[05:05] <Kilos> helloooo africa
[06:25] <Kilos> elacheche  we have work soon
[08:14] <elacheche> Kilos, can I get a scoop?
[08:14] <Kilos> a scoop of what elacheche
[08:14] <Kilos> oh there is a new applicant
[08:15] <Kilos> one of the lubuntu peeps i think
[08:20] <elacheche> Nice :) :)
[08:21] <elacheche> stickyboy, still fighting with tha xml?
[08:21] <elacheche> that*
[10:18] <Kilos> elacheche  look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StreamlineMembershipApproval
[10:19] <Kilos> so how do we go about doing this for africa
[10:25] <elacheche> Kilos, that's a very very old wiki page.. We don't use that any more (as Ubuntu Membership Board :p You should knew that :p).. Otherwise, you want to make a membership like for #ubuntu-africa ? Yeah why not.. We ( #ubuntu-tn ) have done something like that from the beginning of our activities.. We called it Freedom Fighters Group.. In fact we have 2 groups, MC ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/ComiteDirection ) and FF ( http
[10:25] <elacheche> s://wiki.ubuntu.com/TunisianTeam/FreedomFightersGroup )
[10:27] <Kilos> so then can you approve members or must they still go to the membership board elacheche
[10:27] <elacheche> You're talking about FF members?
[10:28] <Kilos> ubuntu membership man
[10:29] <Kilos> we have guys that think they havent contributed enough but they taught me every thing form when i started with ubuntu
[10:29] <elacheche> Hold on! why we're talking about ubuntu membership? O_o I don't get it, you want to do something like that for this team, or you're just asking about the real ubuntu membership
[10:30] <elacheche> Ah! You want to push those guys to be Ubuntu Members?
[10:30] <Kilos> i read that they are streamlining the process
[10:30] <Kilos> or is that also old
[10:31] <Kilos> i dont see everything , i have one old eye and one blind eye so rtfs frustrates me
[10:32] <elacheche> The wiki page you shared is outdated ( 2008 ).. Do you have any other link?? Many years ago there was Membership boards based on TZ and continents
[10:32] <elacheche> Now we have only ONE board with just 2 TZ
[10:32] <elacheche> I mean with 2 meetings
[10:33] <elacheche> Do you get me?
[10:33] <Kilos> ok ty
[10:33] <Kilos> see the new applicant
[10:34] <Kilos> works on lubuntu
[10:34] <elacheche> Ah now I can understand! Based on that old wiki you thought that we should get a board for africa too.. But the informations on that wiki are no more valid..
[10:34] <Kilos> if you dont remind me about the meeting ill steal all your dates and camel milk
[10:35] <Kilos> ya i was hoping we could do an africa board but never mind if its old. ty for the help
[10:36] <elacheche> L00L.. You're mistaken Kilos I don't own palms of camel :D You should visit Tunisia once..
[10:36] <elacheche> Kilos, you know what is the problem?
[10:37] <Kilos> what?
[10:38] <elacheche> There is many old wikis.. And they are so many, so nobody update them or maintain them.. That's the same problem with my LoCo Team wiki.. My next loco project is to reduce the number of wiki pages in ubuntu-tn to 10% or less..
[10:38] <elacheche> When we are many we create many pages, when the guys aregone or busy no 1 or 2 persons can't manage all those wikis
[10:38] <Kilos> good the main ubuntu peeps should do the same
[10:39] <elacheche> I agree, I'll start trying doing this with my loco, so I can figure out the best way to do it without losing time or informations, then will see about the rest ;)
[10:40] <Kilos> cool, good man
[10:40] <Kilos> make neo do some work too
[10:41] <elacheche> i'll try :)
[12:20] <melodie> hello!
[12:21] <Kilos> hi there melodie
[12:21] <melodie> hi Kilos how are you?
[12:21] <Kilos> im good ty and you?
[12:21] <melodie> not bad, thanks!
[12:21] <melodie> how is the project going?
