[00:45] <nomic> anyone know why a virtualbox mount of nfs (from ubuntu) is "read only"
[00:48] <nomic> was diff problem -fixed it
[00:48] <nomic> incorrect mount point ty
[03:44] <Zach__> Hello?
[03:44] <MrPenguin_> hello
[03:44] <Zach__> Is it possible to install Xubuntu from commandline?
[03:44] <Zach__> Or would I need to do a clean install
[03:45] <MrPenguin_> do you already have an xubuntu version?
[03:45] <Zach__> Yeah
[03:45] <Zach__> I'm running Xubuntu 14.0.2 at the moment
[03:46] <MrPenguin_> you should be able to using a sudo command. I am not positive though
[03:47] <Zach__> Alright, well, I tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but that didn't work.. Any ideas per chance?
[03:48] <MrPenguin_> No, sorry. I am fairly new to linux
[03:48] <MrPenguin_> Don't know too much
[03:49] <Zach__> Haha, I am also, was the reason I came here
[03:49] <MrPenguin_> :)
[03:49] <Zach__> Alright, guess it's off to the Ubuntu forums with me, thanks for the answer :)
[03:53] <MrPenguin_> np, sorry i couldnt help
[06:59] <pragomer> how can I change icon spacing in xfce -panel (xubuntu 14.04) (icons of self-made program starters...)
[07:00] <knome> icon spacing?
[07:00] <liquidsnake> you mean in the panel itself? Like putting the icons in a certain order?
[07:02] <pragomer> icon spacing.. I made some program starters using drag and drop from menu..  e.g. firefox, terminal, .... I mean the spacing between the programm starters... (in my opinion there should be more space between them to look more nice..)
[07:02] <liquidsnake> oic
[07:02] <pragomer> I know  I can use seperators.. but I want to edit this via e.g. a config file to do it more "general"
[07:02] <liquidsnake> ahh
[07:03] <liquidsnake> yeah other than that idk either
[07:03] <liquidsnake> have you checked the forums yet?
[07:04] <pragomer> just used google.. though I ask it here.. perhaps someone just knows the file I have to edit
[07:05] <elfy> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/96117/increase-space-between-icons-in-xfce-notification-area
[07:06] <pragomer> thanks elfy.. but I think this is about the "notifications area".. what I mean is the program starters
[07:07] <elfy> yea - but I suspect the only way you'll do what you want is the same answer
[07:12] <pragomer> mm. the answer there is that it would not be possible to do it via config files.. cant just believe it..
[07:12] <knome> pragomer, feel free to submit code to xfce4-panel to make it possible
[07:12] <elfy> well - if no-one is able to point you at it then find out and you can come and tell us :)
[07:13] <pragomer> Im just a user, sorry :-(
[07:13] <elfy> so are we all ;)
[07:13] <pragomer> funny but true answer elfy ;)
[07:14] <pragomer> another question: is it possible to use the super key to open whisker menu in xubuntu AND to use the super key for shortcuts (e.g. super+e) at SAME TIME ?
[07:15] <elfy> pretty sure not - did that accidentally ...
[07:15] <elfy> though you could use the right Super button
[07:19] <pragomer> ok.. not a drama.. but I would be cool if it worked (like in every other desktop)... its not for me but for me girlfriend who should switch to linux and who is used to her few shortcuts...
[12:57] <Jammerx2> When I connect my bluetooth headset it's never set as the default in PulseAudio, is there an easy way to make it default each time?
[13:19] <ohadigger> hello there...
[16:07] <Zdenek> XUBUNTU is bettter than windows! My printer works perfectly on XUBUNTU but on windows not. THANKS!!!
[16:43] <TimeVirus> why is it Unetbootin cant see my flash drive nor does it automount
[16:55] <TimeVirus> back
[17:02] <Spass> hi all, i'm new here, almost done configuring my fresh xubuntu 14.04 installation
[17:03] <Spass> can anyone know if it is possible to change xchat icon in tray?
[17:05] <JeZxLee> anyone get VirtualBox in software center working on Xubuntu 15.04 64Bit?
[17:08] <TimeVirus> fdisk -l lists none of my devices
[17:08] <TimeVirus>  /o\
[17:08] <TimeVirus> lsblk works
[17:08] <TimeVirus> ...
[17:17] <Spass> (nvmd, i finally was able to change it)
[17:34] <Spass> any gamers here? http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ratbuntu
[17:36] <MrPenguin_> what is the best way to back up your files when upgrading to the newest xubuntu?
[17:36] <xangua> get a backup disk¿
[17:39] <MrPenguin_> would a usb work well?
[17:43] <liquidsnake_> yeah usb flash drive fine as long as it has enough space
[17:44] <MrPenguin_> :) 32gb is more than enough
[17:44] <liquidsnake_> oh  mos def
[17:45] <elfy> JeZxLee: what is the issue you have with it?
