=== len is now known as Guest43193 [00:53] Seems my screen freeze and other issues may have been multiple monitor issues. [00:54] Let it sit for a while and see how she handles. [02:02] hey? [02:10] http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0 [02:14] does anyone know where the splash screens for are for plasma5 ? [02:17] lol [02:17] there are none ...yet === len is now known as Guest69247 [02:19] no where they are stored [02:26] knock knock, hello? [02:27] !ask [02:27] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [02:27] kubuntu 15.04 will work on amd sempron 3850 cpu? [02:28] try a live disc [02:29] okay, what's system requirement? [02:29] Kubuntu keeps blanking to a blank color randomly and theres no way to recover. Its happening way more frequently too.. does anyone know a solution for this? [02:30] Shurtagul: check dmesg for errors. [02:30] sithlord48: how do I do that [02:31] run dmesg in a konsole [02:32] reborn: im going to guess 512mb ram opengl 2 support [02:32] I dont see anything that looks like an error [02:33] Shurtagul: you may also want to check you system logs in /var/log that should be more info filled [02:35] so stable? [02:35] mime-support broken for anyone else? [02:36] reborn: seams stable to me [02:37] ok [02:37] the biggest issues im having is finding the config dir for the splash screens [02:41] how it was going for screensaver to disable? [02:42] I was really hoping it was a bug with plasma or something === roberto is now known as Guest38760 === len is now known as Guest95564 [04:48] since upgrade to 15.04, several systray icons don't appear: knemo, dropbox, etc. Any solution to this? What's causing it? [04:53] mefisto: bugs [04:53] and people still believe in dropbox? [04:54] hyper_ch: what is a more believable alternative? [04:54] depend what you need [04:55] hyper_ch: like dropbox, free, folder syncing [04:55] rsync [04:56] ?? [04:56] rsync syncs folders from a to b [04:56] that's software, right? not really a service like dropbox [04:57] dropbox also consists of software [04:57] ok thanks [04:57] then there's ownCloud and bittorrent sync [04:57] and a lot of other tools [04:58] but it all depends what you need... "folder syncing" doesn't say much [04:58] do you want to share with others [04:58] it's it syncing in both ways [04:58] do you need a local copy at all, if not maybe sshfs or cifs over openvpn [04:59] I just don't like my data be stored some place where I don't know what they do ;) [05:00] but if you don't mind that and don't won't any hassle setting it up, then go with dropbox ;) === len is now known as Guest15406 [05:34] is there a keyboard shortcut by default to open konsole? [05:37] nope there isn't [05:38] not exactly what you're looking for but krunner does the job [05:40] talking about alt+space? [05:40] alt-f2 [05:40] *alt+f2 [05:40] ahh thats what krunner is.. good to know.. yeah I was using that just getting tired of typing.. figured out a way to make meta+t open konsole now though. [05:40] h [05:40] first time using KDE in years.. its..... beautiful lol [05:40] same for me [05:41] getting used to it [05:41] Yeah I as well.. its very customizable [05:41] I feel like I can customize it to feel like openbox very easily then just have the benefits of KDE along with it [05:41] Just don't add beta ppa to upgrade plasma :D [05:42] mmm [05:42] is there an equivalent to ctrl+shift+u? === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [05:43] for unide characters [05:43] *unicode [05:47] nvm [05:47] got it === kubuntu is now known as Guest1556 === _zxq9_ is now known as zxq9 [07:44] 'morning [08:25] Good Moorning [09:20] hi,is there a way to get the system tray working with gtk apps? [09:30] assurbanipal, check out this http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ [09:31] ejay: i did but cannot figure out the solution!i installed the packages he suggests but still not working for me [09:31] systray is a mess right now so be prepared for some ass solutions [09:32] ejay: is a MAJOR drawback... [09:33] did you try installing trayer? [09:33] it is not working for me either (except this wmsystemtray) [09:33] i prefer it over wmsystemtray [09:33] but