | 16:53 |
| teward | wxl: yes. | 16:53 |
| teward | infinity: Lubuntu | 16:53 |
| teward | although I need a zsync for Ubuntu Server as well | 16:53 |
| wxl | teward: amd64? | 16:53 |
| infinity | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20150422/ | 16:53 |
| teward | infinity: thanks | 16:53 |
| infinity | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/20150422/ | 16:53 |
| infinity | ie: where you'd expect. | 16:53 |
| wxl | yeah what he said | 16:53 |
| wxl | until we schedule another rebuild | 16:53 |
| wxl | :)( | 16:53 |
| teward | infinity: i didn't see the date folder when i went through | 16:54 |
| teward | i blame browser cache | 16:54 |
| jderose | pitti: i looked at /etc/fstab, /etc/crypttab, and they seem correct. happen to have instructions somewhere on how best to get you what you need with journalctl? | 16:54 |
| pitti | jderose: do you actually have the intended cryptswap1 partition? | 16:54 |
| jderose | yup | 16:55 |
| pitti | jderose: just its output up to the point when it hangs would be useful | 16:55 |
| pitti | jderose: ok, so the original bug got fixed I guess | 16:55 |
| infinity | wxl: I have no intention of rebuilding anything, but if you need to break just lubuntu, that's your call. | 16:55 |
| jderose | as far as i can tell, yes, but i don't know all the details of that bug | 16:55 |
| wxl | infinity: i was kidding, dear :) | 16:55 |
| infinity | wxl: We're at the point where any bugs found should just be SRUs and mentioned in release notes if they're annoying enough. | 16:55 |
| teward | wxl: as soon as zsync pulls the image down i'll let you know and then go beat it with a stick :) | 16:55 |
| jderose | pitti: oh, also, in case you didn't read back... this issue is that with gpt partitioning i get prompted by a grub-esque/debconf-esque dialog to enter my passphrase to unlock the cryptoswap, prior to lightdm coming up | 16:57 |
| pitti | jderose: hm, that seems unusual; would you mind filing a bug with the defails how you installed, the logs, etc? | 16:58 |
| jderose | so cryptoswap is working correctly, minus the unlock prompt that (afaik) should never be there | 16:58 |
| pitti | need to disappear soon today, I'm afraid | 16:59 |
| pitti | jderose: yeah, I suppose that | 16:59 |
| jderose | yup, will do that shortly | 16:59 |
| pitti | 's a /dev/urandom device | 16:59 |
| pitti | ergo no password | 16:59 |
| pitti | jderose: please attach fstab, crypttab, and output of sudo blkid | 16:59 |
| jderose | k, will do after i isolate the steps to reproduce it a bit better | 17:00 |
| teward | wxl: do you have the bug for the virtualbox issue you now want me to test on a VMware environment? In addition to the shutdown/restart of live bug that was just pinged to me in -quality | 17:00 |
| teward | (I already have the shutdown/restart bug on screen) | 17:00 |
| wxl | teward: that's the one actually | 17:00 |
| teward | heh | 17:00 |
| teward | wxl: specificity is golden, by the way :p | 17:01 |
| teward | i'll check this as soon as zsync is done | 17:01 |
| * wxl moves over to -quality | 17:01 | |
| jamespage | why is oslo.db seeded in desktop and kubuntu? | 17:01 |
| * jamespage scratches his head | 17:01 | |
| jamespage | well it needs fixing | 17:02 |
| infinity | jamespage: It's not on images. | 17:02 |
| jamespage | infinity, good-oh | 17:02 |
| infinity | jamespage: Just in supported, I assume due to build-deps or something. | 17:02 |
| jamespage | righty | 17:02 |
| slangasek | infinity: is it safe for me to do a sync-mirrors right now? (snappy pre-publications) | 17:23 |
| slangasek | infinity, cjwatson: does regeneration of Task fields still require a non-null publication in the release pocket? | 17:45 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: yes, though it can be something trivial like a section override | 17:46 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: I did some work recently which would make that easier to fix, but not complete yet | 17:47 |
| Riddell | meh my kubuntu.org announce leaked onto the rss feed again, sorry :( | 17:47 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: well I happen to have a package that I needed to let out of the unapproved queue, so this will do the trick | 17:51 |
| slangasek | should autopkgtest be unblocked for release? | 18:02 |
| slangasek | I guess it's a safe bet that libreoffice shouldn't ;P | 18:02 |
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| jderose | pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1447282 | 18:18 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1447282 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Prompted for cryptoswap passphrase when using GPT partitioning + encrypted home directory (ecrptfs)" [Undecided,New] | 18:18 |
| jderose | fyi, booting with init=/sbin/upstart seems to reliably work-around the problem | 18:18 |
| kenvandine | please reject ubuntu-system-settings, that should have gone to the overlay ppa | 20:16 |
| cyphermox | kenvandine: too late for that I think | 20:17 |
| Ukikie | dput without dest? | 20:17 |
| cyphermox | well, it's in proposed anyway | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | right | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | Ukikie, no, silo wasn't configured for the overlay ppa | 20:17 |