[12:22] <Kilos> getting there slowly
[12:22] <Kilos> just need to advertise the site more i think
[12:22] <Kilos> will do that this weekend
[12:24] <Kilos> oh and looking for more translators
[12:24] <melodie> if your site would have a blog using Wordpress you could use the Publicize tool from the Jetpack plugin (provided by the devs of Wordpress) and have your posts forwarded to all the main social network
[12:24] <melodie> directoy
[12:24] <Kilos> but into afrikan languages
[12:24] <melodie> directly
[12:24] <melodie> for that part, perhaps the Ubuntu forums would be a good place to announce to?
[12:25] <Kilos> ill get one of our guys that use wordpress to do that for me
[12:25] <melodie> Kilos on our side, for now we need testers. Could you advertise ?
[12:25] <Kilos> im hoping it will be in the next ubuntu weekly news letter
[12:25] <melodie> https://launchpad.net/bento-dev
[12:26] <melodie> well Wordpress can do wonderful things with all the gpl'ed plugins
[12:26] <melodie> I have posted little things about it on several of my blogs, but the best is to stick with the posts from their places, wordpress.org and wordpress.com
[12:26] <Kilos> ok
[12:27] <melodie> have a "ubuntuafrica.wordpress.com", then from there get a askimet key, they you can do lots
[12:27] <melodie> askimet key is the first protection against spam, then one more can be added
[12:27] <Kilos> whew you really want to wear me out
[12:27] <melodie> then with Jetpack come numerous tools for every kind of use
[12:28] <melodie> Kilos "wear you out"? I don't know what it means
[12:28] <Kilos> um
[12:28] <melodie> but if it's too much info I stop! :D
[12:29] <Kilos> give me too much to think about and do
[12:29] <Kilos> hehe
[12:29] <Kilos> others read here as well so its fine
[12:29] <melodie> I was just spreading crumbs, your Wordpress expert can consult mine if he wants to.
[12:29] <melodie> Kilos look at the pic here? :D http://linuxvillage.org/blog/2015/04/24/sushi-trusty-a-tester/
[12:30] <melodie> this is the i386 version
[12:31] <melodie> the x86_64 has a different default background: http://linuxvillage.org/wp-content/uploads/images/sushi2-x86_64.png
[12:31] <Kilos> oh looks good
[12:31] <melodie> http://linuxvillage.org/wp-content/uploads/images/sushi-x86_64.png
[12:31] <melodie> I'll do more pics in the coming days (some with the system started in English too)
[12:31] <Kilos> like gnome2
[12:32] <melodie> but not desktop at all, just 3 main programs and config files easy to edit
[12:32] <melodie> we have to write tutorials too
[12:32] <melodie> all people interest to join are welcome
[12:33] <melodie> just Openbox means lighter, and the setting is first meant for non tech users, I have it installed at several people's places around my place
[12:33] <melodie> it's snappy, and they are happy ! :D
[12:33] <Kilos> thats good
[12:34] <Kilos> i need something light for old pc
[12:34] <elacheche> Salut melodie
[12:34] <elacheche> :)
[12:34] <melodie> how old is that PC?
[12:34] <melodie> hello elacheche !
[12:34] <Kilos> but no time to learn new stuff
[12:34] <Kilos> early p4
[12:34] <melodie> I'd like to discuss with you about something elacheche if you have a few minutes for me
[12:35] <Kilos> 2g ddr ram
[12:35] <melodie> early p4 with what graphics, cpu power and ram?
[12:35] <Kilos> very slow
[12:35] <melodie> very good
[12:35] <melodie> way enough
[12:35] <Kilos> onboard
[12:35] <Kilos> intel
[12:35] <melodie> and which p4 cpu?
[12:35] <melodie> yes Pentium is Intel
[12:35] <Kilos> 2.8g
[12:36] <melodie> great! Bento should be very comfortable in there
[12:36] <melodie> you can try one as is, or wait for the full blown version, as you like
[12:36] <Kilos> only i have to download after midnight
[12:36] <melodie> I would like to have some feedback before I push other ones though
[12:37] <melodie> will you be traveling and meeting a lot with the other African LoCo teams in the future? I might have an idea (not sure how good it is yet)
[12:38] <melodie> elacheche "<melodie> I'd like to discuss with you about something elacheche if you have a few minutes for me"
[12:38] <Kilos> ill try stay up and doanload it melodie
[12:38] <Kilos> he takes a while to answer
[12:38] <melodie> Kilos do you know how to use wget in the console, to download and resume interrupted downloads?
