[00:37] <Etriaph> OK, either I am totally misunderstanding this code, or I can find nothing wrong with it.
[00:37]  * Etriaph makes tea.
[00:38] <Sho_> Etriaph: Which code?
[00:38] <Etriaph> dolphin
[00:38] <Etriaph> Can't save a shortcut.
[00:38] <Etriaph> But the code looks fine in source for the current package.
[00:39] <Etriaph> It would have to be a problem with KBookmarkManager
[00:42] <Sho_> KBookmarkManager is really creaky old code
[00:42] <Etriaph> It works every where else *but* dolphin
[00:43] <Etriaph> Kate and Plasma Desktop are two apps I have detailed places setup in.
[00:44] <Etriaph> Those places are in ~/.local/share/user-places.xbel
[00:44] <Etriaph> Assuming it's all managed by KBookmarkManager, they should end up there.
[00:44] <Etriaph> (I've also read that's where Dolphin stores it's places)
[00:45] <Sho_> I think so, yes
[00:46] <Sho_> You might want to try and catch d_ed on IRC, he debugged a tricky problem where KDE 4 and KF5 apps ended up clobbering each other's places data a while back
[00:46] <Sho_> And probably still has the code on his head a bit
[00:47] <Etriaph> Would he be in kde-devel?
[00:47] <Sho_> Etriaph: Yes, but he's also in here even
[00:47] <Sho_> Just probably soundly sleeping at this hour
[00:47] <Sho_> As I should be, really :)
[00:47] <Etriaph> Ah, OK.  Is there an email address I can get him at?
[00:48] <Sho_> i'll pass it to you in private
[06:37] <ovidiu-florin> good morning world
[06:37] <ovidiu-florin> has anything bad happened since the release?
[06:40] <ovidiu-florin> I'll be leaving civilisation in a couple of hours and won't have electricity or signal (not even radio). I'm going in the mountains for  a couple of days. Not (only) to relax, but to work there.
[06:40] <ovidiu-florin> I should be back by sometime sunday evening
[06:41] <ovidiu-florin> jose: knows the status of the webisite migration
[06:41] <ovidiu-florin> if it's done by monday, I'll do my best to finish in one day the pre-release checks and make it live
[06:41] <ovidiu-florin> oh, and add the new articles, that weren't added, update the download page, etc..
[06:42] <ovidiu-florin> I'll stil lbe reachable by phone, for 2-4 hours, till I loose signal. If it's important, send me an SMS, and I'll reply when I get it.
[06:43] <ovidiu-florin> or call
[06:43]  * ovidiu-florin is packing
[06:52] <sitter> Riddell: I now repaired kwallet CI because you didn't :'<
[06:58] <sitter> Riddell: I see you gave bluez-qt an epoch. I am not quite sure why though
[07:25]  * valorie is off for the weekend too, but to linuxfest northwest
[07:25] <valorie> have a good time, ovidiu-florin
[07:26] <valorie> I doubt connectivity will be good enough for irc
[07:58] <vip> hi ho
[08:05] <Riddell> sitter: because nowrep said it was staying in plasma
[08:05] <Riddell> sitter: but indeed it's a risk, maybe I should remove it
[08:05] <sitter> well now it is too late :P
[08:06] <sitter> Riddell: plase have a look at http://kci.pangea.pub/job/vivid_unstable_extra-cmake-modules/47/parsed_console/job/vivid_unstable_extra-cmake-modules/47/parsed_console/log_content.html#WARNING1 
[08:06] <sitter> it appears you add the patch but it never was actually in a series file
[08:07] <sitter> at the same time it also appears that we have no build failure to do with the patch making me wonder whether the patch actually was necessary at some point
[08:20] <Riddell> sitter: how can I see the warning?
[08:21] <sitter> Riddell: pardon?
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:23] <Riddell> oh I see "KCI-W :: Patch kubuntu_qtwaylandscanner_binary.diff in VCS but not listed in debian/series file."