[17:46] <JeZxLee> elfy - Windows 8 install crashes under current VirtualBox for 15.04
[17:47] <elfy> oh right - wouldn't have a clue about whether a win guest worked
[17:48] <elfy> vbox works in 15.04 for me for what I need it for
[17:49] <liquidsnake_> windblows 8 has bugs
[17:49] <liquidsnake_> i do not feel that it is very stable
[17:50] <liquidsnake_> it has numerous compatibility isuues
[17:50] <liquidsnake_> try W7
[17:50] <JeZxLee> I need Windows 8
[17:50] <liquidsnake_> or W10
[17:50] <liquidsnake_> oic
[17:51] <liquidsnake_> well have you checked the forums for a workaround?
[17:51] <liquidsnake_> there may already be a solution
[17:54] <JeZxLee> no workaround yet - I'll keep using old Linux Mint 17.1 KDE 64Bit with VMWare Player 7.1.0
[17:54] <liquidsnake_> ahh well that blows
[17:56] <GeekDude> I must've really  messed something up, because I can't log in anymore
[17:56] <GeekDude> I hit login and it takes me back to the login screen
[17:56] <GeekDude> Note that I can login as guest
[17:56] <liquidsnake_> strange
[17:56] <liquidsnake_> oh ok was about to ask...
[17:56] <liquidsnake_> but not as admin?
[17:56] <GeekDude> Not as the only user account
[17:57] <liquidsnake_> do you have it set with a password?
[17:57] <GeekDude> I can log in over SSH and through a tty
[17:57] <liquidsnake_> ahh
[17:57] <GeekDude> The user on this machine is "media"
[17:57] <GeekDude> -rw-------  1 media media   101 Apr 25 13:56 .Xauthority
[17:59] <GeekDude> Here's the contents of .xsession-errors https://gist.github.com/dc07329cd3ffefd405fc
[17:59] <elfy> and any that are apparently owned by root instead of media that shouldn't be?
[18:00] <GeekDude> I was trying to get xvfb running the other day and managed to make .Xauthority be owned by root, but I've since chowned it back
[18:02] <liquidsnake_> have you checked the forums for a workaround?
[18:02] <GeekDude> They said to make sure that the permissions on .Xauthority and on /tmp were set correctly
[18:02] <liquidsnake_> the only other thing i know of is to backup your data if possible and reinstall OS
[18:02] <liquidsnake_> oic
[18:02] <liquidsnake_> what did you mess with to cause this?
[18:02] <GeekDude> drwxrwxrwt 4 root root 4096 Apr 25 13:58 /tmp
[18:03] <liquidsnake_> do you recall
[18:04] <liquidsnake_> you may have to do a reinstall as much as I'm sure you don't wanna do that unless you can find a practical workaround
[18:05] <GeekDude> > history | grep sudo
[18:05] <GeekDude> https://gist.github.com/5892f198d2d181b2c43c
[18:05] <GeekDude> line 12 is where the juicy bits start
[18:12] <GeekDude> It's a shame I didn't make separate home and root partitions
[18:20] <GeekDude> When I try to log in Xorg.0.log says https://gist.github.com/ff9fc062d6c6a7dc95a7
[18:21] <GeekDude> auth.log says https://gist.github.com/cd24487756b27759253e
[18:21] <GeekDude> auth.log is particularly interesting
[18:28] <elfy> bug 1309535 perhaps -certainly a few hits for similar errors in auth.log
[18:28] <GeekDude> perhaps I might purge and reinstall the xubuntu-desktop package
[18:32] <elfy> wouldn't be a bad idea - see what that brings
[18:33] <krytarik> Nil. :)
[18:34] <elfy> GeekDude: on the other hand - you're not running with a standard system - so who knows what's happened
[18:35] <GeekDude> I don't suppose you'd like the output of dpkg -l
[18:41] <krytarik> GeekDude: So, you only have an "~/.Xauthority", right? Try deleting it and letting it recreate on the next login.
[18:44] <GeekDude> removing .Xauthority then restarting lightdm didn't have any effect
[18:45]  * GeekDude reinstalls xorg 
[18:47] <krytarik> GeekDude: So when did this start exactly?
[18:47] <GeekDude> hard to say for sure
[18:47] <GeekDude> earlier today?
[18:47] <krytarik> lol
[18:47] <krytarik> After you did what?
[18:47] <GeekDude> The screen went black but I could still VNC in
[18:47] <GeekDude> so I rebooted and now I can't log in
[18:49] <krytarik> GeekDude: Try clearing any saved sessions from "~/.cache/sessions".
