[00:00] <Rastart> bekks: nice,is there another way? :P
[00:00] <bekks> Rastart: No.
[00:01] <Rastart> !samba
[00:03] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) (AndroUser) In okular, when using the drawing tool I cannot block the tool for making long handwriting Can you try if you can? I thing is somethinh wrong in my computer cause before i could, it started when changing the default stroke color
[00:04] <Rastart> well.thank you for your help guys.bye ;)
[00:05] <MrEikono> thanks for the help guys
[00:05] <user549p20> hi i need help with github
[00:05] <user549p20> where can i be directed?
[00:06] <somsip> user549p20: www.github.com
[00:12] <AndroUser> (AndroUser) (AndroUser) In okular, when using the drawing tool I cannot block the tool for making long handwriting Can you try if you can? I thing is somethinh wrong in my computer cause before i could, it started when changing the default stroke color
[00:20] <Rastart> hello. how to see and manage all the autorun and boot programs and services please?i need both terminal and interface.
[00:22] <Bashing-om> ~
[00:23] <Jordan_U> !upstart | Rastart
[00:24] <Jordan_U> Rastart: Though honestly, since systemd is replacing upstart in the very soon to be released Ubuntu 15.04 you're probably better off learning how to use systemd.
[00:24] <Rastart> !systemd
[00:24] <Rastart> when the 15.04 will be released?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> Rastart: In two days.
[00:27] <Rastart> btw is there some good tutorial on how to use upstart and maybe some advanced tricks on boot and autorun programs  and  services management?
[00:28] <Rastart> i think that my ubuntu got too many functions i don't really need.
[00:28] <Rastart> i'm sure about that and i don't want no more to have to deal with this.
[00:29] <Rastart> it's a problem for me and i'm searching for a solution.
[00:29] <daftykins> so install from mini.iso and then just install desktop components instead of the full suite.
[00:29] <Rastart> i had some boot problems some months ago
[00:29] <daftykins> or run a distribution which is more geared toward minimalists such as yourself
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Rastart: In my personal opinion, upstart is very unintuitive to use. Systemd make much more sense to me, and is much more well documented. Systemd also tries to start only what's needed, when it's needed, whereas Upstart's model is to try to start anything it can as soon as it can (needed or not). In that way, systemd sounds more like what you want, and you in 2 days you can upgrade and get it.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Rastart: I also totally second daftykins' suggestion of starting with the minimal installer if you really want a minimal system. It will let you install exactly what you want, and nothing else. Note however that it does still default to installing the full Ubuntu desktop (if I recall correctly) so pay attention to the menus while installing.
[00:32] <daftykins> you'd have to ignore tasksel and just go via manual package installation, yeah
[00:33] <Rastart> daftykins: truth is that i always found linux too complicated so i always feel like a newbie...it is always been difficult for me to find the correct path or a method to learn all things i need to know..i like computer stuffs yeah but linux is always really hard for me to understand even if i'm not bad at doing everything i need with windows with linux i feel really..dumb. :(
[00:34] <daftykins> well i don't even run desktop and stick to servers :)
[00:34] <Rastart> but i like minimalism...i'm a positive person and i only would like to feel safe cause i don't understand linux the same way i don't understand world.
[00:35] <enigmaOQD> niñas follando >> http://www.joserro1.5gbfree.com/?p=205
[00:36] <Rastart> but i like to learn i really like to.but with linux i never found the how to for learning..except for ubuntu irc channel
[00:36] <Wug> Rastart: upstart is poorly documented, and also not finished
[00:37] <Wug> some glorious day it will replace cron, but today is not that day
[00:37] <daftykins> Rastart: you often need a task to set for yourself for how to learn, there's a free intro course on edx.org though that i'd recommend going through.
[00:37] <daftykins> it's called LFS101x
[00:37] <daftykins> Jordan_U: looks like we have a spammer needing ejecting ^
[00:38] <Jordan_U> daftykins: Thanks.
[00:39] <daftykins> np :)
[00:39] <Rastart> it's like linux is full of knowledge but doesn't want to let me in to allow me understand its secrets..and ignorance may turn you into someone else's bitch you know how world is i don't have to explain or to hide.
[00:39] <DalekSec> Wug: Have you never seen http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/?
[00:39] <Rastart> i want this to be my computer and not someone else.
[00:40] <gingermouse> Rastart: Try to keep the language clean, please. =)
[00:41] <Rastart> gingermouse: Sorry =)
[00:41] <Wug> DalekSec: maybe, i dont know. I haven't had to do anything with it in a while
[00:41] <Wug> DalekSec: the problem I have with linux utilities is they all expect me to read the entire 600 page manuscript detailing every little feature
[00:42] <DalekSec> Wug: I wouldn't call that "poorly documented" exactly, and table of contents helps.
[00:42] <Wug> there is no abbreviated "ok so you want to start a program at boot time, heres an example" section for people who don't want to spend 5 hours reading it all
[00:43] <Wug> it is poorly documented. not poorly documented as in insufficient content, but as in useless organization
[00:44] <Wug> that said, i dont know if i saw the upstart cookbook. is it indexed by google? that's how i tend to find things
[00:44] <Rastart> I like ubuntu cause it's a community that is meant to be made by users
[00:45] <Wug> it is certainly nice that when I find a problem with something, I can hop on freenode, join #[program name], and check if it's a bug
[00:45] <Rastart> the ubuntu irc support is great. but irc need advanced knowledges about network too.
[00:46] <daftykins> IRC networks?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> Rastart: In addition to irc, there are 3 other venues of support for ubuntu specifically . ubuntuforums, askubuntu and Ubuntu Discourse .
[00:48] <Rastart> well when you're in the net and you don't have a good net configuration you might not know or not care but if you do you can't feel really safe in irc.
[00:49] <Wug> im not too worried about it
[00:49] <Wug> this isn't efnet. this is society, we have rules
[00:50] <Rastart> but you can't believe all people are good it is statistically impossible. we don't live in a perfect world unluckily.
[00:50] <Rastart> :P
[00:51] <ramrebol> Hi. I'm from America (and ubuntu user since several years), how can I get an ubuntu phone?
[00:52] <Rastart> i had my computer completely fucked in past.cause my knowledge was not good enough.
[00:52] <xangua> !language | Rastart
[00:52] <Rastart> oh sorry it is not my fault :( i talk like this in rl cause i'm cool
[00:52] <daftykins> i think you'd best take the non-support queries of general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic now, Rastart
[00:53] <Rastart> well not so cool. :P
[00:54] <Rastart> daftykins: oh thank you.and sorry all guys i didn't want to bother here with non-tech speaking.
[00:57] <Rastart> and honestly i'm not the guy who break rules of a community he always tough it's good.
[00:58] <Rastart> thank you ubuntu support.
[00:59] <EriC^> !touch | Rastart might be useful
[01:11] <Windowsaurians> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Would-You-Give-Up-on-Windows-7-and-Install-Windows-8-If-It-Were-Free-478978.shtml
[01:12] <ryan_46> ramrebol, Information about Ubuntu phone in /j #ubuntu-touch
[01:13] <idobrt> olá boa noite. Estou com um problema no wireless do unbutu 14.04 que fica caindo toda hora. Já tentei várias soluções na net e n obtive sucesso. Alguém ai sabe como resolver? uso um modem wireless usb
[01:15] <xangua> !pt | idobrt
[01:20] <azizLIGHT> what does this message about upgrades mean: http://i.imgur.com/3heNvgV.png
[01:20] <azizLIGHT> im on 14.04 and dont want to upgrade until next lts
[01:20] <azizLIGHT> does partial upgrade mean go to 14.10 or 15.04
[01:21] <ramrebol> ryan_46: thanks for the information !
[01:21] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: could be your PPAs ruining things. run command line utilities for more info. updates != upgrades between versions
[01:21] <xangua> azizLIGHT: have you actually read the message? do you use third party repositories?
[01:23] <azizLIGHT> yeah but it says "partial upgrade" and doesnt upgrade mean next ubuntu version
[01:23] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, try sudo apt-get update, give us the output
[01:23] <kostkon> !paste
[01:23] <ryan_46> ramrebol,  You are welcome
[01:23] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, sorry, i meant   sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:23] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: no, an upgrade is installing latest packages
[01:24] <azizLIGHT> i have some ppa xangua
[01:24] <MannyLNJ> Help. I had a dual boot Ubuntu, windows 8 system.  I shrunk Windows 8 so i can add windows 7 and then I lost Ubuntu. I followed an online guide and now I lost all 3 operating systems. I am running off a live usb and it does show 3 drives. how can I fix my problem?
[01:24] <azizLIGHT> !pastebinit
[01:25] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: so not even 8 boots right now?
[01:26] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: correctr no OS is found when i power on the laptop
[01:26] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: enter the EFI setup and check 'Windows Boot Manager' is the default boot choice, that should at least restore 8 if it's available.
[01:26] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, probably some of your packages come with new dependencies and as a result a partial upgrade is needed to install them
[01:27] <jj3124> Hi all, I'm struggling to find the correct drivers for my GPU. It is a Sapphire Radeon HD 3650 512MB. Anyone have any idea where I'd start to look?
[01:27] <azizLIGHT> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864202/
[01:27] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: If EFI is like the BIOS there is no option for Windows Boot Manager. This is an ideapad z560
[01:27] <daftykins> jj3124: you can only use the 'radeon' open source driver that should be in use as default, your card is too old for anything else.
[01:28] <jj3124> daftykins: D'oh! Okay, thank you! I was told the proprietarys suck, but if there's no other options I guess I'm boned.
[01:28] <daftykins> jj3124: yeah AMD dropped HD 4xxx and below
[01:28] <jj3124> Dang, well I appreciate the quick response
[01:28] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, probably you are using a ppa that has something to do with providing you with the multimedia stuff?
[01:28] <daftykins> no problem :)
[01:28] <kostkon> latest*
[01:28] <jj3124> In that case, where is a good place to find a cheap prebuilt computer capable of running Source games :P
[01:28] <azizLIGHT> i think i installed a ppa for ffmpeg
[01:29] <Bashing-om> jj3124: There are none, as AMD dropped support for that series of cards. - Release 12.04.1 ... emphasis on 1 - still has the xserver that AMD supported .
[01:29] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: I think I need to rebuild GRUB from the live usb but I'm not sure
[01:29] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, it's up to you now, either disable the ppa, purge it or go ahead anyway. It won't upgade your ubutnu, just those pacakges
[01:29] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: mmm, show us a "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" (you'll need to install pastebinit)
[01:29] <azizLIGHT> kostkon: im not getting what the issue is
[01:30] <azizLIGHT> and what is a partial ugprade
[01:30] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: i've said like 3 times, what is the problem D:
[01:30] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: alrady installed it when i joined the channel.  let me open a term and get the result
[01:30] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: how about a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[01:30] <azizLIGHT> i dont really understand it
[01:30] <azizLIGHT> i dont want to change from 14.04
[01:31] <azizLIGHT> just yet
[01:31] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864209/
[01:31] <daftykins> dist-upgrade _DOES NOT_ upgrade version
[01:31] <azizLIGHT> so what does then?
[01:31] <azizLIGHT> im confused
[01:32] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: run it and pastebin the output
[01:32] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | azizLIGHT
[01:32] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, it's called a partial upgrade before it does more than updating your already installed pacakges
[01:32] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: hrmm i don't see an ubuntu / partition at all, just a swap partition
[01:33] <azizLIGHT> !upgrade
[01:33] <azizLIGHT> so apt-get upgrade does what
[01:33] <daftykins> installs new packages.
[01:33] <MannyLNJ> daftykins:  You are right but trust me I had Ubuntu on it.
[01:34] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, upgrade updates your pacakges, dist-upgrade performs partial upgrades, do-release-upgrade upgrades your ubuntu version
[01:34] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: sure, i just thought you meant you lost the boot option. erk! i think you need to start from scratch really
[01:34] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: looks like a non-EFI installation too
[01:34] <azizLIGHT> so the diff between upgrade and dist-upgrade, is that, upgrade puts new versions of already installed software, and dist-upgrade puts new versions of already installed software and removes something? what does it remvoe
[01:34] <MannyLNJ> daftykins:  I think somehow I installed Ubuntu onto one one the NTFS partitions. is that possible?
[01:35] <azizLIGHT> kostkon: ok i get release upgrade bit now
[01:35] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, either removes or adds(installs) new pacakges
[01:35] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: nah, the file system doesn't support Linux distros
[01:35] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: Wait I bet the 200GB extended with no FS is where Ubunto lives and when io was trying to fix the booting issie I messed up the file system
[01:36] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: yeah - 196GB / lurking there perhaps
[01:36] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: if you don't have any data to recover i'd just start again i think
[01:36] <azizLIGHT> daftykins: heres dist-upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864224/
[01:37] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, ok it's gnna remove a pacakge that's why you got the partial upgrade prompt/window
[01:37] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: seems good, you see libvlccore7 is being replaced with ...8
[01:37] <daftykins> yeah looks like VLC was trying to keep itself to a prior version
[01:37] <azizLIGHT> hm ok. so why dont people just do dist-upgrade all the time?
[01:37] <kostkon> azizLIGHT, and as daftykins said replace it with a new pcakge
[01:37] <MannyLNJ> daftykins:  Here is my problem. this USB drive boots the live version with no problem but installs fail with errors. i have no other system to use for a week and would like to not have to rely on a live image until then. also I need to boot into win dows 8 for some software that doesn' exist in Linux
[01:37] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: i do.
[01:38] <azizLIGHT> ill do dist-upgrade now. thanks for advice
[01:38] <azizLIGHT> and also autoremove, right?
[01:38] <azizLIGHT> does it matter the order
[01:38] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: ok, run gparted and try removing the boot flag from partition 3 (sda3) and adding it to sda1
[01:38] <daftykins> azizLIGHT: nope
[01:39] <jj3124> Hey thanks again for your help guys.
[01:39] <jj3124> Have a great night
[01:39] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: can i ignore Glib_CRITICAL errors?
[01:39] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: what are prompting those?
[01:39] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: when I did sudo gparted
[01:40] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: Missing source id's
[01:40] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: oh don't do that. you don't run GUI apps with sudo
[01:41] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: ok I figured out where to run it from
[01:41] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: I see Win 8 is /dev/sda2 and win 7 is /dev/sda3
[01:42] <daftykins> MannyLNJ: yip
[01:42] <daftykins> but set the boot flag on sda1
[01:42] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: setting /dev/sda1 as bootable
[01:43] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: Can i reboot now?
[01:43] <daftykins> if you also removed it from sda3 yep
[01:44] <daftykins> might be safer powering off, remove the flash drive, then power on and see if anything boots
[01:44] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: It is remolved from sda3 which has a lock icon
[01:44] <MannyLNJ> daftykins: shutting dow.
[01:51] <netameta> i am installing ubuntu on virtual box, now to fix the window size problem it seems i need virtualbox-guest-x11 but when i do apt-get install  virtualbox-guest-x11 i get this error: some packages could not be installed. this may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you .....
[01:52] <daftykins> we await your pastebins describing the situation, netameta :)
[01:52] <netameta> daftykins waht ?
[01:52] <daftykins> !paste
[01:53] <daftykins> netameta: show us :)
[01:53] <netameta> daftykins i dont have anything to show you
[01:53] <netameta> i ren the command
[01:53] <netameta> and got that error
[01:53] <netameta> i am not sure what you want me to pastbin
[01:54] <daftykins> oy vey.
[01:54] <daftykins> do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first off then
[01:55] <netameta> Alrighty
[01:55] <netameta> update done
[01:55] <checkit> q
[01:55] <checkit> exit
[01:55] <checkit> q
[01:55] <checkit> host
[01:55] <daftykins> "/quit"
[01:56] <daftykins> netameta: this might be better to follow - http://askubuntu.com/questions/451805/screen-resolution-problem-with-ubuntu-14-04-and-virtualbox
[01:58] <netameta> daftykins exactly what i am following
[01:58] <netameta> utils and dkms worked fine
[01:58] <netameta> x11 -- the rror
[01:58] <daftykins> they might well be sufficient?
[01:59] <MannyL> daftykins:  That worked. Both windows os boot now
[01:59] <daftykins> MannyL: huzzah \o/
[01:59] <daftykins> *smug mode*
[01:59] <daftykins> MannyL: any data on the missing ubuntu you need?
[02:00] <daftykins> netameta: ah it looks like -utils and -x11 are options perhaps
[02:00] <MannyL> daftykins: now can I install Ubuntu WITHOUT using the install image on the flash drive? I don't mind reinstalling from scratch. There is no essential data on that partition
[02:00] <daftykins> MannyL: perhaps redownload an ISO, hash check it, then remake your flash drive to ensure it won't give errors?
[02:01] <daftykins> make sure you boot the flash drive in non-EFI mode too
[02:02] <MannyL> daftykins: I don't have an option for EFI or non EFI. I guess I can boot back to windows and make a new USB image there.
[02:02] <daftykins> sounds like a plan
[02:02] <daftykins> Universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com gets my vote
[02:04] <netameta> well this is extremly weird
[02:04] <daftykins> hrmm?
[02:05] <netameta> it wont install it
[02:05] <netameta> Well i am going to restart it
[02:05] <netameta> how do you restart ubuntu safly ?
[02:06] <daftykins> can you not see the normal GUI items for restart?
[02:06] <daftykins> sudo shutdown -r 0 is fine
[02:06] <netameta> Sure can
[02:06] <rgb-one> netameta: fix window problem? what do you mean?
[02:06] <netameta> but never used ubuntu before
[02:07] <Qwertie> Is there a package for ffmpeg in the ubuntu repos?
[02:07] <daftykins> i was under the impression avconv replaced ffmpeg ages ago
[02:07] <rgb-one> netameta: If you mean you want the screen to auto resize when you adjust it then you need virtualbox guest additions.
[02:08] <daftykins> rgb-one: if you read up, you'd see that's what the installation of is being discussed :)
[02:08] <netameta> rgb-one, i am trying to install them but not getting anything
[02:08] <dant2> So this is kinda a Windows question but I am not sure. I installed windows as a dual boot on my 2nd HD of my PC, and now I cant boot my backup partition (Or any partition) from windows. But the data is all there using ubuntu. Anybody have a clue what is up with that?
[02:09] <netameta> is this the right command rgb-one ? sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms \ virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11
[02:09] <daftykins> dant2: so Windows *after* Ubuntu, now Ubuntu doesn't boot?
[02:10] <daftykins> dant2: "boot my backup partition from Windows" sadly does not make any sense
[02:10] <rgb-one> netameta: No. Install the guest additions from the virtualbox menu of the running vm
[02:10] <dant2> daftykins, Both Ubuntu and Windows boot, but my storage partition (1700GB of 2TB for storage, the rest is just ubuntu) no longer will mount under windows.
[02:10] <daftykins> aaaah.
[02:10] <daftykins> dant2: which OS are you in now?
[02:10] <dant2> dant2, Currently booted into Windows8 writing a school paper
[02:11] <dant2> daftykins, I mean not myself
[02:11] <daftykins> dant2: if you run "diskmgmt.msc" by pressing super+R how does that partition appear? any issues?
[02:12] <dant2> daftykins, Yeah I ran that and I just see it as a huge raw partition
[02:12] <daftykins> uh-oh
[02:12] <daftykins> i had a feeling it would be so, raw is a very bad sign
[02:12] <daftykins> something has nuked that
[02:12] <rgb-one> netameta: Look in the Device Menu and click "Insert Guest Additions CD Image..."
[02:13] <netameta> done that now it says press return to close this window
[02:13] <dant2> daftykins, now that I think about it every boot I get some weird errors, but it never stopped anything from working so I ignored it. What exactly does Raw mean here?
[02:14] <netameta> not sure which key is return
[02:14] <rgb-one> netameta: You clicked "Download" right
[02:14] <rgb-one> ?
[02:14] <rgb-one> netameta: Return is the Enter Key
[02:14] <netameta> i clicked devices -> inset -> and followed from there
[02:15] <daftykins> dant2: dead. no recognisable file system
[02:15] <rgb-one> netameta: Alright click the enter key
[02:15] <netameta> and rebooting now
[02:15] <dant2> daftykins, But it still shows up in ubuntu, I havent tried reading anything from it but I assume it works.
[02:15] <daftykins> i doubt it.
[02:16] <daftykins> until you boot into ubuntu and can run some commands to confirm, we can't progress
[02:16] <dant2> Sure, saving my paper now and about to reboot
[02:16] <netameta> rgb-one. daftykins, thanks folks
[02:16] <netameta> works
[02:17] <rgb-one> netameta: cool
[02:17] <netameta> now just need to learn how to use ubuntu :-)(
[02:18] <daftykins> \o/
[02:18] <Bashing-om> netameta: ^^ Time and effort will fix that , Hang in here .
[02:18] <anonymous__> hello boys
[02:19] <daftykins> and girls
[02:19] <dant2_2> daftykins, Ok I am rebooting now. Had to get onto IRC on my laptop
[02:19] <kostkon> !manual
[02:20] <daftykins> dant2_2: once you get there, "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and share the link here
[02:20] <daftykins> bonus points for making it a clickable link
[02:20] <netameta> well i have about a year and half experiance through terminal use of ubunutu but never actually installed it
[02:20] <netameta> daftykins
[02:21] <netameta> you're a girl ?
[02:21] <netameta> And you used oy vey
[02:21] <daftykins> nah i just think it's not right to assume everyone's male :)
[02:22] <somsip> !girl | netameta
[02:22] <[n0mad]> bahaha
[02:22] <[n0mad]> they've just thought of everything
[02:22] <netameta> Yea i had some insident in node.js with same thing calling everyone guys
[02:24] <daftykins> i like to think of 'guys' as gender neutral, so there's that
[02:24] <daftykins> anywho back to topic
[02:25] <netameta> we had a topic ?
[02:25] <dant2_2> I was actually sitting here worrying about everything derailing, because god can gender derail a conversation anytime, anywhere
[02:25] <netameta> Just a little general question about ubuntu, the terminal  and gui are tied to eachother right ?
[02:26] <daftykins> err, in what way?
[02:26] <netameta> so if i apt-get install something i could somehow get it to show in guy
[02:26] <dant2_2> daftykins, So that command seems to freeze up, I do get the error "Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!"
[02:26] <daftykins> the GUI is just an application
[02:26] <TiK> I have java install but can't get mindcraft to see it
[02:26] <netameta> Say i want to install chrome, i assume i will have to apt-get chome..something
[02:26] <dant2_2> daftykins, Also the partition still boots in Ubuntu oddly enough
[02:27] <daftykins> netameta: it's actually not available in the repos since Google make it, so you need to download the .deb from them which... ironically installs a package repository then installs the browser.
[02:27] <daftykins> chrome is overrated though.
[02:27] <TiK> I like firefox
[02:27] <daftykins> dant2_2: partitions do not boot, booting is solely the act of an OS starting up on a system :)
[02:27] <daftykins> 'mount' is the word you're looking for here
[02:27] <dant2_2> daftykins, Oops, yeah.
[02:28] <daftykins> dant2_2: is there any important data you need on this mythical partition?
[02:28] <TiK> can anyone help me with minecraft?
[02:28] <SchrodingersScat> TiK: how did you install java?
[02:28] <rgb-one> netameta: you can get chromium from the repos which is the testbed for googlechrome
[02:28] <netameta> i see and i will have to do that though terminal right ?
[02:29] <netameta> after i do it though terminal will it be avialble in guy ?
[02:29] <rgb-one> netameta: you can use the software center
[02:29] <netameta> this terminal / gui kinda confuse me
[02:29] <daftykins> what is "guy" ?
[02:29] <SchrodingersScat> presumably gui
[02:29] <dant2_2> daftykins, Not really. Although this drive is also where Ubuntu is installed, but I am certain removing this partition shouldnt break Ubuntu
[02:29] <dant2_2> daftykins, Or at least I imagine
[02:29] <daftykins> dant2_2: nah not unless it's set to automount in /etc/fstab
[02:29] <netameta> daftkins what you mean guy ?
[02:30] <daftykins>  netameta> after i do it though terminal will it be avialble in guy ?
[02:30] <daftykins> yeah, what do YOU mean 'guy' ? :D
[02:30] <harris> hey
[02:30] <netameta> Ah..
[02:30] <netameta> gui
[02:30] <netameta> crap
[02:30] <netameta> sorry
[02:30] <daftykins> hehe np
[02:30] <daftykins> harris: hi
[02:30] <harris> daftykins, !!!
[02:30] <daftykins> oh-emm-gee daftyyyyy
[02:30] <daftykins> wait, wat
[02:30] <harris> ltns
[02:31] <harris> how do i make programs open at my mouse location
[02:32] <dant2_2> daftykins, So what exactly is the best way to fix this partition? Or should I just delete it.
[02:32] <TiK> SchrodingersScat: cool nick uh I installed the jre for openjdk but I think i need the SE
[02:32] <daftykins> you could fiddle with it in gparted, or just delete and recreate
[02:33] <daftykins> dant2_2: i was hoping to get an incling as to what is wrong from parted though
[02:33] <netameta> ./configure --prefix-/usr -just tell it to install in /user right ?
[02:33] <rgb-one> netameta: With the terminal you are specifying instructions in the form of commands which are executed in order to perform a certain task. This is in contrast to a GUI where you click a button and the task gets performed automatically.
[02:34] <netameta> rgb-one, so basically they both do the same thing just in different form ?
[02:34] <harris> how do i make programs open at my mouse location
[02:34] <daftykins> the GUI makes the hard stuff easy, the CLI makes the impossible possible
[02:34] <dant2_2> daftykins, paste.ubuntu.com/10864362/
[02:35] <dant2_2> daftykins, It also seems I never deleted OSX from when I was tribooting
[02:35] <daftykins> aww non-clickable, bonus points lost
[02:35] <SchrodingersScat> TiK: thought jre should be enough, but also how did you install it?  nothing when you java -version #?
[02:35] <daftykins> dant2_2: oh dear you're using intel fakeRAID?
[02:36] <dant2_2> daftykins, I guess? I set up raid using my motherboard and installed afterwards
[02:36] <daftykins> messy
[02:37] <daftykins> hrmm so which is the one we're talking about?
[02:37] <dant2_2> daftykins, UNTITLED 2 (Number 5)
[02:37] <dant2_2> On the 2TB disk
[02:37] <TiK> SchrodingersScat: i get 2 versions of java when i --version it
[02:37] <daftykins> FAT32 1.5TB, yeah that's - not gonna work well
[02:38] <rgb-one> netameta: With one (directly interfacing on the command line through the terminal), you have control over what instructions are being performed as you type them explicitly; with the other (the GUI) you are restricted in what you can do because the application you are using handles performing the task you would otherwise perform at the command line.
[02:38] <dant2_2> daftykins, Fat32 was the only FS that Windows, Linux, and OSX Yosemite all liked.
[02:38] <netameta> rgb-one, and daftkins again thanks very much for clarifying makes more sense now
[02:38] <daftykins> yeah, exFAT would've been better
[02:39] <daftykins> dant2_2: i think i'd open gparted and kill the HFS+ partitions then, and this one - then recreate a single exFAT
[02:39] <dant2_2> daftykins, For some reason exFAT wasnt working for me, no clue why. But it doesnt matter now I dont triboot anymore.
[02:40] <dant2_2> daftykins, Sure sounds good. I will just back up my few files first I guess. Will that get rid of my boot errors?
[02:40] <dant2_2> daftykins, Although I guess you dont even know what the errors are.
[02:40] <daftykins> i had this recently, if you create it from Windows you have to use a 1024KB cluster size for macs to read it
[02:40] <daftykins> heh, nah i do not :D
[02:43] <dant2_2> daftykins, Any clue why macs need a 1024KB cluster size?
