[01:26] does anyone know how to run the plasma active ui in kubuntu? [01:44] valorie: do you know who should I talk about the current state of kde for tablets? [03:47] http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0 [05:47] I'm running that 5.3 staging stuff [05:48] I cannot rightclick almost anything in plasma panels [05:50] and if I try rightclick something in taskmanager, things get messy, suddenly all stuff is overlayed with something semitranslucent, alt-tab doesn't work nor I cannot get proper focus to any window (clicks goes through though?) [05:52] ...i got that last bit working by disabling the following things from taskmanager: "show tooltips" and "hilight windows" [05:54] ah yeah, it's that "hilight windows" that mess things up [06:28] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [06:28] <_Groo_> anyone alive? [06:44] depends on the definition of alive [06:56] <_Groo_> so, i installed kubuntu-ci vivid fresh [06:57] <_Groo_> and bluez is broken [06:57] <_Groo_> sorry, bluedevil is broken [06:57] <_Groo_> it wants bluez (>= 5) [06:57] <_Groo_> but 4 is on vivid [06:57] <_Groo_> where can i get the 5 one? [08:23] hi [09:38] guys, do you know when systray will work with GTK applications? [09:41] ejay: what does it work with? [09:47] Riddell, for example - I've got Firefox and Thunderbird plugin so those goes to systray when minimized (I mean - they should, ot work in kde4). This plugin is not working with current plasma5 systray. [11:36] soee, yofel: did I see you guys try plasma 5.3.0? [12:00] Is there a new way to try Plasma 5.3? Nobody seems to file bugs against PPAs, do they? I added kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95, and it works great on my HW (except when I switch to breeze dark, my system tray icons seem hard to read), but not on VMWare. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346467 kicked it back to Kubuntu, but do anybody know where the Kubuntu bug should be filed? [12:00] KDE bug 346467 in general "Plasma 5.2.95 works on HW, but not in VMware Player" [Normal,Resolved: downstream] [12:02] mparillo: bugs.kde.org for bugs in the software, plasmashell or kwin product [12:02] oh you did already [12:03] in that case no idea sorry :( [12:06] Alas, Aleix Pol thinks it is our problem. So I am wondering if it is just VMware Player (since few seem to use it) or also in the more popular virtual box? [12:17] mparillo: plasma 5 doesn't work too well with these funny environments, I think virtualbox works not but I didn't for a long time, and vnc doesn't work alas [12:17] Riddell: im on 5.3 [12:17] since first packages were in next-staging [12:18] so far i reorted only this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346668 [12:18] KDE bug 346668 in general "Plasmashell crashes when trying to remove CPU Load Monitor widget" [Crash,Confirmed] [12:18] seems like this mnitors are a bit broken [12:18] * yofel updates [12:19] yofel: ooh hang on, could you use kubuntu-ppa/backports instead of beta? [12:20] I was using staging, but can use backport to see if something changes [12:20] ejay: "do you know when systray will work with GTK applications?" — when GTK applications switch from deprecated X11 systray to something compatible with SNI. [12:21] Gtk+ itself deprecated GtkStatusIcon in the latest release, that might speed up things a bit :) [12:23] mitya57, thanks for the info. Didn't know that. [12:24] compared to next-stging ppa, only thispackage is dowmloaded: Get:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ vivid/main breeze amd64 4:5.3.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1 [12:25] Hiyas all [12:25] I deleted breeze from next-staging but it still wouldn't let me upload it for the updated upstream tar :( [12:25] so I just put it into updates directly [12:25] hiho BluesKaj [12:26] BluesKaj: there is Plasma 5.3 to test in backports ppa [12:26] yeah, already have them on the other install [12:27] hi soee:) [12:27] Riddell: why didn't you change the version like we usually do? [12:27] hm yeah, backports adds breeze and a new digikam [12:28] this install is the official release with no ppas [12:28] I have the backports enabled [12:29] yofel: feels messy to have 5.3.0a, I was just trying to work out how to avoid it [12:29] soee, kubuntu-next staging / [12:29] ? [12:29] soee: remove staging, I moved it to backports [12:29] BluesKaj: ↑ [12:29] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports [12:29] because it passed my tests [12:30] although don't tell anyone until it gets announced on Tuesday [12:30] Riddell, ok ,but I haven't seen any upgrades [12:31] BluesKaj: there's nothing different in kubuntu-ppa/backports compared to next-staging except breeze [12:31] and even then you