[08:23] <Riddell> sitter: I was searching for "warning" maybe relabel that?
[08:51] <sitter> qapt seems to suffer from misguided enum use Oo
[09:35] <soee> good morning
[10:01] <Riddell> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/convergence-1505-snappy-desktop interesting
[10:02] <Riddell> so I guess they'll have a monolithic block of OS and anything else is a "snap" package
[10:02] <Riddell> which will make all the faff with backports and whatnot easier to separate the OS and the apps
[10:02] <Riddell> it also means we'll have trouble getting their software one day
[10:07] <soee> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-staging/+packages seems like all are fine ?
[10:10] <Riddell> soee: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.3.0_vivid.html still some issues
[10:12] <soee> Riddell: why there are some 5.2.95 packages ?
[10:12] <Riddell> breeze-qt4 and oxygen-qt4 need fixed, dunno why the scripts don't do that
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[10:43] <hyper_ch> hi there, I can't make bug reports at bugs.kde.org for plasma desktop
[10:45] <Riddell> hyper_ch: why not?
[10:45] <hyper_ch> Riddell: because the bug reporter takes me here:  https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided&product=plasma&component=desktop&version=unknown  -->  Sorry, either the product plasma
[10:45] <hyper_ch> Sorry, either the product plasma does not exist or you aren't authorized to enter a bug into it.
[10:46] <Riddell> it's the plasmashell product
[10:46] <Riddell> which bug reporter?
[10:46] <hyper_ch> dolphin -> control -> help -> bug report -> plasma/desktop
[10:47] <hyper_ch> then I get taken to that url
[10:48] <Riddell> hmm, that's interesting
[10:49] <Riddell> I've never used that dialog before, I wonder where it gets its list from
[10:49] <hyper_ch> it uses automagic
[10:49] <hyper_ch> no idea... but it works for just about everything else
[10:49] <Riddell> I did rename plasma product to plasma4 in kde bugzilla in order to stop people confusing it but that was weeks ago
[10:49] <Riddell> and here it has quite successfully stopped you from confusing it since else you'd have reported on the wrong product
[10:50] <Riddell> but bit of a fail that it doesn't get you the right product
[10:50] <hyper_ch> well, 15.04 with kubuntu team 5.3 beta ppa
[10:50] <hyper_ch> or maybe you can help
[10:50] <Riddell> what's up?
[10:50] <hyper_ch> I have attached two external desktops to my notebook and turnd notebook screen off
[10:50] <hyper_ch> s/desktops/monitors/
[10:50] <kubotu> hyper_ch meant: "I have attached two external monitors to my notebook and turnd notebook screen off"
[10:50] <Riddell> sitter: did you have a friendly new way to make symbol files?
[10:51] <hyper_ch> on the secondary monitor I set to use folder view which works fine
[10:51] <hyper_ch> however on the primary monitor, with the kde taskbar, I did the same... but after reboot it gets resetted again
[10:54] <Riddell> hyper_ch: sounds like a plasma beastie indeed, report to https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided&product=plasmashell&version=unknown
[10:54] <hyper_ch> Riddell: thx
[10:54] <hyper_ch> desktop dashboard component?
[10:55] <Riddell> that'll do
[10:58] <hyper_ch> also there is a big big locale issue IMHO
[10:59] <Riddell> probably lots
[10:59] <Riddell> the locale stuff has changed quite a bit in plasma 5
[10:59] <Riddell> what's up?
[11:00] <hyper_ch> well, I want language in english, in kde as well as shell terminal but the other stuff should be swiss german (currency, number formatting, date....)
[11:00] <hyper_ch> I just can't achieve that
[11:01] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: had the same issue
[11:02] <sitter> Riddell: I do not know where
[11:02] <Riddell> um what other stuff?
