[00:00] <nicomachus_> I'm at root shell prompt
[00:02] <nicomachus_> EriC^: you're saying I may need to do something like this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/436925/ownership-of-xauthority-transferred-to-root
[00:02] <EriC^> nicomachus_: i thought so at first, but since the guest account doesn't work too it's unlikely
[00:03] <nicomachus_> this guy had a similar issue that ended up being AMD drivers. I have the same GPU: https://mwop.net/blog/2014-11-03-utopic-and-amd.html
[00:03] <EriC^> i guess you have to check lightdm's logs and see what's going on
[00:03] <EriC^> give it a shot
[00:03] <nicomachus_> except he had a blank screen and I have a GUI.
[00:04] <StomachEgg> help
[00:04] <StomachEgg> how do i install this on ubuntu
[00:04] <StomachEgg> https://github.com/prili/fb-hfc
[00:05] <Ben64> StomachEgg: it literally has instructions on that page
[00:05] <EriC^> nicomachus_: type lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA
[00:06] <nicomachus_> what am I looking for? Tells me GPU info and drivers.
[00:06] <EriC^> which driver are you using?
[00:06] <nicomachus_> fglrx_pci
[00:06] <EriC^> ok, try sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[00:06] <StomachEgg> i still odn't know how to install it
[00:06] <StomachEgg> Ben64 i follewed those instrucrtion
[00:07] <nicomachus_> one sec transcribing error to pastebin
[00:07] <EriC^> i don't know about the packages he mentioned, but i have amd and it uses xserver-xorg-video-ati
[00:07] <EriC^> and xserver-xorg-video-radeon ( don't know if that's what you have )
[00:07] <Ben64> StomachEgg: its a python script, you run it
[00:08] <nicomachus_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10868805/
[00:08] <StomachEgg> how do you run python scripts
[00:08] <Ben64> python script.py
[00:08] <nicomachus_> EriC^: that's the OS driver. I'm using the proprietary one. xorg wouldn't work for me. it was a long fiasco.
[00:08] <EriC^> nicomachus_: type mount -o remount,rw /
[00:09] <nogoodnameslkeft> StomachEgg: The other thing you can do it set it executable (chmod +x scipt.py) and then just double-click it
[00:09] <nicomachus_> ah, purge working now.
[00:09] <nogoodnameslkeft> StomachEgg: Although now I look at that script, running it from a terminal would be better.
[00:10] <nogoodnameslkeft> Is anyone here familiar with Ubuntu Mate?
[00:11] <Ben64> nogoodnameslkeft: not on topic here until 15.04 releases, maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:12] <nicomachus_> EriC^: I did 'sudo update-alternatives --remove-all x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf' next but no alternatives were found.
[00:12] <EriC^> ok, np
[00:12] <nicomachus_> ok, didn't think so. haha
[00:13] <StomachEgg> nogoodnameslkeft it keeps giving errors
[00:13] <StomachEgg> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Btb2qNgs
[00:13] <nogoodnameslkeft> StomachEgg: Did you install the dependancies in the readme on github? the bit about using pip?
[00:16] <nicomachus_> ok..... shutdown is taking wayyyy too long here.
[00:16] <nicomachus_> stuck on 'wait-for-state stop/waiting'
[00:21] <nicomachus_> ok I'm logged in now. thanks for the help EriC^.
[00:21] <EriC^> nicomachus_: great, no problem
[00:24] <nicomachus_> do I need to reinstall fglrx now? AMD Catalyst Control Center is gone
[00:25] <maysara> Hi, My laptop overheated a couple of days ago and since then  the fan is always running at full speed. How can I fix that?
[00:26] <nicomachus_> maysara: you may wanna ask over at ##hardware, but it's possible the thermal paste may need redone.
[00:30] <ptsm> can someone help me with lilo sayng "Trying to map files from unnamed device 0x0015 (NFS/RAID mirror down ?)" ?
[00:30] <ptsm> this was after an upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[00:36] <cuddylier> Anyone know the best way to test a drive? I did 'dd if=/dev/zero of=test_$$ bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -f test_$$' and got 44MB/s I/O for this whitelabel 4TB drive but new 1TB enteprise WDs I have get 120MB/s in the same test.
[00:36] <cuddylier> Is this a sign of a crap whitelabel drive?
[00:41] <workingman> how can i open a dmg file in ubuntu?
[00:43] <ptsm> can someone help me with lilo sayng "Trying to map files from unnamed device 0x0015 (NFS/RAID mirror down ?)" ?
[00:46] <psusi> ptsm, why are you using lilo?
[00:46] <hkrrsx> cuddylier: Found this URL regarding Ubuntu stress testing, including hard drive testing:  http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/11/stress-test-your-ubuntu-computer-with-stress/
[00:47] <JinjaNinja> Is there a way to make your HDMI Out screen have a perfect fit? I have a Mitsubishi 73" Flatscreen TV, and I use my Ubuntu PC with it to stream movies. Unfortunately, it's not a perfect fit. The edges seem to bleed out about 40 pixels.
[00:47] <nicomachus_> where will I find the xorg config file?
[00:47] <ptsm> psusi, because I was already using it
[00:48] <ptsm> psusi, I just did a do-release-upgrade from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS
[00:48] <psusi> ptsm, grub has been the standard for like... 15 years now?  you really should use it ;)
[00:48] <JinjaNinja> Bump  @my last post
[00:48] <psusi> it's far nicer than lilo
[00:48] <ptsm> psusi, as the system is right now, I'm unable to install grub
[00:48] <psusi> why not?
[00:49] <ptsm>  /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot (is /dev mounted?).
[00:49] <ptsm> and yes, /dev is there
[00:50] <psusi> what is your disk configuration?
[00:50] <ptsm> root is /dev/md0
[00:50] <ptsm> softare raid mirror
[00:50] <Tin_man> nicomachus_: i found this link, might help you.. or not.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there
[00:51] <psusi> do you have a /boot partition?
[00:51] <JinjaNinja> Is there a way to resize the resolution of HDMI output, to make it perfectly fit your screen? I have a Mitsubishi 73 inch Flatscreen TV, and I use HDMI with my Ubuntu PC, to stream movies. Is there a way to fix the resolution to where it's a perfect fit? My resolution hides about 40 pixels on the edges of the display
[00:52] <penos> JinjaNinja, recalibrate
[00:52] <penos> ur monitor
[00:52] <bb> tits
[00:52] <Ben64> JinjaNinja: probably is a tv setting
[00:52] <psusi> JinjaNinja, unfortunately, TVs suck, and just don't show all of the pixels
[00:52] <ptsm> yes
[00:52] <ptsm> a raid mirror partition also
[00:53] <psusi> and these mirrors are built out of one partition on each of two drives?
[00:53] <ptsm> yes
[00:53] <ptsm> the two disks have the same layout
[00:54] <psusi> hrm... and it is mounted currently?  can you pastebin the output of df, lsblk, and sudo grub-probe -t fs -v /
[00:54] <JinjaNinja> I've read something online about where you can install NVIDA driver, and then you can change the resolution scaling manually with the GUI?
[00:55] <penos> JinjaNinja, recalibrate
[00:55] <psusi> JinjaNinja, yea, I think there is something in there where you can basically tell the driver "my tv is stupid, and stops showing pixels *here*, so pretend the rest don't exist"
[00:55] <Ben64> JinjaNinja: you'd have better results if you fix the settings on the tv
[00:56] <ptsm> http://pastebin.com/yWxpdUGE
[00:56] <nicomachus_> thanks Tin_man. I've been looking at the manpage but it's mostly greek unless I can pull up the config file to compare it to.
[00:57] <JinjaNinja> I've got my TV to the maximum NON-zoom. It's as far out as the TV resolution settings will go, where the TV is concerned.
[00:57] <nicomachus_> JinjaNinja: that's exactly what I'm dealing with now, but AMD.
[00:57] <bb> FREE  WEB SEX
[00:57] <psusi> ptsm: looks like you don't actually have /boot mounted ( but you have a broken mtab that says it is )
[00:58] <bb> RUTH
[00:58] <nicomachus_> lol bb still here
[00:58] <ptsm> psusi: well, I can cd /boot and list the files there
[00:58]  * Ben64 pokes phunyguy 
[00:59] <psusi> ptsm, same goes for /bin, /etc, /initrd, /lib, /lib32, /lib/init/rw, and /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs
[00:59] <bb> FREE
[00:59] <JinjaNinja> penos: What do you mean by, 'recalibrate?'
[00:59] <bb> WEB]
[00:59] <ptsm> http://pastebin.com/mvXKbgkU
[01:00] <bb> CHAT
[01:00] <psusi> ptsm, is your /etc/mtab a regular file or a symlink?
[01:00] <ptsm> regular file
[01:01] <psusi> ptsm, ok, I think you need to delete it and reboot to unfsck it
[01:01] <nicomachus_> found the xorg.conf, but it was in a different place than that link said. it was under /etc/X11/
[01:01] <ptsm> psusi: the problem is I'm on a remote access
[01:01] <ptsm> and I suspect the machine won't boot
[01:02] <JinjaNinja> Damn... Resolution settings are so limited.
[01:02] <ptsm> what do you mean "unfsck it"?
[01:02] <psusi> ptsm, in that case, delete it, and use several mount -f's to fake remounting your real filesystems and update mtab
[01:02] <psusi> right now your mtab claims that you have /boot mounted twice, and several other filesystems mounted where you don't
[01:03] <nicomachus_> JinjaNinja: what driver are you using?
[01:03] <ptsm> psusi: why do you say I don't?
[01:03] <nicomachus_> open-source xorg?
[01:03] <ptsm> I don't like all those aufs there ..
[01:03] <ptsm> they seem to be created by the upgrade tool
[01:03] <JinjaNinja> nicomachus_: I'll check... I've forgotten
[01:03] <psusi> because the output in df for those filesystems says the type is none, and the block counts are identical to your root
[01:03] <bb> LOOKING4 SEX
[01:03] <Ben64> bb: stop.
[01:04] <psusi> which means mtab says something is mounted there, but when df calls statfs() on that path, it's just getting the info from the root fs because there is not really a filesystem mounted there
[01:04] <nicomachus_> ok JinjaNinja. type 'lspci -k | grep -A2 VGA' to check, fyi
[01:04] <psusi> you can consult /proc/mounts to see what is *really* mounted
[01:04] <psusi> and in fact, in modern releases, /etc/mtab is just a symlink there
[01:04] <psusi> so you may just want to replace it with the symlink
[01:05] <bb> PS LIKE 2 CHAT ]
[01:06] <psusi> in fact, I'd say yea, do that
[01:06] <psusi> unless you use nfs or smb mounts anyhow ;)
[01:06] <ptsm> according to /proc/mounts I have /booy mounted
[01:07] <ptsm> no nfs or smb mounts as client
[01:07] <psusi> right.. and you do.. but see how df lists it *twice*?
[01:07] <ptsm> yes
[01:07] <psusi> it should only be there once... so your /etc/mtab lists it twice which is wrong
[01:07] <ptsm> and it seems to list it twice because of the aufs stuff
[01:08] <psusi> I don't see any aufs stuff
[01:08] <psusi> nor should there be unless you have done some weird things
[01:08] <ptsm> none on /boot type aufs (rw,br:/tmp/upgrade-rw-YB0_Vl/boot:/boot=ro)
[01:08] <JinjaNinja> Hello to whoever I was speaking to, sorry, I'm on a mobile IRC client, and it doesn't save chat logs. :/
[01:08] <psusi> does /proc/mounts show any aufs mounts?
[01:09] <psusi> wait, did you do the sandbox upgrade option thing to do-release-upgrade?
[01:09] <nicomachus_> yes JinjaNinja?
[01:09] <ptsm> yes: none /boot aufs rw,relatime,si=9456a3db5fe7c013 0 0
[01:09] <ptsm> I tried the sandbox upgrade
[01:09] <psusi> ohh... I don't think that works right ;)
[01:09] <ptsm> but it gave me some error and aborted
[01:09] <JinjaNinja> nicomachus_:  https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/2oCcSG6DSAaTITlckE21
[01:09] <ptsm> so I did the upgrade without the sandbox option
[01:10] <nicomachus_> JinjaNinja: didn't you say you were using an Nvidia GPU?
[01:10] <ptsm> should I try to unmount the /boot aufs?
[01:10] <ptsm> I don't even know how to mount aufs mounts
[01:10] <psusi> well, I think the sandbox stuff did some really weird stuff to your system and I'm not sure how to undo it
[01:11] <ptsm> the thing is
[01:11] <ptsm> the process went apparently normal afterwards
[01:11] <JinjaNinja> No. I said that people with an Nvidia driver can edit their resolution scaling
[01:11] <ptsm> with my attempt without the sandbox option
[01:11] <ptsm> except for 2 packages
[01:11] <ptsm> bind9
[01:12] <psusi> oh dear, and you have gpt in the mix
[01:12] <ptsm> with a apparmor problem that's stopping it from load a so lib
[01:12] <psusi> right, but right now your system is in this goofy sandbox setup where it has used aufs to direct all of the changes the upgrade has made to alternate locations, leaving your original system intact
[01:12] <ptsm> the apparmor problem I found a workaround
[01:13] <JinjaNinja> nicomachus_: I have integrated GPU... It's a cheap computer. Lol.
[01:13] <ptsm> hmmm
[01:13] <ptsm> what do you recommend?
[01:13] <psusi> does your /etc/fstab have a bunch of aufs stuff in it?
[01:13] <ptsm> no
[01:13] <ptsm> looks normal
[01:13] <ptsm> as it was before the upgrade
[01:13] <JinjaNinja> nicomachus, so there's really nothing I can do?
[01:14] <nicomachus_> JinjaNinja: I gotcha. I'm not sure, but you may be able to adjust the xorg.conf file
[01:14] <nicomachus_> try cd /etc/X11/'
[01:14] <nicomachus_> without the '
[01:14] <ptsm> I see I have some 650mb used on /tmp/upgrade-rw-YB0_Vl (the aufs tmp dir)
[01:14] <nicomachus_> and then try gedit xorg.conf
[01:15] <JinjaNinja> But if I were to do that, wouldn't I have edit the xorg.conf file every time I unplug HDMI from my tv?
[01:15] <psusi> yea, that seems to be where all of the modified/upgraded files are actually at
[01:15] <ptsm> so
[01:15] <ptsm> in theory
[01:15] <ptsm> I could just unmount the aufs dirs
[01:15] <JinjaNinja> or is it just for outbound displays
[01:15] <ptsm> and everything would be like it was before the do-release-upgrade?
[01:15] <nicomachus_> I honestly don't know, JinjaNinja. I always keep mine plugged in. FYI, a VGA cable will adjust automatically.
[01:16] <psusi> something like that, yea... but I'm not quite sure how to do that... you can't just unmount it without a reboot
[01:16] <psusi> that's why I was asking about /etc/fstab
[01:16] <ptsm> I can try to remount them
[01:16] <psusi> can't remount either
[01:16] <ptsm> shit
[01:16] <JinjaNinja> nicomachus_: excuse the ignorance, I'm new to improv- Linux projects hahah
[01:16] <psusi> check this though... mount /dev/md1 into /mnt or something
[01:16] <nicomachus_> as am I...
[01:16] <psusi> and then go see what the fstab there looks like
[01:17] <psusi> it may be that your real /dev/md1's fstab sets up the autfs mounts, and when you view /etc/fstab through aufs, you are really looking at the one in that tmp dir
[01:17] <ptsm> but md1 is mounted as /
[01:17] <psusi> that's fine... you can mount it again elsewhere
[01:17] <ptsm> rw?
[01:17] <ptsm> or ro?
[01:17] <psusi> probably ro is best
[01:18] <ptsm> it says "already mounted"
[01:18] <ptsm> -f ?
[01:18] <JinjaNinja> for the record... NEVER use Kali Linux as a Local OS. Worst mistake you'll make. It has the most boring, non-user friendly interface you'll ever use. Unless you're just a cold-blooded hacker that always uses pentesting tools/ never wants to take a break and enjoy your computer, then don't use it locally.
[01:19] <ptsm> mount -f gave no errors
[01:19] <ptsm> it shows no files inside
[01:19] <psusi> odd... I don't get that error without -f
[01:20] <psusi> hrm... maybe that is something that changed later than 12.04
[01:20] <JinjaNinja> ptsm: Just set up a live USB of Ubuntu, and then wipe the Hard Drive with a fresh install of GRUB/ Ubuntu.
[01:21] <psusi> at this point I would feel more comfortable just doing a clean install of 14.04 ;)
[01:21] <JinjaNinja> ^
[01:21] <ptsm> this is a production system :)
[01:21] <ptsm> can't do that
[01:22] <JinjaNinja> Update me- What are you attempting to do, ptsm?
[01:22] <ptsm> and it works as it is
[01:22] <psusi> production systems should be rebuilt every 5 years or so ;)
[01:22] <ptsm> all I did was a do-release-upgrade on a 10.04 LTS server system
[01:22] <psusi> yea, but in a sandbox
[01:22] <ptsm> first try with the -s option
[01:22] <psusi> which is basically an unsupported feature
[01:22] <ptsm> it gave me errors
[01:22] <JinjaNinja> Damn
[01:23] <ptsm> and aborted
[01:23] <JinjaNinja> Start over xD
[01:23] <JinjaNinja> like, wipe it out and reinstall :P
[01:23] <psusi> I don't see anything in the man page about how to roll back the sandbox if you don't like it
[01:23] <ptsm> I don't know the aufs magic
[01:23] <ptsm> but
[01:24] <ptsm> I just read it does some kind of a union of dirs
[01:24] <ptsm> isn't it possible to just unmount it?
[01:24] <psusi> right... it uses aufs to take your original filesystem, and combine it with that tmp dir so that all writes go to the tmp dir and leaves your oroginal filesystem intact
[01:24] <psusi> well that's what I was saying earlier... you can't just unmount it since the system is running from it
[01:25] <psusi> you have to figure out how to change the config so that when you reboot, it will mount it normally and not with aufs
[01:25] <psusi> hence, checking fstab
[01:25] <ptsm> the fstab is good
[01:25] <psusi> ( I'm trying to figure out how the heck it configured the system to mount with aufs in the first place )
[01:25] <psusi> even the one in the /mnt?
[01:26] <ptsm> I couldnt see /dev/md1 (the root filesystem) when it was mounted inside /mnt/test
[01:26] <psusi> wait... you know what... maybe it didn't set it up to be there when you reboot?
[01:26] <psusi> and so if you just reboot, you will be back to the old system pre sandbox upgrade?
[01:26] <ptsm> maybe
[01:26] <ptsm> but right now, I don't have physical access to the server
[01:27] <psusi> and it isn't virtualized either I guess? ;)
[01:27] <ptsm> it's a real server
[01:27] <psusi> and no serial console or anything?
[01:27] <ptsm> no
[01:28] <ptsm> but yeah
[01:28] <ptsm> the old kernel is there
[01:28] <psusi> I just read this: http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2014-04/msg30955.html
[01:28] <ptsm> and lilo, supposely, didn't touch the disks
[01:28] <psusi> so yea... it sure sounds like do-release-upgrade mounted the aufs over the existing fs
[01:28] <psusi> and so a simple reboot will just load the original system as it was
[01:28] <nicomachus_> my xorg.conf file is empty...
[01:29] <ptsm> if it doesn't ...
[01:29] <ptsm> I'll have 4h sleep
[01:29] <ptsm> to be there soon tomorrow
[01:29] <ptsm> early
[01:29] <happyfr0gg> I have verified I have J.R.E. & the J.D.K. installed but I do not have the directory /usr/local/java. What gives???
[01:30] <psusi> in the future, I'd suggest that you get some new hardware ( since this is obviously fairly old ), install a minimal hypervisor system on it, and import the old system as a vm
[01:30] <ptsm> I thought about doing that
[01:30] <psusi> then when things go wrong you can still get in remotely, and when you want to test out a release upgrade, you can use snapshots and such for easy testing and rollback
[01:30] <ptsm> but I trusted the upgrade utility
[01:30] <ptsm> and I'm disapointed now
[01:30] <ptsm> after this happened
[01:31] <psusi> well, it sounds like the whole point of that sandbox thing is that it didn't actually change things and so a reboot will undo them... and boot loaders don't play right in the sandbox
[01:31] <ptsm> apparently, the bootloader didn't do anything
[01:31] <ptsm> didn't change anything
[01:31] <psusi> when I dist-upgrade my servers, I just make a full system backup, and go for the upgrade
[01:31] <psusi> and if things go pear shaped, restore the backup
[01:32] <psusi> or that's what I did before I got into virtualization anyhow
[01:32] <psusi> ( and I don't think I've ever actually had to restore, just nice to know it's there )
[01:33] <ptsm> well
[01:33] <psusi> usually it's just a matter of figuring out what service broke, and how to fix the conf file to make it happy again
[01:33] <ptsm> I'll satisfy your curiosity
[01:33] <ptsm> and mine
[01:33] <happyfr0gg> I have verified that J.R.E. & the J.D.K. are installed but the directory /usr/local/java does not exist.  What gives???
[01:33] <ptsm> I'll try the reboot
[01:33] <ptsm> now
[01:34] <ptsm> I changed the lilo.conf file
[01:34] <psusi> basically the boot loaders don't know how to set up the system to boot into the new sandbox'ed upgraded system ;)
[01:34] <ptsm> but it doesn't play a role on boot, right?
[01:34] <psusi> right, it is only used when lilo runs to modify the mbr
[01:34] <ptsm> yeah
[01:34] <ptsm> ok
[01:34] <ptsm> fingers crossed
[01:36] <ptsm> no response...
[01:37] <ptsm> still no response...
[01:38] <ptsm> it probably didn't boot
[01:39] <psusi> roh roh
[01:39] <Windowsaurians> how many people are using ubuntu?
[01:39] <ptsm> yeah, it's dead
[01:39] <ptsm> gotta go sleep
[01:39] <reborn> what's time for released tomorrow?
[01:39] <psusi> another thing to consider on servers is that when you do a snapshot, or in this case, the sandbox thing, if for instance, you are running a mail server, it would have accepted new mail and dropped it into the sandbox
[01:40] <psusi> so abandoning the sandbox would throw out that mail
[01:40] <Ben64> reborn: sometime
[01:40] <ptsm> well, it's not a mail server
[01:40] <psusi> so not the kind of thing you want to be doing on a server
[01:40] <reborn> alright.
[01:40] <ptsm> there's no one working on it right now
[01:40] <ptsm> it's an office server
[01:41] <brawndo> i have broken menus in vlc media player on a fresh install of lastest version linux lite. any suggestions?
[01:42] <ptsm> thanks for your help psusi
[01:42] <psusi> nice thing about virtualization is that if something like this happens, you can just ssh into the hypervisor and restore the full backup you did before trying
[01:42] <psusi> and get effectively a bare metal restore remotely
[01:42] <Ben64> brawndo: linux lite is not supported here
[01:43] <brawndo> the menus work, but the font is all [][][][][]
[01:43] <reborn> tomorrow is best day, because ubuntu will released, and one piece release. it is perfect for me or anyone same interest.
[01:43] <psusi> or better yet, make an lvm snapshot before upgrade and just revert to the snapshot
[01:43] <brawndo> Ben64, do you know if the linux lite channel still exists? i read it was no longer supported
[01:44] <Ben64> brawndo: i don't know of an irc channel for them
[01:44] <psusi> ptsm, also fyi, raid10 is *way* better than raid1 ;)
[01:45] <thms> I am in rescue mode right now and I am trying to mount an NFS file system, sadly mount command hangs forever.
[01:45] <brawndo> ok thanks. sorry if its an obvious answer, but being that linux lite is ubuntu based, any chance the fix might be the same?
[01:45] <Umair> ?????
[01:45] <thms> Any idea how I can debug this ?
[01:45] <Ben64> brawndo: this channel only supports ubuntu, we don't know what changes are in linux lite, sorry
[01:45] <brawndo> ok, thanks anyway
[01:46] <omnia> if somebody has a clue with nvidia please check this out ----> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=194588
[01:46] <Ben64> !mint | omnia
[01:47] <psusi> ptsm, and I think I have made sense of that error you got from lilo... it maps which blocks on the disk the kernel is in so it can embed that list into the mbr... but with the aufs sandbox, this isn't possible since some files are stashed elsewhere
[01:48] <omnia> im having this issue a long time now and nobody in the linux mint help or forum or elsewhere seems to have a clue
[01:48] <Ben64> omnia: that doesn't make it on topic here in #ubuntu
[01:48] <omnia> and linux mint is based on ubuntu so i thought ill give  it a try
[01:49] <Windowsaurians> is ubuntu being released or are they waiting for debian?
[01:49] <omnia> anyway sorry for posting it here
[01:49] <petrvs> Windowsaurians: they're waiting till it's ready for release
[01:49] <petrvs> doesn't matter when it's released, though
[01:49] <Windowsaurians> it matter they have a shedule
[01:50] <Windowsaurians> can some one ban phunyguy from #ubuntu-offtopic please?
[01:50] <petrvs> ban someone from an offtopic channel?...
[01:50] <Windowsaurians> hes ruining the channel
[01:51] <petrvs> what'd he do, say something on topic?
[01:51] <Windowsaurians> he banned me
[01:51] <petrvs> ...
[01:51] <ptsm> psusi, what should I use to access the system now? a ubuntu live usb?
[01:51] <ptsm> usb pen?
[01:51] <Windowsaurians> hes the one offtopic
[01:52] <Windowsaurians> vnc
[01:52] <Windowsaurians> ssh
[01:52] <xangua> Windowsaurians: please stop
[01:52] <psusi> ptsm, yea, liveusb or cd
[01:53] <psusi> ptsm, do you have a backup? ;)
[01:53] <ptsm> I have backup of the data and the /etc dirs
[01:53] <ptsm> daily backups
[01:54] <ptsm> but I hope I don't have to use it
[01:54] <psusi> what is your backup setup?
[01:54] <ptsm> tar
[01:54] <ptsm> :)
[01:54] <ptsm> very simple to recover
[01:54] <psusi> I really like tower of hannoi hierarchical dump backups ;)
[01:54] <nicomachus_> so apparently fglrx is completely incompatible with Ubuntu 14.10?
[01:55] <psusi> your dailies are relative to what and chained how long?
[01:55] <petrvs> nicomachus_: nah
[01:55] <Windowsaurians> nicomachus_: nop its the other way around
[01:55] <nicomachus_> petrvs: it locks at the login screen every time.
[01:56] <Windowsaurians> its software that support the hardware not the other way around
[01:56] <nicomachus_> I have to drop to root in recovery and purge fglrx
[01:56] <nicomachus_> so I'm using the xorg driver, but my xorg.conf is completely empty.
[01:56] <Windowsaurians> nicomachus_: try debian
[01:57] <nicomachus_> that is the worst possible answer to give in this channel.
[01:57] <Windowsaurians> ubunru is just debian test bed
[01:57] <Windowsaurians> ubuntu is like fedora for red hat
[01:57] <petrvs> nicomachus_: grep EE $(ls /var/log/Xorg.*log | tail -1)
[01:58] <Ben64> Windowsaurians: stop giving bad advice and being offtopic here
[01:58] <Windowsaurians> what bad advice?
[01:59] <petrvs> I wouldn't call it bad as much as overkill
[01:59] <ptsm> weekly full, daily incrementals from last full
[01:59] <Windowsaurians> fglrx works fine on debian
[01:59] <Ben64> nicomachus_: fglrx does work with 14.10, but I haven't used an ATI/AMD card in ages, so I can't really help you too much with it
[02:00] <Windowsaurians> Debian 8.0 Jessie Is Ready For Release This Weekend
[02:00] <Ben64> Windowsaurians: not on topic here
[02:00] <Windowsaurians> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Debian-Jessie-CD-Ready
[02:01] <nicomachus_> I had this issue with fglrx and 14.10: https://mwop.net/blog/2014-11-03-utopic-and-amd.html
[02:01] <nicomachus_> checking around, it looked pretty common.
[02:02] <psusi> ptsm, if you do a tar full backup once a week and then dailies in between, the worst case restore scenario is that you have to restore the last weekly, then each of the last 6 dailies
[02:03] <ptsm> in my case I have to restore the last full + the last daily
[02:03] <netameta> ubuntu is, debian-based 64-bit ? or RPM-based 64-bit ?
[02:03] <psusi> I've got a nice dump pattern set up where the worst case restore is 5 dumps.. with 2-3 being typical, and only two is the realistic best case.. but it also gives much better ability to go back a week or two or three and pull out some file someone deleted
[02:03] <petrvs> netameta: debian based
[02:04] <petrvs> netameta: both 64 & 32
[02:04] <petrvs> netameta: and, well, other arches than x86, I believe, too
[02:04] <netameta> I see
[02:04] <netameta> THanks
[02:04] <netameta> Thanks*
[02:04] <petrvs> yap
[02:04] <ptsm> psusi, do you think I'll be able to use grub to boot from the GPT + RAID0 root partition setup?
[02:05] <psusi> so you're doing a daily that uses the.. forget what it calls the listing file of the last backup... from the last full, rather than yesterday's daily?
[02:05] <psusi> yes, you can use grub to boot from gpt + raid anything root
[02:05] <ptsm> psusi, yes
[02:05] <psusi> including raid10 or raid5
[02:05] <psusi> the only thing with gpt is that you have to have a 1 mb bios_grub partition if you are in a bios booting machine
[02:05] <ptsm> last time I've tried, I couldn't
[02:06] <ptsm> 1mb bios_grub partition?
[02:06] <psusi> yea... it's a parted partition type... it's basically a flag telling grub this is the partition you should embed yourself in since the normal area in sectors 1-63+ aren't there on gpt
[02:07] <psusi> you can have grub installed on each of say, 3 disks with a 3 disk raid5 root and it can boot from any of the three
[02:07] <psusi> it's quite nice
[02:07] <psusi> much better than lilo, which can only load the kernel from a raid1 /boot
[02:08] <ptsm> so I'll have to create that grub-bios partition ..
[02:08] <ptsm> how big?
[02:08] <psusi> right.... or revert to MBR ;)
[02:08] <psusi> 1mb is plenty
[02:09] <ptsm> ok
[02:09] <ptsm> thank you
[02:09] <ptsm> I'm leaving now
[02:09] <ptsm> bye
[02:09] <psusi> night
[02:09] <moshefeit> but usually the grub will be handled by the installer, he was talking about dual boot, right?
[02:12] <psusi> moshefeit, no.. server
[02:13] <psusi> where he's still using lilo
[02:16] <cstk421> i have a bash script menu that initiates telnet sessions to console into network devices.  Once ctrl-] is entered it drops you into the telnet> prompt.  I am looking to stop that from happening and actually disconnect the telnet session.  This way it will loop back to my menu.
[02:16] <cstk421> have any idea how to do this ?
[02:16] <electricprism> Has anyone else tried to turn a Android Tablet into a Touchpad & Keyboard for the Linux?
[02:17] <petrvs> elementalest: as in just a touchpad & keyboard, or actually running GNU/Linux?
[02:17] <xangua> electricprism: you just need a custom kernel for that kind of feature
[02:17] <xangua> and he's gone...
[02:17] <petrvs> ha
[02:17] <electricprism> Has anyone else tried to turn a Android Tablet into a Touchpad & Keyboard for the Linux?
[02:17] <moshefeit> electriprism, try this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.pheodor.android.bluetooth_touchpad&hl=en
[02:17] <psusi> cstk421, you don't.. that's what ctrl-] does.. if you don't want that, then don't use that key.. logout properly from the remote system.
[02:17] <electricprism> moshefeit: thank you :)
[02:18] <netameta> Where is ubuntu's system try / how do i close an app from there ?
[02:19] <auzty> why i can't open mounted media? it's says Permission denied
[02:19] <auzty> i assure that the owner in ls -la is mine,
[02:20] <cstk421> psusi: not sure if there is a command from a cisco device that would actually end the telnet session
[02:20] <auzty> it's happened after i change my UID and GID ,
[02:20] <Ben64> auzty: where is it mounted, how is it mounted, what filesystem, etc
[02:21] <xangua> netameta: if you mean the unity desktop, it doesn't use system try but indicator icons
[02:21] <netameta> i have ubuntu 14.04 installed
[02:21] <netameta> i had an app running when i clicked it, it says the app is now in system try
[02:21] <netameta> i want to close this app
[02:22] <auzty> Ben64 , mounted to /media/auzty/ , fielsystem is NTFS
[02:22] <psusi> cstk421, of course there is, it is usually logout, or exit
[02:22] <cstk421> psusi: yeah tried those and it just exits to the press enter to start console / login screen doesnt disconnect
[02:23] <xangua> netameta: would you mind sharing what app?
[02:23] <psusi> cstk421, that's... really broken... ctrl-D?
[02:23] <netameta> xanqua, its odesk time tracker
[02:24] <cstk421> psusi: does nothing
[02:24] <psusi> wow... cisco is retarded then...
[02:25] <psusi> for that matter, you really shouldn't be using telnet... it's completely insecure
[02:25] <kostkon> !find odesk
[02:25] <cstk421> psusi: its on a secured network telnet is only being used to connect from one machine to another's serial console ports.
[02:25] <cstk421> psusi: no issue there
[02:26] <cstk421> psusi: thanks for the info though
[02:26] <psusi> is this a stand alone serial to telnet bridge that is connected to the switch, or is telnet running in the switch?
[02:26] <netameta> so how do i see the apps in system tray ?
[02:27] <cstk421> its a debian server running as a serial console server
[02:27] <netameta> I dont want to ps aux, and kill the services
[02:27] <cstk421> not telnetting into the switch. i am console into it from the telnet session
[02:28] <psusi> in that case, the serial console server should have a magic key to disconnect... but again, someone can walk into your office, plug in, and telnet into the server... or intercept your traffic to it and see your password and then connect and use that password
[02:29] <netameta> well i ended up just killing all the process
[02:29] <psusi> and that's assuming that this telnet server isn't accessible to the outside internet via ip
[02:30] <kostkon> netameta, let's hope it;s a qt app; what's the output of:  apt-cache policy sni-qt  ?   is it a 32bit app is your installation 64bit?   https://ws.elance.com/file/roster.jpeg?crypted=Y3R4JTNEcG9ydGZvbGlvJTI2ZmlkJTNEMTI0MjQ0MzUyJTI2cmlkJTNELTElMjZwaWQlM0Q3NjU5MTU2
[02:30] <netameta> its 64
[02:30] <psusi> or to the outside via a compromised machine on your network
[02:31] <kostkon> netameta, what's the output of:    apt-cache policy sni-qt    and   apt-cache policy sni-qt:i386       no need to use sudo
[02:31] <kostkon> netameta, are both installed?
[02:32] <netameta> yaps
[02:33] <netameta> kostkon why ?
[02:33] <kostkon> netameta, ok, then probably it's not qt-based. Anyway, it seems the app doesn't have support for indicators
[02:33] <netameta> also whats a good irc for ubuntu ?
[02:33] <psusi> cstk421, better yet, why use serial console at all?  the cisco should support just directly sshing into it
[02:33] <netameta> Not sure what indicators are
[02:34] <netameta> But i simply killed the process and re ren it
[02:34] <netameta> now its seems to be ok
[02:34] <cstk421> psusi: yes of course they do however we have no network access for this environment only console
[02:34] <netameta> i do need to find a irc for ubuntu as this is from my windows
[02:34] <netameta> and my ubuntu is on a virtual box
[02:34] <kostkon> netameta, ubuntu's tray icon are called indicators, different from those used in gnome/gtk and kde and/or qt and the rest...
