[00:46] <dobey> Azelphur: sure. you should create a chroot of ubuntu to instally any such packages like that. running x86 code under qemu on arm would be excruciatingly slow though
[00:47] <Azelphur> dobey, hopefully fast enough, I just wanna play FTL :P
[00:47] <dobey> i doubt it will be fast enough :)
[00:47] <Azelphur> really? have you seen FTL? It's not exactly crysis
[00:48] <Azelphur> but that's interesting what you mentioned, can you create a full Ubuntu install inside Ubuntu touch but running natively on ARM? that'd be extremely useful to me
[00:48] <dobey> Azelphur: eh, i have 10+ year old games that are even slow on my i7 with 16GB of RAM
[00:48] <dobey> sure, you can create a chroot of ubuntu, but it's not quite the same as running an ISO of ubuntu
[00:49] <Azelphur> dobey, any docs for that?
[00:49] <Azelphur> dobey, also, FTL is essentially a spreadsheet... http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/212680/ss_052d698926073e8d407a864f0e63a486af24ec0d.600x338.jpg?t=1416970361
[00:50] <dobey> the interaction model isn't what makes it fast or slow
[00:51] <dobey> converting floating point x86 operations to run on top of arm is going to be slow. heck, even running the ubuntu phone image in the emulator on my i7 is slow :)
[00:52] <dobey> and that's running i386 on top of amd64
[00:54] <dobey> i'm sure FTL uses some GL operations that the phone hardware might not support as well, so it might not even run. and i presume you acquired it via steam, which means it will probably need steam running as well
[03:30] <Azelphur> dobey, actually doesn't require steam, despite being acquired through steam it's drm free
[03:30] <Azelphur> but yea, I've been wanting to get something x86 that has the size/battery life of my Nexus 7 for exactly these reasons, I'd love something ~7" that runs a full nix disto properly
[06:56] <EdwardMorbius> morning, anyone knows if wifi tethering/hotspot planned for UT?
[06:59] <EdwardMorbius> everyone asleep it seems :)
[07:45] <nhaines> EdwardMorbius: You'll generaly have better luck during the workweek and during European business hours.  :)
[07:46] <nhaines> But as it turns out, yes, tethering and hotspot are on the roadmap.  There's some terminal command you can use to enable tethering, I think.  But once it's all working well it'll end up in System Settings somewhere.
[07:46] <EdwardMorbius> nhaines thanks, is that planned for 15.04?
[08:31] <dadexix86> Hello, I have some huge problems with the synced contacts from Google. Some of them are not correctly synced. Some show one or more phone numbers but some show nothing (and I don't see any pattern in why this some yes/some no). is it a known bug?
[08:35] <dadexix86> this is a problem because when someone calls me and this random "wrong sync" occured on her/his number I do not see the name
[08:40] <EdwardMorbius> try deleting the account and readding it, I dont have such issues on my bq.
[08:42] <dadexix86> EdwardMorbius, done already. the same contacts have the same problem
[08:43] <dadexix86> mh... I may have found the "ratio". some of the wrong synced are merged from other contacts
[08:43] <dadexix86> merged on android but not on the google website
[08:43] <EdwardMorbius> then maybe you should edit your contacts on google and try again
[08:44] <dadexix86> if I merge them again then they are synced correctly
[08:44] <dadexix86> but the synced photos are now messed up, some are from the first contact, some from the second
[08:45] <dadexix86> I edit them on google website and try again
[08:47] <EdwardMorbius> okay
[08:56] <dadexix86> ok, manipulating them from google website solved the problem :)
[08:56] <dadexix86> do you know if there is a way to see the email of the contacts?
[09:07] <EdwardMorbius> you mean on the phone on the contact profile?
[09:08] <dadexix86> EdwardMorbius, yes on the phone. In the contact profile or anywhere else :)
[09:08] <EdwardMorbius> contacts-tap the contact then tap the icon on the right-it will open up contact details-there in the upper right corner there is a pencil like icon
[09:09] <EdwardMorbius> tap that and you will be able to see more details and "Add Field" for email
[09:09] <dadexix86> uuuuh! the icon on the right! that was definitely counter-intuitive for me! :)
[09:10] <dadexix86> I was tapping the photo, the name, long tapping, swiping... but the icon on the right was out of my mind :P
[09:10] <EdwardMorbius> on Ubuntu Touch most such settings are on top right icon so you can keep that in mind ;) :)
[09:12] <dadexix86> yeah, I went in the top right also ;) I was hoping for a "Contact Details" label there :P
[09:13] <dadexix86> but that icon is not top right, it's just "right" :)
[09:18] <EdwardMorbius> well its sorted out now so its good :)
[10:59] <sturmflut_> popey, Elleo, mzanetti: If you have the time it would be nice if you had a look at http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/04/24/ubuntu-touch-app-wishlist-april-2015/ again
[11:06] <popey> sturmflut_: i was looking at it just yesterday with Robert Ancell :)
[11:06] <popey> oh, this is a new list?
