[06:07] <knightwise> good morning peeps
[07:01] <daftykins> o/
[07:01] <elfy> morning
[07:38] <knightwise> morning
[07:39] <daftykins> http://www.visitguernsey.com/conquer
[07:39] <daftykins> aaaah this looks so much fun but i don't think i can get my bike fixed by Sunday!
[07:43] <MooDoo> now that looks amazing
[07:44] <daftykins> i don't own any safety gear too, mandatory full face!
[07:51] <MooDoo> yeah knee and elbow pads too, but it looks fun
[07:51] <zmoylan-pi> padding for the crossbar might help too :-P
[07:55] <MooDoo> yup had a few issues with that over the kid years lol
[07:55] <daftykins> nah appropriate bikes don't have a crossbar that high up
[07:56] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ixap3kddvynw452/IMG_20130614_025657.jpg?dl=0
[07:56] <daftykins> that's my full suspension one there
[07:57] <MooDoo> nice
[07:57] <zmoylan-pi> you can still break a chain on power acceleration and land on the crossbar using your funzone as a brake
[07:57] <daftykins> it's an XC bike really though
[07:57] <MooDoo> ooooouch
[07:58] <daftykins> hehe yeah, unlikely when going down lotsa steps though
[07:58] <daftykins> more likely to have a tumble :D
[07:58] <zmoylan-pi> but it's the accidents you don't prepare for that happen
[07:58] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/381x758qvwhsvpr/hospital.jpg?dl=0
[07:58] <daftykins> oh i know (:
[08:03] <daftykins> gotta run (ride) ttfn \o
[08:29] <popey> MooDoo: what happened to http://www.paulmellors.net/the-time-has-come/ ?
[08:29] <davmor3> Morning all
[08:30] <davmor3> So funny thing happened last night the internet went pop, I reported it, still dead and their system doesn't know about the outage funny that right grrrrrrrrrrr
[08:30] <knightwise> hey davmor3
[08:32] <foobarry> "this item is  exclusively for Prime members. "
[08:32] <foobarry> amazon are jerks
[08:32] <davmor3> foobarry:thats okay I'm 19 :D
[08:33] <knightwise> anybody else tried telegram via the command line ,
[08:33] <MooDoo> popey: i had an error a min ago deleted most of my posts but not got round to restoring them from the bin  wordpress plugin #fail
[08:37] <davmor3> So glad we bought this mifi for the caravan
[08:42] <zmoylan-pi> better than the scrabble AND the travel scrabble :-)
[08:46] <davmor3> zmoylan-pi:well it has come in useful today, of course I had to sacrifice my phone simcard for the cause but that is a small sacrifice when compared with no interwebz
[08:48] <davmor3> Broadband Good service  and this with a big green tick is a LIE! on the status page the unplanned outage was reported at 20:25 last night and is still out meaning nobody in this area has internet
[08:55] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:59] <bashrc_> morning
[09:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Earth Day! :-D
[09:03]  * foobarry plays with some soil
[09:04] <davmor3> JamesTait: I'm not happy no interwebz
[09:04] <zmoylan-pi> well for above 0 levels of no...
[09:05] <JamesTait> davmor3, IRC via avian carrier?
[09:05] <zmoylan-pi> cannon launched frozen chickens for maximum impact packets
[09:05] <brobostigon> morning JamesTait and bashrc_
[09:06] <JamesTait> brobostigon, o/
[09:07] <davmor3> JamesTait: sacrificed my phone sim into the mifi for internet, it works so I'm happier
[09:08] <popey> davmor3: out of interest, what mifi do you have?
[09:09] <davmor3> popey: unlocked TP-Link M5350
[09:09] <davmor3> popey: from amazon about £35
[09:09] <popey> any good?
[09:10] <davmor3> popey: so far yes
[09:10]  * popey adds to wishlist
[09:12] <davmor3> popey: I only went for 3g cause at the caravan park 4g is spotty at best and non existent at worse.  3g however is rock solid and a full strength signal.