[11:02] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: in regional settings, set Region to UK or US or whatever you want, but not German or Swiss
[11:02] <Riddell> you either set the language to english or not, there's no magic way of it knowing you want 1 app in german 
[11:02] <hyper_ch> Blizzz: why not?
[11:02] <sitter> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10877722/
[11:03] <hyper_ch> Riddell: I don't want the langauge in german
[11:03] <hyper_ch> I want the way numbers are displayed in swiss german
[11:03] <hyper_ch> or the currency
[11:03] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: then, activate "Detailed Settings" and switch everything to where you are/what you want
[11:03] <hyper_ch> or default paper size
[11:03] <hyper_ch> Blizzz: I can try that
[11:04] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: if you keep the region as DE|CH some LC settings, like "MESSAGES" will be set to german. and they are not controlled via the GUI
[11:05] <hyper_ch> and where do I set it for the shell?
[11:05] <hyper_ch> dpkg-reconfigure locales just regenerates stuff
[11:05] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: shell will be in english then
[11:05] <hyper_ch> on debian I am prompted what locale I want to install and which one should be used as default
[11:05] <KDDA> is this chat only for 15.10 now?
[11:05] <soee> ill do series of short videos ~30 sec about Plasma 5.3 features
[11:06] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: this is more fine-grained
[11:06] <hyper_ch> Blizzz: will try your suggestion
[11:06] <hyper_ch> (I got tons more issues...)
[11:08] <hyper_ch> (e.g. complaining something about diskfilter because of raid1,  not accepting bt keyboard to enter luks/dm-crypt password)
[11:09] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: these are my regional settings: http://ibin.co/1zQZGoiPwc8m resulting in thise locale settings http://ibin.co/1zQZM7nF5AA1 
[11:09] <Blizzz> you see the lovely mixture of DE and EN
[11:09] <hyper_ch> thx, will try that
[11:10] <Blizzz> hyper_ch: looks like LC_PAPER needs to be set in .profile though or so
[11:12] <hyper_ch> if only I'd life 20km to the east, then I'd have sym gbps internet.... it takes way too long to upload a video with just 4mbit 
[11:21] <sitter> god I hate apt
[11:22] <sitter> package A has a new version, new version cannot be installed beacuse it is missing a dependency, A is not reported as held
[11:23] <sitter> in fact, deeeeeeeeeep down in the initial package cache apt considers this package held. once you tell the cache to upgrade though it simply looses its heldness
[11:23] <sitter> >.<
[11:54] <sitter> Riddell: it might be worth considering to sru http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libqapt.git&a=commit&h=9b134aed5d09731f914195f4c04c34d53e4b4098 and http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libqapt.git&a=commit&h=06fc79d435c3d906d651a60005f0a8f5572b696a they are save as they are only representational changes. as such they do however mark sure that the changesdialog in muon apps shows the right packages with the right states
[11:55] <sitter> http://i.imgur.com/Xhw3vmJ.jpg
[11:56] <Riddell> gotcha
[11:57] <KDDA> sitter: what font you using?
[11:57] <sitter> droid
[11:58] <sitter> except the terminal anyway
[11:58] <KDDA> looks good
[11:58] <sitter> my telepathy would like to disagree :P
[11:59] <sitter> http://i.imgur.com/oQcIBDF.jpg
[11:59] <BluesKaj> yeah droid's quite nicew , still like dejavu-sans best , it seems to agree with my astigmatism 
[13:19] <sitter> Riddell: I think I need to rewrite merger soon :P
[13:20] <Riddell> sitter: what's merger?
[13:20] <Riddell> the ci bit that does merges I guess
[13:24] <sitter> yup
[13:24] <sitter> it's failing to submit to my standards of code quality
[13:24] <Riddell> can't to rewrite kubuntu-automation scripts into ci soon too? :)
[13:24] <sitter> even though it is already the third attempt at writing the code properly -.-
[13:24] <sitter> Riddell: soon is all very relative
[13:55] <sitter> Riddell, shadeslayer: merging is now 8 to 22 times faster
[13:55] <ScottK> Not 23?