it's ugly like holy hell [09:33] we need to wait till they repair/finish systray [09:34] MoonUnit`: trayer at least displays the entries, but overlaps with the panel [09:34] if you type trayer --help you can see it has a lot of options. [09:34] you can move it where you want, how long/high and transparancy [09:41] System Tray is a widget, so maybe is not that hard to make it work with gtk apps [09:41] but I wonder how can I find source for it [09:41] I made tray working , but looks ugly as hell [09:43] is there a systray issue with 15.04? [09:45] Avihay_work: gtk apps are not displayd. so no pidgin or thinderbird in tray [09:45] same for skype etc [09:45] *sadface* [09:46] Avihay_work: it was a slap in the face for me too [09:46] additionally i get often i would say crashes in plasma. refreshes the desktop and that's it. but not nice [09:47] so the usual then? [09:48] I've spend whole yesterday to make new kubuntu usable but man this new systray is pain in the butt. Also broken Breeze dark is making me sad. [09:49] is it me or does Breeze Dark keep the panel white? [09:50] pho_ : For me it is fine [09:50] pho_, it's not you. panel is white and it's the only thing I want dark. [09:50] and dark [09:51] another thing annoying is that sorting by name is case sensitive - files and folders with capital names appear first. so folder "bin" will appear after folder "Zones" in folder applet and in picking files etc... not nice [09:52] Okay, thank you. === Imer is now known as Imer66 === Imer66 is now known as Imer === Imer is now known as Imer64 [09:54] Do you think these bugs will get fixed in next months? Or it's a dream :D [09:55] pkulas - I think they will be as a lot of people are experiencing these bugs. [09:55] well, it only took 4 years till the broken default task manager was replaced [09:56] pho_ : There is are also dolphin bugged [09:56] Where? [09:56] Can't add new places, even if You add, it's getting lost after new dolphin instance [09:57] pkulas: i have succefully added places to dolphin [09:57] assurbanipal : how? [09:58] oh, I see.. [09:58] ps: my upgrade from 14.10 broke. Got stuck. On reboot, my pc was getting stuck at boot. had to format and make clean install [09:59] woops! pkulas u are right! new places cannot be added. it is because of my previous config that I have extra places [09:59] :D [09:59] I tried to install updates for plasma from beta ppa [09:59] After it system was totally broken, and had to reinstall Kubuntu [09:59] damn, that is a lot of bugs that affect productivity. imho still not ready [10:00] should have stick with kde 4.. [10:00] "We're sorry, Plasma closed unexpectedly." not again.. [10:01] pho_: I get that all the time [10:01] :/ [10:01] assurbanipal: How could I restart it? [10:01] especially if I do the following: create a widget and drag it from one screen to the other. boom. plasma dies [10:01] kquitapp plasma-desktop then plasma-desktop again [10:02] pho_: for me it restarts :( [10:02] but no idea if that's gonna work [10:02] plasma-desktop: command not found [10:02] assurbanipal: i also expected it to restart but it didn't.. [10:02] oh sorry maybe it's a guide for some old version then [10:03] okay.. [10:04] pho_: as I said, trying to work with it since yesterday - first impression - not ready for work yet... If I knew I would not have updated. of course some bugs were expected but at the moment looks kind of messy... [10:05] i would expect that new users and people who don't want to troubleshoot all the time will get really pissed off after installing kubuntu 15.04. Not stable enough and buggy [10:07] i hated the transition from 3.5 to 4.0, it will will be like that for plasma5 for some users. might take a few years though lol. [10:08] what is the best way to dump the Kubuntu15.04 .iso into memory stick [10:08] there was one using dd but that was clunky [10:09] I think I can just cp the file with the right additional flags [10:09] startup disc creator should be installed. [10:09] GUI? [10:09] yup [10:09] awful [10:09] *disk [10:09] give me cli solutoin [10:10] dd then :) [10:10] ddrescue [10:10] jubo2: in general dd is the most reliable way for burning isos. unetbootin and other