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nandalpnWill I be able to upgrade directly from 14.04.2 LTS to 15.04 (i.e skipping 14.10)?01:23
cfhowlettnandalpn, no01:25
scriptwarlockanyone home?04:00
pleia2always :)04:01
pleia2!ask04:01
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:01
scriptwarlockgot fresh install updated xubuntu 15.04 and after right clicking to "arrange desktop icons" i got this http://mastertux.imgur.com/all/  http://imgur.com/IDTEyJe04:05
scriptwarlocki think this one http://imgur.com/YHVkVtl04:05
scriptwarlocksorry for the first link04:06
scriptwarlocki think i need to speak to xfce also04:13
xubuntu22whello04:15
xubuntu22wok04:15
xubuntu22wyes04:15
xubuntu22wquick Q04:16
xubuntu22wtrying to create in a mac a USB ubuntu image for a winfos machine04:16
xubuntu22wwindows04:16
xubuntu22wcan't find a straight answer how04:17
xubuntu22wanybody?04:17
xubuntu22w1004:18
xubuntu22w904:18
xubuntu22w804:18
xubuntu22w704:18
xubuntu22w604:18
Unit193xubuntu22w: Stop that.04:18
xubuntu22wha!:)04:18
xubuntu22wthank you04:18
xubuntu22wall ears04:18
scriptwarlockyou got his attention now xubuntu22w :)04:18
xubuntu22wthe Q is04:19
xubuntu22wto create a windows bus image in a mac04:19
xubuntu22win a usb04:19
xubuntu22wgot windows 8.1...bricked my laptop04:19
xubuntu22wso I am going xubuntu04:19
xubuntu22wreturned windows 8.1 to the store04:19
xubuntu22wI took the ubuntu tour and it is the way to go04:20
xubuntu22wI have no windows machine available but a mac04:20
xubuntu22wborrowed one to get my lp back04:21
xubuntu22wi have the usb stick into the Mac now04:21
Unit193scriptwarlock: I'd look https://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?component=General&product=Xfdesktop&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on= for your bug though.04:21
xubuntu22wI cool let me see04:21
xubuntu22wOK thank you for your time04:23
xubuntu22wbut it will take too long04:23
xubuntu22wI already spent enough time on this today and the ubuntu website was cumbersome04:23
xubuntu22wfor something so simple04:23
xubuntu22wi am surprise the answer is hidden so deeply04:23
xubuntu22wI am out04:23
xubuntu22wbut04:24
xubuntu22wTHANK OU FOR OUR TIME!04:24
scriptwarlockUnit193, checking the link  thanks04:24
xubuntu22w                                                           Y04:24
xubuntu22wit is simple04:24
xubuntu22wit took me 10 minutes to realize04:24
Unit193lp 1434959, scriptwarlock.04:24
xubuntu22wthe start up creator is nowhere to be found04:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1434959 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "XFCE desktop - system icons themselves arrange off the screen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143495904:24
xubuntu22w un;less supposedly you install ubuntu first04:25
xubuntu22wthere should be a page describing MAC to Windos and vice versa regarding the USB install04:25
scriptwarlockUnit193, what does lp means ? sorry got confused04:26
xubuntu22wand the start up creator should be independent of the OS04:26
xubuntu22win any case thank you again04:26
Unit193scriptwarlock: It's a bug, then ubottu linked you to it with the description and status.04:26
xubuntu22wI will look into it some other time.....04:26
xubuntu22whopefully I don't have to go back to the store and buy a 128 Solid State and buy back the windows 8.104:27
xubuntu22wI would have rather give the money to ubuntu04:27
Unit193Likely use dd from inside Mac OS, but I don't know as I don't use Mac OS, xubuntu22w.04:27
xubuntu22wbut too much work04:27
scriptwarlockUnit193, oh well nothing there to see04:27
xubuntu22wit is ok04:27
xubuntu22wtomorrow when I am at work ...windows04:27
xubuntu22wwill look for a different start up disk creator and get ubuntu that way04:28
xubuntu22wonce I get it going...i will donate to ubuntu.....i like what i see04:28
xubuntu22wthank you again!04:28
xubuntu22wmaybe once I do that I can add to the forums04:28
Unit193scriptwarlock: It's fixed, so there is that.04:36
scriptwarlockUnit193, i'm about to file can i have the link?04:36
Unit193https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434959 looks like yours.04:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1434959 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "XFCE desktop - system icons themselves arrange off the screen" [High,Confirmed]04:37