[18:58] <xubuntu58w> ok
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> inspiron 1764 wifi not functional after installing Xubuntu the latest
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> any tips
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 10
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 9
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 8
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 7
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 6
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 5
[18:59] <xubuntu58w> 4
[19:00] <xubuntu58w> hello
[19:00] <xubuntu58w> read the forums nut found no solution
[19:00] <krytarik> !patience | xubuntu58w
[19:00] <xubuntu58w> any drivers to add to it
[19:00] <krytarik> !details | xubuntu58w
[19:01] <xubuntu58w> I am able to go wired but wifi
[19:01] <xubuntu58w> as long as I connect the internet cable I am able to c the internet
[19:01] <xubuntu58w> but not wirelss wfifi
[19:01] <xubuntu58w> WIFI
[19:03] <koegs> which wifi card?
[19:03] <xubuntu58w> what is the command to find that out
[19:03] <xubuntu58w> I entered
[19:04] <xubuntu58w> iwlist wlan0 s
[19:04] <xubuntu58w> did not worked
[19:04] <xubuntu58w> 14.04 LTS
[19:05] <brainwash> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Inspiron_1764
[19:05] <brainwash> "Linux was reported to run well with the Laptop's hardware, but requires proprietary Broadcom drivers for the wireless network interface card..."
[19:05] <brainwash> !broadcom
[19:08] <xubuntu58w> sudo lshw
[19:08] <xubuntu58w> but it does not c it
[19:08] <xubuntu58w> so it appears i have to get the drivers
[19:09] <xubuntu58w> as per your your feedback
[19:09] <xubuntu58w> i will follow up the links u sent....u r the man!! thanks!
[19:09] <brainwash> good luck
[19:18] <xubuntu58w> timvisher
[19:18] <xubuntu58w> a silly questions
[19:19] <xubuntu58w> Go to: System->Administrator->Additional Drivers(Hardware drivers)  Then click to Broadcom STA wireless driver and enable it.  Restart
[19:19] <xubuntu58w> i do not find the system to administrator tab
[19:20] <brainwash> settings manager > software sources > additional drivers
[19:21] <brainwash> I think that's how you do it in xubuntu
[19:21] <xubuntu58w> how
[19:21] <xubuntu345> hablan español???
[19:21] <brainwash> !es
[19:22] <xubuntu345> gracias
[19:22] <brainwash> xubuntu58w: what do you mean "how"? I told you what to click
[19:24] <xubuntu65w> hello
[19:24] <TimeVirus> howdy
[19:24] <xubuntu65w> !es does not work
[19:24] <TimeVirus> bot abuse
[19:24] <xubuntu65w> no big deal nobody knows everything
[19:25] <TimeVirus> some dont know anything too
[19:25] <xubuntu071> as I can make a local network with xubuntu
[19:25] <xubuntu65w> my kernel driver is  b43-pci-bridge
[19:25] <TimeVirus> you need a switch for that
[19:26] <xubuntu65w> BCM4312
[19:26] <TimeVirus> and a router to NAT out to the rest of the world
[19:26] <xubuntu65w> <access denied>
[19:26] <xubuntu65w> ok thanks
[19:26] <TimeVirus> no wait!
[19:27] <TimeVirus> ok thanks for what?
[19:27] <TimeVirus> heh
[19:28] <xubuntu071> it's just a local network of 10 computers for primary school without internet, it is for primary school children conoscan linux
[19:29] <GeekDude> What's the best file system for cross platform compatibility?
[19:29] <TimeVirus> fat32 but there is more to it than just that
[19:29] <elfy> how cross-platformy?
[19:29] <TimeVirus> lots more
[19:30] <GeekDude> I want to put some movies on a hard drive so that they can be read from both linux and windows
[19:30] <krytarik> GeekDude: NTFS, rather than FAT32.
[19:30] <TimeVirus> ntfs works fine
[19:30] <GeekDude> Though I don't really need to, I can just go with standard ext4 if it's significantly better
[19:30] <elfy> then ntfs I would say
[19:30] <xubuntu071> I will use xubuntu only in the 10 netbook, what I do is work or home network .
[19:32] <TimeVirus> I'd say you need a switch to run best
[19:33] <xubuntu071> I have a Cisco 24-port
[19:33] <TimeVirus> nice
[19:34] <xubuntu071> como puedo configurar las maquinas para que esten en la misma red
[19:34] <xubuntu071> as I can configure the machines so they are on the same network
[19:34] <TimeVirus> yes I too used the google for that one
[19:37] <TimeVirus> aggregate and CPUs become the bottlenecks
[19:38] <TimeVirus> well, almost
[19:47] <a1fa> i just downloaded 15.04 from US TX AUSTIN mirror, and md5sum does not match
[19:47] <a1fa> even the file size is wrong
[19:48] <a1fa> ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:48] <a1fa> 53c869eba8686007239a650d903847fd  ubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:48] <liquidsnake_> so try a diff mirror perhaps or use a torrent instead?