[12:39] <Kilos> yes
[12:39] <melodie> good
[12:39] <Kilos> wget -c
[12:39] <melodie> with the -c and eventually --limit-rate when needed
[12:39] <Kilos> and i supposee i can use at
[12:39] <melodie> your P4 is 32bits right?
[12:39] <Kilos> yes
[12:39] <melodie> ok
[12:40] <melodie> you might be one of the first testers on that version, you don't mind?
[12:40] <Kilos> no i like helping
[12:40] <melodie> I mean apart from myself
[12:40] <melodie> great!
[12:40] <Kilos> just just expect technical feedback
[12:40] <Kilos> dont
 he takes a while to answer a while to answer || he is probably at work
[12:41] <Kilos> yes he is
[12:41] <melodie> Kilos you tell me if that works well for your machine, and if something does not work the way you want, and whatever question about how to configure this or that?
[12:41] <melodie> is that what you can do?
[12:42] <Kilos> yes i can do that
[12:42] <melodie> is the P4 a tower or a laptop?
[12:42] <Kilos> first it needs to identify 3g modem
[12:42] <melodie> I am not sure the drivers for wifi are already in it
[12:42] <melodie> aha
[12:42] <melodie> not sure about 3g modem, I have to check
[12:42] <melodie> do you know the package name for that?
[12:44] <Kilos> whew
[12:44] <Kilos> network manager
[12:45] <melodie> never mind if you don't
[12:45] <melodie> network-manager isn't the driver, don't worry I'll find out
[12:46] <Kilos> and modeswitch must work
[12:47] <melodie> there are usb-modeswitch 2.1.1+repack0-1ubuntu1
[12:47] <melodie> usb-modeswitch-data 20140327-1
[12:47] <melodie> and several packages from ppp to pppoe and others
[12:47] <melodie> I'll look what is needed for 3g modems on the wikis
[12:48] <Kilos> ty
[12:49] <melodie> what is the brand and model 3g modem of your's?
[12:49] <melodie> that can help me find
[12:49] <melodie> there are several options shown on that wiki page for 3g modems
[12:50] <Kilos> d-link 156
[12:51] <melodie> ok, I can find with that
[12:51] <melodie> I think
[12:52] <melodie> this one? http://www.materiel.net/connexion-wi-fi/d-link-dwm-156-60322.html
[12:54] <Kilos> yes thats it
[12:56] <melodie> is it DWM as this one, or DWL ? Both exist
[12:56] <Kilos> dwm
[12:58] <melodie> which version of Ubuntu works well with it? If you are using it now, what about I get information from your system? (thinking of "lsmod" output)
[12:58] <Kilos> 14.04
[12:58] <melodie> the official one?
[12:59] <Kilos> 12.04 didnt see it i had to use hacks
[12:59] <melodie> aha
[13:03] <melodie> Kilos if you do "lsmod > lsmod.txt" you will get the list of drivers loaded in the lsmod.txt file
[13:03] <melodie> then you can paste it?
[13:03] <Kilos> ok
[13:03] <melodie> if you have pastebinit installed, after you just need doing " pastebinit lsmod.txt" (without the quotes) and you get the url to your paste
[13:04] <Kilos> where does it save to
[13:04] <melodie> in the current directory
[13:05] <melodie> when you open a console from the menu, it's opened in /home/you
[13:05] <melodie> you can check that with the command "pwd"
[13:05] <melodie> just type pwd and you know where you are in the tree directory
[13:08] <elacheche> Sorry melodie I didn't seen your message..