scriptwarlockUnit193, hah got it ok i think i need to wait for the fix04:39
scriptwarlockUnit193, thanks04:46
Unit193Sure, happy to help.04:46
scriptwarlockUnit193, the bug affects my arch setup as well04:47
adrian_1908hello, I just got a notification that 15.04 stable is now available (I'm on 14.10) along with an upgrade button. Should I do this, or do version upgrades pose a risk of breaking things?06:06
futurestackmy wifi sees every network except the ones I already know06:09
Unit193Sure there's some risk, but Utopic/14.10 is supported for 9 months after release.06:09
futurestackit's the opposite of fun06:09
futurestackcan't connect to wifi at home or at the pub. this is new as of today and I didn't change anything. leads? (please)06:11
futurestacki did install libusb, eas trying to  get a controller working06:12
futurestackwhy would this break wifi tho06:12
futurestackwifi works but my preferred networks aren't in the list FML06:13
adrian_1908I'll just go ahead and upgrade. If something breaks, I think I can live with it :D06:14
adrian_1908bye!06:14
Unit193wpa_supplicant was just upgraded, in vivid.06:14
Unit193futurestack: The connections are in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/06:14
futurestackI did not upgrade, what should I do to restore functionality?06:16
futurestackremove everything in that dir?06:17
futurestacknm-applet now shows nothing, no networks06:19
futurestackenable wifi os now grayed out. great06:20
futurestack*is06:21
Unit193sudo service network-manager restart06:22
futurestackto gain whatever sympathy vote I can, I have done nothing for the last six months; stuff just stopped working today and I have no idea why06:23
Unit193I'd be checking logs.06:24
futurestackwhich logs? dmesg gives me brsmc errors which leads to two forum posts that have different hardware06:26
futurestackall of my setup worked fine until abt 2h ago and I literally changed nothing so am very confused06:26
futurestackI can't even conmect to my home wifi now06:27
futurestackoh wait, it's worse, networking is entirely disabled, great, nvmm06:29
Unit193Is network-manager properly running?  Kernel updates?  Driver/firmware updates?  broadcom cards tend to be "fun"06:29
futurestackI restarted, networking claims to work, one sex06:31
futurestacksec06:31
futurestackomfg it worked for a second06:33
futurestackand now back to defunct. what the hell happened06:33
futurestackdmesg reporta a bunch of erors tht I googled earlier that were useless06:34
Unit193Now, dmesg and if on vivid sudo systemctl status network-manager.service06:34
futurestackI'm on utopic06:34
futurestackI think06:34
futurestacksystemctl does not exist06:35
pragomerhello. I want to remaster the xubuntu-live-cd and I have a beginners question (about "skel"). can someone help?06:36
futurestackoh man I love this stuff06:36
futurestackwherr do I sign up to fucking kill myself when my wifi stops working for no fucking reason06:37
futurestackis it over here? cool thanks xD06:38
Unit193No cussing please.  You can try to see if #ubuntu is any more help.06:38
futurestackoh sorry06:38
Unit193Sure, I get it's frustrating.06:38
Unit193pragomer: What question?06:38
futurestackhabits06:38
Unit193futurestack: Randomly stopping implies something changed like an upgrade, driver is more common and generally easier.06:39
pragomerthanks unit193. Here's my remastering-script:06:39
pragomerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10876629/06:39
pragomerI copy some folders/files to /etc/skel06:40
futurestackright. I did change one thing in the system today/06:40
pragomerlines 92 ff06:40
pragomerbut these are ignored06:40
Unit193Oh gosh, no.06:41
futurestackit had to do with a ps3 controller06:41
pragomeryou mean me, unit?06:41
futurestacklibusb-dev and one third party thing06:41
futurestackif that beoke my wifi well,..., well06:42
Unit193pragomer: That's not how you do that, look more at the files in /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/ until you find the panel settings.06:42
futurestack*beroke06:42
Unit193futurestack: Well, libusb-dev wouldn't for sure.06:42
futurestackbutmy wifi is totally broken for no reason, and I guess I06:42
futurestackwas hoping for an answer here06:43
