[00:00] when the user launches the app again, the app can be shown again and resume from the last working state [00:01] hello folks.... do we know when KUBUNTU 15.04 will be downloadable? announced was 23th of april 2015 ? [00:02] cuestion, here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ [00:04] thanks a lot...this is still the beta version or now the first "official3 version? [00:05] cuestion: the "official release" will be tomorrow [00:05] cuestion: You can download the latest rolling image which came out today, but the official release will be tomorrow. Things may or may not change between todays image and tomorrows [00:06] ok....will it be the same link to dowload...or will it appear under DOWLOAD section of the home [00:07] cuestion: I suspect it will be under the downloads section [00:08] perfect so many thanks for your important work [00:12] cuestion: you can dl the daily then zsync to the final if you want [00:12] !zsync cuestion [00:12] oops [00:12] !zsync | cuestion [00:12] cuestion: Use zsync to update your Ubuntu CD image without needing to download the parts that didn't change. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage [00:14] ubottu, where's the best place to get development and bug updates of kubuntu? [00:14] toan__: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:17] so many thanks [00:20] toan__: add backports and perhaps beta ppa [00:21] basically you get everything you need if you just do your updates when the little shield appears in your taskbar [00:21] it's so good lately I hardly ever use the cli to update/upgrade anymore [01:08] Out of curiosity. In the past, how much actually changed between the release day +1 (today) release, and the release day image (tomorrow) [01:10] hard to say [01:10] every release is different [01:10] yeah [01:10] from our side, not much I think [01:10] I'm just debating installing todays image out of boredom and nothing else to do on a Wednesday night, heh [01:11] 15.04 is missing one of the panel widgets I use "Network Monitor" - will it come back soon in an update? [01:11] JeZxLee: I suspect it will. [01:11] hmmm, I have a network widget [01:12] I don't recall ever losing that [01:12] valorie: is it possible for me to do an in place upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 (todays image) so I keep my installed programs? (skype, steam and steam games, etc, etc)? [01:12] JeZxLee: is it perhaps in the "hidden icons"? [01:12] GunnDawg: you'll have to upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04 [01:12] hard to say if that's worth it [01:13] valorie: yeah probably not eh [01:13] hidden icons is the little /\ thing [01:14] ooops, how did it get so late [01:14] gotta go.... [01:14] take care valorie === len is now known as Guest50237 === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [02:35] lo everyone [02:36] Anyone have an idea what time the new release will be made? :) [02:36] when it's ready [02:36] thanks. [02:36] same question every six months, same answer [02:38] interestingly enough the release date is set for the 23 [02:39] and? [02:40] that ascorbic character of yours must go down a treat [02:41] I don't get what yuo are trying to say? [02:42] #kubuntu-offtopic === frecel_ is now known as frecel [03:25] hello all [03:26] 这里可以说中文吗？ [03:26] !cn | lishang [03:26] lishang: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [03:26] ok [03:42] Yes! - oh sorry I got excited [03:47] heya, any sign of the full release of 15.04? [03:47] massiveoni: releases tomorrow [03:49] ahh [03:50] ive seen that it releases on the 23rd, but it never said what time, or which timezone [03:50] lol, its noon on the 23rd for me [03:51] they dont specify a time. It will be available for download on their site when it launches [03:51] yeah, i guess its a 'its done, when its done' thing === Malkavian is now known as Malkavian2015 === Malkavian is now known as Malkavian2015 [03:55] UbuntuMATE 15.04 is kind of interesting, might check that out [03:55] KDE is my favorite though [04:13] hi === blubberbop is now known as phoenixz === kevin is now known as Guest10280 === VTREIS is now known as vitorreis [06:22] good morning. guys i have a little problem. i use vlc for watching movies. i have some of the downloaded movies and the sound is not working. the intro has sound but when the movies actualy starts no sound [06:24] aliman: are you sure it isn't the file itself? [06:24] i dunno. it is the 2nd movies already. i hope i wont find more [06:24] also you might try with a different player