[02:35] <kostkon> icons*
[02:35] <netameta> I see
[02:35] <psusi> cstk421, console is intended for a physically connected console.. if you are going to be doing it over the network anyhow, you should be doing it via ssh instead of with a side band telnet->serial bridge
[02:35] <netameta> Ahhhh
[02:35] <netameta> I se now
[02:35] <netameta> where the system tray is
[02:35] <netameta> its at the top
[02:35] <netameta> as opposed to windows at the bottom
[02:35] <kostkon> netameta, what sni-qt does it that it converts qt tray icons to indicator on-the-fly
[02:36] <kostkon> it's*
[02:36] <kostkon> indicators*
[02:36] <kostkon> netameta, top-right
[02:36] <netameta> Yaps
[02:36] <auzty> which application that run when we click mount a drive in nautilus?
[02:36] <netameta> Whats a good linux irc client ?
[02:37] <enchilado> irssi
[02:37] <cstk421> psusi: im not sure we are on the same page. I know how ssh works.  i am creating a console server b/c we are not allowed onto the network. we can only get to the devices via console connection.
[02:37] <kostkon> netameta, you could start off with hexchat
[02:37] <enchilado> netameta: http://www.irssi.org/
[02:37] <cstk421> psusi: it is impossible to ssh into devices we cannot get on the same network
[02:37] <kostkon> netameta, easy to use and popular
[02:37] <selig5_> \quit
[02:37] <psusi> cstk421, ohh, you are not allowed onto the network where the switch is, but you are allowed onto a different network where the serial bridge is?
[02:37] <kostkon> !info hexchat
[02:38] <netameta> kostkon how do i install it ?
[02:38] <enchilado> !info irssi
[02:38] <cstk421> psusi: correct
[02:38] <cstk421> psusi: the network the bridge is on is mine
[02:38] <kostkon> netameta, use the software centre or the terminal, i.e.  sudo apt-get install hexchat
[02:38] <enchilado> sudo apt-get install irssi
[02:38] <psusi> kind of a silly setup.. after all, if you can get to the switch to configure it you can then make it allow you onto the network.. but if you must, you should be using ssh at least to access the serial bridge
[02:39] <netameta> kostkon its free ?
[02:39] <kostkon> netameta, yes
[02:39] <enchilado> netameta: irssi is free too
[02:39] <enchilado> and better
[02:39] <netameta> Why its better ?
[02:39] <enchilado> You control it with the keyboard
[02:40] <cstk421> psusi: ok interesting about the ssh to serial bridge. The serial server ties each usb to serial adapter to a port in order to telnet to them.  Your saying i can do this over ssh ?
[02:40] <enchilado> When you're already typing to talk it's quicker to use keyboard commands than move your hand to the mouse
[02:40] <enchilado> and its scripts are nice
[02:40] <enchilado> it's very customisable
[02:42] <Bashing-om> netameta: http://www.andrews-corner.org/ubuntu/irssi.html <- good irssi install tutorial .
[02:42] <netameta> Nice
[02:42] <netameta> Thanks
[02:48] <psusi> cstk421, if the serial bridge is worth a darn, yea, it should also support ssh
[02:48] <cstk421> psusi: it does support ssh i just would know where to start looking to route ssh to a port for the usb to serial
[02:59] <ubuntu-studio> mmm
[03:14] <Foxhoundz> I'm trying to install 14.04 LTS Server edition on my PC
[03:14] <blueingress> hi, what is the ubuntu server channel ? thanks
[03:15] <Foxhoundz> but I'm getting the all-too--familiar "Your Installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted"
[03:15] <Foxhoundz> I tried mounting /dev/sdb, the USB media that's installing it, to /cdrom
[03:15] <Foxhoundz> but still nothing
[03:15] <Foxhoundz> I've seen this problem on several versions of Ubuntu Server
[03:15] <Foxhoundz> what's taking so long to fix?
[03:17] <petrvs> blueingress: /msg alis list *ubunt*serv*
[03:22] <blueingress> petrvs, thanks a lot, it helps.
[03:25] <ablegree-> Anyone have experience with corkscrew + ssh tunneling?
[03:25] <albert> hello i am having an issue where i run "nmcli dev wifi" and no networks are listed, yet running "iwlist wlan0 scan" returns networks. why would that be?
[03:25] <jmadero> daftykins: ping pong
[03:25] <petrvs> albert: wifi != wlan0?
[03:25] <jmadero> daftykins: sorry I didn't get back yesterday - got into a conversation with my grandfather in law and didn't want to abruptly end it
[03:26] <albert> petrvs not sure how do i check?
[03:26] <Guest83198> ifconfig
[03:26] <jmadero> daftykins: we figured out the issue though :) father-in-law is backing up files and purging windows from his laptop :-b only took me 10 years and a crazy ass virus to get him to make the change
[03:26] <ablegree-> Say I have a small program that connects to some remote MySQL server  listening on 3306. I need to connect to it via an ssh tunnel on port 443 through an HTTP proxy. Possible?
[03:26] <albert> petrvs i don't see wifi listed in ifconfig only wlan0
[03:27] <petrvs> was kind of my point
[03:27] <Guest83198> wlan0 if wifi
[03:27] <Guest83198> eth0 is ethernet
[03:27] <Guest83198> lo is loopback
[03:27] <Guest83198> wlan1 is second wifi
[03:28] <albert> got ya so why would one command list the networks and the other wouldn't? am i misunderstanding what each command does?
[03:28] <Guest83198> ifconfig lists interfaces
[03:29] <Guest83198> ifconfig -h
[03:29] <Guest83198> for help menu
[03:30] <albert> ah! got you, so i would modify my question to state why do i not see any networks listed in nmcli
[03:30] <Guest83198> wait you mean wifi hotspots?
[03:30] <albert> yes wifi hotspots
[03:30] <Guest83198> click on the wifi icon in the top right
[03:31] <Guest83198> or install aircrack-ng
[03:32] <albert> i just installed aircrack-ng, what does it do? as for wifi icon, clicking it shows "wireless networks not found in range"
[03:33] <Guest83198> sudo airmon-ng wlano
[03:33] <Guest83198> then
[03:33] <Guest83198> sudo airodump-ng mon0
[03:34] <Guest83198> wait
[03:34] <Guest83198> sudo airmon-ng start wlan0
[03:35] <jmadero> any thoughts on why my external monitor would stop showing a picture every 10 seconds or so?
[03:35] <jmadero> the monitor doesn't go idle, so the monitor behaves like the computer is plugged in
[03:35] <albert> ok running airodump-ng mon0
[03:35] <jmadero> also Ubuntu doesn't adjust to a single monitor - but the monitor goes black
[03:35] <Guest83198> do you see any networks albert?
[03:36] <albert> i see two tables, i can see my network on the bottom table
[03:36] <albert> but not on top
[03:36] <thiagogv> Hi guys, can I ask irc question here?
[03:36] <Guest83198> when you are connected to a network it only shows that one you are connected to
[03:37] <thiagogv> actually, questions about irssi
[03:37] <Guest83198> if you disconnect you can see more networks
[03:37] <Guest83198> if there are any nearby
[03:39] <albert> i am currently connect via ethernet, would that affect listing. i do see my neighbors network in the top table, but not mine. in the bottom table i see mine
[03:39] <thiagogv> if I join in a two channels,  how see chats simultaneously
[03:39] <Guest83198> disconnect ethernet
[03:40] <pr0tlogic> hello, I am trying to install lubuntu on my logical drive, but it doesn't show the raid 10 array it shows the drives as if in jbod, anyone know why?
[03:40] <Guest83198> mind=blown
[03:41] <aeon-ltd> thiagogv: depends on your irc client
[03:41] <jmadero> thiagogv: just use a chat client like pidgin and have the two rooms in different windows
[03:41] <Guest83198> i'm using smuxi
[03:42] <Guest83198> not mirc
[03:42] <albert> strangely after disconnecting ethernet i still didn't see my network jump to the top
[03:43] <Guest83198> is your network visible to any devices
[03:43] <Guest83198> can a phone see it?
[03:43] <albert> yes my kindle is connected to it
[03:44] <Guest83198> i don't see what the problem is
[03:44] <Guest83198> you have ethernet
[03:44] <thiagogv> jmadero: I run my stuff in VPS, so I looked for a terminal client for irc, and I found irssi, is that a good option?
[03:45] <jmadero> thiagogv: I've never used it and we don't usually talk about "good" and "bad" - everyone has their own preference
[03:45] <jmadero> thiagogv: so it's just a matter of if it does what you want it to do :-b
[03:45] <albert> yes it is really strange, will keep plugging away thank you for your help though
[03:45] <Guest83198> your welcome
[03:46] <aeon-ltd> thiagogv: irssi https://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit/
[03:46] <Guest83198> i am faultyjohn
[03:47] <thiagogv> aeon-ltd: thank you, I will read it.
[03:48] <kj4> hello. please tell me when the 15.04 is to be released?
[03:48] <somsip> kj4: today. Time is not known
[03:48] <Guest83198> faster is you donate
[03:48] <thiagogv> aeon-ltd: do you know other good articles that explain how to use irssi (and the terms and concepts under irc)?
[03:48] <q-bert> wouldnt 15.04 imply april 2015
[03:49] <somsip> q-bert: it absolutely states it
[03:49] <q-bert> right ...
[03:49] <jmadero> dammit this is really frustrating - Windows has no problems with this external monitor
[03:49] <jmadero> linux - every 10 seconds it goes black
[03:50] <q-bert> sorry to be pedantic, but you mean ubuntu right
[03:50] <Guest83198> did windows need a driver?
[03:50] <jmadero> lol nvm - just went dark with Windows machine
[03:51] <jmadero> just took a bit longer
[03:51] <aeon-ltd> thiagogv: the official is where i learned http://www.irssi.org/documentation
[03:51] <jmadero> hardware going out apparently
[03:51] <q-bert> it'sthe backlight then jmadero
[03:51] <jmadero> q-bert: even worth considering fixing?
[03:51] <q-bert> it can be replaced, but the economics of that depend on where you live
[03:51] <q-bert> that kind of thing would be expensive to get for me for example, in south america
[03:52] <jmadero> q-bert: it's a shitty monitor
[03:52] <somsip> !language | jmadero
[03:52] <q-bert> screw it then jmadero
[03:52] <jmadero> lol I love censorship
[03:52] <q-bert> oops
[03:52] <jmadero> q-bert: yeah sounds good
[03:52] <somsip> jmadero: merely politeness. This is a family-friendly channel. Thank you
[03:52] <Guest83198> censorship is censorsh**
[03:52] <jmadero> somsip: that's fine I'll respect the room rules, I didn't realize that an alternative of poop was bad
[03:53] <somsip> jmadero: not bad, just not welcome here. Thanks
[03:53] <jmadero> q-bert: yeah I got a free 19" coming tomorrow, but I was hoping to have 2 externals  :)
[03:53] <jmadero> might just buy another used 24"
[03:53] <q-bert> there's nothing like dual monitor
[03:53] <q-bert> once you try it you'll never go back
[03:53] <Guest83198> adios
[03:54] <jmadero> q-bert: well it's a 17.3" laptop
[03:54] <jmadero> so I already have two ;)
[03:54] <q-bert> oh
[03:54] <jmadero> was thinking a tri might be fun
[03:54] <q-bert> time to sleep
[03:54] <jmadero> q-bert: thanks for the advise
[03:54] <jmadero> take it eays
[03:54] <q-bert> cya
[04:20] <rockstar_> are there any VPN channel I can talk about? I wanted to use VPN in ubuntu, client connection seem simple. But I can't seem to connect to it. Any suggestion?
[04:21] <vonsyd0w> #ubuntu-server is a start
[04:21] <rockstar_> vonsyd0w: was that for me?
[04:22] <vonsyd0w> yes
[04:26] <jmadero> I'm getting this error with my fstab samba mount mount.cifs: bad UNC (192.168.1.66:/media/MEGAMAN)
[04:26] <jmadero> my fstab entry: 192.168.1.66:/media/MEGAMAN /media/MEGAMAN cifs credentials=/data/Joel_Documents/Computer/Scripts/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[04:27] <jmadero> but I can mount fine with this sudo mount -t cifs -o username=pi,password=testest //192.168.1.66/share /media/MEGAMAN
[04:28] <vonsyd0w> jmadero, the forward slashes are missing? //192.168.1.66:/media/MEGAMAN
[04:30] <jmadero> vonsyd0w: now I get this one mount error: could not resolve address for 192.168.1.66:: Unknown error
[04:30] <jmadero> but I can mount with the cifs -o option
[04:32] <vonsyd0w> oh, the colon after 192.168.1.66 shouldnt be there
[04:33] <tesla909> Ubuntu 15.04 released? where can I find the download link?
[04:33] <jmadero> ubuntu.com/download
[04:33] <jmadero> vonsyd0w: no good, same error
[04:34] <jmadero> tesla909: I don't think it released though
[04:34] <jmadero> tesla909: you can run the beta or RC - I am doing so now
[04:34] <tesla909> Thanks! But it still listed 14.10 as latest @jmadero
[04:34] <jmadero> tesla909: because 15.04 hasn't been released ;)
[04:34] <tesla909> It suppose to be released today right?
[04:35] <jmadero> tesla909: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[04:35] <aeon-ltd> eager mcbeavers here
[04:35] <jmadero> then just upgrade after you install it
[04:35] <jmadero> I already got it installed with 5 DE's ;)
[04:35] <jmadero> but my stupid samba mount is failing
[04:35] <tesla909> So I can update to stable release later from beta version?
[04:35] <kj4> what time does is actually release?
[04:35] <jmadero> tesla909: yes just by doing sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:35] <jmadero> kj4: no idea
[04:35]  * kj4 is an eager mcbeeeever
[04:36] <jmadero> I've been running the beta2 and updating daily for about 10 days
[04:36] <jmadero> it runs fine
[04:36] <tesla909> Thanks! I'm running 14.10 now...I guess I can upgrade it now to beta as well.... Later stable.
[04:36] <jmadero> tesla909: I hate upgrading between versions, I always clean install
[04:37] <jmadero> separate home folder helps ;)
[04:37] <kj4> jmadero: thanks, I didn't realize it was that simple to go from beta to release
[04:37] <tesla909> Yap clean is best... but lots of softwares....configurations....I'm bit lazy!
[04:37] <jmadero> tesla909: no configuration if you have a separate home partition
[04:37] <jmadero> and a simple install script
[04:37] <jmadero> I literally run a single command to install everything - configurations are held because of separate home partition
[04:38] <tesla909> Unfortunately I've only 1 partition... root+home
[04:38] <jmadero> ah, you might want to rethink that strategy ;)
[04:38] <tesla909> Yap I should
[04:38] <jmadero> I have my root, home, data, and then of course swap
[04:38] <jmadero> home is just configurations
[04:38] <tesla909> Sounds good idea.
[04:38] <Hyd> Can someone link me a way to get an SHH tunnel set up? Can't seem to get it right. Destination should be the server IP and source port should just be anything?
[04:39] <jmadero> Hyd: probably need to give more info than that
[04:39] <tesla909> So how it works after installation fresh? I mean how all those software will be installed?
[04:39] <kj4> Hyd win to lin or?
[04:39] <jmadero> tesla909: what do you mean?
[04:39] <jmadero> every time I download new software I add it to the script
[04:40] <jmadero> so the next time I fresh install (which I do all the time) I just run the same script
[04:40] <tesla909> If I have sepeate perition for home and root... I will format root and try a fresh installation there. After that how can I get all the softwares which were in previous release? Do i need to install manually one by one?
[04:41] <tesla909> Oh you have your own custom script!
[04:42] <jmadero> tesla909: yes I have my custom script
[04:42] <jmadero> you could probably get a list of installed packages
[04:42] <jmadero> and just make your own script easy enough
[04:42] <kj4> jmadero: 15.04 utilizes systemd, right?
[04:42] <tesla909> unfortunately I don't have.... How can I get a list of package?
[04:42] <jmadero> tesla909: sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[04:43] <jmadero> kj4: no
[04:43] <jmadero> oh yes it does
[04:43] <jmadero> thought it wasn't going to - but apparently it has
[04:43] <kj4> jmadero: whwew.... ok
[04:44] <tesla909> Thanks... Great.
[04:44] <kj4> jmadero: that's probably the factor that has me coming back to ubunt
[04:44] <jmadero> I don't even know what it is
[04:44] <jmadero> I use Ubuntu but heavily modified
[04:44] <jmadero> including my 5 DE's ;)
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> 15.04 talk in #ubuntu+1 please
[04:44] <kj4> jmadero: nice, what's your fave DE?
[04:44] <jmadero> god the strictness of this room compared to almost any other room is hilarious
[04:44] <kj4> lotuspsychje: o7
[04:45] <jmadero> kj4: DE talk #ubuntu-DE-talk-off-topic
[04:45] <jmadero> :-b
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> jmadero: no reason to be ironic on this
[04:45] <aeon-ltd> jmadero: popular rooms have to be managed more
[04:45] <jmadero> the room is dead right now
[04:45] <jmadero> anyways
[04:45] <kj4> lol.  jmadero; no biggie, I understand why- there are tons of ubuntu* channels for a reason
[04:46] <jmadero> kj4: Enlightenment is my favorite
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> jmadero: stop the offtopic please
[04:46] <kj4> kj4: i keep coming back to xfce
[04:46] <Artemis3> jmadero, its technical issues only, no exceptions
[04:46] <jmadero> then I need help with samba
[04:46] <jmadero> please
[04:47] <jmadero> mount error: could not resolve address for 192.168.1.66:share: Unknown error
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !samba | jmadero
[04:47] <jmadero> this room is useless
[04:55] <MagicMystic> !shit
[04:56] <petrvs> MagicMystic: not sure that's a legitimate bot command
[04:56] <MagicMystic> petrvs: apparently not :P
[04:59] <farbod> hi every body
[04:59] <petrvs> hi far
[04:59] <farbod> when 15.04 realse?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> farbod: today
[04:59] <farbod> nice ;)
[05:00] <farbod> do you know what time?
[05:00] <Hyd> Irc client froze up, Having issues with SSH Tunnels going to my ubuntu server from my windows computer. Using Kitty client if that matters The way I read it was that you want to set the destination to the ip of the server and that the Port doesn't really matter assuming you put it in the higher end. But after I set it up it seems like my traffic isn't being routed through the system any help would be appreciated
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> farbod: no, its best you idle here and wait topic to change
[05:00] <farbod> Thank you ;)
[05:00] <farbod> we love you Gnu/Linux
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Hyd: you could install fail2ban, perhaps someone is hammering your ssh
[05:02] <Hyd> I just got it set up today do you think that would be an issue?
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Hyd: not sure whats your cause exactly, youll have to investigate more
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Hyd: fail2ban, check your syslog and dmesg,etc
[05:12] <cluelessperson> I'm trying to setup this application called pydio on my ubuntus erver
[05:13] <cluelessperson> but I keep getting an error
[05:13] <cluelessperson> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tvz3s4r2j0mzojo/Screenshot%202015-04-23%2000.03.56.png?dl=0
[05:13] <cluelessperson> I can't seem to find why this is occurring
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !info pydio
[05:17] <_pingu> mp3splt install error: followed these instructions http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/debian_downloads.php?version=Trusty&ubuntu=true but got: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e0c52b15bd511bd8a951
[05:17] <drose379> Hey guys, found a random KB shortcut <fn> + <4> that puts my laptop into suspend
[05:17] <drose379> The shortcut isnt listed in the KB shortcuts menu items and "Suspend" isnt even listed
[05:17] <drose379> Why would this be?
[05:17] <Bigfreedom> doesn't work for my desktop
[05:18] <drose379> Why would a shortcut not be listed in the KB shortcuts section
[05:18] <Bigfreedom> because it aint handled by system settings
[05:19] <drose379> Whats it handled by
[05:19] <Bigfreedom> dont know
[05:19] <drose379> Ok
[05:19] <drose379> Thanks
[05:19] <Bigfreedom> similarly, gimp shortcuts arent handled by normal system settings software
[05:20] <Bigfreedom> and are therefore not listed under system settings keyboard shortcuts
[05:20] <drose379> Got it
[05:22] <drose379> What else would have a shortcut to put the computer into suspend
[05:29] <newguy123> hey doggies
[05:31] <_pingu> mp3splt install error: followed these instructions http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/debian_downloads.php?version=Trusty&ubuntu=true but got: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e0c52b15bd511bd8a951
[05:32] <Ullarah> So, 15.04 tomorrow? :P
[05:33] <codemagician> Ullarah: What time with it be available?
[05:33] <codemagician> *will it be
[05:33] <MonkeyDust> depends on the timezone you're in
[05:33] <codemagician> I'm in Asia Bangkok
[05:33] <codemagician> UTC+7
[05:34] <codemagician> ICT – Indochina Time (Standard Time)
[05:34] <newguy123> i am a silly goose
[05:35] <codemagician> MonkeyDust: What time does it usually become available from?
[05:35] <somsip> codemagician: it varies, but it is often *around* early afternoon EST
[05:36] <codemagician> That would be around midnight for me
[05:36] <codemagician> :(
[05:37] <codemagician> Do the main ubuntu.com website pages change at that time too?
[05:37] <gingermouse> yes
[05:37] <Quakron> THat whole screen of "last login was at ... kernel version ... welcome to ..." that you get when you start your login session in bash or wahtever other shell, where do you change that?
[05:37] <Quakron> I assume it's just some shell script that outputs that some-where/
[05:37] <somsip> codemagician: when it's released, the mirrors are taken down for a short time, then when they come up propogation starts
[05:38] <codemagician> Do you think it's best to get it using bittorrent?
[05:38] <gingermouse> Quakron: That's just the MOTD (Message of the Day; like the one on IRC). Here's a page that talks about it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/385072/how-set-the-message-of-the-day-motd-as-ubuntu-server
[05:39] <somsip> codemagician: *I* think it's best to stick to LTS. Use whatever method is easiest for you.
[05:39] <codemagician> somsip: Unfortunately wont run on my hardware
[05:40] <Quakron> gingermouse, ah ytes, thank you
[05:40] <Quakron> I hav eit now
[05:40] <somsip> codemagician: So someone else's best is not the same as your best. Anyway, just gran what you need when you can. But you will have to wait until it is released
[05:40] <somsip> *grab
[05:41] <codemagician> somsip: I bought a NUC5i5RYH without doing my homework first, so now I need a newer kernel than 3.16 in 14.04.2 LTS
[05:42] <codemagician> somsip: My plan is to live with 15.04 as a stepping stone to either 14.04.3 or 16
[05:44] <newguy123> ubuntu: great OS, or the greatest OS?
[05:45] <newguy123_> hey doggies
[05:45] <somsip> newguy123: please ask questions like that in #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is for support
[05:45] <gingermouse> hi
[05:45] <rockstar_> I'm having issue for a few days now. Why can't I ping/browse any google websites?
[05:45] <newguy123> gingermouse: how are you today good sir
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> rockstar_: wifi or network card chipset?
[05:51] <rockstar_> lotuspsychje: it works now, it has been happening frequently. it was wifi.
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> rockstar_: on what wifi chipset?
[05:52] <c_smith> soooo.... is there any working messaging indicator that works with Mate?
[05:52] <newguy123_> if anyone on here has a problem, yo i'll solve it right now
[05:53] <_pingu> mp3splt install error: followed these instructions http://mp3splt.sourceforge.net/mp3splt_page/debian_downloads.php?version=Trusty&ubuntu=true but got: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/278d3c04404b97bb631c
[05:53] <rockstar_> lotuspsychje: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor
[05:54] <newguy123> _pingu: can you set your LANG to english and paste again
[05:54] <newguy123> i dont speakazie deutschesie
[05:55] <c_smith> newguy123, he's speaking English, dude...
[05:56] <somsip> c_smith: see the gist paste
[05:56] <newguy123> c_smith: i just got finished a huge problem right now, you got a problem for me to solve?
[05:57] <c_smith> newguy123, only if either A. you have a psychology degree or B. you know if there's a way to install indicator-messages-gtk2 in 15.04 XD
[05:57] <c_smith> in other words, nope
[05:59] <_pingu> newguy123 fired export LANG="en_US.UTF-8" and did the commands again, but that does not change it's language
[05:59] <newguy123> hrmm
[06:00] <c_smith> _pingu, don't you have to export it then restart the terminal? been a while since I've done something like that, so forgive me if I'm wrong (it's entirely possible I'm mixing that up with changing the .bashrc file)
[06:01] <newguy123> _pingu: try LANG=C
[06:01] <jj995> what is a good old cheap laptop to buy on ebay to install ubuntu for ssh and basic browsing?  I'm thinking an IBM T40.  any other classic models?
[06:02] <MonkeyDust> !ot| jj995
[06:02] <_pingu> newguy123 works. one moment, please
[06:04] <_pingu> newguy123 https://gist.github.com/anonymous/43dc960706fd26663340
[06:05] <_pingu> newguy123 look at line 18+
[06:07] <somsip> _pingu: try clearing the cache and doing a forced install of libxerces2-java
[06:08] <jasabella> anyone familiar with ntfsclone? :)
[06:12] <_pingu> somsip: that worked. thanks! and thanks to newguy123, too. :-)
[06:12] <somsip> _pingu: good news :)
[06:30] <ANJ7> hey anyone who believes in God can join me at ##Godhelps
[06:34] <auzty> anyone know why i cant access my mounted device after changing my uid?
[06:35] <cogitation> Hello room
[06:35] <cogitation> I'm trying to mount one of my ntfs windows hard drives and it won't mount, anyone able to help?
[06:36] <cogitation> I tried to reboot into windows 7 which is installed on the drive and the disk potentially has failed.  I need to at least backup what I can, if possible.
[06:38] <cfhowlett> cogitation, boot a live ubuntu usb.  backup your data
[06:39] <cogitation> I don't have one, and I don't know where my usb stick big enough to hold ubuntu would be... any option within ubuntu itself?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> cogitation, for the record, disk failure = stop using the disk completely until you have completed your bckup
[06:39] <cogitation> Understood....other than trying to boot into windows, I havent' used it.  Been using ubuntu since
[06:39] <cfhowlett> cogitation, if it's a disk failure, every EVERY read/write action brings you closer to unannounced catastrophic failure
[06:40] <cogitation> do you mean even on a separate hard drive, with ubuntu installed?
[06:40] <cogitation> and the non-functioning drive not mounted?
[06:40] <cogitation> (in fact, it won't mount)
[06:41] <cfhowlett> cogitation, separate HDD or USB, but you should leave the suspect HDD alone starting immediately
[06:42] <cogitation> Understood.
[06:43] <cogitation> can I do anything from within installed ubuntu?
[06:43] <cogitation> I mean, it's a separate drive.  I just want to back it up direction.
[06:43] <cogitation> directly* rather
[06:43] <cfhowlett> cogitation, if you can mount the suspect HDD, yes
[06:43] <cogitation> Okay.  It won't mount though.
[06:43] <cfhowlett> cogitation, error messages?
[06:44] <cogitation> well, when I click on the drive in the list of drives, it says:  "Failed to mount WDC <serial number"
[06:45] <cogitation> <serial number>
[06:45] <cogitation> thanks for your help.
[06:45] <cfhowlett> cogitation, not familiar with that one.  ask again in channel.  best of luck.
[06:45] <cogitation> Okay.
[06:45] <cogitation> can someone help me back up a failing/failed ntfs hard drive?
[06:57] <BSz|away> morning
[06:57] <BarnaSzalai> which one channel is where everyone wait the final release of 15.04?
[06:58] <DJones> !party | BarnaSzalai
[06:58] <BarnaSzalai> thank you DJones
[07:00] <nextbox> What does it mean to check the checksum when downloading a file from the web?
[07:00] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | nextbox, bad downloads happen.
[07:01] <nextbox> Thanks=)
[07:10] <sopparus> is 15.04 out yet?
[07:11] <murcha> there are processes with D status prompted by htop. Should i delete them?
[07:12] <steve> 15.04 is out today, right? what time? :)
[07:12] <Ben64> !party | steve
[07:12] <steve> thanks
[07:14] <steve> Ben64: do you know what time it is released?
[07:14] <kristhia1> hello
[07:14] <Ben64> steve: approximately 1 minute after it is released
[07:16] <steve> Ben64: thanks!
[07:17] <kris> is there a gui vpn for ubuntu?
[07:19] <somsip> !info vpnc-gui | kris
[07:20] <kris> !info vpn-gui
[07:20] <somsip> kris: ah - more limited than I thought http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/01/vpnc-gui-tool-connect-to-cisco-vpn-ubuntu/
[07:22] <somsip> !info network-manager-vpnc | kris (maybe better - no idea myself I use cli)
[07:22] <somsip> kris: though that might be Cisco only too. So I give up
[07:22] <reisei> hi, all! I have I strange issue with my ubuntu 12.04 desktop: It hangs on boot on the "Starting configure network device"... Any suggestions how can I fix it?
[07:23] <kris> ill just try to explore and thanks for the help somsip
[07:23] <somsip> reisei: make sure it is using the right settings for the network device
[07:34] <reisei> somsip: I just did the upgrade of some packages, I didn't change the network configuration (
[07:42] <BobbyJenkins> I personally know I will receive biased responses on this question, but do you think it is worth it to upgrade from Ubuntu 14.04 to 15.04?
[07:42] <cfhowlett> BobbyJenkins, so why even waste time/resources asking???  your box, your choice.
[07:43] <Artemis3> BobbyJenkins, no.
[07:43] <DJones> BobbyJenkins: 14.04 is LTS, so you get the benefit of not needing to upgrade every 6 months, if you did want to go to 15.04, you'd have to upgrade to 14.10 first, then 15.04, or do a fresh install
[07:44] <BobbyJenkins> I am not exactly wasting time or resources asking the question, I just want to hear different opinions, it is healthy to leave the normalities once in a while :)
[07:58] <OerHeks> Can somebody help me ? because some key is missing, we wait 5 days for Firefox 37.0.2 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203615172/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-arm64.firefox_37.0.2%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu0.14.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[08:19] <kilberh> Hola
[08:19] <kilberh> Holaa
[08:30] <cem_> hello guys , i downloaded Ubuntu Mate 15.04 dailybuild of April 22 , in 23 ubuntu will be released and should i install it again with 23 version ?
[08:31] <amari> cem_: Just update and you will have the final already
[08:31] <cem_> so its okey
[08:31] <cfhowlett> cem_, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:31] <cem_> thank you
[08:32] <cuihao> Hey, what's the exact time to release 14.10? Already 23 Apr here :)
[08:32] <kilberh> Hi
[08:32] <cfhowlett> cuihao, "when it's done"
[08:32] <cuihao> :o
[08:32] <amari> cuihao: It was already released (14.10 :) ). I think they will release 15.04 ASAP, i.e. when it's ready
[08:32] <cuihao> ooo, typo
[08:32] <amari> cuihao: A considerable one :D
[08:33] <cem_> :D
[08:36] <cem_> what do you think about Ubuntu 15.04 ? is is good to use ? how many years it will be supported ?
[08:36] <cfhowlett> cem_, 9 months support
[08:38] <k1l> cem_: you need to upgrade every 6 months until you reach the next LTS (16.04) that got 5 years support then
[08:38] <geirha> Regular releases have 9 month support. LTS releases have 5 year support. Next LTS will be 16.04 (april 2016)
[08:38] <ChunkzZ> what time is 15.04 out? GMT?
[08:38] <k1l> !party
[08:38] <cfhowlett> ChunkzZ, 2339
[08:39] <ChunkzZ> ?
[08:39] <k1l> ChunkzZ: plan with afternoon.
[08:39] <cfhowlett> ChunkzZ, it will be released - today - when it's ready - we release no distro before its time
[08:42] <rahulprodev> Hello everyone, :) haven't installed ubuntu on my laptop, waiting from 3 days. when will ubuntu 15.04 going to release?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> ChunkzZ, it will be released - today - when it's ready - we release no distro before its time
[08:42] <cfhowlett> rahulprodev, see above
[08:42] <ChunkzZ> yes, I saW.
[08:43] <cfhowlett> ChunkzZ, sorry for the double :)
[08:43] <mantys89> is there any good cli password manager for ubuntu?
[08:43] <rahulprodev> cfhowlett, thanks, I think I need to wait!!! :) :) :)
[08:44] <mehdip2007> is there limitation to add repository or not?
[08:44] <cfhowlett> rahulprodev, see !isitout
[08:44] <codemagician> push that release button dude.  I've got a brick here that wont run with it :)
[08:44] <Edu-J> Hi all! Is it possible to avoid minimized windows when switching with ATL+TAB?
[08:44] <rahulprodev> !isitout
[08:44] <mantys89> no limitation, but i like privacy and security :D
[08:45] <chotaz`w> WHO's EXCITED? I'm excited!
[08:45] <rahulprodev> me too
[08:45] <ChunkzZ> yeah same here chotaz`w
[08:46] <k1l> mehdip2007: no.
[08:46] <codemagician> *without
[08:46] <k1l> if you want to be the first to know its releases, join #ubuntu-release-party
[08:47] <ChunkzZ> thanks k1l
[08:47] <mehdip2007> k1l, becuz sometimes i get the error check the PPA name is correct
[08:47] <rahulprodev> thanks k1l
[08:47] <k1l> mehdip2007: if you add wrong repos/ppas its of course an error.
[08:48] <mehdip2007> k1l, bu once i enter the samething it says to process press enter or ctrl+c to cancel
[08:48] <k1l> mehdip2007: please pastebin the errors and the repos you entered
[08:50] <mehdip2007> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870215/
[08:52] <k1l> mehdip2007: maybe the internet was down at that time and it could not look up the ppa name
[08:54] <mehdip2007> well i am downloading something maybe notsure
[08:57] <t4nk509> Hi all. IS anyone here very familiar with kvm/qemu/ovmf/win8/vga-passthru?
[08:59] <Rene_> not me :D
[09:00] <t4nk509> I'm stuck building ovmf that saves settings on reboot.
[09:01] <tdn> I have a bunch of shellscripts and python programs that I maintain in subversion and use on various systems. I would like a central way of distributing these. What would you recommend? Make /usr/local/bin an SVN working copy? Or make a debian package to distribute them?
[09:02] <WoLFMaN> hello
[09:02] <Rene_> hello, so many intresting questions i feel like a noob, -hands the waiting questioners a hot cup of coffee-
[09:03] <Rene_> thats all i can do :D
[09:03] <WoLFMaN> i am having some problems running ubuntu on my mac can anyone help
[09:03] <Rene_> it's not installing at all ?
[09:03] <zzarr> Vivid :D
[09:03] <cfhowlett> !mac | WoLFMaN
[09:04] <WoLFMaN> I have it installed i am running it now
[09:05] <WoLFMaN> the last 2 updates stopped it working i have to select advanced and run the first version i installed
[09:05] <zzarr> I have an nVidia graphics card in my machine, will mir work with the driver? (does it matter what hw I have)
[09:05] <OerHeks> zzarr, current / next ubuntu does not have MIR.
[09:06] <k1l> zzarr: 15.04 will not have mir as default
[09:07] <Luyin> WoLFMaN: where did you select "advanced"?
[09:07] <zzarr> too bad, will I be able to install it in an easy way?
[09:07] <bojan> Can anyone guide me how to set authentication for NFS??
[09:08] <bojan> I have configured NFS and it is working fine..BUt whoever are trying to mount the shaing point from my server are accessing the shared directories...I want to set authentication for that
[09:09] <k1l> zzarr: you can test it with the desktop next isos
[09:09] <zzarr> okey
[09:10] <zzarr> bojan: you can limit what ip address a nfs share is available from
[09:10] <zzarr> (in the export file, /etc/export)
[09:12] <mantys89> Some settings for disabling unity scopes and lences, for better privacy on ubuntu... :) http://pastebin.com/P6GckjFQ
[09:12] <WoLFMaN> i have a boot menu that has unbuntu-ubuntu (advanced)-mac 32bit
[09:13] <WoLFMaN> mac 64bit
[09:13] <auzty> why i cant' access my /media/auzty after changing my uid?