pragomerI though copying the settings from /home/xubuntu/.config would be enough.. mm.. okay...06:43
pragomerSo you mean I take the files from running xubuntu-live-cd from /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/ or from source-iso ?06:43
Unit193futurestack: I'd try #ubuntu, I can't think of anything.06:43
futurestackok, thanks06:43
Unit193Sorry.06:44
futurestacknbd :(06:44
futurestackwho needs wifi anyways06:44
Unit193I'm upstairs right now, I dooo.06:45
futurestack0/win 306:45
futurestackshiit06:45
Unit193Alt+3 ?06:45
futurestackI'm typing on my phone because my WIfi is fucking broken yo06:46
futurestackbbl06:46
alxkHello! After upgrading to 15.04 it seems i cant connect on home wifi(open).The available networks are there but the connection always gets  timed out according to dmesg.Guidance would be really appreciated!11:40
audreelissXubuntu the better choice? 64bit or 32bit? Computer 2007 E6750 4GB of RAM. Thank you for your opinions.12:04
knomeif you processor is 64-bit, no reason not to use the 64-bit version12:07
audreelissAnd is there in that very difference? Because Windows does not see 4GB Ramos and here and how everything he sees. Are all programs, program center 64bit? Because I could not find 64bit skype.12:09
knomeyou can run skype on 64-bit12:10
remline__Where do I find the checksum for the 15.04 ISO?12:16
knomehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/15.04/release/12:18
diegowsis there a script or something to cleanup old password from gnome keyring12:30
diegowsit's eating all my memory :P12:30
brainwashdiegows: install seahorse to manage your passwords12:35
diegowsyes, I'm testing it but I have thousands of passwords in hte keyring :)12:36
diegowsI was looking at the python module to write something to purge unused passwords12:36
brainwashdiegows: I suggest that you connect to irc.gnome.org and join #keyring12:38
diegowsgood :)12:38
diegowsthanks12:38
brainwashgood luck :)12:39
audreelissDo you also some ppa repository does not work? Somehow a lot of currently dormant storage. Never lost to the face. List: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found12:40
audreelissW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kilian/f.lux/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found12:40
audreelissW: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-davidsansome/clementine/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found12:40
audreelissE: Some index files failed to download. They have been IGNORED, or old ones used Instead.12:40
knomeaudreeliss, generally, ask the PPA maintainer about PPA problems12:40
audreelissThank you. I'll try :)12:42
xubuntu69oHi  I'm looking to upgrade my xubuntu from 14.04 to 15.04 in temrianl, how do i do thi12:57
xubuntu69o*this12:57
knomexubuntu69o, you will have to upgrade via 14.10, there is no way to hop over that12:57
xubuntu69ookay, cool, If i'm remembering right theres a terminal command to get to 14.10, what's that again?12:59
knomexubuntu69o, "sudo do-release-upgrade", considering you have updates for normal releases enabled (and not LTS only)13:00
xubuntu69oGreat thanks!13:00
redirmorning (here) xubuntu13:26
knomehello.13:27
redirI updated to 15.04 this morning via `sudo do-release-upgrade`13:27
redirand I seem to have gotten a development release.13:27
knomenope.13:27
redirIs this expected.13:28
redir?13:28
knomeit is not the development version, it's the final release13:28
redirit has kernel 3.18.x and says development channel in the /etc/lsb-release13:28
knomedo you have pinned package?13:29
redirDISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu Vivid Vervet (development branch)"13:29
knomeare you sure the upgrade was done correctly?13:29
redir3.18.0-12-generic13:29
redirknome I did it the same way I do it on ubuntu and it seemed to do the same thing, but came up with a different release13:30
redirwhat do you mean pinned package?13:30
knomehave you taken the last updates?13:30
knome"sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?13:30
redirknome: yes13:30
knomeand there is no errors when you do that?13:31
redircorrect13:31
redirsudo do-release-upgrade also says I am up to date13:32
knomehave you ran sudo apt-get update?13:32
redirknome: yes13:32
knomeredir, run "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit" and paste the url here13:35
redirhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10878636/13:35
knomeright, your repository is probably just lagging13:36
knomeyou can change your repository to the main server if you want, or simpy wait for some time13:37
redirmeaning it will catch up in the next 24-48?13:37
knomethat's likely, it all depends on the repository server13:37
redirOK. I'll give it a couple days.13:37
knome"Last update succeeded on fruitfly.it.anl.gov at:  Mon Feb  2 03:11:28 CST 2015"13:37
redirfebruary!13:38
knomeapparently it's not a very recent mirror13:38
redirswitched mirrors and getting updates. Fingers crossed -- thanks knome.13:44
knomenp, enjoy13:44
redirI'm back:)14:21
redirGot the updates and seems to have the correct versions14:22
rediram on 15.04 proper now.14:22
redirbut.... lightdm-gtk-greeter hangs with a grey screen and spinning a core at 100%14:23
DannyFHey folks, I'm using (X)ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS and seemingly since the last kernel update (3.13.0-49-generic) my cursor no longer changes from a standard pointer.14:23
redirif anyone hace any ideas on the lightdm-gtk-greeter they would be apprectaited14:25
DannyFThe application being used makes no difference, be it chrome firefox or xchat.14:25
redirsystemctl restart lightdm.service returns Error: No space lef ton device.14:27
redirThat seems suspicious as htere is plenty of space on the device:/14:27
elfyredir: seperate /boot?14:27
redir89M in /boot14:28
redirelfy: ^14:28
elfymmm14:28
geniiPossibly /var where it wants to write the log is full14:28
* redir looks14:29
redirand looks up how to see the partition schema14:29
elfydid your last upgrade work properly? if /boot doesn't have room and you tried to install a new kernel14:31
elfyredir: ^^14:31
redirelfy: it boots. Just the login screen hangs.14:33
elfywell - there is a space issue somewhere :)14:34
elfylook where genii pointed14:34
redirright:)14:34
redirlookinf14:34
geniiAny partitions from result of: df -h  look like they are getting full?14:34
redirone big partition mounted at / and a boot efi partition14:34
redirgenii: no 69% on / and 1% on /boot/efi14:35
* redir looks at logs14:36
geniiredir: Find anything enlightening/odd in the logs yet?14:44
redirgenii: not really14:44
redirthe lightdm logs have warnings about not finding wallpaper14:45
redirbut no errors14:45
redirX seems to be up and running14:47
redironly the login screen hangs14:47
rediror is just grey and 100% CPU on one core14:48
redirI see some upstart errors when I stop lightdm14:48
rediraha lightdm-gtk-greeter:5856): Gdk-WARNING **: lightdm-gtk-greeter: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.14:49
elfyright14:50
elfyso a proper upgrade should have brought in systemd and you should be booting with that14:51
elfymight be some oddities going on there14:51
redirelfy: I htink it is14:51
elfywhat happens with an apt-get dist-upgrade ?14:51
redirclean14:52
elfyk14:52
redirCalculating upgrade... Done 0 0 014:52
elfytry booting with upstart then :) advanced menu in grub - option should be there14:53
redirsudo restart14:53
redirhehe14:54
redirAFAICT everything is up and running but the greeter14:55
audreelissIs it possible to compile usually without any plug-ins installed xfce xfce from the site?14:55
elfyredir: and restarting lightdm when running upstart?14:56
redirfirst I have to get to grub:/14:56
elfyredir: press and hold tab14:56
elfyor shift ...14:57
redirahh15:00
redirI think I need a non ergo keyboard15:00
elfyredir: assuming you can log in to a terminal you can show grub by editing a file15:01
elfyI don't want to do too much, never had that issue personally and I've been running dev versions for about 3 years15:01
redirOK neither tab nor shift get's me there.15:02
rediryeah my first problem I couldn't solve in a couple minutes15:02
elfyone should for sure15:02
redirin several yeara15:02
elfyanyway - edit /etc/default/grub and comment GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=015:03
elfythen update-grub15:03
elfyobviously with root rights15:03
elfythen you should see the grub menu15:04
redirbooting w/ upstart15:06
redirsame issue15:06
redirlightdm-gtk-greeter spins15:06
elfyredir: mmm - not sure, if no-one else pipes up in here maybe try #ubuntu, should be a fairly generic issue15:08
