[00:04] <Unit193> OvenWerks: Hrm, are you the random downloading the core ISO?  If so, we're about to do another rebuild (so you'll be able to zsync though.)
[00:05] <bluesabre> Unit193 is a creepy download stalker :)
[00:05] <krytarik> lol
[00:05] <Unit193> bluesabre: #ubuntustudio-devel, mate.
[00:07] <bluesabre> tis a silly place
[00:07] <bluesabre> that I should be in more frequently
[00:27] <ochosi> Unit193: do we have some install instructions or docs for it in place?
[00:27] <ochosi> as soon as we do, i'll sure as hell gonna socialize it :)
[00:28] <ochosi> bluesabre: you mean camelot?
[00:28] <Unit193> ochosi: mini.iso is on the tracker, and -core install instructions are the same as the desktop.
[00:28] <Unit193> Wait for the final rebuild?
[00:29] <ochosi> sure
[00:29] <ochosi> anyway tonight i'm too tired, let's finalize this tomorrow
[00:29] <ochosi> also, let's talk to elfy
[00:32] <bluesabre> :)
[02:15] <OvenWerks> Unit193: Thanks ok.
[02:16] <Unit193> It'll work fine as-is, but slight build changes.
[03:15] <Unit193> krtarik: OK I think I'm happier with it.  Slight roadbump in the fix, but all should be good.
[05:02] <OvenWerks> Unit193: zsync is not happy trying to dl core
[05:02] <Unit193> Oh?
[05:02] <OvenWerks> failed to retrieve from xubuntu-core-15.04-amd64.iso
[05:02] <OvenWerks> I am not sure if there is a trick to deal with https
[05:03] <Unit193> zsync http://unit193.net/xubuntu/xubuntu-core-15.04-amd64.iso.zsync  or you can use the same zsync-curl package.
[05:04] <OvenWerks> Ok that works.
[06:47] <elfy> morning
[06:51] <astraljava> o/
[06:51] <Unit193> Howdy.
[06:51] <Unit193> elfy: Got enough pings in scrollback?
[06:52] <elfy> yep I did 
[06:52] <elfy> speed reading catches the gist of it :)
[06:52] <elfy> I'm all for -core being more official
[06:53] <elfy> as far as testing goes - that's kind of immaterial - imo we shouldn't not do THIS just because we've got few testers
[06:53] <elfy> I would have to assume the ones we DO have would test what we threw their way
[06:54] <Unit193> No, we should not do it because it'd be me directly adding more to the testing load. :P
[06:54] <elfy> I'll be doing the 'how did testing go' mail to the list soon - let's see what response we get from that
[06:54] <elfy> and as Unit193 said - I'd be cool with -core being pushed at milestones only
[06:55] <elfy> Unit193: lol
[07:16] <elfy> also - if we are going to push it then the next cycle is the one to do it during, I'd not be soSearch Results blasé during the following LTS one
[07:17] <elfy> stupid middle mouse button
[08:25] <Unit193> slickymasterWork: zsync before you use the image, btw.
[08:25] <slickymasterWork> ok Unit193 
[08:30] <ochosi> elfy: that sounds pretty good to me!
[08:31] <ochosi> so maybe rather than announcing the image for 15.04 on xu.org, we could announce that there will be images throughout 15.10 and that we want ppl to do milestone testing
[08:32] <ochosi> actually i'm wondering whether smoketests would be enough for -core
[08:32] <ochosi> since most (or all?) of the rest is tested in -desktop anyway
[08:34] <elfy> ochosi: that sounds and appears logical 
[08:34] <Unit193> Awwwh. :(
[08:51] <ochosi> Unit193: what would you have preferred
[08:54] <Unit193> Well, kind of kidding, but..
[09:17] <ochosi> Unit193: right, still, please finish your sentences :)
[09:17] <elfy> heh
[09:19] <Unit193> Eh, well kind of exists now, but meh.
[09:40] <ochosi> Unit193: yeah, as i said, i wouldn't mind announcing it's sort-of-readiness now when announcing plans for 15.10 for it
[09:40] <ochosi> elfy: ^ ?
[09:46] <elfy> yep - works here 
[10:02] <ochosi> Unit193: would that be an ok compromise for you then?
[10:08] <ochosi> knome: re: that xfpm bug, you might have to compile yourself either way because if you can reproduce the bug, i'll need to add more debug-code so we can get the needed info
[10:08] <ochosi> bbiab
[10:08] <knome> hurgh
[10:08] <knome> :P
[10:08] <ochosi> well, that's what testing apps actually means most often ;)
[10:09] <knome> i know
[10:09] <ochosi> but the steps are really simple
[10:09] <ochosi> are you comfortable with applying git patches btw?
