[01:26] <frecel> does anyone know how to run the plasma active ui in kubuntu?
[01:44] <frecel> valorie: do you know who should I talk about the current state of kde for tablets?
[03:47] <tuv0k> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[05:47] <Tm_T> I'm running that 5.3 staging stuff
[05:48] <Tm_T> I cannot rightclick almost anything in plasma panels
[05:50] <Tm_T> and if I try rightclick something in taskmanager, things get messy, suddenly all stuff is overlayed with something semitranslucent, alt-tab doesn't work nor I cannot get proper focus to any window (clicks goes through though?)
[05:52] <Tm_T> ...i got that last bit working by disabling the following things from taskmanager: "show tooltips" and "hilight windows"
[05:54] <Tm_T> ah yeah, it's that "hilight windows" that mess things up
[06:28] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[06:28] <_Groo_> anyone alive?
[06:44] <Tm_T> depends on the definition of alive
[06:56] <_Groo_> so, i installed kubuntu-ci vivid fresh
[06:57] <_Groo_> and bluez is broken
[06:57] <_Groo_> sorry, bluedevil is broken
[06:57] <_Groo_> it wants bluez (>= 5)
[06:57] <_Groo_> but 4 is on vivid
[06:57] <_Groo_> where can i get the 5 one?
[08:23] <vip> hi
[09:38] <ejay> guys, do you know when systray will work with GTK applications?
[09:41] <Riddell> ejay: what does it work with?
[09:47] <ejay> Riddell, for example - I've got Firefox and Thunderbird plugin so those goes to systray when minimized (I mean - they should, ot work in kde4). This plugin is not working with current plasma5 systray.
[11:36] <Riddell> soee, yofel: did I see you guys try plasma 5.3.0?
[12:00] <mparillo> Is there a new way to try Plasma 5.3? Nobody seems to file bugs against PPAs, do they? I added kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95, and it works great on my HW (except when I switch to breeze dark, my system tray icons seem hard to read), but not on VMWare. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346467 kicked it back to Kubuntu, but do anybody know where the Kubuntu bug should be filed?
[12:02] <Riddell> mparillo: bugs.kde.org for bugs in the software, plasmashell or kwin product
[12:02] <Riddell> oh you did already
[12:03] <Riddell> in that case no idea sorry :(
[12:06] <mparillo> Alas, Aleix Pol thinks it is our problem. So I am wondering if it is just VMware Player (since few seem to use it) or also in the more popular virtual box?
[12:17] <Riddell> mparillo: plasma 5 doesn't work too well with these funny environments, I think virtualbox works not but I didn't for a long time, and vnc doesn't work alas
[12:17] <soee> Riddell: im on 5.3
[12:17] <soee> since first packages were in next-staging
[12:18] <soee> so far i reorted only this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346668
[12:18] <soee> seems like this mnitors are a bit broken
[12:18]  * yofel updates
[12:19] <Riddell> yofel: ooh hang on, could you use kubuntu-ppa/backports instead of beta?
[12:20] <yofel> I was using staging, but can use backport to see if something changes
[12:20] <mitya57> ejay: "do you know when systray will work with GTK applications?" — when GTK applications switch from deprecated X11 systray to something compatible with SNI.
[12:21] <mitya57> Gtk+ itself deprecated GtkStatusIcon in the latest release, that might speed up things a bit :)
[12:23] <ejay> mitya57, thanks for the info. Didn't know that. 
[12:24] <soee> compared to next-stging ppa, only thispackage is dowmloaded: Get:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/ vivid/main breeze amd64 4:5.3.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.04~ppa1
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:25] <Riddell> I deleted breeze from next-staging but it still wouldn't let me upload it for the updated upstream tar :(
[12:25] <Riddell> so I just put it into updates directly
[12:25] <soee> hiho BluesKaj
[12:26] <soee> BluesKaj: there is Plasma 5.3 to test in backports ppa
[12:26] <BluesKaj> yeah, already have them on the other install
[12:27] <BluesKaj> hi soee:)
[12:27] <yofel> Riddell: why didn't you change the version like we usually do?
[12:27] <yofel> hm yeah, backports adds breeze and a new digikam
[12:28] <BluesKaj> this install is the official release with no ppas
[12:28] <BluesKaj> I have the backports enabled
[12:29] <Riddell> yofel: feels messy to have 5.3.0a, I was just trying to work out how to avoid it
[12:29] <BluesKaj> soee, kubuntu-next staging /
[12:29] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:29] <Riddell> soee: remove staging, I moved it to backports
[12:29] <Riddell> BluesKaj: ↑
[12:29] <soee> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[12:29] <Riddell> because it passed my tests
[12:30] <Riddell> although don't tell anyone until it gets announced on Tuesday
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Riddell, ok ,but I haven't seen any upgrades
[12:31] <Riddell> BluesKaj: there's nothing different in kubuntu-ppa/backports compared to next-staging except breeze
[12:31] <Riddell> and even then you may have the old breeze that was in there (same version number)
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I see, ok will add the above ppa
[12:37] <soee> BluesKaj: if you can test and confirm this would be good https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346668
[12:37] <soee> test also other monitors, as other users report some problems with them
[12:42] <yofel> monitor hotplug actually seems to work now for the first time in plasma 5, at least I see nothing obviously wrong on first glance
[12:42] <Riddell> yofel: yeah it was quite broken for me in the beta but final seems all good
[12:43] <yofel> disconnecting it also didn't screw anything up, wow
[12:47] <Riddell> :)
[12:56] <soee> Riddell: would be good to have new website online soon, there are already some related topics: https://plus.google.com/+AllanShand/posts/aFK1U4T7g7J
[12:59] <mparillo> So, if I enable backports, I can remove kubuntu-ppa/next-staging to test Plasma 5.2.95 ?