[09:13] <popey> 3g is enough imo
[09:13]  * zmoylan-pi gets by on 2g with opera mini on mobiles
[09:13] <davmor3> popey:I'm going to try it on a hangout after I'll let you know how that goes :)
[09:13] <popey> hah
[09:14] <davmor3> popey: well you can do it on a phone on 3g so I see no reason why I can't :)  I might have to tone the setting down a little we'll see
[09:35] <davmor3> popey: had to turn off HD video other than that seem to be handling it fine :)
[09:47] <davmor2> Yay Interwebz are back
[09:48] <zmoylan-pi> civilisation has been restored... bring on the cat videos....
[09:58] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: pfff cat videos I only have time for those when testing :D
[11:03]  * davmor2 goes back to testing
[11:07] <zmoylan-pi> here, this will save some bandwidth :-) http://www.catgifpage.com/
[11:07] <directhex_> let's see if i can create an ubuntu install usb just by copying the files to a usb stick
[11:10] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: that's awesome :D
[11:10] <zmoylan-pi> my work here is done... :-)
[12:16] <DJones> Ah rubbish, anybody ever heard of a peer to peer networked app that won't actually work across a wireless network, developers claim it'll only run with a wired connection on Windows
[12:17] <jpds> DJones: What kind of protocol is it using?
[12:19] <DJones> carrier pigeon
[12:20] <DJones> Something written in dark ages of Windows 3.0 I think, won't run on a server configured with domains (unless its windows server 2003), will only run if its installed on a standard desktop and everybody else connects to that machine
[12:23] <DJones> Basically an accounts package that has multiple depots, but the depots have to have their own individual instance running at the depot, if head office want to see live data, we have to connect bia logmein to take control of a computer at the depot, it does upload the data overnight to a head office installation, but data is always 24 hours out of date
[12:24]  * zmoylan-pi used a ftp client in dos to link locations like that in 90s :-)
[12:25] <zmoylan-pi> 40 video shops spread across the country with sales numbers for head office
[12:26] <awilkins> DJones, Is it an MTU thing
[12:26] <awilkins> Wireless networks often have a smaller MTU than wired
[12:27] <jpds> Why would an app care about the layers above it.
[12:27] <DJones> awilkins: I've no idea, just a very poor system
[12:27] <awilkins> The "Only runs on a desktop" thing is probably because it has  GUI and depends on UI events to work
[12:29] <zmoylan-pi> or it's using some pre sql wacky database sub system...
[12:29] <DJones> awilkins: Nah, can't even just put the data on the server
[12:29] <awilkins> Heh, been there
[12:29] <awilkins> Interface processes written in VB3 that only run on the desktop of a 32-bit machine
[12:29] <DJones> Looks like it is ftp zmoylan-pi
[12:29] <awilkins> And use Jet 2.5 databases
[12:30] <zmoylan-pi> ah... jet...
[12:30]  * zmoylan-pi casts ward stupidity
[12:32] <DJones> I think it may be written using delphi
[12:33] <zmoylan-pi> and the person has since moved on and noone understands how it works...? :-)
[12:33] <DJones> Not even close, the guy behind it is still at the company
[12:34] <DJones> No matter what we ask, we just get told, no it can't do that
[12:34] <zmoylan-pi> hmmmmmm, when i was asked for an export data option by the mainframe boys i had it written by the time my boss had made it back to his desk :-D
[12:35] <DJones> 3 months more and then we get our own cutom built application by internal developers
[12:38] <DJones> Heh, I'm quite impressed that their base is in a place called "crapstone" though, suits the system perfectly
[12:38] <brobostigon> i have had to temporerily stop pisg on my server, while i sort out some problems on it, so channel stats wont update for abit, to warn everyone.
[15:09] <daftykins> diddledan: psst
[15:09] <daftykins> you up?
[15:57] <zmoylan-pi> say their name 3 times? :-)
[16:00] <daftykins> ;]
[22:22] <ali1234> what does "Ubuntu 15.04 desktop extends leadership of developer experience" mean?
[22:27] <directhex_> it means someone got a bingo on their buzzword bingo card