graphical tools might not work with some distros [10:10] dd if=image.iso of=...? === fred is now known as Guest97232 === Guest97232 is now known as fred250d [10:11] jubo2: of = your output device = no partition. [10:11] I would really like that that multi-boot USB disk creator thingy-tsydem does... if it would work [10:11] alors.. [10:11] /dev/sdb [10:11] jubo2 : This works nice : sudo ddrescue -d -D --force iso /dev/device [10:11] the ubuntu mate download site suggests, sudo ddrescue -d -D --force ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso /dev/sdx, adjust to your iso and device. [10:12] You need to install gddrescue package to have ddrescue [10:12] pkulas: and to get the device id I need to issue one of several o [10:12] *potential commands [10:12] lstat? [10:12] jubo2: fdisk -l [10:12] I don't recall [10:12] as sudo [10:13] pkulas: and the -d and the -D do what? [10:14] https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html [10:15] Back again. My laptop with kubuntu doesn't work anymore after reboot. [10:15] pkulas: there is no ddrescue === boos_ is now known as ap31r0n [10:15] and apt doesn't know it either [10:15] jubo2 : sudo apt-get install gddrescue [10:15] well, I'm curious enough to download and run it in a VM [10:15] the OS works.. BUT the desktop is just black and a Telegram window (which I had open before rebooting).. [10:15] there it is [10:16] I cant start anything using Alt+F2. [10:16] pho_ : What did you change before restart? [10:16] Nothing. Before restart plasma crashed. I tried plasma or plasma-desktop in the terminal, then sudo reboot. [10:17] And before plasma crash? [10:17] GNU ddrescue running *smiles* [10:17] pkulas, Before plasma crash I only had the IRC running. [10:18] kubuntu should still be in early alpha. [10:19] try ksystemlog maybe there is some info why it crashes [10:19] pho_: Kubuntu is awesome. You get FireFox unlike in Debian GNU/Linux [10:19] if you want stability and reliability then the flavour of the day is often Debian GNU/Linukka [10:21] jubo2, it is but not in that buggy state. It has to be possible to reach stability and reliability without Debian too. [10:21] pkulas, any hints on how I can get to a bash session? [10:21] pho_: all the *Ubuntu are Debian derivs you know.. [10:22] I turn the netbook mode off 1st thing [10:22] jubo2, I do. but I thought you meant "pure" Debian. [10:22] it is nice navigation to have the full screen task switcher sometimes but that it is the only navigation BAHH! Such strain on visual centers [10:23] pho_ : You want console mode? [10:23] pkulas, yup. [10:23] pho _ : Ctr + alt + F1-F6, Ctrl+alt+F7 is back to plasma [10:24] got teh Kubuntu15.04 on the stick now [10:24] off to maman's to eat and test the live-cd mode [10:25] Thanks. Will try it in a few minutes. [10:25] Anyone know why my windows keep opening on my secondary monitor rather than primary [10:27] Zerkalerka, what if you drag them to the other monitor and reopen them? [10:33] then they will open there temporarily, but if I reboot or come back after computer goes suspend it defautls back to secondary lol [10:41] i made a 10-monitor.conf for my dual screen, you can set which screen is primary. [10:51] is there a sample monitor.conf I can look at so I know how to set it up? [10:53] here's mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/10896355/ === xubuntu is now known as Guest90895 [11:01] Zerkalerka, I had similiar problem with in KDE4. Making rules to force to open in first monitor fixed this. [11:01] ejay: in a monitor.conf file?\ [11:04] lol , dolphin not respond when kde is working with 2 files at once [11:04] when I close 1 tab is back to work === Guest90895 is now known as Guest88588 [11:05] kate* not kde [11:06] Zerkalerka, you can click on window icon (left-upper corner) to invoke menu and there you can make rules for certain windows or whole apps. [11:13] in window rules? [11:27] Zerklarka, yes [11:29] HI, i've just upgrade to 15.04 from 14.10, I've reset kde, but plasmashell eating my memory [11:36] hexch, what do you mean by "eating"? is it constantly taking more and more of your memory or just form the start memory useage is high? [11:41] hexch : check htop for real usage [11:42] hexch : top and memory widget show cached memory, not real usage [11:45] pkulas, hexck, plasma shell is taking less then 300MB in my case. It's not a lot. [11:45] firefox is taking 700MB and this is why I hate modern browsers [11:47] hello [11:50] I just upgraded to 15.04. The new IM app mostly works fine, except when I'm in this one chatroom on a Prosody server, where it fails to display around half the messages, sent *or* received. Looking at the chat history in another client it appears the messages I send are actually making it to the room though. [11:55] How do i enable a quick launch panel in Vivid? [11:57] lolmaus, if you mean plasmoid then there is no such plasmoid at this moment. [11:58] Perhaps there's another channel specific to that IM app? [11:59] ejay: can i reuse the old one? [12:00] lolmouse, as far as I know they changed API so no, you can't. === Vito_ is now known as Vito [12:25] Hiyas all [12:29] hi [12:32] hi [12:32] Hello! Anyone experiencing problems with audio in 15.04? [12:33] luc4, can you elaborate? [12:39] ejay: simply no audio [12:40] ejay: I tried to set in “multimedia” the one named “Bilt-in audio analog stereo” but still no audio. [12:46] luc4, did you upgraded from prev versoin or it is fresh installation? [12:47] updated from 1410 to 1504 - now computer suspends after 5 min inactivity. All times on power mgmt energy saving are 30 min or longer. where do I change suspend time? [12:52] ejay: updated from 14.10 [12:56] whiteda: settings/desktop behaviour/screen locking [12:56] nevermind finally found it while waiting [12:56] MoonUnit`, thanks [13:04] luc4, you need to ask google. I tried to find something in this topic but did not found nothing interesting. [13:04] sry [13:05] ejay: done that already, that is why I asked here. [13:05] tried with previous kernel, no audio. [13:11] luc4, what doe, lspci | grep -i audio, show in the terminal [13:11] does === luca__ is now known as luc4_kubuntu [13:14] BluesKaj: https://paste.kde.org/pyrwjn1im [13:18] luc4_kubuntu, run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, if there's no error/output then the driver loaded preoperly..you probly need to reboot...this is known bug with intel driver not loading after an upgrade [13:19] BluesKaj: no error. but I did 1000 reboots before I could make the new kubuntu work here. So a reboot won't fix audio. [13:20] BluesKaj: also tried kernel 3.16 without success [13:20] yea, but make sure you run the command first [13:20] luc4_kubuntu : Did you try Kubuntu 15.04 live if audio works there? [13:20] pkulas: no, that I didn't try [13:21] BluesKaj: ok, so I ran the command, trying to reboot again. See you in a min. [13:21] no matter you need to reboot after the command luc4_kubuntu , it works 90% of the time [13:22] luc4_kubuntu : With checking 15.04 live you would know if problem is new packages or because of upgrade [13:24] hello if plasmashell 5.2.2 is note ready why the hell they make it downoloadable oh my god to much bug now the plasmashell doesn't even work [13:27] BluesKaj: unfortunately no way [13:27] BluesKaj: audio still not working [13:28] have you checked alsamixer automute to make sure it's disabled , luc4 [13:28] I want to shrink existing Kubuntu14 disk to fit in a Kubuntu15 [13:29] should I do this in the Kubuntu14 or the Kubuntu15 installer ? [13:30] BluesKaj: yes, it seems to be enabled [13:30] jubo2, what exactly do you want to do, upgrade fro 14.10 to 15.04 or? [13:30] I want clean Kubuntu15 install [13:30] luc4, then disable automute [13:30] clean, fresh, clean, fresh [13:30] jubo2 : the do it with 15.04 disc [13:30] also need 64-bit system to enable the Android emulator [13:31] pkulas: ok [13:31] then* [13:31] BluesKaj: oh interesting... [13:31] jubo2, do you have / and /home partitions? [13:31] BluesKaj: no, just / [13:32] what about your data jubo2 , do you have it backed up ? [13:32] I will be getting all my cloud storage needs from MaidSafe Network just as soon as it goes online [13:32] BluesKaj: I disabled but nothing changed. Now I notice that in “Audio Hardware setup” the test works if I select “Headphones” [13:32] BluesKaj: yeah. I chose all