[13:08] <Kilos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10878485/
[13:08] <melodie> elacheche no problem, when you can
[13:08] <elacheche> how can I help
[13:08] <melodie> Kilos I look
[13:09] <melodie> Kilos here loot at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G#Provider_info
[13:09] <Kilos> ok
[13:09] <melodie> quoting : " Huawei E230 (HSUPA)
[13:09] <melodie> 	
[13:09] <melodie> USB
[13:09] <melodie> 	
[13:09] <melodie> works out of the box
[13:09] <melodie> 	
[13:09] <melodie> 3 Austria, MTN South Africa "
[13:10] <elacheche> melodie, If it's not an emergency I'll be on irc the night using ubuntiste-msakni :)
[13:10] <melodie> elacheche it's not urgent, and it does not take long either
[13:11] <melodie> Kilos pptp-linux 1.7.2-7 is installed
[13:11] <melodie> from your paste:
[13:11] <melodie> no
[13:11] <melodie> nf_nat_pptp            13115  0
[13:11] <melodie> is not used
[13:11] <melodie> I have to check further
[13:11] <Kilos> i only see vodacom by south africa but the modem uses telkom mobile as well
[13:13] <melodie>  Huawei E230 (HSUPA)  Austria, MTN South Africa
[13:13] <melodie> Kilos there are several
[13:14] <melodie> I guess I'll have to make sure all bluetooth is installed too
[13:14] <melodie> bluetooth             391136  10 bnep,rfcomm
[13:14] <melodie> from your paste
[13:14] <Kilos> oh can you see from my paste what is needed
[13:14] <Kilos> you too clever
[13:15] <melodie> it needs deeper research, but that can help
[13:16] <melodie> I don't know what the bnep module does and rfcomm has "com" in it.. so it's about it
[13:19] <Kilos> melodie  i have a huawei e220 as well that 12.04 saw fine
[13:19] <Kilos> b ut it does random timeouts thats why i got the d-link
[13:20] <melodie> poor Precise will be totally outdated before the end of it's LTS time I fear
[13:20] <melodie> have you tried that huawei with your 14.04 install?
[13:21] <Kilos> lol i enjoyed precise
[13:21] <Kilos> the huawei works on 14.04 but times out for no reason
[13:21] <Kilos> the d-link stays online all the time
[13:24] <melodie> have you used that huawei a long time? perhaps it's getting old age issues?
[13:24] <melodie> or was it hanging when new also?
[13:24] <Kilos> it is old. was given to me
[13:24] <melodie> ok
[13:25] <melodie> do you have devices to straighten the power in the house?
[13:25] <Kilos> i dont have an income so our community helped me where they could
[13:25] <Kilos> i have a ups yes
[13:26] <melodie> good!
[13:27] <Kilos> wbb need to fetch sheep
[13:28] <melodie> ok
[13:30] <Kilos> back
[13:31] <melodie> I have to quit the computer for a moment
[13:31] <Kilos> ok
[13:31] <melodie> until this end of afternoon i think
[13:31] <melodie> I'll bbl
[13:32] <Kilos> i will be here tonight as well
[13:33] <melodie> ok !
[15:05] <Kilos> im here about 16 hours a day
[15:06] <Kilos> otherwise i cant do usa west coast and australia east coast
[15:44] <Kilos> whew elacheche  thats a long time to wait for a meeting
[15:50] <Kilos> oh melodie  does it have a network manager
[15:51] <Kilos> as long as the nm is easy to setup i can run it and connect via eth and share the network connection with this pc
[16:34] <elacheche> Kilos, I know that's why I asked for confirmation (I got it) and I added the date to my calender.. Otherwise, do you know that if you have informations in /etc/network/interfaces then nm will not work, you need to have just lo config in that file so nm can manager eth and everything else
[16:35] <Kilos> yeah the most important part of a new distro is network manager
[16:35] <Kilos> must be simple and have all the connections easy to set
[16:36] <Kilos> linux needs the internet
[16:39] <Kilos> and distros must be made with the ex windows user in mind, not geek types
[16:39] <Kilos> everything must just work
[17:04] <elacheche> I'll be online in few hours :) see you guys :)
[18:15] <melodie> hi
[18:15] <melodie> just here a few minutes
[18:15] <Kilos> wb melodie
[18:15] <Kilos> ok
[18:15] <melodie> Kilos there is network-manager and nm-applet indeed!