[13:00] <yofel> you should remove next-staging in any case, and backports will give you 5.3
[13:03] <BluesKaj> hope the reboot brings the desktop and not the black screen I had with the staging ppa
[13:04] <BluesKaj> lots of problems with nvidia and X on 15.04
[13:04] <yofel> really? I'm fine here..
[13:04] <soee> yeah a lot of users complain about nvidia, black-screen etc.
[13:05] <yofel> my GPU is a bit old though
[13:08] <Riddell> soee: jose and ovidiu-florin are waiting for canonical sysadmins to set it up
[13:22] <BluesKaj> here goes with the plasma 5.3 workspace 
[13:36] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[13:36] <darthanubis> my apt broke with mime-support
[13:46] <BluesKaj> success! all seems well after the installing plasma 5.3 :)
[14:24] <soee> :)
[14:25] <darthanubis> soee: my mime-suport is broken. Might that be 5.3 related?
[14:38] <soee> darthanubis: it shuldn't
[14:39] <soee> Riddell: any thoughts ^
[14:41] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[14:42] <darthanubis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898316/
[14:42] <darthanubis> apport won't file bug
[14:42] <darthanubis> brb
[14:58] <darthanubis> k
[16:40] <BluesKaj> the addon installer for themes, colours, widgetsa etc is not connecting to the internet ...error out
[16:53] <snele> BluesKaj: http://kde-look.org/ not available atm
[16:53] <BluesKaj> could be because kde-look.org is doen for maintanence
[16:54] <BluesKaj> err down
[16:57] <BluesKaj> err maintenance
[17:05]  * BluesKaj needs to study spelling
[19:50] <ovidiu-florin> Hellooooooo world :D:D
[19:53] <soee_> hiho ovidiu-florin
[19:53] <ahoneybun> hey ovidiu-florin
[19:54] <BluesKaj> lots of troubles still, with 15.04, unfortunately 
[19:57] <soee_> BluesKaj: what exactly ?
[20:01] <BluesKaj> desktop effects/OpenGL with intel gpu for example 
[20:01] <soee_> woho Debian 8.0 Jessie has been released! http://
[20:05] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: on your computer?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, no
[20:06] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: can you provide any links? or something 
[20:08] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, we've trying to solve the problem in #kubuntu...it's a new problem , can't sya it's abug yet because my laptop has the same driver/gpu but works fine.
[20:09] <ovidiu-florin> why do we still ship with 2 kwallets?
[20:09] <ovidiu-florin> why do we still need the old one?
[20:10] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: ask him/her to send a stacktrace or something so we can analyze it
[20:12] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: The kde 4 wallet is probably for kde 4 apps.
[20:13] <ovidiu-florin> I suspected...
[20:13] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[20:13] <ahoneybun> sup
[20:14] <ovidiu-florin> have you seen NIcholas's mail? and Rick's reply?
[20:14] <ovidiu-florin> about UOS?
[20:14] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, it's not crashing , system settings doesn't seem to accept his choices in the compositor
[20:14] <ahoneybun> yea
[20:14] <ahoneybun> rick wants to team up with you 
[20:14] <ovidiu-florin> let's have a hangout tomorrow with rick and talk about this?
[20:14] <ahoneybun> sure'
[20:15] <ovidiu-florin> shall we say 21 My time?
[20:15] <ovidiu-florin> BluesKaj: starting SS from Konsole prints anything?
[20:15] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: last time it was 21:30
[20:15] <ahoneybun> which would be 14 or 15 mine
[20:16] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can we make this public?
[20:16] <ahoneybun> as in that the hangout if happening?
[20:16] <ahoneybun> *is
[20:17] <ovidiu-florin> no, I mean make the hangout one of my "how to be a community member" show
[20:18] <ahoneybun> oh your asking if its ok with me to upload it to YouTube?
[20:18] <ovidiu-florin> or better not to, because there will be some planning about stuff, or?
[20:18] <ovidiu-florin> I'll send an email to you and rick and ask about this.
[20:18] <ahoneybun> ok
[20:19] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: can you pm me your email?
[20:24] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: the UOS is public planning anyway lol
[20:26] <ovidiu-florin> then you can reply to my email as such
[20:26] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: since you have exp on HTML and CSS maybe you could help me theme http://docs.kubuntu.org/
[20:27] <ovidiu-florin> sure
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> can we do this tomorrow?
[20:28] <ahoneybun> of course
[20:28] <ovidiu-florin> it's late now and I just wanted to catch up
[20:28] <ahoneybun> ok I'm taking ideas from http://docs.xubuntu.org/
[20:31] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: that kde theme needs an upgrade
[20:34] <ahoneybun> yes
[20:34] <ahoneybun> we'll talk more tomorrow 
[20:35]  * ahoneybun goes to work on his van's raduo
[20:35] <ahoneybun> *radio