may have the old breeze that was in there (same version number) [12:34] Riddell, I see, ok will add the above ppa [12:37] BluesKaj: if you can test and confirm this would be good https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346668 [12:37] KDE bug 346668 in general "Plasmashell crashes when trying to remove CPU Load Monitor widget" [Crash,Confirmed] [12:37] test also other monitors, as other users report some problems with them [12:42] monitor hotplug actually seems to work now for the first time in plasma 5, at least I see nothing obviously wrong on first glance [12:42] yofel: yeah it was quite broken for me in the beta but final seems all good [12:43] disconnecting it also didn't screw anything up, wow [12:47] :) [12:56] Riddell: would be good to have new website online soon, there are already some related topics: https://plus.google.com/+AllanShand/posts/aFK1U4T7g7J [12:59] So, if I enable backports, I can remove kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95 ? [13:00] you should remove next-staging in any case, and backports will give you 5.3 [13:03] hope the reboot brings the desktop and not the black screen I had with the staging ppa [13:04] lots of problems with nvidia and X on 15.04 [13:04] really? I'm fine here.. [13:04] yeah a lot of users complain about nvidia, black-screen etc. [13:05] my GPU is a bit old though [13:08] soee: jose and ovidiu-florin are waiting for canonical sysadmins to set it up [13:22] here goes with the plasma 5.3 workspace [13:36] http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0 [13:36] my apt broke with mime-support [13:46] success! all seems well after the installing plasma 5.3 :) [14:24] :) [14:25] soee: my mime-suport is broken. Might that be 5.3 related? [14:38] darthanubis: it shuldn't [14:39] Riddell: any thoughts ^ [14:41] http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0 [14:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898316/ [14:42] apport won't file bug [14:42] brb [14:58] k [16:40] the addon installer for themes, colours, widgetsa etc is not connecting to the internet ...error out [16:53] BluesKaj: http://kde-look.org/ not available atm [16:53] could be because kde-look.org is doen for maintanence [16:54] err down [16:57] err maintenance [17:05] * BluesKaj needs to study spelling === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [19:50] Hellooooooo world :D:D [19:53] hiho ovidiu-florin [19:53] hey ovidiu-florin [19:54] lots of troubles still, with 15.04, unfortunately [19:57] BluesKaj: what exactly ? [20:01] desktop effects/OpenGL with intel gpu for example [20:01] woho Debian 8.0 Jessie has been released! http:// [20:05] BluesKaj: on your computer? [20:05] ovidiu-florin, no [20:06] BluesKaj: can you provide any links? or something [20:08] ovidiu-florin, we've trying to solve the problem in #kubuntu...it's a new problem , can't sya it's abug yet because my laptop has the same driver/gpu but works fine. [20:09] why do we still ship with 2 kwallets? [20:09] why do we still need the old one? [20:10] BluesKaj: ask him/her to send a stacktrace or something so we can analyze it [20:12] ovidiu-florin: The kde 4 wallet is probably for kde 4 apps. [20:13] I suspected... [20:13] ahoneybun: ping [20:13] sup [20:14] have you seen NIcholas's mail? and Rick's reply? [20:14] about UOS? [20:14] ovidiu-florin, it's not crashing , system settings doesn't seem to accept his choices in the compositor [20:14] yea [20:14] rick wants to team up with you [20:14] let's have a hangout tomorrow with rick and talk about this? [20:14] sure' [20:15] shall we say 21 My time? [20:15] BluesKaj: starting SS from Konsole prints anything? [20:15] ahoneybun: last time it was 21:30 [20:15] which would be 14 or 15 mine [20:16] ahoneybun: can we make this public? [20:16] as in that the hangout if happening? [20:16] *is [20:17] no, I mean make the hangout one of my "how to be a community member" show [20:18] oh your asking if its ok with me to upload it to YouTube? [20:18] or better not to, because there will be some planning about stuff, or? [20:18] I'll send an email to you and rick and ask about this. [20:18] ok [20:19] ahoneybun: can you pm me your email? [20:24] ovidiu-florin: the UOS is public planning anyway lol [20:26] then you can reply to my email as such [20:26] ovidiu-florin: since you have exp on HTML and CSS maybe you could help me theme http://docs.kubuntu.org/ [20:27] sure [20:28] can we do this tomorrow? [20:28] of course [20:28] it's late now and I just wanted to catch up [20:28] ok I'm taking ideas from http://docs.xubuntu.org/ [20:31] ahoneybun: that kde theme needs an upgrade [20:34] yes [20:34] we'll talk more tomorrow [20:35] * ahoneybun goes to work on his van's raduo [20:35] *radio