[05:06] <moreati> Does http://www.engadget.com/ kill the browser tab in Chrome(ium) for any of you?
[05:39]  * zmoylan-pi fires up chromium...
[05:42] <zmoylan-pi> he's dead jim...
[05:44] <zmoylan-pi> a 1gb netbook so closing down almost every other program and repeating...
[05:47] <zmoylan-pi> and still dead as a dodo
[05:49] <zmoylan-pi> works fine in my normal browser which on this old slow system is qupzilla a lite browser
[06:05] <knightwise> good morning everyone
[06:26] <knightwi1e> whois Knightmare
[06:26] <knightwi1e> mor'ning Knightmare
[06:31] <knightwi1e> hey  Chl
[06:33] <Knightmare> Morning
[06:33] <knightwi1e> hey Knightmare , how are you doin over there in TX
[06:35] <Knightmare> TX?
[06:35] <Knightwise> arent you in the us ?
[06:35] <Knightmare> No
[06:35] <Knightwise> Sorry , you are on the TX freenode server :) my bad
[06:35] <Knightwise> read the whois wrong
[06:36] <Knightmare> np
[06:38] <Knightwise> where are you from ?
[07:31] <Knightmare> UK
[07:40] <diddledan> morning all
[07:40] <diddledan> so my WD RED discs arrived nice and early
[07:40] <diddledan> busy inserting them right now
[07:47] <diddledan> zfs raidz is now rebuilding after the first replacement (I'm doing two replacements and one addition)
[07:47] <diddledan> should give me 9TB usable spaces
[07:47] <diddledan> (12 total)
[08:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:14] <diddledan> allo
[08:15] <brobostigon> morning diddledan
[08:16] <diddledan> I love how when you're playing with hard disc swapping and you leave them all lying on the floor attached to the computer while you power-up to do the first step in rebuilding an array (replacing one disc offline at a time) it looks like the computer is spilling it's guts as though it's been critically injured
[08:16] <diddledan> (there's a nice thought for your morning :-p)
[08:17] <diddledan> in other news: I've run-out of sata ports :-D
[08:17] <diddledan> got all six used for 4hdds and 2ssds
[08:19] <diddledan> 30% rebuilt
[08:19]  * diddledan twiddles someone's thumbs
[08:28] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayLZk4oNwuQ
[08:28] <diddledan> lol
[08:28] <diddledan> he's excited
[08:31] <diddledan> hmm, 1 more hour for the FIRST resilvering of my array
[08:32] <diddledan> got another two to go
[08:32] <diddledan> allo bashrc
[08:33] <bashrc> g'day peeps
[08:33]  * diddledan stands by his original statement
[08:34] <bashrc> yesterday I battled with emacs, and I think I won
[08:34] <diddledan> I'm not sure you can ever win that fight can you?
[08:34] <bashrc> heh
[08:35] <bashrc> I think what's happening between 14.10 and 15.04 is that some of the stuff which used to come with emacs by default now no longer does
[08:35] <bashrc> making the core app leaner
[08:35] <diddledan> it's like falling into a black hole - it warps itself so the more you think you've learned the more it decides to show you that's an incorrect assumption
[08:36] <diddledan> aah
[08:36] <bashrc> emacs is not so much a black hole as like falling down the rabbit hole
[08:36] <diddledan> lol
[08:36] <bashrc> into a world of hatters and dormice
[08:37] <diddledan> weirdness ensues!
[08:38] <diddledan> you: "what's this?" devs: "we don't talk about that. just ignore it."
[08:39] <bashrc> is today Debian release day?
[08:39] <diddledan> oh?