[18:15] <Kilos> we have time
[18:15] <melodie> and if anything is missing for the internet in this rc we will find out and add whatever is needed
[18:15] <Kilos> if those work simply ill get things going melodie
[18:16] <Kilos> and i can always get you here or the other channel for help
[18:16] <melodie> Kilos there has been a long time since the people's hardware has not been listed anew in the ubuntu databases, I think it's time to resume doing so, and the coming together of Ubuntu Africa could help doing so!
[18:17] <Kilos> yeah lets hope so
[18:17] <melodie> Kilos yes, chans and if I'm not there, there is the linuxvillage forum with sections in both English and French
[18:17] <Kilos> oh yes
[18:18] <Kilos> give me the link again for the testing OS please
[18:18] <Kilos> i dont want to get the wrong one and waste data
[18:20] <melodie> of course
[18:20] <melodie> i686 ? not 64 bits?
[18:21] <Kilos> 32 bit
[18:21] <melodie> http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/sushi-trusty-rc4-i686-3.13.0-49-2014.04.2.iso
[18:21] <melodie> http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/sushi-trusty-rc4-i686-3.13.0-49-2014.04.2.iso.md5sum
[18:21] <Kilos> ty
[18:21] <melodie> welcome
[18:22] <melodie> and here is the file about your usb modem: http://www.dlink.com/-/media/Consumer_Products/DWM/DWM%20156/Datasheet/DWM%20156_Datasheet_EN_UK.pdf
[18:22] <Kilos> and update upgrade commands work right?
[18:22] <melodie> there are other docs here too: http://www.dlink.com/fr/fr/support/product/dwm-156-3-75-hsupa-usb-adapter
[18:22] <melodie> do you mean "do-release-upgrade" ?
[18:22] <Kilos> nono
[18:23] <melodie> or do you mean "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[18:23] <Kilos> apt-get update && upgrade
[18:23] <melodie> don't ever do that
[18:23] <melodie> dist-upgrade takes care of the dependencies
[18:23] <Kilos> must that dist-upgrade be used
[18:24] <Kilos> and aptitude works?
[18:24] <melodie> apt-get upgrade does not take care of the dependencies and it is use in rare circomstances by developers, when they know what they are doing.
[18:24] <melodie> I never use aptitude, never know when it's going to be a mess with apt-get
[18:24] <melodie> just use Synaptic
[18:24] <melodie> and apt-get if needed
[18:24] <Kilos> ok
[18:25] <Kilos> i love aptitude
[18:25] <Kilos> never messes up with ubuntu and ubuntu
[18:25] <melodie> I don't like what is complicated, but, while it's a test version, you can test aptitude
[18:25] <Kilos> ok lol
[18:25] <melodie> you can tell me if that works well for you but if it doesn't, you can't expect my support on this one as I don't use it
[18:26] <melodie> now you should know, that while Bento is a Remix, which means non-official
[18:26] <melodie> it is very close to the other Ubuntu versions
[18:26] <Kilos> good
[18:27] <Kilos> i will first get it going and online before i experiment with aptitude
[18:27] <melodie> there are some descriptions here, if you want to have a look http://linuxvillage.org/en/downloads/
[18:27] <melodie> yes
[18:28] <melodie> and add programs, it's quite bare
[18:28] <melodie> dillo to browse... mousepad, and you can use mc and it's numerous features
[18:28] <Kilos> but if its close to other ubuntus then aptitude should work well with installs and so on
[18:28] <melodie> use mc with the F4 option to edit any file inside the system
[18:29] <Kilos> oh my more learning
[18:29] <melodie> you can use it with "sudo mc" without any trouble and once you get used it's so easy you can't believe it
[18:29] <Kilos> what about nano
[18:29] <melodie> mc + F4 allows editing a file, and then it's the same method as in a graphical text editor
[18:30] <melodie> just you use F2 to save, and F10 to quit
[18:30] <Kilos> oh
[18:30] <melodie> nano isn't awesome as mcedit and mc is
[18:30] <Kilos> ok ill look
[18:30] <melodie> I have to provide a tutorial to mc, with screenshots and so. I have to do it!