[19:48] <a1fa> dont know if anybody cares
[19:48] <a1fa> i am using the official link now
[19:48] <a1fa> this one was also linked on xubuntu.org
[19:49] <a1fa> just giving you guys a heads up
[19:49] <liquidsnake_> torrents always seem to work better imho
[19:49] <liquidsnake_> ok
[19:50] <a1fa> hm.. ok this may have been a ubuntu vs xubuntu thing ;)
[19:50] <a1fa> i just noticed their xubuntu link fetches ubuntu instead
[19:50] <a1fa> >.<
[19:50] <liquidsnake_> ahh
[19:55] <GeekDude> I'm backing up my ~ directory onto an external drive, and I'm gonna wipe and reinstall the main drive
[19:57] <liquidsnake_> oh you finally decided to do that huh
[19:57] <liquidsnake_> thats what I would do too
[19:57] <liquidsnake_> sux but it works
[19:58] <GeekDude> I'm still not sure how I want my drives set up though. I have an 80G drive and a 250G drive. I think I might make the 80G one the boot drive and the 250G one the data drive
[19:59] <liquidsnake_> yep thats what I would recommend
[19:59] <elfy> 0_0
[19:59] <liquidsnake_> makes sense
[20:00] <elfy> GeekDude: partition how you like - but in the last 8 years never touched more than 12Gb personally
[20:00] <liquidsnake_> i'm still trying to decide whether i like xubuntu better or puppy linux for the kids computer
[20:00] <elfy> the only time I have seen someone run out of room - they marked the repo for installation
[20:00]  * GeekDude chuckles 
[20:01] <GeekDude> > sudo apt-get install *
[20:01] <liquidsnake_> xubuntu seems more user friendly esp for kids. puppy is a little more technical than i thought
[20:01] <elfy> if you are installing 15.04 - then you need to install in 9 months all of 80Gb
[20:02] <elfy> because in 10 months it's out of support
[20:02] <liquidsnake_> thats why i always get the lts versions
[20:02] <GeekDude> 14.04LTS
[20:02] <elfy> you might benefit from thinking about symlinks and external data sources and just having a small /
[20:03] <elfy> right so - maybe split /home and / and further split some of /home out to other partitions
[20:04] <elfy> anyway - the main thing is think a bit more long term
[20:05] <GeekDude> Is copying files between different partitions any faster than copying files between different drives?
[20:06] <elfy> not that I noticed before I had usb3 and ssd's kicking about
[22:11] <talladamb> hi all, having a problwm with Xubuntu 14.04 on a Thinkpad T400. I have multiple workspaces, which I switch between with a workspace switcher applet in the panel. When I have chromium-browser open on one, switch to another, and switch back to browser, I get this display issue:
[22:11] <talladamb> http://imgur.com/uoC8D0n
[22:13] <talladamb> not really sure where to begin. Might be an issue with chromium-browser. Everything is up to date, from repos only nothing built from source or manually installed.
[22:14] <talladamb> it is always the top third or so of the window, regardless of where the window is placed on the screen
[22:15] <talladamb> seen here: http://imgur.com/6m0ao1f
[22:15] <krytarik> talladamb: LP bug 1309801.
[22:16] <talladamb> oh wow my google skills really fail :(
[22:16] <talladamb> thank you ubottu
[22:19] <talladamb> also just wanna say I really love this OS, by far the easiest to use and friendliest community I've come across yet. Thanks again!
[22:19] <talladamb> s/OS/distro
[22:20] <krytarik> talladamb: Thanks for the kind words. :)
[22:21] <krytarik> Also, ubottu is a bot.
[22:23] <talladamb> yes I see that now, thank you instead krytarik :)
[22:23] <krytarik> Heh.
[22:24] <talladamb> I was able to use a workaround from the bugtracker somments to fix my issue for now
[22:24] <krytarik> Which one exactly?
[23:16] <mignw> hi guys
[23:16] <mignw> how do we update bash?
[23:29] <depth> hola, alguien que hable español?
[23:31] <Unit193> !es | depth
[23:31] <mignw> no hablo ingles
[23:32] <depth> thanks. i don't speak english very well
[23:33] <depth> need help with xubuntu 15.04. not working onboard the start of session
[23:34] <depth> someone goes something like?
[23:44] <carrera> Greetings!  :-)
[23:45] <carrera> are there any release images of the new 15.04 desktop?
[23:46] <depth> yes
[23:47] <carrera> I couldn't find them on the site  yesterday
[23:47] <carrera> I'll check again
[23:47] <mignw> how do you update bash?
[23:54] <depth> need help with xubuntu 15.04. not working onboard the start of session