such as dragon [06:24] which is actually ours [06:25] vlc is not a KDE application; that said, it should work [06:26] maybe some codecs missing, do you have installed: kubuntu-restricted-extras ? [06:27] valorie, thxit is working with dragon. i think vlc is the prob [06:27] oh good thought, soee [06:28] sudo apt-get autoremoveshould remove unneeded files right? [06:29] yes [06:29] so if i use this command i dont need to go to home and show hidden files and delete what i dont need? [06:30] autoremove is better [06:32] thx === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [07:16] Since April I have a vivid Vbox daily upgraded. Now I got problem (again) with sddm, it takes several seconds to start and it freeze after few time (about a minute). Yesterday I tested a fresh install of 92413 iso and sddm works fine. Can anyone explain this? [07:18] there seemed to be some mystery situation between systemd and sddm [07:18] I'm glad it's fixed [07:20] Maybe the problem is on "virtualbox-guest-x11" [07:20] Sometimes I've noticed that when Kubuntu locks instead of showing the sddm lock screen it shows a different more plain one. [07:21] Also if you disable kwallet it doesn't really go away but now the wallet manager is broken. :( [07:22] I just heard that is fixed, wldcordeiro [07:22] but it won't get into today's release of course [07:22] The lock screen or kwallet valorie ? [07:22] kwallet [07:22] migration at least [07:41] around what time will 15.04 be up? [07:45] Good morning. [07:47] Naphatul: unknown [07:47] "today" is as much as we know [07:53] It is released whenever it is ready and the announcement sent. [08:19] Hi guys! At what time the 15.04 is going to be released? [08:19] Vivid is released whenever it is ready and the announcement sent. [08:20] Mensfeld: when it's ready [08:20] oops, lordievader beat me [08:20] Hihi, was still in my history ;) [08:20] good old up-arrow to the rescue [08:21] I'm distracted by the history of the Hubble space telescope I'm watching [08:21] such gorgeous images [08:21] I have a friend who programs for that project [08:22] Whooo, link? [08:22] http://video.pbs.org/program/nova/ [08:22] hopefully viewable outside the US [08:23] Seems not :( [08:23] boo [08:25] perhaps your public TV stations will rebroadcast it [08:25] or something like it [08:25] I doubt it. [08:25] :( [08:26] nova isn't always great, but this was a really good one [08:28] * lordievader Vivid is released whenever it is ready and when the announcement is sent. [08:28] That'll do I suppose. Set it to an alias :D [08:28] /say, not /me [08:29] Ah, it is /say, was looking for that XD [08:29] That is better indeed. [08:30] Thanks Unit193 :) [08:30] Sure. === len is now known as Guest51488 === juboxi is now known as jubo2 === Adrien[Flem][LPG is now known as Adrien_ === Adrien_ is now known as Adrien__ === Adrien__ is now known as Adrien06 [09:17] really in 2 minds for my work desktop - Debian 8(KDE) or Kubuntu 15.04.... [09:17] home I have 15.04 and it is nice, few rough edges at present though. [09:41] guys how can i change my desktop wallpaper [09:44] anybody? === monkeyjuice is now known as monkeyjuiceing === monkeyjuiceing is now known as monkeyjuice [09:45] morning [09:45] aliman: Right click on open desktop. Desktop settings? [09:46] mparillo, hmmm i only have 1 wallpaper there? [09:48] So you can get new wall papers or open an existing image you have. [10:05] Hi all, does anybody know which package I have to install to get Qt assistant for ver.5 in kubuntu 14.04 ? === marcus_ is now known as Guest70171 [10:50] sooo...when is 15.04 coming? [10:50] I'm so anxious [10:51] Howdy all [10:52] howdy [11:04] does anyone know, how long until 15.02 of kubuntu will be released? ive already downloaded the 15.04 of ubuntu, but i cant find kubuntu [11:05] sorry 15.04 not 02 [11:07] massiveoni, 15.04 here, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ [11:08] im downloading that one now, i didnt know if that was the full release or not [11:08] massiveoni, what was ? [11:09] blueskaj, what do you mean [11:09] im downloading that one now, i didnt know if that was the full release or not [11:10] i didnt know if that one in that link was a beta [11:11] the url i posted is the full release id you update and upgrade ...the repsos for the full release as you call it are probly being hammered [11:12] ok cheers [11:14] You can download the latest beta/rc and then use zsync to bring it up-to-date [11:17] alvin, yup did that yesterday, it's mostly up to date now...but the latest image