[08:39] <diddledan> I am out of touch with debian release cycles
[08:39] <diddledan> I tend to only really take note of ubuntu's
[08:40] <bashrc> I don't think debian has cycles as such, they just release when they're ready
[08:40] <diddledan> point
[08:41] <diddledan> come-on raid
[08:41]  * diddledan gets impatient
[08:42] <diddledan> 45 minutes to go apparently
[08:43] <diddledan> I wonder if it would have been quicker to leave the old disc plugged-in and do an online-replace
[10:11] <diddledan> step two initiated. says it's gonna take 7 hours this time
[10:31] <bashrc> 7 hours is enough time to make coffee
[10:33] <zmoylan-pi> enough time to perfect cold fusion :-P
[10:33] <diddledan> adobe tried that
[10:33] <diddledan> it's an evil thing now
[10:33] <zmoylan-pi> well... adobe...
[10:41] <diddledan> ok, should I do a raid5 or a raid10 (raid 10 only loses me 1TB currently over raid5 but in the future if I upgrade to bigger discs then that will increase)
[10:41] <diddledan> .. I'm gonna recreate the array
[10:41] <diddledan> save doing the whole rebuild
[10:42] <diddledan> luckily I've not got too much data yet so I can put it on a usb while I redo the array
[10:46] <diddledan> poor daddy. he sounds very poorly on the phone
[10:46] <diddledan> killer manflu I believe
[10:47] <penguin42> there seems to be an error in the weather, it was lovely and warm and sunny, and now I've got a week off it's pouring down
[10:47] <diddledan> it's fine here. cloudy but the sun is shining
[10:48] <diddledan> bashrc: don't forget to close the door
[16:04] <TheProphet[S]> Hi all
[16:04] <daftykins> lo
[16:06] <TheProphet[S]> I thought 15.04 had been released officially. When I do-release-upgrade it loads utopic packages, why is that? The same applies to do-release-upgrade - d!
[16:06] <daftykins> what version are you on now?
[16:06] <TheProphet[S]> Lts
[16:06] <daftykins> you should never use do-release-upgrade -d
[16:07] <daftykins> yeah, so you have to update to 14.10 before you can go to 15.04
[16:07] <daftykins> you can't bypass 14.10 :)
[16:07] <zmoylan-pi> do not pass go, do not collect #200.... :-P
[16:08] <daftykins> ^_^
[16:08] <daftykins> which also gives you plenty of time to backup \o/
[16:08] <TheProphet[S]> I have worked on alpha versions of Ubuntu before, but that's beside the point. I would like to revert my repositories to trusty now, is that possible?
[16:09] <penguin42> downgrading isn't possible generally
[16:09] <TheProphet[S]> my sources.list is correct, it mentions only trusty
[16:09] <TheProphet[S]> I haven't installed anything
[16:09] <penguin42> hmm
[16:10] <TheProphet[S]> I did not proceed with the upgrade once I realised I was going to install utopic
[16:10] <daftykins> you might be safe as long as you closed out then
[16:10] <TheProphet[S]> But my repositories now are utopic, even though my sources.list is set on trusty
[16:11] <TheProphet[S]> I did close yes, I needed to confirm if I wanted to proceed and said no.
[16:12] <TheProphet[S]> If I try to update my packages now it says that I have to upgrade all of them because it's using utopic repos
[16:14] <TheProphet[S]> I might as well do the upgrade now, the reason why I wanted to do it in the first place is that it freezes, can't even reisub
[16:15] <daftykins> that might be unrelated
[16:15] <TheProphet[S]> It is, the freezing happens since way before this upgrade incident
[16:16] <daftykins> memtest + disk health ok? :)
[16:17] <TheProphet[S]> I'm not sure even if it's an hardware or software problem
[16:17] <TheProphet[S]> I keep thinking it's the video card
[16:17] <TheProphet[S]> But I can't pinpoint it
[16:22] <TheProphet[S]> Everytime I log in I get an error message about xserver-xorg-core, because it crashes
[16:23] <directhex_> Has anyone got Bioshock Infinite running on 1504?
