[02:05] <bluesabre> did we ever get a rebuild today?
[02:07] <bluesabre> looks like no
[02:08] <bluesabre> imma rebuild now then :)
[02:08] <bluesabre> anybody around to see the flames?
[02:08] <bluesabre> Unit193: ?
[02:14] <bluesabre> requested a rebuild, not sure if it worked :)
[02:35] <Unit193> bluesabre: WHAT YOU WANT?
[02:35] <Unit193> :P
[02:36] <Unit193> bluesabre: Well, was waiting for ubiquity or casper, but oh well. :D
[03:03] <Unit193> bluesabre: [23:03:15] < jderose> is it expected that when doing a vivid encrypted home folder install (ecryptfs), grub should prompt you for a passphrase at boot?
[04:35] <bluesabre> sounds like fun
[04:36] <bluesabre> but for now
[04:36] <bluesabre> zzz
[05:09] <Unit193> Wow, you waz up late.
[05:12] <Unit193> elfy: It works now, live session.
[05:15] <Unit193> Power down, not so much.
[05:17] <Unit193> http://i.imgur.com/5lKpLi5.png
[06:18] <elfy> Unit193: didn't get that 
[06:24] <elfy> 32 and 64 bit vbox - boot, fail to shutdown
[06:25] <elfy> 64 bit doesn't start to desktop
[06:26] <elfy> ^^ kvm
[06:31] <elfy> mmm 
[06:31] <elfy> in kvm - both start and shutdown if you start 'try' from the boot menu 
[06:40] <ochosi> elfy: i got the same thing like Unit193 yesterday when i tried a 32bit image
[06:41] <elfy> ochosi: ack
[06:42] <elfy> I 'think' all the fixes they were getting in yesterday before a global rebuild didn't happen
[06:46] <ochosi> sounds quite probable
[06:46] <elfy> hard to tell from the backlog
[06:51] <elfy> hardware works at least 
[06:59] <elfy> I wonder if all the breakage would miraculously stop if the went back to upstart :D
[07:28] <elfy> looks like a hands in the air and wander off muttering response to vbox fails :D
[07:36] <astraljava> Yeah I need to do some reading up on why we went with systemd and abandoned upstart.
[07:36] <elfy> because we follow Debian
[07:37] <astraljava> Right, but by 'we' I mean the whole ecosystem. :p
[07:39] <astraljava> I remember catching some heated convos about it on some mailing list, but the concrete details was left in the shadows, and instead it quickly deteriorated into the usual banter on why you suck because you support the different technical solution.
[07:40] <astraljava> *details were
[07:46] <Unit193> Good luck.
[08:01] <astraljava> Why, you don't think the agreement was easily reached? That's so hard to believe, when it comes to Debian. *blink* *blink*
[08:10] <Unit193> Months of 'further "discussion"', thread after thread after flamewar.
[08:12] <astraljava> Ok, I'll just look into stackexchange.com for a comparison, someone's bound to have done that. :p
[08:13] <Unit193> Meh, going in we all knew they were going to pick systemd anyway.  Kind of miss the stability of upstart though.
[08:13] <astraljava> Right, I never did get that familiar with the core bits.
[12:01] <elfy> world is rebuilding currently
[12:02] <elfy> also as I intimated earlier - if there are vbox issues are going to remain 
[13:52] <astraljava> "elfy | world is rebuilding currently" - How fitting, on Earth Day even.
[15:44] <elfy> world rebuilt
[15:44] <elfy> just smokescreening everything right now
[17:16] <KW4HK> smokescreening?
[17:19] <elfy> yep - trying desperately to cover everything in a cloud of black smoke so we can release regardless
[17:19] <elfy> obviously meant smoke testing
[17:34] <elfy> knome: you say yes - but the release team might pull back and say no :D
[18:10] <knome> elfy, yes for what? :)
[18:15] <elfy> Quick question is Xubuntu 15.04 going to be released on April 23, 2015?
[18:15] <elfy> :D
[18:15] <knome> hah
[18:15] <knome> well,
[18:15] <knome> that's to the best of my knowledge atm..
[18:15] <elfy> ha
[18:16] <elfy> just about to pull together what I know 
[19:36] <elfy> sent a sort of 'where we are' mail now
[19:59] <elfy> if pleia2 and knome and any other social media types could social mediay the last mail - that would be awesomey 
[19:59] <pleia2> yep, on it :)
[19:59] <elfy> \o/
[21:33] <bluesabre> elfy: exciting mail, that one
[21:35] <elfy> bluesabre: the oh my word this is broken all over one? 