isn't released yet === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [11:52] hello folks, for today the release of UBUNTU and KUBUNTU_15_04 was announced ... I cannot see anything on the websites ... do we still have to wait or does anyone know what is happening ? [11:53] release_15_04, word is another 2 hrs minimum wait time [11:53] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/vivid/release/ [11:55] Tobzi, thanks [11:55] BluesKaj: np [11:56] thanks, Tobzi, but later on with this beta-versioy?n using the update function I will have the "official" release which was announced for today...I mean it is better to wait until tomorrow to use the official image? [12:00] release_15_04: If you're on 15.04 beta you dont need to reinstall, you can just dist-upgrade [12:00] Tobzi, the ppl at the ubuntu-release-party say the devs didn;t want anyone to post a URL to the latest until it has been 'properly' announced. [12:01] Tobzi, release_15_04 , so the release is still not official [12:03] @ BluesKaj - thanks ! But when will be the OFFICIAL kubuntu 15.04 be given to the public,I mean today is 23th of April 2015? [12:03] Vivid is released whenever it is ready and when the announcement is sent. [12:04] release_15_04, join #ubuntu-release-party for the official anouncement [12:04] @hateball - thanks a lot ! [12:04] @BluesKaj, thanks, I will do so === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [12:36] @hateball: but using dist-upgrade from the latest beta of kubuntu 15.04 will be as goog as waiting for the official release? [12:38] Yes. The only thing upgrading to a new Ubuntu version really does is change the version name in the configuration files for the package system. [12:38] Changing that name tells your system to download and install the new/updated packages that are part of the new Ubuntu version. [12:46] release_15_04: Yes [12:55] Hello === kubuntu is now known as Guest41962 [13:04] hmmm, kubuntu 15.04 keeps forgetting all settings [13:04] e.g. in dolphin I manually added some places [13:04] after reboot they are gone [13:04] or I set the desktop background to folder view [13:05] after reboot it's gone [13:07] dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't offer the selection screen for which locales to use [13:21] hyper_ch: You're thinking of Debian. In Ubuntu, add the locales you want to /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local and then run dpkg-reconfigure locales (Don't ask me why) === kubuntu is now known as Guest9194 === Guest9194 is now known as kubuntu_user === kubuntu_user is now known as kubuntu_user231 [13:25] hi all! === kevin is now known as Guest87490 [13:39] Hi everyone, anybody knows the release hour? [13:39] alvin: and how do I set which one should be default? [13:40] hyper_ch: /etc/default/locale I think [13:40] alvin: /supported.d/local has only one entry [13:40] But in /etc/default/locale you need to specify thins like "LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"" [13:40] but when I do dpkg-reconfigure locales it generates a lot more [13:41] that directory (supported.d) probably contains more files [13:41] it generates en_AG, en_AU, en_BW, ........ [13:41] Oh, ok. I believe that's normal [13:41] KDE will ignore those settings anyway... [13:41] alvin: it's not kde [13:42] it's the shell that keeps complaining [13:42] I only have 2 lines in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local (and I see now one of them is wrong...) [13:42] perl: warning: Setting locale failed. [13:42] perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: [13:42] LANGUAGE = "en_US:de", [13:42] LC_ALL = (unset), [13:42] LANG = "de_CH.UTF-8" [13:42] In my laptop kde forgets the brightness setting after reboot, is it normal? [13:42] cediddi: any hour now! [13:42] Yes, it's a very common error, that 'locale failed' Are you in an SSH session? [13:43] alvin: no [13:43] it's local [13:43] (And do those locales even exist. KDE invenst invalid locales for where I live, so I have to change them every time to something that does exist.) [13:43] ok, in that case. What did you put in /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local? [13:44] alvin: well, that's what I get by default without having added anything [13:44] I added now de_CH.UTF-8 UTF-8 [13:44] still same [13:44] Is that German? [13:44] yes [13:44] Shouldn't the language be de_CH then? Instead of en_US:de? [13:45] So, the question is. Where does LANGUAGE come from, right? I'd expext en_US.UTF-8 if you want English. Or C, maybe? [13:47] what do