redirk15:08
redirthanks elfy15:08
geniiI'm suspecting there's some race condition on the cpu15:09
redirOK15:15
rediradding "active-monitor=0" to the greeter config fixed it15:15
redirI think15:16
rediryup logged in now15:16
redirso I found a bug15:16
rediris there an Xubuntu place to report it? or is it general ubuntu?15:17
geniiredir: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter  right-hand side under Get Involved is "Report a bug"   ... need to login with either Launchpad ID or Ubuntu One15:22
elfygenii: might be better to ubuntu-bug it from a terminal15:23
geniielfy: Without a -dbg package for it, info there probably not much use15:24
elfymmk15:24
geniiredir: The alternate way as elfy describes is: ubuntu-bug lightdm-gtk-greeter     on commandline15:25
geniiThe information it gathers for debugging purposes will be incomplete, however15:26
knomeredir, i might be affected by the same bug, please report it and i'll see if i can confirm it15:30
geniiredir: That package doesn't have a -dbg package that goes with it. If you want to create a more useful report perhaps see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Non-built-in_debug_symbol_packages_.28.2A-dbgsym.2915:31
knomeas long as the bug is filed... :)15:32
redirI enabled debugging in the config and have the log I can post witht he report.16:02
redirlooks like it is switching monitor ports endlessly16:02
redirso prolly only affects multi monitor setups16:07
redixinHi all. minidlna package was missing in ubuntu-14.04, but this was fixed (according to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/minidlna/+bug/1309651)16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1309651 in minidlna (Ubuntu) "MiniDLNA missing from Ubuntu 14.10" [Undecided,Fix released]16:33
redixinbut is does not exists in xubuntu16:34
genii!info minidlna utopic16:59
ubottuminidlna (source: minidlna): lightweight DLNA/UPnP-AV server targeted at embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2+dfsg-1.1build1 (utopic), package size 135 kB, installed size 505 kB16:59
geniiredixin: Make sure you have the universe repository enabled16:59
redirbug posted. thanks to elfy genii and knome for the assists this morning.17:00
elfywelcome17:00
* redir hands out beers17:00
redixingenii, grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list http://dpaste.com/1JAQWDF17:01
knomeredir, what's the bug number?17:03
geniiInfo minidlna trusty-backports17:06
genii!Info minidlna trusty-backports17:06
genii!info minidlna trusty-backports17:07
ubottuminidlna (source: minidlna): lightweight DLNA/UPnP-AV server targeted at embedded systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2+dfsg-1~ubuntu14.04.1 (trusty-backports), package size 125 kB, installed size 468 kB17:07
geniiThere we go. Need more coffee :)17:07
geniiredixin: So looks like for 14.04 it's in backports, in 14.10 it's in universe17:07
redixingenii, oh, thanks a lot17:11
geniiredixin: You're welcome :)17:12
redirknome: 1448214 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/144821417:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1448214 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "lightdm-gtk-greeter uses 100% CPU and shows gray screen " [Undecided,New]17:12
knomeredir, mmh, right, this is likely not my bug, my screen isn't grey :/17:13
redirknome: could have een white... looked grey to me and there was a cursor visible. But that is it.17:15
knomeredir, bug 1410406 ?17:15
ubottubug 1410406 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "black screen after booting, 100% cpu usage" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141040617:15
redirknome: enabling debug in greeeter was very helpful17:15
knomeredir, no i mean i don't have any "blank" screen, but i definitely see something that could be switching monitors back and forth17:15
knomeredir, apart from the color, isn't it the same bug that what i pasted?17:16
redirlooks like it17:16
* redir goes to link the second to the first17:16
knomethanks :)17:17
redirI couldn't click to log in though.17:17
knomei'll link it then17:17
redirbut whatevs it is very much the same cause17:18
knomemarked as duplicate17:18
knomethanks for the attention and care :)17:18
elfyindeed - thanks redir :)17:19