[09:13] <auzty> it' says permissiond enied
[09:13] <cfhowlett> auzty, changed the UID?  must remount
[09:13] <Rene_> mantys is that for 14.04 ?
[09:13] <mantys89> yes
[09:14] <Rene_> i will safe it for future updates , as im in 12.04 im suposing my data is not send anywhere to canonical in 12.04 not ?
[09:14] <OerHeks> mantys89, thy an other script, as privacy rules are already in systemsettings>privacy ?
[09:14] <OerHeks> thy-why*
[09:15] <auzty> remount what cfhowlett ? before i change the UID & GID , i can ls to /media/auzty , but after i change it, i didn't have any permission, my permission is right but i dont know why rejected
[09:15] <auzty> drwx------   1 auzty auzty 32768 Apr 23 14:52 Data
[09:15] <mantys89> I disable all scopes and lences except applications and home...
[09:15] <cfhowlett> auzty, a new UID should be read as new media ... as I understand it.  I could be wrong, though.
[09:16] <codemagician> !isitout
[09:16] <Ben64> auzty: ls -ld /media/auzty
[09:16] <mantys89> OerHeks: there are just few settings, not all...
[09:16] <cfhowlett> ubottu with attitude.  perfect.
[09:16] <codemagician> Annoying
[09:16] <Rene_> lol
[09:16] <bojan> zzarr:For example if a guest are coming to my office and they want to access my NFS share folder...How to set permission for them to access only readonly for some users and permission for using for some users??
[09:16] <codemagician> Yeah you did say it was out on 23rd
[09:16] <codemagician> And on the wiki says 29th
[09:17] <k1l> codemagician: please join #ubuntu-release-party for that
[09:17] <cfhowlett> codemagician, chillax.  it's out when it's out.
[09:17] <bojan> zzarr:I want to authenticate using username and password
[09:17] <auzty> thanks Ben64, i can LS it with ls -ld, but why that happened?
[09:17] <bojan> zzarr:Is there any way??
[09:18] <Ben64> auzty: paste the result of that command
[09:18] <auzty> drwx------   1 auzty auzty 32768 Apr 23 14:52 Data
[09:18] <auzty> sorry wrong paste
[09:18] <zzarr> bojan: I don't think so, but I'll google it
[09:18] <bojan> zzarr:please tell
[09:18] <auzty> drwxr-x---+ 3 root root 4096 Apr 23 16:15 /media/auzty/
[09:18] <codemagician> cfhowlett: I'm not using 15.04 for some party, I'm using it because 14.04.2 LTS wont run on the NUC5i5RYH
[09:18] <Ben64> auzty: doesn't look proper
[09:19] <codemagician> So I've been watching this useless brick on my desk for 1 week
[09:19] <k1l> codemagician: please keep this channel here clear for support. the release will be announced in the party channel.
[09:19] <Ben64> codemagician: the party counts down to release time, its not on topic here until it releases
[09:19] <codemagician> ok
[09:19] <mantys89> bojan: you need change permisions to 755 >>  sudo chmod -R 755 /media/auzty
[09:20] <bojan> mantys89:thats not for me
[09:20] <zzarr> I guess you should use LDAP or Kerberos
[09:20] <mantys89> bojan: why ?
[09:20] <bojan> mantys89:because i dont ask that question
[09:21] <mantys89> sorry..., my mistake... :D
[09:21] <Ben64> auzty: please pastebin the output of "getfacl /media/auzty"
[09:21] <bojan> zzarr:i am using LTSP here...IS it possible to authenticate using LDAP or kerberos...Then what do you think about NIS??
[09:21] <zzarr> bojan: with the help of LDAP or Kerberos you can authenticate NFS (and many other services as well)
[09:22] <zzarr> bojan: it's possible with NIS/NIs+ too
[09:22] <mantys89> auzty: you need change permisions to 755 >>  sudo chmod -R 755 /media/auzty
[09:22] <zzarr> bojan: it's just a matter of configuration
[09:23] <auzty> http://pastebin.com/SfT8BBwm Ben64
[09:23] <bojan> zzarr:Yes i want that
[09:23] <bojan> zzarr:i want help to configure that
[09:23] <arunpyasi> guys, I am having problem with resizing my ntfs partition
[09:23] <auzty> this is weird, my new UID is 1001
[09:23] <arunpyasi> please help
[09:23] <zzarr> bojan: I have never configured NIS/NIS+
[09:23] <k1l> auzty: chown the mounting path to your user?
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !details | arunpyasi
[09:23] <Ben64> auzty: why did you change uid anyway
[09:24] <WoLFMaN> mac 64bit!pastebin
[09:24] <WoLFMaN> !pastebin
[09:24] <mantys89> auzty: you can read, write, execute, group/others read and excecute...
[09:24] <zzarr> bojan: look at this http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/nfs-and-nis-security
[09:24] <auzty> actually i need my production app to run to the specific uid, so i change the UID according to the app uid :D
[09:24] <Ben64> auzty: use setfacl to change the 1000 to 1001
[09:25] <arunpyasi> I am trying to shrink my ntfs parition but I cannot shrink it. Its not dragging. and I get a warning icon on the partition, when I double clicked it, it says "Unable to read the contents of this file system!
[09:25] <arunpyasi> Because of this some operations may be unavailable.
[09:25] <arunpyasi> The cause might be a missing software package.
[09:25] <arunpyasi> The following list of software packages is required for ntfs file system support:  ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g."
[09:25] <auzty> thanks for advice mantys89 and k1l :)
[09:25] <Ben64> auzty: that makes no sense, but whatever makes you feel happy :)
[09:25] <zzarr> it's lunch time for me bbl
[09:25] <arunpyasi> hualet: hey buddy
[09:26] <auzty> thanks you very much Ben64 , actually i never hear that, setfacl :(
[09:26] <arunpyasi> And now, I don't have an option to resize, its disabled.
[09:26] <bojan> zzarr:can u pls share a best configuration material for nis??
[09:28] <k1l> arunpyasi: make sure ntfsprogs is installed
[09:29] <arunpyasi> k1l: it says E: Package 'ntfsprogs' has no installation candidate
[09:29] <k1l> arunpyasi: please show a "sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy ntfsprogs"
[09:30] <k1l> arunpyasi: ah wait, try the ntfs-3g package
[09:30] <arunpyasi> k1l: yeah, its installed.
[09:32] <arunpyasi> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870329/
[09:34] <arunpyasi> k1l: http://picpaste.com/DeepinScreenshot20150423151834-EQ92GpcE.png
[09:34] <cfhowlett> arunpyasi, you have deepin?
[09:34] <arunpyasi> cfhowlett: yeah
[09:35] <cfhowlett> arunpyasi, sorry, but deepin aint' ubuntu and is not supported here.  see deepin support
[09:35] <arunpyasi> cfhowlett: ? u mean ?
[09:35] <Hempathy> Hi guys, I'm looking for help with a black screen on boot, think I messed up encryption upgrading, would appreciate any help
[09:35] <cfhowlett> arunpyasi, look in your "help" menu for help from deepin.  this is ubuntu.
[09:35] <arunpyasi> cfhowlett: I think it doesn't matter whether deepin or ubuntu, cause its core system is ubuntu.
[09:36] <k1l> arunpyasi: no. please see deepin support. we dont know what they changed. since it works on ubuntu
[09:36] <cfhowlett> arunpyasi, it does matter.   this channel supports ubuntu.  deepin isn't ubuntu
[09:36] <cfhowlett> !flavors | k1l
[09:36] <tijnix> *gets popcorn*
[09:36] <penos> !ubuntu
[09:36] <penos> !hurd
[09:37] <penos> !hurd !linux
[09:38] <Saviq> happy release day! :)
[09:39] <ecenk> happy release day :)
[09:39] <Hempathy> Gotta love it eh!
[09:39] <Hempathy> It's like a geek xmas every 6 months
[09:40] <amrX2K> .
[09:41] <penos> !release
[09:43] <penos> !penos
[09:44] <penos> u dun naw meee?
[09:44] <k1l> penos: enough now
[09:44] <penos> okk..
[09:44] <cfhowlett> penos, please.  stop.  to send private ubottu: /msg ubottu !command
[09:51] <pi2> ^TIL
[09:54] <hamdroid> i am using vim on a windows computer via ssh. how do i save/exit ?
[09:55] <Rory> :wq
[09:55] <zmurfje> :wq
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[09:55] <Rory> More questions need to be like that one
[09:55] <zmurfje> Probably escape first
[09:58] <hamdroid> ty
[09:59] <hamdroid> file got saved as .swp
[09:59] <hamdroid> when i try to open via vim it shows as new file..
[10:01] <zmurfje> vi  <path-filename>
[10:01] <zmurfje> then save
[10:05] <Z3_> Hi ! Can you install ubuntu on intel compute stick (windows version)? That's because the hardware of windows version has more RAM and internal storage
[10:06] <daniele12457> do they have usb on the intel compute stick?
[10:07] <Z3_> yep
[10:07] <daniele12457> you can put ubuntu on a usb stick then boot from the usb stick
[10:07] <Z3_> so is just like a standar desktop pc
[10:07] <Z3_> standard
[10:07] <Z3_> I was worried there were some limitations for install new operating systems
[10:09] <daniele12457> dunno
[10:09] <daniele12457> never tried
[10:09] <daniele12457> i just assume
[10:09] <daniele12457> do you have the intel compute stick?
[10:10] <Z3_> I am thinking in purchase one
[10:10] <Z3_> but ubuntu version has only 1 GB RAM
[10:10] <Z3_> not enough for me, I need 2 GB
[10:10] <daniele12457> i'm pretty sure they will allow to do so
[10:11] <vooze> What time (I'm in Denmark GMT +2) will 15.04 be released?
[10:11] <Z3_> ok, thank you ! :)
[10:11] <codemagician> vooze: see #ubuntu-release-party
[10:12] <vooze> codemagician, thanks, Is it just a random time today?
[10:13] <penos> in 14.04 the repository don't have sccummvm
[10:13] <penos> in the earlier versions they had it :(
[10:14] <penos> in the past i played beneath the steel sky
[10:17] <codemagician> vooze: apparently
[10:18] <codemagician> vooze: I did hear the servers get overloaded so it may be best to use a torrent
[10:24] <geirha> !info scummvm
[10:24] <geirha> penos: perhaps you just haven't enabled universe?
[10:24] <OerHeks> geirha +1
[10:28] <penos> geirha, ohh good
[10:28] <penos> geirha, ill try that <3
[10:28] <OerHeks> Can somebody help me ? because some key is missing, we wait 5 days for Firefox 37.0.2 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203615172/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-arm64.firefox_37.0.2%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu0.14.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[10:29] <PCatinean> I have for some reason some slim and small font all over ubuntu and I have no idea why, how can I go back to the default of the installation?
[10:30] <penos> is there an IDE like microsoft visual studio on linux?
[10:30] <OerHeks> penos, not Vistual studio, but there are a lot of IDE's
[10:30] <jpds> penos: Eclipse.
[10:30] <OerHeks> !ide
[10:30] <OerHeks> !editor
[10:31] <k1l> PCatinean: use unity-tweak-tool to set the proper fonts settings
[10:31] <penos> eclipse is decent
[10:31] <chotaz`w> On my work computer I have 2 partitions./boot is on a small, 250MiB partition while everything else is ina  luks encrypted partition. My sysadm is not around and I need to create space on /boot to make sure I can make the upgrade later on. How do I go about cleaning /boot?
[10:31] <Luyin> also there is sublime
[10:31] <k1l> chotaz`w: remove old kernel-packages
[10:32] <pi2> !code
[10:32] <chotaz`w> k1l, I don't feel experienced enough to tackle this in the safest way, can you provide some tips, please?
[10:32] <k1l> chotaz`w: dont delete stuff in /boot manually!
[10:33] <PCatinean> k1l, it shows them as default
[10:33] <k1l> chotaz`w: list all installed linux-image* packages. "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" in a pastebin
[10:35] <chotaz`w> k1l, sure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10870537/
[10:37] <k1l> chotaz`w: "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.16.0-23-generic linux-image-3.16.0-33-generic"  after that do a "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[10:38] <chotaz`w> k1l, care to explain why I'm keeping specific builds behind, that are not currentl in use? even between those 2 you suggested to remove
[10:39] <chotaz`w> those buings "builds"(?) 31 and 34
[10:40] <geirha> 31 is not installed
[10:40] <k1l> chotaz`w: ii is installed
[10:40] <thms> I have an exact clone of my debian system
[10:40] <thms> what do I do first, (ho k1l hi)
[10:40] <chotaz`w> I just want to make sure I understand the procedure so I can redo it in the future
[10:41] <k1l> thms: ask #debian :)
[10:41] <thms> xarg -a apt-get install and then rescue mode to rsync -avPH
[10:41] <chotaz`w> thanks for the tip, I've ran both commands
[10:41] <thms> ubuntu I meant
[10:41] <thms> 14.04
[10:41] <k1l> thms: come on :/
[10:41] <thms> or reverse
[10:41] <thms> I guess reverse.
[10:42] <k1l> chotaz`w: usually ubuntu should have removed the old kernels. you only need 2 actual kernels. the older one is used for booting into recovery. so like something is bad with the new kenrel you can still boot into recovery with a working one.
[10:43] <codemagician> Is there a fixed date for 14.04.3 LTS and if so what kernel version will it upgrade to?
[10:44] <k1l> codemagician: yes. see its release schedule
[10:44] <OerHeks> codemagician, it is all on the release page
[10:44] <OerHeks> not sure about the kernel, too far away i guess
[10:45] <k1l> codemagician: the kernel should be the 15.04 backports kernel.
[10:45] <codemagician> What's the offical release page?
[10:45] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[10:45] <pero> hi
[10:46] <PCatinean> This thread says to locate the xorg file http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1855689
[10:46] <chotaz`w> k1l, thanks a bunch for sharing the knowledge, so checking for (ii)nstalled ones, keeping a previous version for a possible recovery need ands off with the remaining ones, I hope this created enough room in /boot for the upgrade, orelse I'll have to go about learning how to resize an encrypted partition, which I already tried by running gparted, but the encrypted partition has a flag saying luks encrypted partitions are not yet supports, so I tried
[10:46] <chotaz`w> a more "manual" approach
[10:46] <PCatinean> I did but it specifically say to not edit directly
[10:46] <PCatinean> what do I do?
[10:47] <Rory> PCatinean: That thread's from 2011, are you sure the version is relevent?
[10:47] <codemagician> k1l: Thanks
[10:48] <PCatinean> Rory, I have ubuntu 14.04, what is the appropriate way of doing this in this version?
[10:48] <codemagician> Will it be possible to downgrade from 15.04 to 14.04.3 LTS?
[10:48] <mcphail> codemagician: no
[10:48] <Rory> PCatinean: You can edit the file, you should just make a copy of it first, so you can revert to the old version later if you need to
[10:48] <mcphail> codemagician: downgrades require a full reinstall
[10:48] <k1l> codemagician: no downgrades with ubuntu
[10:48] <PCatinean> Rory, so after each dist-upgrade I have to re-paste it??
[10:48] <codemagician> that's a shame
[10:48] <codemagician> I got unlucky timing with my hardware
[10:48] <Rory> PCatinean: I'm not sure what you're asking
[10:49] <Rory> PCatinean: Re-paste what? You only need to edit the file once, you should just make a backup of it first
[10:49] <PCatinean> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE, your distribution will likely overwrite
[10:49] <PCatinean> that's what it says
[10:49] <mcphail> codemagician: you can always install a newer kernel with an older release
[10:49] <codemagician> k1l, mcphail I'd liked to have stayed on the LTS line but I needed a later kernel for the Intel HD Graphics 6000 support
[10:49] <mcphail> !mainline | codemagician
[10:49] <Rory> PCatinean: "To make changes permanent I used instructions from this site " did you follow that link in the thread?
[10:49] <k1l> codemagician: you could use mainline kernels
[10:49] <codemagician> mcphail: problem I have is that I can't install 14.04.2 LTS as the GUI is broken
[10:50] <PCatinean> Rory, which one?
[10:50] <Rory> PCatinean: before I carry on can you summarise what you're trying to do?
[10:50] <codemagician> Unless I installed the 14.04 server edition and then the GUI manually
[10:50] <Rory> PCatinean: I don't want to give you incorrect advice
[10:50] <mcphail> codemagician: you can't fall beack to vesa graphics and install? Use "nomodeset" as a boot parameter?
[10:50] <Rory> PCatinean: If you edit /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf you will be fine
[10:50] <PCatinean> Rory, just keep my settings regrding the touchpad "AreaRightEdge, left edge etc"
[10:50] <amrX2K> .
[10:51] <codemagician> I tried the nomodeset and nothing seemed to happen.  (I did this using F-<something> which brought up the grub menu
[10:51] <PCatinean> Rory, I have no such file theere
[10:51] <codemagician> This was using the 15.04-beta-2
[10:51] <Rory> No, it would be a new file
[10:51] <codemagician> *sorry ignore last line
[10:51] <OerHeks> PCatinean, that file does not exist, it is in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf.
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:51] <PCatinean> OerHeks, yes but the message inside it says not to edit drectly
[10:52] <mcphail> codemagician: how broken is the gui?
[10:52] <PCatinean> If I create a new conf file there's a automated system that takes the conf?
[10:52] <codemagician> mcphail: unreadable
[10:52] <Rory> PCatinean: If there's an update to xorg through apt, I assume the config files might be overwritten?
[10:52] <OerHeks> PCatinean, " Users can copy this file to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and edit it to configure the various driver options available." from the arch wiki, works for ubuntu too >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics
[10:52] <Rory> PCatinean: That is probably what it means
[10:53] <PCatinean> So I just copy it, name it with 10, add the sections and should work?
[10:53] <mcphail> codemagician: installing from the server edition is fine anyway. No major problems when doing that, particularly as you're going to swap out th kernel
[10:54] <codemagician> mcphail: I felt like by changing out the kernel on 14.04.2 LTS kinda negates the positive reasons for me using it, since I do web development it's nice to have a matching system to my live server
[10:54] <codemagician> My current plan is stick with 15.04 until 14.04.3 LTS becomes available and then re-instanll
[10:55] <mcphail> codemagician: fair enough. Not sure if therre will be a further kernel version bump, though
[10:55] <codemagician> mcphail: Right, that's what I was wondering if that was predecided on the release pages
[10:55] <chotaz`w> k1l, went from 60MiB unused to 150MiB, hopw it's enough for the update :)
[10:56] <PCatinean> OerHeks, I have did that it says and placed /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d with settings, nothing happened
[10:56]  * mcphail can't remember if previous LTS releases had more than 1 kernel version bump
[10:56] <PCatinean> http://hastebin.com/ofegalebek.cmake
[10:57] <k1l> mcphail: there is the enablement stack since 12.04.2 (because of the samsung brick kernel bug htingy)
[10:57] <mcphail> k1l: aah
[10:58] <codemagician> I'm thinking that most of my web development work revolves around PHP and MySQL so I doubt there will be any major significant differences between web development stacks on 15 vs 14
[10:59] <amrX2K> How do I get vhost on freenode server ?
[10:59] <OerHeks> PCatinean, then restart xorg, or logout/login again
[10:59] <k1l> amrX2K: ask in #freenode
[10:59] <PCatinean> OerHeks, I've had that for weeks
[11:00] <PCatinean> still does not work
[11:00] <codemagician> I've had no experience of trying the latest releases vs a LTS release so I don't know how stable things are going to be
[11:00] <PCatinean> it's a symlink to /usr/share but still should work
[11:01] <codemagician> One thing that would be useful (and I'm not sure if this exists or not) would be a page with Ubuntu versions and the Intel Graphics version supported under that version
[11:01] <mcphail> codemagician: the only dreadfully unstable Ubuntu release was Edgy Eft
[11:01] <k1l> codemagician: for non-LTS you need to upgrade every 6 months
[11:01] <codemagician> If there a path from 15.04 to 16 LTS?
[11:02] <mcphail> codemagician: yes
[11:02] <k1l> codemagician: no
[11:02] <mcphail> codemagician: via 15.10
[11:02] <k1l> codemagician: only 15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04
[11:03] <codemagician> Does any cruft from 15.04 and 15.10 get left laying around the system
[11:03] <k1l> just the stuff you do yourself
[11:03] <mcphail> codemagician: not really, unless you've installed PPAs
[11:03] <codemagician> Would that include custom made PHP executable… would I have to recompile with the new kernel?
[11:04] <mcphail> codemagician: not unless the new kernel has come with a new major version of libc
[11:04] <jpds> codemagician: A PHP compile has nothing to do with the kernel.
[11:05] <mcphail> codemagician: if you keep your self-compiled binaries under /usr/local rather than /usr, they won't be touched by the distro
[11:06] <codemagician> jpds: I wondered if it would rely on shared object libraries which depend on the kernel
[11:06] <pero> bye
[11:07] <codemagician> mcphail: that's good as that's where I usually put them
[11:07] <mcphail> codemagician: the only
[11:08] <mcphail> codemagician: the only library you have to worry about is libc, and that rarely gets a major version bump
[11:08] <codemagician> I can't tell you how happy I am to be returning to Linux after many years of using a Mac
[11:09] <Rene_> welcome back ^.^
[11:10] <codemagician> :)
[11:11] <Rene_> i got a multi boot with win, but i try not to go there if possible, only for games i can;t get to run in Linux or run very poorly, which makes win have 2 games and linux 30+ :D
[11:11] <codemagician> I hated fiddling around trying to get things like xdebug installed for PHP
[11:12] <codemagician> I never quite got to grips with the brew installer vs the sudo apt-get install
[11:12] <Rene_> i have never used a mac
[11:13] <Rene_> all my pc's are self build
[11:16] <Rene_> For me as a gamer, it's great how more and more games on steam have Linux support, i dont buy any game anymore that doesn't have linux support, hopefully they keep on supporting future ubuntu versions, im wondering when stuff will break when its an older game in the future
[11:18] <codemagician> I wish I had time for games
[11:18] <Rene_> ^.^
[11:19] <codemagician> Rene_: The last game I played was populus 2
[11:19] <Rene_> i can try to do ur work for an hour and u can go play a game then :P
[11:19] <kdenewbie__> Hi! I have two questions, I use to scroll a lot on the desktop for switching between them (KDE here) but the srcoll is like too quick (just in this situation, in others like okular and so on is ok) and i cant find the way to set it slower
[11:19] <Rene_> haha lol
[11:19] <Rene_> @codemagician
[11:20] <codemagician> Rene_: And before that Chuckie Egg
[11:21] <Rene_> i play world of tanks most of the time with wine 1.7.4 csmt
[11:22] <Rene_> mm i cant find scrolling settings in mouse or compiz
[11:23] <Rene_> not sure where u need to set scroll speed
[11:23] <BornToFlyBert> Hello Everybody!
[11:23] <Rene_> hello
[11:24] <Rene_> in one article it says, a user removed an usb dongle and plugged in the mouse directly or other usb port and it fixed scroll issues
[11:24] <l9> have i gone compeletly numb or ??? mv file ../. shouldnt that move file one folder back ?
[11:25] <Rene_> maybe trying other usb ports might change something ?
[11:25] <Rene_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/255890/how-can-i-adjust-the-mouse-scroll-speed
[11:25] <BornToFlyBert> What is the topic in here if I may ask, i have got questions concering cups, if I am allowed to ask.
[11:26] <Rene_> i guess if its in ubuntu u can ask :D
[11:26] <EriC^^> l9: yeah, do you have write access one dir back?
[11:26] <l9> EriC^^: mmhm i have weird part is that it says the file aint there
[11:27] <BornToFlyBert> Is anybody familiar with CUPS and Lexmark printers/scanner multifunctional devices i mean?
[11:27] <TinSoldier> sup guys
[11:27] <Rene_> o/
[11:27] <Nickname1> hi
[11:27] <BornToFlyBert> hi
[11:27] <TinSoldier> does anyone know if the AMD bug still esists?
[11:27] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, what lexmark model exactly?
[11:27] <Rene_> amd bug cpu gpu ?.?
[11:28] <TinSoldier> gpu
[11:28] <Rene_> the unity color problem ?
[11:28] <l9> EriC^^: hehe whoops i have gone dumb :P haha long time no see btw
[11:28] <TinSoldier> uhmm
[11:28] <TinSoldier> maybe ^^
[11:28] <BornToFlyBert> @Oerheks: It is an lexmark x1180 printer/scanner.
[11:28] <TinSoldier> had to swap over to fedora
[11:28] <Rene_> aww
[11:29] <TinSoldier> think i should just go ahead and give it a try?
[11:29] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, it does not show up on http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Lexmark/
[11:30] <Rene_> u could try with an cd/dvd running without installing it i huess
[11:30] <Rene_> guess*
[11:30] <metric_chicken> hello, I could really uses some assistance. Im trying to install Linux Mint over PXE. I can get mint to mount on a client over the network but the installer fails. I've looked at /var/log/installer/debug and the first error is "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "overlay-scrollbar"
[11:30] <TinSoldier> or just test in in a VB
[11:30] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, found this old tutor, that uses the 600 driver > http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/Lexmark+driver+pack+for+ubuntu?content=98648
[11:30] <Rene_> i mean i would not trow a worjking os away, incase the bug is still there
[11:31] <Rene_> yeh
[11:31] <BornToFlyBert> OerHeks, it's on http://support.lexmark.com/index?locale=de&page=product&productCode=LEXMARK_X1180&segment=SUPPORT&userlocale=DE_DE&frompage=null#1
[11:31] <OerHeks> metric_chicken, mint issues ..
[11:31] <OerHeks> !mint
[11:31] <TinSoldier> aight thx
[11:31] <TinSoldier> i might be back soon ^^
[11:31] <Rene_> ^.^
[11:31] <Rene_> good luck
[11:31] <metric_chicken> Ive tried and there isnt anyone there
[11:31] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, i always check openprinting, to see if cups can handle it.
[11:31] <DazPetty> metric_chicken, installing over a network? that sounds pretty tricky
[11:31] <metric_chicken> im really just asking about the ubiquity installer
[11:31] <BornToFlyBert> OerHeks, i see, thank you for the advice
[11:32] <metric_chicken> DazPetty i figured out how to boot over the network
[11:32] <OerHeks> metric_chicken,  that makes asking here not valid.
[11:32] <metric_chicken> combo of using tftp and nfs
[11:32] <DazPetty> metric_chicken, how?
[11:32] <DazPetty> metric_chicken, if you don't mind me asking
 not a problem
[11:33] <Rene_> not sure if testing in a vm is good testing of a gpu/driver bug though , as normaly the vm doesnt see the propper 3d card as that is emulated
[11:33] <BornToFlyBert> OerHeks, what shall i do if i cannot find it on openprinting, does it necessarily mean, that it won't work with ubuntu?
[11:33] <aceruser> hi guys i have a huge problem I bought the Acer Aspire E 11 and it has an eMMC. gparted is stuck on Scanning all devices and I cannot instal Ubuntu
[11:34] <Rene_> :'(
[11:34] <kdenewbie__> another question, i enabled kde beta ppa for getting kde 5.3 and now i don't know if i should disable that ppa
[11:34] <l9> anyone has a easy way too test if dir has *.mkv and if not rm -rf
[11:34] <DazPetty> kdenewbie_ there is a program called ppa-purge
[11:34] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, openprinting does not support this model, only with the 600 driver, it is just a hack/workaround.
[11:35] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, oh that url ends up 404...
[11:35] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i know its an older version 13.04 (and im trying to upgrade) but im backing my stuff up first. The problem is, ive put the usb hd into the laptop, its picked it up but it wont let me paste, or make new folders, read only maybe?
[11:35] <BornToFlyBert> OerHeks, i see, so what can i do?
[11:36] <kdenewbie__> DazPetty: but it deletes the packages installed from the given ppa ?
[11:36] <OerHeks> BornToFlyBert, nothing i guess, i am looking for an other way ..
[11:37] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[11:37] <OerHeks> it reverts back to the original packages
 yes maybe its mounted read only or your user has no permissions to acces it and its mounted as root
[11:37] <BornToFlyBert> OerHeks, I find it quite interessesting, because the printjob appears in the printing queue and then it disappears without printing anything ...
[11:38] <DazPetty> kdenewbie_ it tries to downgrade it, it is usually safe to remove it, what do you want to do? downgrade it or just remove it for something else like xfce?
[11:40] <kdenewbie__> DazPetty: actually i want to keep the version i have right now but i don't know if it's sure having the kde beta ppa just in case it breaks something now
[11:41] <KeithWeisshar> when is ubuntu 15.04 for desktop coming out
[11:42] <k1l> KeithWeisshar: some time today
[11:42] <k1l> KeithWeisshar: see #ubuntu-release-party for the announcement
[11:43] <codemagician> KeithWeisshar: #ubuntu-release-party
[11:43] <pavlos> l9, find <starting dir> -f -not -name *.mkv -exec rm -rf {} \;
[11:43] <Rene_> !party_time
[11:43] <Rene_> awww
[11:43] <Rene_> xD
[11:44] <Rene_> ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about party_time , at least it awnsered something back in a pm :D
[11:45] <svetlana> aw
[11:45] <pavlos> l9, the -f should be -type f
[11:46] <DazPetty> I guess all you can do it try it and then fix it if it breaks kdenewbie_
[11:53] <Laurenceb__> hi, i have a problem with a samaba drive
[11:53] <Laurenceb__> can anyone help?
[11:53] <Laurenceb__> sudo mount -a
[11:53] <Laurenceb__> mount error(13): Permission denied
[11:53] <cfhowlett> !samba | Laurenceb__
[11:54] <Laurenceb__> yeah im following that guide
[11:54] <WoLFMaN> Hi , Can someone help I have a problem with ubuntu on my mac i have put some screenshots onimgur
[11:54] <WoLFMaN> Hi , Can someone help I have a problem with ubuntu on my mac i have put some screenshots onimg ur
[11:54] <WoLFMaN> Hi , Can someone help I have a problem with ubuntu on my mac i have put some screenshots on imgur
[11:55] <Ben64> dude.
[11:55] <EriC^^> WoLFMaN: you missed the space after Hi
[11:55] <l9> hahah
[11:55] <l9> please correct and repost
[11:55] <AdvoWork> Rene_, i have root access though, any idea how to mount it with full access?
[11:55] <Happy_Larry> When mounting your drive you need the domain name
 normaly u need to set the uid on moubting it like: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o discard,defaults,auto,noexec,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=002 UUID=1D0A24CC2EAEF9C9 /mnt/SSD
[11:56] <Rene_> where uid=1000,gid=1000 makes sure ur normal user can get to it
[11:57] <Rene_> umask needed too i guess
[11:57] <EriC^^> WoLFMaN: post the url and somebody might know
[11:57] <AdvoWork> Rene_, ahh and you can't just mount by plugging it in, plug/play?
[11:57] <Rene_> im not sure, im not plugin in stuff all the time
[11:57] <Rene_> what does mount say ?
[11:58] <Rene_> how is the volume now mounted ?
[11:58] <Ben64> AdvoWork: usually can, you've not given any details of what you mounted, how its mounted or anything like that
[11:58] <l9> EriC^^: he has an horrible ping
[11:58] <WoLFMaN> http://imgur.com/a/avG2I
[11:58] <WoLFMaN> the bottom version works the others dont.
[11:59] <EriC^^> WoLFMaN: does ubuntu work?
[11:59] <AdvoWork> Rene_, how can i get the UUID of the USB HD?
[11:59] <l9> what did you change between them ?
[11:59] <Rene_> uhm not sure, i took it over from some auto script that  mounted it like that
[11:59] <AdvoWork> Ben64, to be fair, i literally just plugged it into the laptop by usb, nothing else, it detects it, i can see files on it, but no access to copy to it
[11:59] <Ben64> AdvoWork: pastebin the output of "mount"
[12:00] <[n0mad]> Advowork, can you create a new folder on the root of the drive?
[12:00] <Rene_> i think you should just be able to give up the directory
[12:00] <Rene_> oione sec
[12:00] <murcha> should i use in the shell script (sudo reboot -f) or (reboot -f)?
[12:00] <Rene_> in dev/disk
[12:00] <EriC^^> !nomodeset | WoLFMaN try booting with this
[12:01] <AdvoWork> [n0mad], no i cant, let me just pastebin
[12:01] <Rene_> you can look by id or label or path
[12:01] <l9> EriC^^: 30 - 36 that is a big jump tho, what changed in 36 that made 34 and 33 crash also
[12:01] <EriC^^> WoLFMaN: also remove the quiet splash part and see what it says
[12:01] <Rene_> i think you should be able to use those things with  mounting
[12:02] <AdvoWork> Ben64, its http://pastebin.com/3s3k4Zi9
[12:02] <l9> oooh maybe i can get my gpu working on the desktop
[12:02] <EriC^^> l9: that's an odd splash screen O.o
[12:02] <Ben64> AdvoWork: and where are you trying to make files/folders
[12:02] <Rene_> but if you do mount in a console, one of the lines should relate to the drive you want to acces, i would suggest aletering that line or copying it and ad in the uid etc
[12:03] <Rene_> altering
[12:03] <ahoppp> Hi!
[12:03] <ahoppp> What does Ubuntu use for automounting USB sticks?
[12:03] <EriC^^> ahoppp: gvfs
[12:03] <ahoppp> It works very well, but I don't know what it is
[12:03] <AdvoWork> Ben64, its made it on, /media/user/BACKUP2  so im trying to make a new folder within their
[12:03] <l9> EriC^^: the fishes that is swiming on the screen is reflecktions from his cam
[12:03] <AdvoWork> *there
[12:03] <EriC^^> ahoppp: udisksctl
[12:03] <k1l> ahoppp: gfvs
[12:03] <[n0mad]> AdvoWork: it's mounting read only
[12:04] <ahoppp> udisks or gfvs ?
[12:04] <Ben64> [n0mad]: no
[12:04] <l9> EriC^^: has the newest LTS gotten released ?
[12:04] <EriC^^> if you want to use the terminal to mount using it
[12:04] <k1l> ahoppp: gvfs
[12:04] <Ben64> AdvoWork: try "sudo touch /media/user/BACKUP2/test"
[12:04] <ahoppp> I want to install the same on my RaspPi : automounting of USB key
[12:04] <k1l> (sorry had a typo before)
[12:04] <ahoppp> and I'm struggling with "autofs" since 2 hours :(
[12:05] <ahoppp> but on Ubuntu it works perfect :)
[12:05] <AdvoWork> Ben64, that worked
[12:05] <Ben64> ahoppp: you should be asking #raspberrypi then
[12:05] <ahoppp> Ben64: I did on #archlinux-arm
[12:05] <Ben64> AdvoWork: then you need to use sudo to copy/move stuff, or make your user the owner of it
[12:05] <l9> ahoppp: whats the problem ?
[12:05] <k1l> ahoppp: then ask the OS you use there for help with it. ubuntu desktop uses gvfs. we cant help you on other OS
[12:05] <Ben64> ahoppp: ok, good. you should not be asking #ubuntu about non-ubuntu issues
[12:05] <EriC^^> l9: it's being released today, it's not a lts though
[12:06] <ahoppp> Ben64: kll:  I ask here because I wanted to know the name of what Ubuntu uses for this
[12:06] <Rene_> touch makes a read only drive writable ?
[12:06] <AdvoWork> Ben64, for this exercise it would be so much easier if i can have gui access due to the amount of files/folders im trying to backup, how do i make my user the owner of it?
[12:06] <Ben64> Rene_: no
[12:07] <l9> WoLFMaN: you alived or did the computer eat you ?