you mean? [13:48] Well, something has set your LANGUAGE to en_US:de [13:48] alvin: that was the installer [13:48] there's just way too many things not working [13:49] e.g. it gives some strange error at boot up only because I run raid1 [13:49] the usb keyboard isn't working for the luks password entry [13:49] Maybe you have the same problem as here. The installer sets my language to de_BE.UTF-8, which is incorrect and probably does not even exists. [13:50] having two attached external screens make plasma load really, really slow... when I just boot up notebook it's loaded in 2-3 seconds... with two external screens it takes like 15 seconds [13:50] on the main screen when I set the background to folder view [13:50] But I don't believe the installer is at fault here. There's a KDE script that sets locales based on what is put in System Settings. And that part needs work [13:50] it doesn't survive reboot [13:50] alvin: well, same happens on debian.... when I chose as language english yet swiss german keyboard, it also gives some errors like that [13:50] You should test by using LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8 perl -v for example [13:51] but I fix it with dpkg-reconfigure locales where I can set what languages to install and which should be default [13:51] Yes, but that works in Debian. Not so in Ubuntu [13:52] those things are just no-go [13:53] It works. I set that 'local' file, change /etc/default/locales and DO NOT TOUCH the KDE system settings where you set the language. [13:54] btw, plasma5 should be better in that regard === oshikuru is now known as Guest53549 [14:21] Hi guys! Got a question - where is Kubuntu 15.04? I received a news via RSS about Kubuntu 15.04 but it's says "Acces denied" (http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04). [14:29] dune_in, join #ubuntu-release-party and you'll see the official release anouncement there, wwhen it happens. === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [14:33] another bug: when you set desktop to folder view [14:33] and try to shift-delete items, it won't work [14:38] @BluesKaj, thank you! [14:39] dune_in, yw [14:40] hi BluesKaj [14:41] hi hyper_ch [14:42] BluesKaj: how can I make in 15.04 that my desktop settings stick: I want folder view and after reboot, it's back to the other one [14:44] and does plasma 5 not offer anymore kdialog? [14:44] hyper_ch, , not sure about folderview, i don't see it in widgets in 15.04 [14:44] BluesKaj: right-click desktop -> folder view settings -> layout "Folder View" === DeadS0ul- is now known as spawn57` [14:47] hyper_ch, I just have folder and desktop , no folderview in layout [14:50] BluesKaj: http://images.sjau.ch/img/7b2a0272.png [14:54] BluesKaj: also when I add places to Dolphin, after reboot they're gone === ian is now known as Guest71459 === Guest71459 is now known as iangabriel [14:56] help? [14:57] any java developers out here? [14:57] hyper_ch, unfortunately my prntscrn doesn't work when a drop down is open, but I can assure you i don't ahve folderview in layout [14:57] BluesKaj: I started print screen, set delay of 5 secs and then gave drop down [14:57] BluesKaj: you're not on plasma 5? [14:58] how do i install a tar.gz? [15:04] BluesKaj: why can't I report plasma bugs at kde.org? [15:09] konsole is also very unstable [15:10] it freezes every few minutes [15:10] tbh, I'm not really happy with the state of 15.04 [15:12] hyper_ch, have you dist-upgraded lately? , suggest you update upgrade and dist-upgrade [15:12] BluesKaj: fresh install from this morning [15:12] blank install, not even upgrade [15:12] no matter run the commands anyaway [15:14] firefox and ca-certs [15:17] hyper_ch, have you checked the driver manager to makesure you have the recommended graphics driver etc? [15:17] yes [15:17] as said, it's a lot of small annoying things [15:17] e.g. not keeping settings for reboot [15:18] (desktop and dolphin places), lots of freezing of konsole, kontact crashes rather often, ..... [15:18] also when booting up, I can't enter luks password with the attached usb keyboard [15:19] I have locale problems.... konsole is totally weird and the dpkg-reconfigure locaes doesn't work [15:19] I'm getting few crashes of apps when exiting them , but that's about all other then the prinscrn not working when there's ab active drop down , even with the delay [15:19] BluesKaj: removing a resource from akonadi -> crash [15:22] hyper_ch, open ~/.config/akonadi then find akonadiserverrc and StartServer=true , change it to false [15:22] what will that