redirnp17:23
sergio-br2heya17:45
sergio-br2does light locker implement freedesktop standard to screensavers?17:45
brainwashsergio-br2: you mean this https://github.com/the-cavalry/light-locker/commit/dfcfc9834241225c4bd9fccc9a77714a183b805c ?17:55
sergio-br2yeah, https://github.com/mupen64plus/mupen64plus-ui-python/issues/44#issuecomment-9585210617:56
sergio-br2is it already in trusty?17:56
brainwashno17:57
sergio-br2hum, so what I need to do? ppa backport?17:58
brainwashor compile from source17:59
brainwashhttps://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xubuntu-staging17:59
sergio-br2fear of brake my system here18:08
brainwashunderstandable18:09
sergio-br2Does someone tested it in trusty?18:09
knomesergio-br2, it sounds you'd better just stick with what you have, or upgrade to a newer version which has the new feature you want.18:10
sergio-br2yeha18:11
pjotterDid anybody succeed in installing the VirtualBox Guest Additions with 15.04?18:32
liquidsnakehaven't tried yet18:32
knomepjotter, did you try yourself?18:32
pjotterI'm trying... but so far it doesn't seem to work18:32
liquidsnakebut good question18:32
liquidsnakeyeah thats what i was afraid of18:33
knomepjotter, have you tried with the newest version from the virtualbox site?18:33
pjotterIt does seem to install... but the screen does not automatically resize as it should in VirtualBox after Guest Additions.18:33
pjotterknome I'm just using the one from software center at the moment18:34
pjotterVB version 4.3.1018:34
knomepjotter, you could try the guest additions from the virtualbox site, that has worked before in similar situations18:34
pjotterI'll try that18:35
elfypjotter: 4.3.10 ? I have a different version in 15.04 here from the repo18:37
elfyand it resizes18:38
pjotterI'm running it in Xubuntu 14.04. It has 4.3.1018:38
elfywhy did you say 15.04 then?18:38
pjotter?18:38
elfy[19:32] <pjotter> Did anybody succeed in installing the VirtualBox Guest Additions with 15.04?18:38
pjotterOk. I am running 14.04 and wanted to try out 15.04. So I'm doing that by running 15.04 in VirtualBox. So VirtualBox running on 14.04 with15.0418:39
elfy:) I'd not have said anything about it then18:39
pjotterThe VirtualBox of my 14.04 is version 4.3.1018:39
* genii makes more coffee18:39
pjotterIt wouldn't make much sense if I wanted to try out 15.04 from an installed 15.04 version18:40
knomepjotter, the guest additions are in a way more related to the host OS than the guest OS18:41
pjotterI know. Do you know where I can get the latest Guest Additions. I'm looking at the VB site but can't seemt o find it18:41
elfypjotter: you might be better off - removing the repo version and installing the oracle one18:42
pjotterI'll just try that18:43
pjotterThe new VB Guest additions come with the install, right?18:43
elfyyea - install from running guest18:44
pjotterOk, so far so good. I got VB version 4.3.26 installed now. Now let's see what happens when I start 15.04 :S18:49
pjotterOk, new Guest Addtions installed... rebooting...18:52
pjotterHurray! :D18:52
pjotterOk, so... appearently the 15.04 Version needs the latest VB and guest additions to run properly.18:53
pjotterNow let's see what's new in 15.04! Thanks people!18:53
pjotterToo bad.. the panel-trash-icon bug is still present...18:56
lucas-arghey all, ive just installed xubuntu 15.04 and installed some kde apps, first they look good with gtk theme but for some reason they look like windows 95 no theme at all... and ive done nothing...20:40
lucas-argany one knows how to fix this?20:40
knomeinstall and run qt4-qconfig and select "system" as the style20:41
knomethough that should work automatically..20:41
lucas-argok let me see20:41
lucas-argis it possible to happen if i update some packages?20:41
knomeif you installed 15.04 from a release ISO, then it should be correct already20:42
knome(eg. not a beta1 ISO)20:42
lucas-argive installed from official iso20:43
lucas-argthere was default selected in qt4 config20:43
lucas-argit was sorry20:43
lucas-argthat doesnt seem to be the problem20:44
lucas-argam i missing some packages?20:45
knomelucas-arg, sorry, "GTK+" should be selected20:46
lucas-arglet me see20:47
lucas-arggooooddd!!20:47
lucas-argthat did the trick20:47
lucas-arglove so much this OS20:47
knomethat's good to hear20:47
