[00:00] i have used 15.04 [00:00] but i find 15.04 verry buiggy sometimes [00:00] (i am using 15.04) [00:00] Now kscreenloc is eating CPU [00:00] When I drag an application's window from one panel to another, it wants to get stuck in between the two panels. Does anyone know of a tweak to make it easy to drag things back and forth between the panels? [00:01] Taggnostr4: you get logged in? [00:01] No [00:01] It gets stuck on the loading window just after the login [00:01] are you using nouvea or nvidias binary? [00:02] With failsafe it just becomes black for a few seconds and kicks me back to the login screen [00:02] I have nvidia, maybe also their drivers [00:02] How can I check? [00:04] lspci -v [00:05] I see some nvidia stuff in the output [00:06] VGA compatible controller: nvidia corporation [00:07] sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia [00:08] I see 8 results [00:09] 5 with install, 3 with deinstall [00:11] tuv0k, should I remove/uninstall them? [00:11] try that [00:12] Using apt-get remove? [00:12] yup [00:14] nvidia is a pain the rear [00:15] Now I don't even get to the login screen... [00:16] reinstall === len is now known as Guest31612 [00:17] The nvidia drivers? [00:18] yes [00:18] muon is terrible [00:19] The terminal looks better without nvidia drivers :) [00:24] Got the login screen [00:25] Still stuck at the loading screen [00:25] Are there non nvidia drivers that I can use instead? [00:26] nouveau [00:26] but they were supposed to work once the nvidia ones were removed [00:26] I saw that in some error message earlier [00:27] What is the difference between all the nvidia drivers I see from apt? [00:28] I had nvidia-304, but I also see 310, 319, 331 etc [00:30] you want the newest one [00:30] 331 [00:30] OK [00:41] The most recent seems to be 346 [00:41] I'm installing that now [00:41] confirmed 346 [00:46] <|aaron> just upgraded from 14.10 to 1504. is there any way to restore my old kde configuration? i backed up my ~/.kde before upgrade but restoring seems to have zero effect [00:49] |aaron: as far as I know your KDE settings will not carry over [00:51] Even with 346 I get no login screen [00:51] The good thing is that no one is eating CPU now [00:52] <|aaron> gunndawg: thanks i can just reconfigure them i guess [00:52] Anything else I could try? === Guest11729 is now known as Guest88588 [01:10] With nouveau I get nouveau failed to idle channel [01:11] Also GPU lockup switching to fbcon [01:17] hey just wondering do i need to re install to get latest 15.04 or can i just upgrade i did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade no lux [01:22] never mind durr list latest version already updated i guess [01:30] Is there a way to not check for automatic updates with muon? [01:32] I managed to login and it's still all black, but I got some windows to pop up [01:32] The windows have no windows decorations [01:35] I got access to the settings page, any thing I try from there? [01:45] How can I revert back to 14.10? [01:46] You can only re-install. [01:46] How? [01:47] I'd also go with 14.04, the LTS. You grab the ISO, install. [01:47] I can't make 15.04 work [01:48] Do I need to reformat everything? [01:48] I believe there is a way to keep /home, but you can't "downgrade" [01:48] :/ [01:48] Hey Tagg, whats the problem? I had something similar from the sounds of it [01:49] and I managed to fix it. [01:49] or at least put a bandaid on it. [01:49] I get to the login screen, I login then either it's all black, or it gets stuck to the loading screen [01:50] Has it ever worked? [01:50] I had 14.10 before and had no problems [01:50] I have nvidia graphics [01:51] Spent 3 hours trying different combinations of drivers to no avail [01:52] Have you tried restarting X in a virtual terminal? Always seems to be a first step in comp stuff. "Have you tried turning it back on and off?" [01:52] How do I restart it? [01:53] kwin_x11 is eating all the CPU btw [01:54] So in full disclosure, I'm actually just a noob right, but I did fix a similar problem. So when I tell you 'restart' im not entirely sure whether this will actually RESTART. But while you are in the black screen, press ctrl+alt+F1 and stype startx [01:55] I tried that already, I get to another black screen [01:55] I can see the cursor but nothing else [01:56] anyone know why I have to adjust my openGL vertical sync settings every time I log in to fix screen tearing? [01:56] So basically the same I get after login [01:56] Taggnostr4: I had that problem last night [01:56] Have you tried going to the other x-sessions (I think thats the name of them) on the F6-F9? [01:56] Taggnostr4: it happened after I added a paramer to fix screen tearing. I had to re install [01:58] If I kill kwin_x11 go back to f7, and do alt+f1 I get the menu [01:58] Everything else is still black [01:58] Have you tried removing cache? [01:58] Taggnostr4: it's as if Plasma is not starting [01:58] I can open windows from the menu, but they have no borders [01:59] so go back in the virtual terminal and type: [01:59] sudo service sddm stop [01:59] rm -rf ~/.cache [01:59] rm ~/.config/kwinrc [01:59] then type startx [02:00] Is what finnally fixed my issue with the black screen on login [02:01] Still black :/ [02:01] Well damn [02:01] I can try a reboot [02:01] anyone know why I have to adjust my openGL vertical sync settings every time I log in to fix screen tearing? [02:01] Always worth it I guess Tagg. [02:02] I think the problem is kwin_x11 getting stuck at 100% CPU [02:02] Now it started again and nothing works [02:03] Well, if it that were truely the case, would you be able to go into a virtual terminal? Because if it was truely 100% then Im not sure it would respond. [02:03] But maybe there is some kind of safety net for that. [02:03] I can, and if I kill it I can see the undecorated windows === kubuntu is now known as Guest53946 [02:06] Did it ever work on a live USB or have you only tried it on an installation? [02:06] I upgraded directly from 14.10 [02:07] I'm trying a different nvidia driver [02:07] Ah. Try it on a live USB, if it doesn't work there, I would suspsect driver issues. If it works there, but not on the upgrade then I would suspect something went wrong on the upgrade. [02:07] Rather than a driver [02:08] During upgrade I got a prompt that asked me to pick between lightdm and sddm and initially picked lightdm [02:09] Now I switched to sddm, but maybe something is not set correctly? [02:09] I'm unfamilliar with the technicalities behind the display managers. Noob afterall. [02:10] Do you have a plasma process running? [02:10] Maybe gunndawg is right [02:10] plasmashell [02:11] I could try to start that [02:11] Give it a shot [02:14] Nope [02:15] Well hmm. [02:17] ps [02:17] woops. [02:17] wrong tab. [02:18] Is there an option to make the kubuntu start menu look like xubuntus with the columns? [02:19] I wonder if there's a way to disable all the graphic effects [02:20] gunndawg, I just found an option about tearing prevention [02:21] anyone use kamera [02:22] the package installs with no binary [02:22] come on! [02:30] Now I can't even access the shell anymore [02:30] Taggnostr4: yeah? where at? [02:30] just keep home and reinstall fresh [02:31] gunndawg, try to go in settings and write vertical tearing or vsync at the top right [02:31] darthanubis, from a live CD? [02:32] oh... well thsi is interesting. Opened up Sytem Settings and it errors out saying "System sEttings was unable to find any views, and hence has nothing to display" [02:33] Taggnostr4: so I guess I cant even get to settings now :( [02:34] I can't get anywhere anymore [02:34] Taggnostr4: yeah I cant open system settings [02:34] Even the virtual terminals? [02:35] I start the PC, everything is black, no login screen, no virtual terminals, and the CPU is running high [02:35] Yep, sounds like fresh reinstall time. [02:35] sounds like back to 14.04 for the time being.. heh [02:35] :/ [02:37] I can get to recovery mode [02:37] yes, from a livecd or usb stick [02:38] If I can get to a shell maybe I can fix something [02:39] if anything delete your .kde directory if you want to keep futzing around [02:39] but I'd install clean [02:39] I just installed clean in 10 mins [02:39] but I have a ssd [02:40] It took me about 4 hours between install and download [02:40] I had updated from beta and there was a bug that did not leave until I reinstalled [02:40] i was at 14.10, and just tried to upgraded kde [02:40] And I have to leave for the weekend in a couple of hours [02:40] it broke [02:40] start your install now [02:41] why does it take 4 hours? [02:41] download