do? [15:24] well, that's not a big issue... bigger is the dolphin places and desktop folder issue [15:27] it'll prevent akondi from loading [15:28] ** Kubuntu 15.04 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04 [15:28] BluesKaj: you can't run kontact without akonadi [15:29] nice [15:30] switzerland keyboard setup has been an issue for the last 3 years or so [15:30] BluesKaj: in what file is the setting stored that desktop background should use folders? [15:30] hyper_ch: at least now it doesn't crash, and I've some thoughts on things to try to fix it [15:30] and where are the dolphin places locations stored? [15:31] konsole froze again [15:32] hyper_ch, kubuntu 15.04 officially released , then nvigate to plasma 5.3 and add the ppa [15:32] http://www.kubuntu.org/ [15:33] 15.04 download too slow; canceled - they must be getting hammered [15:33] BluesKaj: I already have that [15:33] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu vivid main [15:34] that's the one, right? [15:35] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta [15:35] BluesKaj: yeah, got that already [15:44] I wish Kubuntu would autostart ssh-agent and set SSH-ASKPASS=ksshaskpass like Fedora KDE does. Pretty handy for developers. [16:08] is Plasma 5 good stable to go? [16:11] so, I can't browse with the Select Icon thingy in the KDE Menu Editor [16:13] reborn: it's awesome to go! [16:14] hyper_ch: yeah it's a bug [16:14] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346316 [16:14] KDE bug 346316 in general "Browse icon button in edit application no listed add icons" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [16:15] MoonUnit`: why can't I report plasma/desktop bugs? [16:17] so, anyone can tell me what file to edit to add places to dolphin? [16:17] konsol frozen again [16:18] when is Kubuntu 15.10 going to be release? [16:19] just a joke :) [16:19] another konsole freeze [16:20] another one... I think I have a pattern now [16:20] when I maximize it with double-click on the top bar... it freezes === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.kde.org | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | Kubuntu 15.04 is out http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04 - the most beautiful desktop alive! [16:24] Same the system requirement, yes? [16:28] ? [16:29] dolphin problem solved... still plasma desktop folder view [16:29] where is supposed to be saved that file? === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [16:55] Did dolphin get fully ported to kf5 in this new release? [16:55] nope http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html [16:56] ah thought it would make it in time for 15.05 [16:57] shadeslayer: the problem is the package with -lts isn't marked as a replacement for the one without -lts [16:59] or as an upgrade for it either [17:24] Hi! I hope this is happening to someone else: Plasma on Kubuntu 15.04 is crashing constantly. Does anybody know how to solve it? [17:27] No one? Really? [17:35] airsynth, just arrived , what's your issue ? [17:44] hmmmm, where are the system icons saved? since the brows button doesn't work [17:44] ? [17:45] tuv0k: 15.04 when editing that applications menu you can't use the browse button to search for other graphics [17:45] hyper_ch: /usr/share/icons/ [17:45] drw: thx [17:46] hyper_ch: weird though, before last week you could browse the icons [17:46] MoonUnit`: I can't [17:46] drw: and where to put there? the interface uses categories [17:47] hyper_ch, installed plasma 5.3 beta ...no desktop, no panel, nothing, just the cursor shows up :) [17:47] does anyone know how to disable holidays in the calendar/clock widget? i unchecked show events in the preferences but it still lists holidays beside the calendar [17:47] don't know if its a kde or kubuntu packaging bug. [17:47] and seems I can browse for icons, but am running 5.3beta from the kubuntu beta/backports ppa [17:47] BluesKaj: welcome to my world :) [17:47] drw: I am also running that on a fresh install [17:47] well , I'm gonna install the default image , no ppas for now [17:47] or where is the menu file saved, then I could edit that one [17:48] dunno [17:48] drw: i'm on 5.3b too but still can't browse them. [17:48] I used mini to install to achieve single-disk raid1 with luks encryption [17:49] ah, you mean the browse button when you go into change the icon? if so, then yeah I have the same thing :( [17:49] drw: yup [17:49] drw: so, where can I put a .png file so it can be used through one of the categories? [17:49] select "Other