[12:07] <Ben64> AdvoWork: probably "sudo chown $USER /media/rich/BACKUP2"
[12:07] <Garo_> Hello. It seems that us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com is partially broken. Not sure where to fill a bug report. proof: curl -I http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/w/watershed/watershed_6_amd64.deb gives 503 error.
[12:08] <AdvoWork> Ben64, got it, thanks, and thanks Rene_
[12:08] <l9> EriC^^: was certain that this release was an LTS, you tried upgrading too it ? +
[12:08] <Rene_> np
[12:08] <Ben64> AdvoWork: protip - you can use rsync in the terminal for backing stuff up
[12:08] <Rene_> im just a noob :D
[12:08] <Ben64> l9: LTS is every 2 years
[12:08] <EriC^^> l9: nope, i'm running 14.04, i'll probably install it to a vm though
[12:09] <k1l> l9: its not LTS. LTS is only every 2 years. 12.04, 14.04, .....
[12:09] <Kartagis> hi
[12:09] <ajkerr> Hi there - we are having severe problems in AWS us-east-1 this morning.
[12:09] <ajkerr> E: Failed to fetch http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/autogen/autogen_5.18-2ubuntu2_amd64.deb  503  Service Unavailable [IP: 54.196.25.178 80]
[12:09] <Rene_> when an lts comes out it has 5 years support or is it more ?
[12:09] <Garo_> ajkerr: you aren't the only one
[12:09] <EriC^^> Rene_: yeah 5 years
[12:09] <k1l> ajkerr: Garo_ change mirror?
[12:10] <Garo_> k1l: yeah. us-west-1 mirror works
[12:10] <l9> k1l yeah i know but normally i dont even check what version ubuntu are on cause i am down under doing bsd stuff
[12:10] <ajkerr> Is anyone looking into the issue?
[12:10] <mcphail> ajkerr: I suspect the mirrors will be melting today
[12:11] <mistralol> ajkerr works find for me
[12:11] <Kartagis> I'm running 14.04 atm and alt+tab is not working even though I set it in keyboard shortcuts. this is annoying
[12:11] <Laurenceb__> hi, can anyone help me with samba?
[12:11] <Laurenceb__> sudo mount -a    mount error(13): Permission denied
[12:11] <Ben64> Laurenceb__: ask your question to find out
[12:12] <graingert> hmm the ISOs are out but update-manage doesn't suggest an upgrade
[12:12] <Kartagis> Laurenceb__: no access
[12:12] <Laurenceb__> i dont know why im getting an error
[12:12] <Laurenceb__> i recently changed the password, so ive edited the credentials file
[12:12] <Laurenceb__> and restarted smbd
[12:12] <Ben64> Laurenceb__: permission appears to be denied. make sure you have the right username,password,ip,share name, etc
[12:12] <Laurenceb__> is there anything else i need to restart?
[12:13] <WoLFMaN> No luck
[12:13] <WoLFMaN> No luck
[12:13] <k1l> Laurenceb__: change the password on the samba server with smbpasswd -a USER
[12:13] <k1l> WoLFMaN: stop spamming the channel.
[12:15] <ajkerr> @mcphail why would the mirrors be melting?  because of new release?
[12:15] <iBurley> Happy 15.04 day, everybody!
[12:15] <Rene_> :D
[12:15] <ajkerr> I guess that answers my question...
[12:15] <mcphail> ajkerr: :)
[12:16] <l9> WoLFMaN: no the computer shall not light on fire when booted, so if that is what you are trying todo you had success. if not please share why and what errors you get
[12:17] <Rene_> i have a fire extinguiser ready next to the pc on boot o.O
[12:17] <ioria> ajkerr, the mirro is ok
[12:17] <NoOova> How to disable line breaks for less or for more?
[12:17] <NoOova> I want to view logs
[12:17] <NoOova> with long lines
[12:17] <ajkerr> @ioria - it must be load related then.  seems to be intermittent.
[12:18] <Rene_> copy file and/or remove line breaks ?.?
[12:19] <l9> i have better luck cause i have an lighter next too my keyboard
[12:19] <Laurenceb__> ok I just checked with the BOFH
[12:19] <Laurenceb__> password works fine
[12:19] <Laurenceb__> something is wrong with my samba config
[12:20] <k1l> Laurenceb__: did you set the smbpassword like i told you on the smb server?
[12:20] <l9> Laurenceb__ config check ?
[12:20] <Laurenceb__> i dont realylfollow
[12:20] <ioria> Laurenceb__, why -a flag ?
[12:20] <Laurenceb__> i am trying to connect to a server
[12:20] <Laurenceb__> ill pastebin my config, as i dont understand
[12:20] <ioria> Laurenceb__, it mounts all
[12:20] <k1l> Laurenceb__: scroll up and re read what is worte
[12:21] <k1l> *wrote
[12:21] <Laurenceb__>  change the password on the samba server with smbpasswd -a USER
[12:21] <Laurenceb__> im using a credentials file
[12:21] <k1l> Laurenceb__: yes, and that is broken
[12:21] <l9> WoLFMaN: i know your answer, you should boot into rescue mode :D
[12:22] <WoLFMaN> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871039/
[12:23] <Rene_> <WoLFMaN> wow is the last screen space invaders starting ?
[12:23] <Laurenceb__> Failed to add entry for user <foo>
[12:23] <Laurenceb__> I'll see if BOFH can help me
[12:23] <fufulame> how do i keep software up-to-date? some programs via apt-get are older than the ones on their githubs. installing via github is fine, but how do i keep that up to date?
[12:23] <l9> they always catches on fire when i do that, wtf?
[12:24] <Rene_> but yeh rescue mode sounds like a good idea
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> !latest | fufulame
[12:25] <fufulame> !ppa
[12:25] <fufulame> !sru
[12:25] <l9> WoLFMaN: have you tried rescue mode
[12:25] <l9> WoLFMaN: what does mv file ../. do ?
[12:25] <k1l> fufulame: ubuntu only updates most program version once on the release date. so it stays the same. but ubuntu patches that version with security and heavy bug patches.
[12:26] <l9> and WoLFMaN is vi a word or a command ?
[12:27] <WoLFMaN> Where is vi?
[12:28] <l9> a place in italy
[12:28] <Rene_> is that now like vim ? the text editor ?
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> Rene_  vim mean vi improved
[12:28] <WoLFMaN> rescue mode loads to menu
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> means*
[12:29] <Rene_> ^.^ yeh thats what i ment, they r the same thingy sort of
[12:29] <WoLFMaN> recovery mode
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> tehe same but different
[12:29] <WoLFMaN> what is rescue mode
[12:29] <Rene_> in rescue mode you can get to a text promt, to fix stuff like graphics drivers or other issius
[12:30] <Rene_> or fix other stuff
[12:36] <guest-VCIqzm> how do i change my username to connect on undernet in irssi?
[12:36] <Kartagis> I'm running 14.04 atm and alt+tab is not working even though I set it in keyboard shortcuts. this is annoying. can you help?
[12:37] <guest-VCIqzm> i could not connect to undernet because of bad username
[12:37] <k1l> guest-VCIqzm: /nick newnick
[12:37] <guest-VCIqzm> oh
[12:37] <guest-VCIqzm> ty
[12:38] <k1l> Kartagis: what desktop are you on?
[12:38] <solrac> #lubuntu
[12:38] <Kartagis> k1l: gnome
[12:39] <k1l> hmm., alt+tab works on unity
[12:40] <Rene_> what keyboard lay out are you using, is it the correct one for the keyboard ?
[12:42] <Rene_> system settings -> layout settings -> there are some extra choices maybe its the wrong layout ?
[12:43] <Rene_> system settings -> keyboard -->  layout settings -> there are some extra choices maybe its the wrong layout ?
[12:43] <l9> did wolfman fix it dont see him
[12:44] <Rene_> he didnt say anything anymore, maybe he is in text mode atm doing stuff
[12:46] <BlueByte-> Is there a set of instructions to update openssl. I am having a hell of a time getting Ubuntu to patch.
[12:46] <k1l> BlueByte-: patch for what? a cve?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> BlueByte-, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should do it
[12:47] <OerHeks> BlueByte-, if you updated, you are patched
[12:47] <BlueByte-> It doesn't, it stays at version 1.0.1f. Looking to patch fallback
[12:47] <OerHeks> THat 1.0.1f isn't equal to the ssl numbering
[12:48] <OerHeks> !heartbleed
[12:48] <thms> old news is old
[12:48] <cfhowlett> "recent ..."
[12:48] <BlueByte-> Ok, when I test for fallback it's still not enabled. And I can't seem to find a config somewhere to turn it on
[12:49] <k1l> BlueByte-: fallback?
[12:49] <BlueByte-> TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV is not enabled
[12:50] <rmariotti> Hi, i've just built a new kernel, looking in /boot i notaiced that the initrd of the custom kernel is 5 times bigger than generic's initrd (~100 mb vs ~20 mb). it is normal?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> rmariotti  #ubuntu-kernel
[12:51] <ioria> prevent hack attack, i think
[12:52] <rmariotti> MonkeyDust: thx
[12:53] <k1l> BlueByte-: please show a "apt-cache policy openssl"
[12:54] <BlueByte-> Ok will hop on, thx
[12:55] <k1l> well, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2385-1/ says its included since 10.2014. so there is something wrong on that system anyway.
[12:56] <jayjo> how do I split my terminal window with screen?
[12:56] <jayjo> the screen command seemed to put me in a new windows
[12:57] <vlt> jayjo: Ctrl+A, S
[12:57] <vlt> jayjo: Ctrl+a, S <==
[12:59] <OerHeks> jayjo, there is a 'new tab'  function in terminal
[13:00] <jayjo> vlt: that's exactly what I wanted!
[13:00] <jayjo> thanks!
[13:00] <kanupatar> hi guys
[13:00] <Rene_> o/
[13:01] <BlueByte-> Sorry had to jump on. Installed 1.0.1f-ubuntu2.11
[13:01] <kanupatar> unfortuantely I removed the initrd.img from /
[13:01] <kanupatar> how can i recover?
[13:01] <rahulprodev> is ubuntu 15.04 released?
[13:01] <kanupatar> I have created softlink again but not coming up the GUI login
[13:01] <k1l> rahulprodev: see in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:01] <kanupatar> can see commandline login but not ready to use
[13:02] <rahulprodev> k1l thanks\
[13:02] <Rene_> <kanupatar>: isnt there an old back up file in the root dir ?
[13:02] <Rene_> initrd.img.old
[13:03] <kanupatar> Rene_: cannot see
[13:03] <Rene_> with me there is an initrd.img.old try to cp initrd.img.old initrd.img ?
[13:03] <kanupatar> not I have initrd.img->/boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic
[13:03] <chotaz`w> I'm trying to use sed and a regex to replace some occurencies of customization on my .desktop files. I'm having a bit of trouble understand why the error happens. If anyone doesn't mind taking a peak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871206/
[13:04] <kanupatar> Rene_: dont have that file man
[13:04] <kanupatar> please help
[13:04] <kanupatar> I am screwed
[13:05] <pbx> anyone using an apple cinema display?  i've been using 'acdcontrol' to set brightness and it just stopped working
[13:05] <Rene_> you dont have older boot files in the boot folder from earlier kernels, iaw can you boot with an earlier kernel ?
[13:06] <Rene_> @kanupatar
[13:06] <kanupatar> Rene_: no
[13:06] <kanupatar> now am at logged in commandline
[13:06] <kanupatar> and at root
[13:07] <kanupatar> Rene_: ^^
[13:07] <pbx> oh never mind, it's working again
[13:07] <Rene_> we need more profesional aid for this :) im out of ideas for the moment
[13:08] <kanupatar> Rene_: okay. can someone from this channel help me?
[13:08] <kanupatar> I am using ubuntu 14.04.1
[13:10] <Rene_> maybe you need to reinstall the kernel or something ?.? or what ever makes those files for booting so it gets recreated ?
[13:10] <Rene_> not sure how those images work
[13:10] <batden> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[13:10] <batden> 15.04 is here
[13:11] <Rene_> \o/ party time
[13:11] <batden> :)
[13:11] <Rene_> :)
[13:11] <k1l_> batden: dont do that. wait for the official announcment
[13:11] <Rene_> awww
[13:11] <k1l_> !party | batden
[13:12] <Rene_> i didnt know there was a party channel :D
[13:12] <ht3k> Where's the party channel for the new release? :D
[13:13] <k1l_> dont post links before announce to let the servers and mirrors sync the right iso first
[13:13] <Rene_> #ubuntu-release-party
[13:13] <ht3k> awesome
[13:13] <Rene_> ^.^
[13:13] <kanupatar> Rene_: no man...i need the same one
[13:14] <Rene_> maybe there is some undelete tool ?
[13:15] <Rene_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/3883/how-to-recover-deleted-files
[13:15] <OerHeks> Rene_, nope, when removed on comandline, there is no trashbin
[13:15] <Rene_> awww Q.Q
[13:15] <OerHeks> time to backup your data, and reinstall. valuable lesson not to remove things.
[13:16] <Rene_> http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ is named
[13:16] <Rene_> with command line stuff
[13:16] <kanupatar> OerHeks: my God
[13:16] <kanupatar> no other ways?
[13:16] <Rene_> i mean in win u could on dos also try to undelete files as they where still in the file system only marked as deleted idk if this works like that
[13:16] <blz> Hi guys... I just did something stupid and nuked my $PATH ... what is it's default value?
[13:17] <Rory> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[13:17] <blz> thanks Rory!
[13:17] <Rory> np blz we've all been there
[13:17] <k1l_> kanupatar: dont you have an old kernel installed?
[13:17] <blz> Rory, haha kicking myself so hard right now ^^
[13:17] <kanupatar> k1l_: no
[13:18] <kanupatar> I have logged into the kernel commandline
[13:18] <kanupatar> can see all files
[13:18] <kanupatar> but GUI login is failed
[13:18] <kanupatar> can boot
[13:18] <k1l_> kanupatar: well. load a live-dvd/usb and chroot into there and reinstall the linux-generic
[13:18] <kanupatar> k1l_: ok...what is the steps?
[13:18] <kanupatar> k1l_: any links?
[13:19] <kanupatar> k1l_: I have same usb bootable
[13:19] <kanupatar> k1l_: how to do this?
[13:19] <kanupatar> I only deleted, /initrd.img
[13:19] <kanupatar> and which is given in grub.cfg
[13:20] <Rene_> normaly it's only a link to the generic_pea img
[13:20] <blz> Phew, back in business! :)
[13:20] <kanupatar> Rene_: yes, I created the link
[13:20] <kanupatar> ln -s - -
[13:20] <Dev_> Hi
[13:21] <Rene_> well you have booted also, so is it not a graphics problem then atm ?
[13:21] <Rene_> as you have recreated the file
[13:22] <Dev_> I have installed ubuntu 14.04 but everything getting crash like eclipse juno, chrome also not working
[13:22] <ilyas> Hi
[13:22] <kanupatar> Rene_: yes, recreated the file immediately after deleting it
[13:23] <kanupatar> Rene_: k1l_ X11 is not running
[13:23] <Dev_> Hello
[13:23] <Rene_> yeh so u need to get x11 back running basicly
[13:23] <Dev_> I have installed ubuntu 14.04 but everything getting crash like eclipse juno, chrome also not working
[13:23] <k1l_> kanupatar: sorry, cant find a good howto in english
[13:23] <ilyas> How can I kill X ? I want to do an X11 forwarding but I have already an X11 in the distant computer which is on ubuntu ?
[13:23] <Rene_> sudo service lightdm stop
[13:23] <kanupatar> Rene_: the error I am getting when startx is xinit: connection to x server lost
[13:24] <kanupatar> k1l_: sorry, I am in hurry
[13:24] <kanupatar> k1l_: dont mis understand
[13:25] <kanupatar> Rene_: unknown instance
[13:26] <Rene_> maybe the x11.conf file is wrong in /etc/X11
[13:26] <Rene_> can you boot in rescue mode with safe graphics ?
[13:26] <Rene_> if it works you can rest the graphics settings in the gui
[13:26] <Rene_> reset*
[13:27] <kanupatar> Rene_: how?
[13:27] <Rene_> if you boot in grub you can chose on boot to go in to resque mode
[13:27] <Rene_> after that you can say to boot with safemode graphics
[13:28] <kanupatar> Rene_: let me check..you mean recovery mode?
[13:28] <Tekkkz> Hello, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and want to use the ATMEGA32u4 Breakout Board from Adafruit with the CDC Bootloader and the programmer type for that avr109. Here is my udev rule: http://pastebin.com/AbSM8X5v and when I want to flash with avrdude it is everytime: device busy; how t ofix this?
[13:28] <Rene_> yes
[13:28] <Rene_> another option = https://askubuntu.com/questions/21309/how-to-restore-xserver
[13:29] <Rene_> or you can run a driver script from nvidia (what i do for my pc)
[13:29] <Rene_> probely amd has them too
[13:29] <Rene_> as i like to have the latest driver
[13:30] <kanupatar> Rene_: the failsafe graphix mode is not working
[13:30] <Rene_> you can either try to fix the problem like described in  https://askubuntu.com/questions/21309/how-to-restore-xserver iaw booting with a live cd and fixing it from there
[13:31] <Rene_> or you can download a driver for your card from nvidia or ati
[13:31] <Rene_> and run their script/driver-install from the command line
[13:31] <Rene_> i use nvidia and it always fixes any x11 problems i got
[13:31] <Rene_> it will make a fresh conf etc
[13:31] <yossarianuk> Ubuntu really needs to offer the latest nvidia driver - it would solve many issues
[13:32] <Rene_> yeh, i dont mind, the command line installer from nvidia is amazing
[13:32] <Rene_> just set it to build kms or what ever its named modules for the kernel and write a new x11.conf and ur up and running
[13:33] <kanupatar> Rene_: brought up the network
[13:33] <kanupatar> and sudo apt-get updarte is working
[13:33] <Rene_> when ur back in the gui you can always fallback to the original ubuntu suplied drivers
[13:33] <yossarianuk> rene_: yes thats what I do , however sometimes xorg updates require you to re-install rthe driver
[13:34] <Rene_> yeh, i made my own script to quickly reinstall the latest driver
[13:34] <Rene_> i just boot in to text mode from grub
[13:34] <Rene_> removing quiet splash with text
[13:34] <Rene_> and reinstall the driver and done
[13:34] <Rene_> when i get in to x11 problems
[13:35] <nop_per> ubuntu isnt using X11
[13:36] <kanupatar> Rene_: how to reinstall linux-generic from apt-get?
[13:37] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic linux-image
[13:37] <kanupatar> Rene_: will it install  my default 3.13 image?
[13:37] <Rene_> i guess it wil reinstall the latest kernel
[13:38] <Rene_> idk if thats 3.13
[13:38] <kanupatar> Rene_: means?
[13:38] <Rene_> you had an old kernel installed ?
[13:38] <Tekkkz> can someone help pls? Hello, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 and want to use the ATMEGA32u4 Breakout Board from Adafruit with the CDC Bootloader and the programmer type for that avr109. Here is my udev rule: http://pastebin.com/AbSM8X5v and when I want to flash with avrdude it is everytime: device busy; how t ofix this?
[13:38] <kanupatar> How can I reinatall 3.13.0-32-generic
[13:39] <kanupatar> I have 3.13.0-32-generic
[13:39] <Rene_> sudo update-initramfs -u -k 3.13.0-32-generic-pae
[13:40] <Rene_> sudo update-grub
[13:40] <kanupatar> Please hold
[13:40] <Dev__> Hi
[13:40] <Rene_> after that
[13:40] <Dev__> Can anybody help me
[13:40] <cfhowlett> !ask | Dev_,
[13:41] <Kully3xf_> how do I clear out sendmail cache
[13:42] <Dev__> i have installed Fresh Ubuntu 14.04 but everything getting crash like eclipse juno, google chrome. getting crash whenever am opening this.
[13:42] <Youtube1> How do I download a whole playlist in terminal off youtube with youtube-dl?
[13:43] <cfhowlett> Youtube1, see man youtube-dl      the video download options
[13:43] <FourFire> Hi!
 sounds bad, try a re-install or if it just doesnt work try another ubuntu version ?
[13:44] <Youtube1> cfhowlett, do I type youtube-dl?
[13:44] <EriC^^> !checksum | Dev__
[13:44] <FourFire> so I'm using wine to run an old game TES IV: Oblivion and it just randomly freezes sometimes, I've been told this is an xserver issue
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Youtube1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10871418/
[13:44] <FourFire> so now it's happened again, what can I do to avoid restarting the whole computer?
[13:45] <FourFire> I have wine in windowed mode with a virtual desktop
[13:45] <FourFire> the whole session is frozen
 do you have play on linux ? if you do or install it you could try to run the game with different wine flavours
[13:45] <rking> Short of restarting X, not much.
[13:45] <FourFire> yes I'm using PoL, the latest umm special version
[13:46] <FourFire> the one with the bugfixes
[13:46] <Rene_> ah k
[13:46] <FourFire> rking, how to?
[13:46] <fertrty> 11
[13:46] <Rene_> yeh i try out different wine version if stuff doesn't work properly, see if any other wines work better
[13:47] <Youtube1>  cfhowlett, Thanks!
[13:47] <FourFire> I tried with the initial wine in the ubuntu 14.10 repo
[13:47] <cfhowlett> Youtube1, happy2help!
[13:47] <FourFire> now this is the latest version installable by PoL
[13:47] <FourFire> How do I unfreeze the machine without hard restarting it?
[13:47] <Rene_> it's just an idea, i don't know about any x glitches sorry
[13:48] <Rene_> you can try to get to a terminal window
[13:48] <Rene_> like ctrl+alt+f1
[13:48] <rking> Control+Alt+Backspace if you enabled it. Or ^
[13:48] <FourFire> perhaps I should use a VM next time and run wine + my game inside it so I can just close the VM whenever it freezes
[13:48] <Rene_> and then do a sudo service lightdm stop
[13:48] <Rene_> to kill x
[13:49] <Rene_> and then a sudo service lightdm start
[13:49] <thms> How do  I tell dpkg -i to install required dependencies ?
[13:49] <zzarr> OMG... Vivid is a speed monster
[13:49] <thms> Trying to install bluej
[13:49] <FourFire> ctr + alt + f1 - f6 doesn't do anything
[13:49] <FourFire> same with backspace
[13:49] <Rene_> :(
[13:49] <FourFire> I'll try blind terminal
[13:50] <FourFire> nope
[13:50] <rking> ctrl+alt+bspace won't do anything unless you enable it. I would if you plan on to keep trying it to fix it.
[13:50] <FourFire> rking, yes
[13:50] <FourFire> I'
[13:50] <theag3nt> thms, IIRC apt-get install -f
[13:50] <FourFire> ll reboot the machine now
[13:50] <Kully3xf_> where to look if my aws mail server has been ahcked on ubuntu
[13:50] <Kully3xf_> it's sending out thousands and thousands of emails a second
[13:51] <Kully3xf_> sendmail and postfix
[13:51] <rking> plug the ethernet
[13:51] <rking> you're domain will get blacklisted
[13:51] <Rene_> if your hacked, best do a format & reinstall
[13:51] <rking> in a heartbeat
[13:51] <zzarr> I found a new driver "microcode firmware for intel cpus" what dose it do?
[13:51] <FourFire> good thing I've got an SSD, no worries about data corrupting or dead drives
[13:51] <Kully3xf_> it's aws there's no ethernet
[13:51] <Kully3xf_> I stopped the services and it's stopped
[13:52] <rking> you're amazon hosted server got hacked? 0.o
[13:52] <rking> your*
[13:52] <rking> IT woulda flagged your system by now. Unless it literally just happened.
[13:53] <FourFire> ok it's back up
[13:53] <Rene_> ^.^
[13:53] <BlackHorn> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to log in to my ubuntu session and it keeps showing a black screen and then going back to the login page. I recently edited my PATH so I thought it could be that, so commented out the lines in my .bashrc file that edited my PATH and my PATH is normal, but I still can't log in. I've deleted my XAuthority file too and also checked .profile to see if there is anything wrong with that. Anyone got any sug
[13:54] <rking> Did you backup before you edited that?
[13:55] <FourFire> how to enable this alt + backspace
[13:55] <johnv> it's April 23 where is 15.04?
[13:55] <EriC^^> BlackHorn: does the guest account right?
[13:55] <rking> @johnv Depends on your time zone for release
[13:56] <OerHeks> johnv, yes, good question.
[13:56] <BlackHorn> guest doesn't work either.
[13:56] <johnv> USA Kansas
[13:56] <EriC^^> BlackHorn: it might be a graphics driver issue, did you do any updates recently?
[13:56] <BlackHorn> ....Damn it....Yeah, I installed CUDA...
[13:57] <BlackHorn> I just needed the nvcc compiler, but it did try to install a graphics driver. It must have done that.
[13:57] <rking> @johnv Release is this evening.
[13:57] <EriC^^> purge and reinstall what you were using BlackHorn
[13:57] <BlackHorn> I installed it with a .deb, do you know how i could uninstall it?
[13:58] <TaZeR> comon 15.04 come to us baby
[13:58] <rking> get the package and then a normal apt-get remove
[13:58] <rking> name*
[13:58] <johnv> ok thanks
[13:58] <BlackHorn> ok. one sec.
[13:58] <BlackHorn> Will try it.
[13:58] <EriC^^> BlackHorn: did you download the .deb or it made it itself?
[13:58] <apxcr> rking: how do you know release is this evening? :O
[13:58] <rking> @apxcr Best friend works for canonical.
[13:58] <rking> Just called him. ha
[13:59] <TaZeR> ubuntu-mate devs said 6 hours 4 hours ago
[13:59] <TaZeR> so maybe soon
[13:59] <TaZeR> they all release at same time
[13:59] <EriC^^> BlackHorn: if a script made the .deb it might have an uninstall feature, or maybe it created an uninstall script in /usr/share/something
[13:59] <yossarianuk> The isos are already in the mirrors btw
[13:59] <Pici> /70/70
[13:59] <EriC^^> BlackHorn: otherwise try sudo apt-get purge <package> and reinstall the old driver
[13:59] <yossarianuk> (not sending any links as previously got banned.)
[14:00] <rking> @tazer, Yeah. My buddy told me the release will be this evening. Which means mid afternoon for us cst users.
[14:00] <Rene_> this evening gmt ?
[14:00] <apxcr> rking: CST here as well, sweet.
[14:02] <BlackHorn> I think you might be right about it being graphical. It's came up with a message about low graphics now. Now i've uninstalled the stuff.
[14:03] <BlackHorn> can you tell me how to install the default graphics driver? I think that might have uninstalled somehow.
[14:03] <BlackHorn> or been overwritten
[14:04] <BlackHorn> wait! i'm in!
[14:04] <BlackHorn> It's working. Thanks for the help.
[14:04] <BlackHorn> ....word of advice to everyone here....Don't install CUDA
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> BlackHorn  never heard of it, before you mentioned it, thanks, i'll try it soon
[14:05] <Rene_> i have had no problem with CUDA, but im using nvidia's own drivers not ubuntu, depends on also how new your card is
[14:05] <ht3k> BlackHorn: I think that goes without saying lol
[14:13] <FourFire> Rene_, oh yes worth mentioning: I have installed cuda 7.0 and used the propritary driver therein
[14:13] <ht3k> NVIDIA proprietary drivers are point point. AMD on the other hand...
[14:14] <rockstar_> How can I annotate(highlight) pdf with Okular, such that it is also visible in windows?
[14:14] <raojin> hello  everyone
[14:15] <ht3k> raojin: hi
[14:15] <Rene_> i had problems with cuda when my card was new, later it worked good
[14:15] <rockstar_> I know this is Ubuntu application specific question, but enlighten me if anybody knows the answer. :)
[14:15] <Rene_> 42 ?
[14:15] <raojin> how  do we speak with voice?
[14:16] <Pici> raojin: on IRC?  You don't.
[14:17] <kanupatar> Rene_: hello
[14:17] <Rene_> o/
[14:18] <kanupatar> installed another kernel
[14:18] <kanupatar> but same issues persists
[14:18] <kanupatar> any file system corruption?
[14:18] <kanupatar> now I have 3.13..0-32
[14:18] <Rene_> your problem is to start x right , that you do not get in to the gui ?
[14:18] <kanupatar> and 49
[14:18] <kanupatar> Rene_: yes
[14:18] <OerHeks> startx is depreciated, use sudo service lightdm start.
[14:18] <Rene_> what graphics card are you using ?
[14:19] <kanupatar> Rene_: how can I check?
[14:19] <Rene_> yeh i think he can not start x at all, but does a sudo service lightdm start do anything ?
[14:19] <OerHeks> maybe worth a !factoid
[14:21] <Rene_> try glxinfo
[14:21] <Rene_> it should give a vendor name etc
[14:21] <chotaz`w> anyone fluent in sed? I'm been trying to replace any occurrences of 'Icon=/some/path/here.png' to 'Icon=here' on all my .desktop files. I used the following regexp https://regex101.com/r/jX4vA7/1 and it /should/ work, but the result I'm having is none of the like. I ran sudo sed -i -r -e 's:(Icon=).*/(.*)(.png):&&:g' *.desktop
[14:21] <kanupatar> lightdm -> cannot start
[14:21] <Rene_> glxinfo
[14:21] <kanupatar> glxinfo-> not installed
[14:22] <kanupatar> going to install that now
[14:22] <Rene_> in the lines there is your card name like with me
[14:22] <kanupatar> Rene_: ?
[14:22] <Rene_> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 660/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
[14:22] <Rene_> do glxinfo in a console
[14:22] <Rene_> search for the crad name
[14:22] <Rene_> card*
[14:22] <kanupatar> Rene_: oing to install that
[14:23] <kanupatar> *going
[14:23] <kanupatar> Rene_: hold on
[14:23] <wafflejock> kanupatar, you can find your graphics card using, lspci -k, or sudo lshw, as well
[14:23] <kanupatar> wafflejock: wait
[14:24] <OerHeks> kanupatar, did you manage to put that initrd.img back ?
[14:24] <kanupatar> OerHeks: installed kernel
[14:24] <kanupatar> and I can see it
[14:25] <kanupatar> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic***
[14:25] <kanupatar> sudo update-grub
[14:25] <kanupatar> now I see three kernels
[14:25] <Rene_> :D
[14:25] <kanupatar> 32-lowlatency
[14:25] <kanupatar> 32
[14:25] <kanupatar> 49
[14:25] <kanupatar> :P
[14:26] <OerHeks> kanupatar, so you have initrd.img in / ?
[14:26] <kanupatar> OerHeks: yes
[14:27] <kanupatar> both old and
[14:27] <kanupatar> other
[14:28] <kanupatar> Rene_: unable to locate glxinfo
[14:28] <kanupatar> wafflejock: lspci -k, or sudo lshw , what is the exat grep string?
[14:28] <Rene_> you need to know your gpu, because then you can simply download and install the driver from ati or nvidia, and it will repair x, if you then want to use the ubuntu suplied driver you can set it again from the gui
[14:29] <zombyrad> try lspci | grep VGA
[14:30] <kanupatar> zombyrad: Rene_ wafflejock OerHeks Intel second gen core family integrated controller rev 09
[14:30] <TJ-> kanupatar: "lspci -nn | grep '\[030'  "
[14:30] <Rene_> or intel :')
[14:30] <Rene_> mmmm
[14:30] <kanupatar> TJ-: Rene_ Intel Intel Intel :(
[14:30] <zombyrad> Intel *should* be supported in the kernel, no?
[14:30] <Rene_> idk if they suply drivers for linux lets search
[14:31] <kanupatar> Rene_: my machine was working for the last one year
[14:31] <kanupatar> today only the issue came
[14:31] <TJ-> kanupatar: Silly question. Tell us the precise PCI ID of the device that the command I gave you reports, its at the end of the line and surrounded by square brackets, e.g. [10de:06f8]
[14:31] <Rene_> im told to do a
[14:31] <Rene_> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[14:31] <OerHeks> Intel is supported in the kernel, if you want glxinfo, READ the error, it gives you a hint what package you need.
[14:31] <Rene_> mm wait
[14:31] <Rene_> thats a distro update
[14:32] <kanupatar> Rene_: ?
[14:32] <zombyrad> yeah, hold off on upgrades...
[14:32] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:32] <TJ-> kanupatar: That PCI ID is what device drivers use to uniquely identify the hardware they support, and we can check which driver supports that ID very easily
[14:32] <ronal> Hello!¿Skepak in spanish?
[14:32] <Rene_> sounds better
[14:32] <ronal> skeak
[14:32] <ronal> speak
[14:32] <ronal> x_x
[14:32] <Amm0n> iirc intel dropped support for new drivers in 14.04
[14:33] <kanupatar> TJ-:  not clear man
[14:33] <Rene_> The Intel graphics driver is part of the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver package, which is installed on all Ubuntu systems by default. And since it isn't a proprietary driver package, it doesn't show up in jockey (aka the Hardware Drivers application).
[14:33] <OerHeks> Amm0n, wrong
[14:33] <zombyrad> So, Intel should be working without any extra stuff, hmm
[14:33] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel should reinstall it if its lost
[14:33] <ronal> Problem games run dirver grafcis [No GPU]
[14:33] <TJ-> !es | ronal
[14:33] <ronal> garfics
[14:33] <OerHeks> !es | ronal
[14:34] <kanupatar> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel --> installinh
[14:34] <ronal> Gracias ubottu
[14:34] <ronal> Yes!!! kanupatar
[14:34] <ronal> No
[14:34] <kanupatar> ronal: ?
[14:34] <ronal> no funcion
[14:34] <kanupatar> Rene_: installed
[14:34] <kanupatar>  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:35] <kanupatar> what I should do next?
[14:35] <zombyrad> try rebooting now to load the driver
[14:35] <Rene_> try to boot see if it fixed anything
[14:35] <SlowLight> guys, anyone knows how many hours till the 15.10 final is released?
[14:35] <kanupatar> Rene_: startx failed
[14:35] <Rene_> you booted ?
[14:35] <kanupatar> Rene_: no
[14:35] <zombyrad> kanupatar: did you reboot?
[14:35] <OerHeks> SlowLight, less than 24 hrs, join #ubuntu-release-party for the announcement
[14:35] <kanupatar> just tried startx
[14:36] <Rene_> reboot the system for the drivers to load
[14:36] <chri5p> 15.10?
[14:36] <TJ-> Rene_: No need to reboot for an xorg driver change
[14:36] <Rene_> ow
[14:36] <OerHeks> LoLz, again: startx is depreciated, use sudo service lightdm start.
[14:36] <SlowLight> thanks
[14:36] <kanupatar> rebooting ......
[14:36] <ronal> Super tuxkart message: "driver grafics lost" Alienarena: NO OK resolution my machine: 1440x900
[14:36]  * kanupatar is very excited with the channel support
[14:36] <TJ-> Rene_: restarting the X server is sufficient for that. Only need to restart the system if a kernel level driver already has control of the device and an alternative kernel driver needs to be used, such as switching between Nouveau and Nvidia
[14:37] <Rene_> im sorry :)
[14:37] <kanupatar> .....
[14:37] <kanupatar> .....
[14:37] <Rene_> xD
[14:37] <kanupatar> seems stuck
[14:37] <kanupatar> !
[14:37] <kanupatar> ubuntu bubbles!!!
[14:37] <kanupatar> .....
[14:37] <kanupatar> 8 th time
[14:37] <kanupatar> need to wait?
[14:37] <kanupatar> 10th time
[14:37] <Rene_> is there an back up x11.conf file
[14:37] <kanupatar> ......