the relevant dirs from homedir [13:32] .tar.gz'ed 'em and to USB stick [13:32] BluesKaj: yes, everything works now [13:33] jubo2 : You should use dd or ddrescue with iso to make usb live [13:33] I used the ddrescue [13:33] ok jubo suggest you use manual partioning, but auto will probly work since you use just / [13:33] and not work? [13:33] gonna boot from USB stick and see if I can into shrinking the existing EXT4 partition [13:34] BluesKaj: seems a KDE bug… [13:34] BluesKaj: but not sure… may be somewhere else [13:34] luc4, no the bug also applies to unity and gnome [13:35] BluesKaj: what? This thing related to the headphones? [13:36] luc4, it doesn';t happen as often as last yr , but it's still around [13:36] BluesKaj: I see… ok then, at least audio is ok now [13:36] not related to headphones, luc4 [13:36] BluesKaj: thanks! [13:36] luc4, you're welcome , glad to help [13:37] BluesKaj: yes, it seems lower level. alsamixer reports headphones at 100% volume, and Speaker 0%. But audio comes out from the speaker. [13:38] BluesKaj: so, as it seems the kernel is not reponsible… maybe alsa? [13:40] http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0 [13:41] Resizing the existing partition [13:41] Anyone who still has a 3,5" floppy drive? I upgraded one of my servers to Debian Jessie, and it panics on detecting fd0. Since Kubuntu also has systemd, are there no panics there? (Disabled it in BIOS to boot) [13:41] I gonna get Android devel environment [13:42] jubodrei : Is it worth to make Android dev environment on plasma 5? [13:43] morning. is there a metapackage to install all kde games in kubuntu-15.04? === jacob_ is now known as Guest13792 [13:47] Marquel: I wouldn't. Some are still broken [13:47] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_15.04.0_vivid.html [13:48] Ok, well how do I report this mime-support bug so it can get fixed? [13:51] darthanubis: don't care too much. it's a ten-year-old netbook just to get someone acquainted to linux, who's pissed windows doesn't have all teh games. [13:51] the package is kde-games [13:52] !kde-games [13:52] nope [13:52] Hey, a netbook. That reminds me, is there a netbook mode for plasma5? [13:53] !kdegames [13:54] there used to be a meta package [13:54] !kde-full [13:58] Success! [14:01] juboxi, was going to recommend a / and /home partition for future ease of installs of OS releases [14:01] BluesKaj: too late [14:01] now well, if there's currently no meta-package for this, it'll probably be there later and until then, installation will be done game-by-game. [14:02] thanks. [14:02] I gonna get a terabyte disk and move this 200GB partition there and expand [14:02] yeah juboxi you left too quickly [14:02] Shiny! [14:04] * juboxi does the new OS version dance [14:06] http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0 [14:06] * juboxi is liking it [14:08] Hey there guys [14:08] So I went in the input settings and swapped Caps Lock and Escape. [14:09] It works great most of the time, but in some applications/situations it stops working or works in a strange manner. [14:10] For example, when I open the game Torchlight 2, Caps Lock does nothing, and Escape does *both* Caps Lock and Escape. [14:11] Anyone knows a solution to that? Is there a more low-level swap that would make it work universally, or a way to swap for the entire system vs just one user?\ [14:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898316/ [14:16] CodeBot3000, capslock is nothing but a pita for me...I just disable it and use the shift for capitlization [14:17] I will now make an 'sudo apt install' list [14:18] sudo apt install gimp inkscape kdenlive [14:19] Blender I prlly want to get the latest and not the distribution verison [14:19] sudo apt install apache mysql mysql-server php [14:19] juboxi, you don't need to tell us all about it here , maybe in offtopic [14:19] juboxi [14:20] There is now blender in steam ^ [14:20] BluesKaj: I'm a programmer, so Caps Lock comes quite handy for me. However not nearly as handy as the Escape key, which I need for Vim. [14:20] CONSTANTS IN CAPS [14:21] Yeah, Blender on Steam is nice because it will be updated to the latest version. [14:21] I know steam