[02:43] <rgb-one> netameta: To give an example `sudo apt-get install chromium` would be the command you type in the terminal to install the Chromium Web Browser. You could alternatively install it from the Sofware Centre (a GUI application) by searching for chromium and clicking install in which case the application would perform the `sudo apt-get install chromium` command. To be clear, the terminal is an interface to the command line. You know cmd prompt from Windows? The
[02:43] <rgb-one> terminal is the equivalent.
[02:43] <daftykins> their implementation must just have issues with the Windows 7 default of 4,096KB
[02:44] <daftykins> i recovered some data for someone and provided it on an exFAT drive, knowing they own Macs - but was surprised to hear it didn't mount
[02:44] <daftykins> format with 1,024KB... perfect
[02:45] <dant2_2> So weird. Also is the error when starting Gparted "Cant have a partition outside the disk" something I should worry about?
[02:45] <daftykins> it indicates something is out of whack, but doesn't sound like it really points at what
[02:46] <dant2_2> Kinda feel like I should just reinstall, I had no clue how many old partitions and crap I had. And it seems like I screwed something up at some point.
[02:46] <daftykins> whatever you do - copy that darn paper off onto an external of some kind first ;)
[02:47] <daftykins> maybe just live with it until your work is done
[02:47] <daftykins> assuming you have deadlinse approaching
[02:47] <daftykins> deadlines too
[02:47] <dant2_2> Yeah will do, luckily Windows is on my Raid Ubuntu is on its own drive.
[02:47] <TiK> Question: how do i remove a package i couldn't install ? E: The package jre1.8.0-45 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[02:47] <dant2_2> daftykins, my boot error says something about the disk drive for /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 or something like that
[02:48] <daftykins> oh that's normal when attempting an encrypted install i think
[02:48] <daftykins> TiK: dpkg -r <package> ?
[02:48] <TiK> daftykins: 1sec
[02:49] <TiK> can I PM you?
[02:49] <TiK> got a few lines of text here
[02:49] <daftykins> no use the paste site
[02:49] <TiK> thats why i asked :P
[02:50] <TiK> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864407/
[02:51] <daftykins> TiK: "sudo dpkg -r --force-all <package>"
[02:52] <cluelessperson> Question, I made a git user as a system account
[02:52] <cluelessperson> then deleted it
[02:52] <cluelessperson> now I'm trying to make a regular user, git, and it's telling me the account is locked
[02:52] <cluelessperson> I tried   sudo passwd -l git  but it's still locked
[02:53] <TiK> daftykins: nope 1 sec
[02:53] <daftykins> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68793/how-do-i-unlock-a-user-account
[02:53] <TiK> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864417/
[02:54] <netameta> is there a way to check if i have JDK installed ?
[02:54] <TiK> daftykins: it tried to reinstall
[02:54] <cluelessperson> netameta, java -version  ?
[02:54] <TiK> netameta: java --version
[02:55] <daftykins> "javac" would run if you had a JDK :)
[02:55] <TiK> daftykins: any ideas about this?
[02:55] <daftykins> TiK: mmm, did you get this from a PPA originally? like from oracle
[02:55] <netameta> jSo i have none installed
[02:55] <TiK> daftykins: i downloaded the RPM and used alien to make it a deb then installed said deb but it failed and now i can't remove it
[02:55] <netameta> lets see how i get one
[02:56] <TiK> netameta: apt-cache search JRE
[02:56] <TiK> there are 3 or 4
[02:56] <netameta> i need JDK not JRE
[02:56] <daftykins> TiK: sweet mother of Tux, why on earth would you do such a thing O_O
[02:56] <TiK> daftykins: cuz the stupid repo doesn't offer sun java anymore
[02:56] <TiK> oracle even
[02:56] <netameta> TiK i guess i shoud change it to search JDK
[02:56] <daftykins> never did, you have to add their repo for that
[02:57] <TiK> no you can download from their site
[02:57] <TiK> no repo
[02:57] <daftykins> yeah but repos are better than debs
[02:57] <TiK> true
[02:57] <TiK> id love to have sun in the repos
[02:57] <daftykins> anyway, that script errors as it says /usr/sbin/alternatives doesn't exist - so you could try creating it
[02:57] <daftykins> to cheat it
[02:58] <TiK> do what now?
[02:58] <daftykins> well look at your paste, the error on line 7...
[02:58] <TiK> tik@tik-laptop:~$ whereis alternatives
[02:58] <TiK> alternatives: /etc/alternatives
[02:58] <daftykins> so create /usr/sbin/alternatives so it has something to remove :D
[02:58] <TiK> wonder if it is trying to find that
[02:58] <cluelessperson> I'm trying to create the regular user git   but it says the account is Locked? !
[02:59] <cluelessperson> I tried unlocking it with sudo passwd -l git
[02:59] <daftykins> cluelessperson: scroll up to my link
[02:59] <cluelessperson> but no dice
[02:59] <cluelessperson> daftykins, oh sorry
[02:59] <cluelessperson> looking
[02:59] <daftykins> also note it was a google result.
[03:00] <daftykins> i think you need to try some self research in future :)
[03:00] <TiK> daftykins: how do i make a sym link to /etc/alternatives
[03:00] <cluelessperson> daftykins, another command  sudo passwd -l user   is supposed to the same thing supposedly
[03:00] <cluelessperson> maybe that just locks though
[03:01] <daftykins> follow the page :)
[03:01] <cluelessperson> daftykins, regardless, thanks
[03:01] <daftykins> TiK: i don't think that's a good idea because it's going to be removed, just put a file or directory in /usr/sbin/
[03:01] <jmadero_> hi all - I have a Lenovo Y530 that I'm trying to get to boot from USB and it just refuses
[03:01] <daftykins> tried all USB ports?
[03:02] <daftykins> fully formatted the flash drive before loading up the ISO? how was it created?
[03:02] <jmadero_> daftykins: when in Windows it sees the USb drive
[03:02] <jmadero_> daftykins: fully formatted, two separate USB
[03:02] <jmadero_> one unetbootin, the other startup disk creator
[03:02] <jmadero_> both fail, but work in another system
[03:02] <daftykins> hrmm
[03:02] <jmadero_> daftykins: exactly, got my father in law all excited about Ubuntu
[03:02] <daftykins> universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com gets my vote, but yeah if it works elsewhere the drive must be ok
[03:03] <jmadero_> he installed on his main system now wants on his laptop
[03:03] <daftykins> jmadero_: i take it the thing came with Windows 8?
[03:03] <jmadero_> daftykins: the USB port is an interesting idea
[03:03] <jmadero_> daftykins: no it's quite old
[03:03] <jmadero_> Vista
[03:03] <daftykins> ah ok
[03:03] <jmadero_> and a google search shows no obvious issues
[03:03] <jmadero_> many people say it runs Ubuntu without a hitch
[03:03] <daftykins> the one-time boot menu is F12 on some recent Lenovos i have here
[03:04] <jmadero_> daftykins: yeah I have that, it shows this hotplug option for USB
[03:04] <jmadero_> when I select it, nothing happens, goes to Vista
[03:04] <daftykins> can you take a pic?
[03:04] <jmadero_> when I disabled the HDD from bios, and just had the USB drive plugged in, says can't boot
[03:04] <daftykins> nothing in the BIOS that's potentially messing with this?
[03:04] <jmadero_> of what?
[03:04] <daftykins> of the F12 menu
[03:04] <jmadero_> daftykins: sure, but now it's family dinner (sorry) will return shortly
[03:04] <jmadero_> with a picture
[03:04] <jmadero_> :)
[03:04] <daftykins> excellent
[03:04] <jmadero_> daftykins: hopefully you don't leave before, you've helped before
[03:04] <jmadero_> my father in law will be happy
[03:05]  * jmadero_ waves
[03:05] <daftykins> feel free to do one of all the BIOS screens too
[03:05] <jmadero_> be back in a bit
[03:05] <jmadero_> will do
[03:05] <daftykins> o/
[03:05] <jmadero_> exit
[03:05] <daftykins> i'll be here i'm sure
[03:05] <jmadero_> quit
[03:05] <jmadero_> asdl;fj;asdf
[03:05] <daftykins> lol.
[03:06] <TiK> daftykins: now it's bitching that it's a directory
[03:06] <TiK> im just gonna reinstall my OS
[03:06] <daftykins> that's ridiculous
[03:07] <daftykins> TiK: copy /etc/alternatives to it instead
[03:07] <TiK> daftykins: thats what i Did
[03:07] <daftykins> sudo cp /etc/alternatives /usr/sbin/alternatives
[03:08] <TiK> daftykins: I did but i used -a
[03:08] <TiK> im copying files now gonna do a complete reinstall
[03:08] <daftykins> :(
[03:08] <TiK> im stuck dude
[03:08] <TiK> this is gonna take a while to backup files
[03:09] <TiK> 42m on this move
[03:09] <daftykins> giving up :(
[03:09] <TiK> i don't see any other solution
[03:09] <daftykins> read line 586 of /var/lib/dpkg/info/jre1.8.0-45.postrm
[03:09] <daftykins> lets see what it really wants to do
[03:10] <daftykins> if you can satisfy the requirements of the remove script, it can be removed
[03:10] <TiK> 1sec
[03:10] <daftykins> we have the technology...
[03:11] <TiK> daftykins: thats way to complex for me
[03:12] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[03:12] <daftykins> fine.
[03:12] <daftykins> all you have to do is pastebin that file
[03:19] <netameta> Is it possible to make an icon do a certain action ?
[03:19] <netameta> like setting apth / and then addin icon that will perform a tsk
[03:19] <daftykins> i don't follow.
[03:20] <gingermouse> netameta: you mean like make it so you double-click an icon and have it do a little task?
[03:21] <netameta> ok for example to run php storm right now, i have to do something like cd homedirectory ./phpstorm.sh
[03:22] <netameta> gingermouse, so instead of going through all of this i wiould just clicka  button on the left menu and it will do that for me
[03:22] <gingermouse> So you want to run a program for which there isn't currently an icon in the dash, right?
[03:22] <gingermouse> Got it.
[03:22] <netameta> yea i thinks so
[03:22] <daftykins> except that's a script
[03:22] <gingermouse> So you'll want to have a look at the files in /usr/share/applications
[03:23] <netameta> daftykins, yes its a script
[03:23] <daftykins> lol.
[03:24] <netameta> what ?
[03:24] <vonsyd0w> i think ~/.local/share/applications is a good location, doesn't require root
[03:24] <gingermouse> If you copy one of them to ~/.local/share/applications, you can modify it so that the exec= line points to the script you want to run.
[03:24] <netameta> i guess its a bit more complicated then i thought
[03:24] <gingermouse> Then just set a name (you only need to set it in English, or whatever language you have set) and point it to an icon.
[03:24] <daftykins> you might have to tell it to run "sh script.sh"
[03:25] <gingermouse> The best location for user-defined .desktop files.
[03:25] <netameta> well i dont really know where to start
[03:25] <netameta> so i will for the time being skip that
[03:26] <vonsyd0w> lol, the internet is awesome. netameta try reading this: http://askubuntu.com/q/220512/859
[03:27] <vonsyd0w> but i'd use ~/.local/share/applications instead of /usr/share/applications
[03:28] <netameta> thanks very much
[03:32] <coolstar-pc> Hi, I installed gnome-music but it's unable to find music in my Music folder
[03:33] <coolstar-pc> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04
[03:33] <gingermouse> coolstar-pc: when I installed it, for some reason I had to run "tracker-search --music-albums" and "tracker-search --music-artists" before it would see any songs.
[03:34] <coolstar-pc> gingermouse: hmm, when I run those commands it doesn't list any music albums :/
[03:35] <gingermouse> coolstar-pc: that said, Gnome Music didn't really work for me at all last time I tried it. Every time I pressed play or pause, it would pop up a dialog telling me, and on the queue screen the window behind the album art was transparent.
[03:35] <coolstar-pc> gingermouse:when I'm trying it it's saying "No Music found!" even though I have around 150 songs in my music folder
[03:36] <gingermouse> coolstar-pc: how did you install it in 14.04? From software center?
[03:36] <coolstar-pc> I installed it from synaptic
[03:36] <coolstar-pc> I don't really trust the software center much as it doesn't show technical details when installing packages
[03:37] <coolstar-pc> gingermouse: hmm, seems like tracker isn't indexing any files properly
[03:37] <gingermouse> No, I see now that it is in the repository
[03:38] <gingermouse> coolstar-pc: that might actually be your problem. Personally I just use Rhythmbox
[03:38] <cluelessperson> for some reason this user I just created doesn't show up when I do
[03:38] <cluelessperson> users
[03:38] <coolstar-pc> gingermouse:I've tried making tracker clear and reindex but it doesn't seem to be indexing at all
[03:38] <gingermouse> cluelessperson: how did you create the new user?
[03:39] <cluelessperson> gingermouse, nevermind, sorry for wasting your tmie
[03:39] <cluelessperson> users  shows you who's logged inapaprently
[03:39] <gingermouse> cluelessperson: not at all! =)
[03:39] <cluelessperson> gingermouse, You'd think "user" would show current logged in user, not users. :P
[03:39] <gingermouse> coolstar-pc: unfortunately, that's all I know about Gnome Music. It just seems to not work in Ubuntu.
[03:40] <gingermouse> cluelessperson: nothing particularly intuitive about that, no worries.
[03:42] <ichery> I'm currently running ubuntu 15.04 on my machine and want to keep updating it until the next LTS version is released. Will I be able to upgrade it - any neg impact? Thanks
[03:43] <gingermouse> ichery: in theory that should work without any issues. Make sure you install all updates as soon as they come out or at least once a week.
[03:43] <daftykins> ichery: yes just keep installing updates and on release day it'll be final.
[03:47] <gingermouse> ichery: I would always back up your files and have an install disk handy whenever you do an upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu, just in case.
[03:47] <ichery> Thanks gingermouse and daftykins.  How about if I'm using Nvidia drivers instead of Nouveau?
[03:47] <gingermouse> Murphy's law says having it will mean you won't need to use it. ;)
[03:47] <daftykins> then you better pray you didn't download them manually from nvidia's website
[03:47] <[n0mad]> oh, so what does 2 backups mean?!
[03:48] <ichery> Make sense. tks
[03:48] <gingermouse> Yw! =)
[03:51] <[n0mad]> would it be normal to see a file in terminal and in another app but not in nautilus?
[03:52] <[n0mad]> it's an example.desktop file i believe that i downloaded
[03:52] <[n0mad]> it's in my home dir but i can't see it except in terminal and systemback
[03:53] <Bashing-om> n0fuq: A dot (.XXXX) file ?
[03:53] <gingermouse> [n0mad]: it doesn't have a . in the front of it, does it?
[03:53] <[n0mad]> no, it's not hidden
[03:54] <[n0mad]> i guess i could try moving it to a different dir in terminal
[03:55] <gingermouse> [n0mad]: can you pastebin the contents?
[03:56] <[n0mad]> weird, terminal tells me no file but list it
[03:56] <[n0mad]> sure
[03:57] <[n0mad]> gingermouse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10864537/
[03:58] <gingermouse> [n0mad]: what's in the .desktop file?
[03:58] <[n0mad]> i looked with root too in nautilus and don't see it there
[03:59] <[n0mad]> i don't know, let me see..when i tried to move it it said no file so doubt i can open it
[04:01] <[n0mad]> ohhh
[04:01] <[n0mad]> i know what it is
[04:01] <[n0mad]> lol
[04:01] <[n0mad]> it's that examples shortcut
[04:01] <[n0mad]> blah
[04:01] <[n0mad]> been confused about this for a while and it's dumb
[04:02] <[n0mad]> links to some folder with some sample .ogg files
[04:03] <[n0mad]> thanks anyway gingermouse and Bashing-om i'm deleting that
[04:03] <gingermouse> Hah, no worries.
[04:03] <[n0mad]> it wouldn't move because i can't find "s" on my keyboard
[04:04] <gingermouse> The thing about .desktop files is that they can look different in terminal and file browsers
[04:04] <[n0mad]> right, makes sense
[04:05] <[n0mad]> i tried opening in gedit and it did which made me start really wondering. I noticed it was type "Link" and then i moved it and saw it clear as day with the little shortcut arrow
[04:09] <Bashing-om> [n0mad]: Ain't the terminal wonderful :)
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:17] <neopsyche> ?
[04:17] <neopsyche> are you just messing with me?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> neopsyche: you have joined an ubuntu support channel
[04:18] <daftykins> ...?
[04:18] <neopsyche> ginter mouse.. .desktop files are like.. launchers
[04:18] <neopsyche> lol. dafty, this conversation just got dafty.
[04:18] <neopsyche> ;-)
[04:19] <neopsyche> Sorry all I had no sleep
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> neopsyche: maybe re-ask your issue so others can help you?
[04:20] <daftykins> neopsyche: or sleep
[04:20] <neopsyche> no i was referrring to your name
[04:21] <neopsyche> lol
[04:22] <thegrreat> Is there any terminal command to search for package by name ?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> thegrreat: apt-cache search packagename
[04:22] <thegrreat> I mean for example i want to find a package to download by name "test"
[04:23] <thegrreat> Not a package i have downloaded already
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> thegrreat: yes
[04:24] <thegrreat> ok thanks
[04:29] <greenape> I have a Lubuntu question
[04:30] <greenape> anyone on?
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> !ask | greenape
[04:33] <greenape> Ive never used Lubuntu before and sometimes it shutsdown in about 3 seconds. Is this normal? Im not used to a PC turning off so quickly heh.
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> greenape: ubuntu shuts down very fast on computers, this is normal mate
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> greenape: especially if you have good hardware on lubuntu
[04:35] <greenape> no its an old PC
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> greenape: then its a good old pc, with a lightweight lubuntu working very smooth :p
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> greenape: you are worried something was wrong?
[04:37] <greenape> yes since Ive had trouble with it before although I switched the HDD and its cable
[04:38] <greenape> seems like its fine now but wanted to be certain
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> greenape: you can sleep on 2 ears
[04:39] <greenape> Idk what you mean by that
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> greenape: it means, dont worry its fine
[04:39] <greenape> ok thanks
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Eric__: morning mate
[04:45] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: morning
[04:53] <nalle_> hi
[04:54] <nalle_> I am trying to update ssh server 1.5.9 on ubuntu server version 12.04
[04:54] <nalle_> I want the openssh server version 1.6.1 or higher
[04:55] <nalle_> is there a way to do this without updating the OS
[04:55] <nalle_> as precise repo only supports openssh server version 1.5.9
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> !pinning | nalle_ maybe with this
[04:57] <nalle_> thanks ubottu I will try it
[05:05] <ANJ7> why does my IP keep on changing if I switch between ubuntu and windows
[05:06] <daftykins> which IP? internal LAN one?
[05:08] <rking> @ANJ7, because your router recognizes two different operating systems. It treats it as two separate computers.
[05:08] <rking> and reserves the IP.
[05:09] <ANJ7> rking: oh, ok.
[05:09] <rking> @ANJ7 As you switch back and forth your router will pickup your mac address and reassign the IP used previously.
[05:09] <rking> At least, should. ha
[05:10] <daftykins> that'd be the opposite of what's being reported
[05:10] <rking> @daftykins, when it picks up the same mac address it will change it unless a static IP is set.
[05:11] <rking> because it looks past the *nic
[05:11] <daftykins> i disagree
[05:11] <cluelessperson> question
[05:12] <rking> My cisco router assigns 3 different IP addresses to the same mac address because it knows the hostname is different.
[05:12] <cfhowlett> !ask | cluelessperson
[05:12] <postmodern> is there a good graphic mkv chapter editor?
[05:12] <cluelessperson> cfhowlett, I'm trying to install git as another user, "git"
[05:19] <Ademan> cluelessperson: what's your question though?
[05:19] <penos> ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggunit
[05:19] <penos> hello guys
[05:45] <cosmic_atheist> how is everyone this evening?
[05:47] <penos> im ok u
[05:58] <andrewjs18> hi folks, I can't seem to clear this error from apache, even though there IS a servername defined in my apache conf:  apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using IP Address. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message
[05:58] <daftykins> you need to configure your server with an FQDN
[05:58] <daftykins> edit /etc/hosts and before "hostname" put "hostname.domain"
[05:59] <andrewjs18> let me give it a whirl
[05:59] <daftykins> so e.g. "127.0.1.1       hostname.domain        hostname"
[06:00] <Flannel> No, that's not what you want.
[06:00] <andrewjs18> right now I just have the IP and hostname
[06:00] <Flannel> You need to modify an apache config file: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting_Apache
[06:00] <Flannel> (well, you create it first)
[06:01] <daftykins> well my method works fine :)
[06:01] <rking> ^
[06:01] <Bartistic> Can anyone try to help me with sound problems on my laptop?
[06:02] <andrewjs18> thanks daftykins & Flannel
[06:02] <andrewjs18> I used the 2nd method
[06:02] <andrewjs18> worked fine, no more errors when restarting apache
[06:02] <daftykins> Bartistic: ask away with detail and if someone knows they'll answer
[06:03] <Bartistic>  1 down vote favorite 	  I am using HP Elitebook 8540w and Ubuntu 14.04 Stil problem with sound. Alsmost thought I found a solution:  alsactl -F restore  it enabled sound, still have only headphones in sound settings, but the sound is working. headphones are not. After rebooting, speakers are muted again, headphones are working.  How do I fix this, but I want headphones to be headphones that work when I plug the jack in, and I want
[06:04] <dsmith> Hey morning everyone
[06:05] <Bartistic> Speakers are not working on my elitebook, not even in sound settings. Headphones are workin fine. How to fix it?
[06:07] <Bartistic> Speakers are not working on my elitebook, cannot see them even in sound settings. Headphones are workin fine. How to fix it?
[06:08] <daftykins> please stop repeating
[06:08] <daftykins> !repeat
[06:11] <Bartistic> Anyone?
[06:12] <Bartistic> :(
[06:14] <FriendsNone> help, i can't find termit in synaptic.
[06:16] <xangua> FriendsNone: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install termit
[06:19] <Bartistic> Can I repeat my question now?
[06:19] <FriendsNone> xangua: couldn't find package termit
[06:19] <xangua> !info termit
[06:21] <qu4nt1n> !s flash
[06:22] <kostodo> Having trouble clearing space in /boot
[06:22] <FriendsNone> i think its the version of ubuntu that i'm using
[06:23] <kostodo> Keeps telling me to do apt-get -f install but when I do that it says there is no space to run it
[06:23] <daftykins> kostodo: "ls -al /boot | pastebinit"
[06:23] <cfhowlett> kostodo, time to clean out some kernels
[06:23] <kostodo> Trying
[06:23] <cfhowlett> kostodo, sudo apt-get autoremove should do it
[06:23] <kostodo> But when I try purge it says unmet dependencies and to do apt-get -f install
[06:23] <kostodo> And again space issue
[06:24] <daftykins> yep return the above command then we can get cracking
[06:24] <FriendsNone> terminal suggestion? any one.
[06:25] <kostodo> http://pastebin.com/Uwb81dF5
[06:25] <kostodo> Butt load of old kernels there
[06:25] <daftykins> FriendsNone: what version?
[06:25] <kostodo> uname -a shows that I'm running 39
[06:25] <FriendsNone> daftykins: of ubuntu, because i'm trying to install termit
[06:26] <daftykins> kostodo: ugh. "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic linux-image-3.13.0-33-generic linux-image-3.13.0-34-generic linux-image-3.13.0-35-generic"
[06:26] <daftykins> FriendsNone: yes which version of ubuntu?
[06:26] <FriendsNone> daftykins: 10.04.4
[06:26] <daftykins> FriendsNone: server? your OS is dead in exactly 8 days.
[06:27] <kostodo> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/7vCstDGR
[06:27] <FriendsNone> daftykins: i downloaded desktop ver.
[06:28] <daftykins> FriendsNone: 10.04 desktop is even more dead, you're using an end of life distro version - we can't help you with that
[06:28] <daftykins> FriendsNone: install a supported version then we can talk :)
[06:29] <kostodo> daftykins, see the dependency errors?
[06:29] <daftykins> kostodo: alright, "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.13.0-32-generic" then "sudo dpkg -r linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic"
[06:29] <daftykins> yes i tend to need a few seconds to type :)
[06:29] <kostodo> Old school eh?
[06:29] <kostodo> ;)
[06:29] <FriendsNone> daftykins: ok, can you suggest a terminal...
[06:30] <daftykins> FriendsNone: no, i'm saying the OS you've installed is dead - you should not be using it :)
[06:30] <Bartistic> http://askubuntu.com/questions/612118/sound-problems-on-elitebook-8540w?sfb=2
[06:30] <kostodo> daftykins, ok that worked. Should I keep doing that for the lot of them bar 39 that Im using?
[06:30] <FriendsNone> daftykins: oh *shocked*
[06:31] <daftykins> kostodo: kill all the linux-image-extra for 33, 34 and 35 - then their main images - then do "sudo apt-get -f install" to finish that it was doing. pretty sure all your kernels are out of date
[06:31] <daftykins> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[06:31] <cfhowlett> FriendsNone, current Long Term Support version is 14.04.2.  download it, install it
[06:31] <daftykins> kostodo: yeah see ^ 3.13.0-49 is current.
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !lts | FriendsNone
[06:32] <FriendsNone> cfhowlett: i know what LTS means
[06:33] <daftykins> i'd recommend 14.04
[06:33] <Bartistic> FriendsNone, Limited Time Support (I think)
[06:33] <daftykins> Long Term
[06:33] <FriendsNone> lol
[06:33] <daftykins> you know, like the above factoid says...
[06:33] <Bartistic> or that
[06:33] <kostodo> daftykins, ok resuming apt-get -f install. But I see its again doing 40, 41, etc. Is that OK?
[06:33] <daftykins> kostodo: seems your machine is out of date! let it finish then do a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" perhaps
[06:34] <kostodo> I'm gonna run out of space in /boot again aren't I?
[06:34] <Bartistic> Is there anyone I can contact privately to help me with missing sound on laptop?
[06:34] <daftykins> you know what to do.
[06:34] <kostodo> daftykins, but I can only delete up to 39 right?
[06:35] <daftykins> you could remove 32-37 and then 40 right now
[06:35] <daftykins> plenty of free space after those :P
[06:35] <kostodo> ok either way it stopped on 43
[06:36] <kostodo> I guess now I should dist-upgrade
[06:36] <kostodo> Thats gonna be a long process right?
[06:36] <cfhowlett> kostodo, dist-upgrade means you will still be on 10.04
[06:37] <kostodo> I'm using 14.04
[06:37] <cfhowlett> kostodo, doh!  sorry, my mistake.  14.04.2    is current
[06:37] <kostodo> I'm on 14.04.1
[06:38] <kostodo> How long does the update process take?
[06:38] <cfhowlett> kostodo, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade           speed depends on your ISP
[06:38] <kostodo> Gotcha
[06:38] <kostodo> 129MB of archives
[06:39] <kostodo> Thanks for the help fellas
[06:39] <tianzuo> halo
[06:39] <tianzuo> 有人能看懂中文么
[06:39] <cfhowlett> !cn | tianzuo
[06:43] <Bartistic> prica li neko srpsko hrvatsko slovenacki ovdje?
[06:43] <indar> hello everybody ^_^
[06:44] <tianzuo> yes
[06:44] <tianzuo> halo
[06:44] <cfhowlett> Bartistic, english only in channel please.
[06:44] <cfhowlett> tianzuo, english only in channel please.
[06:44] <Bartistic> cfhowlett, No problem. Just trying to check if anyone speaks my language :) sorry
[06:45] <indar> ada yang dari Indonesia?
[06:45] <cfhowlett> !pl | bartistic there is a channel :)
[06:45] <cfhowlett> indar, english in this channel, please.