[14:37] <Rene_> in etc/x11
[14:38] <kanupatar> Rene_: wait
[14:38] <OerHeks> kanupatar, easy on the enter please
[14:38] <Rene_> maybe its corrupted the one ur using
[14:38] <ronal> Goodbye, i bad english!
[14:38] <Rene_> try to copy x11.conf for backup and replace it with x11.conf.old
[14:38] <TJ-> kanupatar: read the log file for clues: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:38] <kanupatar> is there an back up x11.conf file ?
[14:38] <skkkky> hi all
[14:38] <Rene_> yes normaly there is
[14:38] <Rene_> in etc/x11/
[14:39] <Caleb--> how does the 14.10 -> 15.04 update procedure work? i just did apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade but i don't see anything
[14:39] <skkkky> ubuntu 15.04 released or not?
[14:39] <somsip> skkkky: yes
[14:39] <ronal> #ubuntu-es
[14:39] <OerHeks> Caleb--, just wait for the release
[14:39] <TJ-> kanupatar: Rene_ In most systems the X server autoconfigures and no "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" exists. There is only such a file if the system needs non-automatic settings
[14:39] <somsip> OerHeks: my bad - still not announced?
[14:39] <Caleb--> OerHeks, ah, woops, i saw it on phoronix
[14:39] <Rene_> or from x11.conf~
[14:40] <OerHeks> 9 minutes ago not, as i can read in #ubuntu-release-party
[14:40] <Rene_> ubuntu doesnt have an x11.conf ?
[14:40] <Caleb--> OerHeks, any idea if i need to manually remove PPA i've added?
[14:40] <Rene_> this is from the nvidia driver ?
[14:40] <Caleb--> PPAs*
[14:40] <kanupatar> hello
[14:41] <Rene_> o/
[14:41] <zombyrad> non-free nvidia still uses xorg.conf I believe
[14:41] <kanupatar> [20:07] <Rene_> in etc/x11
[14:41] <kanupatar> ?
[14:41] <schwing> Caleb--: i just joined to asked that same question!  :)
[14:41] <Rene_> TJ can you help kanupatar> then :) ?
[14:41] <OerHeks> Caleb--, that would be a good thing to do, before upgrading. upgrade disables ppa's but i can imagine that it would mess up
[14:41] <skkkky> there's nothing in its web page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:41] <Amm0n> OerHeks, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2015/intelr-graphics-installer-linux-1.0.8
[14:41] <Rene_> as then i dont know i dont got an intel gpu
[14:42] <OerHeks> Amm0n, known site, bad driver for ubuntu.
[14:42] <skkkky> when is it gonna be released?
[14:42] <Rene_> i thought he might have nvidia or ati and could easily reinstall drivers
[14:42] <mantys89> http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/ubuntu-1504-vivid-vervet-has-been.html
[14:42] <Rene_> from the ati or nvidia site
[14:42] <Caleb--> OerHeks, so after upgrade i would have to manually re-add all PPAs? or just re-enable them?
[14:42] <kanupatar> any clues anyone?
[14:42] <kanupatar> am stcuk
[14:42] <kanupatar> stcuck
[14:42] <kanupatar> stuck
[14:43] <Rene_> yeh im unsure how to repair your setup, people r telling me its not in x11.conf if its not nvidia :(
[14:44] <schwing> Caleb--: looks like you can remove PPAs with the same add-apt-repository command by passing it -r <the PPA>
[14:44] <Rene_> it's weird as your gpu should be recognized automaticly
[14:44] <skkkky> why i can't upgrade my 14.10 to 15.04 ?
[14:44] <kanupatar> Rene_: I am totally lost all
[14:44] <mantys89> http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-1504-vivid.html
[14:44] <Rene_> oh wait intel does suply drivers
[14:44] <Rene_> can u read webpages ?
[14:45] <Rene_> https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/13815/Intel-Graphics-Drivers-for-Linux-
[14:45] <kanupatar> Rene_: still I am confused if it is x11 issues
[14:45] <OerHeks> Rene_, don't point him at webpages with intel drivers
[14:45] <wafflejock> SlowLight, 15.04
[14:45] <kanupatar> any file system related issue?
[14:45] <zombyrad> Rene_: the intel driver should work automatically too...
[14:45] <OerHeks> that page is a bad driver for ubuntu
[14:45] <kanupatar> it was working last day
[14:45] <OerHeks> Rene_, he messed up his system by removing initrd.img, so advise him to backup data and reinstall
[14:46] <ChunkzZ> where is ubuntu based? what country?
[14:46] <Rene_> oke i dont know about intels drivers, but i do know that installing drivers also normaly fixes any iddues with the system settings automaticly
[14:46] <wafflejock> yeah Rene_ no need for any extra installs for Intel drivers that are built in to work something else is wrong
[14:46] <Zeedox> I've had some apt issues lately. Either apt output stops or the computer crashes. This is the latest output. https://gist.github.com/strokirk/5d4810762105382cb8ce
[14:47] <kanupatar> OerHeks: :(
[14:47] <kanupatar> Rene_: :(
[14:47] <Zeedox> I'm a bit worried about corrupting something by ctrl-c:ing the update-grub step.
[14:47] <Rene_> he can alwyas go back to ubuntu's drivers if the drivers script would auto fix the problem to start the gui,  thats the idea behind it anyway
[14:47] <kanupatar> Rene_: OerHeks I have internet working in the console
[14:47] <gingermouse> ChunkzZ: Ubuntu is developed worldwide. There isn't really a single place that it's based.
[14:48] <kanupatar> I can do whatever to fix the issue...
[14:48] <kanupatar> please suggest
[14:48] <ChunkzZ> gingermouse, okay. just it's nearly 4pm and sitll no release..
[14:48] <L0chl4nn> can I completely purge dpkg and then reinstall it after? **Ubuntustudio 14.04.2**
[14:48] <zombyrad> OerHeks: if he removed his initrd, can't he rebuild it?
[14:48] <Rene_> how does intel then read settings if it doesnt use x11.conf ?
[14:48] <SlowLight> @wafflejock yup, sorry my mistake, meant 15.04
[14:49] <kanupatar> TJ-: gone?
[14:49] <zombyrad> Rene_: Xorg uses autodetect for most of its settings now afaik
[14:49] <wafflejock> SlowLight, no big deal just figured I'd throw the correction out there, always year.month 2015.04
[14:49] <johnv> I need my 15.04.
[14:49] <kanupatar> Rene_: also the network only works in recovery mode
[14:49] <Zerkalerka> johnv: me too
[14:49] <TaZeR> johnv: motion seconded
[14:49] <kanupatar> something happened to the fs?
[14:50] <TaZeR> its like waiting for crack
[14:50] <OerHeks> !drugs
[14:51] <wafflejock> I think last year it came out on the 28th for my b-day
[14:51] <wafflejock> nice to get new Ubuntu on your b-day
[14:51] <Pici> !party
[14:51] <SlowLight> @wafflejock thats interesting, I didn't know that!! thanks for sharing
[14:53] <Rene_> what ubuntu version are you using kanupatar ?
[14:53] <L0chl4nn> does anyone know if I can I completely purge dpkg and then reinstall it after? **Ubuntustudio 14.04.2**
[14:53] <kanupatar> 14.04.1
[14:54] <Rene_> ah nvm only drivers anyway for 14.10
[14:54] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, not sure but what would you be installing dpkg with? also what's wrong with your current dpkg?
[14:55] <Rene_> udo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[14:55] <Rene_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:55] <Rene_> sudo update-alternatives --remove gl_conf /usr/lib/nvidia-current/ld.so.conf
[14:55] <Rene_> is suggested in one help topic
[14:55] <Rene_> sudo*
[14:56] <kanupatar> Rene_: need to do all?
[14:56] <Rene_> yes
[14:56] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: I'm getting all kinds of errors with dpkg. Countless hours on Google and trying "fixes" have not fixed the problems.
[14:56] <kanupatar> Rene_: please hold
[14:56] <Rene_> first line udo = sudo
[14:56] <kanupatar> Rene_:  I need to type
[14:56] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: according to what I can find dpkg is only "half installed" ... which doesn't make sense to me
[14:57] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, well would suggest backing up before you try anything with dpkg but can reinstall dpkg using sudo apt-get install dpkg --reinstall, but with regard to purging it then installing I don't believe apt-get can operate without dpkg so you'd probably need to build it from source, have never tried though
[14:58] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, is this a new install?
[14:59] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: everything is already backed up as a "just-in-case" fail safe... Yes this is a fresh install, only 2 days old
[14:59] <kanupatar> Rene_: unable to locate package libg11-mesa-glx
[14:59] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, you still have the install media? would be worth checksumming it and verifying the hash from wherever you downloaded it from
[15:01] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx
[15:01] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: checksum was done before making the liveusb and then installed from there. It was downloaded from the ubuntu torrent *this is my first time ever using one of the torrents to download ubuntu*
[15:01] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, dpkg itself wouldn't have a problem that's something that would be caught before release I'm sure, I imagine something got corrupted somewhere along the way though, could be something bad in the download or transfer to installation media which a checksum could tell you
[15:01] <kanupatar> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[15:01] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: I will do a fresh download and install again if it is the "best" option
[15:01] <Rene_> sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa
[15:01] <kanupatar> g1l
[15:01] <Rene_> maybe that one too
[15:02] <faust> L0chl4nn: maybe it is your usb key that is broken
[15:02] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, should be able to checksum the usb device as well just to verify everything copied over correctly
[15:02] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, if the checksum matches you can be sure the data is the same
[15:02] <philip_> command to install application like java
[15:02] <Rene_> sudo apt-get update
[15:02] <L0chl4nn> faust: same usb key was used the day before to isntall Ubuntu Server onto another machine and all went well with that install. Only difference was that I didn't use torrent to download that image
[15:02] <philip_> please what is the command to install application like java
[15:02] <OerHeks> Can somebody help me ? because some key is missing, we wait 5 days for Firefox 37.0.2 https://launchpadlibrarian.net/203615172/buildlog_ubuntu-utopic-arm64.firefox_37.0.2%2Bbuild1-0ubuntu0.14.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:03] <kanupatar> Rene_: wait
[15:03] <kanupatar> I am doing this in recovery mode
[15:03] <kanupatar> taking time
[15:03] <philip_> command to install jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[15:03] <philip_>  file
[15:03] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, okay if you checked it after download though I wouldn't suspect the torrent being a problem (really the torrents checksum everything too)
[15:03] <faust> L0chl4nn: if the checksum was correct it doesn't matter if you downloaded it via torrent
[15:03] <link123> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/04/ubuntu-15-04-download-new-features
[15:04] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock, faust, checksum passed after downloading.
[15:04]  * faust didn't know that there is someone who actually uses torrent for ubuntu's iso :P
[15:04] <philip_>  file
[15:04] <philip_> command to install jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[15:04] <L0chl4nn> faust: this was my first time using torrent....
[15:05] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, need more info on the exact errors you're getting
[15:05] <Rimes> I'm messing around with Docker Containers and am trying to figure out how to get VI installed on a container.  The repository for VI is not on there, however, I have no idea how to add it given that I have no text editor to edit the repository list....
[15:06] <faust> L0chl4nn: anyway if you did a "fresh install" just a couple of days ago the "best" thing would be to reinstall the system, I don't knwo what exactly your problem is, but any solution that want you to remove you package manager is going to be messy. So, if you can, avoid it.
[15:06] <L0chl4nn> wafflejock: too many to list. which is why I was thinking a fresh install would maybe be the best option. especially since everything is already backed up
[15:06] <philip_> please command to install jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[15:07] <L0chl4nn> faust: my thoughts exactly.
[15:07] <wafflejock> L0chl4nn, yeah agree with faust would be good to try and figure out what the problem is but give it at least one more try with a fresh install and if you have the same problem then come back and can try to find the issue and find or file a bug
[15:07] <kanupatar> Rene_: done
[15:07] <TripWire> I'm looking for a way to automatically switch the sound to my HDMI device when I plug in the cable.  I found a solution online, but that's only for Ubunut 12.02 and I'm using 14.04.
[15:07] <OerHeks> philip_, unpack that tar first, click on it, and it opens in fileroller
[15:08] <L0chl4nn> Fresh install it is :) ... Thanks wafflejock & faust
 u installed the drivers with ? sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[15:08] <Rene_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:08] <OerHeks> !java |  better take a look at this page philip_
[15:08] <philip_> oerHeksam using the terminal .
[15:08] <Richard|> Hi, I'm currently booting Ubuntu 14.10 with the kernel 3.16.0-33, as the latest kernel causes an overheating problem with my laptop. If I upgrade to 15.04 will this cause any problems? Should I set GRUB back to default first?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> philip_  it's a tar file, try tar xvf [package]
[15:08] <alexandros_tab> hi slacker, TripWire!
[15:08] <NoOova> Could i name a my own package 'logging'?
[15:09] <philip_> done that.After that what next
[15:09] <kanupatar> Rene_: I need to do this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:09] <Rene_> k
[15:09] <somsip> !packaging | NoOova
[15:09] <kanupatar> Rene_: done
[15:09] <Rene_> if all is done and it worked, do a sudo service lightdm start
[15:09] <kanupatar> Rene_: now?
[15:10] <kanupatar> Rene_: job failed to stary
[15:10] <Rene_> :'(
[15:10] <kanupatar> I am in recovery mode
[15:10] <kanupatar> do i need to reboot ?
[15:11] <Rene_> you should not have to do that i was told, but you can try
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> philip_  is there no README that tells you how to continue?
[15:11] <Rene_> i will search see if i can findother solutions
[15:12] <kanupatar> Rene_:
[15:12] <kanupatar> ok
[15:13] <Rene_> is there no x11.conf in etc/x11 ?
[15:13] <gingermouse> xorg.conf
[15:13] <demahum> It says here https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/here-comes-kilo-15-05-containers-will-never-be-the-same-again/ that new Ubuntu is out, but when I go to the download page, there is no 15.04. Why is this?
[15:13] <Rene_> sorry
[15:14] <gingermouse> demahum: takes a while to get it on the download page.
[15:14] <Rene_> yeh xorg.conf in etc/x11
[15:14] <somsip> demahum: a few places are reporting it is out, but it's not. I got caught by one earlier. Look for official announcement on ubuntu.com
[15:14] <Rene_> i said it worng
[15:14] <gingermouse> Rene_: no worries! ;)
[15:14] <Rene_> :)
[15:14] <demahum> somsip: But this is from insights.ubuntu.com https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/here-comes-kilo-15-05-containers-will-never-be-the-same-again/
[15:15] <TaZeR> 15.04 iso's are out grab em here http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:15] <kanupatar> Rene_: wait
[15:15] <Pici> The isos might be ready, but the repository contents are still being finalized, I would wait to install until the announcement is made.
[15:15] <somsip> demahum: "today ...is released" not 'was' or 'has been'.
[15:15] <kanupatar> Rene_: no man
[15:16] <serenoa> does anyone know if 15.04 fixes the display bug with intermittently missing characters/letters
[15:16] <Rene_> no old xorg.conf ? like xorg.conf~ ?
[15:16] <kanupatar> Rene_: instead xorg.conf.failsafe is present
[15:16] <Rene_> oke try to copy that to xorg.conf
[15:16] <Rene_> cp xorg.conf.failsafe xorg.conf
[15:16] <demahum> somsip: And also it can be downloaded from here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[15:17] <kanupatar> Rene_: done
[15:17] <Rene_> and the try to start x again: sudo service lightdm start
[15:17] <kanupatar> reboot?
[15:17] <somsip> demahum: yes - see Pici's comments 2 mins ago
[15:17] <kanupatar> Rene_: same
[15:17] <kanupatar> :(
[15:17] <Rene_> :(
[15:17] <mcphail> serenoa: depends which display bug you're talking about. I think the bug with modern nvidia drivers and compiz is fixed
[15:18] <demahum> somsip: I have seen it. So does not that means it is released?
[15:18] <Rene_> im not realy sure where the problem is :'(
[15:18] <demahum> gingermouse: So, from your experience, how long it will take for it to be at the official download page?
[15:19] <Pici> demahum: personally, I expect it to land in the next 3 hours. Probably sooner.
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> demahum  any time now
[15:20] <serenoa> mcphail: i've seen it mentioned on forums, not sure if it has a bug reference. sometimes i get missing characters all over the interface w/ intel hd 5500. at the moment i can't see any keyboard input into unity dash at all
[15:20] <ig0r_> is 15.04 fully baked yet?
[15:20] <mcphail> serenoa: don't know about that one. Sorry.
[15:20] <gingermouse> demahum: maybe noonish if you're in the US.
[15:21] <Pici> ig0r_: yes
[15:21] <Rene_> it's strange as the intel gpu should be running standard
[15:21] <Pici> !outyet
[15:21] <faust> Is there any way to get "https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/index.html" in english instead of my l10n?
[15:23] <demahum> Pici, MonkeyDust, gingermouse: Thanks a lot. :D
[15:23] <ChunkzZ> !outyet
 no other solutions seem to pop up in the search as the drivers are normaly included in the kernel
[15:24] <demahum> ChunkzZ: :D
[15:24] <mcphail> Congratulations on the release, to everyone involved
[15:24] <ChunkzZ> I don't see a download link??
[15:25] <demahum> ChunkzZ: You are not the only one. :D
[15:25] <TaZeR> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:25] <TaZeR> all flavors are there
[15:25] <compdoc> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) released
[15:25] <demahum> ChunkzZ: We just discussed it takes time to bring it to the download page. :D
[15:26] <kanupatar> Rene_: when I see the boot log, I see starting LighDM display manager failed
[15:27] <Rene_> yeh you can also not start it from the command line, something is going wrong
[15:27] <ChunkzZ> TaZeR, I don't do torrents.
[15:27] <mantys89> http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/ubuntu-1504-vivid-vervet-has-been.html >> Download links in one place :)
[15:27] <Rene_> sudo service lightdm start , should start it otherwise
[15:27] <kanupatar> Rene_: any issues with runlevels?
[15:27] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, then go to cdimage.ubuntu.com ?
[15:27] <dhaval2712> If I download ubuntu-server 15.04 and install kubuntu desktop, would I have driver issues as opposed to ubuntu desktop with Unity and everything?
[15:27] <kanupatar> hangs at boot sequence auditin
[15:27] <Rene_> i have no clue, im sort of at a loss what to do next
[15:28] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, I would if it was there.
[15:28] <kanupatar> Rene_: its okay man
[15:28] <OerHeks> dhaval2712, do you have driver problems with the normal desktop 15.04 iso ?
[15:28] <dhaval2712> No I haven't tried it yet, however, I have had issues with Debian and Fedora with my Nvidia 750Ti
[15:28] <Rene_> it might simply be a wrong xorg.conf file, but idk how to get in the rigth one if all the apt-get updates etc didnt work
[15:29] <AirtelFanMan> hello ubuntu fans
[15:29] <dhaval2712> I'm asking if it would be better if I download Ubuntu Desktop. Is there a major difference between the Server and Desktop editions?
[15:29] <AirtelFanMan> when is ubuntu 15.04 releasing in GMT time ?
[15:29] <OerHeks> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[15:29] <mcphail> dhaval2712: not major, no
[15:29] <Richard|> Hi, I'm currently booting Ubuntu 14.10 with the kernel 3.16.0-33, as the latest kernel causes an overheating problem with my laptop. If I upgrade to 15.04 will this cause any problems? Should I set GRUB back to default first?
[15:29] <dhaval2712> Cool. Thank you.
[15:29] <TandyUK> dhaval2712: the software installed by default is different, thats all
[15:30] <TandyUK> desktop has loads of stuff youd never need on a server
[15:30] <kanupatar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1860612 Rene_
[15:30] <coolstar-chrome> I'm hosting a wifi network from my laptop with Ubuntu 14.04 but the devices on the network don't appear to be getting internet connection for some reason
[15:30] <coolstar-chrome> the devices are able to access my local apache2 server but are unable to connect to the internet
[15:30] <AirtelFanMan> has ubuntu 15.04 released officially ?
[15:31] <ChunkzZ> anyone else still not see the download?
[15:31] <coolstar-chrome> on my laptop I have Internet access on wlan0 and I'm hosting the network on wlan1
[15:31] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, read back, i gave the url
[15:31] <gingermouse> ChunkzZ: few more hours, probably.
[15:31] <AirtelFanMan> Ubuntu 15.04 Launched or Not ?
[15:31] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, I don't see it?
 yeh maybe reinstalling lightdm will fix some settings problem you could try it
[15:31] <TandyUK> AirtelFanMan: apparantly so http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[15:32] <AirtelFanMan> TandyUK: Is that officially released link or beta version ?
[15:32] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: It's official
[15:32] <ChunkzZ> no it's not lol -.-
[15:33] <AirtelFanMan> demahum: Ubuntu.com doesnt give any link , why ?
[15:33] <mantys89>  It's official, but not anounced... :)
[15:33] <TandyUK> maybe waitign for it to distribute to mirrors before making the announcement?
[15:33] <AirtelFanMan> When is the Ubuntu 15.04 launch party ?
[15:33] <AirtelFanMan> Any IRC channel for Ubuntu 15.04 launch party ?
[15:33] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: The Ubuntu on the link you have just seen is ubuntu.com.
[15:33] <pero> hola
[15:33] <SchrodingersScat> !party | AirtelFanMan
[15:33] <TandyUK> what launch party lol
[15:33] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, what's the link? the one on that page is saying it was uploaded yesterday (uk)
[15:33] <gingermouse> AirtelFanMan: it takes a few hours for everything to get fully released. It will be available later today.
[15:34] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: It is releases.ubuntu.com
[15:34] <ChunkzZ> Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) (in development)
[15:34] <demahum> AirtelFanMan:  Her you can see that there are release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes
[15:34] <ChunkzZ> 22-Apr-2015 12:31
 i found something new to try
[15:35] <demahum> AirtelFanMan: And here the news about release, again from ubuntu.com: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/22/here-comes-kilo-15-05-containers-will-never-be-the-same-again/
[15:35] <OerHeks> ChunkzZ, then don't download it if you feel that is not alright
[15:35] <coolstar-chrome> anyone know which kernel version is in Ubuntu 15.04?
[15:35] <mcphail> coolstar-chrome: 3.19.something
[15:35] <brainwash> coolstar-chrome: 3.19
[15:35] <ChunkzZ> OerHeks, I'm replacing windows so want to make sure. :)
[15:36] <U1510nameseeker> What will WW stand for?
 sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg  ;  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:36] <Ekushey> 15.04 released already?
[15:36] <coolstar-chrome> mcphail, brainwash: yay, now I don't have to upgrade the kernel manually to get my trackpad working :D
[15:36] <emapaere> is there any software i can use to read pdf and epub documents on xterminal
[15:36] <coolstar-chrome> (support for my laptop's trackpad was added in 3.17)
[15:36] <mcphail> ha! :)
[15:37] <votre_nom> hey!
[15:37] <demahum> Ekushey: Yes. It is.
[15:39] <OerHeks> emapaere, not that i know of, or think it would be usefull, reading epub/pdf in terminal ???
[15:39] <kanupatar> Rene_: now installing lightdm
[15:39] <kanupatar> and also installed gdm
[15:39] <ChunkzZ> !outyet
 try reinstall of xserver if lightdm reinstall fails
[15:39] <Rene_>  <kanupatar> sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg  ;  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:39] <OerHeks> uh oh, installing lightdm AND gdm ??
[15:40] <demahum> ChunkzZ: How do you explain the existence of release notes, if it is not released?
[15:40] <faust> Is there any way to get <faust> Is there any way to get "https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/*" pages in english, regardless of my browser language?
[15:40] <faust> ops
[15:40] <faust> Is there any way to get "https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/*" pages in english, regardless of my browser language?
[15:40] <AirtelFanMan> what is Snappy Core Image Install ?
[15:40] <U1510nameseeker> !ops topic needs updating
[15:41] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: if you have to ask, you don't need to know :) Seriously
[15:41] <gp5st> http://dpaste.com/2TAG37A is this a bug in tr or expected behavior?
[15:41] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: it is a new framework for a minimal ubuntu installation with new package manager
[15:42] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: suitable for "the internet of things" and similar
[15:42] <Rene_> "the internet of hackable things" ftfy
[15:42] <AirtelFanMan> mcphail: okay
[15:43] <AirtelFanMan> Im a Geek :P
[15:43] <GatoLoko> is there an official code name for 15.10 already?
[15:43] <mcphail> Rene_: hackable in a good way, if you're using ubuntu core :)
[15:43] <Rene_> 15.04 \o/
[15:43] <Rene_> hehe :D
[15:43] <coolstar-chrome> !party
[15:43] <crankharder> does anyone know how I can connect to a headless vbox guest to install ubuntu-server?  assuming it has an IP assigned to it...
[15:43] <TripWire> Hi.....does anybody know a way to automatically switch the sound to my HDMI device when I plug in the cable.  I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.
[15:43] <AirtelFanMan> mcphail: Im geek, so i need one
[15:43] <TandyUK> crankharder: install the rdp plugin for vbox?
[15:44] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: then join #snappy and get hacking!
[15:44] <crankharder> TandyUK: is that in the Extension Pack?
[15:44] <AirtelFanMan> mcphail: Are you a hacker ?
[15:44] <U1510nameseeker> Crankharder, I assume there's a way to do an unattended installation with some kind of answer file
[15:45] <ChunkzZ> !outyet
[15:45] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: not in the hollywood sense
[15:45] <crankharder> U1510nameseeker: let's just assume i dont want to muck with that
[15:45] <mcphail> AirtelFanMan: but this is offtopic here
[15:45] <TandyUK> crankharder: yes
[15:46] <pero> bye
[15:47] <TaZeR> hey what do you guys think if i have ssd hardware encryption should i do software encryption with a password in ubuntu or will user and root password protect me enough?
[15:47] <AirtelFanMan> can we change root password in Ubuntu ?
[15:47] <Rene_> yes
[15:47] <Rene_> but not adviced
[15:47] <TaZeR> you set it during install i think
[15:48] <mcphail> TaZeR: depends on whether you trust the hardware encryption
[15:48] <Pici> !root
[15:48] <deshymers> so looking at https://code.launchpad.net/~sgringwe/+archive/ubuntu/rdio there doesnt seem to be a build for 14.0.4, anyone here build from source?
[15:48] <TaZeR> i think i trust it, its the samsung 850 evo
[15:48] <Rene_> the way root is set up it's best not to change the password yourself then it will be les safe
[15:48] <AirtelFanMan> Rene_: I dont think we have option to set it
[15:48] <TaZeR> fairly new drive
[15:48] <TaZeR> but im a paranoid type i might go for the extra layer of software encryption
[15:48] <Rene_> i think i read somewhere it's posible but then you lose some protections from ubuntu
[15:49] <TaZeR> maybe someone can somehow bruteforce my root password
[15:49] <TaZeR> its short because i have to keep entering it a lot
[15:49] <TaZeR> but encryption password i make impossible
[15:49] <TaZeR> yea ill go for both
[15:49] <AirtelFanMan> Why do other linux version offer changing root password then ?
[15:49] <TandyUK> "sudo su -; passwd;"
[15:49] <Pici> AirtelFanMan: did you read the link ubottu posted?
[15:50] <Rene_> yeh you can change it, but you break some other protections that are there to safe guard your root aco8unt
[15:50] <Rene_> its adviced not to change it
[15:50] <k1l_> AirtelFanMan: the ubuntu is not to use root user account at all. that doesnt interfer with what other OS do.
[15:50] <TandyUK> tbh thats a good reaso nfor me to ditch ubuntu then
[15:50] <TandyUK> I decide what happens, i dont need nannying
[15:51] <TandyUK> if you want to be nannied, use winblows
[15:51] <OerHeks> TandyUK, thanks for the rant.
[15:51] <TandyUK> np :)
[15:51] <TaZeR> windows is a very fine piece of software as well
[15:51] <Rene_> it's a protection sceme, i forgot how it works , you can change the root password but then ubuntu cant use its build in protections anymore
[15:51] <TaZeR> how else would we play all those great games!
[15:51] <k1l_> TandyUK: you can use the OS you want to. no problem. but that is just a false reason then. you can use sudo for all the tasks you want
[15:51] <TandyUK> crossover ;)
[15:51] <TaZeR> but windows 10 does look sucky, im sticking with 8 on my gaming rig
[15:52] <TaZeR> win 8.1 has been my favourite ever
[15:52] <Rene_> just make multi boot i can boot to 3 os'es :D
[15:52] <TaZeR> ill stick with it until support runs out
[15:52] <boshx_> oh dear
[15:52] <TaZeR> i would never boot into the other ones
[15:52] <Rene_> i stick with ubuntu for the steam support
[15:52] <TaZeR> what would the point be, id wanna be on my best os
[15:52] <k1l_> please put all the other talk to #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat and keep this channel for support. thanks
[15:52] <Rene_> o7 yes sir
[15:53] <TaZeR> im banned from offtopic because i went offtopic-offtopic
[15:53] <TaZeR> anyway time to install, cheers yall!
[15:56] <marianne_> hey guys... remember a few days back when I came on and Firefox was being stupid and showing the browser in a different language? well now, the browser is fine, but StarzPlay says I'm in another country. I looked in the obvious places to check my location and it says I'm here stateside... any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:57] <AirtelFanMan> anyone using Free Internet ?
[15:57] <Rene_> what is StarzPlay a program or a website ?
[15:57] <petrvs> it's a video on demand channel/feed, I believe
[15:57] <marianne_> Rene_: website to stream movies and such
[15:58] <Rene_> ah
[15:58] <petrvs> marianne_: what says you're stateside?
[15:58] <marianne_> petrvs: I looked at the time setting ... and the location says Eastern...
[15:59] <marianne_> petrvs: but the StarzPlay site doesn't think I'm here...
[15:59] <petrvs> in what way does it suggest it thinks you're in another country?
[16:00] <marianne_> petrvs: brought the page up and it has the following message: Sadly, fans of our shows and movies in other countries, other planets and distant galaxies cannot access STARZ Play. You must be in the United States or a US Territory to watch.
[16:00] <k1l_> AirtelFanMan: what is the issue behind that question?
[16:00] <marianne_> petrvs: I accessed it fine 2 days ago
[16:00] <petrvs> marianne_: could just be a bad error msg that applies to more than what it's stated
[16:00] <AirtelFanMan> k1l_: I want to know if free internet is really available
[16:01] <k1l_> marianne_: do you use a proxy with firefox?
[16:01] <marianne_> k1l_: no
[16:01] <petrvs> marianne_: what're you using for starzplay, what plugin/s?
[16:01] <daftykins> marianne_: check your extensions and so on.
[16:01] <Rene_> you would think that geo-ip location is triggered on peoples ip adress
[16:01] <k1l_> AirtelFanMan: the internet is free. you just need an isp to take part. but what is the issue with ubuntu now?
[16:02] <guadalinex> hello
[16:02] <xrosnight> k1l_: i dont agree with you. it's not free in China. :(
[16:02] <Rene_> o/
[16:02] <Rene_> i doubt it's free anywhere
[16:02] <guadalinex> my name is gerard in mexico
[16:03] <Pici> marianne_: Typically these things use the ip that you are connecting to their website with, its likely nothing that you can change via Ubuntu itself.
[16:03] <petrvs> it's as free as you make it
[16:03] <ObrienDave> the internet is free. you have to pay a provider for access
[16:03] <Rene_> my nbame is rene in the netherlands :D
[16:03] <guadalinex> alguien en español
[16:03] <k1l_> !es | guadalinex
[16:03] <marianne_> Pici: makes sense...
[16:04] <Rene_> you could email the website see if there is a problem with your ip that they have made a mistake
[16:05] <marianne_> Rene_: i think it's the site its self... POC provider validations too
[16:05] <EriC^^> check what your ip is maybe, whatismyip.com it says the geo location
[16:05] <amari> http://www.ubuntu.com/ updated
[16:05] <Rene_> yeh thats why you might need to ask that website to look why your ip is blocked if it is in the usa, maybe they are using wrong settngs or you can get your ip unbanned
[16:06] <desperate_joe> hello...i've been here a few times already with the same problem, but up until now no help... so i hope today is different: HP laptop, dual boot (win7 and ubuntu 14) in win7 my homenetwork is ok, in ubuntu the same homenetwork for some reason is too slow to be workable almost every page is stopped loading due to timeout
[16:06] <ioria> wow
[16:06] <Pici> 70
[16:06] <EriC^^> Pici: why do you sometimes msg 70 randomly?
[16:06] <daftykins> desperate_joe: try alternate DNS servers such as Google's DNS service.
[16:06] <petrvs> desperate_joe: laptop model
[16:07] <Pici> EriC^^: because I forget to type the slash in /70 which is an irssi alias to go to window 70 (where I play trivia on IRC)
[16:07] <EriC^^> oh ok :)
[16:09] <daftykins> that too, was trivia
[16:09] <desperate_joe> hp pavilion
[16:09] <petrvs> 70, holy
[16:10] <petrvs> desperate_joe: how about the whole model #
[16:10] <petrvs> Pici: oooh yeah... trivia
[16:10] <reborn> has ubuntu mate release not yet?
[16:10] <desperate_joe> @daftykins? i'm a true noob... what do you mean with alternate dns servers?
[16:11] <petrvs> it's fairly unlikely your windows install is using different dns
[16:11] <k1l_> desperate_joe: you are talking baout wifi?
[16:11] <setre> Why is there no conkeror package in Utopic? :(
[16:11] <EriC^^> !info konqueror
[16:11] <desperate_joe> @kil, yes, sorry, wifi
[16:11] <EriC^^> setre: ^
[16:11] <desperate_joe> @petrvs... looking for the model
[16:11] <k1l_> desperate_joe: what wifi hardware is that?
[16:11] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to set a shorcut for Move window to workspace 1 to Shift+Alt+ctrl+1, but it does not work. Do you know what is wrong?
[16:11] <setre> EriC^^: not that. conkeror with "c"
[16:12] <setre> like i spelled it
[16:12] <petrvs> setre: because
[16:12] <setre> it's a keyboard focused web browser
[16:12] <petrvs> desperate_joe: should be on the bottom, or just under the screen's edge on the front
[16:12] <desperate_joe> the model is HP pavilion DV6.... i don't seem to find a sticker with more precise numbers
[16:13] <k1l_> setre: there was in 10.04. maybe thats dropped because there is no dev or no maintainer
[16:13] <desperate_joe> @klL... what do you mean with wifi hardware? how to know?
[16:13] <k1l_> desperate_joe: "lspci" will list the line for the wifi card
[16:13] <setre> i demand a support representative for Mark Shuttleworth foundation teleport themselves (or fedex) here right now and install conkeror on my machine.
[16:13] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to set a shorcut for Move window to workspace 1 to Shift+Alt+ctrl+1, but it does not work. Do you know what is wrong? I did not have any problem with setting of switch to workspace 1 to ctrl+alt+1
[16:13] <desperate_joe> DV6 6130sb (model laptop)
[16:14] <ObrienDave> setre, glwt
[16:14] <k1l_> setre: pay me one billion dollars and i will try to make that happen ;p
[16:14] <petrvs> desperate_joe: check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1962226 particularly the subsequent page/s
[16:15] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to set a shorcut for Move window to workspace 1 to Shift+Alt+ctrl+1, but it does not work. Do you know what is wrong? I tried other combinations too, like ctrl+f1. But it does not work. Any idea?
[16:15] <desperate_joe> 07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
[16:15] <desperate_joe> 0d:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030 [Rainbow Peak] (rev 34)
[16:15] <desperate_joe> is that the correct lines?
[16:16] <daftykins> mojtaba: you've come in here for years - you know NOT to repeat yourself.