| cjwatson | it can be removed from -proposed | 20:17 |
| * kenvandine is glad we have proposed :) | 20:18 | |
| cjwatson | can even be copied into the overlay ppa if you want | 20:18 |
| cjwatson | (and if robru is happy with me doing that) | 20:18 |
| kenvandine | cjwatson, i can fix it myself :) | 20:18 |
| kenvandine | thx though | 20:18 |
| robru | cjwatson: kenvandine oh just copying it to the overlay is the easiest thing... | 20:18 |
| cjwatson | well, doing it via citrain entails rebuild+reupload | 20:18 |
| cjwatson | copying way more efficient | 20:18 |
| kenvandine | ok, please copy it :) | 20:18 |
| robru | cjwatson: no need to rebuild, but it is a hassle to change the silo destination and republish | 20:19 |
| cjwatson | ah right | 20:19 |
| cjwatson | anyway, I'll copy+delete | 20:19 |
| robru | cjwatson: yeah if you can copy it that's easiest, thanks a bunch! | 20:19 |
| kenvandine | cjwatson, thanks! | 20:19 |
| kenvandine | robru, i'll be sure to check that column from now on :) | 20:19 |
| robru | kenvandine: thanks | 20:20 |
| kenvandine | i'll go ahead an run the merge job | 20:20 |
| cjwatson | copied and deleted | 20:20 |
| kenvandine | thanks! | 20:20 |
| slangasek | robru: so how did ubuntu-system-settings end up in vivid-proposed instead of the overlay ppa? Are there silos still missing a reconfigure? | 21:42 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: does deleting ubuntu-system-settings from vivid-proposed prevent us from re-copying it to w-proposed from the overlay ppa when w opens? (Since we're meant to sync the lot from the overlay into w) | 21:42 |
| robru | slangasek: because Ken assigned, built, and published the silo himself and he didn't configure for the overlay ppa. | 21:43 |
| slangasek | robru: oh. which makes me realize, we haven't really talked through dual publications for stable-phone-overlay/vivid + w... we probably need to revisit that again | 21:44 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: no | 21:44 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: it's just like resurrecting a deletion using a copy-with-binaries, which we know we can do | 21:44 |
| slangasek | robru: ok. can we make the overlay ppa the default target, please? At least so long as vivid is the default release | 21:44 |
| slangasek | cjwatson: ok | 21:44 |
| robru | slangasek: right, so we still have that dual publishing code, it's a little bit-rotty but it shouldn't be hard to resurrect | 21:44 |
| slangasek | robru: I seem to recall that last time we were dual publishing, we still had some inconsistencies in how we were versioning packages etc | 21:45 |
| slangasek | sorry, when I say "dual publishing" I don't mean just the publishing of one silo to two targets, but the general question of making sure the changes land in both places | 21:46 |
| robru | slangasek: i don't think so? I remember working on the version-mangling code... It injected "~utopic" at the time so the version numbers matched but utopic was always lower | 21:46 |
| slangasek | robru: anyway, it occurs to me that even if we don't want it today, after tomorrow we /do/ want all uploads to the overlay ppa to also land in w-proposed | 21:47 |
| slangasek | at least initially | 21:47 |
| robru | slangasek: the problem is the spreadsheet. I'm not sure i can make cells default to non-blank, and even if i can, it wouldn't distinguish between vivid or others. | 21:48 |
| robru | Eg rtm would also default to overlay, which would explode | 21:48 |
| slangasek | robru: we could change the meaning of an empty cell, and require an explicit 'ubuntu' target to override? | 21:49 |
| robru | slangasek: more spreadsheet code? :-/ | 21:50 |
| slangasek | robru: hmm is that where the code for this lives? well | 21:50 |
| slangasek | robru: let's not worry about it just yet then, maybe kenvandine was a one-off ;) | 21:50 |
| robru | slangasek: well, Jenkins defines "empty dest PPA" to mean Ubuntu archive... | 21:51 |
| slangasek | robru: right, so you could change the definition on the jenkins side instead of on the spreadsheet? | 21:51 |
| robru | slangasek: just would get ugly quick to change it, corner cases etc. | 21:51 |
| robru | slangasek: Hmmmmmmm i suppose. | 21:51 |
| robru | slangasek: i don't think it's necessary, rsalveti already knows, so do mirv and sil and i... Now ken knows, not many other people assign silos | 21:52 |
| robru | slangasek: is it OK to wait and see if it happens again? | 21:53 |
| slangasek | robru: sure | 21:54 |
| robru | slangasek: great, thanks. I can focus on spreadsheet replacement ;-) | 21:54 |
| slangasek | infinity: ill-timed ping | 23:01 |
| slangasek | infinity: ubuntu-core needs an upload of livecd-rootfs to fix a hook that's forcibly removing python from the images. The only change is to an ubuntu-core-specific hook. Can I squeeze this into the archive under the wire, or should I upload it only to the ubuntu-core image ppa? | 23:02 |
| slangasek | infinity: ^^ fyi, self-accepting into -proposed but not unblocking; I'll leave that to your judgement | 23:13 |
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