[06:45] <Bartistic> cfhhowell, went there, I was the only one in it :D
[06:45] <indar> I'm sorry :)
[06:46] <cfhowlett> Bartistic, yeah that happens sometimes
[06:46] <cfhowlett> !id | indar
[06:48] <indar> ubottu, terima kasih infonya. anda dari indonesia?
[06:49] <logan__> ubottu, hello
[06:49] <logan__> ??
[06:49] <indar> ubottu. oh, i think your Indonesian :)
[06:51] <Bartistic> Is there a serbian channel?
[06:51] <Bartistic> or craotian?
[06:51] <cfhowlett> Bartistic, what languages??
[06:51] <Bartistic> Serbian, croatian
[06:51] <daftykins> ask ubottu
[06:52] <cfhowlett> !alis | Bartistic,
[06:53] <bookpage> is the + in the version of a package name mean anything special?
[06:53] <bookpage> like "5.5.42+maria-1~precise"
[06:53] <logan__> !iamfamous | #thevillage
[06:54] <cfhowlett> !rs | bartistic
[06:54] <cfhowlett> !hr | bartistic
[07:02] <quarters> is there a way to actually learn how to use apt-get without going through either poring over manuals without much practical yield or through blindly going through the motions and using commands as they arise?
[07:02] <quarters> because it seems I'm doing one or the other but not quite developing an intuitive sense of how to use it
[07:02] <somsip> quarters: are you trying to do something unusual?
[07:03] <iptablesask> Hello im trying use iptables dns for only one user but i cant. All rest services works nice at user level, but dns restricted to one user not works :(
[07:04] <quarters> somsip> I don't believe I am. I've just screwed up a couple installs of ubuntu through trying to compile a program by piecing together instructions and going through I believe it's called dependency hell and then took a year off and am thinking about trying to install ubuntu again and play with it
[07:04] <somsip> quarters: mixing compiled apps, official repos (and unoffical repos) can cause problems. It's not recommended
[07:05] <kostodo> Do I need to restart after dist-upgrade?
[07:05] <daftykins> kostodo: if it pulls in a newer kernel, yes - hopefully you get -49 now
[07:05] <iptablesask> There is a particular user at ubuntu wich controls dns and if not get dns port open rest of users not have access ?
[07:05] <somsip> kostodo: you probably have kernel changes, so yes. but maybe not.
[07:05] <daftykins> quarters: there really aren't that many different commands to learn for apt-get, the best advice i can give is to use a notebook to make notes of commands you learn as a personal reference - and avoid GUI package managers to stick at the same CLI tools approach. and yeah... don't compile if you can avoid it.
[07:05] <kostodo> Yep I see 49 there
[07:05] <kostodo> I'll restart
[07:06] <cfhowlett> quarters, issue the command in terminal:  apt=get
[07:06] <__dan_> is it possible to reinstall ubuntu without clearing my home dir
[07:06] <cfhowlett> apt-get
[07:06] <cfhowlett> and read the details
[07:07] <cfhowlett> !home | __dan_ if you have a dedicated /home, yes.  if you only avoid formatting /home, MAYBE
[07:08] <__dan_> i have everything on an encrypted LVM
[07:09] <quarters> somsip> so compiling programs from source is probably not recommended as daftykins advised?
[07:10] <rgb-one> *that*
[07:10] <indar> i need help
[07:10] <rgb-one> **that**
[07:10] <quarters> because doing so generally inevitably leads to mixing unofficial repos and officals ones
[07:10] <somsip> quarters: if it's something that has dependencies that are normally handled by apt-get, it can get ugly. Compiling simple, standalone packages with few deps can be fine
[07:11] <daftykins> indar: step 1 is describing what in the form of a question
[07:13] <quarters> I thought that one of linux's biggest selling points was its openness, encouraging users to compile programs from source
[07:13] <quarters> at least that's what got my attention
[07:13] <somsip> quarters: you can do it. It doesn't mean it's easy
[07:13] <daftykins> when you're using a package management based distribution you should use packages primarily
[07:14] <robninjadude1> guys got a problem i can update my ubuntu install, keep saying 404 error, ip not found on all the repositories and i can down load any new packages from the net or by command line,,,, and i do have internet ecess
[07:14] <robninjadude1> i cant update
[07:14] <daftykins> if you compile, you're doing it wrong - and you're gonna have a bad time.
[07:14] <daftykins> robninjadude1: sounds like your DNS or networking is misconfigured. check you can resolve domains via dig or nslookup
[07:15] <robninjadude1> could you give me a few terminal commands to do ill relay back the info..
[07:15] <daftykins> "nslookup archive.ubuntu.com"
[07:15] <robninjadude1> k
[07:16] <robninjadude1> ok and what from here am i looking for i get the IP of each there..
[07:17] <daftykins> alright, so now run "sudo apt-get update" and tell us what mirror is 404'ing
[07:17] <robninjadude1> ok
[07:18] <robninjadude1> one of many     [IP: 91.189.91.24 80]
[07:18] <robninjadude1> 404
[07:18] <daftykins> i was more expecting an address than an IP
[07:18] <daftykins> perhaps pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:18] <robninjadude1> Err http://security.ubuntu.com raring-security/restricted i386 Packages
[07:18] <robninjadude1>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.24 80]
[07:19] <robninjadude1> sorry
[07:19] <daftykins> ah-ha.
[07:19] <daftykins> right, raring is a very very dead ubuntu release
[07:19] <daftykins> can you run "cat /etc/issue" ?
[07:19] <robninjadude1> ok how do i fix puter... lol
[07:19] <robninjadude1> ill try
[07:20] <engblom> Is there a way to get apt-get to automatically always install the *-dev packages. For example if libjpeg gets installed, I would it to automatically also install the libjpeg-dev package.
[07:21] <robninjadude1> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[07:21] <daftykins> !13.04
[07:21] <daftykins> so you're running an OS that's been dead for 15 months
[07:21] <robninjadude1> i get it bad bad... lol
[07:21] <daftykins> you'll need to upgrade to a supported release
[07:21] <robninjadude1> its been a bit of time
[07:21] <robninjadude1> how from this point
[07:22] <robninjadude1> i am using the buntu version of ubuntu studio,
[07:22] <daftykins> to be quite honest with a version that old, backup and clean install.
[07:22] <logan__> !50cent
[07:22] <robninjadude1> ;/
[07:22] <robninjadude1>   hmmm... k
[07:23] <daftykins> it'll save you a lot of hassle.
[07:23] <robninjadude1> well...could you point me in the direction of the ubuntu studio install ISO
[07:23] <robninjadude1> curren what ever
[07:24] <daftykins> no i don't fetch links i'm afraid, you have a brain for that yourself :)
[07:24] <robninjadude1> ok ....
[07:24] <robninjadude1> got time for a few more questions
[07:24] <robninjadude1> simple ones
[07:24] <daftykins> fire away, there are others besides me too
[07:25] <robninjadude1> what the hell happened to the window manager Awesome.....not avaliable anymore.... design?
[07:25] <somsip> !info awesomewm | robninjadude1
[07:25] <robninjadude1> awww.... lame
[07:26] <somsip> hmm. I thought that was right
[07:26] <somsip> !info awesome
[07:26] <robninjadude1> i was going o try and build a hacky and slim verstion linux....that was my goto WM
[07:26] <somsip> robninjadude1: ah - maybe renamed without the wm
[07:27] <somsip> robninjadude1: I would recommend installing the minimal ISO then installing your WM of choice on that and it'll pull in X, etc
[07:27] <daftykins> that'd bypass the desire for studio i suspect
[07:27] <somsip> daftykins: it would be an entirely different kettle of fish
[07:27] <robninjadude1> i got the minimal iso, but the terminal commands for aweome i cant find
[07:28] <somsip> robninjadude1: sudo apt-get install awesome
[07:28] <robninjadude1> dugh... lol
[07:28] <daftykins> it is a good thing penguins like fish.
[07:28] <robninjadude1> and it still avaliable from its source?
[07:28] <robninjadude1> so a apt-get works?
[07:28] <somsip> robninjadude1: it's source? Use the official repo when you can, though it is on an older minor version. There is a PPA but I wouldn't recommend it unless it's much more awesomer
[07:29] <robninjadude1> lol
[07:29] <robninjadude1> k
[07:29] <somsip> robninjadude1: Link with previous warning applying http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/install-latest-awesome-window-manager-ubuntu/
[07:30] <robninjadude1> one last question before i get spam warnings, is there ISO for minimal that can use the wifi, i dont have hard line
[07:30] <daftykins> no.
[07:30] <robninjadude1> more lamers
[07:30] <robninjadude1> lol
[07:30] <daftykins> were i judging i would call someone without a network cable a tad lame *whistle*
[07:31] <coolstar-pc> robninjadude1:don't have ethernet?
[07:31] <robninjadude1> lol.....i dont want to go down the hall and steal my Grandma's 360 cable
[07:31] <daftykins> grandma can stop playing call of duty for an hour
[07:31] <robninjadude1> i do, just
[07:31] <robninjadude1> exactly, exept she plays stupid RPG's
[07:32] <robninjadude1> seriously, 86 and a bigger gamer then me
[07:33] <robninjadude1> the stacks of game manuals we just had to toss cuase she is a horder threw my back out
[07:33] <robninjadude1> are you guys savy with bash?
[07:33] <somsip> robninjadude1: ask, but if it's too technical it belongs in #bash
[07:33] <daftykins> #bash are even better, though i hear they eat stupid question askers for breakfast
[07:34] <robninjadude1> i tried honest, but a poop head in there is kinda making it difficult to get info,
[07:34] <robninjadude1> ill keep searching on googles for it
[07:34] <somsip> robninjadude1: well ask, but we might not know
[07:35] <robninjadude1>  ok
[07:35] <robninjadude1> ill get a paste bin
[07:36] <robninjadude1> http://pastebin.com/4SDv1UJT
[07:37] <somsip> robninjadude1: is there a question about this?
[07:37] <robninjadude1> ok thats what i am working with right now, i need to know how to basicaly loop back to the top of main interpritastion and restart the ask for user input
[07:37] <robninjadude1> right now i am opening another terminal and caling the scrip again...
[07:37] <daftykins> you don't even have a shebang
[07:38] <robninjadude1> but thats creates a infinate loop and floods my screen with terminal windows
[07:39] <robninjadude1> i just cut and pasted a section not the whole deal
[07:39] <robninjadude1> is there a way to simply force a close of the sript and the terminal window, and start another
[07:39] <Guest17468> Hi
[07:40] <robninjadude1> or a more eligant way inside to loop
[07:41] <robninjadude1> this is a start of a way to get my linux to talk to me
[07:41] <robninjadude1> lol
[07:43] <robninjadude1> did i totaly blow minds?
[07:44] <daftykins> mostly with how you're still on raring, really :)
[07:44] <robninjadude1> lol
[07:44] <robninjadude1> k
[07:44] <robninjadude1> haha
[07:44] <daftykins> go sort that out.
[07:45] <robninjadude1> honestly i have been working in windows to do music production for a bit and now i am back on here to work on this project and some mucis stuff here...
[07:45] <daftykins> yeah ok, it's strictly support in here though robninjadude1 - no life stories please :)
[07:46] <robninjadude1> daftykins: in the minimal iso it goes through selecting Wm's process right? as additional software?
[07:47] <somsip> robninjadude1: my fault for inviting the question about bash. Help cn be given for simple stuff, but you need #bash for that script
[07:47] <robninjadude1> k
[07:47] <robninjadude1> thank you though
[07:49] <iBurley> Is Lubuntu 15.04 shipping with LXQt?
[08:17] <xyzwhatever> when has ubuntu become so crappy
[08:19] <jzp113> hi
[08:19] <jzp113> some guys play proxmark3?
[08:19] <b00b00> hi
[08:19] <nrdb> does anyone know of a way to boot from ZFS that actually works for 14.04 the one writeup I found doesn't
[08:19] <jzp113> I find my download is too slow in github
[08:19] <b00b00> i installed vnc server on ubuntu, and when connecting and clicking a few chars like "s", it bringing menu, how can i get rid of that?
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> !zfs | nrdb
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> b00b00: be carefull with vnc for security reasons
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> xyzwhatever: your experience does not affect ubuntu
[08:24] <nrdb> lotuspsychje, I tried this https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem but it desn't boot ... grub doesn't install.
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> nrdb: maybe the #zfs guys can help you more with it, never played with it myself
[08:26] <nrdb> lotuspsychje, maybe I will give them a try.
[08:27] <beatlejuice> .
[08:32] <b00b00> lotuspsychje: thanks, i dont care about security that case, what can i do with what i asked?
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | b00b00
[08:33] <__dan_> so uhh
[08:33] <__dan_> i tried reinstalling 14.04
[08:33] <__dan_> it failed to partition my drive
[08:33] <__dan_> now it can't see it at all
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> b00b00: can you tell us what your vnc purpose is?
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: did you check if your hd is still healthy?
[08:34] <__dan_> how?
[08:34] <__dan_> partition table totally wiped
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: in bios perhaps, see if drive still shows us
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> up
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: ddi you have ubuntu before?
[08:36] <__dan_> yes it was working before
[08:36] <__dan_> bios not seeing the drive now
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: what brand is your Hd, maybe you can use a testcdrom with hd test suite or something to check the hd
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: some brands offer speciliazed software cdroms to test them
[08:38] <__dan_> corsair
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: ssd?
[08:39] <__dan_> yes
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: doublecheck if your bios is set from IDE to AHCI
[08:40] <__dan_> its set to native ide
[08:40] <__dan_> should i try amd_ahci mode?
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: ssd require to AHCI yes
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: then retry your ubuntu install
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: if your system is uefi and you want only ubuntu, disable fastboot and secureboot also
[08:42] <__dan_> disk still not detected in bios
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: hmm your sata cables connected properly?
[08:43] <jzp113> hi  guys cmdhfmfu.c:12:25: fatal error: openssl/des.h how to solve that?
[08:43] <__dan_> didnt touch anything
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: it would be unlikely your ssd is dead
[08:43] <__dan_> let me try hooking it up to a diff computer
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: never seen an ssd die before :p
[08:45] <k1l> if its not recognized in bios there is nothing ubuntu can do afterwards.
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> jzp113: maybe the ##openssl guys might know that error?
[08:47] <__dan_> yep this computer sees the disk still
[08:47] <jzp113> lotuspsychje, thanks  I solve it which i forget install  libssl-dev
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !yay | jzp113
[08:48] <jzp113> lotuspsychje, ubottu  thank google   and stackoverflow
[08:48] <__dan_> ok deleted all partitions from here
[08:48] <__dan_> will try again on server
[08:48] <jzp113> do you know proxmark3?
[08:53] <tr3nton> I'm trying run a command that redirects stdout to a file, redirects stderr to a file, (separate files) but also display both on the console.. Is this possible?
[08:54] <muzy> tr3nton: try to see whether "tee" works for you
[08:54] <b00b00> lotuspsychje: ubuntu test desktop machine
[08:54] <muzy> this works at least for stdin
[08:54] <__dan_> it still doesn't show in bios setup screen
[08:54] <__dan_> it shows on POST though
[08:55] <__dan_> and now the installer finds it again
[08:55] <__dan_> wtf
[08:55] <tr3nton> muzy: yeah saw that.. i think that will only work if putting all in one file. e.g. 2>&1 | tee fileout
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> __dan_: after set to AHCI you need a fresh install again
[08:57] <__dan_> installer complains that volume group name is already in use
[08:57] <__dan_> can't it just blow away the old stuff?
[09:00] <muzy> tr3nton: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21465297/tee-stdout-and-stderr-to-separate-files-while-retaining-them-on-their-respective
[09:01] <muzy> tr3nton: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/692000/how-do-i-write-stderr-to-a-file-while-using-tee-with-a-pipe
[09:01] <muzy> those two answers there look promising (and so obvious m))
[09:02] <Nothing4You> hi
[09:02] <tr3nton> muzy: good finds! Ty
[09:02] <pillepalle27> ping
[09:02] <muzy> tr3nton: you're welcome
[09:06] <jzp113> hi
[09:07] <jzp113> someone know hexedit?
[09:07] <lotuspsychje> !info hexedit | jzp113
[09:08] <ZuZuu> Hello everybody, still have a problem on upstart Job with java (Could not reserve enough space for code cache)
[09:08] <ZuZuu> The job work launch from a shell without any problems
[09:09] <ZuZuu> A simple upstart job with "java -version" give me the same error message
[09:09] <ZuZuu> Any idea ?
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> ZuZuu: can this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/162768/starting-java-processes-with-upstart
[09:25] <Sar_aLL> hi, I'm using byobu in Debian jessie. to create a horizontal split I need to press shift + f2 but the shell returns a tilde (~). I'm using bash. does anyone have the same problem? In debian wheezy I don't have this problem
[09:30] <ZuZuu> No its doesnt help but thanks !
[09:32] <fuzzy_id> i have an (unknown) script running on my server which deletes /dev/null every now and then
[09:32] <fuzzy_id> i do have a rough idea which script that could be
[09:32] <fuzzy_id> but it consists of some obscure php code which i'm actually not willing to audit entirely
[09:32] <fuzzy_id> now my idea was to put restrictions on the calling script via apparmor
[09:33] <fuzzy_id> but i don't get the necessary profile right
[09:33] <RtMF> fuzzy_id: ...wow
[09:33] <RtMF> like...that tops my server issues so far
[09:33] <fuzzy_id> yep
[09:34] <fuzzy_id> very annoying
[09:34] <fuzzy_id> i added ' deny /dev/foo w,' and '/dev/foo a,' to the profile but in the calling script i'm still able to touch and rm /dev/foo
[09:35] <fuzzy_id> shouldn't apparmor forbid this?
[09:43] <xyrezic> anybody know a good guide for setting up a pptpd on 14.10 ?
[10:02] <vieira_> Hello, I am bit confused. I downloaded a daily build of the 15.04 server ISO but it looks like a netinstall although it has 600+MB
[10:02] <vieira_> I cannot install without internet for instance...
[10:02] <vieira_> and some kernel modules are missing, e.g. aacraid.ko
[10:02] <vieira_> the desktop daily build does not have this problem
[10:03] <vieira_> is this a known problem?
[10:03] <DJones> vieira_: Its probably worth joining #ubuntu+1 and asking there, the people that have been testing should be able to advise you best
[10:04] <__dan_> setting up lvm partition keeps failing
[10:04] <vieira_> DJones: will do
[10:07] <andrey> hello, is it possible to use wayland?
[10:16] <bojan> When i am trying to build a code in monodevelop on ubuntu it is saying error as "#include <stdio.h>  No such a file or directory...how to fix this issue??
[10:17] <jpds> bojan: install libc6-dev.
[10:20] <bojan> jpds:okay
[10:20] <bojan> jpds:let me install and check
[10:20] <jpds> bojan: You might want to install 'build-essential' while you're at it.
[10:21] <bojan> jpds:Yes i have installed that build-essential already
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> !wayland | andrey
[10:21] <mcphail> bojan: if you have build-essential you should already have the stdc header files
[10:22] <bojan> Thmcphail:Then why it is saying that error
[10:23] <mcphail> bojan: I haven't used monodevelop. Presumably it isn't telling the preprocessor to look in the right place for header files
[10:23] <k1l> andrey: wayland is not really "production ready". so dont expect a regular daily use desktop. but you can use it if you want
[10:24] <mcphail> bojan: although, that is pretty basic stuff and you'd think it would look in the standard locations by default
[10:25] <mcphail> bojan: you do have it set up for a C project rather than C#?
[10:26] <momi> alguien me puede decir esto que es????
[10:26] <momi> lo he visto ahora
[10:26] <k1l> !es  | momi
[10:27] <momi> dime kl
[10:27] <momi> k1
[10:27] <momi> me puedes decir que es esto????
[10:27] <k1l> momi: this is an english channel
[10:28] <momi> solo se habla en ingles????
[10:28] <momi> pero para que se entra
[10:28] <momi> os cuento
[10:28] <momi> soy la esposa de momi
[10:28] <momi> y he visto esto en el pc
[10:28] <momi> y me gustaría saber para que sirve esto
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> !es
[10:29] <emapaere> who is here
[10:30] <redpoppies> hello
[10:31] <emapaere> novice here. have no idea hw this works. help!!!!!
[10:32] <hateball> !ask | emapaere
[10:32] <chotaz`w> emapaere, please start by stating your problem :)
[10:33] <emapaere> have no idea how the whore irc works
[10:34] <chotaz`w> you join channels by topics and then follow the guidelines provided by the topic and the server. Anyways this is an help channel, for offtopic we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:39] <andrey> k1l: ok thanks
[10:54] <SomeT> I have a dilemma, my college asked me to specifically install a 32 bit version of ubuntu, I did that, no problem. Now they are asking me to investigate the minimum specs, the minimum specs for ubuntu 14.04 trusty tahr is 64 bit? Does anyone know of more accurate website that can give me a more accurate representation of the minimum specs for this version of ubuntu please?
[10:56] <ironhoof> Hello I tried moving the mbrola voice files into a sub directory called voices using mv folder /voices I didn't think about it , but where did they go?
[10:56] <TheNumb> SomeT: desktop? server?
[10:57] <SomeT> desktop
[10:57] <SomeT> sorry
[10:57] <SomeT> i mean you have
[10:57] <TheNumb> SomeT: with unity?
[10:57] <SomeT> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[10:57] <est31> hi I have a problem with apt-get update
[10:57] <SomeT> you mean 14.04 bhy unity?
[10:57] <est31> its writing: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/trusty-security/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[10:57] <SomeT> investigate whether Ubuntu Linux 14.04 is a suitable replacement for Windows XP on older hardware.
[10:57] <SomeT> thats what they ask
[10:57] <Areks> hello guys, can u resize root patition "/" withou reinstall or booting from live cd?
[10:58] <SomeT> specifically that version of ubuntu
[10:58] <SomeT> so would i be safe to just use: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[10:58] <SomeT> as a means of 14.04 desktop versiob?
[10:58] <Ben64> SomeT: windows xp is no longer supported, i'd wager any supported OS would be better
[10:58] <est31> Areks, see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-can-i-resize-an-ext-root-partition-at-runtime
[10:58] <TheNumb> SomeT: those requirements look a little bit dated.
[10:59] <est31> but shrinking is not supported Areks
[10:59] <lord4163> ironhoof: to /voices
[10:59] <ironhoof> lord4163 the voices sub folder i made is empty
[11:00] <Areks> est31: mm what should i read?
[11:00] <TheNumb> SomeT: the requirements vary for various desktop environments.
[11:00] <lord4163> ironhoof: it should be in /voices directly in your root filesystem.
[11:00] <Areks> est31: there are few answers
[11:00] <SomeT> how do I pin it down to that version though TheNumb?
[11:00] <SomeT> thats what I need to do
[11:00] <SomeT> preferbly 32 bit
[11:00] <SomeT> as what they are asking does not make sense for a 64 bit machine
[11:01] <est31> Areks, do you want to shrink or enlarge?
[11:01] <Areks> est31: enlarge
[11:02] <Ben64> SomeT: what is your actual question
[11:02] <est31> Areks, see this answer http://askubuntu.com/a/119458
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> SomeT  64bit software can be used on 64bit hardware... 32bit software can be used on both 32bit and 64bit hardware
[11:02] <SomeT> well thhey want me to find requirements for a old 32 bit machine
[11:02] <k1l> Areks: its more safe and easy to just boot a live cd/usb
[11:03] <Areks> est31: The filesystem is already 5119744 blocks long.  Nothing to do!
[11:03] <Areks> if i tried  resize2fs /dev/sda1
[11:03] <ironhoof> lord4163: There doesn't seem to be a voices in /
[11:03] <Areks> k1l: i can't
[11:03] <SomeT> would U be safe to use:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Desktop_Edition
[11:03] <SomeT> for version 14.04?
[11:03] <SomeT> trust tahr version
[11:03] <Nimms> Areks, it's because you also need to enlarge the partition.
[11:03] <est31> Areks, why can'T you boot live cds?
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> SomeT  are you in ubuntu now?
[11:04] <k1l> Areks: dont mix partitions and filesystems.
[11:04] <est31> ^
[11:05] <Areks> est31: because it's hosting not mine PC
[11:05] <lord4163> ironhoof: what's the command you ran?
[11:06] <est31> Areks, see the answer I've sent you above, that contains what to do with fdisk
[11:06] <k1l> Areks: so you have a recovery or hosting-solution to boot? use that then
[11:06] <ironhoof> lord4163: I ran first sudo mkdir voices in mbrola which worked, then I sudo mv en1 /voices
[11:07] <Sohail-Ahmed> a .deb package is the one which is included in the standard Debian distribution. Does the packages that are included in the repositories are also .deb packges? Would some body please help me?
[11:07] <lord4163> ironhoof: that should not work because there is no such folder on your system you said
[11:08] <ironhoof> lord4163: There isnt but the folder vanished all the same
[11:08] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: ubuntu used .deb packages too. what is your issue?
[11:09] <lord4163> ironhoof: lets say you create a folder in your home folder (/home/ironhoof) and you have a file there you want to move into your newly created folder you will execute `mv file newlyCreatedFolder`
[11:09] <Areks> k1l: hmm, recovery
[11:09] <lord4163> ironhoof: without the sudo, because you have permission to write inside your own home folder
[11:09] <ironhoof> lord4163: Okay its not yours or my fault, apparently the file browser doesnt show this newly created folder until you close all instances of the file browser. I closed them all, and reopened there is NOW a /voices
[11:10] <lord4163> ironhoof: oh hm...
[11:10] <ironhoof> I should be able to safely move these back, and delete /voices
[11:11] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: Thanks for repsonding! I know .deb packages can be installed by dpkg and in dpkg my interest is its additional functionality of installing at your desired location, instead of the default one. In summary I want to know whetther octave is a .deb or not?
[11:12] <lord4163> ironhoof: then there is something wrong with your file manager, it should automatically update - nautilus at least.
[11:13] <bojan> When i am trying to execute a code in mplabx_ide on ubuntu it is showing error as /bin/sh:5:exec:make not found...How to solve this issue??
[11:13] <lord4163> bojan: install make :)
[11:13] <lord4163> bojan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:14] <bojan> lord4163:build-essential is installed already and how to install make??
[11:14] <ironhoof> lord4163 yea its doing it now it must of been a glitch, but thanks for sending me in the right direction
[11:14] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: i dont understand your issue. you have a octave.deb? or do you want one?
[11:14] <lord4163> bojan: hm, make is part of that meta-package, seems like your IDE just can't find it
[11:14] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: Yes I want one, if its available.
[11:14] <lord4163> bojan: what does `which make` say?
[11:15] <k1l> !info octave | Sohail-Ahmed
[11:15] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: its in the repos. so you can use apt-get to install it
[11:16] <lord4163> ironhoof: sure no problem :-)
[11:16] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: thats my point. I don't want the octave from apt-get, since it does not allow me to install it at my desired location.
[11:16] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: what is your "desired location" then?
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  you can apt-get download it and then move it to where you want
[11:17] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: not the default one.
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  or is it apt-download, i forget the exact syntax
[11:17] <bojan> lord4163:I dont have a package for that
[11:17] <k1l> MonkeyDust: afaik it will install to the paths given in the .deb. which is the standard paths
[11:17] <bojan> lord4163:How to search which make
[11:17] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: details matter
[11:17] <lord4163> bojan: In your terminal execute: `which make`
[11:17] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: so you mean sudo apt-get download octave or sudo apt-download would download the package but where??
[11:18] <bojan> lord4163:nothing happended
[11:18] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: let us say in my home directory
[11:18] <lord4163> Sohail-Ahmed: cache is stored inn /var?
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  in the folder where you're in, then you take it where you want
[11:18] <lord4163> Sohail-Ahmed: Why do you want to install it to your home?
[11:18] <lord4163> Sohail-Ahmed: what's the reason for that?