[21:35] <bluesabre> yeah, that one
[21:35] <bluesabre> :D
[21:35] <elfy> :)
[21:36] <elfy> tried to make it positive - not very easy 
[21:37] <elfy> bluesabre: did you catch my message re rebuilds? tick our boxes and then mark for rebuild - just rebuilds us
[21:37] <knome> i guess somebody should bring this up... where are we with the release notes and announcement?
[21:37] <elfy> you should only be able to do that for something you're in -release for anyway
[21:37] <elfy> knome: same as always
[21:37] <knome> ":)"
[21:38] <elfy> I thought that we agreed announcement was website thing :D
[21:38] <knome> i guess so
[21:39] <bluesabre> elfy: I figured it out, and did a rebuild last night :)
[21:39] <bluesabre> but thanks :D
[21:39] <elfy> bluesabre: oh yea ... 
[21:39] <knome> elfy, do we have a fairly up-to-date list of bugs?
[21:39] <Unit193> knome: Simple, "We now have Xfce 4.12!" :---D
[21:39] <elfy> I saw this morning 
[21:39] <bluesabre> Unit193: yep
[21:39] <slickymaster> lol Unit193 
[21:39] <bluesabre> :D
[21:39] <elfy> knome: not very 
[21:39] <knome> bluesabre, did you say you were pulling together some notes of new stuff?
[21:40] <bluesabre> knome: yeah, will likely have a complete list a bit later
[21:40] <knome> this is the point in the release when i wished all of the new features were documented in the blueprints...
[21:40] <knome> bluesabre, great, ping me then
[21:40] <elfy> knome: it's likely that release will be later than beta2
[21:41] <knome> later?
[21:41] <elfy> us vs uk timezones
[21:41] <knome> aha
[21:41] <knome> that's fine
[21:41] <Unit193> Not sure it counts, but upgrades for core users now works...
[21:41] <knome> but it's "tomorrow", so better get something moving now..
[21:41] <knome> Unit193, i guess i practically count as one
[21:42] <elfy> knome: the bugs on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/ReleaseNoteBase are more or less current still from bp
[21:42] <elfy> only one 'wrong' is the reboot bug
[21:42] <knome> ok, i have this bug with lightdm
[21:42] <knome> now the layout is correct
[21:42] <elfy> and I think that needs some 'writing' not just a bug number
[21:42] <knome> but then it starts "loading" something
[21:43] <knome> or it might just as well just be flipping the mouse between the monitors
[21:43] <knome> hmm.
[21:43] <knome> double-click helped
[21:43] <elfy> I'll have to catch up on backlog - failing to sit up straight now 
[21:43] <knome> it's likely something with my very dirty config.
[21:43] <knome> and/or dualhead config
[21:44] <knome> elfy, and thanks for the link
[21:45] <knome> http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-1504-release
[22:06] <knome> bluesabre, feel free to add to the pad directly
[22:06] <knome> i'll take care of the final formatting so no need to worry about that
[22:06] <bluesabre> knome, cool, sounds good
[22:07] <knome> also uploaded the release announcement artwork on the blog already ;)
[22:07] <bluesabre> added a bit of contribution
[22:07] <knome> lol
[22:08] <knome> bluesabre, just checking... the new walllpaper is uploaded already? :P
[22:08] <knome> bluesabre, and used?
[22:08] <knome> :P
[22:13] <bluesabre> knome: trolling, or not? I quite like the vivid wallpaper :)
[22:13] <knome> not.
[22:13] <knome> i just didn't remember when/if we pulled the switch
[22:14] <bluesabre> yeah, probably forgot since it was before UIF
[22:14] <bluesabre> for the first time in a long long while
[22:14] <bluesabre> ;)
[22:14] <knome> yeah... so long time ago
[22:36] <bluesabre> package diffs that we care about http://paste.ubuntu.com/10868565/
[22:36] <bluesabre> I'll get the relevant things out of there and into the pad
[22:36] <knome> bluesabre, cheerio
[22:38] <Unit193> I'm rebuilding core ISOs now to test them and make sure they're all alright, will rebuild as close to final release as I can, make torrents, and everything.
[22:38] <bluesabre> Unit193: good sir
[22:38] <krytarik> Torrents \o/
[22:42] <Unit193> krytarik: Figured you'd like.
[22:42] <krytarik> :D
[23:05] <bluesabre> knome: added all the interesting things I could think of, and fixed the xfce 4.12 release date ;)
[23:05] <knome> nice
[23:12] <knome> ok, i'm off to bed
[23:12] <knome> see you all later
[23:14] <bluesabre> nighty knome