is something for games [14:21] lot of games [14:21] juboxi: nah. EVERY VAR IN CAPS. [14:21] Is it something more now [14:21] CodeBot3000: USE BRAINFUCK AS PRIMARY IMPLEMENTATION LANGUAGE [14:21] juboxi: Well, now they have apps on it, mostly related to create game-related content? [14:22] CodeBot3000: It'd be so nice to do elementary 3-D [14:22] So I want the latest Blender [14:22] juboxi: Actually, my favorite thing this week: https://dogescript.com/live/ === kubuntu is now known as Guest99964 [14:23] I hear Blender is also a non-linear video editor.. could it be due to it being a compositor [14:23] juboxi: It is, I use it for video editing a lot. [14:23] compositor > editor [14:23] I use kdenlive [14:23] juboxi: It has both. [14:24] I think I want to install FreeCAD or something [14:24] !language | CodeBot3000 [14:24] CodeBot3000: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [14:24] I want it all, the LFGOSS candy [14:25] darthanubis: Am I not speaking calm, polite English? [14:26] there was some profanity [14:26] Propane? [14:26] Nitrous Oxide? [14:26] darthanubis: It wasn't me who said it, but 'BRAINFUCK' is the name of a programming language. === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [14:27] brainfuck is a programming language where none of the alphanumeric mean anything so no comment signs are required [14:27] jubo2, now that language is profane [14:28] NO COMMENT SIGNS! [14:28] BluesKaj: Hahahah [14:28] please stop [14:57] Hello [14:59] A couple of days ago I updated to 15.10 on an old laptop and after the login screen everything was black. I spent a few hours debugging but nothing worked. Now I downloaded 15.10 on a USB drive and started it from there, and I can only see the background with the triangles [15:00] Does this mean that 15.04 can not work on my system and I have to stick to 14.10? [15:02] Taggnostr4 : How old laptop is it [15:02] Taggnostr4: that's more or less what happens to me in VirtualBox [15:02] Quite old, 8+ years [15:02] after I install guest additions gfx driver [15:03] Taggnostr4 : for such old pc i would rather think about a distro with xfce/lxde [15:03] When I asked a couple of days ago a few people reported similar issues [15:04] pkulas, 14.10 was running fine, apparently the problem is related to the nvidia drivers on 15.04 [15:05] At some point I managed to get windows to show up, but they were without borders [15:05] I had to click blindly on the bottom left to get the menu to appear from the darkness [15:06] Did you try to restart live usb? Sometimes it happens to crash [15:06] Another symptom I noticed was kwin_x11 eating all the CPU [15:06] Trying now [15:07] What I'm talking about was after I upgraded the main installation [15:07] oh so 14.10 to 15.04 [15:07] another bug reported [15:07] Many people reported some problems after upgrade [15:08] pkulas, yes [15:08] it's a major change [15:08] new kernel [15:08] systemd [15:08] plasma 5 [15:08] Now I got a live usb and I'm trying with that [15:09] But it still doesn't seem to work [15:11] After a reboot I don't even get the triangles background [15:12] Everything is black and the PC is not responding [15:12] Taggnostr4: I did a complete fresh install [15:13] hyper_ch, did it work? [15:14] fresh install did but there's till a lot of bugs I have to complain about ;) [15:14] as said, it's a major change [15:14] I'm trying to figure out of there's a way to get 15.04 to work, possibly without formatting [15:14] If* [15:14] Taggnostr4: well, I backed up first.... (I always have backups, make them nightly) [15:14] Otherwise I'll have to format and reinstall 14.10 [15:15] wipped system and installed 15.04 ;) [15:15] And it worked at the first attempt? [15:16] Did any1 try to get work with this ppa https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/beta ? [15:16] Taggnostr4: yes [15:17] pkulas: I have that also isntalled [15:17] hyper_ch : Does it work for you? [15:17] I tried yesterday and it broken my whole plasma, I had to reinstall system [15:17] yes [15:17] After upgrading to Vivid, i've got a problem with fonts in terminal: bold text won't fit and results in a glitch. Any ideas how to resolve that? [15:19]