[11:18] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: i dont understand the reason behind that. a regular install is the easiest way and works.
[11:19] <hateball> Perhaps one is trying to work around permissions
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  ok, it's sudo apt-get download [package] ... just tried it
[11:19] <Sohail-Ahmed> lord4163, k1l  I want it to be installed in home/sohail/anaconda. Since in this way I can make it available under anaconda installtion.
[11:19] <sveinse> I'm trying to debootrsap vivid from utopic (debootstrap --variant=minbase vivid), but it fails with "Invalid release signature (key id 40976EAF437D05B5)". Any ideas? debootstrapping jessie worked fine
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  i just explained how to do it
[11:20] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: thanks I will try it. But to make sure before downloading it, would I be having any executatble file to let me specify the location???
[11:21] <lord4163> MonkeyDust: apt-get requires root permissions whatsoever right?
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  you can use cp or mv to place the deb somewhere else
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> lord4163  yes, apt-get required sudo, apt-cache does not
[11:21] <EriC^^> lord4163: apt-get download doens't need permissions i think
[11:21] <lord4163> okay
[11:21] <hateball> There's no root needed to apt-get download and then perhaps dpkg --unpack. It's asking for trouble however
[11:22] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: i would suggest to use symlinks or to get anaconda to be installed properly. but here are some workarounds to your way of setting that up: http://askubuntu.com/a/236149/31260
[11:22] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: I understand that but the download is not enough, I want to install it too.
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  install it with dpkg or with the gui
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  or you want it *installed* somewhere else? don't know how to do that
[11:23] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: So you are confirming that any package thats downloaded with sudo apt-download .. is a .deb package, since only then I can use dpkg. Correct???
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  just found out, "apt-get download" does not require sudo
[11:24] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: why doesnt anaconda look into $PATH and use the official ubuntu octave?
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  yes, apt-get download downloaded the .deb
[11:24] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: I dont know what is there mechnism to install. Though I can install python packges where ever I want using --prefix. and I also know that debian packges
[11:25] <Sohail-Ahmed> MonkeyDust: debian package's installtion location is controlled by dpkg
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  yes
[11:25] <lord4163> Sohail-Ahmed: then dpkg-deb -x package.deb /home/sohail/anaconda
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> dpkg means debian package
[11:25] <Sohail-Ahmed> k1l: since anconda is not installed with sudo
[11:25] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: that doesnt matter
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  you lost me, i no longer get waht you want or are trying to do
[11:26] <k1l> Sohail-Ahmed: fix anaconda to us the right path instead of messing with the ubuntu system because anaconda makes a problem
[11:27] <Sohail-Ahmed> Just please confirm that the packge downloaded by sudo apt-download would be a .deb packge correct?????????/
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> Sohail-Ahmed  yes, it's a .deb file
[11:28] <bojan> lord4163:Sorry internet disconnected..Tell me now
[11:33] <theGhoul21> Hello
[11:33] <theGhoul21> I am having some problems with a ubuntu install
[11:34] <theGhoul21> Right after pressing Install now
[11:34] <theGhoul21> The system froze
[11:34] <theGhoul21> The mouse moves of few pixels every now and then
[11:35] <theGhoul21> I was trying to install a dual boot with windows 8
[11:35] <theGhoul21> I don't want to lose all my win data
[11:35] <theGhoul21> Someone has suggestions?
[11:35] <bojan> hi i have installed mplab is IDE tool on ubuntu..Whn i am trying to build the program its saying error as :http://paste.ubuntu.com/10865598/"...Can anyone please help me to solve thisissue??
[11:36] <bojan> sorry rthe link is http://paste.ubuntu.com/10865598/
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <Nimms> theGhoul21, "Install now" when you are in the boot menu or in the graphic installer?
[11:39] <p34k> trolling is a art
[11:39] <theGhoul21> Graphic installer
[11:41] <Nimms> theGhoul21, does it reach the "Preparing to install Ubuntu" stage at all?
[11:41] <theGhoul21> Nimms, nope
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> theGhoul21  make a backup first, of your windows files, so you won't lose anything, if things go wrong
[11:42] <theGhoul21> It s a bit late:/
[11:42] <__dan_> ok i did a non lvm partition on the install menu this time
[11:42] <__dan_> now it's hung on creating ext4 file system
[11:42] <Nimms> theGhoul21, maybe the problem is in your network adapter.
[11:43] <theGhoul21> I have a WiFi card
[11:43] <theGhoul21> On my desktop
[11:45] <Nimms> theGhoul21, can you tell the model?
[11:45] <theGhoul21> Tp link something
[11:46] <Nimms> theGhoul21, OK, when it hangs, can you switch to another virtual console?
[11:46] <theGhoul21> Nimms is there a way to start the terminal to see what is going on? Keyboard and mouse are not responding btw
[11:46] <Nimms> Ctrl+Alt+F1
[11:47] <theGhoul21> Nimms nothing happens
[11:47] <Nimms> Give me a minute then.
[11:47] <theGhoul21> Nimms thank you sir, you deserve my esteem
[11:48] <bojan> hi i have installed mplab is IDE tool on ubuntu..Whn i am trying to build the program its saying error as :http://paste.ubuntu.com/10865598/  ...Can anyone please help me to solve thisissue??
[11:51] <hateball> bojan: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:52] <bojan> hateball:Its installed already
[11:53] <yorwos> hi all , so 15.05 coming tomorrow yes ? im excited
[11:53] <Ben64> 15.04, and most likely
[11:53] <ioria> bojan, 32 or 64 bit ?
[11:54] <hateball> bojan: on their website it states it needs 32-bit libs
[11:54] <bojan> ioria:b4 bit
[11:54] <hateball> usually there is a README included that tells you which libs you need, install the i386 versions of those
[11:54] <ioria> bojan, it's a problem....
[11:54] <bojan> iroria:can u tell me
[11:55] <bojan> iroria:what is the problem??
[11:55] <ioria> bojan, you need compatibility library
[11:55] <jpds> bojan: sudo apt-get install make
[11:56] <bojan> jpds:make also showing installed
[11:58] <ioria> bojan  sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 ia32-libs what says ?
[12:04] <Pandabob> hey anyone around?
[12:04] <EriC^^> be vewy vewy quiet..
[12:05] <EriC^^> what's up?
[12:05] <Pandabob> i set up apache on ubuntu and everything was working but the power cord got unplugged
[12:06] <Pandabob> i restarted and now nothing works
[12:06] <EriC^^> what do you mean by nothing works?
[12:06] <Pandabob> it connects to the wifi but is unreachable now
[12:06] <Pandabob> doesn't serve out webpages externally
[12:06] <emapaere> how can i install java on ubuntu?
[12:06] <Pandabob> anymore
[12:07] <OerHeks> !java | emapaere
[12:07] <Pandabob> i think maybe cos it didn't shut down properly
[12:07] <Pandabob> actually i have no idea
[12:07] <Pandabob> i just want to cry
[12:07] <Pandabob> and throw it out the window
[12:07] <SchrodingersScat> Pandabob: it's possible, pull from backups or reinstall?
[12:07] <Pandabob> i didn't have time to backup
[12:08] <Pandabob> this will be the third reinstall
[12:08] <Pandabob> i'm just over it
[12:09] <Pandabob> how would you back it up anyway?
[12:09] <Pandabob> just out of curiosity
[12:09] <Pandabob> an image?
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Pandabob  don't hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache
[12:09] <Pandabob> o
[12:09] <Pandabob> really?
[12:10] <Pandabob> you think so
[12:10] <Pandabob> hmm
[12:10] <Pandabob> i'll take it into consideration
[12:10] <Pandabob> i guess
[12:10] <EriC^^> Pandabob: try to reinstall apache2, the config files will stay ( i think ) i just tried it
[12:10] <ioria> i see
[12:10] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[12:10] <Pandabob> ok eric
[12:10] <Pandabob> thanks
[12:11] <ioria> Pandabob, but can you  ping anything else, like 8.8.8.8 ?
[12:11] <Pandabob> yeah it's connected to the router but unreachable on lan
[12:11] <Pandabob> so yers
[12:11] <ioria> Pandabob, but can you  ping the router ?
[12:11] <Pandabob> obviously
[12:12] <EriC^^> do other stuff work? like can you ssh in or so?
[12:12] <Pandabob> no ftp
[12:12] <Pandabob> no ssh
[12:12] <Pandabob> no http
[12:12] <EriC^^> so it's not to do with apache
[12:12] <Pandabob> i suspect my network
[12:12] <ioria> Pandabob, try to ping www.google.com ... maybe it's resolv
[12:12] <swifty14> when ubuntu 15.04 released?
[12:13] <Pandabob> yeah it pings google
[12:14] <ioria> Pandabob, browser is working ?
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> swifty14  tomorrow, time depends on your timezone
[12:14] <Pandabob> yeah internet is working
[12:14] <ioria> Pandabob, so it's apache
[12:15] <bazhang> !party
[12:15] <Pandabob> alright i'm going now to reinstall it
[12:15] <bazhang> utopic!
[12:17] <ioria> Pandabob, it's not apache ,  imeant, sorry
[12:17] <Pandabob> i'm gonna try it anyway
[12:17] <Pandabob> it's easy enough to reinstall
[12:18] <Pandabob> won't take too long
[12:18] <ioria> Pandabob, are you using some global configuring interface ... le ISPConfig ?
[12:19] <Pandabob> don't think so
[12:19] <swifty> when newest ubuntu come out
[12:19] <Ben64> tomorrow probably
[12:19] <Pandabob> as i don't know what it is
[12:19] <bazhang> the 23rd
[12:20] <geirha> Soon(tm)
[12:20] <ioria> Pandabob, check if sshd and the ftp server service are running
[12:20] <Pandabob> no sftp isn't
[12:21] <Pandabob> err
[12:21] <Pandabob> ftp
[12:21] <ioria> Pandabob,  and sshd   ? ps -A
[12:21] <EriC^^> Pandabob: is apache running?
[12:21] <Pandabob> yeah apache is running
[12:22] <ioria> Pandabob,  restart them all
[12:22] <Pandabob> i can't remember which ftp service i installed
[12:22] <ioria> Pandabob,  usually, sftp, or vsftp or pureftp....     depen ds
[12:23] <Mion> Pandabob: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[12:23] <Pandabob> yeah i use sftp
[12:23] <Pandabob> but
[12:23] <Pandabob> i can't remember
[12:23] <Pandabob> which one
[12:23] <Pandabob> i installed
[12:23] <Mion> sftp is not ftp
[12:23] <Pandabob> look
[12:23] <Pandabob> i don't want to argue with you
[12:23] <Mion> at all
[12:23] <Pandabob> ok?
[12:23] <Mion> it uses ssh
[12:24] <ioria> Pandabob,  check /etc/init.d/
[12:24] <Mion> and the most common ssh server is openssh
[12:24] <Pandabob> is there a way to find out what you've installed
[12:25] <Pandabob> with regards to ftp or ssh or whatever
[12:25] <geirha> if you have sshd installed, you have sftp
[12:26] <Pandabob> right ssh is running
[12:26] <Pandabob> apache is running
[12:26] <Pandabob> they just aren't working
[12:26] <ioria> Pandabob,  sudo service ssh restart
[12:27] <zeon> h
[12:27] <Pandabob> i like ubuntu it just never works for me
[12:28] <Mion> define "not working"
[12:29] <Pandabob> i set up apache and everything and get it working
[12:29] <Pandabob> then when i restart the machine
[12:29] <Pandabob> nothing works anymore
[12:29] <ioria> Pandabob,  what the command above says  ?
[12:30] <Pandabob> restart ssh is that what you're talking about?
[12:30] <ioria> yep
[12:31] <Pandabob> yeah it's still the same
[12:31] <Pandabob> not working anymore
[12:32] <ioria> Pandabob,  try sudo service ssh start and tell us the output
[12:33] <Pandabob> start: job is already running: ssh
[12:34] <welsh1lad> Afternoon all from Sunny UK Wales
[12:35] <ioria> Pandabob,  ps aux | grep ftp ?
[12:35] <welsh1lad> So any one passed there LPI 101 looking for advice and tips
[12:36] <Pandabob> angie 7926 0.0 0.0 4692 2028 pts/1 S+ 22:35 0:00 grep --color=auto ftp
[12:36] <heapc0re> maybe you will have a problem with ne process itself just type "killall <..> " -> <process>
[12:37] <ioria> Pandabob,  dpkg -l | grep -i ftp | grep -i server ?
[12:39] <Pandabob> dnsmasq-base 2.68-1 dns proxy and dhcp/tftp server
[12:40] <Pandabob> openssh-sftp-server
[12:40] <DammitJim> can you guys point me to good documentation for Ubuntu integration with AD and HOME folder on Ubuntu sharing with Windows Clients?
[12:40] <Pandabob> 1:6..... secure shell
[12:40] <DammitJim> I've read stuff about SSSD, but I it was for RedHat7
[12:41] <DammitJim> or is likewise-open what is recommended? I'm so confused
[12:41] <Mion> DammitJim: official samba docs
[12:41] <Fuchs> DammitJim: definitely sssd
[12:42] <Fuchs> DammitJim: works so so so so so much better than samba/winbind, we use it in a professional / enterprise environment here
[12:42] <DammitJim> Mion, I didn't see in the official samba docs anything about sssd
[12:42] <DammitJim> Fuchs, do you have a link with documentation? I'm struggling 'cause I went the winbind route and I'm paying for it now
[12:43] <welsh1lad> DammitJim - sernet-samba 4.1 you need for AD connectivity
[12:43] <Fuchs> DammitJim: the home folder is the tricky part, we opted for having an actual local home folder  (which is created via pam_mkdir on initial login), but technically you could mount the home folder via either nfs or cifs during login, given you'll have a valid kerberos ticket
[12:43] <Fuchs> DammitJim: let me see if there is decent English one, we mainly used German documentation plus we have our own internal one
[12:43] <DammitJim> thank you thank you!!! Fuchs
[12:43] <DammitJim> welsh1lad, sernet-samba???? where do I get that from? How does that relate to sssd?
[12:44] <Fuchs> DammitJim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Enterprise/Authentication/sssd  doesn't look too off but doesn't cover home mounting yet, let me see if I find more
[12:45] <DammitJim> thanks Fuchs I've read this before... trying to remember what my roadblock was when implementing it
[12:46] <Fuchs> DammitJim: http://www.lancaster.ac.uk/iss/tsg/unix-ad/  looks slightly more complete but still lacks home directories  (as said, currently we don't mount these as well, on purpose. We don't want the full home on all servers, this doesn't make sense. But we are looking into it to have a home on the work client and the config files automatically mounted on servers)
[12:47] <DammitJim> yeah, my disconnect is with the samba integration... I think that's where I had nowhere to go
[12:47] <Fuchs> We are pondering using NFS instead, it's less of a pain
[12:47] <DammitJim> but I wonder if I should stick to winbind since that is what Samba has documented?
[12:47] <Fuchs> currently we do mount directories with kerberos, mind
[12:47] <DammitJim> NFS where?
[12:47] <Fuchs> just not the home
[12:48] <welsh1lad> DammitJim - sernet-samba allows AD integration
[12:48] <welsh1lad> its the stable release
[12:48] <Fuchs> but that should be as trivial as entries in the   //foo/bar /home/foo cifs users,rw,sec=krb5 0 0     form
[12:48] <DammitJim> welsh1lad, can I apt-get install sernet-samba?
[12:49] <welsh1lad> you will need to add there repo to your sources list
[12:49] <DammitJim> welsh1lad, are you saying, to set up an nfs share?
[12:49] <DammitJim> is it free?
[12:49] <DammitJim> have you done the home directory thing with sernet-samba?
[12:49] <welsh1lad> open source yes ,
[12:49] <DammitJim> open source doesn't mean free
[12:50] <welsh1lad> I use it to join linux machines to AD , for user authentication and samba sharing with authentication from windows
[12:50] <zamba> i want to clean up a home directory for all the clutter that comes from a user logging into X.. any suggestions?
[12:50] <welsh1lad> http://www.enterprisesamba.com/samba/
[12:51] <DammitJim> welsh1lad, I'm on that page
[12:51] <DammitJim> I got a lot of reading to do...
[12:51] <Fuchs> DammitJim: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Identity_Management_Guide/configuring-automount.html    uses their IPA, but you can easily just extract the autofs and sssd parts to do it with ubuntu and $whatever as well
[12:51] <welsh1lad> also install krb5-user
[12:52] <welsh1lad> as this handles username and password
[12:52] <Fuchs> note that in all of these cases you have a cifs or nfs server somewhere with the homes on it. And I still wouldn't fully advise it
[12:52] <welsh1lad> from the AD
[12:52] <DammitJim> thanks guys
[12:53] <DammitJim> I guess I'm going to have to read a lot and get my hands dirty
[12:53] <welsh1lad> deb http://ftp.sernet.de/pub/samba/3.6/debian squeeze main
[12:53] <welsh1lad> add this to your sources list
[12:53] <DammitJim> gotta get my bluetooth headphones working and close my door
[12:55] <welsh1lad> anyone completed there lpi 101
[12:55] <welsh1lad> any advice ?
[12:55] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-offtopic welsh1lad
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> welsh1lad  don't mix distro's, is my advice
[12:56] <Guest95901> Hi. I a using ubuntu 14.04 and for a few days now I am experiencing random freezes out of nowhere, the last time it happened when scrolling down in a browser window. When this happens I can only move my mouse but cannot click anything, nor enter the console
[12:56] <OerHeks> welsh1lad, best advise: do not mix debian and ubuntu sources.
[12:56] <Guest95901> is this issue known?
[12:57] <OerHeks> Guest95901, what browser? and what is running on that page, youtube ?
[12:58] <Guest95901> OerHeks: firefox, but it was just a regular text window in JIRA
[12:58] <ioria> Guest95901, nvidia driver ?
[12:58] <Guest95901> the freeze happens in random places where you do not expect any high load or something...
[12:58] <Guest95901> ioria: yes
[12:59] <Guest95901> ioria: if you're asking for the version, how can I find out?
[12:59] <ioria> Guest95901, maybe driver issue
[13:01] <OerHeks> i am waiting for firefox 37.0.2 update, should be out days ago..
[13:01] <bazhang> !info firefox
[13:01] <ioria> Guest95901, try dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[13:01] <OerHeks> So yes, known issues with freezes and memory
[13:02] <OerHeks> bazhang, it is out for Vivid, not for 12.04/14.04/14.10
[13:02] <bazhang> thanks OerHeks
[13:04] <Guest95901> ioria: dpkg tells me that I have nvidia-304, nvidia-common, nvidia-current,  nvidia-libopencl1-304, nvidia-opencl-icd-304 and nvidia-settings installed
[13:04] <ioria> Guest95901, does the freeze happen only in FF ?
[13:07] <deadmund> If I install ubuntu 15.04, can I choose to install KDE 4 or KDE 5?
[13:07] <cq-aux> it's #lshw and google me matey
[13:07] <hateball> deadmund: Yes
[13:08] <OerHeks> deadmund, install kubuntu 15.04 :-)
[13:08] <cq-aux> wow
[13:08] <deadmund> hateball: How difficult is it? I'm assuming if I just install kubuntu-desktop (or just use a kubuntu 15.04 image) I'll get plasma 5 by default.  How can I switch to KDE 4 if I hate it / it's too buggy?
[13:09] <Guest95901> ioria: no, it also happens in other programs
[13:09] <EriC^^> !info kde vivid
[13:09] <Guest95901> ioria: like a java IDE
[13:09] <hateball> deadmund: plasma 5 is indeed default
[13:09] <cq-aux> we here like buggy
[13:09] <cq-aux> glitchy
[13:09] <cq-aux> twitchy
[13:09] <cq-aux> allgoodz
[13:09] <deadmund> !info kubuntu-desktop vivid
[13:09] <deadmund> EriC^^: What are you looking for in that?
[13:10] <EriC^^> !info kde-plasma-desktop vivid
[13:10] <EriC^^> the version
[13:10] <hateball> deadmund: I don't know how complicated it is to switch to a full KDE4 DE in 15.04. a bunch of stuff hasnt been ported to KF5 yet so I think most (all) of kde4 is still packaged for vivid as wel
[13:11] <EriC^^> !info kde-plasma-desktop
[13:11] <deadmund> hateball: Oh really?  Can you be more specific?  What parts are "5" and what parts are "4"
[13:11] <hateball> deadmund: that said, I have been running 15.04 some months, no issues what so ever compared kde4
[13:11] <Guest95901> I don't find anything suspicious in my /var/log/kern.log when the freezes happen
[13:11] <jeffreylevesque> can someone tell me why it's important to install guest additions?
[13:11] <deadmund> hateball: oh really?  Great news!
[13:11] <ioria> Guest95901,  check in lspci or lshw your video card and change/update your driver
[13:12] <cq-aux> I like 4'z start button, but the rest can go to hell
[13:12] <hateball> deadmund: silly things like chromium/other apps not having been ported to the new kwallet for instance, so you'll be running two versions of that...
[13:12] <hateball> but it's transparent to the user mostly
[13:12] <OerHeks> jeffreylevesque, it is only important if you want full screen/usb handling or sharing a folder on your host
[13:12] <deadmund> jeffreylevesque: It just adds some features like easily moving the mouse in / out of the windows, sharing folders, better Graphics acceleration, etc
[13:12] <k1l_> cq-aux: stop that ramblings in here. this channel is support only.
[13:12] <jeffreylevesque> thank you :)
[13:12] <deadmund> hateball: I see.  Thanks for the information.
[13:13] <cq-aux> k1-killer: sori dud
[13:13] <cq-aux> e
[13:13] <hateball> deadmund: the only bug I have stumbled on is one related to plasmashell and transmission-qt. but I mostly use a browser, steam, and a terminal so :)
[13:13] <deadmund> jeffreylevesque: You can even go so far as having application windows from the virtual machine floating around on the host OS desktop (looking like they're running in the native host OS).  Which is neat.
[13:13] <jeffreylevesque> I'm just learning how to use vagrant
[13:14] <jeffreylevesque> it's pretty trivial for the case of public base boxes
[13:14] <jeffreylevesque> but, i forgot why guest additions were important other than the full screen
[13:14] <jeffreylevesque> so, creating a mini wiki, for the future
[13:15] <deadmund> jeffreylevesque: There is nothing "important" about it as far as I know.  It only adds some features.
[13:22] <Guest95901> ioria: ok, I am switching from nvidia204 to nvidia331, let's see if that helps. Thanks for your help up to now
[13:43] <Horsemeds> Hi if im following these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MpichCluster Do I need to do step 1 on all nodes?
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> Horsemeds  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[13:44] <Gamodr> Hi everyone, how can I compile something for a LSB-release instead of ubuntu (e.g. LSB 4.0)?
[13:44] <Gamodr> it's ubuntu 14.04, 64 bit
[13:45] <Gamodr> And preferably, I would also like to optimize for XEON processors
[13:45] <Horsemeds> MonkeyDust im trying to do this on some desktops with 14.04
[13:47] <ZuZuu> I have a problem on upstart Job with java (Could not reserve enough space for code cache)
[13:47] <ZuZuu> A simple upstart job with "java -version" give me the same error message
[13:48] <ZuZuu> And i have enough free memory - the job without upstart work well
[13:48] <ZuZuu> Any idea guys ?
[13:54] <Horsemeds> also in step 4 of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MpichCluster    it says to alter fstab do i do this on all the nodes or just the master?
[13:56] <aleks_> hi
[13:56] <aleks_>  Hi, I have problem with Chromium and Pepper Flash
[13:56] <aleks_> if I check the version via Terminal, it says the latest version 17
[13:56] <aleks_> But if I check via chrome://plugins it says version 11
[13:56] <aleks_> If I check via www.whatismybrowser.com - it also says version 1
[13:57] <aleks_> version 11
[13:57] <aleks_> how do I fix this - it used to show correctly ?
[13:57] <heapc0re> type sudo apt-get update
[13:58] <aleks_> I tried that already, it did not help :(
[13:58] <ph_> ok
[13:58] <heapc0re> reinstall
[13:58] <aleks_> re-install what ? Chromium ?
[13:58] <aleks_> or Pepper Flash ?
[13:58] <heapc0re> that you want to update
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> aleks_  try html5 instead of flash   youtube/com/html5
[13:59] <krabador> aleks_, update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install
[13:59] <marcio> olar bom dia !1!
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> aleks_  try html5 instead of flash   youtube.com/html5
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> !br
[13:59] <vahrama> irc.devcode.org
[13:59] <marcio> oi
[14:00] <aleks_> @krabador I am trying now. let me check. 10x
[14:01] <aleks_> @krabador - it says I have 17.0.0.169 which is the latest available. I tried to restart Chromium but chromium still thinks It is version 11
[14:02] <aleks_> Shockwave Flash 11.2 r999
[14:03] <xangua> aleks_: sounds like you have installed both pepperflash and the netscape plugin
[14:04] <aleks_> Hi @xangua - yes, both are installed. The netscape is used for Firefox and the other one for Chromium. But I have Xubuntu installed for months and it used to work fine before - not sure what went wrong
[14:07] <thms> I want to do a server to server transfer. One I am connected with with SSH, the other I just have FTP access (its a backup storage)
[14:07] <thms> How should I do this ?
[14:08] <jpds> thms: rsync.
[14:09] <thms> jpds: thanks
[14:09] <heapc0re> you can install proftpd and use filezilla to manage your data which is a was more easyer ;)
[14:09] <Angristan> Hi
[14:10] <heapc0re> there are a lot of videos in youtube
[14:10] <heapc0re> how to config
[14:10] <jpds> heapc0re: I would take rsync over FTP, anyday.
[14:11] <heapc0re> okay
[14:12] <thms> heapc0re: I don't have a desktop on the SSH once
[14:12] <thms> gonna use curlftpfs
[14:14] <heapc0re> okay then it seems that there is a problem with using filezilla
[14:18] <rt-03> hi
[14:19] <thelongdark> is there any special sauce one needs to get a serial mouse to work in 14.04?  the one how-to i saw said run inputattach  but that just kind of sits there and hangs
[14:23] <Guest1914> hi, i have a question, but may not be the right chat group. I'm having an issue with provisioning with vagrant onto a windows 2008 server, the recipes are executes but it fails on the executing the role assigned, anyone able to direct me in the right direction?
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Guest1914  why do you come to ubuntu support with a windows question?
[14:24] <thegrreat> Guys is it possible to use a 2,5 laptop hard drive on my pc ?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> Guest1914, ##windows is your channel
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> Guest1914  try ##windows
[14:24] <Guest1914> forgot to mention i'm running it from ubuntu desktop
[14:25] <gingermouse> thegrreat: yes! Just need a mounting bracket
[14:25] <thegrreat> The hard disk mounting in my pc is empty but the hard drive is smaller than the mounting thing but the connector fits perfectly
[14:25] <OerHeks> Guest1914, try #vagrant
[14:26] <Guest1914> basically will be provisioning both ubuntu and windows using vagrant in dev, with proxmox in pro
[14:26] <thegrreat> Becuse it's smaller it's going to move around inside the pc if i move the pc.
[14:26] <gingermouse> thegrreat: try an SSD mounting bracket for a PC. It's the same size as a 3.5" HDD and the SD bolts into it.
[14:29] <gingermouse> *SSD
[14:34] <reborn> which i should install ubuntu mate lts or 14.10?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> reborn, depends on you.  bleeding edge is bloody.  your choice.
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> reborn  14.10 will soon be dead, better stick to LTS
[14:35] <gingermouse> Wait till tomorrow and install 15.04
[14:36] <reborn> tomorrow is released?
[14:36] <gingermouse> Yeah
[14:37] <reborn> okay, i heard ubuntu mate have a lots of positive.