Icons" from Icon Source [17:50] then browse button is enabled [17:50] drw: i bit annoying i use the numix icons but some of them are hard to see so wanted to change them. [17:50] but clicking it does nothing...:( [17:53] ah, put it into /usr/share/icons/default.kde4/22x22/categories/ [18:13] jpwhiting: it's not meant as a auto upgrade [18:13] jpwhiting: it's meant as a "I know what I'm doing and will install the LTS backports" [18:18] I am upgrading to 15.04 [18:26] question: it is safe to use that Plasma v5.3 PPA on Kubuntu 15.04 64Bit? [18:26] JeZxLee: as always ymmv, i'm using it with no problems so far. [18:27] MoonUnit`: "no problems" /me checks backlog [18:30] I haven't had any issues using the beta/backports PPA version [18:31] I have countless issues with it [18:38] another question: where can I set desktop effect compositor to OpenGL in settings? [18:38] JeZxLee: Under the display settings. [18:39] Display and Monitor -> Compositor [18:44] shadeslayer: and yet if you install from a point release iso you get those lts backports automatically, so it's not always opt-in === sammy is now known as Guest70358 === kevin is now known as Guest95620 === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [19:21] sorry, one more question - when running old 14.10 how can I tell update manager to stop telling me to upgrade to 15.04 ? [19:21] JeZxLee, i'd suggest changing from normal releases to long term releases in update manager settings [19:22] if i were to put a .kwinrule file somewhere [19:22] where should it go? [19:22] I just installed the MySQL Client package in Ubuntu. Do I need to also install MySQL Server? [19:28] travnewmatic: I think this is the one in 14.10 /home/phoenix/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc [19:28] oops [19:28] thats my user name [19:29] ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc [19:30] rosco_y: what for? [19:30] hmm this is frustrating [19:31] apparently plasma 5 has moved away from the old thing which allowed programs to show in the system tray [19:31] to a new thing [19:31] which the programs that i use dont work with yet [19:31] the exception being skype [19:32] so no system tray icons by default for pidgin, or hexchat, or dropbox [19:32] also why after the update is dolphin still using plasma 4 icons [19:32] travnewmatic: I am updating my 14.10 to 15.10, so cant check right now. You could use the strace on the app to trace the file location [19:32] travnewmatic: i use trayer to see them. [19:32] http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ [19:33] ah [19:33] just missed [19:33] I was to post that now :) [19:33] lol [19:33] well [19:33] thats cute and all [19:33] but i dont want something on my desktop that i have to minimize all of my windows to get to [19:33] thats bullshit [19:34] i guess i'm wondeirng where to direct my frustration [19:34] this seems to be something that the applications are in charge of [19:34] kde made a new thing (which isnt ncessarily bad) that the applications need to adjust to [19:34] just upgraded to kubuntu 15.04, how do i revert back? it won't start after login in my Virtual Box [19:35] restore your backup [19:35] Pandorian: wait [19:35] do you see any error messages? [19:35] it just freezes before even opening any panels [19:35] buring the boot, something about bios [19:36] donniezazen: sorry I missed your query--I found the answer and I've been busy since :) I installed mysql server and client on my machine, so I'm good to go. Thanks anyways! [19:36] Pandorian: like acpi? [19:36] rosco_y: good. [19:37] can't remember for sure, i think so... it won't start at all now after i had to force shutdown the VBox... need to free up a bit of memory before i can restart it again [19:37] Pandorian: If it freezes after login. Can you get the .xsession-errors file from the home directory from a tty? [19:38] in any case, my desktop configuration is all different, incluidng wallpapers etc.. it's all messed up it didn't even warn me that this would happen [19:38] Pandorian: I don't think there is a way to go back from Plasma 5 to KDE 4. === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [19:38] murthy, how can i get to terminal to view the log file? [19:39] ctrl+alt+f1 [19:39] i'll take a look [19:39] Pandorian: are you there? [19:40] i didn't realize that this is upgrading to Plasma5, i seperate VBox installation already running Plasma5 lol [19:40] i have* [19:40] this is so messed up, all my work configuring KDE4 is now doomed and it was so beautiful ( [19:40] :( [19:40]