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freceldoes anyone know how to run the plasma active ui in kubuntu?01:26
frecelvalorie: do you know who should I talk about the current state of kde for tablets?01:44
tuv0khttp://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ003:47
Tm_TI'm running that 5.3 staging stuff05:47
Tm_TI cannot rightclick almost anything in plasma panels05:48
Tm_Tand if I try rightclick something in taskmanager, things get messy, suddenly all stuff is overlayed with something semitranslucent, alt-tab doesn't work nor I cannot get proper focus to any window (clicks goes through though?)05:50
Tm_T...i got that last bit working by disabling the following things from taskmanager: "show tooltips" and "hilight windows"05:52
Tm_Tah yeah, it's that "hilight windows" that mess things up05:54
_Groo_hi/2 all06:28
_Groo_anyone alive?06:28
Tm_Tdepends on the definition of alive06:44
_Groo_so, i installed kubuntu-ci vivid fresh06:56
_Groo_and bluez is broken06:57
_Groo_sorry, bluedevil is broken06:57
_Groo_it wants bluez (>= 5)06:57
_Groo_but 4 is on vivid06:57
_Groo_where can i get the 5 one?06:57
viphi08:23
ejayguys, do you know when systray will work with GTK applications?09:38
Riddellejay: what does it work with?09:41
ejayRiddell, for example - I've got Firefox and Thunderbird plugin so those goes to systray when minimized (I mean - they should, ot work in kde4). This plugin is not working with current plasma5 systray.09:47
Riddellsoee, yofel: did I see you guys try plasma 5.3.0?11:36
mparilloIs there a new way to try Plasma 5.3? Nobody seems to file bugs against PPAs, do they? I added kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95, and it works great on my HW (except when I switch to breeze dark, my system tray icons seem hard to read), but not on VMWare. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346467 kicked it back to Kubuntu, but do anybody know where the Kubuntu bug should be filed?12:00
ubottuKDE bug 346467 in general "Plasma 5.2.95 works on HW, but not in VMware Player" [Normal,Resolved: downstream]12:00
Riddellmparillo: bugs.kde.org for bugs in the software, plasmashell or kwin product12:02
Riddelloh you did already12:02
Riddellin that case no idea sorry :(12:03
mparilloAlas, Aleix Pol thinks it is our problem. So I am wondering if it is just VMware Player (since few seem to use it) or also in the more popular virtual box?12:06
Riddellmparillo: plasma 5 doesn't work too well with these funny environments, I think virtualbox works not but I didn't for a long time, and vnc doesn't work alas12:17
soeeRiddell: im on 5.312:17
soeesince first packages were in next-staging12:17
soeeso far i reorted only this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34666812:18
ubottuKDE bug 346668 in general "Plasmashell crashes when trying to remove CPU Load Monitor widget" [Crash,Confirmed]12:18
soeeseems like this mnitors are a bit broken12:18
* yofel updates12:18
Riddellyofel: ooh hang on, could you use kubuntu-ppa/backports instead of beta?12:19
yofelI was using staging, but can use backport to see if something changes12:20
mitya57ejay: "do you know when systray will work with GTK applications?" — when GTK applications switch from deprecated X11 systray to something compatible with SNI.12:20
mitya57Gtk+ itself deprecated GtkStatusIcon in the latest release, that might speed up things a bit :)12:21
ejaymitya57, thanks for the info. Didn't know that. 12:23
soeecompared to next-stging ppa, only thispackage is dowmloaded: Get:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ vivid/main breeze amd64 4:5.3.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa112:24
BluesKajHiyas all12:25
RiddellI deleted breeze from next-staging but it still wouldn't let me upload it for the updated upstream tar :(12:25
Riddellso I just put it into updates directly12:25
soeehiho BluesKaj12:25
soeeBluesKaj: there is Plasma 5.3 to test in backports ppa12:26
BluesKajyeah, already have them on the other install12:26
BluesKajhi soee:)12:27
yofelRiddell: why didn't you change the version like we usually do?12:27
yofelhm yeah, backports adds breeze and a new digikam12:27
BluesKajthis install is the official release with no ppas12:28
BluesKajI have the backports enabled12:28
Riddellyofel: feels messy to have 5.3.0a, I was just trying to work out how to avoid it12:29
BluesKajsoee, kubuntu-next staging /12:29
BluesKaj?12:29
Riddellsoee: remove staging, I moved it to backports12:29
RiddellBluesKaj: ↑12:29
soeehttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports12:29
Riddellbecause it passed my tests12:29
Riddellalthough don't tell anyone until it gets announced on Tuesday12:30
BluesKajRiddell, ok ,but I haven't seen any upgrades12:30
RiddellBluesKaj: there's nothing different in kubuntu-ppa/backports compared to next-staging except breeze12:31
Riddelland even then you may have the old breeze that was in there (same version number)12:31
BluesKajRiddell, I see, ok will add the above ppa12:34
soeeBluesKaj: if you can test and confirm this would be good https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34666812:37