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> reborn  i'm using it, yes, it's cool
[14:38] <reborn> is ubuntu lts do have plank or only 15.04?
[14:39] <gingermouse> Isn't plank an elementary OS thing?
[14:39] <xangua> I guess you need to add a third party repository then
[14:39] <reborn> yep
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> what's plank
[14:41] <reborn> similar to Docky
[14:42] <xangua> it's just a dock
[14:43] <reborn> okay, i am waiting until tomorrow, i hope everything is work out!
[14:43] <lord4163> reborn: Ubuntu MATE is awesome, from version 15.04 it will be an official member of the Ubuntu family
[14:44] <lord4163> reborn: I use the 14.04 version tho
[14:45] <reborn> yeah, i was fall in love with gnome 2 it was really awesome but until ubuntu has to change too much unity, i was back to windows 7, but i decide to stick with xfce.
[14:48] <elev> how do I chat with people?
[14:48] <elev> how do I chat with people?
[14:49] <reborn> this is for helping, or asking, or learning.
[14:49] <petrvs> elev: you're doing it now
[14:49] <xangua> elev you are chatting now, do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[14:49] <elev> I mena like private chat
[14:49] <elev> how can I provate chat
[14:49] <EriC^^> elev: /query <nick>
[14:49] <genii> elev: We currently see what you type here, but the area you're in is for Ubuntu support and not for general chatting. For that you might want to go to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[14:50] <Jakey2> how do i change my default browser to midori
[14:50] <EriC^^> Jakey2: in what de?
[14:50] <elev> msg
[14:50] <Jakey2> EriC^^, lubuntu
[14:51] <elev> ok
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> Jakey2  is there no otion in the browser itself, that you can check?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> option*
[14:51] <captainfantastic> when will ubuntu 15.04 come out?
[14:51] <reborn> tomorrow
[14:52] <Jakey2> MonkeyDust, not that i saw
[14:52] <petrvs> Jakey2: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions#Change_default_browser
[14:52] <Jakey2> thanks
[14:53] <petrvs> captainfantastic: http://mirror.pnl.gov/releases/vivid/
[14:53] <EriC^^> Jakey2: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[14:54] <Jakey2> it seems chrome is in auto mode
[14:54] <Jakey2> and midori in manual mode
[14:54] <captainfantastic> petrvs: I guess I'll just download when the official one comes out. thanks btw
[14:54] <Jakey2> i had checked modori in this setting but chrome still loades
[14:55] <ioria> Jakey2,  try with sudo before the command
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[14:58] <home> ubuntu mate 15.04
[14:58] <petrvs> captainfantastic: why wait
[15:01] <VEndix> aaaaa77qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
[15:01] <Pici> VEndix: Cat-like-typing detected
[15:02] <thegrreat> Cant find anywhere my 2,5 hard drive will fit into my pc...
[15:02] <thegrreat> Is there any other way to put it in there ?
[15:02] <thegrreat> I only have a 2,5 hard drive but the mounting rack inside pc is at the size of a 3,5 hard drive
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> thegrreat  a crowbar?
[15:03] <thegrreat> a crowbar ? XD
[15:04] <zykotick9> thegrreat: fyi, there are 2.5->3.5 adapters (some SSDs come with them) out there...  good luck.
[15:05] <thegrreat> The 2,5 hard drive fits into the hard drive connector on the pc but it's to small for the mount rack wich makes it move around
[15:05] <thegrreat> I cant make it stand still inside the pc
[15:05] <ChunkzZ> is it true ubuntu 15 is out?
[15:05] <mcphail> thegrreat: that isn't an Ubuntu support question, and you already had an answer 40 minutes ago. Please do not keep asking
[15:05] <genii> ChunkzZ: Tomorrow sometime after around 4pm GMT
[15:06] <thegrreat> Well i have ubuntu on the other hard drive
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[15:06] <thegrreat> Installed ubuntu and it wont boot that's why i ask for help here with my hard drive.
[15:07] <cfhowlett> thegrreat, wrong channel.  you have a HARDWARE issue. This is OS (software) support.
[15:07] <thegrreat> ok sorry
[15:07] <ChunkzZ> MonkeyDust, I don't get it?
[15:07] <mcphail> thegrreat: getting help booting Ubuntu is on-topic here. Hardware questions are not, particularly when you don't listen to the answers. 2 people have already told you to get a 2.5 -- 3.5# adaptor bracket
[15:08]  * mcphail is a bit hot in his office and is sorry for being grumpy
[15:09] <ioria> crowbar != bar attended by crows
[15:09] <thegrreat> I understand you mcphail
[15:10] <Rory> ChunkzZ: It is out tomorrow
[15:11] <ChunkzZ> Rory, has unity been improved?
[15:12] <Rory> ChunkzZ: That's a subjective question. Here is an article from The Register about ubuntu 15.04 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/02/ubuntu_15_04_flavours_vivid_vervet/
[15:12] <petrvs> never had to use unity anyway
[15:15] <polohemd> Hello. I got a problem with a wireless Keyboard/mouse system an USB mice generaly at my ubuntu. after starting up the mouse is operating normal but after 2 - 20 minutes it freezes and i can´t use it anymore. the keyboard which is connectet to the same receiver at the same port is working well and got no problem
[15:15] <ChunkzZ> thanks Rory
[15:15] <Rory> polohemd: Does the same problem occur when you use the wireless mouse on another computer?
[15:15] <petrvs> polohemd: change batteries
[15:16] <Rory> Well I didn't want to just SAY it, petrvs...
[15:16] <petrvs> Rory: did it for you
[15:16] <polohemd> batteries a new and the system is working now on my laptop with win8 for hours
[15:16] <petrvs> I wonder if usb power saving could break the mouse but not the keyboard
[15:17] <polohemd> the system wich is running ubuntu now was a windows system with no problem all time
[15:17] <prp-e> Hi guys, I have some questions about Dark Ambient vocals in Audacity. First, I like to make my sound like "Burzum", specially in Dunkelheit, How can I do it?
[15:17] <prp-e> Actually, I wanna make Lo-Fi vocals.
[15:18] <cfhowlett> prp-e, #opensourcemusicans      would be a better place to ask
[15:18] <polohemd> because the keyboard is working fine I think its a ubuntu problem with usb mice :)
[15:18] <tgm4883> polohemd: any other USB devices plugged in?
[15:18] <sharazam> Can installing CUDA (without NVIDIA drivers) crash my system? I've made bad experiences with this in the past. Running 14.04
[15:18] <polohemd> nope. only the receiver is connected
[15:18] <tgm4883> polohemd: what mouse
[15:19] <prp-e> cfhowlett: The channel doesn't exist
[15:19] <polohemd> Logitech cordless canada 310
[15:21] <tgm4883> polohemd: I know this sounds odd, but have you tried fresh batteries? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2067011
[15:22] <mcphail> polohemd: I have intermittent problems with a Logitech keyboard/mouse combo (but not with my older version). Haven't tracked down the cause yet despite doing a bit of kernel hacking
[15:23] <polohemd> the batteries was my first suspicion. they are new
[15:23] <mcphail> polohemd: switching the keyboard or mouse off then on sorts it for a while. Is that the same with you?
[15:24] <polohemd> no. the mouse freezes and is no more working after a short period of working
[15:24] <sgo11> hi, I am looking for a way to setup a video/voice chat server on ubuntu. People use different clients (mobile app/PCs/Browsers) to do video/voice call on that server. When I google this, google always show me solution about voip and Asterisk etc... I don't know much about asterisk, but it seems an asterisk server has to communicate with third-party trunk. this is not what I want. I don't want to connect any third-party services. any suggestions? thanks.
[15:25] <tgm4883> polohemd: odd. I had a similar issue but it was due to a plantronics headset I had plugged in
[15:26] <polohemd> and at this moment my ubuntu is broken down?!?
[15:26] <tgm4883> polohemd: anything in the logs?
[15:26] <spdreamin> ??
[15:27] <tgm4883> polohemd: /var/log/syslog ~/.xsession-errors
[15:27] <polohemd> just a moment it´s restarting
[15:27] <tgm4883> polohemd: maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log too
[15:27] <tgm4883> polohemd: ok, then you'll need to look at the old versions of those logs probably
[15:29] <polohemd> org.freedesktop.DBus.error.spawn.permissionsinvalid
[15:31] <polohemd> tgm4883 as I can see there was a chrash while updating the system
[15:31] <Saire> I use Ubuntu trusty on Nokia N900,and who can tell me how to set long-touch-screen as mouse-right-button?
[15:33] <shudon> hi all :) i have this mount: overlayfs on / type overlayfs (rw,lowerdir=/web-server,upperdir=/web-server-overlay)\
[15:33] <shudon> how do i umount this?
[15:33] <tgm4883> polohemd: hmm, not sure. As someone else suggested, perhaps due to usb suspend. Have you tried disabling that?
[15:34] <tgm4883> polohemd: I've got to run to the data center for a bit, maybe try some of these http://superuser.com/questions/586411/debug-mouse-freezing-on-ubuntu
[15:35] <escargotdu25> hi I'm a new user for xubuntu and have a question
[15:37] <escargotdu25> my question is : how can I update xubuntu so that I can donload and use VLC media player and oppenoffice ? thanks for your help
[15:38] <petrvs> escargotdu25: can't you use those now?
[15:38] <k1l_> escargotdu25: install it. either from softwarecenter or from terminal with apt-get install
[15:38] <ugnius> list elementary
[15:38] <ugnius> sorry :P
[15:38] <escargotdu25> no I can't I have dowloaded VLC media player but I can't install it
[15:38] <k1l_> escargotdu25: like "sudo apt-get install vlc libreoffice"
[15:39] <SchrodingersScat> escargotdu25: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install vlc libreoffice
[15:39] <k1l_> escargotdu25: libreoffice is the new openoffice.
[15:39] <petrvs> escargotdu25: downloaded how?
[15:39] <escargotdu25> on 01.net
[15:40] <k1l_> escargotdu25: on ubuntu, you dont load stuff from websites. ubuntu offers already a lot of programs made working with ubuntu in the official repositories
[15:40] <polohemd> tgm4883 i´ve read the text in your link, but now the mouse is down and i don´t have a idea how to open a terminal to type in the text
[15:40] <tgm4883> polohemd: ctrl+alt+t
[15:41] <polohemd> too late, i try to start again :D
[15:41] <ioria> escargotdu25, it's not like on windows, also for security reasons
[15:41]  * tgm4883 sighs
[15:42] <ioria> escargotdu25, you can browse Software Center or Synaptic Package Manager
[15:42] <petrvs> escargotdu25: yes on Unix systems in general, as k1l_ says, we have package managers, you don't need to acquire installers from random places
[15:43] <reborn> what's useful for bootable usb apps?
[15:43] <escargotdu25> ioria what does it mean ?
[15:44] <ioria> escargotdu25, on windows we brows the Net  and install random software, righ ?
[15:44] <k1l_> escargotdu25: software center ist like the app store on your iphone. you can choose software there that gets installed.
[15:44] <escargotdu25> kll how can do this ?
[15:44] <ioria> escargotdu25, on Ubuntu/Linux thare are 'Repositories',
[15:44] <k1l_> escargotdu25: open software center. the search for vlc. click install button
[15:45] <petrvs> reborn: for what?
[15:48] <reborn> live bootable
[15:48] <polohemd> when i try to start ...remove powernap... the system said it couldn´t be done because the was a fault. i should give in another sudo order
[15:49] <polohemd> now its repairing the update crahs i think
[15:49] <escargotdu25> kll and ioria : when I try to install VLC mp it is sais : available ferom "universe" source and thenI nedd to authenticate with a password
[15:51] <SchrodingersScat> escargotdu25: sounds right
[15:51] <ioria> escargotdu25, go on it's normal,  authentication is required every time you install something
[15:52] <escargotdu25> ioria how can I authenticate ? what password should I type in ?
[15:53] <ioria> escargotdu25, you set up it when you installed the system
[15:53] <polohemd> tgm4883 now i could do whats in the link but the terminal said the package powernap isn´t installed?
[15:53] <sharazam> Which CUDA installation should I take? Online installer, .run or .deb? Do I have to switch off GUI for the installation? Instructions don't say anything about this.
[15:54] <escargotdu25> ioria what do you mean ? how can I refind this password ?
[15:54] <ioria> escargotdu25, when did you install Xubuntu ?
[15:54] <SchrodingersScat> escargotdu25: your user password, if you have those privileges
[15:54] <escargotdu25> ioria a few months ago
[15:55] <k1l_> escargotdu25: type your password. the user password
[15:55] <ioria> escargotdu25, did you choose automatic login ? i mean after boot you are already on Dsktop ?
[15:56] <ioria> Desktop
[15:56] <escargotdu25> kll and schrondingerscat : my user password when i want toacceed to the desktop ?
[15:56] <k1l_> escargotdu25: yes
[15:57] <escargotdu25> ok I try again so
[15:58] <peppelakappa> hello chan, I'm having a strange problem with kernel 3.19
[15:59] <peppelakappa> sometimes the system completely locks up, I cannot even use a tty, anyone experiencing this problem?
[15:59] <escargotdu25> kll it said failed to download repository information, check your internet connection
[16:00] <k1l_> escargotdu25: open a terminal. then type in there "lsb_release -d" and schow the output here please
[16:00] <permanent> hello
[16:00] <OerHeks> peppelakappa, on Vivid?
[16:01] <escargotdu25> kll what do you mean with open a terminal ?
[16:01] <permanent> how to know that a certain
[16:02] <petrvs> permanent: I miss you
[16:02] <k1l_> escargotdu25: "open a terminal" is a very easy task. i dont know how to explain that in more easy way. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/terminalxfceprecise.jpg
[16:02] <peppelakappa> OerHeks, yes, currently on vivid
[16:02] <ioria> escargotdu25, press Alt + F2 and type xterm
[16:03] <polohemd> is there a button like in windows where i can change my energy saving settings?
[16:03] <polohemd> sorry... i was blind
[16:05] <OerHeks> peppelakappa, join #ubuntu+1 until release, i know that will be tomorrow.
[16:05] <demahum> Usually, at what time (hour) new Ubuntu version is released? When we can expect that 15.04 will be out?
[16:05] <peppelakappa> OerHeks, okay thanks
[16:05] <k1l_> demahum: plan with afternoon. but i will not tell you what timezone ;p
[16:06] <petrvs> demahum: beta's out already
[16:06] <demahum> k1l_: hahahha... That's a good one. :D
[16:06] <demahum> petrvs: I know. :)
[16:06] <escargotdu25> kll ok I found it it is like an old DOS command line then what should I do ?
[16:06] <demahum> k1l_: If I guess for the first time, will you tell me if I guessed?
[16:06] <demahum> k1l_: I mean at first try. :D
[16:08] <ioria> escargotdu25, type  lsb_release -d
[16:08] <DarkSeed> Tomorrow 15.04 ???
[16:08] <demahum> DarkSeed: If that is a question, yes. :D
[16:08] <petrvs> either it will be tomorrow or it won't be
[16:08] <petrvs> the only thing we can be sure of is that it doesn't matter
[16:09] <tilerendering> hi
[16:09] <escargotdu25> ioria i did it it says Ubuntu 12.10
[16:09] <DarkSeed> thxs demahum :DDD
[16:09] <petrvs> hi tile
[16:09] <tilerendering> ubuntu 14.04 desktop 32 bit not detecting hdmi display (yes, hdmi display was connected and running at the time of ubuntu boot)
[16:10] <k1l_> escargotdu25: ok. the problem is you installed a old version of ubuntu that is not working anymore.
[16:10] <ioria> escargotdu25, you are not updated, repositories are no lon geravailable
[16:10] <tilerendering> and yes, that laptop has an hdmi connection
[16:10] <tilerendering> any ideas ?
[16:10] <ioria> escargotdu25, it means that you cannot install nothing
[16:10] <k1l_> escargotdu25: since you would need to do 3 updates in a row with some manual editing and you installed just some months ago i think you better make a new install of 14.04
[16:10] <escargotdu25> kll and ioria what can I do so ?
[16:12] <k1l_> escargotdu25: with your limited knowledge its easier to make a new install of ubuntu 14.04.
[16:12] <ioria> escargotdu25, yes, you 'could' do some, but it's better a fresh install of Ubuntu 14.4
[16:13] <ioria> escargotdu25, backup the data , download the .iso Ubuntu 14 , burn it, and install
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> escargotdu25  backup and fresh install would be the fastest, easiest, cleanest
[16:14] <petrvs> tilerendering: what graphics driver?
[16:14] <escargotdu25> kll and ioria so I should type in google ubuntu 14.04 andf try to install it ? and will it uninstall the older version ?
[16:14] <tilerendering> petrvs: I just shut down the machine because no answers came in.
[16:14] <ioria> escargotdu25, go to the Ubuntu website, ... the old will  be erased
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> escargotdu25  go to this place: ubuntu.com/download
[16:14] <tilerendering> but basically that´s not how a userfriendly OS should work
[16:14] <tilerendering> is there no simple solution to the problem ?
[16:15] <tilerendering> if not, I ll probably jsut buy a vga to hdmi adapter because frankly spending 3 hours in fixing the problem is more expensive than another display.
[16:15] <escargotdu25> ioria and monkeydust thanks I try it
[16:16] <ioria> escargotdu25, just pay attention at you pc... 32    or 64,   Legacy bios, or uefi   stuff like that
[16:16] <petrvs> tilerendering: well, not going to be able to help you at all if the machine is off
[16:18] <mauro_> Hello! I am running a lightweight ubuntu utopic version on a Virtual Machine. I can ping  and traceroute the internet (google.com) from the VM but apt-get update and wget won't work. This is what happens when i try them: http://pastebin.com/gUATfxRG. I checked apt sources and network ifaces, and everything seems ok. What could I do more?
[16:18] <polohemd> step by step im going forward... now my system is running smooth again. some other ideas because my freezing mouse?
[16:19] <tilerendering> petrvs: basically I was hoping that there was a utility out there which would take off that kind of hassle or work from a user
[16:20] <petrvs> tilerendering: no doubt there is
[16:20] <tilerendering> if it turns out to be a “edit this config download that driver there etc. spend 4 hours in trying to fix it” thing, it´s not really what I need at the moment after a day full of work :D
[16:20] <rypervenche> mauro_: That pastebin no longer exists.
[16:20] <rypervenche> mauro_: Oops, nevermind.
[16:20] <tilerendering> so, I ll just hope a vga to hdmi adapter will do it, and if not, I ll install windows and that´s it
[16:21] <petrvs> tilerendering: there's a possibility of it being that way for any OS
[16:21]  * petrvs shrugs
[16:21] <petrvs> g'luck
[16:21] <tilerendering> yeah
[16:21] <tilerendering> thanks
[16:21] <reborn> don't give up, tiler
[16:21] <ChunkzZ> what kernel is being used for 15.04?
[16:21] <petrvs> ChunkzZ: does it matter?
[16:21] <ChunkzZ> yes
[16:21] <petrvs> ChunkzZ: why?
[16:22] <rypervenche> mauro_: What is this light-weight distribution called?
[16:22] <daftykins> tilerendering: i think spending money on such an item would be unwise
[16:22] <OerHeks> mauro_, why ports? and is your network bridged?
[16:23] <tilerendering> daftykins: why
[16:23] <petrvs> I think spending 3 hours on something then asking for more help, then turning off your computer, then saying you're just going to install another OS is unwise =)
[16:23] <petrvs> but hey that's me
[16:24] <rking> Everytime I reboot workspaces in unity-tweak-tool stops working and I have to go disable / re-enable it for it to active again. Is this a bug? I'm running 14.04
[16:24] <daftykins> tilerendering: because you're obfuscating the interconnect between card and display, VGA is inherently terrible and has issues communicating display capabilities, so you're no doubt just going to be down another rabbit hole there. your #1 query should have been "what graphics card do i have? do i need to install a proprietary driver because the manufacturer hates open source?"
[16:27] <petrvs> rking: what stops working?
[16:27] <daftykins> virtual desktops.
[16:27] <rking> The hotcorners. I apologize for not putting that.
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ  i'm in 15.04 right now, it uses 3.19.0-14-generic
[16:27] <petrvs> rking: they disappear?
[16:28] <rking> @daftykins @petrvs The virtual desktops still work if I manually click it on the unity bar. It's the hot corners that stop working.
[16:28] <daftykins> ok i don't know anything about that
[16:28] <rking> A logout, or restart of X, or a reboot all do it.
[16:30] <petrvs> rking: oh for exposé and the like?
[16:30] <rking> @petrvs Yes
[16:31] <petrvs> rking: but you can still move windows around?
[16:31] <polohemd> the problem with my freezing mouse is getting more funny. last turn it worked for 15 minutes, after freezing I did a restart and after this it was freezing after 2 minutes?!?
[16:31] <xyzwhatever> yeah ubuntu really fukked up this one, I also have one computer where the mouse cursor disappears over editor windows
[16:31] <rking> @petrvs Expose as a whole still is functional, so is my desktop. It's that the HOTCORNERS stop working everytime I restart X, the desktop, or logout.
[16:31] <mauro_> rypervenche: the distribution is an utopic version for armhf architectures.
[16:31] <rking> I'm just trying to figure out why
[16:32] <petrvs> rking: but you can still move windows around?
[16:32] <daftykins> !language | xyzwhatever
[16:32] <ChunkzZ> MonkeyDust, you on the beta?
[16:33] <rking> @petrvs, Yes, everything works except hotcorners until I go disable / re-enable.
[16:33] <rking> @petrvs then hotcorners works again
[16:33] <petrvs> I will take that as an answer of 'yes'
[16:33] <mauro_> OerHeks: because I am using an arch optimized distro and I found all the stuff from there. Anyway yes, it is a bridged network.
[16:34] <petrvs> rking: this happens whenever you startup?
[16:34] <rking> @petrvs "rking> @petrvs, Yes, everything works except hotcorners until I go disable / re-enable"
[16:34] <petrvs> it's just I didn't ask about everything =)
[16:34] <rking> Startup, logout, reboot, restart X
[16:34] <petrvs> sounds like a bug to me
[16:35] <petrvs> the easy fix is to add a script to disable/re-enable in your auto start
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ  ubuntu-mate
[16:35] <ChunkzZ> yeah but the beta?
[16:35] <rking> @petrvs, Yeah I have already done that for a fix. I just was curious if anyone knew what the hell was causing it.
[16:35] <ChunkzZ> @ MonkeyDust
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ  and make that 3.19.0-15-generic
[16:36] <ChunkzZ> still haven't said if it's the beta or not MonkeyDust ....
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> ChunkzZ  no, i guess it's the RC, lsb_release no longer shows "develooment branch"
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> typo*
[16:37] <ChunkzZ> oh, right. okay...
[16:39] <RonWhoCares> I suddenly can't print.  Any one have a solution?
[16:41] <escargotdu25> ioria I just downloaded the ubuntu 14.04 version and burned a dvd with it
[16:42] <petrvs> RonWhoCares: what happens when you try
[16:42] <RonWhoCares> The computer acts the normal way.  The small window opens and then shows the job is completed
[16:43] <RonWhoCares> The printer doesn't do anything
[16:43] <RonWhoCares> I've rebooted
[16:43] <RonWhoCares> I've powered off and back on
[16:43] <RonWhoCares> I've ran updates
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> !enter | RonWhoCares
[16:43] <RonWhoCares> I've turned off and on both printers
[16:43] <petrvs> RonWhoCares: what type of printer/s?
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> RonWhoCares  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights too
[16:44] <RonWhoCares> Brother MFC-J435W & HP LazerJet 1012
[16:44] <RonWhoCares> ok MonkeyDust
[16:45] <RonWhoCares> I have both "Print Status" windows open.  There is no reference to the new job being added.
[16:45] <escargotdu25> ioria should I now re-run the pc to acceed to the dos and change the starting session from the dvd ?
[16:45] <c0mrad3> well my collage uses a wpa/wpa2 enterprise wifi so i have to login each time in the browser, is there a way to script it so that I need not go through the whole process every day ??
[16:51] <luxermin> hi
[16:51] <luxermin> How to install the patch in the new kernel linux 4.0?
[16:52] <daftykins> 4.0 is not standard nor supported with any release technically
[16:52] <faust> also define "the patch"
[16:53] <luxermin> How to install a kernel patch to fix
[16:53] <daftykins> and thus the circle goes on
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> luxermin  i guess your question is beyond the scope of this channel
[16:54] <daftykins> luxermin: still unsupported - and without adding additional information to your query, providing an answer doesn't get any easier
[16:54] <petrvs> luxermin: same as any other patch
[16:55] <petrvs> luxermin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[16:55] <luxermin> I use "patch -p0 patch-4.0" ??
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> luxermin  type /j #ubuntu-kernel
[17:07] <apawl> Is there any way to see the name of the previous command run (from a bash script perspective) on ubuntu?
[17:08] <deadmund> apawl: press the up arrow key on your keyboard
[17:08] <deadmund> apawl: Assuming you haven't closed that terminal
[17:08] <faust> what does it mean "bash script perspective" ?
[17:08] <apawl> If I see that $? is not 0, I'd like to say "hey, $PREVIOUS_COMMAND failed"
[17:08] <apawl> deadmund: faust as in no user interaction required -- done from a .sh
[17:08] <deadmund> apawl: Oh! That's interesting!
[17:08] <faust> apawl: fc
[17:09] <deadmund> WHOA
[17:09] <faust> !man fc
[17:09] <deadmund> WHOA, HOLY CRAP.  fc is the most useful thing I have seen in years.
[17:09] <faust> ok I've invented man command
[17:10] <apawl> faust: looks like that is perfect. thank you.
[17:10] <faust> apawl: 'welcome :(
[17:10] <faust> :)*
[17:10] <deadmund> So glad I randomly joined the channel just now.
[17:10] <petrvs> help fc
[17:11] <faust> !help fc
[17:11] <faust> help fc
[17:11] <petrvs> apawl: but actually what people do is this: command || echo 'failed'
[17:11] <petrvs> you can even do command && echo 'win' || echo 'fail'
[17:11] <faust> this ^
[17:11] <apawl> petrvs: That's pretty much what I want to do, but command || clean_up_and_die
[17:12] <apawl> and in the clean_up_and_die, I want to actually show the command that failed
[17:12] <JewFro298> y makefile isn't appending to a text file in mint, but it does in another distro
[17:12] <shudon> i get ENXIO when i try to access /dev/urandom in overlayfs after doing a bind mount for my /dev into my overlayfs upper :C anyone have any idea what to do? ubuntu 14.04 herte
[17:12] <petrvs> clean_up_and_die() { while(true); do shred ...
[17:12] <apawl> :)
[17:12] <JewFro298> ./exec &>> results.txt is outputing to stdout instead of the text file. Any ideas?
[17:12] <petrvs> didn't know about fc, wonder if I can find a use for it
[17:13] <petrvs> ./exec > results.txt 2>&1
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> !mint | JewFro298
[17:13] <petrvs> erm, pardon
[17:13] <petrvs> ./exec >> results.txt 2>&1
[17:13] <petrvs> see if it's any different
[17:15] <petrvs> or ./exec 2>&1 | tee -a results.txt
[17:15] <gurr> #leave
[17:17] <faust> shudon: that should not happen, but I cannot help you without  more information, also I think that you are not using "stock" kernel so your problem is probably "unsupported"
[17:18] <shudon> faust: then you shall have it! https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8831040
[17:18] <shudon> shudon: i didn't build any custom kernel...
[17:18] <shudon> err
[17:18] <shudon> why do i keep referencing my own nick...
[17:19] <shudon> Linux don-OptiPlex-745 3.13.0-49-generic #83-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 10 20:11:33 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:19] <faust> shudon: ok I didn't know that trusty had overlayfs
[17:20] <shudon> faust: neither did i, but apparently it does :o
[17:20] <faust> maybe it is broken :P
[17:20] <c0mrad3> well my collage uses a wpa/wpa2 enterprise wifi so i have to login each time in the browser, is there a way to script it so that I need not go through the whole process every day ??