[18:31] <melodie> I will! (I don't know when yet :D )
[18:31] <Kilos> whew good luck
[18:31] <melodie> I have put up a wiki some time ago
[18:31] <melodie> http://wiki.linuxvillage.org/doku.php?id=en:start
[18:31] <melodie> not much in it yet, but that's ready
[18:31] <Kilos> ok
[18:33] <melodie> I must quit now, have a fast dinner, I go to the movie. there is the #2 of "Divergente" out tonight!
[18:33] <Kilos> enjoy
[18:34] <melodie> thanks!
[18:35] <melodie> a buddy who is in Africa most of the year and in France sometimes, and who participates a lot on the french ubuntu wiki : now knows about your chans and the new website. He is happy to know!
[18:35] <Kilos> good ty
[18:40] <inetpro> uh
[18:40] <Kilos> lol
[18:40] <inetpro> Kilos: didn't you say you use 32bits?
[18:40] <Kilos> yes
[18:41] <inetpro> is sushi-trusty-rc4-i686 32bits?
[18:41] <Kilos> http://linuxvillage.org/blog/2015/04/24/sushi-trusty-a-tester/
[18:42] <Kilos> i have that link too
[18:42] <Kilos> ya didnt she say 64 bit or i686
[18:51] <Kilos> inetpro  thats the system they want to supply to schools in africa starting with mali
[18:52] <Kilos> so she wants help testing the latest release before thats made available
[18:53] <Kilos> or wants help testing before it is release
[18:53] <Kilos> d
[18:56] <Kilos> inetpro  are you gonna try it?
[19:02] <inetpro> no
[19:03] <Kilos> sigh little old me on my own again
[19:10]  * inetpro has enough to keep him occupied already
[19:10] <Kilos> lol
[19:27] <stickyboy> Me too.
[19:27] <stickyboy> But I'm still meeting with the Ethiopian Linux Users Group tomorrow.
[19:27] <stickyboy> :D
[19:27] <Kilos> lol
[19:28] <Kilos> have you found tsega
[19:28] <stickyboy> Kilos: Yah, I saw him today.
[19:29] <Kilos> good
[19:30] <Kilos> did you kick his butt
[19:30] <Kilos> you forgot hey
[19:31] <Kilos> how am i supposed to unite africa if you okes sleep all the time
[19:31] <inetpro> Kilos: like installing Kubuntu 15.04
[19:32] <Kilos> aw inetpro  now im jealous
[19:32] <Kilos> but melodie needs help
[21:18] <melodie> hi
[21:18] <melodie> Kilos i686 is 32bits and x86_64 is 64bits
[21:18] <Kilos> yay
[21:18] <Kilos> im waiting for midnight to start the download
[21:19] <melodie> Malinux is the one ready for Mali (not my doing, a non for profit of my area produces it on a Xubuntu basis)
[21:19] <Kilos> ah
[21:19] <melodie> I am just hosting it so all can get it, the version is 12.04 and we might use something else next time
[21:19] <melodie> not sure if it would be Bento, or, maybe something built on Debian which is incredibly light and is starting to come out really, but really beautiful!
[21:19] <melodie> :D
[21:19] <Kilos> so i just do wget -c http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/sushi-trusty-rc4-i686-3.13.0-49-2014.04.2.iso
[21:20] <melodie> yes sir, that's the one you want
[21:20] <Kilos> and some time i want to look at that light one
[21:20] <melodie> and it should use between 130 to 200 MB RAM max when idle after install ;)
[21:21] <Kilos> was it antix
[21:21] <melodie> yes of course, if you have a machine with max 1 GB and a very rotten graphic card, that's what you will need
[21:21] <melodie> Kilos yes! you are a winner!
[21:21] <melodie> XD
[21:21] <Kilos> lol
[21:21] <melodie> exactly, antiX MX 14.4 :D
[21:22] <melodie> do you want to see my feedback on that one on their forum?
[21:22] <Kilos> bnut ill do bento this month and maybe antix next month
[21:22] <melodie> ok
[21:22] <melodie> how many times have you the possibility to download in a month?
[21:22] <Kilos> i have 2 g ram
[21:22] <melodie> yes you told me, I haven't forgotten
[21:23] <melodie> and 2.8 Ghz P4 cpu
[21:23] <melodie> what for the graphics?