[16:16] <petrvs> desperate_joe: first should be your ethenet, second your wireless
[16:16] <coolstar-chrome> desperate_joe:you have the Intel 1030
[16:16] <crint> tach
[16:16] <k1l_> setre: the conkeror project seemed dead from 2012 to 2014. so that seems like it got dropped because of that and no one started maintaining the package now
[16:16] <mojtaba> daftykins: I added some more info. :-P
[16:16] <jatt> was vivid released today?
[16:17] <Pici> jatt: indeed :)
[16:17] <Riddell> jatt: yep http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15.04
[16:17] <jatt> on my machine sudo do-release-upgrade says:
[16:17] <jatt> No new release found
[16:17] <coolstar-chrome> I have 2 wifi adapters on my school laptop, just to bypass my school's wifi restrictions xD
[16:17] <jatt> I'm using utopic
[16:17] <jatt> why?
[16:17] <setre> k1l_: perhaps you can help getting it maintained?
[16:18] <setre> or know how/where to ask
[16:18] <coolstar-chrome> jatt: I spoof mac address on one to join staff wifi. run hostapd on another to host a wifi network for my other devices
[16:18] <OerHeks> setre, iDue to the new Mozilla release schedule, Ubuntu kicked out Mozilla XULRunner and all its reverse dependencies (including Conkeror) in 11.04 Natty and later releases.
[16:18] <petrvs> coolstar-chrome: heh
[16:18] <philip_> please how can i install files which contains bin  COPYRIGHT  lib  LICENSE  man  plugin  README  release  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME-JAVAFX.txt  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt  Welcome.html
[16:18] <petrvs> desperate_joe: should be iwlwifi driver
[16:18] <k1l_> setre: sorry, i cant help. but you could start with filing a bug on launchpad.net
[16:18] <coolstar-chrome> about 2/3 of the students in my school run Ubuntu on the laptops
[16:18] <Rory> petrvs: did you read the file called README ?
[16:18] <coolstar-chrome> (mainly because Chrome OS sucks so much xD)
[16:18] <OerHeks> http://conkeror.org/InstallationDebian
[16:18] <desperate_joe> @petrvs... had a quick glance at your link, but the title says "no internet"... i have internet (the apps work ok), it is really my browser (i use firefox)
[16:18] <Rory> petrvs: It's literally called "read me"
[16:18] <setre> OerHeks: can you elaborate?
[16:18] <Rory> philip_: sorry my messages were intended for you, not petrvs
[16:18] <k1l_> setre: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[16:19] <desperate_joe> @petrvs... i have to type your command in my terminal then?
[16:19] <setre> OerHeks: I fail to see the problem, sorry
[16:19] <desperate_joe> iwlwifi?
[16:19] <petrvs> desperate_joe: too bad you didn't have a quick glance at my actual msg
[16:19] <petrvs> desperate_joe: no
[16:19] <OerHeks> setre, xulrunner is removed, so is conkerer. see http://conkeror.org/InstallationDebian
[16:19] <philip_> no
[16:19] <setre> k1l_: thank you
[16:20] <philip_> please how can i install files which contains bin  COPYRIGHT  lib  LICENSE  man  plugin  README  release  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME-JAVAFX.txt  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt  Welcome.html
[16:20] <setre> OerHeks: yes, but I don't understand how Mozilla's release schedule warrants package removal
[16:20] <petrvs> philip_: for what?
[16:20] <Rory> philip_: What are you trying to install?
[16:21] <setre> OerHeks: do you?
[16:21] <Tekkkz> hello
[16:21] <Tekkkz> can someh
[16:21] <philip_> i downloaded the application and trying to install the application
[16:21] <Tekkkz> can someone help me configuring udev rules for an arduino clone
[16:21] <Rory> philip_: What is the application? it may be available in the package manager
[16:21] <setre> OerHeks: thanks for the link though!
[16:21] <Tekkkz> the udev rule which works on arch likux doesnt work on ubuntu, the device is marked as busy then
[16:21] <OerHeks> setre, well, that is the info i have, did you read that conkerer page ?
[16:21] <ivan_on_trac> I use some text GUI applications. What is the name of a font. You can make the best appearance. Ubuntu server.
[16:21] <philip_> jre-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz
[16:22] <Rory> !java | philip_
[16:22] <setre> OerHeks: Yes I have looked at it
[16:23] <setre> OerHeks: not having packages loses the whole point of having a distro though
[16:23] <Pici> 70
[16:23] <reborn> Same system requirement, yes?
[16:23] <philip_> i have done that but still
[16:24] <desperate_joe> @petrvs let's start over, i'm at a loss... what is it you want me to do? i'm looking at your link, but don't understand which step to take, and the topic seems no internet, not "slow internet" ... i am at wifi now
[16:25] <smallfoot-> Thanks for 15.04, it is awesome! :)
[16:26] <nalmicore> Is there a way to force ubuntu to run a script when shutdown gracefully?
[16:26] <k1l_> desperate_joe: sorry, got distracted. it seems that this card you use is having issues with the n-draft thing and the linux driver
[16:26] <asta22> hello. what's it called that repository that has untested packages?
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> philip_  wgaqt does the readme file tell you to do?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> what*
[16:27] <philip_> it talks about the license
[16:27] <k1l_> nalmicore: anacron ?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> philip_  then simply install java from the repos, no need to use the tar you are using
[16:28] <desperate_joe> @klL... i have no idea what is the n-draft ... but the one million dollar question: can you guide me through it? or ... would it be advisable to actually install the 15 and hoping that the problem won't arrise there?
[16:28] <daftykins> boot a live session of 15.04 sure, but it's unlikely to solve your problems
[16:28] <daftykins> no need to go all the way through an install to find out
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !isitoutyet
[16:29] <k1l_> desperate_joe: its the "fast" wifi connection band.
[16:29] <zaggynl> my mouse stopped scrolling
[16:29] <zaggynl> xev doesn't show any input for scrolling up or down, rest of the keys work
[16:29] <k1l_> desperate_joe: try this one: http://askubuntu.com/a/533271/31260
[16:31] <mac33> is yet available 15.04?
[16:31] <k1l_> mac33: it is
[16:31] <mac33> thank you
[16:31] <desperate_joe> options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 wd_disable=1 .... so i just type this in my terminal?
[16:32] <k1l_> desperate_joe: no. put that in the file mentioned
[16:32] <k1l_> desperate_joe: "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf"
[16:32] <mac33> ubuntu 15.04 wayland or Xserver
[16:33] <k1l_> then drop that line into there. then ctrl+o for saving, ctrl+x for exit
[16:33] <k1l_> mac33: xserver
[16:33] <k1l_> mac33: wayland is not usable with desktops on daily business
[16:33] <mac33> I read something about wayland and I thought it was ready
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> !wayland | mac33 maybe you read this
[16:34] <k1l_> mac33: wayland ist kind of ready. but the desktops that use wayland are not ready.
[16:34] <mac33> ok+
[16:34] <petrvs> it'll be ready when it's ready
[16:35] <desperate_joe> i did the nano ... appeared a text... just at the line at the bottom? and then how to save?
[16:35] <k1l_> desperate_joe: at the bottom
[16:35] <desperate_joe> *just PUT the line at the bottom ...
[16:35] <k1l_> desperate_joe: re read what i wrote. is explained how to save in nano
[16:38] <desperate_joe> how to exit/save?
[16:38] <desperate_joe> i got disconnected... don't know if i missed some messages... i put the lines at the bottom... how to save/exit this screen?
[16:38] <mac33> bye to all.....I gonna try 15.04
 then drop that line into there. then ctrl+o for saving, ctrl+x for exit
[16:39] <fxmulder> I have a custom kernel installed, if I apt-get dist-upgrade will that override my custom kernel?
[16:39] <k1l_> fxmulder: remove the linux-generic package
[16:40] <sundev70> Anyone know a firewall/filter for internet traffic that would filter out windows viruses...wanted to pass through linux before going to windows virtual environment
[16:40] <sundev70> ?
[16:40] <desperate_joe> there are some commands at the bottom of the screen yes, ^x to exit, but it doesn't close
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> !av
[16:40] <wafflejock> desperate_joe, ctrl+o to save ctrl+x to exit
[16:41] <desperate_joe> ok, done
[16:42] <wafflejock> sundev70, basically can use clamav to scan for windows viruses, can use fail2ban to block IPs that are attempting/failing auth and the like based on scanning logs for failures
[16:42] <desperate_joe> now basic restart?
[16:42] <k1l_> desperate_joe: yes
[16:42] <admin3> how can i give have access to create new folder on my htdocs?
[16:43] <wafflejock> admin3, the user needs write permission or the group needs write permission and the user needs to be a part of the group, one of the two
[16:43] <desperate_joe> ok.... i'll see what it does... if i don't come back is because it works or because my wifi does not work anymor ;) ... thanks already for your patience!
[16:43] <admin3> i  am admin
[16:44] <wafflejock> admin3, if you are running as root then you can write anywhere and shouldn't have a problem using mkdir
[16:45] <admin3> in my htdocs how can i create coz i couldn't
[16:45] <wafflejock> admin3, need to see what command you ran and what error you got
[16:45] <wafflejock> !doesntwork | admin3
[16:46] <phpcoder> hello
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> admin3  what's the outcome of   groups
[16:46] <phpcoder> how can i upgrade my ubuntu to 14.10
[16:46] <phpcoder> and then to 15.04 ?
[16:46] <ht3k> phpcoder: You can do sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder  fresh install is faster, easier, cleanier... stick to 14.04 LTS is better
[16:47] <ht3k> phpcoder: Make sure your sources manager has "search for any new version" instead of "long releases"
[16:47] <phpcoder> ht3k, i am using 14.04
[16:47] <admin3> i have not the chance to make a folder in my htdocs (XAMP)
[16:47] <phpcoder> but if i do do-release-upgrade
[16:47] <phpcoder> there is nothing
[16:47] <k1l_> phpcoder: make sure the release-prompt is not set to "lts only"
[16:47] <ht3k> phpcoder: Check the option I just mentioned :)
[16:47] <phpcoder> ht3k, can i pass from 14.04 to 15.04 directly?
[16:47] <k1l_> !xamp | admin3
[16:48] <k1l_> !xampp | admin3
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder  you can't, have to go via 14.10
[16:48] <freak3> how sudo restart systemd-logind on 14.10?
[16:48] <admin3> ya lampp
[16:48] <freak3> restart: Unknown job: systemd-logind
[16:48] <freak3> any idea?
[16:48] <phpcoder> pardon but
[16:48] <phpcoder> 14.10 is using an older kernel then 14.04
[16:48] <phpcoder> is not a problem ?
[16:49] <ht3k> phpcoder: not if you're going to upgrade to 15.04 anyway
[16:49] <phpcoder> MonkeyDust, yeah i know but i have many programs configuration etc etc...i can not do a fresh install
[16:49] <ht3k> Gotta go restart, my release-upgrade is done!
[16:49] <phpcoder> ht3k, is it a big problem downloading new version in this way?
[16:49] <phpcoder> is a lot of better a fresh install ?
[16:50] <k1l_> phpcoder: you need to upgrade to 14.10 then to 15.04
[16:50] <phpcoder> k1l_, yes sure... i will upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04
[16:50] <k1l_> phpcoder: look at the system settings -> software and updates and set the release prompt to every release and not "lts only"
[16:50] <MrNumber3isme> Hello room
[16:50] <phpcoder> but is really bad do it ?
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder  then it's safer to stick to your release
[16:51] <phpcoder> k1l_, ok
[16:51] <phpcoder> but guys
[16:51] <k1l_> phpcoder: no its not bad to do.
[16:51] <MrNumber3isme> I need help with a permissions issue with my SD card. anybody game?
[16:51] <Caleb--> upgrading ubuntu like a bawss!
[16:51] <k1l_> phpcoder: but you need to upgrade every 6 months then
[16:51] <phpcoder> k1l_, yes not a big problem but
[16:52] <phpcoder> upgrading the system will decrease the performances?
[16:52] <phpcoder> is it better a fresh install ?
[16:52] <phpcoder> or does not change too much ?
[16:52] <pheelter> phpcoder: shouldn't be much of a difference
[16:52] <daftykins> those who have truly worked in IT don't believe in upgrades ;)
[16:53] <wafflejock> personally stick with LTS on my work machine and prefer doing clean installs when they release, backup my whole machine using Clonezilla and backup my /home folder to an external drive
[16:53] <k1l_> phpcoder: upgrading is fine.
[16:53] <phpcoder> k1l_, ok
[16:53] <daftykins> wafflejock: +1 to clonezilla's genius
[16:54] <newuser789> clonezilla or rsync ? for backup
[16:54] <wafflejock> daftykins, yeah I configured a 1TB external HD enclosure to boot with clonezilla it's pretty sweet
[16:54] <wafflejock> newuser789, rsync is better for regular file backups clonezilla is more like disk imaging saves it in tar.gz files that are harder to individually load
[16:55] <admin3> u can't help me for lampp?
[16:55] <newuser789> wafflejock: I mean in respect for backups of full encrypted disks
[16:55] <phpcoder> k1l_, do-release-upgrase is available for 15.04 ?
[16:56] <phpcoder> now i am upgrading to 14.10
[16:56] <pheelter> phpcoder: it is now
[16:56] <k1l_> phpcoder: yes. but you need to go to 14.10 first
[16:56] <daftykins> admin3: your first time administrating a web server?
[16:56] <wafflejock> newuser789, yeah for full disk backups clonezilla is nice, it's basically dd plus tar.gz and runs lshw and a few other things to get a few reports on the state of the machine when it was backed up, rsync has the ability to recover though so better for network based backups
[16:56] <phpcoder> do-release-upgrade will install it sequentially?
[16:56] <phpcoder> i mean 14.10  than 15.04 ?
[16:57] <MrNumber3isme> I need help with a permissions issue with my SD card. anybody game?
[16:57] <k1l_> phpcoder: no. it will upgrade to 14.10 then stops. then you make a reboot. then you do it again to go to 15.04
[16:57] <phpcoder> ok
[16:57] <k1l_> phpcoder: just give it a go. its not rocket science :)
[16:57] <Z3_> Hi. It's possible to install mir display server (a complete version for normal use) in Ubuntu 14.04 ? If not, will it be possible before Ubuntu 16.04?
[16:57] <ki7mt> pheelter, k1l_ FWIW - I would not recommend upgrading more that two stages e.g. 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 .. You'd be better off, in the long run, installing 15.04 directly.
[16:57] <newuser789> wafflejock: what I want is a backup of 1TB of internal HD backedup to an 1TB exteral enclosure, how to do it ? any pages or links ?
[16:57] <daftykins> MrNumber3isme: details?
[16:57] <phpcoder> k1l_, eheh ok
[16:58] <MrNumber3isme> When I plug my SD card in, it is automatically mounted as read only. happens with every SD card. the physical lock on the card is unlocked. using chmod does nothing for me. the only thing I've found with success is using mount --options remount,rwx /media/thomas/sdb1
[16:58] <wafflejock> newuser789, clonezilla is nice for the fact that it gives you a GUI and you can just boot it up on any machine and back it up/restore it even if it's not a linux machine
[16:58] <ki7mt> phpcoder, sri, that was for you not phee.. tab got me on that one.
[16:59] <k1l_> ki7mt: yes. if its about 3 updates you might be faster with a clean install. but on this case i think upgradeding twice is ok.
[16:59] <freak3> on 14.10, i did "sudo restart systemd-logind" but get error: "restart: Unknown job: systemd-logind" . How you fix this error?
[16:59] <ki7mt> phpcoder, k1l_, Only reason I say install 15.04 first, as that ill allow reaching 16.04 when it arrives.
[17:00] <rektide_> i've been using 3.19.0-10 and 3.19.0-14, and btrfs has corrupted my system such that it is unable to boot three times in three weeks
[17:00] <ki7mt> ..will allow ..
[17:00] <rektide_> has anything happened between the RC and release w/r/t btrfs?
[17:00] <JediMaster> hi guys, how can I run a command as www-data on 14.04 where the default shell is /usr/sbin/no-login? for example: su www-data /usr/bin/whoami returns: "This account is currently not available."
[17:00] <newuser789> wafflejock: but then how to restore clonezilla image ? you said its hard for individual images, further more the requirment is for fully encrypted disk, its different (backiup and recovery) than normal systems
[17:00] <wafflejock> newuser789, not really just the clonezilla site itself, which isn't anything to write home about http://clonezilla.org/ you just download the ISO though and burn it to a disk or google on how to setup a USB stick with clonezilla, personally I used Gparted to partition my external drive so I could have clonezilla on one partition it boots from and use the other partition for storing data from the internal drive, so I just have to
[17:00] <wafflejock>  boot off the external USB device
[17:01] <k1l_> ki7mt: nope. its not lts
[17:01] <wafflejock> newuser789, it gives you ncdu style menus for selecting if you want full disk or partition based backup or restore and then you select the target and destination and it pretty much handles the rest
[17:02] <wafflejock> newuser789, regarding the data being encrypted I don't believe it should make a difference what's in the blocks it's copying
[17:02] <newuser789> wafflejock: sounds easy but is it reliable ?
[17:02] <wafflejock> newuser789, yeah it's been around for a while and I've been using it for at least a few years without ever having a problem
[17:03] <OerHeks> rektide, btrfs is unstable
[17:03] <newuser789> OerHeks: me ?
[17:03] <wafflejock> newuser789, if something fails it lets you know and can do verification of everything if you so choose
[17:03] <jgoguen> I'm using network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome on Ubuntu 14.10. When connecting it pulls down a XML file that has, among other things, a list of what endpoints are available. Where does that file get stored?
[17:03] <ki7mt> k1l_, sorry I don't uderstand your meaning, what's not LTS ?
[17:04] <Arun_> guys, I needed to reinstall grub in my HD so that I can have dual boot my windos and linux, is there any small linux iso that I can use to update my grub fast ?
[17:04] <k1l_> ki7mt: 15.04 is not lts, so you need to upgrade to 15.10 and then to 16.04 when they are released
[17:04] <newuser789> wafflejock: ok, thnx. On second thoughts, what about about doing zsync on backups so that everything doesnt gets backed up everytime, just the changed/modified blocks
[17:04] <pheelter> Arun_: Just run boot-repair. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:05] <pheelter> Arun_: I mean, run boot repair on a Live CD after you installed/upgraded.
[17:05] <ki7mt> k1l_, Yes, of course, it would be 15.04 -> 15.10 -> 16.04 .. and all being on SysD.
[17:05] <MrNumber3isme> daftykins, any thoughts?
[17:05] <wafflejock> newuser789, haven't used that, for my regular backups I've just been using duplicity with the built in backup tool in Ubuntu Gnome, had used rsync before but never tried zsync
[17:05] <Arun_> pheelter, is it available for windows too? caiuse I have no linux iso available now.
[17:05] <Arun_> in my hdd, it was in ext4 partition
[17:05] <daftykins> MrNumber3isme: nope, remount seems like no hassle to me but not something i understand why is occuring.
[17:06] <pheelter> Arun_: Unfortunately, no. A CD/USB with a Live CD is required to automatically fix your dual boot for you after you installed the system.
[17:06] <wafflejock> newuser789, the duplicity program I believe is just doing incremental backups as well, but I don't really rely on it just have it there just in case, most of my actual important stuff is saved in git repositories
[17:06] <MrNumber3isme> arrrrghhh. Thanks anyway
[17:06] <ig0r_> the Ubuntu installer says "no root file system is defined". How do I define a root file system ??
[17:06] <Arun_> pheelter, ok , then I think I shall mount the ext4 partition to retrieve my iso
[17:06] <newuser789> wafflejock: so clonezilla will backup everything each time or it'd check for modified/newer blocks ?
[17:06] <freak3> how can i do this (https://help.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-help/power-closelid.html ) by command line
[17:06] <freak3> ?
[17:06] <wafflejock> newuser789, also setup an owncloud instance on digital ocean as a shared backup basically in place of DropBox cause we outgrew it and I'd rather run my own
[17:06] <k1l_> ig0r_: what install is it?
[17:07] <k1l_> ig0r_: do you use manual partitioning?
[17:07] <freak3> k1l_: hi
[17:07] <freak3> k1l_:  how can i do this (https://help.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-help/power-closelid.html ) by command line
[17:07] <wafflejock> newuser789, clonezilla is a straight full disk or full partition backup and the system can't be running, it's good for between big distro upgrades or right after getting a system stable
[17:07] <ig0r_> k1l_: yes I use manual partitioning
[17:07] <newuser789> wafflejock: throw some more light on it - owncloud, digital ocean
[17:08] <k1l_> ig0r_: then you forgot to mark one patition as be used for /
[17:08] <altin> We've launched a #Kickstarter for a #Hackerspace in #Kosovo - would you guys mind taking a look at it and sharing it? http://kck.st/1CVFoK4
[17:08] <SchrodingersScat> newuser789: I just started using duplicity for my /owncloud/
[17:08] <k1l_> altin: please no adverts in here.
[17:08] <ig0r_> k1l_: how do I do that in the installer?
[17:08] <pheelter> Arun_: It's worth the hassle. Better than trying to fix it yourself.
[17:08] <k1l_> ig0r_: its in the manual partioning process. just see the options you can sue there
[17:09] <newuser789> !owncloud
[17:09] <k1l_> *can use
[17:09] <wafflejock> newuser789, eh digital ocean is just a cloud hosting provider like amazon web services or google cloud or azure or whatever where you have some virtual server that you control, on DO they have 1 click installs and pretty cheap monthly servers like $5 or $10 OwnCloud is basically just an equivalent to DropBox except you run the server so your space is limited by how much server space you have
[17:09] <altin> k1l_: it's not an advert, but rather something good for the community :0
[17:09] <altin> :) *
[17:09] <Arun_> pheelter, yeah, I am gonna fix it now :D
[17:09] <pheelter> Arun_: Cool, enjoy.
[17:09] <newuser789> hmm
[17:09] <wafflejock> newuser789, plus side is owncloud you can control the user accounts a little better from what I've seen and you don't have to trust DropBox with their 1 key thing
[17:09] <SchrodingersScat> newuser789: oops, thought you were asking how to backup your owncloud, reading helped me here.  Note that owncloud is NOT a backup, just a sync.
[17:10] <newuser789> backing up to a cloud ? private, encrypted and secure ?
[17:10] <rektide_> OerHeks: no, Ubuntu is releasing a kernel with a known bad, non patched kernel
[17:10] <wafflejock> newuser789, basically I got to the point on DropBox that I had to pay them so figured I'd rather pay for a server and run it myself, and with a 1 click install there was no barrier to entry
[17:11] <rektide_> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas
[17:11] <wafflejock> newuser789, can be you need to get an SSL certificate if you don't have one though I already had one so just added the subdomain
[17:11] <rektide_> OerHeks: if this were a 3.19.5 release happening today, systems would not spontaneously self immolate themselves regularly
[17:11] <k1l_> rektide_: did you file a bug? what did the kernel team say about it?
[17:11] <rektide_> OerHeks: but thanks for chiming in
[17:12] <wafflejock> newuser789, like SchrodingersScat said though more of a sync solution than a true backup service
[17:12] <rektide_> i'm banned from ubuntu forums because i complained that the SSO system was painfully bad for me to use
[17:12] <wafflejock> newuser789, think Tarsnap is a pretty cheap offsite backup solution but haven't used it myself
[17:12] <rektide_> so i didn't get a chance to discuss this issue
[17:12] <jmaradin> really tough to decide between mate and gnome at this point, both are nice.
[17:13] <rektide_> i suppose i could just straight file a bug but i was rather hoping to interact with people first to get my ducks in a row
[17:13] <k1l_> rektide_: if this is an issue then yu should file a bug on launchpad.net
[17:13] <cperrin88> I tried to use ubunut as a central rsyslog server but when I send syslog data of multiple servers ( like 10 or more) rsyslog repeates the messages while writing them to the disk.
[17:13] <cperrin88> Can anyone help with that?
[17:13] <SchrodingersScat> wafflejock: i like the idea of tarsnap, but I think it was going to be ~$50/month for me, just to store it :/
[17:13] <wafflejock> SchrodingersScat, hmm rough how much data is that?
[17:14] <SchrodingersScat> wafflejock: thought that was for ~200GB
[17:14] <wafflejock> actually Amazon glacier is super cheap but also haven't tried using it for anything yet
[17:14] <Ryans1230> I am attempting to drag the iso file into Disk Utility on Yosemite and it won't drop and can't write to disk except through Finder. Any advice?
[17:15] <OerHeks> rektide_, found the bugreport https://lists.launchpad.net/kernel-packages/msg113945.html
[17:15] <OerHeks> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page#News
[17:15] <ParadoxHeart> Does any one know of a way to change screen resolutions in X from a terminal other than xrandr? I have a 4k display port 1.2 mst monitor and in order to get it to show up as one display, I needed to configure it with Xinerama and disable xrandr.
[17:16] <rektide_> "Bug Watcher Updater" says status went from Unknown -> Fix Released 3 hours ago for this btrfs bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1445252 . is there any way to see what was fixed?
[17:17] <rektide_> i'd like to ahve a kernel that doesn't self immolate the system
[17:17] <rektide_> i'm not sure where i go to get the fix though
[17:17] <wafflejock> SchrodingersScat, yeah if it can't get anything out of compression or deduplication that does seem about right
[17:18] <OerHeks> rektide_, fixed for debian, vivid is triaged, so they are working on it
[17:18] <cuddylier> Would anyone say this is slow for a 7200RPM harddrive in a dedicated server? http://pastie.org/pastes/10110026/text?key=n9abpof6wql0pcs7hvg5dg
[17:23] <wafflejock> SchrodingersScat, http://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/ <-- looks like tarsnap is basically upselling for ~10x the underlying storage cost, wonder if the compression and deduplication saves you more than that
[17:25] <oddman2236> Hello room
[17:25] <asta22> hello. how to install the newer libcurl in ubuntu?
[17:25] <JoeMorelloJM> howdy!
[17:30] <asta22> hello everyone. can someone please tell me, how do I install the newer libcurl in ubuntu?
[17:30] <asta22> or what's the name of those repositories that have the rolling release pakcages?
[17:31] <EvilCreep> What's the correct way to give www-data read/write access to a directory and a few files in a users home directory. I don't want web access to these files/folder just access to read and write to them via php scripts.
[17:32] <overclocki7> hi, i was wondering how one could overclock an i7 headless machine via software
[17:32] <ivan_on_trac> Does anyone know of a font text for tty console?!  Which is looking good frames.
[17:32] <overclocki7> I'm having trouble finding any setfsb tools for ubuntu
[17:33] <Guest1148> hello i have  prb when i want to open rar file with password  i try with rarcrack but they give me the same password and it dosen't work  i need help in this case
[17:33] <BluesKaj> overclocki7, why would you want to? this isn't 1998
[17:33] <overclocki7> @BluesKaj because I can't overclock via bios
[17:33] <marco__> ciao a tutti
[17:34] <IronicBadger> hello, would anybody here be able to assist me in compiling mhddfs please?
[17:34] <IronicBadger> http://svn.uvw.ru/mhddfs/trunk/README
[17:34] <BluesKaj> overclocki7, as if that's gonna make any difference in performance
[17:35] <overclocki7> @BluesKaj overclocking does make a difference in performance, which is why people do it
[17:36] <BluesKaj> not much anymore
[17:36] <Rory> Guest1148: unrar x -pPassword filename.rar
[17:36] <Rory> Guest1148: replace Password with the actual password
[17:37] <wafflejock> overclocki7, only if you're doing something that's actually eating the entire CPU it's really rarely necessary or a good idea (unless you're overclocking your raspberry pi or something, even then without any cooling failures happen)
[17:37] <ig0r_> I just downloaded and installed the latest Ubuntu release and I'm sorry but Mint is superior to Ubuntu (no trolling intended)
[17:37] <IronicBadger> ig0r_: i'll take the bait.... why?
[17:38] <ig0r_> IronicBadger: no bait just wanted to express my opinion.
[17:38] <overclocki7> @wafflejock I do use my entire cpu on a lot of heavy compute tasks (current cpu load is 8.42/8) which is why I am asking
[17:38] <wafflejock> ig0r_, better to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic if it isn't a support issue
[17:38] <IronicBadger> hello, would anybody here be able to assist me in compiling mhddfs please?
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> IronicBadger  ask your question and wait
[17:39] <wafflejock> ig0r_, sure your feedback if given in a reasonable way would be appreciated but try to keep this channel on support and less on opinions
[17:39] <zzxc> Hey does anyone know a good alerting system for new CVE or just general vulnerabilities?
[17:40] <ig0r_> I hear you wafflejock :)
[17:40] <overclocki7> @wafflejock also my cpu is watercooled so cooling failure is unlikely to happen- i just need to know how to bump up the fsb slightly
[17:41] <overclocki7> if it is even possible in linux
[17:41] <BluesKaj> overclocki7, perhaps the ppl at ##linux can help you
[17:42] <wafflejock> overclocki7, yeah have only done it in my bios I know there are some CPU governer things you can install but never really messed with it have just used the GUI tools for enabling power save mode and the like (can step down but not overclock)
[17:42] <cperrin88> If I send logs from more then about 10 servers to rsyslog it goes berzerk and repeats the last messages infinitily and writes them to the disk
[17:42] <BlueProtoman> How can I look at the information for my webcam?
[17:42] <BlueProtoman> Manufacturer, resolution, etc.
[17:42] <wafflejock> overclocki7, the raspi debian image has some tools built in to overclock the ARM processor in there too but not sure if it's applicable or what exact program it's using
[17:43] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman, lspci for built in lsusb for usb devices then look up the device id or manufacturer/model
[17:43] <overclocki7> @wafflejock not sure if that applies to me- i'm using an x86 processor and not an Rpi SoC
[17:43] <overclocki7> @BluesKaj thanks, i'll check it out
[17:43] <BlueProtoman> wafflejock...is there a GUI tool?
[17:44] <BlueProtoman> I just want to figure out if my camera is 8 megapixels or not
[17:45] <wafflejock> BlueProtoman, built in there's Cheese usually I install guvcview for more detailed control of the camera doesn't give much info about the hardware though
[17:46] <wafflejock> actually just started it from the command line looks like it does show the supported resolutions and such there
[17:47] <phpcoder> guys
[17:47] <phpcoder> i downloaded
[17:47] <phpcoder> ubuntu 15.04 for a laptop
[17:47] <daftykins> phpcoder: try and put it on one sentence please.
[17:47] <phpcoder> then i have installed fusoiso, how can i start it '
[17:47] <phpcoder> ?
[17:48] <phpcoder> *fuseiso
[17:48] <phpcoder> i need to start it like a "cdrom"
[17:48] <phpcoder> i just mounted it...then ?
[17:48] <daftykins> still spamming.
[17:48] <phpcoder> daftykins, pardon
[17:48] <jmacdonald> I apt-get updated nginx a few days ago and it appears to have overwritten the index.html file i had on a server... seems a bit odd that it didn't make a copy of my original one. thoughts?
[17:49] <daftykins> restore from backup
[17:49] <Guest1148> rory : thanks but i don't have passward i have rar file when i want toopen it it ask me for passward i need help
[17:49] <dbtid> so, I can't get the right time to show up on my dual-boot (win7, ubuntu 14.04) system.
[17:50] <jmacdonald> this isn't an important server, so recreating said index file isn't a night more. i'm more curious about why it may have happened.
[17:50] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, typically upgrades just update the binaries but don't install new configuration even then they rarely would modify your www folder but as daftykins said nothing to do but restore
[17:50] <dbtid> it thinks the clock is UTC, because it's showing NYC time as 9:54.
[17:50] <jmacdonald> ahem.. *nighmare*
[17:50] <dbtid> nothing on the web seems to fix this issue.
[17:50] <dbtid> any suggestions?
[17:51] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, if you are doing development just use a git repo for storing your code and make sure you regularly backup your server but in most cases a server upgrade shouldn't replace your /var/www files that said the last major upgrade for apache they moved the default from /var/www to /var/www/html
[17:52] <ki7mt> dbtid, What have you tried in order to resolve the tz issue?
[17:52] <jmacdonald> this is nginx. so /usr/share/nginx
[17:52] <jmacdonald> honestly this is just a home server that hosted a landing page for a bunch of other services.
[17:53] <jmacdonald> git is a good  idea, cause i don't really feel like setting up a backup for it.
[17:53] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, yeah either way typically a reinstall or an upgrade shouldn't be moving around your config files unless they had to change the format and should just be updating binaries
[17:53] <dbtid> i updated the tzdata files, and checked that /etc/localtime said "UTC=no"
[17:53] <dbtid> that's about it.
[17:53] <jmacdonald> yeah, it wasn't even config files that changed. it was an index.html file sitting somewhere.
[17:53] <dbtid> there's no adjustment in Unity's time/date settings.
[17:54] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, yup that's pretty shady, I typically still use Apache for most things, have played a bit with Ngnix but the small gains for me aren't worth changing over the configuration and replacing all the things done in Apache for redirects and compression and such
[17:55] <jmacdonald> Yeah, i sort of hucked it on the machine just as a taste test.
[17:55] <jmacdonald> and i think i was drunk at th etime.
[17:55] <ki7mt> dbtid, Go into unity search, typ time, select time && date, then on the GUI, click on the zone. or in the command line: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata  .. select, save, reboot.
[17:56] <dbtid> ok, i've done all that but the reboot.
[17:56] <dbtid> i forgot i'd done that.
[17:56] <phpcoder> how can u start an .iso mounted via fuseiso ?
[17:56] <dbtid> then i just have to reboot
[17:56] <dbtid> ki7mt: i'll let you know
[17:56] <dbtid> i have a long build running
[17:56] <dbtid> thanks;
[17:56] <jmacdonald> In other news... i just installed a linux desktop for the first time in 10 years on a laptop my boss recycled to me for tinkering with.
[17:56] <jmacdonald> came a LONG way :)
[17:57] <jmacdonald> wifi worked, all the werid touch volume buttons and youtube worked. i was smitten
[17:57] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, heh yeah it's been a good 10 years
[17:58] <jmacdonald> what apt incantation will tell me all files modified by a deb?
[17:58] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, people still seem to have quite a few video problems but wifi seems to be mostly a solved problem and all the desktop environments (Unity, Gnome, KDE, XFCE, etc.) are in pretty good shape
[17:59] <wafflejock> jmacdonald, dpkg -L packagename
[17:59] <jmacdonald> tankie.
[18:01] <phpcoder> someone ?
[18:02] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, how do you mean "modified" dpkg -L will tell you the status of the package but not necessarily "modified files?"
[18:02] <jmacdonald> well, i'd like to find out which package insatlled /usr/share/nginx/html/index.html
[18:02] <nullbyte_> how can i upgrade from apt-get to 15.04
[18:02] <EvilCreep> what is the correct way to give www-data read/write access to /home/Minecraft/server/playerdata so I can make changes to player's data with php/webpage? The Minecraft server runs under it's own limited account.
[18:03] <petrvs> nullbyte_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[18:03] <daftykins> EvilCreep: create a group, add both users to a group.
[18:03] <daftykins> *that group.
[18:04] <EvilCreep> I don't want www-data to have access to all of the Minecraft server account.. just that one folder.
[18:04] <nullbyte_> petris: i mean from console not with a GUI app
[18:04] <daftykins> EvilCreep: yes thus you change the ownership on that single folder.
[18:05] <jmacdonald> okay  it was nginx-common.
[18:05] <petrvs> nullbyte_: it says how from console as well
[18:07] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, That's not so easy actually, you can look at the packages here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/nginx  by clicking on the list-of-files .. but it is most likly the core or full and either the default index page or documentation.
[18:08] <jmacdonald> yeah it was common
[18:08] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, and yes, it was / is nginx-common : http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/all/nginx-common/filelist
[18:12] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, Im sure there's a devscript ( from the packaging tools ) that will pull apart the file-lists, I just dont knwo what it is off the top of my head, but would be good to know for CLI use.