[13:56] <sitter> no!
[13:56] <ScottK> 22 is still pretty good.
[13:56] <ScottK> Generally I'm impressed if something goes to 11.
[13:56] <ScottK> </spinal tap>
[13:56] <sitter> xD
[13:57] <Riddell> :)
[14:13] <murthy> Can anyone give me some info about kubuntu stand on snappy? 
[14:13] <shadeslayer> heh
[14:13] <shadeslayer> murthy: I'd like to investigate it in a few weeks
[14:13] <murthy> shadeslayer: Interesting enough?
[14:13] <shadeslayer> yeah
[14:14] <murthy> shadeslayer: what about the teams stand?
[14:14] <murthy> *team's
[14:14] <shadeslayer> murthy: hasn't been discussed
[14:14] <murthy> right
[14:14] <shadeslayer> I think everyone's waiting for details
[14:14] <murthy> ya I am one of them
[14:15] <murthy> Ok you guys put a blog on that
[14:17] <shadeslayer> murthy: just attend the UOS sessions
[14:21] <murthy> ok will do
[15:14] <soee> https://plus.google.com/103390968466499853722/posts/9q7rBBJYAqp
[15:20] <shadeslayer> pft
[15:20] <ScottK> murthy: My personal view is that one of the main Ubuntu project strengths is it's Debian heritage.  Once one goes snappy, that's not really true anymore.
[15:21] <ScottK> soee: All four of his followers will be sad to read that.
[15:22] <BluesKaj> soee, kubuntu 15.04 can't make everyone happy :)
[15:22] <soee> :)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> the problem is he's right about the theme settings, miost of my choices didn't install at all or didn't work when applied
[15:24] <shadeslayer> not really a Plasma 5 issue is it
[15:24] <shadeslayer> talk to theme authors to get it fixed
[15:24] <ScottK> Right, 15.04 is a transitional KDE4 -> Plasma 5 release.
[15:24] <ScottK> It's not surprising there are some unresolved integration issues.
[15:24] <soee> well for me the breeze dark is cool enough :) no need for extra themes
[15:41] <yuriy> Congrats on another release guys!
[15:42] <yuriy> I haven't tried Plasma 5 yet so I'm really looking forward to trying it
[15:43] <soee> ;]
[15:54] <lordievader> Is it normal for an upgrade (14.10 -> 15.04 (amd64)) to not have plasma-desktop installed?
[15:55] <Riddell> lordievader: nope
[15:55] <BluesKaj> it installed here with do-release-upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 , lordievader
[15:55] <lordievader> Hmm, qua-non in #kubuntu didn't have it installed.
[15:56] <Etriaph> There were some folks yesterday having issues with an upgrade path.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> lordievader, he upgraded from a minimal install ,but that shouldn't have made a differnce
[16:00] <lordievader> Riddell: Does ^ that matter?
[16:09] <Riddell> lordievader: probably, best install it
[16:12] <soee> ok time to migrate my parents to Vivid ~.~
[16:48] <sgclark> shiny new 15.04 installed on my laptop to show off this weekend :)
[16:48] <sgclark> see you tonight valorie
[16:52] <soee> :)
[19:14] <ahoneybun> Riddell: yofel sgclark http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html
[19:17] <yofel> yeah, saw the news, won't comment on it though before I hear more about it at UOS
[19:24] <genii> I'm not sure this is a Good Idea
[19:24] <soee> does it make our live harder or easier ?
[19:26] <yofel> well, from what I know about it, it would be additional work for us - but might make life easier to users.
[19:27] <yofel> the way we currently manage packages is fairly good, but breaking something is far too easy
[19:28] <soee> some other distro uses this ot it is something new ?
[19:30] <genii> I've been in #snappy since it was announced and I see nothing but problems they are having in there. But of course everything is difficult at the beginning.