lucas-argdoes any one know where i can find help in rkwatd?21:10
bazhangwhat is rkwatd21:12
lucas-arga statistic program21:14
knomelucas-arg, ask the developers21:14
bazhangfrom the repos?21:14
lucas-argyes21:14
lucas-argusing R21:14
bazhang!info rkwatd21:14
ubottuPackage rkwatd does not exist in utopic21:14
lucas-argrkward21:15
bazhang!info rkward21:15
ubotturkward (source: rkward): KDE frontend to the R statistics language. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-1 (utopic), package size 1516 kB, installed size 4371 kB21:15
bazhangthe kde frontend21:15
bazhangfor xubuntu?21:16
bazhangessentially you want help with R, is that not correct21:17
lucas-argyeah21:17
bazhang /j #r  <they have a channel lucas-arg21:18
fatexshm release upgrade seems to have screwed up my mountpoints....im on xubuntu 15.04 now, seems it says "read only file system" mount: http://pastebin.com/LDSYJgwq21:25
fatexsanyone has an idea?21:25
knomewhere does it say that?21:27
fatexsinstantly when i connect via ssh21:27
fatexswhen i look at the screen it does not boot right... i only get a tty session21:28
knomedo you have free space on the HDD?21:28
fatexs./dev/sda2        52G   11G   38G  23% /21:29
fatexsfull df -h http://paste.ubuntu.com/10881470/21:31
fatexshm kay21:34
fatexsa simple mount -o rw,remount /dev/sda2 helped21:34
fatexsX is showing my login screen now...21:35
fatexsnice and shiny... but it donest accept my password21:35
fatexsdoesn't21:35
fatexsit looks like it just restart X when I hit enter21:36
fatexsI think all the "after reboot" stuff did not run yet21:37
fatexsso my installation is screwed i guess21:37
fatexsreally quiet channel here btw ;)21:41
GridCubepeople rarely have problems with xubuntu :321:49
knomemaybe it means not a lot of people need support; furthermore, we have #xubuntu-offtopic for general chatter21:49
fatexswell I never had a proble with release upgrade before either ;)21:50
fatexs+m21:50
fatexsfuck me I can't even sftp to it :X.... what the...21:50
knomefatexs, please watch your language as this is a family-friendly channel21:51
fatexsk21:51
MrPneguinDoes  anyone know what types of files and programs get saved when you upgrade xubuntu?21:52
MrPneguinGet carried over21:52
knomeMrPneguin, all of your personal files in /home are kept intact as well as the configuration you have done21:52
knomeMrPneguin, that doesn't mean it isn't a good idea to take backups...21:52
MrPneguinIs there  a chance files might not save properly?21:53
knomethere's always a possibility that something goes wrong, which is why you always should take backups21:53
fatexsi would say there is a cahnce it will not boot prooerly...21:53
MrPneguinIf it doesn't boot properly what steps do you take?21:55
MrPneguinBesides beckupsa21:55
MrPneguinbackups21:55
knomeMrPneguin, depends what the cause for it is21:56
MrPneguinDoes it also save third party programs?21:56
knomeeverything you have installed from the repositories is kept installed - if you have PPA's, those are temporarily disabled so you'll need to re-enable them and make sure you update your applications after the upgrade; if you have installed something that isn't managed by the package management, that is kept as is, but it's also possible that it might not work with the upgraded system21:57
fatexsquick question: how can I enable root accces via acp? :>21:57
fatexsscp*21:58
knomefatexs, you shouldn't.21:58
fatexswell I need to get my stuff before I do a clean install...21:58
fatexsbecause with my skillz I can't fix it apperantly21:59
MrPneguinI am going to get a high powered pc soon. Does it run fine on high powered machines? Any limitations?22:00
fatexsknome, how do you suggest I get my data back then?22:02
pjotterThere have been rare cases where problemes were caused beacuse of the pc being too fast. But in general it should run fine, even on high powered pc's.22:05
knomeMrPneguin, no limitations really.22:05
MrPneguinI really dont know if xubuntu is the best for a 1500 dollar build high performing pc though.22:07
pjotterFor instance: I had to write a script once that waited for network connection to be established before continuing because my pc booted too fast. But I believe that problem got solved in the newer versions now.22:07