via torrent [02:41] I have to download again, don't I? [02:41] I got the login back \o/ [02:41] you never download it to begin with right? [02:41] Nope, I did do-release-upgrade [02:42] yeah, well get the iso [02:42] The installation also took a couple of hours [02:42] why? [02:42] Old PC [02:42] Did you run into problems? Im not sure it took mine remotely that long, but that was from a liveUSB. [02:42] what specs? [02:43] i386? [02:43] Core 2, 2 GB of ram [02:43] It's from 8-9 years ago [02:43] thats plenty [02:43] should not take 4 hours [02:43] noway [02:44] what kind of HD? [02:44] 2 were from the download [02:44] The rest from the installation [02:44] still, does not take two hours to install [02:44] the install process is not that long [02:44] It could have been 2.5 and 1 for installation [02:44] Sshd [02:44] lol [02:44] no way two hours [02:44] or an hour [02:45] I could be wrong [02:45] on a ssd [02:45] Took me 22 minutes on an SSD. [02:45] absolutely [02:45] exactly [02:45] And I downloaded updates while I did it. [02:45] At what time I logged in? [02:45] don't download the iso directly, download via torent [02:45] it'll be faster [02:46] I will have to find another PC first [02:46] what are you using to type this? [02:47] Phone [02:48] yikes [02:48] Phone IRC? Ive never thought about that. [02:48] queassel-droid [02:48] quassel-droid === max_ is now known as Guest50333 === Guest50333 is now known as makuseru [02:49] Just wondering if anyone knows a fix for not being able to add programs to the panel in 15.04 now? [02:50] Is there any way to reinstall/repair from the terminal? [02:52] If I try to remove nouveau I get an error [02:52] Taggnostr4: your upgrade is trashed [02:52] makuseru: what do you mean? [02:52] not add to the panel? Add in what way? [02:53] Taggnostr4: Im checking around, and Im not seeing anything for you to be able to do so from the terminal. I'm with darthanubis, its probably gone, and its better to just reinstall from an ISO. [02:54] OK [02:54] and to be honest, if there is way, its proabbly more effort than its worth. If you make a liveUSB, you can retrieve whatever important files off of there and store it somewhere else. [02:55] I'm just not sure I have enough time to download it again [02:55] Matter of fact, do you still have the ISO for the previous version? Use that to download the new ISO while you're gone. [02:55] your wasting time now [02:56] it could have been half way done by now [02:56] I'm leaving for the weekend, so I won't need the PC anyway [02:56] I will probably try again once I come back [02:57] darthanubis: In KDE 4 you could add programs from the KMenu to the panel, like firefox, or w/e else. But that feature seems to be missing now. [03:00] I just add them as favorites in the menu [03:00] rt-click an application in kmenu then select favorite [03:00] or alt-f2 and type the name [03:00] Right, but you use to be able to add them directly to the panel as well, which is much easier to use IMO. [03:01] I suppose if you really wanted to, you could add a new panel [03:01] Isn't KDE built of all widgets, or no? It's what it seems to me anyway. [03:01] nope, you still can do it! [03:01] I won't be doing it [03:02] but it is as easy as drop and drop [03:02] just unlock the panel first [03:02] Its not as easy as drag and drop. [03:02] It will not accept that anymore. [03:03] I just did it [03:03] Really? Mine wont allow a drag and drop at all. [03:03] I figured they just got rid of that feature. [03:03] yes [03:03] I just grabbed chromium from my favorites, and dragged i tto the panel, and dropped it [03:03] Huh, might have to try a fresh reinstall instead of this upgrade from 14.10 then, maybe something broke. [03:04] it fell near the notification area [03:04] doubt it [03:05] Dont know what the heck is going on then, because theres no way its letting me drag something into the panel. [03:17] Im using two monitors, is it possible to have setup a panel to show only the applications on that monitor and have it automatically assign the applications to whatever panel its supposed to be on? [03:45] I need help please with an issue I'm having with Precise on a powerpc === kubuntu is now known as Guest44418 === Guest44418 is now known as Zerkalerka [04:06] Curious as to how many found 15.04 