ubottuKDE bug 346668 in general "Plasmashell crashes when trying to remove CPU Load Monitor widget" [Crash,Confirmed]12:37
soeetest also other monitors, as other users report some problems with them12:37
yofelmonitor hotplug actually seems to work now for the first time in plasma 5, at least I see nothing obviously wrong on first glance12:42
Riddellyofel: yeah it was quite broken for me in the beta but final seems all good12:42
yofeldisconnecting it also didn't screw anything up, wow12:43
Riddell:)12:47
soeeRiddell: would be good to have new website online soon, there are already some related topics: https://plus.google.com/+AllanShand/posts/aFK1U4T7g7J12:56
mparilloSo, if I enable backports, I can remove kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95 ?12:59
yofelyou should remove next-staging in any case, and backports will give you 5.313:00
BluesKajhope the reboot brings the desktop and not the black screen I had with the staging ppa13:03
BluesKajlots of problems with nvidia and X on 15.0413:04
yofelreally? I'm fine here..13:04
soeeyeah a lot of users complain about nvidia, black-screen etc.13:04
yofelmy GPU is a bit old though13:05
Riddellsoee: jose and ovidiu-florin are waiting for canonical sysadmins to set it up13:08
BluesKajhere goes with the plasma 5.3 workspace 13:22
darthanubishttp://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ013:36
darthanubismy apt broke with mime-support13:36
BluesKajsuccess! all seems well after the installing plasma 5.3 :)13:46
soee:)14:24
darthanubissoee: my mime-suport is broken. Might that be 5.3 related?14:25
soeedarthanubis: it shuldn't14:38
soeeRiddell: any thoughts ^14:39
darthanubishttp://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ014:41
darthanubishttp://paste.ubuntu.com/10898316/14:42
darthanubisapport won't file bug14:42
darthanubisbrb14:42
darthanubisk14:58
BluesKajthe addon installer for themes, colours, widgetsa etc is not connecting to the internet ...error out16:40
sneleBluesKaj: http://kde-look.org/ not available atm16:53
BluesKajcould be because kde-look.org is doen for maintanence16:53
BluesKajerr down16:54
BluesKajerr maintenance16:57
* BluesKaj needs to study spelling17:05
=== aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun
ovidiu-florinHellooooooo world :D:D19:50
soee_hiho ovidiu-florin19:53
ahoneybunhey ovidiu-florin19:53
BluesKajlots of troubles still, with 15.04, unfortunately 19:54
soee_BluesKaj: what exactly ?19:57
BluesKajdesktop effects/OpenGL with intel gpu for example 20:01
soee_woho Debian 8.0 Jessie has been released! http://20:01
ovidiu-florinBluesKaj: on your computer?20:05
BluesKajovidiu-florin, no20:05
ovidiu-florinBluesKaj: can you provide any links? or something 20:06
BluesKajovidiu-florin, we've trying to solve the problem in #kubuntu...it's a new problem , can't sya it's abug yet because my laptop has the same driver/gpu but works fine.20:08
ovidiu-florinwhy do we still ship with 2 kwallets?20:09
ovidiu-florinwhy do we still need the old one?20:09
ovidiu-florinBluesKaj: ask him/her to send a stacktrace or something so we can analyze it20:10
Etriaphovidiu-florin: The kde 4 wallet is probably for kde 4 apps.20:12
ovidiu-florinI suspected...20:13
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: ping20:13
ahoneybunsup20:13
ovidiu-florinhave you seen NIcholas's mail? and Rick's reply?20:14
ovidiu-florinabout UOS?20:14
BluesKajovidiu-florin, it's not crashing , system settings doesn't seem to accept his choices in the compositor20:14
ahoneybunyea20:14
ahoneybunrick wants to team up with you 20:14
ovidiu-florinlet's have a hangout tomorrow with rick and talk about this?20:14
ahoneybunsure'20:14
ovidiu-florinshall we say 21 My time?20:15
ovidiu-florinBluesKaj: starting SS from Konsole prints anything?20:15
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: last time it was 21:3020:15
ahoneybunwhich would be 14 or 15 mine20:15
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: can we make this public?20:16
ahoneybunas in that the hangout if happening?20:16
ahoneybun*is20:16
ovidiu-florinno, I mean make the hangout one of my "how to be a community member" show20:17
ahoneybunoh your asking if its ok with me to upload it to YouTube?20:18
ovidiu-florinor better not to, because there will be some planning about stuff, or?20:18
ovidiu-florinI'll send an email to you and rick and ask about this.20:18
ahoneybunok20:18
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: can you pm me your email?20:19
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: the UOS is public planning anyway lol20:24
ovidiu-florinthen you can reply to my email as such20:26
ahoneybunovidiu-florin: since you have exp on HTML and CSS maybe you could help me theme http://docs.kubuntu.org/20:26
ovidiu-florinsure20:27
ovidiu-florincan we do this tomorrow?20:28
ahoneybunof course20:28
ovidiu-florinit's late now and I just wanted to catch up20:28
ahoneybunok I'm taking ideas from http://docs.xubuntu.org/20:28
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: that kde theme needs an upgrade20:31
ahoneybunyes20:34
ahoneybunwe'll talk more tomorrow 20:34
* ahoneybun goes to work on his van's raduo20:35
ahoneybun*radio20:35

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