[21:23] <Kilos> only 1g of data to download after midnight
[21:23] <Kilos> onboard intel
[21:24] <Kilos> oh no old nvidia but not a very good one
[21:24] <melodie> which one?
[21:24] <Kilos> whew
[21:24] <melodie> old nvidia is often better than old ati btw
[21:25] <melodie> "lspci | grep VGA" tells you
[21:26] <Kilos> let me boot it
[21:26] <Kilos> how was your movie
[21:30] <Kilos> nv11 geforce2 mx/mx 400
[21:31] <Kilos> but the pc can run 14.04 just slow
[21:32] <Kilos> melodie  ^^
[21:34] <melodie> Kilos it was nice, thanks!
[21:34] <melodie> geforce 2 isn't that bad
[21:35] <Kilos> god so you smiling
[21:35] <melodie> which one is the embedded Intel?
[21:35] <Kilos> good
[21:35] <melodie> I am answering to the buddy who is French/African and wiki documentalist
[21:36] <Kilos> i dunno the inetl one but the pc ran better with the nvidia in
[21:37] <Kilos> tired now but want to start the download then sleep
[21:39] <melodie> sure
[21:40] <Kilos> im not fit like you
[21:40] <Kilos> or young like you
[21:42] <melodie> don't worry
[21:42] <Kilos> lol
[21:43] <melodie> I should be wise as you are, just I'm not and don't go sleep early enough. :D
[21:43] <Kilos> whew im not wise man
[21:43] <Kilos> i need you clever peeps to guide me all the time
[21:44] <Kilos> what does your buddy have to say?
[21:46] <melodie> that I have work waiting on the wiki. /o\ (among other things :D )
[21:46] <Kilos> lol
[21:46] <Kilos> hi ubuntiste-msakni
[21:46] <melodie> hi ubuntiste-msakni
[21:47] <melodie> Kilos do you sometimes meditate at bed time just before sleeping?
[21:47] <Kilos> no i just crash
[21:47] <ubuntiste-msakni> hi Kilos melodie :D
[21:48] <melodie> I do have an idea of a meditation that you might like very much, do you want me to share?
[21:49] <Kilos> to meditate you need to be able to focus and concentrate, i battle to do that with this stupid head
[21:49] <melodie> Kilos wrong
[21:49] <melodie> you don't
[21:49] <Kilos> i used to do some yoga but even that doesnt work anymore
[21:49] <Kilos> ok share
[21:49] <melodie> all you have to do is think about a single idea, preferably one which is unuasual to you, let it float gently...
[21:49] <melodie> then you are sleeping
[21:50] <melodie> well the idea is about us, us all FOSS and GNU/Linux and all Free OpenSource distributions from all around the world.
[21:50] <Kilos> lol i dont have to think, when i close my eyes im gone
[21:51] <melodie> We can say we mostly all go along well, through all countries, whatever the politics and the borders, we do our best to have it bright and awesome.
[21:51] <melodie> the idea is we should create our own virtual world nation. :D
[21:51] <Kilos> yes i agree. politics are bad news
[21:51] <melodie> this is the idea to meditate about !
[21:52] <Kilos> ok ill try
[21:52] <melodie> yes, try ! :-)
[21:52] <Kilos> i will, thats the idea of the site and this channel too
[21:53] <melodie> just let the idea float once you are well installed for sleep
[21:53] <Kilos> at least the linux peeps will work together
[22:00] <Kilos> night night melodie  sleep tight
[22:00] <Kilos> i start download then sleep
[22:00] <Kilos> night all others
[22:01] <ubuntiste-msakni> night Kilos
[22:07] <melodie> I missed him
[22:11] <melodie> ubuntiste-msakni lately you told me you need to get more insights about IPSec?
[22:15] <melodie> asking the question because I went to read the dsc file from a packages that has for name strongwan, to know what it does
[22:15] <melodie> and it's IPSec related
[22:15] <melodie> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-swan/pkg-swan.git/tree/README?h=wheezy-security
[22:16] <melodie> "strongSwan is an OpenSource IPsec solution for the Linux operating system
[22:16] <melodie> and currently supports the following features:..."
[22:25] <melodie> good night