usable... sadly I ran into obvious instability and had to return to 14.10. [04:07] using it [04:13] darthanubis: one of the lucky ones I suppose [04:13] I don't consider my hardware and setup anything special [04:14] It certainly runs 14.10 just fine minus sound issues [04:14] Seems it has something to do with the new Plasma look which I love [04:14] I only have sometime weird things happen. But I just clean installed, and all is well. [04:15] I keep /home and kept on rolling [04:16] I'm using plasma 5.3beta which is a little unstable [04:17] With the Plasma as part of 15.04 I would lose the panel, opening apps would freeze, and eventually I get nothing but a black screen and was frozen [04:18] Was worse it seemed if I upgraded to nvidia-current driver [04:19] did you upgrade or clean install? [04:19] I'm betting you upgraded [04:20] Nope, clean install [04:20] wow [04:20] Seems to be a theme tonight. [04:20] Welcome to the club [04:20] what kind of machine you have? [04:21] I don't know how you guys systems break in such spectacular fashion? [04:21] Taggnostr4: you upgraded [04:21] Intel Core i7 3930K 3.20 with 32 GB ram [04:22] and running three monitors [04:22] QualityAddict: what are you doing with 32 gigs if you don't mind me asking? [04:22] nice [04:22] I'm dual monitored no problem [04:22] lmao, surfing the web [04:22] lol [04:22] I'm not using it to its potential, that's for sure [04:23] plasma crashes when I add widgets to the desktop, but starts back up. I suspect if I rolled back to 5.2 it'd be stable [04:23] hello [04:23] Anyone have recommendations for system stability software? [04:23] planning on overclocking [04:24] how can I tell what graphics card I have installed? I know it's nvidia but want the model [04:24] Tried looking in KInfoCenter but don't see it [04:25] are you on a laptop? [04:25] Desktop [04:25] You mean like running intelburntest to make sure any instability is caught? [04:26] n/m found it, running a GeForce GTX 660 Ti [04:27] Haven't done that in a while, but it give it a pretty good torture test, and will likey be stable if it can survive a long run without crashing. [04:35] rollin' a do-release-upgrade for the heck of it... see what happens lol [04:37] plasma 5.3 is wicked unstable [04:39] sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta === xubuntu is now known as Guest12413 === len is now known as Guest4185 === archos is now known as sedjem === archos is now known as sedjem [06:02] hi, is it normal that after upgrading to vivid, Dolphin filemanagers about box says it's 14.12.3 with KDE Developent Platform version 4.14.6 [06:03] as other apps like Kate for example is KDE Frameworks 5.9.0 [06:04] yup it's normal, not everything has been completely ported to kf5 yet [06:04] http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html [06:04] alright. thanks! making sure that i didn't mess up the update somehow. [06:05] my problem is that these not ported apps don't seem to respect all theme colors. dolphin has pure white font in menues and i dont seem to be able to change that anywhere.. [06:05] ? === alan_ is now known as Guest28313 [06:14] Anyone know what the name of the font used by Konsole was in Plasma 4? I just updated to Plasma 5 and it stomped all over my settings, I can barely read my terminals now [06:16] NM, found it. Dejavu [06:16] <3 [06:36] how to remove kwallet in plasma 5, kubuntu 15.04 [06:36] or how to disable it? [06:38] madeti: it save your password. Why do you want to remove it? You can just set an empty password and it will stop bothering you. [06:39] donnie: it's just annoying [06:46] donnie: I have set an empty password, now when I am connecting to a wifi, it says "authorization supplicant timed out" === quanon is now known as Guest63197 === pesa is now known as Guest22160 [06:56] nvm sorted it out === donniezazen_ is now known as donniezazen === aljosa_ is now known as aljosa === StFS_ is now known as StFS === kubuntu is now known as Guest3059 === Guest3059 is now known as twager [07:31] Good morning. [07:31] Oi lordievader [07:32] morning [07:32] Hey Graf_Westerholt, MoonUnit` === juboxi is now known as jubo2 === David1977 is now known as Guest31960 [09:07] !info plasma-desktop [09:08] plasma-desktop (source: kde-workspace): KDE Plasma workspace for desktop and laptop computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.11.12-0ubuntu1.1 (utopic), package size 1202 kB, installed size 3099 kB === floown_ is now known as floown [09:36] Hi! I just installed Kubuntu 15.04. After sleep/screen-standby the login prompt appears. How can this switched off? The old checkbox (Power management > advanced > lock screen after resume) is not available anymore. [09:46] hyperion87: it's in settings/desktop behaviour/screen locking. [09:47] MoonUnit`: Thanks, found it! :) [09:48] wasn't obvious for me either [09:57] Hi i am trying Kubuntu 15.04 live dvd 64bit but, as lots of people have encountered, i get a blank display after some time. It is obviously a graphics card issue. My Graphics card is a GeForce 9600 GT which is old i know. I tried selecting nomodeset and no acpi modes but i get the same blank display. Does anybody have anything to suggest? [09:59] Hi all, sorry to barge in. I may have a bug in the install medium and wanted to check this before reporting it [10:00] The grub-install fails because a directory /boot/grub/i386 is missing from the installation medium, on the 64-bit version. [10:00] can anyone confirm or deny? === PhilippeP_ is now known as PhilippeP [10:02] i haven't had that problem [10:09] it is the 64 bit version [10:09] and it installs on a non-efi system [10:09] basically when I boot from the installer-usb, the directory /boot/grub does not contain a dir 'i386' (or any other subdirs). [10:10] I found the subdir somewhere on the drive, copied it to /boot/grub and then I got another error: Cannot find cannonical name for /cow . [10:11] It is so strange, it seems completely untested while this step is completely essential for any installation. Weird. [10:11] do you have multiple drives? [10:12] one drive, trying to install to /sda [10:13] ok, it has a windows partition but the error stems from a non-existing directory [10:13] that is what I find when I run 'grub-install' manually: '/boot/grub/i386' directory not found [10:16] I am going to try the ubuntu-64 bit version in a couple of minutes, see if it has the same bug [10:16] perhaps it is because I install 64-bit on a pre-EFI system? I don't know [10:17] non efi would be easier to install on i would think, mine install is x64 and bios. [10:19] I have the same then, 64 and bois [10:19] bios [10:31] He! Installation just succeeded! [10:31] I was installing it with a btrfs root-partition. This time I had the same but added a small ext4 /boot partition [10:32] I am going to reboot, bye! [10:32] so it may have been trying to install a btrfs-system. [10:37] need an onscreen keyboard [10:56] Hey folks [10:56] hi [11:00] Hi i am trying Kubuntu 15.04 live dvd 64bit but, as lots of people have encountered, i get a blank display after some time. It is obviously a graphics card issue. My Graphics card is a GeForce 9600 GT which is old i know. I tried selecting nomodeset and no acpi modes but i get the same blank display. I tried adding in the options before 'quite splash' one of the following: video=vga16fb:off , vga16fb.modeset=0 , nouveau.modeset=0 , nvidia.modeset=0 , [11:00] nouveau.blacklist=1 and nomodeset after 'quite splash'. Nothing worked. Does anybody have anything to suggest? [11:02] naftilos76, yes, install nvidia-340 atht the TTY/VT [11:03] atht=at [11:04] BluesKaj: I am trying to install kubuntu now. I have not installed it. The problem appears while booting from the live dvd. [11:05] naftilos76, which Kubuntu version do you have instlled on the HDD , if any ? [11:06] hi @all [11:06] does adding vesa from grub edit still work these days? [11:06] I am currently using Debian 7 (kubuntu) [11:06] i had to do that when i had nvidia cards [11:06] and kubuntu 14.04 in my laptop [11:07] both installed fine with no blank screens [11:07] and both have nvidia Graphics cards [11:08] naftilos76, did you check md5sum of the dvd image?, I have to ask [11:09] anyone here also having probs upgrading to 15.04 from 14.10? on my laptop the online-upgrade stopped at 92%. nothing more to do than reboot what ended in blinking leds (kernel panic?). on my workstation it stays at 64% and there happens nothing anymore?! [11:09] BluesKaj: need an onscreen keyboard [11:10] No i did not. I seriously doubt that is the culprit. We are talking about an issue that has been