[17:21] <shudon> faust: :C
[17:21] <shudon> maybe if
[17:21] <shudon> instead of doing a bind mount to upperdir for /dev
[17:21] <shudon> maybe i should chroot and then mount -t proc etc.
[17:22] <faust> Actually I do a similar thing (but on a different distro/kernel) and I have no problem bind mounting dev before chrooting
[17:24] <JewFro298> petrvs: Thanks, that worked! Any idea why the shorthand doesn't?
[17:24] <petrvs> JewFro298: help | head | grep dash
[17:25] <petrvs> JewFro298: rather, echo $SHELL
[17:25] <JewFro298> /bin/bash
[17:25] <petrvs> dunno, ask #bash
[17:26] <JewFro298> lol okay
[17:26] <petrvs> that is, after you're sure whatever you're running is being run by bash
[17:26] <petrvs> you could still be talking about some cron job or something using dash <shrug>
[17:26] <petrvs> as cute as &> is, though
[17:26] <petrvs> it doesn't really save much time over 2>&1 at the end
[17:26] <petrvs> it does make the code quite bash specific, however
[17:27] <faust> shudon: try ask on #ubuntu-kernel it seems that trusty's generic kenrel backported an old patch for overlay fs. Maybe it is really broken.
[17:27] <JewFro298> petrvs: Oh, it's /bin/sh when echoed from the makefile
[17:27] <shudon> thanks faust
[17:28] <petrvs> JewFro298: =)
[17:28] <shudon> faust: i have another idea of what to do, but, now i have a new problem
[17:28] <JewFro298> petrvs: Lol, so how do I have make use bash?
[17:28] <shudon> my dev bind mount won't umount (EBUSY) https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8831043 it looks like kdevtmpfs is using it -- what is this process?
[17:29] <EriC^^> JewFro298: you don't, you write portable code :P
[17:29] <petrvs> JewFro298: #!/bin/bash
[17:29] <petrvs> yeah or you could just write portable code
[17:29] <shudon> ohhh
[17:29] <shudon> because of /dev/pts bind mount
[17:29] <petrvs> kinda depends on what you're making what the simplest course is
[17:29] <petrvs> if it's a make file, probably stick with posix compliance
[17:29] <shudon> yep that solved that small problem at least
[17:30] <JewFro298> It's just for a homework assignment, so setting the shell is easiest
[17:30] <petrvs> y'know what else is nicer about 2>&1 | tee
[17:31] <petrvs> no chance of accidentally doing one > instead of >>
[17:31] <petrvs> tee -a
[17:32] <robse> hi
[17:32] <robse> where to go for vivid bugs ?
[17:32] <petrvs> hi robs
[17:32] <petrvs> launchpad
[17:32] <robse> isn't there a channel ?
[17:32] <robse> (support channel)
[17:32] <petrvs> +1
[17:33] <petrvs> #ubuntu+1, that is
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> !15.04
[17:33] <robse> oh thanks
[17:33] <petrvs> MonkeyDust: nothing like gratis spam
[17:34] <kumala> hi! I'm interested in platform as a service. Do you know a channel for that?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !alis | kumala
[17:36] <torsten__> hi
[17:36] <torsten__> im new here
[17:36] <kumala> thanks lotuspsychje! If anyone has a recommendation I'll also take it
[17:36] <petrvs> torsten__: hi
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> torsten__: you joined an ubuntu support channel to solve problems
[17:37] <faust> kumala: https://github.com/ripienaar/free-for-dev#paas
[17:37] <faust> maybe it is interesting
[17:39] <kumala> haha yes faust that's indeed interesting thanks. But as you can see the list is long and I am discovering more quite often, hence my need to talk to some experts for guidance. Because actually trying them all is time consuming although fun.
[17:40] <faust> kumala: maybe you should try to ask in the channel of the software/platform you are willing to run
[17:40] <faust> I don't think we have a generic #paas
[17:41] <petrvs> paas is inherently generic
[17:41] <petrvs> cloud is meaningless
[17:41] <petrvs> if you want a hosting service, lists abound
[17:42] <kumala> yep, I don't want a service, I want to build a private one.
[17:42] <petrvs> kumala: so build one, what's stopping you
[17:44] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  I've lowered TTL on a website, waited the period, updated the nameservers, and every whois site is telling me it's correctly updated, but when I visit the site I'm still seeing it at the old server.  Is there DNS cached by default on Ubuntu 14.04 that I can flush?
[17:45] <ikonia> MarcGuay: dnsmasq
[17:45] <petrvs> MarcGuay: sure it's not just your isp?
[17:45] <kumala> petrvs, I don't mean from scratch, the idea is to use one of the products for that purpose, but there are a lot now, most of them new, not all of them ready for prod... and comparing them all is time consuming. And I need to narrow down the options that make sense, because it's not a simple choice, and changing my mind later on would mean lots of work. So I need info. I'll keep looking, thanks for the advices!
[17:45] <MarcGuay> petrvs: How can I tell?
[17:45] <petrvs> kumala: #web?
[17:45] <MarcGuay> ikonia: I'll google that thanks
[17:45] <shudon> faust: hey
[17:46] <petrvs> MarcGuay: second party/isp opinion would satisfy me
[17:46] <faust> shudon: yay
[17:46] <shudon> faust: so i umounted my dev, dev/pts, and proc bind mounts from my overlayfs upperdir, and re-bind-mounted them within the overlayfs mount point itself. now it works :)
[17:46] <MarcGuay> petrvs: Another person on a different ISP has the same issue
[17:46] <shudon> faust: just fyi in case someone else has the same problem :)
[17:47] <petrvs> MarcGuay: it can take a day or two
[17:47] <petrvs> MarcGuay: sad but true
[17:47] <MarcGuay> petrvs: Even if I lowered the TTL and waited the intial period?
[17:47] <faust> shudon: good!
[17:47] <petrvs> MarcGuay: pretty sure
[17:47] <petrvs> MarcGuay: might ask #web yourself
[17:47] <MarcGuay> petrvs: Thanks
[17:49] <ikonia> MarcGuay: your TTL doesn't impact slaves cache
[17:50] <petrvs> I want to say wireless providers get you new stuff faster
[17:50] <petrvs> so check on your phone
[17:50] <petrvs> but that just could be a misremembrance
[17:51] <ikonia> thats just not true
[17:51] <sizeoftank> test
[17:51] <ikonia> wireless providers have the same dns rules as everyone else
[17:52] <petrvs> well, the same constraints
[17:52] <petrvs> different isps do get things at different rates
[17:52] <petrvs> or at least, different end users of different isps
[17:52] <petrvs> sizeoftank: pass
[17:52] <ikonia> petrvs: no, the master sets the ttl and expire time
[17:52] <ikonia> so that is outside of the control of ISP's
[17:53] <petrvs> wasn't suggesting it was wholly under their control
[17:53] <ikonia> then how can you suggest wirless ISP's get it "quicker"
[17:53] <petrvs> like I said, I remember it happening
[17:53] <ikonia> how ?
[17:53] <petrvs> how?
[17:54] <ikonia> if it's outside the control of the ISP
[17:54] <petrvs> because isp x is not isp y
[17:54] <petrvs> end point a is not end point b
[17:54] <petrvs> things differ
[17:54] <ikonia> petrvs: that makes no sense
[17:54] <ikonia> petrvs: as the TTL and expire is set on the master, not the ISP
[17:54] <petrvs> I don't think it makes sense either
[17:54] <petrvs> but it happens
[17:54] <ikonia> it doesn't
[17:54] <petrvs> it does
[17:54] <ikonia> the only thing the ISP controls is the slave cache flush
[17:54] <petrvs> I haven't said anything about what isps control
[17:54] <petrvs> so that doesn't interest me
[17:54] <ikonia> then don't make stuff up
[17:55] <petrvs> don't make stuff up because I haven't made stuff up?
[17:55] <petrvs> okay, sure thing
[17:55] <ikonia> thanks
[17:55] <petrvs> my pleasure
[17:55] <ioria> "Your TTL value is certainly not responsible for your slow internet connection, so changing it will have no effect. –  Georg Schölly "
[17:56] <ioria> but i don't  know  whois Georg Schölly   : P
[17:57] <petrvs> ioria: that for me?
[17:57] <RonWhoCares> I have my printing sorted out now.
[17:57] <petrvs> RonWhoCares: oh, what was it?
[17:57] <ioria> nope
[17:57] <petrvs> ioria: good :)
[17:57] <petrvs> MarcGuay: ^
[17:58] <RonWhoCares> One of the printers is wireless.  Not even a USB connection.  Somehow the network lost track of the printer
[17:58] <petrvs> ah wireless
[17:58] <petrvs> and the other?
[17:59] <RonWhoCares> Well it formed a 2 printer union.  When the one went on strike so did the other one.  Got the first printer working and all ofthe sudden the other printer works again   and it is wired
[17:59] <petrvs> oh, neat
[18:02] <genii> RonWhoCares: Possibly they are both set to use the same IP
[18:02] <RonWhoCares> likely
[18:02] <chenwei> exit
[18:15] <skinux> I'm trying to find installation directory for Scene Builder 2. I can launch it from Dash or application menu, but I cannot find it anywhere on disk, not even a launcher file.
[18:15] <EriC^^> skinux: how do you launch it from the dash?
[18:16] <skinux> Unity Dash, type it in and click the icon.
[18:16] <EriC^^> type grep Scene /usr/share/applications/*
[18:17] <EriC^^> do you get a .desktop file?
[18:17] <skinux> Yes, but for Scene Builder 1.1, not Scene Builder 2.0
[18:18] <skinux> 1.1 was downloaded manually, 2.0 was installed via PPA
[18:18] <EriC^^> skinux: if you type Scene in the dash how many icons do you get?
[18:18] <skinux> Just one.
[18:18] <EriC^^> it has to be in /usr/share/applications to show up in the dash
[18:19] <EriC^^> so that's it i guess
[18:19] <EriC^^> type grep Exec /file/that/showed/up
[18:20] <ioria> !ping
[18:20] <ioria>   /opt
[18:27] <aznable> Could someone please give me an unaffiliated hostmask in here :)
[18:27] <EriC^^> aznable: #freenode
[18:27] <aznable> thank you EriC^^
[18:29] <DeMiNe0> When I # modprobe aes, I get the following error: modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'padlock_aes': No such device. I added an alias for aes aes_generic to my modprobe.d aliases, but still get that same error when I re-run mod probe. Any idea's? Ubuntu server 14.04
[18:30] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: it's looking for a module thats not there
[18:30] <ikonia> is that module part of the kernel - or have you manually added it
[18:31] <DeMiNe0> It should be part of the kernel. Atleast it is for older versions. Lemme check
[18:33] <DeMiNe0> modprobe --resolve-alias aes shows the padlock_aes module
[18:33] <DeMiNe0> hrmmm
[18:33] <DeMiNe0> not seeing it in lsmod though
[18:34] <ikonia> that wasn't what I asked
[18:34] <DeMiNe0> I only see aes_x86_64
[18:34] <ikonia> is it part of the stock kernel package
[18:34] <ikonia> or is it provided either via an addon pacakge or an external process
[18:34] <DeMiNe0> I'm not sure how to check that
[18:34] <DeMiNe0> I'm trying to setup LUKS via the guide on the ubuntu support site
[18:35] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: show me the guide you are following
[18:35] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: You're using a live CD?
[18:36] <DeMiNe0> Nope, not live.
[18:36] <DeMiNe0> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto3
[18:37] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: what version of ubuntu are you using
[18:37] <DeMiNe0> 14.04
[18:37] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: and what version does it say that guide is for
[18:37] <DeMiNe0> Also tried this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[18:37] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: and what version does it say that guide is for
[18:38] <ioria> cool ubuntu 6
[18:38] <DeMiNe0> I don't see version specifics on that page.
[18:38] <ikonia> it says at the top
[18:38] <ikonia> 5.10 / 6.06
[18:39] <ikonia> it's in the title
[18:39] <ioria> libcrypto  a bit different then ?
[18:39] <DeMiNe0> I also referenced this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage Which outlines the problem I'm havng and supplies a fix. But the fix doesn't work.
[18:40] <mantys89> DeMiNe0: You should try https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/
[18:41] <DeMiNe0> I've considered it, but all of our boxes are allready using LUKS so management wants to stick with that
[18:41] <newuser> Hey, my screen keeps switching around resolution when I for example log into the system, going into settings/display, etc. Sometimes it don't, it just goes black for a second, any solutions?
[18:41] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: so that second guide suggests you are missing a hardware encryption device - but again that is for the 2.6.24 kernel - what kernel are you using
[18:41] <ikonia> I suspect it will be a 3.0 kernel
[18:41] <DeMiNe0> way later
[18:42] <DeMiNe0> 3.13
[18:42] <ikonia> right - so again why are you using documentation that is way too old for your system
[18:42] <DeMiNe0> Because it's the only one I was able to find.
[18:43] <DeMiNe0> Figured ubuntu kept their documentation up to date.
[18:43] <DeMiNe0> Guess not.
[18:43] <ikonia> it's community docs
[18:43] <ikonia> not official docs
[18:44] <Naughx> Wiki?
[18:45] <Bray90820> Can someone help me add my NAS to fstab so it can mount on boot every tutorial I have followed didn't work for me
[18:46] <ikonia> Bray90820: so whats the actual problem
[18:47] <Bray90820> ikonia: I want my NAS to be mounted on boot I have tried verious different things but non of them worked
[18:47] <ikonia> so what does your current fstab line look like
[18:48] <Bray90820> ikonia: For the NAS I wanna mount?
[18:48] <ikonia> yes
[18:49] <Bray90820> ikonia: As of right now there  there isn't one everything I tried failed so I removed
[18:49] <Bray90820> I can create one if you want
[18:50] <ikonia> Bray90820: what shared file system type is your nas offering ?
[18:50] <avid_fan> Bray90820, well I think we're going to need more information to be of any help.
[18:50] <DeMiNe0> ikonia: It looks like the module I need is there. Not sure why the alias isn't working for it. http://slexy.org/view/s20V6bBlJI
[18:51] <tehcereal> i just downloaded latest ubuntu 14.04 lts and installed it but got an unexpected error after the first reboot and the error is compiz related i used rufus to make a bootable usb i tried it twice and the same thing happened. i never got this problem before with any distro so i dont think its a hardware related issue :S
[18:51] <Bray90820> ikonia: the NAS is a QNAP partitioned with EX4 and being shared over SMB/CIFS
[18:51] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: because you dont have a hardware crypto device
[18:51] <ikonia> Bray90820: ok, so you want a samba / cifgs client installed on your machine and you want an example mount line for samba cifs
[18:51] <ikonia> you then want to test that mount manually
[18:51] <DeMiNe0> So padlock_aes is used for hardware crypto?
[18:52] <ikonia> if it works - put it into the fstab
[18:52] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: thats what the first guide you showed me said
[18:53] <DeMiNe0> Any idea where I could find the aes_generic module then?
[18:53] <ikonia> generic ?
[18:53] <ikonia> what are you on about
[18:53] <DeMiNe0> That guide tell's me to make an alias to aes_generic. But It doesn't exist on 14.04
[18:54] <ikonia> DeMiNe0: probably because it's a VERY OLD guide
[18:54] <ikonia> the whole kernel subsystem has changed
[18:54] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: You shouldn't need to touch modprobe, it should all already be running in your current kernel by default.
[18:54] <ikonia> hence why you shouldn't be using a guide for 6.0.6/5.10 on 14.04
[18:55] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: Is this for your root partition or a separate disk?
[18:55] <zergut> hello, what soft do you prefer to use as a graphic system monitors like lm_sensors but only with gui ?
[18:55] <zergut> which*
[18:55] <DeMiNe0> a different disk
[18:56] <Bray90820> ikonia: I am sorry to do this but can you walk me through this
[18:56] <Bray90820> /servername/sharename  /media/windowsshare  cifs  username=msusername,password=mspassword,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm  0  0
[18:57] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: Then it's as simple as creating the partition (if you want), luksFormatting it, luksOpening it, putting your file system on it, and then configuring your fstab and dmtab/dmcrypt (forgot which on Ubuntu)
[18:57] <avid_fan> Bray90820, that's very close to one that I have.
[18:57] <ioria> /
[18:57] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: You may need to pick and choose what you see in the guides that you find. Let me see if I can find a simple one for you.
[18:57] <DeMiNe0> rypervenche: thanks!
[18:57] <Bray90820> avid_fan: I am not sure i need all that but what i found on the ubuntu wiki
[18:58] <avid_fan> /servername/sharename /mnt_point cifs username=USER,password=PASS,iocharset=utf8 0 2
[18:58] <avid_fan> ///servername/sharename
[18:58] <ioria> maybe double //
[18:58] <avid_fan> DOH
[18:58] <avid_fan> //servername/sharename
[18:58] <avid_fan> there we go
[18:58] <avid_fan> I don't have sec=ntlm but I'm connecting to a Win2k3 server
[18:59] <mantys89> DeMiNe0, you can encrypt partitions with gnome-disk...
[18:59] <Aleksa> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu Unity 14.4. I've recently installed Mate, but as I didn't like it, I removed it and installed xfce. Now I have a problem: I can't change the volume settings using the menu applet :(
[18:59] <Aleksa> nor I can change the wallpaper
[18:59] <Aleksa> I have a black screen
[18:59] <Bray90820> avid_fan: '/run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=qnap,share=backup'
[18:59] <Bray90820> the server name would be qnap and the share name would be backup right?
[19:00] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: http://ryp.io/5t or http://ryp.io/5u will work for you, although the second uses yum, the commands are the same (except for installing cryptsetup)
[19:00] <DeMiNe0> gnome-disk needs a GUI doesn't it?
[19:00] <DeMiNe0> thanks rypervenche
[19:00] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: The only thing not in either of those two guys is how to have it mount on boot, is that something you want or not?
[19:00] <avid_fan> Bray90820, I guess that makes sense what you have there.
[19:00] <DeMiNe0> I just need to add it to fstab, don't I?
[19:01] <avid_fan> Bray90820, make sure you can resolve the server name, otherwise subsitiute the IP address
[19:01] <Eightynine> Hi. I removed Transmission using Software Center and lost X.org. My system freezes during boot up. How to fix this,?
[19:01] <ioria> Bray90820, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1380583
[19:02] <Bray90820> avid_fan: now how would I find the mount point
[19:03] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: You also need to add it to /etc/crypttab
[19:03] <DeMiNe0> ahh
[19:03] <mantys89> DeMiNe0, gnome-disk utility installed on ubuntu by default ...
[19:03] <rypervenche> DeMiNe0: The file has what you need to put in there, but you can also easily find guides if you just google "ubuntu crypttab" :)
[19:03] <avid_fan> Bray90820, I'm not sure how you might "find" the share name. If it's your NAS then I'm assuming you created the CIFS/SMB share and part of that process would have asked for a name.
[19:04] <Bray90820> avid_fan: I asked about the mount point :P
[19:04] <Bray90820> Already have the name
[19:05] <danbower> a few days ago, i attempted to update ubuntu through the GUI but the update seemed to get stuck. stupidly i killed it and now when i run `apt-get upgrade`, it gets stuck on "Preconfiguring packages". any suggestions on how to resolve this?
[19:06] <pavlos> danbower, try sudo apt-get install -f    (-f flag fixes things)
[19:06] <Eightynine> Help me please
[19:07] <rypervenche> Eightynine: It sounds as though you may have uninstalled more than just transmission. You have physical access to the machine, yes?
[19:07] <danbower> pavlos, unfortunately that didn't fix the issue
[19:08] <Eightynine> I  have but it froze
[19:08] <danbower> i've also tried `apt-get clean`
[19:08] <pavlos> danbower, try sudo apt-get autoremove to clean up then try a sudo apt-get update
[19:09] <rypervenche> Eightynine: Press ctrl+alt+F1 (or F2) and try to get to a TTY. From there, log in as your user. Let me know when you have done that.
[19:09] <Eightynine> Package manager removed xorg and lubuntu-core
[19:09] <rypervenche> Eightynine: Well there you go. Reinstall them from the command line.
[19:09] <Eightynine> Can't do that. System is not responding
[19:10] <rypervenche> Eightynine: What does "not responding" mean?
[19:10] <avid_fan> Bray90820, my bad. You can mount it really anywhere you'd like. My personal preference is to mount it under the "/mnt" directory. Just create yourself another directory and use it as the local mount point.
[19:10] <Eightynine> It stucked on boot logo
[19:10] <nuke_> Hi. I am compiling something and i am using many Greek words. I am getting error: stray ‘\XXX’ in program  where XXX is 211
[19:11] <nuke_> 317
[19:11] <nuke_> 201
[19:11] <nuke_> 316
[19:11] <nuke_> 257
[19:11] <nuke_> 316
[19:11] <pavlos> danbower, which release? 14.04?
[19:11] <rypervenche> Eightynine: Press F11 or F12, I can't remember which, maybe it's F1. It's one of the F keys and it should show you the command prompt as you are booting up. See if you can see any text.
[19:11] <danbower> pavlos, that's right
[19:12] <danbower> pavlos, well it's downloaded some stuff but eventually got stuck at "Preconfiguring packages" again :/
[19:12] <Eightynine> Monitor turns off
[19:12] <nuke_> Hi. I am compiling something and i am using many Greek words. I am getting error: stray ‘\XXX’ in program  where XXX is 211 317 201 316 277 202
[19:12] <Bray90820> avid_fan: How would I check what username I am logged into on my nas
[19:13] <pavlos> danbower, some process is running and messing up update
[19:13] <danbower> interesting
[19:13] <rypervenche> Eightynine: Try them all. The monitor is not turning off, it is going into a TTY.
[19:13] <Eightynine> Nothing helps
[19:13] <danbower> pavlos: when googling for this, i did mysql come up a few times and this is indeed a dev box
[19:13] <danbower> did see*
[19:14] <Eightynine> If i press buttons during boot it freezes
[19:14] <rypervenche> Eightynine: Ok, then I say let's specifically tell it to not use the splash when you boot up. One second.
[19:14] <pavlos> danbower, you could kill those processess and try to update again
[19:14] <avid_fan> Bray90820, I'm unsure. When I connect to my server via nautilus I'm prompted for a username and password.
[19:14] <Eightynine> I know how tty looks like
[19:14] <Bray90820> I stored it a while ago stupidly
[19:14] <rypervenche> Eightynine: http://askubuntu.com/questions/25022/how-to-enable-boot-messages-to-be-printed-on-screen-during-boot-up Read the first answer, steps 1 through 4.
[19:14] <rgb-one> rypervenche: click page down to toggle splash
[19:15] <avid_fan> Bray90820, I would think that by default if left unspecified, it would use your current login name.
[19:15] <rypervenche> rgb-one: Thank you :)
[19:15] <danbower> pavlos: there's quite a few /usr/sbin/mysqld processes running. does that sound right?
[19:15] <pavlos> danbower, I suggest you kill them
[19:17] <avid_fan> Bray90820, I would think setting/resetting your password should be simple enough through the NAS' web interface.
[19:17] <Bray90820> avid_fan: I know the password I just don't know what username I stored
[19:18] <avid_fan> Bray90820, again, sorry, I'm not sure where that might be stored locally.
[19:19] <zerowaitstate> danbower: depending on what tool you use, you may be seeing particular threads of mysql rather that proceses. i know in htop you can choose to see either
[19:20] <danbower> well i've just killed the mysql server through the virtualmin GUI. it's still bloody getting stuck
[19:20] <v3nd3tta``> hello, i want to use my ubuntu 14.04 laptop as an wifi to ethernet bridge for my pc, is that possible?
[19:20] <pavlos> danbower, are there dpkg processes running?
[19:21] <Bray90820> avid_fan: Now i need to know what iocharset=utf8 0 2 means
[19:21] <danbower> pavlos: nope
[19:22] <pavlos> danbower, so try again the update with -f
[19:22] <rypervenche> danbower: You'll probably have to do it from the command line. I'm not 100% sure which kill signals are safe to use on mysql, but some in here may know.
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> v3nd3tta``  there's even a !factoid for that one, moment
[19:23] <avid_fan> Bray90820, iocharset handles displaying special characters
[19:23] <Bray90820> avid_fan: 'Do I need to change anything there
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> !ics | v3nd3tta``
[19:25] <danbower> pavlos: so after killing the mysql server (i checked htop afterwards and i can't find a mysql process) i ran `apt-get install -f; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade` yet it still gets stuck
[19:25] <mantys89> danbower: http://askubuntu.com/questions/156650/apt-get-update-very-slow-stuck-at-waiting-for-headers, i think it might help
[19:25] <avid_fan> Bray90820, the 0 and 2 are the 5th ans 6th fields in a fstab line. The 5th field tells the system if the filesystem specified should be dumped, which I've never used. The 6th field tells the system the order for fsck at reboot time. According to the fstab manpage, root should be 1 and all others 2.
[19:26] <danbower> mantys89, i'm getting stuck at "Preconfiguring packages"
[19:26] <avid_fan> Bray90820, No, I don't think you should need to change the iocharset option, or the last fields.
[19:27] <danbower> i also left it running overnight a couple days back and it never progressed
[19:27] <Bray90820> So I should leave them as 0 2
[19:27] <pavlos> danbower, you should try one command at a time and prefix with sudo ... "sudo apt-get update" should be w/o errors before doing other stuff.
[19:28] <pavlos> danbower, can you do a "ps -ef | pastebinit" and post the result?
[19:28] <v3nd3tta``> MonkeyDust, i think that's the other way round, right? internet->wifi->laptop->ethernet->pc
[19:29] <danbower> pavlos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10867643/
[19:32] <pavlos> danbower, thx ... no more ideas, maybe someone else can help
[19:32] <Bray90820> avid_fan: this is what my fstab looks like but nothing appers to be mounted
[19:32] <Bray90820> /qnap/backup /mnt/qnap/backup cifs username=admin,password=771774,iocharset=utf8 0 2
[19:32] <Bray90820> "//qnap/backup /mnt/qnap/backup cifs username=admin,password=771774,iocharset=utf8 0 2
[19:32] <mantys89> danbower: sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get update
[19:33] <danbower> well thanks anyway pavlos, really appreciated
[19:33] <danbower> mantys89, i've tried that man
[19:33] <pavlos> danbower, np
[19:34] <pavlos> v3nd3tta``, I think you can edit the wifi connection and set it to share with other systems
[19:35] <danbower> the only thing particularly different about this system is virtualmin which installs a plethora of stuff (some of which are part of this update). i may just try uninstalling that, which should hopefully remove the offending process, then trying an upgrade
[19:37] <Bray90820> avid_fan: got any ideas for me
[19:37] <avid_fan> Bray90820, and "/mnt/qnap/backup" exists?
[19:38] <Bray90820> avid_fan: aaron@Server:/mnt/qnap/backup$
[19:38] <avid_fan> Bray90820, so you've modified the fstab, just modified it?
[19:38] <avid_fan> Bray90820, nothing more?
[19:39] <Bray90820> Correct
[19:39] <mantys89> danbower: sudo dpkg-reconfigure update-manager
[19:39] <avid_fan> Bray90820, then "cd /" and then if you're root, "mount /mnt/qnap/backup", else "sudo mount /mnt/qnap/backup".
[19:41] <v3nd3tta``> i now have seen 5 different solution articles in the internet, all describing something completely different.
[19:42] <mantys89> danbower: sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force update-manager, it should fix broken packages....