[10:10] <knome> somewhat
[10:10] <ochosi> ok good
[10:10] <ochosi> otherwise i would've set up a separate repo for testing/debugging it, but that seems a little over the top
[10:10] <knome> heh
[10:10] <ochosi> gotta run out for 2h, bb after that
[10:11] <knome> yep
[11:53] <knome> pleia2, RT 26480 if you are interested, but no need to worry, i'll handle it
[12:04] <elfy> thanks knome 
[12:04] <elfy> could have done that myself ... 
[12:06] <knome> it's fine :)
[12:18] <knome> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/15.04/release/
[12:18] <knome> oops.
[13:55] <ochosi> knome: any time you're ready, lemme know
[13:56] <knome> got to eat first
[13:56] <ochosi> sure, bon appetit
[13:57] <knome> if only i knew what i'm eating..
[14:51] <slickymasterWork> Unit193, zsynced and installed without a glich
[14:52] <elfy> afternoon peeps
[14:52] <slickymasterWork> if you want any specific testing on it please let me know
[14:52] <slickymasterWork> hey elfy 
[14:52] <slickymasterWork> *glitch
[15:59] <ochosi> knome: soo... ready for some testing now?
[16:25] <knome> ochosi, unfortunately (for you) i'm not on my desktop now...
[16:25] <knome> will probably be postponed to some other day; unless you simply leave me the instructions and the test subject..
[16:35] <ochosi> hm, alright
[16:47] <slickymasterWork> ftr knome, there's a typo in http://xubuntu.org/news/15-04-release/
[16:47] <slickymasterWork> I'm correcting it
[16:59] <elfy> where? 
[17:00] <slickymasterWork> in the known issues section
[17:00] <slickymasterWork> It was: "... To workaround this, simply readd the notes plugin to the panel....
[17:00] <slickymasterWork> removed the extra 'd' in readd
[17:00] <elfy> oh yea 
[17:00] <elfy> umm
[17:01] <elfy> readd is right - read isn't :)
[17:01] <elfy> or re-add
[17:03] <slickymasterWork> god damn it elfy :P
[17:03] <knome> slickymasterWork, yeah you are wrong :P
[17:03] <knome> it's "re-add"
[17:03] <slickymasterWork> well at least you'll have to concur that it was an honest mistake
[17:04] <elfy> and work around as krytarik said elsewhere, being too scared to come here 
[17:04] <krytarik> LOL - yeah yeah.
[17:04] <elfy> slickymasterWork: it was an honest mistake for sure :)
[17:04] <elfy> ohai krytarik :p
[17:05] <slickymasterWork> ok, it's re-add. now
[17:06] <knome> slickymasterWork, "To work around this, simply add the notes plugin back to the panel." 
[17:06] <knome> slickymasterWork, plz
[17:07] <slickymasterWork> ok knome, I admit I read it diagonally 
[17:07] <elfy> that's lost in translation here :)
[17:07] <knome> slickymasterWork, please put what i just quoted there for improved clarity
[17:08] <slickymasterWork> ?! knome 
[17:08] <knome> slickymasterWork, "To work around this, simply add the notes plugin back to the panel." 
[17:08] <slickymasterWork> put what? where?
[17:08] <knome> on the website
[17:08] <knome> :P
[17:08] <krytarik> Same would apply to the wiki page, btw.
[17:08] <knome> i can take care of that
[17:09] <slickymasterWork> so not, re-add?
[17:09] <slickymasterWork> without the comma
[17:09] <elfy> slickymasterWork: change it to that sentence 
[17:09] <knome> slickymasterWork, well it's a different sentence altogether :P
[17:09] <elfy> To work around this, simply add the notes plugin back to the panel
[17:09] <knome> or i can do it if it's too baffling..
[17:11] <slickymasterWork> no it's not too baffling knome 
[17:11] <slickymasterWork> it's done
[17:11] <knome> thanks
[17:12] <elfy> ummm
[17:12] <elfy> looks to be a different colour to me
[17:12] <knome> really?
[17:12] <krytarik> +1
[17:12] <knome> maybe
[17:13] <knome> damn that slimy master
[17:13] <elfy> definitely
[17:13] <elfy> bad timing there from me :p
[17:13] <krytarik> Also, "Release notes" → "Release Notes" as well then. :P
[17:13]  * knome goes fix
[17:14]  * knome sighs
[17:14] <knome> done
[17:14] <krytarik> \o/
[18:37] <knome> zequence, ping
[19:14] <Unit193> ochosi: Heh, of course.  In the end whatever works and is useful.  If that means wait until 15.10 for more testing, that's fine.
[19:44] <knome> zequence, (at least) two things:
[19:44] <knome> zequence, 1) how did you end up with SSL on studio's website?
[19:45] <knome> zequence, 2) did you get jetpack installed for studio WP and/or are you interested in it any more?
[21:51] <zequence> knome: Don't know about the ssl. We haven't got anything installed, no.
[21:51] <zequence> I'm satisfied myself with what we have right now.
[21:51] <knome> zequence, ok, then i'll likely as them to close that ticket