around in the recent releases of 14.10 & 15.04 all tried out in both my desktop [11:12] naftilos76, this may be a radical suggestion , but have you considered switching your graphics in the bios back to the onboard temporarily just for installation purposes? [11:13] BluesKaj: wont work [11:13] There is no on-board Graphics card. Good thought but not applicable in my case. :-) === tim_ is now known as tim__ [11:13] BluesKaj: the card needs to be removed [11:14] I just don't get. Is it so difficult to support Graphics cards 5-years old? [11:14] BluesKaj: can you suggest me an onscreen keyboard? [11:14] naftilos76: you should really ask this question to the nvidia people [11:15] probably! :-) [11:15] naftilos76, you must havew an onboard gpu that resides on the motherboard ...it worked for me on an old pc with a nvidia 7600GT card with 12.04 install. [11:17] murthy, some BIOSs have a switchable graphics option [11:17] hi there [11:17] Im having trouble with the display driver [11:17] BluesKaj: I was sure my MB did not have an onboard graphics card. I just confirm this is the case. [11:18] on older machines , murthy [11:18] ... I just confirmed this is the case. [11:18] driver admin dont show installed driver [11:18] naftilos76, not a card but a gpu , how else would it display to a monitor [11:19] BluesKaj: I do have that option, but I think we have to switch the vga cable to the onboad gpu output atleast [11:20] murthy, well yeah, that's kind of understood is it not? [11:20] BluesKaj: I am aware how an onboard GPU would look. It would need a VGA output or another port right? Well, there are no ports for a display except for the nvidia card i have installed! [11:21] BluesKaj: i had this night mare of swithching graphics driver, when I didn't know how to handle the nvidia binary driver issues [11:21] you must have a vga display on the mobo [11:23] how can I know the driver installed [11:23] ok nm , I'm not going any further with this , I wanted to make an alternate suggestion that's all , but I guess it's too difficult for you naftilos76 [11:24] BluesKaj: Seriously? I do not have an onboard GPU on my MB. I would have known if i had one. [11:24] What is so difficult for me? To accept that i have a GPU on my MB when i don't? [11:24] naftilos76, when you received the the computer did it come with the nvidia pci 9600? [11:25] yep [11:25] it was assembled and sent to me [11:25] it's a pci card? [11:26] i mean the tower box containing the mb, graphics cards , dvd-writer, power supply etc [11:26] What is so strange about it? [11:27] Isn't that the way shops sell products? [11:27] or is IT the onboard gpu ? [11:27] most shops don't sell computers with added PCI graphics cards [11:28] Just installed kubuntu for the first time, very beautiful.. only distro that works 840m nvidia out of box [11:28] BluesKaj: Do not inisist on the onboard GPU crap. The graphics card is a Nvidia Geforce GT9600 installed in a pcix port on a normal MB sold by normal shops bought by normal people!!! [11:29] Zerkalerka: did you have probles identifying graphic driver? [11:29] probles=problems [11:29] Anyone managed to get Dropbox working with Ubuntu 15.04? [11:30] dropbox working fine for me. [11:30] have to install a tray app to see the dropbox tray icon though. [11:31] BluesKaj: thanks for your time man [11:31] i have to go [11:31] chencho9000: No, when I select it to install recommeneded nvidia driver it just works. Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and Arch all give me black screen when I have 2nd monitor plugged in... kubuntu.. just works :) [11:32] ok naftilos76, it's very unusual to have no onboard gpu, that's all . [11:32] :-) [11:32] my i7 doesn't have onboard gpu [11:34] MoonUnit`, we're dealing with an older pc here, which to my knowledge all cane with gpus...I had 5 pcs over the yrs they all had them [11:37] hi - I am running Plasma 5.2 (kubuntu 15.04) - I have nvidia, I have 2 issues [11:37] Issue 1: After installing Nvidia driver DPI is set to 102X102 - it makes the title bars on the windows look far too big and chunky (child like )- I need to set the DPI to 96x96 and the kwin windows looks normal again [11:37] It is best to force the fonts using system-settings -> fonts or is it best to define the DPI in the device section of xorg.conf ? [11:39]