knomeMrPneguin, it'll leave more of your resources to use for the tasks you want to do, instead of the system requiring more resources22:07
pjotterI haven't had any problems with that recently.22:08
fatexsknome, how do you suggest I get my data back then?22:08
fatexsif ssh/scp root is not possible?22:08
knomefatexs, sorry, i have no strong suggestions.22:08
knomei didn't say it isn't possible... i said you shouldn't22:08
fatexswell I don't know any other way of getting data of that thing...22:09
knomei don't understand why you need root access though22:10
fatexsI can't read /etc/ on my usual account22:10
MrPneguinyeah, I love the look of it but I dont really know if it's using the pc's full potential. Compared to Ubuntu, what do you think? pros and cons. I really appreciate your input :)22:10
fatexsand if I want to set up everything up nicely etc would really help...22:10
knomeMrPneguin, you are asking on the xubuntu channel; people here are going to tell you they prefer xubuntu - what else do you expect?22:11
MrPneguinlol, yeah22:11
knomefatexs, if you can mount /etc somehow, you can copy it somehow22:11
fatexswell it is mounted...22:11
knomefatexs, regular users can read /etc22:11
MrPneguinIs there any disadvantages running it on a high performance pc though?22:12
knomeMrPneguin, as i said, no22:12
fatexsknome, I get a lot of errors tho... maybe from deeper file inside etc...22:12
knomefatexs, you won't likely need everything from /etc when you do a clean install22:13
fatexswtf22:13
knomeplease.22:13
fatexshabbit sorry22:13
fatexsbut but but I need my samba conf my fstab for my raid 5 and some more stuff I forget...22:14
knomefatexs, if you copy /etc, you'll be able to cherry-pick those22:15
fatexsIm sorry that Im stupid but it took my hours to get it working22:15
knomeif single files give you errors, determine if they are something you need22:15
knomeit sounds weird that your system is in that state; maybe something you did got you in this situation to begin with22:15
fatexswell my system was perfercly fine until ./do releasy upgrade22:16
fatexsI guess that counts as " I did something" ;)22:16
fatexsbut it works 6 times ( the last 3 years)... I really thing the update is not working right with some installations22:17
fatexsappreciate your help tho knome22:17
fatexswith not working I mean 14.10->15.0422:18
fatexsthe rest was obviously working ;)22:18
knomeeverything is possible22:18
knomewelcome to help us with upgrade testing with the next development cycle22:19
fatexsI think next time I will stick with a backup first tho :D22:19
fatexsI would love to contribute but with my linux skills I don't think this will help much22:20
fatexsI got etc copied now...22:20
knomeyou've done an upgrade before? you have all the skills required.22:20
knomefatexs, http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa/#testing if you got interested22:21
fatexsI will think  about it when I get my pc back in order ;)22:21
knomefatexs, and fwiw, you should never enable the root account on ubuntu22:21
fatexsdon't tell anybody but Im using my old win7 laptop currently22:21
* knome tells fatexs's mum22:21
fatexsknome, well I know that... but it doesnt really matter it the installion is going to be redone anyway right?22:22
knomein this case, not likely, but for the future.22:22
fatexswell I worked 3 years without root...22:23
fatexsIt's not like that is the first think I do is enable root again...22:23
fatexswhere is that transmission config file? is it also under etc?22:25
knomelikely in your /home22:26
fatexsah22:26
fatexs mdadm --assemble md1  does nothing .... I will cry if my nice raid5 is broken :(22:34
fatexsanother question: can i display all installed packages? minus the default ones?22:35
knomefatexs, http://askubuntu.com/questions/2389/generating-list-of-manually-installed-packages-and-querying-individual-packages22:37
fatexsperfect! thanks!22:38
fatexsis /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf everything there is to a raid 5 or do I need somethign else?22:39
fatexsI'm just a bit worried I can't assemble my raid again after reinstall...22:40
fatexsokay22:51
fatexsmy raid is apperantly fine22:51
fatexsseems i broke df and it doesn't show my /opt/ mounts22:52
fatexs:)22:52
fatexsim off then ... thanks again knome!23:14

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