[16:23] <TheProphet[S]> On 14.04 yes
[16:25] <directhex_> it wokrked for me on my old PC (14.04), not my new one (15.04)
[16:26] <directhex_> i'd like to see if someone else has a problem before wasting my time with an unneeded reinstall
[18:30] <AndChat|336756> I updated my system to 14.10 in order to upgrade to 15.04, but now WiFi does not connect
[18:31] <daftykins> got a network cable handy?
[18:33] <AndChat|336756> The router is in another room, why?
[18:33] <daftykins> use wired?
[18:33] <daftykins> no point fixing a version you're not even going to stay on
[18:35] <AndChat|336756> Not fiscally possible unfortunately, I would either need a 30 meter cable or to carry Pc and 42" TV to the other room
[18:36] <AndChat|336756> Is there a way to fix it though? I'm trying to modify modules.conf
[18:36] <daftykins> got another computer? like a laptop?
[18:36] <AndChat|336756> The one I'm typing from yes
[18:36] <MartijnVdS> Fiscally? So it's not possible for tax reasons?
[18:36] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: it's financially non-viable :D
[18:36] <daftykins> time = money
[18:36] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: network cables aren't THAT expensive are they? :P
[18:37] <daftykins> AndChat|336756: android device though, hrmm probably can't bridge wired LAN through that
[18:37] <daftykins> proper laptop, yes
[18:37] <daftykins> AndChat|336756: we don't even know what your wireless adapter is right now
[18:38] <AndChat|336756> But the adapter works, it sees the 2.4 Ghz connection, the password is the same as always
[18:38] <AndChat|336756> It connects for a few seconds and then disconnects itself
[18:38] <daftykins> ah ok so the details are slowly adding up
[18:39] <daftykins> perhaps if you pored over the system logs you might find an explanation as to why, but i really think it'd be more sensible to either clean install 15.04 at this point or drag the machine over to wired
[18:41] <AndChat|336756> There was a blatant syntax error in the iwlwifi.conf file
[18:41] <daftykins> fine now then?
[18:42] <AndChat|336756> I corrected the error and saved the file, now it's connected
[18:42] <daftykins> huzzah
[18:43] <AndChat|336756> Thanks, regarding the fiscal cliff I mentioned earlier
[18:44] <AndChat|336756> Oh, forget it, I was gonna try and say something clever
[18:44] <daftykins> nothing like an air of absolute pessimism to motivate one to find the real solution \o/
[19:44] <ali1234> can anyone make any sense of this? http://msscodefactory.sourceforge.net/
[19:44] <ali1234> i'm not sure if it's way over my head or the next templeOS
[19:49] <ali1234> it appears to be a tool that takes a database schema and generates a static java ORM on top of it
[19:49] <ali1234> apparently it takes "multi-hours" to run
[19:49] <ali1234> but maybe i am missing something
[19:51] <ali1234> also i dont understand how expert systems or genetic algorithms fit in
[19:51] <ali1234> but "genetic" might be a typo
[20:44] <MAPcz> hi all
[20:44] <MAPcz> so hard sleeping abroad in diff hotels and that;/
[20:45] <directhex_> it takes me a few days to get comfortable in a hotel bed
[20:46] <MAPcz> yea i managed 4/5hrs a night and thats it
[20:46] <MAPcz> waking up all the time then tired at night
[20:47] <directhex_> i might stay up later if i enjoyed cartoon network's late night programming
[20:47] <directhex_> and CN is the only channel i watch when i'm in the US
[20:47] <directhex_> it's the only channel which isn't back-to-back lies
[20:51] <MartijnVdS> CN?
[20:53] <daftykins> cartoon network
[21:01]  * penguin42 puts a pile of corn in one corner of the channel for daftykins and watches
[21:02]  * daftykins scratches his head
[21:02] <daftykins> Meep Meep
[21:02] <penguin42> :-)
[21:15] <MAPcz> hmm
[21:16] <MAPcz> whats that bew show startiong on sky atlantic
[21:16] <MAPcz> seen an ad for it..looked good but forgot;/