[19:32] <yofel> snappy is somewhat new, the idea not. Image based updates are pretty much standard on phones and application containers are becoming pretty common
[20:12] <ScottK> soee_: It's an Ubuntu only thing, although I've seen a similar thing announced from Fedora.
[20:40] <soee_> ScottK: thanks
[21:18] <mparillo> Is anybody testing Plasma 5.2.95 in a VM (ideally VMPlayer). Upstream says it is likely our bug. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346467
[22:03] <ahoneybun> yofel: https://plus.google.com/105024692216404165455/posts/FVAq4oBDdNt
[22:03] <ahoneybun> lots of good info
[22:08] <ahoneybun> what are the system requirements?
[22:10] <ahoneybun> Riddell: do you know the scripts used to pull the the docs and upload to the docs.kubuntu site?
[22:11] <ahoneybun> that is going to be my project for akademy
[22:11] <ahoneybun> getting http://docs.kubuntu.org/ looking good
[22:24] <Riddell> ahoneybun: it's just static html as I remember
[22:24] <Riddell> so it's just a case of kioclient5 help:/kubuntu/foo
[22:24] <Riddell> and upload load
[22:24] <ahoneybun> your speaking spanish to me man
[22:25] <ahoneybun> help:/kubuntu/kubuntu-docs?
[22:25] <Riddell> could be
[22:25] <ahoneybun> could css be loaded as well
[22:25] <ahoneybun> ?
[22:26] <soee> hmm i have created bootble usb with vivid but it wont start on my partents pc :|
[22:29] <Riddell> it'll need css added
[22:30] <Riddell> kioclient5 cp help:/kubuntu/index.html .
[22:37] <ahoneybun> which will do?
[22:41] <Riddell> infact you can use meinproc directory on the .docbook file in the source
[22:41] <Riddell> meinproc5
[22:41] <ahoneybun> spanish again lo
[22:43] <ahoneybun> talking about /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kubuntu/index.html right?
[22:47] <Riddell> there is no /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kubuntu/index.html not in the kubuntu-docs package
[22:47] <Riddell> it just includes a .docbook file
[22:50] <ahoneybun> yea
[22:50]  * ahoneybun grabs source
[22:51] <ahoneybun> so the -docs package is the key to the docs site?
[22:52] <Riddell> yeah it's just the -docs package converted to html
[22:52] <ahoneybun> not pulled right from the userbase site?
[22:52] <ahoneybun> userbase site -> -docs -> docs site
[22:55] <Riddell> yeah
[22:56] <ahoneybun> ok 
[22:58] <ahoneybun> so make up a css and include it in the -docs package?
[22:59] <Riddell> nah run meinproc5 on the .docbook file that'll give .html files
[22:59] <Riddell> then replace the help:/ urls in those .html files with urls to somewhere with the .css files
[23:00] <Riddell> which you can get from /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/common/
[23:10] <ahoneybun> oh boy
[23:11] <ahoneybun> nothing good
[23:11] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10882078/
[23:12] <ahoneybun> wait kde/?
[23:12] <ahoneybun> thats a old dirc
[23:17] <Riddell> ok then in /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/kdoctools5-common
[23:17]  * Riddell snoozes
[23:18] <darthanubis> http://picpaste.com/snapshot6-HnYUdtkt.png
[23:18] <darthanubis> I can't get this notice to disappear
[23:18] <darthanubis> with the package installed or without it
[23:19] <darthanubis> I install the package from cmdline accept all agreements, it downloads the files and installs without a hitch
[23:19] <darthanubis> yet the daemon keeps saying there are more packages to download
[23:20] <darthanubis> It has to be something simple that can fix this?
[23:21] <genii> darthanubis: After you manually installed it, have you logged out and back in again?
[23:21] <darthanubis> yes, that when the notice appears
[23:21] <darthanubis> about 5 mins after relogin
[23:22] <darthanubis> where is the daemon getting it's erroneous information?