[11:07] <sturmflut_> popey: Yes, new and updated and now with even more lasers
[11:07] <sturmflut_> (lasers not included)
[11:07] <popey> \o/ lasers
[11:10] <sturmflut_> popey: Basically I went through a couple of Android magazines, looked at their app recommendations and completed my list
[11:12] <peat-psuwit> Do you have any tip for compiling gst-plugins-bad1.0?
[11:12] <peat-psuwit> It says it cannot find mir_toolkit/mir_c
[11:13] <peat-psuwit> lient_library.h
[11:14] <sturmflut_> peat-psuwit: Sorry, no
[11:17] <popey> sturmflut_: what would also be neat is a list of (or sub-list) of suggested scopes
[11:17] <popey> like, online services which have known well-documented APIs
[11:17] <popey> which people could create scopes for
[11:17] <sturmflut_> popey: Oh, that is true. I'll think of something.
[11:35] <BOHverkill> sturmflut_: nice list :)
[11:37]  * DanChapman is considering a simple scope to show the last 20-30 emails received in dekko. And let someone else aggregate that into a cool scope view
[11:37] <popey> oooh!
[11:43] <sturmflut_> BOHverkill: Thanks! It was quite a lot of work.
[11:48] <BOHverkill> sturmflut_: is this only your list or can I give you hints for missing apps?
[12:42] <sturmflut_> BOHverkill: Even better, you can clone https://github.com/Sturmflut/sturmflut.github.io, make changes to the article and send me a pull request ;)
[12:42] <BOHverkill> sturmflut_: k thx
[12:52] <sturmflut_> mandel: tvoss just changed "Affects" from location-service to qtubuntu-sensors in bug 1448180. I pulled the code and I think I see the problem, only core::GeoPositionInfoSource was implemented, but core::GeoSatelliteInfoSource wasn't, right?
[13:15] <mzanetti> anyone has a hint on how to best connect the ubuntu phone to OSX? (mainly for music & pictures)
[13:16] <popey> mzanetti: http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/106156/does-mavericks-support-mtp
[13:16] <popey> needs an app
[13:16] <mzanetti> yeah... obviously there's plenty of choice. hoped someone would tell me some app that is known to work
[13:21] <popey> ahh
[13:27] <mzanetti> ok. Android File Transfer for OSX seems to work fine with the Ubuntu Phone
[13:29] <popey> yay
[13:30] <mzanetti> the robot is a bit "in your face" though :D Would prefer an Ubuntu logo in there
[13:46] <nick_> hi
[13:47] <Guest49411> i got a question about the ubuntu phone update cycle
[13:48] <Guest49411> is ubuntu phone just some sort of GUI with the same ubuntu underneath?
[13:48] <Guest49411> like ubuntu desktop
[13:49] <popey> kinda
[13:53] <Guest49411> cool. so if i buy the available ubuntu phone and it is buggy, i get free fixes und OS updates just like on ubuntu desktop?
[13:53] <Guest49411> like... forever?
[13:53] <popey> thats the plan
[13:53] <Guest49411> that sound awesome. i hate it that android phone run out of updates. thats just marketing
[13:54] <Guest49411> this should just suggest your phone is too old. but the developer make it look old
[13:55] <Guest49411> i dont think thats the right way :)
[13:56] <Guest49411> thanks for helping me out!
[13:57] <popey> np
[14:23] <sturmflut|afk> mzanetti, popey: So Apple stuff doesn't support MTP out of the box?
[14:24] <mzanetti> sturmflut|afk, no
[15:01] <ilario> Hi! Maybe a bug in messaging-app, I didn't find it in the reported bug list: when I receive a SMS from my mobile operator (sender: "Orange") the messaging app doesn't show me the message. Here you are: from the homepage of the app I can see something https://i.imgur.com/Z2srX2A.png but then there's nothing in the conversation https://i.imgur.com/OZXoeQS.png . Should I report this bug? Someone experienced something like this?
[15:44] <sturmflut> ilario: Looks like a bug you should report
[15:44] <ilario> ok :)
[16:13] <ilario> reported here :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/messaging-app/+bug/1448492
[16:29] <dadexix86> hello! does anyone know of a countdown app?
[16:30] <dadexix86> obviously with an alarm when the  time reaches zero
[16:43] <Dogsbody> In there any way to install Ubuntu Touch on an old Nexus 7 (2012) or is it completely depreciated now?
[16:43] <Dogsbody> I've tried a number of things all day but not gotten anywhere :-/
[17:01] <sturmflut> dadexix86: Hmmm, the standard "Clock" app had a timer, but I can't find it as well
[17:02] <sturmflut> dadexix86: It still says "A sophisticated clock app that provides timer, stopwatch, alarm and world clock functionality."
[17:10] <dadexix86> sturmflut, yes indeed, but I cannot find it :P
[17:10] <sturmflut> strange
[17:19] <dadexix86> probably it was removed at some point but no one changed the description.
[17:20] <sturmflut> dadexix86: Ah, there was a redesign once, the Clock App Reboot
[17:26] <sturmflut> Is there any documentation on how to manually cross-rebuild a package inside a chroot?