[18:15] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, Ok, this may do it: sudo apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file list nginx-common  ... that should work.
[18:16] <jmacdonald> neato!
[18:16] <brunch875> 15.04 broke connecting to irc via account-plugin-irc :(
[18:16] <EvilCreep> daftykins: Could you give an example? I'm a little lost on the whole groups thing. Won't putting two accounts in the same group give them access to each other files?
[18:16] <brunch875> can't select the server
[18:16] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, But you need to know the package .. lol .. so, it's a pandora's box I guess.
[18:17] <curiousx> !party
[18:17] <ki7mt> jmacdonald, dpkg --listfiles nginx-common .. but again .. need the package name ... a bugger this one is.
[18:18] <daftykins> EvilCreep: no, because the files have to be set accordingly.
[18:19] <jnhghy> I'm running ubuntu 14.04 and I have apache and other services installed for while now but didn't used them, now I want to run a php file but it gets displayed in the browser rather then run (I actually see php code) what can cause this? apache is running...
[18:19] <EriC^^> jnhghy: did you install php?
[18:20] <brunch875>  ¿Does anyone know how to manually configure telepathy for IRC?
[18:20] <jnhghy> EriC^^: good question, I did it once but I might have unsintalled it at some point ??? how can I find that out? apt-get?
[18:20] <EriC^^> jnhghy: apt-cache policy php
[18:21] <EriC^^> jnhghy: apt-cache policy php-common
[18:22] <jnhghy> EriC: php and php-common was not found by policy but I also tried to install them and I get same not found...
[18:22] <ki7mt> jnhghy, You may want to install the LAMP stack .. it's pretty robust using tasksel, but does install MySQL also.
[18:23] <EriC^^> !lamp | jnhghy
[18:23] <EriC^^> jnhghy: sorry it's php5-common
[18:23] <jnhghy> EriC^^, ki7mt: thanks for helping
[18:26] <ghostly_monk> hi
[18:27] <petrvs> hi ghostly
[18:27] <wafflejock> jnhghy, did a walk through vid on setting up lamp and some extra tooling for various web dev stuff, jump points in the description since you don't need the vbox setup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNbsCTFrAA tasksel is nice too though
[18:28] <Blkzer0> herro
[18:29] <Blkzer0> anyone does server work?
[18:30] <petrvs> Blkzer0: #polls
[18:30] <Blkzer0> thanks
[18:32] <Blkzer0> theres no one there
[18:33] <daftykins> Blkzer0: yes plenty of people do server work, can you turn that into an Ubuntu question now? :)
[18:33] <Blkzer0> I need a recommendation for a crm server
[18:33] <petrvs> Blkzer0: you're there
[18:34] <daftykins> Blkzer0: yeah that is not an ubuntu support question
[18:34] <Blkzer0> im the only one there
[18:34] <Blkzer0> :(
[18:34] <Blkzer0> whats a good channel to ask on?
[18:35] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, That's a huge topic .. the server itself, Ubuntu Server is fine, what you choose as the CRM application is up to you, there are many choices.
[18:35] <petrvs> http://alternativeto.net/software/dolibarr/?license=opensource&platform=linux
[18:35] <Blkzer0> ok than what kind of linux server is best to run it on
[18:36] <OerHeks> Blkzer0, how about Ubuntu-server?
[18:36] <jmacdonald> Blkzer0 ask on reddit.
[18:36] <Blkzer0> i asked on reddit
[18:36] <Blkzer0> i have a time limit
[18:37] <petrvs> as ki7mt said, it hardly matters
[18:37] <petrvs> pick a distro you're familiar with
[18:37] <Blkzer0> this kind of stuff is not even my field of work
[18:37] <petrvs> if you're not familiar with one, pick one after researching a bit
[18:37] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, not being confrontational, but "best" is really a matter of need. A 1 man-band may not need much, 60K employees, may need allot of infrastructure. But this is all OT here.
[18:38] <ioria> /extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/source   ended
[18:38] <Blkzer0> i was asked by my friend who works for some insurance company
[18:38] <McLeod> hello people
[18:38] <ioria> or what ?
[18:38] <petrvs> Blkzer0: well
[18:38] <McLeod> In Xubuntu to install AMD Catalyst drivers i use the option "Generate Distribution Specific Driver Package" or "Install Driver 14.501.1003 on X.Org 6.9 or later"?
[18:38] <petrvs> Blkzer0: if they want a good solution, they should probably _pay_ someone who knows what they're doing to set it up
[18:39] <petrvs> not for nothin'
[18:39] <jmacdonald> Blkzer0 you should tell your friend you don't know and that you have no experince in that field. just be honest
[18:39] <Guest38623> Hey peeps, if you want to convert a windows person what distro do you reccomend and why?
[18:39] <McLeod> i have a lot of problems intalling privative drivers
[18:39] <jmacdonald> even if you gave him one of our answers you'd be doing  him a disservice.
[18:39] <petrvs> Guest38623: depends on the windows version they're used to
[18:39] <Blkzer0> i know but money is tough to get these days
[18:39] <OerHeks> Guest38623, obvious, ubuntu
[18:39] <daftykins> !ati | McLeod follow the guides here
[18:39] <Blkzer0> im not doing this alone
[18:39] <petrvs> Blkzer0: educate yourself, then
[18:39] <Blkzer0> lol thats a good one
[18:39] <petrvs> heh
[18:39] <petrvs> oh dear
[18:39] <Guest38623> Because Ubuntu (with unity) can be kind of slow, even on good hardware.
[18:40] <petrvs> I can see why money is tough to get then :/
[18:40] <petrvs> Guest38623: depends on the windows version they're used to
[18:40] <OerHeks> Blkzer0, there are more lightweight desktops, try Xubuntu
[18:40] <Guest38623> What do you think of Mate?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> Guest38623  it's realy nice to work with
[18:40] <petrvs> Guest38623: it's GNOME 2
[18:40] <OerHeks> err Blkzer0 sorry, not for you
[18:40] <petrvs> Guest38623: it's more like Mac OS, but you can configure it to appear much like Windows 2000-ish
[18:41] <petrvs> or "Windows Classic"
[18:41] <Guest38623> Its pretty similar in terms of UX to Windows
[18:41] <KeithWeisshar> Why am I not able to see any paid apps in the Ubuntu Software Center in 15.04
[18:41] <petrvs> you can also configure it to appear like 7 or 8
[18:41] <petrvs> probably with more effort (or more premade theme packs)
[18:41] <KeithWeisshar> when i switch to the for purchase page it's blank
[18:41] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, Your best approach, given the potential scale, would be to work with a CRM consultant, not Ubuntu support :-)
[18:41] <petrvs> Guest38623: it is, yes
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> and look like openSuse
[18:41] <Guest38623> I am actually installing it right now! Using the hexchat built in.
[18:41] <Blkzer0> i honestly am studying netsec, i dont know much about building servers or databases
[18:41] <Blkzer0> only breacking into them
[18:41] <petrvs> Guest38623: neat-o
[18:41] <Blkzer0> breaking*
[18:41] <KeithWeisshar> why are the for purchase apps not showing up
[18:41] <awal> Guys, there seems to be an issue with the trusty repositories.
[18:42] <dbtid> ki7mt: it's fixed now
[18:42] <dbtid> thank you
[18:42] <Guest38623> petrvs: Indeed
[18:42] <awal> http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/libmysqlclient18_5.5.41-0ubuntu0.14.04.1_i386.deb // is not accessible, though listed as a dependency for libmysqlclient
[18:42] <Blkzer0> i just thought that you guys might know something about this kind of deadl
[18:42] <Guest38623> What do you think of Arch.
[18:42] <ki7mt> dbtid, cool glad it's working.
[18:42] <Guest38623> xD
[18:42] <petrvs> Guest38623: it's another distro
[18:42] <KeithWeisshar> when i click on all software and then click for purchase it's blank
[18:43] <KeithWeisshar> why is the ubuntu software center not displaying paid apps
[18:43] <KeithWeisshar> or apps from partners
[18:43] <ki7mt> Blkzer0, I do, I've implemented several large scale CRM systems, my recommendation to you is, find a good CRM consultant :-)
[18:43] <Guest38623> petrvs: What if every distro is just based on windows running in a really good wine wrapper.
[18:43] <KeithWeisshar> why is it only showing software provided by ubuntu
[18:43] <petrvs> Guest38623: that'd be a fancy matrix indeed
[18:43] <daftykins> KeithWeisshar: you're going to want to stop repeating now.
[18:43] <petrvs> KeithWeisshar: what app are you looking for?
[18:44] <awal> umm, any ideas about my issue? I know I have just hopped in but the channel seems to be moving fast :P
[18:44] <Guest38623> Whats your problem Awal? Hang on.
[18:45] <KeithWeisshar> are paid apps only available on ubuntu devices
[18:45] <genii> awal: Did you do first: sudo apt-get update? The 5.5.41 version you are looking for which is not there has been superceded by version 5.5.43.
[18:45] <awal> Guest38623 trying to install libmysqlclient18:i386 on 14.04, and trusty repos return 404 :/
[18:45] <awal> ah, lemme tryr
[18:45] <ki7mt> KeithWeisshar, mostly, yes, unless you buy a product from the vendor directly.
[18:46] <Guest38623> Okay, well try update your repo's on your system. sudo apt-get update.
[18:46] <Guest38623> Perhaps if that fails you could download the tarball and compile from source ?
[18:47] <kostkon> KeithWeisshar, what version of ubuntu?
[18:47] <KeithWeisshar> 15.04
[18:47] <KeithWeisshar> 64-bit for pc
[18:47] <ki7mt> ^^ not wise to compile from source, unless you know what your doing.
[18:47] <ioria> awal http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libmysqlclient-dev
[18:48] <awal> ioria: I installed it, but skype is too adamant and wants the .41 version
[18:48] <ioria> oh
[18:48] <DJones> KeithWeisshar: Have you enabled the partner repositories in Software & updates on the other software tab?
[18:48] <kostkon> KeithWeisshar, ok, probably because it's new. Click on Edit -> Software Sources and enable all the repos, except Proposed. Do the same in the 3d part software tab as well.  Then hit reload, close the software centre and then maybe  check for updates, just in case, then reopen the osftware centre and search again
[18:49] <awal> seems like doing `apt-get update` did the job!
[18:49] <ioria> awal change the name and make it think that is .41 .. :P
[18:49] <Guest38623> Nice! It was that simple :P
[18:49] <awal> thanks a lot Guest38623!
[18:49] <Guest38623> Sometimes its the smallest things we overlook :) No problem.
[18:49] <awal> ioria: haha I actually was about to proxy those files :P
[18:49] <ioria> awal ^_^
[18:50] <Guest38623> I'm really starting to like Mate now.... Maybe too much. My only love has sprung from my only hate. :O
[18:50] <spoown> Hello everyone, is there someone from scotland ?
[18:51] <ki7mt> kostkon, KeithWeisshar sorry, forgot about using the SW center .. my bad.
[18:51] <Guest38623> spoown: I'm in the South of England, if that makes a difference....
[18:51] <Guest38623> spoown: whats your problem/question.
[18:54] <petrvs> spoown: yes I think some ones are from Scotland
[18:54] <ioria> spoown i love haggis, if it counts
[18:55] <petrvs> mmm haggis
[18:55]  * petrvs ponders vegetarian haggis
[18:56] <OerHeks> Strange animal, only living in Scotland, that Haggis
[18:56] <ioria> -*_*-
[18:58]  * EriC^^ googles haggis
[18:58] <daftykins> :D
[18:58] <ioria> we'll see this 3.19.0-15-generic how it moves
[18:58] <EriC^^> it looks photoshopped http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Wild_Haggis.jpg
[18:59] <EriC^^> best how i can describe it
[18:59] <EriC^^> is that for real?
[18:59]  * daftykins chuckles
[18:59] <brunch875> that's hillarious
[18:59] <ioria> it's not an animal it's a meal !!!
[18:59] <DJones> When did release date change to April 1st
[19:00] <petrvs> heh
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> it's mariah Carey
[19:00] <EriC^^> lol
[19:01] <ki7mt> DJones,  rel-date for what?
[19:02] <jabbott> I'm getting black bars around my terminal window and some things like the drop downs in firefox when upgrading to Kernel 4.0 for Ubuntu 14.04.  Does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it?  http://screencloud.net/v/b5SQ
[19:02] <DJones> ki7mt: I was refering to the comments about haggis and the animal, made me think todays date was April fools day
[19:02] <ki7mt> LOL oh .. Ok
[19:02] <petrvs> no need for levity but once a year
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> jabbott  kernel 4.0 may be beyond the scope of this channel
[19:05] <ioria> !info xchat
[19:05] <genii> spoown: For more casual discussion not directly related to Ubuntu support, #ubuntu-offtopic is the better channel
[19:05] <petrvs> !info hexchat
[19:07] <yxhuvud> so, I'm getting 'could not calculate the upgrade'. Anyone know how to find info about exactly what it is that make it fail?
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud  what method did you try?
[19:08] <ioria> yxhuvud, gui ?
[19:08] <yxhuvud> both gui and tui.
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud  did you get the iso from ubuntu.com?
[19:09] <ki7mt> may want to state, upgrade from what --> to what also
[19:09] <devicenull> Am I doing something wrong with debconf? https://gist.githubusercontent.com/devicenull/40c80e71bf8ce21bff1f/raw/3e443af8e83848c4a9bc8990c764cf257b79255f/gistfile1.txt
[19:09] <devicenull> I'm trying to update the cloud-init datasources, but dpkg-reconfigure seems to just reread what I have configured, and not actually update it
[19:09] <yxhuvud> monkey: do I need to? I have never needed that for earlier upgrades.
[19:09] <yxhuvud> ki7mt: from 14.10.
[19:10] <ioria> yxhuvud, you are updating directly from Updater ...
[19:11] <yxhuvud> ioria: yes, and I've also tried sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:12] <ioria> yxhuvud, i just upgraded 5 minutes ago in Lubuntu...
[19:12] <ioria> yxhuvud, but this is a test machine...
[19:13] <yxhuvud> my guess would be that it is the third-party graphics drivers that is the issue, but it would be nice to have a smoking gun
[19:13] <ki7mt> yxhuvud, what were the exact commands you used in the terminal to try the upgrade.
[19:14] <yxhuvud> in the terminal? sudo do-release-upgrade, just as I stated.
[19:14] <ioria> yxhuvud, the command do-release-upgrade tells no rlease found , also after changing release-upgrades ?
[19:15] <yxhuvud> not for me. it says "Could not calculate the upgrade " and gives some suggestions for where to look but without giving any advice for where to look
[19:16] <Bashing-om> yxhuvud: What returns ' grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' ? And is all 3rd party PPAs disabled ?
[19:16] <ioria> yxhuvud, check /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log
[19:17] <yxhuvud> ioria: ah, 2015-04-23 21:12:00,400 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> ioria  +1
[19:18] <ioria> MonkyDust i'm just an humble servant ....
[19:18] <OerHeks> ""Could not calculate the upgrade, An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. > This can be caused by:  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu, Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu or Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu "
[19:19] <yxhuvud> thanks. that problem seems googleable. I'll return if I get further issues
[19:19] <genii> yxhuvud: Sounds like you probably have stuff installed by PPAs or possibly manually
[19:19] <EriC^> yxhuvud: try sudo apt-get -f install
[19:19] <ioria> yxhuvud, in Synaptic Pac Man there is a tool to fix it ... i think
[19:19] <ioria> yxhuvud, and also in Grub
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud  are you using alot of ppa's?
[19:20] <yxhuvud> genii: some of both. it was a real struggle getting the graphics card to work.
[19:20] <yxhuvud> monkeydust: a few.. mostly for aurora and modernized graphics driver.
[19:20] <ioria> yxhuvud, right ... you should remove ppa (not the program) for do-r-up
[19:21] <OerHeks> use the driver tool to reverse to the standard driver
[19:21] <MonkeyDust> yxhuvud  outcomment the ppa sources (not delete them), then apt-get update and retry to upgrade
[19:23] <kostkon> yxhuvud, you might need to purge the ppas as a last resort, not just disable them
[19:24] <kostkon> !ppapurge
[19:25] <Thete> This purple has got to go
[19:29] <nokio> Hi all, quick question is someone already did something similar. Can i use wget to wget a page on my website that has some javascript. and in turn i would be able to grep and build a list of url that are hit/generated by hitting that page?
[19:30] <nokio> Like a wget --spider or -m of that page but that would be able to do the javascript part
[19:30] <nokio> if i make any sense
[19:30] <ki7mt> yxhuvud, y-ppa-manager .. a bit ironic, as it's also a PPA, is a good tool for manging PPA's : linky: https://launchpad.net/y-ppa-manager
[19:30] <petrvs> nokio: you can manage that, it's not quite as simple as wget alone though
[19:31] <petrvs> nokio: what is it you want from the JS?
[19:31] <PooCocktailSupre> yohohoho
[19:31] <petrvs> & a bottle of rum
[19:31] <PooCocktailSupre> about how long does it take 15.04 to make it to the servers
[19:31] <PooCocktailSupre> w0000000t
[19:32] <nokio> petrvs well when i call the page it's some generic php code which that part is fine. That call a leaflet to get a list of tile to show on the screen (im playing with tile server). I want to be able to get a list of tile that are asked on that page so that i can use those direct url to do some benching :p
[19:32] <nokio> the leaflet thing is the .js thing
[19:33] <petrvs> PooCocktailSupre: not there already?
[19:33] <petrvs> nokio: you can probably just grep from wget for that
[19:34] <codezomb> just installed 15.04 my sounds cards are detected, and test buttons work. However, nothing else in the system will play sounds. Changing volume doesn't help, and I've checked to make sure it's not muted.
[19:34] <codezomb> the devide is Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series/C220 Series Chipset High Definition Audio Controller
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> codezomb  did you use alsamixer, in terminal?
[19:35] <codezomb> anyone have any ideas?
[19:35] <codezomb> MonkeyDust: I've checked it, I see automute is on but I cannot change it
[19:36] <nokio> petrvs, i must be missing something. when i open the page and look at the source code it is exactly what i get from wget. But, if i open the develop consol i can see the png that are loaded and their url.
[19:36] <ioria> codezomb, what you mean ?
[19:37] <codezomb> MonkeyDust: disabled automute just now with no results. I've also restarted alsa
[19:37] <PooCocktailSupre> software updater has nothing for me
[19:37] <yxhuvud> yay. purging the mesa ppa seems to work. thanks again!
[19:37] <codezomb> ioria: by what?
[19:38] <PooCocktailSupre> ahh never mind
[19:38] <ioria> codezomb, 'I cannot change' ...
[19:38] <codezomb> ioria: I was able to change the automute. So that's not the issue :/
[19:38] <codezomb> I thought maybe it was interfering
[19:39] <codezomb> System Settings -> Sound -> Test Sound (I get sound here)
[19:39] <codezomb> however I don't get sound anywhere else
[19:39] <petrvs> nokio: right.. wget is not a JS interpreter
[19:39] <petrvs> nokio: however one doesn't usually need a complete JS interpreter to extrapolate what ones want from a JS source
[19:39] <nokio> petrvs would you know of a tool that could do that ?
[19:41] <tehcereal> hello im having trouble installing ubuntu on my laptop :S
[19:41] <petrvs> nokio: I could probably come up with one if I needed, but again, one rarely needs
[19:41] <tehcereal> i tried 14.04 and after the installation when i reboot i get an compiz related issue
[19:42] <tehcereal> i get to login and after i try to login it sits for few seconds only the background showing and returns me to the login
[19:43] <tehcereal> i tried the newest 15.04 and the same thing happened but without the error pop up
[19:43] <tehcereal> :S
[19:43] <tehcereal> i never had any issues with ubuntu and kubuntu i installed yesterday worked without problems
[19:44] <tehcereal> what could the problem be ?
[19:45] <maku_> Hi! Where can I get the public PGP key to verify this? http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/SHA256SUMS.gpg
[19:45] <codezomb> this is interesting... When clicking test on either front-left or front-right I get sound playing from other sources... So for example, if I have a video playing in firefox, and hit from left I get sound.                                                                                                                                                                       │
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[19:45] <codezomb> wtf
[19:45] <codezomb> bah, stupid terminal. sorry about the paste
[19:46] <nokio> petrvs i will look into that thanks
[19:46] <ioria> tehcereal, you can't login ?
[19:47] <tehcereal> yes i tried multiple times with different tools to make a bootable usb and the md5sum matches
[19:47] <ioria> tehcereal, can you pass to a terminal alt+ctrl+f2 ?
[19:48] <tehcereal> ioria, on 14.04 lts yesterday i got an error after the first reboot it was a compiz related error
[19:48] <tehcereal> today i tried with 15.04 and the same thing happens
[19:48] <ioria> tehcereal, can you pass to a terminal alt+ctrl+f2 ?
[19:48] <tehcereal> i didnt try
[19:49] <tehcereal> what would you suggest?
[19:49] <ioria> tehcereal, if you don't have a shell  we can't check anything...
[19:50] <ioria> tehcereal, pass to terminal
[19:51] <tehcereal> ioria, im in booted in windows right now
[19:51] <tehcereal> tell me what should i check for :D and ill restart and then report back
[19:51] <ioria> tehcereal, i think it's not the right place ... :)
[19:52] <ioria> tehcereal, boot in linux, i'd say
[19:53] <tehcereal> let me install an irc client on my other machine first :D
[19:54] <tehcereal> then we will be good to go btw thx for the help ioria
[19:54] <ioria> tehcereal, but now i'm going away... check your .Xauthority file in home, should be owned by user, then restart lightdm or gdm with sudo service restart... and then lspci -v and check your video card
[19:56] <ioria> tehcereal, compiz is tied to video card
[19:56] <tehcereal> ioria, thx will check
[19:56] <ioria> tehcereal, good luck mate
[20:02] <splitwire> bye
[20:03] <MENOTU> testing123
[20:03] <MENOTU> anyone awake?
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> MENOTU  works, we see you
[20:03] <MENOTU> yay!
[20:05] <xavi_> Buenas, estoy intentando recuperar el Grub
[20:05] <sjmikem> so how long do you guys normally wait before updating your everyday machine to a new release
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> !es
[20:05] <xavi_> thx
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> sjmikem  i wait two years (lrs only)
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> lts*
[20:06] <Inoki> Congratulations to the Ubuntu team on the new release. :)
[20:06] <sjmikem> MonkeyDust: that's a long time :-)
[20:07] <MENOTU> I'm happy with ubuntu. working on going windowless. :)
[20:07] <SchrodingersScat> sjmikem: month or two
[20:08] <Edir127> Hi
[20:09] <brunch875> I like how the webapps thingy with firefox works again
[20:09] <Edir127> I have a problem with 15.04
[20:09] <brunch875> and how lenses like grooveshark appear again
[20:09] <Edir127> It won't install on my laptop (but will on mY desktop)
[20:10] <Edir127> It freezes right before the OS detection.
[20:10] <Edir127> Totally frozen, can't even move mouse
[20:10] <Edir127> There's no partitions on the HDD
[20:10] <Edir127> Only grub
[20:11] <Edir127> Is there a help channel for Ubuntu?
[20:11] <xavi_> Hi all, i want to repair mi grub
[20:12] <Edir127> Hi
[20:13] <xavi_> i have an SSD with W10, W7 and ubuntu and the W system erase mi grub, can i repair o i have to intall the ubuntu another time? also i have an mbr hd, th eSSD is an GPT, are compatibles?
[20:14] <daftykins> !grub | xavi_
[20:14] <compyuser> hello, please help no soun in ubuntu with via 1724 chip
[20:14] <Edir127> Is there anyone listening willing to help me?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> !patience | Edir127
[20:14] <Edir127> OK.
[20:15] <compyuser> hello, please help no sound in ubuntu with via 1724 chip
[20:15] <xavi_> thx ubottu
[20:15] <Edir127> I *think* that's a bot
[20:15] <Bashing-om> Edir127: The laptop is it UEFI and is secure/fast boot disabled ?
[20:15] <Edir127> It is not UEFI
[20:15] <xavi_> thx daftykins
[20:15] <chrisss123456> hey guys, super simple question: i want to update to 15.04 (woo!) but the update manager says there's nothing new, and so i'm stuck on 14.04. anyone know how to deal with that?
[20:16] <Edir127> I used to have 14.04 installed perfect
[20:16] <Edir127> Chriss
[20:16] <Edir127> Go into system settings
[20:16] <Edir127> Then software and updates
[20:16] <Edir127> Go to updates tab
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Edir127: $ primary partitions maxed out ? as in dual booting Windows, and Windows using all the partitions ?
[20:16] <chrisss123456> Edir127: ok done, and then?
[20:17] <Edir127> I am not attempting a dual boot, and there are currently no partitions on the drive
[20:17] <Edir127> Then
[20:17] <Edir127> You
[20:17] <Edir127> Change the bottom box to
[20:17] <daftykins> chrisss123456: you can't go 14.04 -> 15.04
[20:17] <Edir127> 'Any release'
[20:17] <daftykins> chrisss123456: you must go to 14.10 first
[20:17] <bazhang> Edir127, dont use enter as punctuation
[20:17] <Edir127> Sorry
[20:18] <chrisss123456> daftykins: ok, i guess it'll do them in order? or do i have to do it manually?
[20:18] <Edir127> In order, chriss123456
[20:21] <Edir127> I tried upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10 (so I could go to 15.04) but it failed because power was lost during the process. I tried doing a clean install of 15.04, but it always crashes immediately before the prompt to overwrite existing OSs. The exact same media works on another PC. Deleting all partitions from the drive made no difference, but an old 12.04 disc I have does not crash at that point.
[20:22] <chrisss123456> ok great! thanks so much!
[20:22] <Edir127> No problem
[20:23] <daftykins> Edir127: dd zero the first 100MB of the drive then try again perhaps
[20:23] <chrisss123456> also, another question: i have a porsche hard drive, and i can't write on it for some reason. i tried finding stuff online but maybe im just not understanding how to fix it. does anyone know how to make it writeable?
[20:23] <Edir127> How can I do that?
[20:23] <k1l_> chrisss123456: porsche harddrive?
[20:24] <chrisss123456> k1l_: sounds posher than it is: https://www.lacie.com/uk/products/product.htm?id=10559
[20:24] <Edir127> daftykins: How can I do so?
[20:24] <daftykins> Edir127: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=2M count=50
[20:24] <k1l_> chrisss123456: ah, that is just a "designed" external hard drive. well, put it into usb port and see what dmesg tells you about it
[20:24] <daftykins> where sdX is the disk in question
[20:24] <Edir127> daftykins: Thankyou
[20:27] <compyuser> please help no soun in ubuntu
[20:28] <chrisss123456> k1l_: dmesg gives out a lot.. what would i look for in particular
[20:28] <k1l_> !paste | chrisss123456
[20:28] <daftykins> the bit at the end when you plug in the drive, chrisss123456
[20:29] <Edir127> daftykins: Your solution to my problem did not help (unless I need to reboot)
[20:29] <_guest_> hello folks, is unity 2D/unity fallback still in the repos?
[20:29] <chrisss123456> daftykins: k1l_: when running dmesg, i get more text than the terminal can show... am i doing something wrong?
[20:29] <k1l_> _guest_: no
[20:29] <Edir127> _guest_: No,
[20:29] <_guest_> darn
[20:29] <bazhang> !notunity
[20:29] <daftykins> Edir127: well what are you trying, installing 15.04 again?
[20:30] <bazhang> !info gnome-panel
[20:30] <Edir127> daftykins: yes
[20:30] <k1l_> chrisss123456: no. dmesg lists all messages from the system beginning from boot time. just schow us tha last 20 lines
[20:30] <kjdro> hello, can anyone help me with VSFTPD SFTP SSL configuration ???
[20:30] <Edir127> daftykins: what I find odd is that 12.04 works
[20:31] <daftykins> Edir127: you'd have to at least restart the installer
[20:31] <k1l_> _guest_: gnome (which is the base under unity7) uses llvmpipe for 2d rendering with cpu since some time. that is what gnome and unity uses
[20:31] <Edir127> daftykins: good point xD
[20:31] <chrisss123456> k1l_: ah i understand. here they are :http://pastebin.com/zZnzW784
[20:31] <aaanderse> hi i can't seem to find a link to the alternate installer for the new ubuntu version... any help?
[20:31] <kjdro> i have been trying to configure svftpd on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS server  since weeks and i can't seem to find a fix anywhere
[20:32] <kjdro> sroyy it's vsftpd
[20:32] <DJones> aaanderse: There hasn't been an alternate installer for quite a few releases, if you want a text based installer to can use the minimal installer
[20:32] <k1l_> chrisss123456: so its hfsplus on that external drive? the mac files system?
[20:32] <bazhang> aaanderse, there is mini only, no alternate
[20:32] <DJones> !minimal | aaanderse
[20:32] <chrisss123456> k1l_: that may be the case. i did use this for a mac computer before switching
[20:33] <aaanderse> DJones: if in documentation if i want to install raid i need alternate installer... that means mini now?
[20:33] <chrisss123456> k1l_: do you suggest formatting the drive then?>
[20:33] <k1l_> chrisss123456: well, hfsplus is a pain. i am not familiar with making that work.
[20:33] <DJones> aaanderse: I don't know, I've not installed in a raid format
[20:33] <aaanderse> DJones: ok, thank you
[20:34] <daftykins> aaanderse: yes it does, or server afaiui
[20:34] <k1l_> chrisss123456: yes.
[20:34] <chrisss123456> k1l_: bugger. alright, thanks so much for the help! :)
[20:34] <k1l_> chrisss123456: i would use ntfs on external drives anyway so you can use that drive on windows machines when needed.
[20:35] <Edir127> daftykins: I rebooted and the problem persists.
[20:35] <chrisss123456> k1l_: so between fat32 and ntfs you would suggest ntfs? howcome?
[20:36] <k1l_> chrisss123456: no 4gb limit :)
[20:36] <Edir127> Fat33 generally has better compatability with obscure devices but NTFS fragments less
[20:36] <Edir127> 32*
[20:36] <chrisss123456> k1l_: very true. Edir127, fair. thanks :)
[20:36] <petrvs> ntfs supports larger files
[20:36] <timfox123> Hello.  I am having a real problem installing the VMWare tools for the current Ubuntu LTS.  How do I get the Iso and mount it in a VMWare Esx environment ?
[20:36] <k1l_> and on usb2 the slower speed from ntfs doesnt matter anyway :)
[20:36] <petrvs> but it's a lot worse in some ways, heh
[20:37] <daftykins> Edir127: hrmm that's me out of ideas then. don't suppose you've got another disk to try in it? :)
[20:37] <petrvs> there's also no proper fsck for ntfs in Unix land
[20:37] <Edir127> Well, the 12.04 disk works. The 15.04 USB drive I am using works flawlessly on my desktop.
[20:37] <compyuser> please help no sound in ubuntu
[20:38] <daftykins> Edir127: i refer to HDD/SSD.
[20:38] <aaanderse> daftykins: great! just grabbed it and looking good so far...
[20:39] <Edir127> daftykins: No, I do not. Perhaps I could remove the HDD and put another USB drive in, would it detect that instead (if it works I know the HDD is at fault)
[20:40] <daftykins> Edir127: yep, or run driveless
[20:40] <Edir127> Ok
[20:42] <reborn> anyone can tell me about this ? http://i.imgur.com/snmcnnq.png
[20:43] <k1l_> reborn: its a optimizing thingy for the cpu microcode. you need to enable it manually since its a prop. code.
[20:44] <kjdro> Pls HELP i have been trying to configure svftpd on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS server  since weeks and i can't seem to find a fix anywhere
[20:45] <kjdro> Pls HELP i have been trying to configure vsftpd on Unbuntu 14.04 LTS server  since weeks and i can't seem to find a fix anywhere, the connection says login OK but i can't actually log in to the sftp
[20:45] <Edir127> daftykins: With the HDD removed, the problem persists
[20:45] <ikonia> kjdro: whats the actual problem ?
[20:45] <daftykins> Edir127: weird!
[20:46] <bekks> kjdro: sftp isnt configured by vsftpd, but by openssh.
[20:48] <kostkon> reborn, it's a good thing, install it
[20:48] <reborn> what's is exactly this?
[20:48] <kjdro> ikonia: Trying to configure SFTP access to chrooter users, i'm trying to connect using wnscp and also total commander sftp connection. So far, the log in ubuntu shows that login OK for my IP, but on the other side, the connection is refused
[20:49] <daftykins> reborn: a support chat channel
[20:50] <kjdro> bekks: i know, i think there might be a problem with pam ..... but i couldn't fix this... or find any hint to what's actually wrong
[20:50] <ikonia> kjdro: "on the other side" ?
[20:50] <ikonia> it either logs in - or it doesn't
[20:50] <kjdro> bekks: in total commander i get something like this: SSL_read returned -1, SSL_get_error=1 OFFLINE2, error=0 SSL_read returned 0, SSL_get_error=5, ERR_get_error=0
[20:50] <kostkon> reborn, patches parts of you cpu on-the-fly at boot time with bug fixes, better performance etc
[20:51] <bekks> kjdro: Which port are you trying to connect to?
[20:51] <kjdro> ikonia: windows, from where i try to connect to the sftp
[20:51] <ikonia> kjdro: so a.) ssh will act as an sftp server b.) are you sure you've configured vsftpd to listen on the right ports
[20:52] <okrusty> hey, i just updated to 15.04 and am seeing an undefined symbol error when starting pulseaudio... anyone have a solution to this?  pulseaudio: symbol lookup error: pulseaudio: undefined symbol: pa_inotify_start
[20:52] <kjdro> ikonia: i followed all the guids, pl;us i had a configuration that was working on the previous ubuntu LTS, and it's not working on 14.04
[20:52] <bekks> kjdro: Which port are you trying to connect to?
[20:52] <kjdro> *guide's
[20:52] <YvesLevier> Wouldnt be out of topic : My heart is yelling this : I hate windows
[20:52] <Edir127> daftykins: When I was updating to 14.10 and the power was lost, I rebooted and allowed dpkg to carry on where it left off; the only part of the upgrade that remained undone was 'cleaning up'. Upon a further reboot, grub went into grub rescue. I can't remember the error message. The even weirder thing is that the drives can be r/w'd to absolutely fine in 15.04's 'Try Ubuntu'
[20:52] <kjdro> bekks: port 20, and passive sftp connection
[20:52] <daftykins> YvesLevier: yes it's childish and doesn't belong here.
[20:53] <bekks> kjdro: sftp uses port 22.
[20:53] <kostkon> okrusty, apt-get clean then  apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade
[20:53] <reborn> do i have to reboot after install that?
[20:53] <YvesLevier> daftykins: in other words : Thx to hold our Ubuntu community :)  (sorry for the "hate")  will pay attention.
[20:54] <kostkon> okrusty, then if nou believe it is needed apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:54] <kostkon> reborn, reboot and it your cpu will get patched, and every time you reboot
[20:55] <kostkon> minus it8
[20:55] <kostkon> it*
[20:55] <Edir127> daftykins: I just remembered that I had a password set in grub, and when grub updated, some settings were lost and I was unable to log into it. Then, trying to install 15.04 and failing, then a reboot, that is when I got to grub rescue
[20:56] <kjdro> bekks: i know, it's not port problem, on ubuntu /var/log/vsftpd.log i have confirmation of LOGIN OK
[20:56] <bekks> kjdro: You are constantly mixing things up. Either you are using SFTP (which uses ssh which uses port 22), or you are using ftp(s) which can be done by vsftpd, which uses port 20 and 21.
[20:57] <bekks> kjdro: sftp is not done by vsftpd.