[19:44] <danbower> mantys89: i'll give it a try, thanks
[19:46] <Whitor> Hi all, Odd question I know.... I'd like to force an application to stay in the terminal it was invoked within. This application has both a CLI interface (I know that is redundant) and GUI..  When run in an Alt-F1 (real) terminal it runs in the cli just fine. If run from an xterm it invokes the GUI. How can I force it to stay in the CLI when invoked from an xterm?
[19:46] <Whitor> The app in question is VLC... Once upon a time, I was given a string that would force it to stay in the xterm... It seemed generic and not specific to VLC.
[19:47] <Whitor> but darned if I can recall the command
[19:47] <avid_fan> Whitor, cvlc?
[19:47] <tgm4883> Whitor: cvlc?
[19:47] <tgm4883> lol
[19:47] <Whitor> heh.... wil try
[19:47] <avid_fan> tgm4883, jinzx
[19:47] <tgm4883> ah, i owe you a coke
[19:47] <avid_fan> tgm4883, lol
[19:47] <mantys89> danbower: http://galigio.org/2009/11/29/how-to-repair-a-bad-upgrade-on-ubuntu/
[19:47] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: I think you have to unset the DISPLAY environment variable for that process
[19:48] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: try DISPLAY= yourcommandname
[19:48] <Whitor> zerowaitstate, how do I unset the display variable
[19:48] <Whitor> ok, thx
[19:49] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: for example to run emacs without X, type: DISPLAY= emacs
[19:50] <zerowaitstate> I'm assuming you're using bash, of course
[19:50] <Whitor> btw, tgm4883 and avid_fan  cvlc did not work
[19:50] <danbower> thanks mantys89. one of the commands in that link shows promise but i'll need to reboot
[19:51] <avid_fan> Whitor, good to know.
[19:51] <Whitor> neither did the display=  cmd       :(
[19:51] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: it does because I tested it
[19:51] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: DISPLAY= vlc
[19:51] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: all caps on DISPLAY
[19:52] <Whitor> works if I invoke it from a real terminal (Alt-F1 or such) ... bit not if invoked form an xtermn
[19:52] <Whitor> zerowaitstate, is the WINNER !
[19:52] <Whitor> cool, thanks !
[19:52] <Whitor> zerowaitstate, thank you very much
[19:53] <zerowaitstate> Whitor: incidentally, that is the way you modify the environment variables for any process.
[19:53] <zerowaitstate> I just set DISPLAY to empty string
[19:53] <zerowaitstate> in that case
[19:54] <Bray90820> avid_fan: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/04bb902e172402196cfb
[19:55] <tgm4883> Bray90820: either specify IP or fix your DNS?
[19:55] <Whitor> zerowaitstate, I wanted to force vlc to play in Cool Retro Term ... nifty little xterm gui for old folks like me
[19:55] <Bray90820> so change '//qnap/backup' to the ip address
[19:56] <Bray90820> tgm4883:
[19:56] <Whitor> Brings me back to my vt100 days  / ibm 3270
[19:56] <tgm4883> Bray90820: well no, just qnap. And not in the command you posted, but in fstab
[19:56] <Bray90820> ok
[19:56] <tgm4883> Bray90820: Also, that is assuming that you have a static or reserved IP address for your qnap
[19:57] <Bray90820> I do have it as static I believe
[19:57] <v3nd3tta``> okay thank you pavlos and MonkeyDust i managed it to work. i just had to use the network manager on eth0 to share eth0, get the ip configuration right on the pc and now it works like a charm
[19:57] <pavlos> v3nd3tta``, great!
[19:58] <v3nd3tta``> maybe this should be added in a simpler manner into the Internet/ConnectionSharing manual
[20:05] <kumala> I think I got a prob with my graphic drivers. When I switch to a console with ctrl-alt-F1 the screen remains black, but I can still login and type commands, just black screen. There is signal and the screen turns the lights on but remains black. Also when I boot, I have an encrypted partition and I need to type the password, at that point it is in graphical mode already but the keyboard input goes to another console and has no effect. I need t
[20:05] <kumala> o ctrl-alt-suppr to restart and then I get the same password prompt but in console mode and I can unlock the encrypted disk. Again, it looks lie a graphic driver issue. Is anyone familiar with that?
[20:05] <kumala> This is a fresh install
[20:06] <avid_fan> Bray90820, so it doesn't resolve the hostname. Do you know the IP address of the NAS?
[20:06] <tgm4883> avid_fan: yea he is puting that in
[20:06] <tgm4883> or supposed to be anyway
[20:07] <avid_fan> tgm4883, yeah, sorry, I didn't read the rest of the dialog.
[20:07] <tgm4883> avid_fan: was he ever able to mount it?
[20:07] <avid_fan> tgm4883, guess you can forget about that Coke.
[20:07] <avid_fan> tgm4883, to my understanding not via command line.
[20:08] <avid_fan> tgm4883, you raise an interesting point.
[20:08] <tgm4883> avid_fan: it's probably because he hasn't specified domain=
[20:12] <delinquentme> Ive got an error in my ec2 intances sudoers file /etc/sudoers ... and  Idont know the actual root password to my machine as I've aways used passwordless SSH ( its an ec2 instance )
[20:13] <bruxC> hi, I'm trying to figure out what the best way to duplicate files from one fstab location to another in the fastest, safest, and most efficient manner. Could someone recommend to me what that method would be? I have tried SFTP via WinSCP but it timed out after the first five minutes. I'm trying to carry over terabytes of info.
[20:14] <rgb-one> bruxC: look into rsync
[20:14] <bruxC> rgb-one, perfect, thank you.
[20:15] <petrvs> bruxC: what does fstab have to do with it?
[20:16] <bruxC> petrvs, I'm new, please take what verbiage I say as a grain of salt.
[20:16] <Bray90820> avdi: I do know the ip address
[20:16] <OerHeks> Can somebode help me out? because some key is missing, we wait 4 days for Firefox 37.0.2 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203615172/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-arm64.firefox_37.0.2%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu0.14.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox
[20:19] <Tr3nT> salut
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: apt-cache policy still shows 37.0.1 on me
[20:19] <Tr3nT> j'ai un soucis avec la mise a jour
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> !fr | Tr3nT
[20:19] <Tr3nT> quoi ?
[20:20] <petrvs> bruxC: okay =)
[20:20] <petrvs> bruxC: I'll second rsync, it resumes by default, and you can even use it via ssh if you need the transfer to be secure
[20:21] <petrvs> bruxC: though if you do it over ssh, I think you'll want to make it rsync -Pa -e ssh, rather than merely rsync -a
[20:22] <petrvs> rsync -Pav -e ssh foo/ bar@baz:qux/
[20:22] <petrvs> etc.
[20:22] <krunkpirate> scp seems like it should be fine... If its dying mid transfer it sounds like you have network pains.
[20:23] <petrvs> cp is nice, but it's no rsync
[20:24] <petrvs> I don't use cp for <1GB files I care about, nevermind terabytes =)
[20:24] <krunkpirate> haven't used rsync enough to know the difference.
[20:24] <petrvs> well, if rsync is interrupted, it knows, and it can resume
[20:24] <petrvs> if you run the same rsync command over again, it merely confirms it's already done its job
[20:24] <petrvs> if you run cp again, it does it all over again (or tries to, again)
[20:24] <pavlos> bruxC, http://www.tecmint.com/rsync-local-remote-file-synchronization-commands/
[20:25] <tgm4883> Bray90820: so is it working now?
[20:25] <Bray90820> yes It is mounted but How would i add it to the unity launcher
[20:26] <tgm4883> Bray90820: that is a completely different question
[20:27] <Bray90820> Well that is my next question ;)
[20:27] <link123> Ubuntu 15.04 will to be released tomorrow?
[20:28] <tgm4883> link123: that is the idea
[20:29] <k1l_> link123: dont expect it in the morning time. more like afternoon.
[20:29] <link123> k1l_, thank you
[20:30] <ig0r_> Why is there no 15.04 Release Candidate??
[20:30] <petrvs> ig0r_: there's a beta
[20:31] <DANtheBEASTman> how do i install/enable 32bit multiarch on trusty?
[20:31] <k1l_> ig0r_: there are daylies iirc
[20:31] <ig0r_> petrvs: the beta doesn't work in VirtualBox
[20:31] <rgb-one> DANtheBEASTman: I think it is enabled by default
[20:31] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: its enabled by default. what is your issue?
[20:31] <petrvs> ig0r_: how doesn't it?
[20:31] <cribbageSTARSHIP> test
[20:31] <ig0r_> petrvs: it doesn't boot
[20:31] <k1l_> ig0r_: well, talk about that in #ubuntu+1 or better file a bug
[20:32] <tgm4883> or dont' use virtualbox
[20:32] <DANtheBEASTman> trying to install [nonFree] 3rd party package (called Guitar Pro) apt is giving me all kinds of weirdness
[20:32] <ig0r_> k1l_: huh?
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> ig0r_  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[20:32] <petrvs> ig0r_: what happens?
[20:33] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: pass
[20:33] <k1l_> ig0r_: #ubuntu+1 is the not-final channel.
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> ig0r_  type /j #ubuntu+1
[20:33] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: pastebin it
[20:33] <petrvs> DANtheBEASTman: tried TuxGuitar?
[20:33] <Sagitt> the command dpkg-reconfigure -a what do?
[20:33] <k1l_> !paste | DANtheBEASTman
[20:33] <petrvs> DANtheBEASTman: or DGuitar
[20:36] <cribbageSTARSHIP> hello everyone! I just built my first server. Just making sure I'm doing the following correctly. I have a partition filled with files and folders mounted to /media/storage and want to copy just the contents of /media/storage to /media/bunker. so would the proper command be "cp -a /media/storage /media/bunker"?
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> cribbageSTARSHIP  there's also #ubuntu-server
[20:37] <rgb-one> cribbageSTARSHIP: cp -r /media/storage /media/bunker
[20:37] <cribbageSTARSHIP> MonkeyDust ok thanks. I should learn this just the same.
[20:37] <rgb-one> man cp for more information about the cp command
[20:37] <DANtheBEASTman> k1l_: https://gist.github.com/14e8c179ff4bf36a384d
[20:37] <cribbageSTARSHIP> rgb-one thank you!
[20:38] <DANtheBEASTman> petrvs: sorry but tuxguitar and dguitar are absolutely disgusting
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> cribbageSTARSHIP  and books (like: paper books) are really handy and useful
[20:38] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: rsync -av /media/storage/ /media/bunker/
[20:38] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: or without v for faster, and again with -v to confirm after it's done
[20:38] <petrvs> DANtheBEASTman: fair enough =)
[20:39] <cribbageSTARSHIP> petrvs what is the difference between rsync and cp?
[20:39] <cribbageSTARSHIP> petrvs: what is the difference between rsync and cp?
[20:39] <DANtheBEASTman> cribbageSTARSHIP: you should `man rsync` and find out what makes rsync so cool
[20:40] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: rsync is more reliable, it's what people who value their time use
[20:40] <genii> cribbageSTARSHIP: The difference between rsync and cp is like the difference between apples and moon rocks
[20:40] <petrvs> cp is great for little files you can re-cp in an instant
[20:40] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: guitar 6 pro is the buy version. did you contact arobas music for support?
[20:40] <petrvs> rsync is for if you only want to do it once
[20:40] <streulma> tomorrow :)
[20:40] <streulma> the great day !
[20:40] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: primarily, rsync can resume, and cp cannot
[20:40] <streulma> but no fixes for my pc :(
[20:40] <cribbageSTARSHIP> petrvs: thank you
[20:41] <DANtheBEASTman> cribbageSTARSHIP: but to summarize, `cp` will copy all files you give it, period. rsync is smart enough to (if you tell it) figure out if some of the files don't neede copying (already there, maybe a newer version exists) and ignore those
[20:41] <tgm4883> : DANtheBEASTman have you tried installing gksu
[20:41] <streulma> Ubuntu 15.04 will be released tomorrow on 2015 04 23
[20:41] <DANtheBEASTman> plus rsync has much more useful output, like it tells you what speed its copying, how much percentage of each file is left, etc
[20:41] <petrvs> it's pretty wonderful
[20:41] <petrvs> all the best backup solutions are based on it
[20:42] <DANtheBEASTman> tgm4883: yeah, L55
[20:42] <DANtheBEASTman> rsync is easily one of my favorite utils
[20:43] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: see http://askubuntu.com/a/154490/31260
[20:43] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Thanks everyone. I was thinking on using rsync as a nightly cron and just sharing /media/storage on samba
[20:43] <DANtheBEASTman> k1l_: ooo. thank you
[20:43] <DANtheBEASTman> cribbageSTARSHIP: i believe that's quite a common thing to do
[20:43] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: yup
[20:44] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: or you could try lsyncd (also based on rsync) if you want something more dynamic than once-daily
[20:44] <Bashing-om> Sagitt_: What release are you on ? as the -a option is no longer supported. see: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=721329#15 .
[20:45] <rgb-one> cribbageSTARSHIP: Here are some rsync examples: http://www.tecmint.com/rsync-local-remote-file-synchronization-commands/
[20:45] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: and there are other nice utils (usually also rsync based) that can do incremental deduplicated backups, which is great
[20:45] <Bray90820> tgm4883: I am trying to use rsync on my QNAP that I just mounted but I am getting a permission denied error but it looks like all my permissions are correct
[20:45] <Bray90820> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a39c9f7e407d8835ac38
[20:46] <cribbageSTARSHIP> petrvs: I dont need anything more than once daily. I i have two 1TB hdd. Each has a 30gb and 900gb partition. the OS is on the 30, and storage is on the 900. I want to back up each to the other each night incase on nukes.
[20:46] <cribbageSTARSHIP> rgb-one: petrvs: thanks ill read up on it
[20:46] <petrvs> sounds like a plan
[20:47] <tgm4883> Bray90820: are you just trying to rsync stuff to it?
[20:47] <Bray90820> Yes
[20:47] <tgm4883> Bray90820: because I think you can set it up as an rsync server rather than having to mount a cifs share
[20:47] <streulma> Bray90820 I do rsync on the qnap itself for backup.
[20:48] <tgm4883> Bray90820: I would just do that, no need for the extra step
[20:48] <petrvs> Bray90820: uh, what's the error you get from rsync?
[20:48] <Bray90820> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/44ddc7606a7f65bf3e7f
[20:49] <tgm4883> Bray90820: like we said, you should be going to the qnap with rsync and forget about mounting the cifs share first
[20:49] <rgb-one> Bray90820: use chown recursively
[20:50] <rgb-one> and specify user and group
[20:50] <tgm4883> rgb-one: can't. It's a cifs mount
[20:50] <tgm4883> Bray90820: you need to specify uid and gid in your mount command
[20:50] <tgm4883> Bray90820: if you really insist on doing it that way, which I think is an unneeded step
[20:51] <Bray90820> tgm4883: Well I wanted to set it up on a schedule if I do it directly most of the time it will fail because the qnap won't be mounted
[20:51] <tgm4883> Bray90820: is this from a laptop or something?
[20:51] <DANtheBEASTman> ok so now that I have the deb unpacked into /opt.. I `ldd` on the binary and I'm missing some libs.. https://gist.github.com/DanielFGray/14e8c179ff4bf36a384d#file-gistfile1-txt any ideas how to go about installing the right versions/build of these libs?
[20:51] <Bray90820> tgm4883: It's from a desktop but if I were to restart or the power were to go out it wouldn't backup
[20:52] <DANtheBEASTman> should I add precise repos and install from that?
[20:52] <tgm4883> Bray90820: it would if you went directly to the qnap....
[20:53] <cribbageSTARSHIP> petrvs: if my sda1 is my / and my sda2 is my storage mounted to /media/storage, if I cron rsync /dev/sda1 to /dev/sdb1 will it copy my /media/storage? or would that only happen if I set up rsync to copy / to /media/osbunker?
[20:53] <DANtheBEASTman> cribbageSTARSHIP: I think you can tell rsync to only stay on one disk. you'll have to `man rsync` to find the option
[20:54] <DANtheBEASTman> don't be afraid of reading those man pages, they're a god send
[20:54] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: did you want to omit /media/storage ?
[20:54] <petrvs> you can use -x to avoid all other filesystems
[20:54] <tgm4883> Bray90820: you could use something like "rsync -rv --delete --exclude-from /var/www-sites/rsync-exclude.txt --chmod=Do=rx,Fo=r /var/www-sites/WEBSITE/ USER@FQDN:/var/www-sites/WEBSITE/"
[20:54] <petrvs> or --exclude for any number of custom exclusions
[20:54] <Bray90820> tgm4883: I ran it directly from the qnap  while it was unmounted and this is what i got
[20:54] <streulma> rsync -avrz /media/source /media/destination
[20:54] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: use -n/--dry-run to see it work (or fail) to test
[20:54] <Bray90820> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/1631757631d499794f83
[20:54] <DANtheBEASTman> -x is probably the cleanest choice
[20:55] <cribbageSTARSHIP> hold on, im going to pastebin a better explanation
[20:55] <petrvs> cribbageSTARSHIP: and be careful with omission of / trailing slashes until you're familiar with it
[20:55] <DANtheBEASTman> cribbageSTARSHIP: please avoid pastebin
[20:55] <petrvs> rsync foo bar/ and rsync foo/ bar/ and rsync foo/ bar are not necessarily equivalent
[20:55] <DANtheBEASTman> gist or sprunge are much better choices for pasting
[20:55] <tgm4883> Bray90820: no, you setup the qnap as an rsync server, then you run the rsync command on your desktop to push to the qnap
[20:56] <zykotick9> DANtheBEASTman: s/patebin/pastebin.com/
[20:56] <DANtheBEASTman> pastebin has ads and has also been known to mangle raw output
[20:56] <Bray90820> tgm4883: If I understand you correctly that is what I have done
[20:57] <tgm4883> Bray90820: I don't believe so
[20:57] <cribbageSTARSHIP> http://pastebin.com/g7ZqGRP7
[20:58] <tgm4883> Bray90820: that error message you just posted, you didn't include the command you ran
[20:58] <Bray90820> Well i am using a gui app for this so i'll send a screenshot
[20:58] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Im just wondering if i tell rsync to read /dev/sda1 if it would take a snap shot to /dev/sdb1
[20:59] <vonsyd0w> I dont think rsync works w/ block devices
[20:59] <Bray90820> tgm4883: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Backup.png
[20:59] <Sagitt_> Bashing-om 14.04 lts, i sent this command for wrong, closed the windows immediatly
[21:00] <tgm4883> Bray90820: I'm not even sure where to start. That destination address is so ****** up that we should just wipe the thing
[21:00] <petrvs> vonsyd0w: not sure one'd really need it to
[21:01] <Bray90820> tgm4883: the entire destination address is
[21:01] <tgm4883> Bray90820: that does explain your error though. "/run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=qnap.local,share=backup/data" is nothing
[21:01] <Bray90820> "/run/user/1000/gvfs/smb-share:server=qnap.local,share=backup/data
[21:02] <Bray90820> tgm4883: So where should I go from here
[21:04] <Bashing-om> Sagitt_: If the package management system is stable, the command will have no effect .. as it tries to reconfigure 'bad' packages .
[21:04] <tgm4883> Bray90820: I don't have time to walk you through setting up rsync on your qnap and then fixing your desktop. But there should be some guides for setting up the qnap. Then your destination address is going to look similar to USER@QNAPIP:/DIRNAME/"
[21:05] <Sagitt_> Bashing-om if i'm running apt-get upgrade from ssh, and for wrong during the end i closed the windows, the process will be stopped or the machine finish all?
[21:06] <phpcoder> hello everybody
[21:06] <phpcoder> how can i download 15.04 ?
[21:07] <Bashing-om> Sagitt_: That is a tough call .. but yes, I would expect that the cpmmand would complete. you can check -> sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get upgrade <- again and see what the package manager reports .
[21:07] <Sagitt_> well
[21:08] <Sagitt_> no errore reported
[21:08] <Sagitt_> error*
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Sagitt_: Double check -> sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg -C <-. If these run clean you can safely assume that the system is stable .
[21:09] <Sagitt_> no report, good
[21:09] <gregL> phpcoder, join #ubuntu+1 and ask there or wait till tomorrow..
[21:10] <Bashing-om> Sagitt_: :) .. Good to go .
[21:10] <DANtheBEASTman> ok, I"m down to two dependencies! libSM and libGL I've been using apt-file to find the others, but these two small-legthed name makes them more ambiguous.. any ideas where these libs came from
[21:11] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: you have the strangest way of sharing commands
[21:11] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Yeah, but sure does accent the command , huh ?
[21:12] <DANtheBEASTman> I think `this is more accented`
[21:13] <DANtheBEASTman> but, I mean about separating commands with , rather than ;
[21:14] <DANtheBEASTman> sudo apt-get -f install , sudo dpkg -C is not a valid command, but  sudo apt-get -f install && sudo dpkg -C would do what you're talking about
[21:14] <blastoff> hey guys
[21:14] <DANtheBEASTman> ; runs unconditionally of the last command, && will run if the previous command was successful.
[21:14] <blastoff> anyone here tonight?
[21:14] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: If we all thought alike, would be no inventivnes . Change can be good .
[21:15] <DANtheBEASTman> while I usually agree, I feel like presenting commands in a form that isn't actually valid syntax is a bad change
[21:15] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Good point !
[21:17] <DANtheBEASTman> if `,` was a valid command separator that would be totally cool, but (especially when giving commands to beginners) I think it might provide less confusion and more portability to provide comand syntax that's actually valid. y'know?
[21:19] <petrvs> Blaster: I'm here
[21:19] <petrvs> Blaster: whoops, you aren't blastoff at all
[21:20] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Agreed, will comply .
[21:20] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: just my thoughts, I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life :)
[21:20] <petrvs> Bashing-om: get a job!
[21:21] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: When you are correct, you are right . I will adjust to expedite transfer of information :)
[21:22] <DANtheBEASTman> now if only I could figure out where the hell to get 'libSM' from...
[21:23] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: what rteturns ' dpkg -L libsm ' ?
[21:23] <DANtheBEASTman> oh, how about libsm6
[21:24] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: I use apt-file to find it
[21:24] <jecte11> hello. I installed a program to /opt/xxx and now i want to compile another program that is using the program already installed to /opt/xxx
[21:24] <DANtheBEASTman> IINM dpkg -L would only tell about packages that are installed
[21:24] <jecte11> how to tell the second program to look for the first program in /opt/xxx
[21:24] <tnkhanh_> hello
[21:25] <jecte11> should export LD_LIBRARY_PATH= be enough?
[21:25] <JewFro297> Hey guys, when I log out, my system hangs, but only with flgrx installed.
[21:26] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: what irc client do you use
[21:26] <ikonia> jecte11: ld is only for the linker
[21:26] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: I do with irssi .. why ?
[21:26] <jecte11> ikonia: ok, so how to tell the program?
[21:27] <ikonia> jecte11: tell the program what ?
[21:29] <jecte11> eg. i got two versions of gegl installed. one comes via ubuntu package management and one is installed to /opt/gegl. Now i want to tell gimp to use gegl in /opt/gegl. is there a way to set that?
[21:29] <genii> jecte11: If the second program has a path where it would be looking for the other in normally, then ./configure --help    should contain what all options for paths it can use
[21:29] <DANtheBEASTman> Bashing-om: did you know  you can make colors like this using control codes? irssi uses Control+C to start a color code
[21:29] <ikonia> jecte11: you don't tell them to use it - if it's linked against it, it's linked against it, if it's dynamic linking then you need to manage the run time path
[21:29] <jecte11> but if the second program does not have an option via ./configure?
[21:30] <jecte11> ok, so how to link to it?
[21:30] <DANtheBEASTman> jecte11: this really isn't an ubuntu problem
[21:30] <Bashing-om> DANtheBEASTman: Yeah .. lots one can do with irssi and in xterm and/or screen .
[21:30] <ikonia> jecte11: thats done at build time
[21:30] <olfannaflo> hi?
[21:31] <olfannaflo> hello?
[21:31] <k1l_> olfannaflo: hi
[21:31] <olfannaflo> O:
[21:31] <ikonia> hello
[21:31] <petrvs> ^
[21:31] <genii> jecte11: If you want your custom gegl to be the system default you can use update-alternatives
[21:31] <olfannaflo> =^-^⁼
[21:31] <thms> if I rsync my whole system to a NFS, reinstall and then rsync back everything.
[21:31] <thms> Will it break packages I installed with dpkg or not ?
[21:32] <thms> dpkg / apt-get.
[21:32] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: shouldn't do
[21:32] <thms> I want the dpkg -l to show ii on the new system even though I copied everything with rsync
[21:32] <k1l_> thms: why reinstall then?
[21:32] <jecte11> ok, thanks
[21:32] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: you might be better using `dd`
[21:32] <thms> k1l_: because partition table is fucked up and it's raid1
[21:32] <thms> DANtheBEASTman: I can't because it's a remote OVH system
[21:32] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: ah.
[21:33] <ikonia> thms: tone down the language please, there is no need for it
[21:33] <k1l_> thms: why not make a list form dpkg, and reinstall afterwards with that package list
[21:33] <thms> and dd won't solve my partition issues.
[21:33] <Happy_Larry> parted or fdisk
[21:33] <thms> ikonia: Sorry. I am french native and I use the f word far too often. I was told that many times, sorry, it's just an habit.
[21:33] <ikonia> thms: don't worry
[21:33] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: rsync should do the trick then, make sure you preserve permissions
[21:33] <ikonia> accidents happen
[21:34] <thms> k1l_: I thought about that. I will do that if rsync doens't do the trick.
[21:35] <thms> Sounds like a plan ? It's a $1200 server.
[21:35] <thms> rsync -avPH
[21:35] <TJ-> thms: k1l_: debfoster might be what you need here, it can generate a list of the installed packages with the depency graph maintained
[21:35] <thms> Yes ?
[21:35] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: I would add z but that should do the trick
[21:35] <thms> In what way does it differ from dpkg -l | grep ii
[21:36] <EriC^^> thms: it shows the dependencies of the installed packages (recursively)
[21:36] <k1l_> thms: "dpkg --get-selections | awk '!/deinstall|purge|hold/ {print $1}' > packages.list.save " on the old system
[21:36] <thms> OK thanks everyone.
[21:36] <DANtheBEASTman> thms: good luck
[21:37] <k1l_> thms: then "xargs -a "packages.list" sudo apt-get install "
[21:38] <thms> k1l_: you're the man.
[21:39] <TJ-> thms: "debfoster --quiet --show-keepers" lists the packages "apt-get install" would need in order to re-install all the currently installed packages
[21:39] <thms> TJ-: what would be the debfoster way to tell apt-get to reinstall all the packages.
[21:40] <thms> I'm saving all solution in case anything goes wrong.
[21:40] <thms> TJ-: The keeper list is empty.
[21:40] <thms> is what debfoster tells me.
[21:41] <thms> seems like k1l_ way of doing is better than the package himself :x
[21:41] <k1l_> thms: but still think of the config files in the users home and /etc
[21:42] <thms> k1l_: sure did I :)
[21:42] <thms> Gonna do a NFS backup of the whole system anyway.
[21:42] <EriC^^> thms: sudo debfoster --quiet && debfoster --show-keepers
[21:43] <TJ-> thms: The keeper database needs generating first: "sudo debfoster --quiet" then you can do "debfoster --show-keepers --quiet"
[21:44] <thms> TJ-: ho okay.
[21:44] <EriC^^> it doesn't list all the packages i have installed though :/
[21:44] <thms> And then I can do xargs just like k1l_ solution and apt-get will take care of the depencies.
[21:44] <EriC^^> it lists gimp-help-en but not gimp for example
[21:44] <thms> sounds cleaner.