[17:34] <ilario> hi! I have the BQ Aquaris with the Ubuntu edition cover (this cover: https://static-bqreaders.s3.amazonaws.com/img/web/productView/aquaris-e4-5-ubuntu/accesorios/02_500.jpg ) and I would like to have the clock in the center of the welcome screen (lock screen) instead of on the top, so I can read the time without opening the cover. In my opinion this should be toggled by the option "Security&Privacy > Stats on welcome screen" that
[17:34] <ilario> actually leaves in the circle a non useful message "No data sources available".
[17:37] <dadexix86> ilario, I already submitted something similar bug 1446654
[17:37] <dadexix86> please say that it affects also yourself, so maybe some develor will have a look at it eventually :)
[17:37] <dadexix86> *developer
[17:39] <ilario> +1 :D
[17:43] <dadexix86> ilario, thanks!
[17:43] <dadexix86> have a nice evening!
[17:43] <ilario> thanks to you :)
[18:02] <ilario> for reporting a bug on telegram app: which is the name of the package? I can't find it...
[18:09] <cwayne> ilario, https://launchpad.net/libqtelegram
[18:11] <ilario> cwayne, thanks, but when I issue "apport-bug libqtelegram" on the phone I obtain "The problem cannot be reported: The report belongs to a package that is not installed."
[18:12] <cwayne> ilario, it's not a deb package, but a click package
[18:12] <cwayne> so apport-bug won't do it
[18:12] <ilario> wut... ok
[18:13] <cwayne> ilario, you'll have to log it the old fashioned way :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+filebug
[18:13] <ilario> ok :)
[19:43] <sturmflut> Any ideas on ubuntu-device-flash exiting with "Failed to enter Recovery", bug 1427359?
[19:45] <sturmflut> I made the system image writeable and now can't go back
[21:37] <cwayne_> mardy_, you around?
[22:27] <neon_squirrel>  Is there any word on Ubuntu Phone for the Nexus 6, or is there a way to run full Ubuntu on it because it's an ARM processor?
[22:28] <beuno> neon_squirrel, Ubuntu Phone runs on arm
[22:28] <beuno> the BQ device is arm
[22:28] <beuno> however, there is no official port, nor is there one planned
[22:29] <k1l> ubuntu-desktop can run on arm.
[22:29] <neon_squirrel> beuno, That sucks...I was hoping for at least a community port. Why the discrepancy between the Nexus 5 and 6?
[22:29] <beuno> neon_squirrel, there is no official port for Nexus 5 either  :)
[22:30] <k1l> but you dont want to use a "regular desktop" on a smartphone-display with touch. its just hell to click on all the stuff and not having a right click
[22:30] <beuno> neon_squirrel, there is no official port for Nexus 5 either  :)
[22:30] <beuno> we use Nexus 4 as a common device, and now also the BQ device
[22:30] <neon_squirrel> nlh4327admin
[22:30] <beuno> we won't aim to support devices ourselves, but rather support devices that will ship Ubuntu pre-installed
[22:31] <beuno> the rest will be in the hands of the community
[22:31] <k1l> there is a community port for nexus5 iirc. but there was something about the nexus6. i think its just to expensive for the regular guys who do the porting.
[22:31] <beuno> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[22:32] <neon_squirrel> k1l, If I can run desktop on an ARM, e.g. my Nexus 6, what image do I use? I found the links for ARM for server, but I don't know if that's the right link.
[22:32] <beuno> neon_squirrel, it's all about the drivers
[22:32] <k1l> neon_squirrel: there is no "one iso" for arm. we dont have generic drivers for ARM stuff like we do have on the desktop
[22:32] <beuno> they won't generally be available, or in the kernel
[22:33] <beuno> *vanilla kernel
[22:33] <k1l> so the ARM.iso for nexus6 will not run on the samsung galaxy s6. so you need to make a iso for every device.
[22:34] <neon_squirrel> k1l, that sounds way more complicated than I want to get, haha. I'll stick with flashing CM, I think :D
[22:35] <k1l> neon_squirrel: see the wiki linked or on xda if someone did a port with ubuntu-touch already.
[22:35] <neon_squirrel> I'll take a look.
[22:36] <k1l> but believe me, you dont want a regular desktop os like (ubuntu desktop) on your smartphone, because they are not optimized for touch and that small displays.
[22:38] <neon_squirrel> Yeah, I did the VNC/dual boot Debian thing once on a Kindle Fire. Huge pain in the ass.
[22:38] <neon_squirrel> http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/how-to-install-ubuntu-touch-primary-rom-t2911502
[22:38] <neon_squirrel> This is in the Nexus 5 thread, but if it works on Lollipop with the Nexus 5, is there a reason it won't work with the 6? Drivers, I assume.
[22:40] <k1l> yep
[22:41] <neon_squirrel> Damn. Oh well :) I'll stick with CM. Thanks, guys. I can also forsee problems with installing those programs on Arch :)
[22:43] <cwayne_> nexus6 is also android 5, while the ports use 4.4 still
[23:36] <spok> Can I use voip with Ubuntu touch?