[20:57] <ikonia> vsftpd can do it
[20:57] <bekks> ikonia: Really?
[20:57] <ikonia> yeah
[20:57] <bekks> ikonia: TIL. :)
[20:57] <ikonia> but why would you....
[20:57] <bekks> ikonia: :D
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> what's "til" mean?
[20:58] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Things I Learned.
[20:58] <k1l_> *today
[20:58] <bekks> :D
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> onigi (oh, now i get it) ;)
[21:00] <maku_> Where can I obtain the public signing key of Canonical used to sign hashes?
[21:00] <araaragot> Greetings.
[21:00] <kjdro> bekks: apparently ssh broke, now it de-connects me even from remote ssh  so i gues... will continue some other time... DAMN....
[21:00] <kjdro> so good night... and thx !
[21:01] <kostkon> okrusty, if you've upgraded, definitely do a dist-upgrade
[21:01] <araaragot> When I try to make a new bootable usb with startup disk creator is says Failed to install boatloader. What do I do?
[21:02] <Edir127> daftykins: I'm going to call it a night, I'm too tired to pursue this further today.
[21:02] <okrusty> kostkon, thanks - i'll give that a try
[21:03] <maku_> araaragot: I get that if I don't type admin password soon enough after the creator prompts it
[21:03] <araaragot> Not really, I type the password and it still fails to install the bootloader.
[21:04] <araaragot> I tried doing it from root, but same deal.
[21:06] <GR4> hui
[21:07] <escargotdu25> hi ! are ioria and kll connected ?
[21:07] <CASADO45> SEX
[21:07] <petrvs> escargotdu25: /wii k1l_
[21:07] <okrusty> kostkon, that fixed it.  thanks
[21:08] <escargotdu25> hi petrvs
[21:08] <petrvs> hi
[21:08] <GR4> its quite interesting, i didnt know, how big is this channel yet :D nice surprise
[21:09] <escargotdu25> i have now downloaded a new version of ubuntu (14.04) and can use libreoffice and vlc to read audio cds
[21:10] <k1l_> escargotdu25: alright then :)
[21:10] <escargotdu25> petrvs and kll thanks a lot for your help
[21:10] <petrvs> gj
[21:11] <kostkon> okrusty, np
[21:12] <escargotdu25> kll i am still a novice but i hope to learn more about ubuntu and how to use it
[21:13] <k1l_> escargotdu25: wich 14.04 you got 5 years support now. so you dont run in the problems like you did with 12.10. that is a good start now
[21:15] <zerowaitstate> df -h
[21:15] <zerowaitstate> oops
[21:15] <Juje> Can someone help me with a error regarding udev?
[21:15] <escargotdu25> kll thanks just a question : i can't use instant messageries yet like pingin or amsn or emesen i can't configure these apps
[21:16] <myslite> test
[21:16] <myslite> quelqu'un voit ce que j'écris?
[21:16] <escargotdu25> myslite oui
[21:16] <bazhang> !fr | myslite
[21:17] <myslite> Okay thanks, I'm new and I wonder how can I join an other server/chat, somebody can help me?
[21:17] <k1l_> myslite: "/join #channelname"
[21:18] <myslite> Thanks
[21:19] <escargotdu25> kll i'm in the same situation as mslite
[21:25] <EvilCreep> Ugh been at it for over an hour.. Google isn't helping... Can someone explain how the group permission systems works. How do I give user "www-data" read/write permission to folder /home/Minecraft/Minecraft/server/playerdata (and all files and future files) which is owned by user "Minecraft"?
[21:26] <sigpipe> is there a way to file bugs on apport without apport installed?  i was trying to file another bug on a headless server and it seems apport-cli is the recommended program, but it 'apt-get install apport' fails
[21:26] <EvilCreep> I get chmod... change the permission of a file for the current user but don't have a clue how to give access not ownership to a folder or file to another user.
[21:26] <Kottizen> Hi everyone! I'm trying to install Kubuntu 15.04 to my SSD disk, but the installation gets stuck at "Creating ext4 file system for / [...]". What should I do?
[21:27] <AndrewMC> EvilCreep: Check out chown... that'll let you change ownership and groups to a file/folder
[21:27] <daftykins> Kottizen: try partitioning manually first.
[21:27] <Kottizen> daftykins: I've tried both manual and guided partitioning in the installation guide. Should I try something else?
[21:27] <EvilCreep> I don't want to change ownership I need that folder and it's files to remain owned by "Minecraft" but I would like to access those files via apache/php.
[21:28] <Kottizen> daftykins: It might be worth noting that I am devoting my entire SSD to Kubuntu, so the setup isn't difficult.
[21:28] <daftykins> Kottizen: i'm getting at using gparted to make them, then simply use them
[21:28] <EvilCreep> Maybe the SSD is in RAID mode in the BIOS.
[21:28] <Kottizen> daftykins: I'll give it a try, thanks.
[21:28] <Kottizen> EvilCreep: Thanks for the suggestion, but it isn't.
[21:28] <AndrewMC> EvilCreep: ... can you change the group safely? As in, get the users that need access into a group then give that group, group ownership
[21:29] <Ben64> EvilCreep: ACLs
[21:29] <daftykins> EvilCreep: seriously you're still on this? give a pastebin of "ls -al /path/that/is/relevant/"
[21:30] <michael__> test
[21:31] <Guest26881> when i install ubuntu 15.04 i have a problem i cant restart and shotdown my laptop
[21:31] <Guest62075> Wow! Hello everybody
[21:31] <Guest26881> pleas help me!
[21:32] <Guest26881> when i install ubuntu 15.04 i have a problem i cant restart and shotdown my laptop!!! yy???
[21:32] <_Trullo> then always keep it on!
[21:33] <h00k> Guest26881: you can't restart it, why? Are you getting any particular error?
[21:33] <Kottizen> daftykins: Looks like it's working! At least it is copying.
[21:33] <daftykins> huzzah!
[21:34] <Guest26881> no no i just cant reastart when i want to restart my laptop hang
[21:34] <gabe_> hello
[21:34] <gabe_> does anyone here play minecraft
[21:35] <petrvs> probably someone
[21:35] <EvilCreep> I do..
[21:35] <machdohvah> test
[21:35] <Ben64> machdohvah: please test things elsewhere
[21:36] <bazhang> !test
[21:36] <Guest26881> I've just installed ubuntu 15.04 on my laptop (Asus N56JR).
[21:36] <Guest26881> I noticed that when i click on reset/shutdown my computer freezes and it wont turn off. I waited for too long, But nothing happened. I also install nvidia-340 [propreitary] driver on my system alongside nvidia-settings-server for switching between Nvidia and Intel, but after rebooting, It went to low graphics mode and after loging into my account it went to black screen and everything freezed. I even couldn't go to tty mode.
[21:36] <Guest26881> My laptop has no such problems with kernel 3.13, but in 3.19, it seems like it can not use my laptop's nvidia graphics card and just works on Nouveau display driver.
[21:36] <Guest26881> I really need a fix for this issue, cause my laptop is much faster and smoother on kernel 3.19.x but it lags on 3.13 .
[21:37] <cheus> Hi. I upgraded to 15.04 today and now cannot join wireless networks. This looks like some kind of permissions issue with network manager since the frontend is available but I'm not allowed to save changes to it or input a network password.
[21:37] <maku_> Ok, I ran a /dev/zero on a USB device, succesfully created a startup disk, yet I get this error during boot:
[21:37] <maku_> "gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image"
[21:37] <EvilCreep> daftykins: So you want a pastbin of the output of ls on the desired directory?
[21:37] <TiK> Guest26881: so use the old kernel
[21:37] <maku_> oh, the USB drive was FAT32 formatted
[21:37] <machdohvah> So, am I to understand that 15.04 is available and the users who install it already having problems with it?
[21:38] <Guest26881> I've just installed ubuntu 15.04 on my laptop (Asus N56JR).
[21:38] <Guest26881> I noticed that when i click on reset/shutdown my computer freezes and it wont turn off. I waited for too long, But nothing happened. I also install nvidia-340 [propreitary] driver on my system alongside nvidia-settings-server for switching between Nvidia and Intel, but after rebooting, It went to low graphics mode and after loging into my account it went to black screen and everything freezed. I even couldn't go to tty mode.
[21:38] <Guest26881> My laptop has no such problems with kernel 3.13, but in 3.19, it seems like it can not use my laptop's nvidia graphics card and just works on Nouveau display driver.
[21:38] <Guest26881> I really need a fix for this issue, cause my laptop is much faster and smoother on kernel 3.19.x but it lags on 3.13 .
[21:38] <daftykins> EvilCreep: yep, though if we continue at this rate i will likely be asleep before we can find a solution.
[21:38] <Ben64> Guest26881: don't paste so many lines at once, and wait like 15+ minutes before repeating
[21:39] <daftykins> Guest26881: did you include nvidia-prime ?
[21:39] <daftykins> Guest26881: also what model nvidia graphics...
[21:39] <Guest26881> yess
[21:39] <Guest26881>  I also install nvidia-340 [propreitary] driver
[21:39] <daftykins> Guest26881: i didn't ask for that part because i read it the first time.
[21:40] <maku_> ok, looks like I solved the COM32R image error, (hit tab + enter 'live' and press enter)
[21:40] <Guest26881> y i cant restart my system on ubuntu 15.04?
[21:41] <daftykins> Guest26881: fair enough if you can't answer my questions i can't help :)
[21:41] <machdohvah> Is Guest26881 a bot?
[21:42] <Guest26881> im not bot
[21:42] <machdohvah> ok
[21:42] <EvilCreep> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10874401/
[21:42] <Guest26881> i use intel grafic driver :(
[21:42] <machdohvah> I just installed 14.04 and I have no problems. I have a baby tower
[21:43] <Guest26881> can u help me pleas i use intel default grafic driver on ubuntu 15.04 and i cant reastart and power off my system :(
[21:44] <machdohvah> 14.10 was giving me a hassle
[21:44] <Ben64> machdohvah: if you just want to chat and stuff, you should do that in #ubuntu-offtopic ... this channel is for support only
[21:45] <machdohvah> OK
[21:45] <machdohvah> bye
[21:45] <daftykins> EvilCreep: right so create a group, add www-data and Minecraft to it, then change that folders ownership with "sudo chown  Minecraft:groupname /path/* "
[21:45] <galigan> I just have an issue with my usb3 ports and an usb3 hdd... can someone help me?
[21:46] <daftykins> EvilCreep: sudo addgroup groupname ; sudo adduser www-data groupname ; sudo adduser Minecraft groupname
[21:46] <Guest26881> daftykins can u help me? i asked ur quastion
[21:46] <Guest26881> i answerd*
[21:46] <daftykins> Guest26881: no because you have two separate questions and still haven't provided the information i asked for.
[21:47] <Guest26881> daftykins but my quastion is only about restart problem on ubuntu 15.04
[21:47] <daftykins> Guest26881: trying to nag me for assistance is a great way to get ignored.
[21:48] <Guest26881> daftykins madaret jendast?
[21:49] <daftykins> Guest26881: attempting to insult someone in another language is not a clever move. goodbye!
[21:53] <galigan> I just have an issue with my usb3 ports and an usb3 hdd... can someone help me?
[21:53] <bekks> galigan: That depends on the issue...
[21:53] <galigan> it doesn't work
[21:54] <galigan> if i plug an usb2 hdd it works... but not for usb3
[21:54] <bekks> galigan: Are you using a USB3 cable, too?
[21:54] <galigan> yes
[21:56] <pr0tlogic> I am trying to install ubuntu and I have raid 10 setup, but the installer does not recognize the logical drive, I am using the alternative installer.
[21:57] <bekks> pr0tlogic: Which RAID controller do you have?
[21:58] <pr0tlogic> Not raid controller, it's on the motherboard, I am trying to look up the board now.
[21:59] <cellis> hello
[22:01] <daftykins> pr0tlogic: are you talking about mini.iso when you say 'alternate installer' ?
[22:02] <petrvs> cellis: hi
[22:05] <maku_> damn, the FDE password prompt of 15.04 is still black occasionally after boot
[22:06] <bekks> maku_: Whats the "FDE password prompt"?
[22:06] <daftykins> full disk encryption
[22:06] <sigpipe> maku_:  i had the same problem.  on my system if i remove "splash" from the kernel command line i can see the prompt
[22:07] <EvilCreep> daftykins: Ran the commands and it looks like it works but I can't get a peep out of php when trying to access files in that directory.. no errors or output..
[22:07] <daftykins> rest might be down to learning PHP / web server admin
[22:07] <daftykins> i gotta go, nn
[22:07] <EvilCreep> thanks for the help
[22:08] <daftykins> np
[22:08] <amgadhs> hello
[22:09] <petrvs> 'lo
[22:09] <kostkon> 'o
[22:09] <petrvs> '
[22:09]  * petrvs wins!
[22:09] <maku_> sigpipe: thanks, I'll look into it
[22:10] <pr0tlogic> I am trying to install ubuntu and I have raid 10 setup, but the installer does not recognize the logical drive, I am using the alternative installer.
[22:10] <pr0tlogic> The machine im using is http://sellout.woot.com/offers/hp-quad-core-desktop-w-12gb-ram-2tb-hd-1
[22:10] <nillawafer> pr0tlogic: By alternative installer, do you mean you are using the mini.iso?
[22:10] <pr0tlogic> No, I mean alternative as in the debian installer and not the unity one.
[22:11] <pr0tlogic> The ubuntu site calls it "alternate installer"
[22:11] <petrvs> pr0tlogic: might want to use debootstrap for a real special setup
[22:11] <MichaelTiebesl> hey hello, will the spec from 15.04 also move to 14.04?
[22:12] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, spec?
[22:12] <brainwash_> specification
[22:13] <petrvs> brainwash_: classic
[22:13] <MichaelTiebesl> kostkon: i mean in 14.04 there is a combination from gnome 3.10 3.12 right and in 15.04 there is 3.14
[22:13] <brainwash_> vanilla?
[22:13] <petrvs> pr0tlogic: how much was that?
[22:13] <pr0tlogic> it was super cheap, I bought it a while ago
[22:13] <nillawafer> pr0tlogic: So what version of Ubuntu are you trying to install? I could be wrong, but I don't believe that an "alternate install cd" has been created since Ubuntu 12.04.
[22:14] <pr0tlogic> I tried 12.10 and LTS
[22:14] <MichaelTiebesl> kostkon: so will 14.04 also get gnome 3.14 after a while?
[22:14] <bekks> pr0tlogic: Which LTS?
[22:14] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, no
[22:14] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, if you want 3.14 the only option is 15.04
[22:15] <pr0tlogic> 14.04.2 LTS
[22:15] <MichaelTiebesl> kostkon: same as with kernel?
[22:15] <MichaelTiebesl> kostkon: okay thanks
[22:15] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, no
[22:15] <pr0tlogic> when was 15.04 released?
[22:16] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, the situation with the kernel is different  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[22:16] <k1l_> pr0tlogic: today
[22:16] <pr0tlogic> thought so.
[22:16] <nillawafer> pr0tlogic: I don't believe an "alternate install cd" exists for Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.
[22:16] <pr0tlogic> cool I am going to give it a try
[22:16] <pr0tlogic> maybe it will solve my issue
[22:16] <pr0tlogic> nill: no it does it
[22:17] <pr0tlogic> does not.
[22:17] <pr0tlogic> i was using 14.04 for that
[22:17] <pr0tlogic> not 12.10 my mistake
[22:18] <nillawafer> pr0tlogic: Definitely the 3.19 kernel included in 15.04 is going to support more hardware. Give 15.04 a shot and see what happens.
[22:18] <petrvs> pr0tlogic: yeah but in dollars, heh
[22:18] <MichaelTiebesl> kostkon: thanks for the link
[22:18] <kostkon> MichaelTiebesl, np
[22:19] <talsamon> hallo: 15.04/i386: /dev/zram0: Swap-Header konnte nicht gelesen werden (Swap header could not read); mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB - whats to do?
[22:19] <pr0tlogic> thanks all for the help
[22:19] <pr0tlogic> sexy as usual :)
[22:19] <wafflejock> MichaelTiebesl, have had moderate success updating to newer versions of gnome using PPAs but no one really can support your system with custom PPAs if you have problems
[22:20] <Tin_man> so, is this 15.04 supposed to show up in the {Software Updater}? or ??? i've downloaded the 64bit ISO to test. I was under the impression that it was going to be in the updater..
[22:20] <MichaelTiebesl> wafflejock: i tried to avoid ppa
[22:20] <MichaelTiebesl> wafflejock: i use ppa only for kodi and picard
[22:20] <wafflejock> MichaelTiebesl, as you should just throwing it out there
[22:21] <MichaelTiebesl> wafflejock: im downloading it now...lol
[22:21]  * [n0mad] refuses to add gnome ppas to this install
[22:21] <MichaelTiebesl> wafflejock: but i thought when it will move to 14.04 i better can stay with the 14.04 then
[22:22] <wafflejock> MichaelTiebesl, yeah I have my laptop I use for work stuff so I don't mess around with PPAs unless I absolutely need something (rare if ever) and tinker around on my desktop I use for gaming here or there
[22:23] <wafflejock> so think I install 3.16 on there for Gnome to see some of the fancy animations but looking forward to the changes to the bottom drawer thing being moved into the notifications panel and some other things coming down the pipeline
[22:23] <MichaelTiebesl> wafflejock: i have a xbox for gaming, pc is more other things. but same with me that i dont mess around with ppa
[22:24] <sigpipe> Tin_man: if you originally installed a LTS release, you may not be prompted to upgrade to 15.04 unless you change the settings to suggest non-LTS versions
[22:25] <Tin_man> just read it on the website, just changed it. Thanks..
[22:34] <jack_guru> I am trying to run spotify on 15.04, but it complaints that libgcrypt.so.11 is missing. I tried installing libgcrypt11 but apparently it's not there. Any ideas? I'd like to avoid installing the deb from another release/distro
[22:34] <Dragostini> Ah
[22:34] <Dragostini> I JUST DID THIS jack_guru
[22:34] <Dragostini> download and install this; one sec
[22:35] <Dragostini> http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgcrypt11/libgcrypt11_1.5.4-2ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb
[22:35] <Dragostini> That'll solve your issue right away.
[22:35] <Dragostini> Im running 15.04 myself.
[22:36] <jack_guru> thanks Dragostini! No way to get it from the repos? That's sad.. I will install this :) Thanks!
[22:36] <Dragostini> You probably could from here deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu utopic-updates main
[22:36] <Dragostini> :)
[22:36] <talcite> hi guys. I'm trying to debug something in a docker instance but I don't have access to a native ubuntu install. Can someone check for me whether buildbot-slave exists in the vivid repos?
[22:37] <talcite> It's listed on packages.ubuntu.com but I can't find it with apt-cache search
[22:37] <bazhang> !find buildbot-slave
[22:37] <Dragostini> jack_guru: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic-updates/amd64/libgcrypt11/download
[22:37] <jack_guru> Dragostini, I just wanted to avoid it, but whatever :) I got spotify working again! Thanks!
[22:37] <Dragostini> That has links to other mirrors, and the info for the repo
[22:37] <Dragostini> np
[22:38] <talcite> hmmm. Thanks. I guess it's the docker image that has an issue
[22:41] <Tin_man> I'm gathering that in order to upgrade to 15.04, you have to have 14.10 upgrade 1st..
[22:41] <bekks> Tin_man: When having 14.04, you are right.
[22:43] <Rex_> help
[22:43] <Rex_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute/?version=14.04.2&architecture=amd64
[22:43] <Rex_> why is it am64?
[22:43] <Rex_> amd
[22:43] <jnoob22> looking....
[22:43] <nillawafer> Rex_: amd64 means that the binary packages have been compiled to run on 64-bit systems
[22:43] <Rex_> oh thanks
[22:44] <jnoob22> just think x86_64
[22:44] <jnoob22> same thing really.
[22:44] <jnoob22> hmm does anyone compile all of their linux packages anymore? I haven't seen anyone do that in ages.
[22:44] <Tin_man> thats what i just figured out , cause my first upgrade came up 14.10.. so this will take some time.. :)
[22:45] <wafflejock> jnoob22, typically people who are building most everything from source I believe use arch
[22:45] <phpcoder> so fist opinions? how this 15.4 is going? :D
[22:45] <jnoob22> ok, didn't know arch did that either (like the old LFS or gentoo, etc)
[22:45] <Rex_> hi
[22:46] <wafflejock> jnoob22, I still end up compiling things here or there to check out the latest or to work around a bug but no reason to be compiling things all day when canonical distributes debs already built and tested
[22:46] <wafflejock> jnoob22, yeah pretty sure the AUR is for source to build from, not positive on that but that's the gist I got, still haven't done a full arch install myself
[22:46] <jnoob22> wafflejock, exactly. i do the same usually to test out some features with Python and our software here at work.
[22:47] <jnoob22> sadly, i am no longer interested in that stuff.
[22:47] <nogoodnamesleft> About to install Vivid - anything to be aware of?
[22:47] <jnoob22> kernel hacking and that like.
[22:47] <brainwash_> nogoodnamesleft: read the release notes which should point you to the "known issues" section
[22:48] <jnoob22> i wish urls like http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ would auto-complete on the right end for available uri's ... i almost started typing release... there.
[22:49] <jnoob22> kinda defeats the purpose of security by obscurity.
[22:50] <jnoob22> nogoodnamesleft, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues
[22:51] <orakar> Checking IRC client. Can people read this?
[22:51] <nogoodnamesleft> jnoob22: brainwash_ Thanks.
[22:51] <petrvs> orakar: nope, it's all in greek
[22:51] <orakar> petrvs: ;-) thanks
[22:52] <petrvs> :p
[22:52] <nogoodnamesleft> I have a multi-gpu & multi-monitor system and installation is never smooth for me. We'll see!
[23:01] <XposWinU> How can I generate a Freenode room list text file, from terminal?
[23:02] <tr3nton> Is there any pros cons to installing packages in a one command vs installing packages in a line for each package. e.g. apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 vs apt-get install pkg1 apt-get install pkg2
[23:04] <acz32> XposWinU: i don't think that's possible
[23:06] <XposWinU> acz32: I think you're mistaken.
[23:11] <skinux> Is EHCP a good control panel to install on Ubuntu??
[23:12] <petrvs> there are no good hosting control panels
[23:12] <petrvs> they're all unmaintained and full of security problems
[23:12] <petrvs> (only slightly) sad, but true
[23:13] <talsamon> second try: mkswap: error: swap area needs to be at least 40 KiB;zram-config.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=255/n/a;Failed to start Initializes zram swaping - something to do , ignore - what is to do
[23:14] <talsamon> on 15.04
[23:15] <nogoodnamesleft> boot time hasn't changed
[23:16] <XposWinU> How do I generate a Freenode room list text file, from terminal?
[23:16] <petrvs> XposWinU: you could run '/list' while logging is on
[23:16] <petrvs> but you'll regert it
[23:16] <petrvs> and even regret it
[23:18] <nogoodnamesleft> When I install with LVM, it always automatically partitions the entire disk. How do I leave some space unallocated?
[23:19] <XposWinU> petrvs: Why would I regret it? and how does that result in me having a text file?
[23:20] <petrvs> you'll just have to try it and see =)
[23:20] <petrvs> you won't regret it more than 5 minutes, it's not like it's an implementation of stab-over-ip
[23:21] <skinux> petrvs: Well, there are commercial cPanel, DirectAdmin, Plesk which are obviously maintained.
[23:21] <petrvs> doesn't make them secure =)
[23:21] <petrvs> if you're going to use something insecure, I recommend not paying for it
[23:22] <Bashing-om> XposWinU: In your status window do ' /help list ' . For what will result if/when you do .
[23:22] <skinux> Well, I'm not going to pay for any control panel, except ones that come with hosting I purchase.
[23:22] <petrvs> that's um... okay then
[23:22] <EriC^^> XposWinU: do you have xchat?
[23:23] <XposWinU> petrvs: What a trollish thing to say.
[23:23] <skinux> However, I meant if EHCP is a good control panel, since i know that WebMin totally doesn't go with Ubuntu.
[23:23] <XposWinU> EriC^^: Yes I have xchat
[23:24] <skinux> I use HexChat since XChat isn't maintained.
[23:24] <urvink> Any word on Google Drive integration into Ubuntu?
[23:24] <eshiffob> Guys, I need help
[23:25] <Bashing-om> !ask | eshiffob
[23:25] <nogoodnamesleft> Oh great. In Legacy BIOS mode, the Vivid live installer won't boot. In UEFI mode it boots but won't see other operating systems.
[23:25] <EriC^^> xchat makes a nice list
[23:25] <petrvs> urvink: there are apps for it here and there
[23:25] <blee> if i have multiple interfaces set using different dns_nameservers
[23:25] <blee> how does ubuntu figure out which one to use?
[23:26] <rex_> hi
[23:26] <rex_> i need help
[23:26] <rex_> installing ubuntu server in vmware for ssh
[23:26] <rex_> i dont know how to install it as simple..
[23:26] <petrvs> rex_: as what?
[23:26] <rex_> for ssh
[23:26] <eshiffob> I have compiled Scilab 5.52 from source an Ubuntu 14.4. It compiles successfully, but I cannot run the binary. It gives me: /usr/local/bin/scilab-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libpcreposix.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[23:26] <petrvs> blee: what're their names now?
[23:26] <eshiffob> I have compiled Scilab 5.52 from source an Ubuntu 14.4. It compiles successfully, but I cannot run the binary. It gives me: /usr/local/bin/scilab-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libpcreposix.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".
[23:26] <rex_> its complicated
[23:26] <rex_> ubuntu desktop is easier
[23:27] <eshiffob> What do I do? I am a noob, so don't bite, please.
[23:27] <eshiffob> 5.5.2
[23:27] <talsamon> no answer to the zram-error ?
[23:27] <urvink__> petrvs: But nothing official from Google itself? They have promised the client some time ago NO?
[23:28] <petrvs> urvink__: did they? I'd not heard anything like that
[23:28] <rex_> Ay help?
[23:28] <petrvs> I'm sure their client would be inferior to a wholly open source derived one, anyway
[23:28] <rex_> petrvs:
[23:28] <eshiffob> Guys
[23:29] <rex_> ?
[23:29] <eshiffob> I have compiled Scilab 5.52 from source an Ubuntu 14.4. It compiles successfully, but I cannot run the binary. It gives me: /usr/local/bin/scilab-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libpcreposix.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory".
[23:29] <eshiffob> Any ideas?
[23:29] <urvink__> petrvs: Yea I believe so too, but the community have yet to get anything halfway decently working, if im not mistaken.
[23:29] <petrvs> eshiffob: use apt-file to see what package provides that
[23:29] <[n0mad]> grive works fine for me for google drive
[23:29] <petrvs> eshiffob: if it's on your system, make sure you've told scilib where to look for it
[23:29] <[n0mad]> not seen any issues
[23:29] <petrvs> eshiffob: or cheat and use a symlink
[23:30] <petrvs> yeah grive worked fine for me
[23:30] <petrvs> want to try https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse sometime
[23:30] <petrvs> 'cause fuse is wonderfulness
[23:30] <rex_> petrvs:
[23:30] <petrvs> also we need one for google music, because that allows a lot more than a measly 15GB
[23:30] <petrvs> on the order of TB or PB, IIRC
[23:31] <rex_> boot loader is required?
[23:31] <eshiffob> petrvs Thank you. Doing it now ;p
[23:31] <EriC^^> XposWinU: hold on i'll give you a list in a min it's still counting but it's almost done i think
[23:31] <rex_> grub boot loader
[23:31] <petrvs> rex_: pretty much, yes
[23:31] <rex_> it shout me; install grub boot loaoder to the master boot record?
[23:31] <EriC^^> XposWinU: do you want it sorted by alphabetical order or user's joined?
[23:32] <petrvs> rex_: yup
[23:32] <netameta> Anyone knows how can you create a virtualBox instanse on ssd for ubuntu ?
[23:32] <petrvs> netameta: same as on any other disk
[23:33] <[n0mad]> dang, that reminds me i need to setup my virtualbox sometime
[23:33] <petrvs> or do you mean booting a bare-metal install from inside a VM?
[23:33] <cuddylier> Anyone know how I find the RPM of a drive if a smart test doesn't show it?
[23:34] <cuddylier> On some of my drives a smartr test shows it
[23:34] <petrvs> I wonder if lshw/hdparm/sdparm say
[23:34] <rex_> i dont know my localhost login
[23:34] <rex_> i fucked
[23:34] <nogoodnamesleft> i get "Missing parameter in configuration file. Keyword: path; gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image" when using a vivid-64 live USB on a machine with BIOS instead of UEFI
[23:34] <rex_> Please help
[23:34] <petrvs> rex_: your what?
[23:34] <rex_> it login
[23:35] <petrvs> rex_: it what?
[23:35] <rex_> and i need details
[23:35] <rex_> in terminal
[23:35] <nogoodnamesleft> Ah you have to open the menu and use the menu to boot it. Tht's lame.
[23:35] <rex_> :(
[23:35] <rex_> im restarting
[23:35] <petrvs> rex_: what's it asking for?
[23:35] <rex_> user and pass
[23:35] <rex_> localhost :/
[23:35] <rex_> thats a server
[23:36] <rex_> probably dint setup it correct?
[23:36] <rex_> :(
[23:36] <rex_> i hate server
[23:37] <eshiffob> petrvs Still nothing
[23:37] <eshiffob> Where do I find this library?
[23:38] <rex_> u dont
[23:38] <Wug> rex_: localhost is the computer you're currently using.
[23:38] <Wug> you should be able to login to it with your own username and password
[23:38] <bazhang> rex_, thats not helpful
[23:38] <eshiffob> Then what do I do to start Scilab?
[23:38] <rex_> well
[23:38] <rex_> yes
[23:38] <rex_> im in vmware with ubuntu 64 bit
[23:39] <petrvs> eshiffob: apt-file
[23:39] <eshiffob> Finds nothing
[23:39] <petrvs> rex_: you can just accept almost all of the defaults
[23:39] <petrvs> rex_: moreso if you're using a VM, there is no risk
[23:39] <rex_> i will reinstall
[23:39] <rex_> it on start open a menu and i had to configure it :(
[23:40] <rex_> coudlnt find a tutorial in google
[23:40] <eshiffob> I did "sudo apt-file search libpcreposix.so" on it and it only finds "libpcre3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcreposix.so.3
[23:40] <eshiffob> libpcre3: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcreposix.so.3.13.1
[23:40] <eshiffob> libpcre3-dbg: /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcreposix.so.3.13.1
[23:40] <eshiffob> libpcre3-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcreposix.so
[23:40] <eshiffob> "
[23:40] <[n0mad]> cuddylier: what about this cat /sys/class/block/sda/device/{model,vendor}
[23:40] <cuddylier> I found: hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep Rotation
[23:40] <[n0mad]> you may have to change the drive but then you have the model and can see. if you're trying to see what it performs at, then maybe something else
[23:40] <eshiffob> petrvs Ever faced the issue before?
[23:40] <rex_> he did
[23:41] <petrvs> eshiffob: sure
[23:41] <[n0mad]> oh, yeah that shows me what mine is
[23:41] <petrvs> eshiffob: try symlinking where it's looking to one of those
[23:42] <rex_> i have like execute a shell/ detect and mount cd room/ choose language
[23:42] <MichaelTiebesl> hi there, where to find the md5sum from iso 15.04?
[23:43] <MichaelTiebesl> sorry i got it:http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/MD5SUMS
[23:43] <petrvs> =)
[23:44] <Umeaboy> I had to switch to a different mirror to see the release of Vivid.
[23:44] <Umeaboy> How come=
[23:44] <Umeaboy> ?
[23:45] <rex_> any idiea
[23:46] <cxdvty> Hey I need help someone. I upgraded to ubuntu 14.10 and now ubuntu wont boot. What do I do?
[23:46] <rex_> tell me abouut choose mirror
[23:46] <rex_> how do i know
[23:46] <Wug> rex_: to be honest, I'm having trouble understanding your issue
[23:46] <Wug> if you're doing an installation, most of the defaults are fine
[23:46] <rex_> iso-scan, fdisk-deb, download-installer, load installer components from cd
[23:47] <deadmund> cxdvty: Do you mean 15.10?
[23:47] <Wug> man what's with all these bots
[23:47] <deadmund> cxdvty: What happens when you try to boot?  How far do you get?  do you see any information?
[23:47] <skinux> Is Ubuntu Touch an over-lay to Linux or is it a linux derivative of it's own?
[23:47] <cxdvty> no just black screen
[23:48] <rex_> download-installer or choose mirror  for install ?
[23:48] <cxdvty> and I had to go to 14.10 before I could get to 15.04
[23:48] <rex_> Wug:
[23:48] <Bashing-om> !nompdeset | cxdvty
[23:48] <cxdvty> what?
[23:48] <cxdvty> !vivid
[23:48] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | cxdvty
[23:49] <petrvs> skinux: well, first
[23:49] <rex_> please "D
[23:49] <petrvs> skinux: you have to distinguish between Linux and GNU/Linux
[23:49] <deadmund> cxdvty: I agree, seems like a nomodeset problem
[23:49] <Wug> rex_: you're just choosing the default download location for package updates?
[23:49] <petrvs> skinux: IIRC Ubuntu Touch does consist of an actual GNU/Linux you can put on many phones & tablets
[23:50] <petrvs> skinux: see #ubuntu-touch
[23:50] <Wug> I haven't had to run the installer in a while and I don't know what version you're installing, so I have no idea what you're seeing
[23:50] <Wug> your vm has an internet connection right
[23:50] <krabador> !utopic
[23:51] <krabador> !trusty
[23:51] <blee> petrvs: they are br1, and bond0
[23:51] <krabador> !oneiric
[23:51] <blee> petrvs: you still there? sorry i was afk
[23:51] <cxdvty> How do i do this without reinstallation
[23:51] <petrvs> blee: sure, but I forgot the problem
[23:51] <krabador> !feisty
[23:51] <petrvs> cxdvty: do what, upgrade to 15.04?
[23:51] <blee> petrvs: multiple interfaces setup on my network/interfaces file
[23:52] <blee> petrvs: each one uses a different dns server
[23:52] <cxdvty> No the nomodset
[23:52] <blee> petrvs: to make it simple, lets just say 2 interfaces, "br1" and "bond0"
[23:52] <blee> how do i make resolvconf use one over the other?
[23:52] <petrvs> cxdvty: how to apply nomodeset?
[23:52] <petrvs> !nomodeset
[23:52] <cxdvty> I seen that
[23:53] <Bashing-om> cxdvty: If you can get the grub boot menu edit in "nomodeset" as a boot parameter per the link .
[23:53] <cxdvty> Can I do it without reinstall
[23:53] <Bashing-om> cxdvty: Yes, if you can get grub .
[23:54] <Pazooza> Why does Cryptkeeper 0.9.5 has such a hard time starting up in Ubuntu 14.04. Usually crashes the first time and have to start it 4 or 5 times before it starts.
[23:54] <epx998> Where is the grub.conf on ubuntu?
[23:55] <EriC^^> Pazooza: run it from the terminal and check for errors
[23:55] <EriC^^> epx998: /boot/grub/grub.cfg why?
[23:55] <petrvs> epx998: mostly the same place
[23:56] <epx998> EriC^^: need to reduce the phy mem on the server
[23:56] <EriC^^> epx998: you mean add bad memory locations?
[23:57] <epx998> EriC^^: I need to reduce how much phy mem is being used
[23:57] <EriC^^> epx998: ok, well anything you do in grub.cfg won't live across kernel updates and update-grub
[23:58] <EriC^^> epx998: you should edit /etc/default/grub or /etc/grub.d/
[23:58] <epx998> EriC^^: Yeah saw the comments in the file on that