[21:45] <EriC^^> i'd go with good old dpkg
[21:45] <TJ-> Eric__: No, it lists all the packages which, when their dependencies are installed, will match the installed package list
[21:46] <EriC^^> TJ-: but gimp-help-en Depends: gimp-help-common (= 2.6.1-1), gimp-helpbrowser | www-browser
[21:46] <EriC^^> none of which pull in gimp
[21:46] <TJ-> Eric__: gimp will be installed by a task or other meta package; check it's rdepends
[21:47] <TJ-> s/it's/its/
[21:47] <EriC^^> unless apt-cache show is wrong
[21:48] <TJ-> Eric__: e.g. xubuntu-desktop, gnome, multimedia-graphics
[21:49] <TJ-> Eric__: debfoster walks the dependency tree. The keepers list is all those packages at the top of a branch
[21:50] <TJ-> Long shot, but has anyone experience of using Java SwingWorker and passing data into the worker thread from the event dispatcher thread, rather than vice-versa
[21:52] <EriC^^> TJ-: don't know none of the packages look like they would pull gimp in, i ran them through apt-cache depends and none pull gimp in over 1 iteration
[21:52] <TJ-> Eric__: No, its only the packages at the top of the depency tree
[21:54] <tonyt> anyone have any idea how to fix this or point to some place that has an aswer? i searched google and had no luck http://pastebin.com/zWtgYikk
[21:54] <tonyt> i updated the video driver
[21:56] <EriC^^> TJ-: is debfoster capable of finding all the packages a meta-package pulled in that aren't dependencies of other packages? like if someone installs lubuntu-desktop and then removes it, could it list pcmanfm and others which aren't dependencies of the de installed or weren't installed manually?
[21:57] <genii> tonyt: How did you go about updating the video driver?
[21:58] <tonyt> genii just downloaded it from nvidia's website and ran the install script
[21:58] <tonyt> ./file.run
[21:58] <Guest69288> new to here looking for help
[21:59] <tonyt> it apperrently uninstalls the old driver and installs the newer one
[21:59] <Guest69288> HELP!!
[21:59] <genii> tonyt: Did you add any PPAs ?
[22:00] <genii> Guest69288: You should probably describe your problem to the channel first
[22:00] <EriC^^> TJ-: is that what deborphan does? i just installed it
[22:00] <tonyt> genii no
[22:00] <TJ-> EriC^^: I believe so. It reads all packages that are installed according to dpkg, then walks the depency graph until it reaches a node with no further leaves. Those are the packages it adds to the keepers list.
[22:01] <TJ-> EriC^^: deborphan finds packages no longer depended on by any other
[22:02] <genii> tonyt: The fast way to get around it is find the deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives for the ones it doesn't like the dependencies of. Then you can do sudo dpkg -i --force-depends /path/and/debname-here
[22:05] <genii> tonyt: The more proper way to fix it would be to investigate why it doesn't like those dependency packages
[22:05] <EriC^^> TJ-: is there a way to show the packages that a certain package depends on but are now orphans?
[22:07] <EriC^^> i guess i could pipe them and check if it's in the dependency list of that de
[22:08] <EriC^^> i wonder why apt-get doesn't have an elegant apt-get -r remove
[22:08] <TJ-> Eric^^: That sounds like a union of "apt-cache depends $PKG" and deborphan
[22:11] <EriC^^> yeah, i'll pipe them to debfoster -d so it's recursive too
[22:18] <[TiZ]> I'm trying to ssh with X forwarding on Xubuntu 14.04. Whenever I do ssh -v -X or ssh -v -Y, I don't get the line that says "Requesting X11 forwarding". Why isn't it requesting X11 forwarding?
[22:21] <petrvs> [TiZ]: what do you get?
[22:23] <[TiZ]> petrvs: Actually, I just figured it out. I was accidentally trying to ssh -X from another ssh session.
[22:23] <[TiZ]> My bad. :x Thank you though.
[22:23] <petrvs> heheh, nice
[22:25] <Voyage> I want to make my wired usb keyboard as wireless (for xyz reasons; dont ask the long story please). what is the cheapest way to do that?
[22:25] <rking> Can anyone recommend a paid ( or free ) linux alternative to gotoassist?
[22:26] <petrvs> Voyage: buy another one
[22:26] <ikonia> rking: just any remote connection service, such as vnc would work just fine
[22:26] <Austneal> Voyage, perhaps the reason could better enable us to provide suggestions?
[22:26] <petrvs> rking: http://alternativeto.net/software/gotoassist/ kind of all annoying
[22:27] <rking> @ikonia, I need a real support alternative. Not something that requires end user work.
[22:28] <tgm4883> rking: teamviewer
[22:28] <ikonia> rking: you're going to have problems then - as all solutions will require a user interaction to make it work
[22:28] <Tin_man> Voyage,  I agree with petrvs, unless you just want the experience, a wireless usb is only around 10.00 at walmart
[22:28] <ikonia> teamviewer is not a solution
[22:28] <tgm4883> ikonia: how is it not a solution?
[22:28] <Austneal> Voyage still there?
[22:29] <rking> @ikonia neither is vnc. Having someone thats 60 years old expecting them to download an app and install it is problem some. Gotoassist is easy enough to get in and setup unattended access.
[22:29] <petrvs> I don't know about paid teamviewer, but free you have to already be communicating with the client
[22:29] <ikonia> it's a 3rd party package that the end user will need to install, as it has varying dependencies and also tries to be self contained, that is not a solution
[22:29] <ikonia> rking: no it's not, as it will depend on a security model that won't work with linux
[22:29] <petrvs> rking: you need both ends to work on Unix?
[22:29] <Voyage> Austneal,  pet Tin_man  hm
[22:30] <rking> @petrvs needs to be able to support all 3. Windows, Linux, OSX
[22:30] <Windowsaurians> anyone tryed calculate linux?
[22:30] <Austneal> Voyage, have you tried to find a wireless kvm switch of some sort?
[22:30] <petrvs> Windowsaurians: it's a Red Hat
[22:30] <rking> @ikonia, I know why you'r reccomending it but it won't work for what I need. Any other suggestions, and I agree teamviewer is ugh.
[22:30] <Windowsaurians> isnt it gentoo?
[22:30] <Voyage> so in $10 I can make it wireless? can you show me the image/ link/ of that brand? Austneal  Tin_man  petrvs
[22:30] <petrvs> Windowsaurians: oh sorry was thinking scientific, ha
[22:31] <Voyage> Austneal,  no
[22:31] <petrvs> Windowsaurians: not a big fan of derivative distros
[22:31] <Austneal> Voyage, i don't think this is going to be done for $10
[22:31] <ikonia> Windowsaurians: it's nothing to do with ubuntu, so nothing to do with this channel
[22:31] <Voyage> Austneal,  <Tin_man> Voyage,  I agree with petrvs, unless you just want the experience, a wireless usb is only around 10.00 at walmart
[22:31] <tgm4883> rking: ikonia meh, teamviewer is the closest he is going to get to minimal user interaction and cross platform
[22:31] <rking> @tgm4883, hmm
[22:31] <petrvs> Voyage: if yo already had a looootttt of expertise to bring the time required for your labor down to almost nothing, you could potentially do it for $10... if you were willing to wait for things to ship, or bicycle to places to get parts
[22:32] <ikonia> I don't believe it is a sane soution and will actually cause more problems than it fixes
[22:32] <petrvs> Voyage: he meant a whole keyboard
[22:32] <Austneal> Yes voyage, for a whole keyboard
[22:32] <petrvs> rking: it wouldn't be that hard to create a dynamic executable you can link people to, that does any number of things, including vnc over ssh
[22:32] <petrvs> or {insert whatever}
[22:33] <petrvs> the one thing they always have to do is follow a link, if you aren't already in control of their box
[22:33] <tgm4883> ikonia: I still don't see why it's that insane of a solution. Sure you will have edge cases, but I believe the client support part works OOTB on Ubuntu
[22:33] <petrvs> so determine OS > serve executable
[22:33] <ikonia> tgm4883: it works/breaks depending on the state of ubuntu
[22:33] <petrvs> or you could try using something web-based
[22:34] <Voyage> Austneal,  petrvs  Tin_man   no guys, I have a usb keyboard. I am looking for some wireless adapter type of thing.       pc-wireless usb-         wirelsssusb - keyboard
[22:34] <petrvs> Voyage: yeah, but you aren't going to find one I don't think
[22:34] <tgm4883> ikonia: if you say so
[22:34] <Voyage> Austneal,  petrvs  Tin_man   my keyboard give shocks when on ac
[22:34] <petrvs> Voyage: might ask #electronics, don't get your hopes up
[22:34] <Voyage> Austneal,  petrvs  Tin_man   my keyboard give shocks when laptop is on ac
[22:34] <petrvs> Voyage: then I'd replace it
[22:35] <Voyage> petrvs,  i think its about laptops
[22:35] <Austneal> Voyage, what? xD
[22:35] <Voyage> the laptop or ground wire
[22:35] <Austneal> Can you pm me?
[22:35] <Voyage> sure
[22:35] <petrvs> Voyage: http://www.amazon.com/Nulaxy-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Computers-Patented/dp/B00T5YXNL0
[22:36] <petrvs> can probably find a smaller/cheaper one, seems like a waste of money
[22:36] <Voyage> petrvs,  thanks
[22:38] <Voyage> petrvs,  thanks
[22:38] <petrvs> Voyage: np man
[22:47] <epx998> how do i check my ubuntu version?
[22:48] <petrvs> epx998: cat /etc/*version* /etc/*release*
[22:48] <epx998> thanks
[22:49] <k1l_> epx998: lsb_release -a
[22:50] <thms> k1l_: Gonna launch this NFS rsync backup
[22:50] <k1l_> good luck then
[22:50] <thms> How can I list launched service so I shut them down ?
[22:50] <thms> it's better to shut them down while I do it right ?
[22:51] <thms> it's loads of rtmp streams
[22:52] <nicomachus> hi guys, I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10, and after the restart I can't log in. I put in password, hit enter, and it just reloads the same login screen.
[22:52] <thms> Don't know if it's worth the downtime for the users.
[22:52] <hid> hello
[22:52] <hid> how can i know my battery temperature?
[22:52] <hid> i tried with acpi -t but not working
[22:52] <hid> it seems that my battery is overheating
[22:53] <thms> Was gonna say acpi -t too
[22:53] <nicomachus> lm-sensors doesn't give battery temp does it?
[22:53] <k1l_> nicomachus: log into the tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) and then do a "ls -al" and see if stuff belongs to root:root instead of user:user
[22:53] <nicomachus> I can't even open a terminal.
[22:53] <k1l_> nicomachus: tty1. not terminal
[22:53] <nicomachus> ctrl+alt+f1 gives no result either.
[22:54] <hid> nicomachus: it gives CPUs T°
[22:54] <epx998> can i asked a question with no flames, why do you think ubuntu is better than centos ?
[22:54] <hid> a battery is normally at 20°C
[22:54] <epx998> new to doing admin work on ubuntu
[22:56] <ruind> how do i go about preventing services from starting at boot?
[22:56] <rking> epx998, Honestly, the only sever difference is the scalability with ISV's further up the chain with Redhat as you grow. After that, BOTH can run a LAMP stack or any other OPENSTACK just fine. When you get to clustering etc redhat wins with management services. But for <50 servers. Ubuntu will work just fine.
[22:56] <ruind> $ sudo update-rc.d -f rpcbind remove'  doesnt work
[22:57] <bekks> !upstart | ruind
[22:57] <epx998> hmm ok
[22:57] <rking> @epx998, Other than working with the know stability of Redhat. Even though Ubuntu server is great. It's still an unknown with bigger corporations as how new it is to the market.
[22:57] <rking> known*
[22:57] <nicomachus> k1l_ I think F1 isn't working for me because I have to use a function key to get to the F keys.
[22:57] <epx998> never worked in an ubuntu shop before
[22:58] <rking> @epx998, It's really preference. I find apt-get a lot better than yum. And I know sysadmins that hate apt-get and love yum. Both are capable. Go with what you are comfortable with.
[22:58] <rking> Unless there's some really strenuous requirements.
[22:59] <ruind> bekks, yea... and how do I use upstart to do that?
[22:59] <epx998> yeah
[23:00] <epx998> rking: yeah - hoping my current pain point with ubuntu is just related to whomever build these vm's
[23:01] <rking> @epx998, Ubuntu is quite capable with Virtualization licenses. Do you have a question from that vs centOS?
[23:01] <bekks> ruind: like this: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[23:01] <pavlos> ruind, http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[23:01] <DANtheBEASTman> anyone here familiar with minidlna? it's giving me permission errors, even though I explicitly tell it to run as root..
[23:02] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: dont explicitly tell things to run as root when its not needed
[23:02] <DANtheBEASTman> error I'm getting is [2015/04/22 17:59:53] minidlna.c:594: error: Media directory "A,/media/dan/205C-5FBD/music" not accessible [Permission denied]
[23:02] <rking> @danthebeastmean How are you explicitly telling it to run as root?
[23:03] <DANtheBEASTman> k1l_: I don't normally, but I wanted to at least test that running as root would do that
[23:03] <rking> @danthebeastmean You don't need root for a media server. You just the correct chmod permissions and network access.
[23:03] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: just get your file permissions right instead of making a huge security issue out of it
[23:03] <DANtheBEASTman> k1l_: how would you suggest I do that?
[23:04] <rking> @danthebeastman Set correct permissions on the media server for sharing. That will be ever evolving depending upon whether you want read or write access or no access.
[23:04] <thms> k1l_: http://serverfault.com/questions/684781/resize-raid-partition-with-gpt-partition-layout-without-lvm/684839#684839
[23:04] <thms> The solution the guy provides, isn't that valid ?
[23:04] <thms> Instead of reinstalling the system ?
[23:04] <thms> I think I will try it before.
[23:05] <k1l_> thms: raid, lvm etc is not my business.
[23:05] <K4k_alt> How do you stop a runaway cronjob? I created a job with "* */6 * * *" when I meant to do "0 */6 * * *" and now I've got rsync spawning a processes every minute that emails me upon completion
[23:05] <thms> k1l_: ho, okay :)
[23:05] <K4k_alt> I've killed all the currently running processes, fixed the crontab file and restarted the cron daemon
[23:06] <K4k_alt> actually... the cron service is not even running right now and they're still spawning
[23:06] <rking> @k4k_alt did you do ps -e to see the jobs
[23:06] <petrvs> K4k_alt: while(true); do killall rsync; done
[23:07] <K4k_alt> rking: yes, I'm currently watching `watch "ps -e | grep rsync"`
[23:07] <K4k_alt> I periodically run killall rsync but they come back after a second or two as new PIDs
[23:07] <rking> @k4k_alt weird, and you said you restarted the cdaemon?
[23:07] <K4k_alt> are there any other cron daemons?
[23:08] <K4k_alt> `service cron restart`
[23:08] <K4k_alt> and just now `service cron stop`... is there another daemon?
[23:08] <K4k_alt> anacron is not running
[23:08] <rking> sudo service cron stop
[23:08] <K4k_alt> rking: I'm already root
[23:09] <rking> then take out sudo ha
[23:09] <rking> see if that 1min job stops
[23:09] <K4k_alt> it has not yet, cron has been stopped for about 20 minutes
[23:09] <K4k_alt> ...is it possible that it's just a backlog of queued jobs?
[23:09] <rking> do service cron start
[23:10] <rking> and does it tell you waiting and it started?
[23:10] <K4k_alt> started
[23:10] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: put the user the minidlna server runs as (like minidlna) into the group the files you want to read belong to and make sure the group file permissions are right
[23:10] <rking> service restart cron and see if that kills the hung job
[23:10] <epx998> rking: no - just tring to build some POC servers, i inherited a puppet 3.1.0 environment and ran into pkg dep's on these vm's when trying to deploy the latest and greatest
[23:10] <k1l_> DANtheBEASTman: make sure the /media/Dan.... thing is mounted with right options, too
[23:11] <K4k_alt> OH! hang on, I haven't seen a new rsync job spawn in the last minute
[23:11] <K4k_alt> dang... it just made another
[23:11] <rking> @epx998 oh deps issues :P
[23:11] <K4k_alt> screw it, I'm rebooting
[23:11] <rking> @k4k_alt well, why not figure it out
[23:11]  * k1l_ goes afk now. so if there is anything you need to know just ask the channel 
[23:11] <rking> @k4k_alt it's better to learn now than later when you can't reboot.
[23:11] <K4k_alt> rking: because it's blowing up my phone and I'm technically not at work right now so I'm doing this to save my own sanity, not pay
[23:12] <rking> because it's a production server
[23:12] <rking> hahahaha
[23:12] <rking> @k4k_alt alright man
[23:12] <K4k_alt> you're right, I should learn to figure it out, and I will... just not when it's blowing my phone up and I'm trying to have dinner :)
[23:12] <petrvs> what's for dinner?
[23:13] <rking> what petrvs said
[23:13] <rking> I'm hungry
[23:13] <K4k_alt> Chicken Kiev
[23:13] <rking> niiice
[23:13] <petrvs> ^
[23:13] <rking> ok I'm out for a bit. Laters
[23:13] <petrvs> you know, dinner actually means lunch, and before that it just meant breakfast
[23:13] <DANtheBEASTman> k1l_: it's fat32 partition, mounted with umask=0000, that's about as good as permissions as I can get
[23:13] <petrvs> whereas supper... oh supper
[23:15] <DANtheBEASTman> oh he went afk.
[23:16] <DANtheBEASTman> anybody else familiar with minidlna?
[23:17] <petrvs> DANtheBEASTman: just explain your problem to the channel
[23:17] <petrvs> no need for polls
[23:17] <DANtheBEASTman> error I'm getting is [2015/04/22 17:59:53] minidlna.c:594: error: Media directory "A,/media/dan/205C-5FBD/music" not accessible [Permission denied]
[23:18] <petrvs> who owns it?
[23:18] <Dumle29> Hmm I'm getting sort of annoyed with gnome, and it's bugs. For example, all my qt4 based programs almost always have issues with their menubar (clicking it does nothing) and prompts (in sitiuations where a promt would popup, it doesn't, and leaves the progra unresponsive waiting for user input) What window manager should I look for, that would provide me with a quick overview of all my open windows, with the push of a button?
[23:18] <ruzekle> have you checked out xfce?
[23:19] <Dumle29> I did just install xubuntu on my laptop, but I haven't had time with it. That also seems to lack the feature I love the most about gnome 3. I can just hit my super key, and I can instantly see all my open windows and choose one
[23:19] <Dumle29> or search for a program and launch it immediately
[23:20] <ruzekle> hm -- well xfce has panels and browses apps via the panel bar
[23:20] <ruzekle> do you use so many apps at once that you'd need gnome's feature?
[23:20] <Dumle29> Hmm I might just have to give it some time
[23:20] <petrvs> Dumle29: if you use compiz with Xfce you can get that
[23:21] <Dumle29> ruzekle: I have 3 monitors, so after some time I'll have quite a few windows open, spread over the place
[23:21] <pr0tlogic> I just want into this bug, does anyone know a work around for the time being? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/+bug/1307744
[23:21] <DANtheBEASTman> petrvs: it's vfat/fat32 partition, there is no ownership
[23:21] <petrvs> and a few other things besides compiz
[23:21] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: Can you pastebin your config file?
[23:22] <Dumle29> pr0tlogic: Have you looked at the link posted on that bug report? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2216779&page=2
[23:22] <Scunizi> User Manager in system settings of 14.04 kubuntu is pretty worthless.  How do I get to one where I can see all the users and groups?
[23:22] <DANtheBEASTman> it's default, except I changed the user to root (just to see if that would get around permission errors) and I added the directory
[23:22] <Dumle29> pr0tlogic: Hmm that might be the way to go about it. Can I install xfce and just pick it as the system default?
[23:22] <Dumle29> s/pr0tlogic/petrvs
[23:22] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: ^
[23:23] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: Can you please pastebin your config file? :)
[23:23] <DANtheBEASTman> http://sprunge.us/fECU
[23:24] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: And whats the output of "mount | grep music"?
[23:24] <petrvs> Dumle29: yup, simple process
[23:25] <pr0tlogic> Dumle29: thanks saw that, but just tried disconnecting networking and then installed and it's no longer stuck where it was, thanks for the help though.
[23:25] <petrvs> Dumle29: compiz, skippy-xd, brightside, take your pick
[23:25] <petrvs> compiz has a couple other nice features, though
[23:25] <petrvs> like zooming
[23:25] <petrvs> and per-window color inversion
[23:25] <Dumle29> petrvs: Will take a look :)
[23:25] <petrvs> and then a thousand other useless features
[23:25] <Dumle29> color inversion?
[23:25] <petrvs> like water effects and fire effects
[23:25] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: no output, music is a dir inside /media/dan/205C-5FBD/
[23:25] <petrvs> white becomes black, black white
[23:26] <petrvs> blue becomes orange
[23:26] <petrvs> nice for late night contrast swapping
[23:26] <Dumle29> why would you use that? :o
[23:26] <petrvs> ^
[23:26] <Dumle29> oh
[23:26] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: Ah, so pastebin that line from mount please
[23:26] <petrvs> I use it, and xcalib -i -a to swap the entire session, too
[23:26] <petrvs> and also some other xcalib things to do what redshift and f.lux do
[23:27] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: /dev/sdb2 on /media/dan/205C-5FBD type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,umask=111,dmask=000,iocharset=utf8)
[23:28] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: And can you pastebin ls -lha /media/dan/ too, please, I need to see the line containing /media/dan/205C-5FBD only
[23:28] <nicomachus> any tips on being unable to bring up TTY1?
[23:28] <K4k_alt> Anyone else running 15.04 beta2 on a macbook pro and have the digital audio light in the headphone jack stuck on? I can't seem to get amixer to turn it off
[23:28] <petrvs> nicomachus: how're you trying?
[23:28] <DANtheBEASTman> _NiC: C-A-F1
[23:28] <DANtheBEASTman> oops, nicomachus ^
[23:29] <nicomachus> petrvs: CTRL+Alt+F1 does not work. no response.
[23:29] <nicomachus> neither does Alt+F1
[23:29] <petrvs> nicomachus: chvt 1?
[23:30] <nicomachus> As an update: I upgraded from 14.04 to 14.10, and upon restarting I cannot login. I type password, hit enter, and it just reloads the login screen
[23:30] <nicomachus> what is chvt?
[23:30] <Dumle29> petrvs: sudo apt-get install xfce4 ? That should do it?
[23:30] <ptsm> good evening
[23:31] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: drwxrwxrwx   4 root root  32K Apr 22 18:29 205C-5FBD/
[23:31] <ptsm> lilo is giving me: Fatal: Trying to map files from unnamed device 0x0015 (NFS/RAID mirror down ?)
[23:31] <ptsm> after a do-release-upgrade from lucid to precise
[23:31] <ptsm> cat /prod/mdstat looks ok
[23:31] <ptsm> any ideas?
[23:32] <petrvs> Dumle29: ummm, on Ubuntu, I would probably go with xubuntu-desktop, and then fix the appearance prefs
[23:32]  * petrvs prefers upstream's take on Xfce a little more than Xubuntu's
[23:32] <petrvs> Dumle29: 'xfce4' should work, too, though
[23:33] <petrvs> Dumle29: and compiz, if you want that
[23:33] <Dumle29> compiz fusion and emerald?
[23:34] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: What about the permissions of music/ ?
[23:35] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: they're the same, all files and dirs on the partition are 777, vfat doesn't store permissions in the filesystem
[23:35] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: But you are mounting them with mapped permissions, see you mount line.
[23:36] <DANtheBEASTman> right
[23:36] <DANtheBEASTman> the umask option I added
[23:37] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: the umask line is for the permissions, not the ownership. Try mounting it for the group minidlna is running at.
[23:37] <bruxC> hello, is there a good plex repo that anyone here uses? I've tried deb http://www.plexapp.com/repo lucid main
[23:37] <bruxC>  -- but it errors out.
[23:38] <bruxC> p.s. asked in #plex but no one's avail atm.
[23:38] <DANtheBEASTman> bekks: minidlna is running as root
[23:38] <bekks> DANtheBEASTman: Do not run it as root.
[23:42] <hkrrsx> whaddup
[23:42] <Dowzee> bruxC, not sure where I found this but my plex server has the repo deb http://plex.r.worldssl.net/PlexMediaServer/ubuntu-repo lucid main
[23:43] <bruxC> I'll take it :3
[23:43] <bruxC> Thanks Dowzee
[23:43] <Dowzee> bruxC, np but im not sure how often its updated, pretty sure ive installed the .deb from plex site because that repo was outdated
[23:44] <bruxC> Aw, bummer. Well, it seems to work better than the one I had.
[23:44] <bruxC> Appreciate it.
[23:45] <thms> k1l_: you dpkg --get-selections, I am RTFM'ing, how does it differ from dpkg -l ?
[23:45] <thms> And why can it show deinstall purge or hold.
[23:46] <bruxC> You just used RTFM'ing as a verb. Nice.
[23:46] <EriC^> thms: it shows the status of the package i guess, if it's marked as hold or whatnot
[23:47] <nicomachus_> So, any tips on bringing up TTY without using CTRL+ALT+F1?
[23:47] <EriC^> thms: dpkg lists all packages and says if its installed or just the configs are there or what ( the first column that says ii or rc etc. )
[23:47] <thms> bruxC: thanks.
[23:47] <bruxC> ;)
[23:47] <nogoodnameslkeft> From tomorrow we should have MATE, right? Does that require 3d acceleration? Is it fine for machines currently running Lubuntu due to having older hardware?
[23:47] <EriC^> nicomachus_: chvt 1 ?
[23:48] <EriC^> it needs sudo
[23:48] <thms> EriC^: thanks, I know understood :)
[23:48] <thms> now*
[23:48] <nicomachus_> EriC^ what is chvt 1?
[23:48] <EriC^> nicomachus_: it's a command, sudo chvt 1 , it will take you to tty1
[23:49] <nicomachus_> I don't have a command line. :/
[23:49] <EriC^> thms: no problem :)
[23:49] <EriC^> not sure i follow what's going on..
[23:49] <EriC^> you booted to a blank screen?
[23:49] <nicomachus_> I'm on the login screen after upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10
[23:50] <nicomachus_> I have a password box and a menu bar(ish)
[23:50] <EriC^> is it a vm?
[23:50] <bb> sexy ladys
[23:50] <nicomachus_> no. pc.
[23:50] <nicomachus_> going to try to ssh into it from my laptop real quick.
[23:50] <EriC^> nicomachus_: ok, what's the problem?
[23:50] <bb> woman
[23:51] <nicomachus_> EriC^: when I login, it just refreshes the login screen. Stuck here.
[23:51] <EriC^> ok, and ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't take you to tty1?
[23:52] <nicomachus_> no. I think because I have to hit Function to get to F1.
[23:52] <EriC^> ok, hit it
[23:52] <nicomachus_> I did
[23:52] <nicomachus_> doesn't work. none of the F# keys work.
[23:52] <nicomachus_> (when combined with Ctrl+Alt)
[23:52] <EriC^> nicomachus_: ok, boot in text mode, or recovery mode and drop to a root shell
[23:52] <EriC^> you probably have to own ~/.Xauthority
[23:53] <EriC^> nicomachus_: does the guest account work?
[23:53] <nicomachus_> no, guest account doesn't work either. ssh says connection refused.
[23:53] <nicomachus_> It takes my decryption password just fine.
[23:54] <bb> bobalot 4 sexy fun
[23:54] <nicomachus_> ^this guy...
[23:55] <bazhang> bb wrong network
[23:55] <nicomachus_> ugh grub didn't come up. restarting again.
[23:56] <bb> phonenm
[23:57] <nicomachus_> EriC^ booted command line from grub. Is that what you were saying to do?
[23:57] <EriC^> no, boot in text mode
[23:57] <EriC^> add text to the kernel line
[23:57] <nicomachus_> how do I do that?
[23:58] <EriC^> linux vmlinuz ... quiet splash text