[05:21] <innosam> Hi, i was looking to build cloud-init from source as debian packages. Anybody have idea on, how to do that?
[06:21] <innosam> Hello
[18:59] <alexpilotti> smoser harlowja: just got the plane tickets for Malta
[18:59] <harlowja> malta, i don't think i be at that one :-P
[18:59] <alexpilotti> smoser: cpopa will be there as well
[19:00] <harlowja> unless smoser  pays for me to go, lol
[19:00] <alexpilotti> aka next week :-)
[19:00] <harlowja> cool
[19:00] <harlowja> sounds nice 
[19:01] <alexpilotti> harlowja: I’ll feed him some beers and try to convince him to buy your ticket :-)
[19:01] <harlowja> ha
[19:01] <harlowja> thx
[19:01] <alexpilotti> so what about we do some hangouts?
[19:01] <alexpilotti> I mean next week?
[19:01] <smoser> alexpilotti, hey. awesome. i was just thkning 'why didn't allesandro respond to me'
[19:02] <alexpilotti> smoser: we like to live dangerously and we handle event logistics at the last possible moment :-D
[19:04] <alexpilotti> smoser: whene did you write me? I might have missed it!
[19:06] <devicenull> I dont suppose anyone here knows how to convince dpkg to actually reconfigure things in ubuntu?
[19:06] <devicenull> it seem that whenever I run 'dpkg-reconfigured -f noninteractive cloud-init', it just updates the debconf database with whatever I have in 90_dpkg.conf
[19:20] <smoser> devicenull, what did you want it to do ?
[19:20] <devicenull> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/devicenull/40c80e71bf8ce21bff1f/raw/3e443af8e83848c4a9bc8990c764cf257b79255f/gistfile1.txt
[19:21] <devicenull> well, that's what it does.. I wanted it to set the metadata config to Ec2, None
[19:21] <devicenull> I just resorted to overwriting 90_dpkg, which actually works
[19:22] <smoser> devicenull, i think thats as intended.
[19:22] <smoser> ie, debconf-is-not-a-registry
[19:22] <smoser> you can seed package installation
[19:22] <smoser> but after that, i think its supposed to behave like it is
[19:22] <devicenull> well, I'm not sure what the point of the 'noninteractive' frotnend is then
[19:23] <devicenull> I dont use ubuntu much, so I could be doing something wrong here
[19:26] <smoser> devicenull, i'm sorry, this has always been confusing for me too.
[19:26] <smoser> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709773
[19:29] <devicenull> ahh, so debconf values are generated based on what's actually configured on the machine
[19:29] <devicenull> rather then debconf being the source of truth, and updating files based on what debconf says
[19:41] <harmw> god I hate openstack
[19:41] <harmw> should a vxlan deploymnt contain any vxlan specific iptable rules?
[20:27] <smoser> devicenull, that is my understanding, yes.
[20:28] <smoser> on first install, cloud-init wil read preseed values
[20:28] <smoser> but after that, debconf-is-not-a-database. (but it is still confusing to me)