[00:53] <jason_> Seems my screen freeze and other issues may have been multiple monitor issues.
[00:54] <jason_> Let it sit for a while and see how she handles.
[02:02] <reborn> hey?
[02:10] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[02:14] <sithlord48> does anyone know where the splash screens for are for plasma5 ?
[02:17] <darthanubis> lol
[02:17] <darthanubis> there are none ...yet
[02:19] <sithlord48> no where they are stored
[02:26] <reborn> knock knock, hello?
[02:27] <tuv0k> !ask
[02:27] <reborn> kubuntu 15.04 will work on amd sempron 3850 cpu?
[02:28] <sithlord48> try a live disc
[02:29] <reborn> okay, what's system requirement?
[02:29] <Shurtagul> Kubuntu keeps blanking to a blank color randomly and theres no way to recover. Its happening way more frequently too.. does anyone know a solution for this?
[02:30] <sithlord48> Shurtagul:  check dmesg for errors.
[02:30] <Shurtagul> sithlord48: how do I do that
[02:31] <sithlord48> run dmesg in a konsole
[02:32] <sithlord48> reborn:  im going to guess 512mb ram opengl 2 support
[02:32] <Shurtagul> I dont see anything that looks like an error
[02:33] <sithlord48> Shurtagul:  you may also want to check you system logs in /var/log  that should be more info filled
[02:35] <reborn> so stable?
[02:35] <tuv0k> mime-support broken for anyone else?
[02:36] <sithlord48> reborn: seams stable to me
[02:37] <reborn> ok
[02:37] <sithlord48> the biggest issues im having is finding the config dir for the splash screens
[02:41] <reborn> how it was going for screensaver to disable?
[02:42] <Shurtagul> I was really hoping it was a bug with plasma or something
[04:48] <mefisto> since upgrade to 15.04, several systray icons don't appear: knemo, dropbox, etc. Any solution to this? What's causing it?
[04:53] <hyper_ch> mefisto: bugs
[04:53] <hyper_ch> and people still believe in dropbox?
[04:54] <mefisto> hyper_ch: what is a more believable alternative?
[04:54] <hyper_ch> depend what you need
[04:55] <mefisto> hyper_ch: like dropbox, free, folder syncing
[04:55] <hyper_ch> rsync
[04:56] <mefisto> ??
[04:56] <hyper_ch> rsync syncs folders from a to b
[04:56] <mefisto> that's software, right? not really a service like dropbox
[04:57] <hyper_ch> dropbox also consists of software
[04:57] <mefisto> ok thanks
[04:57] <hyper_ch> then there's ownCloud and bittorrent sync
[04:57] <hyper_ch> and a lot of other tools
[04:58] <hyper_ch> but it all depends what you need... "folder syncing" doesn't say much
[04:58] <hyper_ch> do you want to share with others
[04:58] <hyper_ch> it's it syncing in both ways
[04:58] <hyper_ch> do you need a local copy at all, if not maybe sshfs or cifs over openvpn
[04:59] <hyper_ch> I just don't like my data be stored some place where I don't know what they do ;)
[05:00] <hyper_ch> but if you don't mind that and don't won't any hassle setting it up, then go with dropbox ;)
[05:34] <Zerkalerka> is there a keyboard shortcut by default to open konsole?
[05:37] <Zerkalerka> nope there isn't
[05:38] <Hairo> not exactly what you're looking for but krunner does the job
[05:40] <Zerkalerka> talking about alt+space?
[05:40] <Hairo> alt-f2
[05:40] <Hairo> *alt+f2
[05:40] <Zerkalerka> ahh thats what krunner is.. good to know.. yeah I was using that just getting tired of typing.. figured out a way to make meta+t open konsole now though.
[05:40] <Hairo> h
[05:40] <Zerkalerka> first time using KDE in years.. its..... beautiful lol
[05:40] <Hairo> same for me
[05:41] <Hairo> getting used to it
[05:41] <Zerkalerka> Yeah I as well.. its very customizable
[05:41] <Zerkalerka> I feel like I can customize it to feel like openbox very easily then just have the benefits of KDE along with it
[05:41] <pkulas> Just don't add beta ppa to upgrade plasma :D
[05:42] <Hairo> mmm
[05:42] <Hairo> is there an equivalent to ctrl+shift+u?
[05:43] <Hairo> for unide characters
[05:43] <Hairo> *unicode
[05:47] <Hairo> nvm
[05:47] <Hairo> got it
[07:44] <PhilippeP> 'morning
[08:25] <jiyuhen> Good Moorning
[09:20] <assurbanipal> hi,is there a way to get the system tray working with gtk apps?
[09:30] <ejay> assurbanipal, check out this http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[09:31] <assurbanipal> ejay: i did but cannot figure out the solution!i installed the packages he suggests but still not working for me
[09:31] <ejay> systray is a mess right now so be prepared for some ass solutions
[09:32] <assurbanipal> ejay: is a MAJOR drawback...
[09:33] <MoonUnit`> did you try installing trayer?
[09:33] <ejay> it is not working for me either (except this wmsystemtray)
[09:33] <MoonUnit`> i prefer it over wmsystemtray
[09:33] <ejay> but it's ugly like holy hell
[09:33] <ejay> we need to wait till they repair/finish systray
[09:34] <assurbanipal> MoonUnit`: trayer at least displays the entries, but overlaps with the panel
[09:34] <MoonUnit`> if you type trayer --help you can see it has a lot of options.
[09:34] <MoonUnit`> you can move it where you want, how long/high and transparancy
[09:41] <pkulas> System Tray is a widget, so maybe is not that hard to make it work with gtk apps
[09:41] <pkulas> but I wonder how can I find source for it
[09:41] <assurbanipal> I made tray working , but looks ugly as hell
[09:43] <Avihay_work> is there a systray issue with 15.04?
[09:45] <assurbanipal> Avihay_work: gtk apps are not displayd. so no pidgin or thinderbird in tray
[09:45] <pkulas> same for skype etc
[09:45] <Avihay_work> *sadface*
[09:46] <assurbanipal> Avihay_work: it was a slap in the face for me too
[09:46] <assurbanipal> additionally i get often i would say crashes in plasma. refreshes the desktop and that's it. but not nice
[09:47] <Avihay_work> so the usual then?
[09:48] <ejay> I've spend whole yesterday to make new kubuntu usable but man this new systray is pain in the butt. Also broken Breeze dark is making me sad.
[09:49] <pho_> is it me or does Breeze Dark keep the panel white?
[09:50] <pkulas> pho_ : For me it is fine
[09:50] <ejay> pho_, it's not you. panel is white and it's the only thing I want dark.
[09:50] <pkulas> and dark
[09:51] <assurbanipal> another thing annoying is that sorting by name is case sensitive - files and folders with capital names appear first. so folder "bin" will appear after folder "Zones" in folder applet and in picking files etc... not nice
[09:52] <pho_> Okay, thank you.
[09:54] <pkulas> Do you think these bugs will get fixed in next months? Or it's a dream :D
[09:55] <pho_> pkulas - I think they will be as a lot of people are experiencing these bugs.
[09:55] <Avihay_work> well, it only took 4 years till the broken default task manager was replaced
[09:56] <pkulas> pho_ : There  is are also  dolphin bugged
[09:56] <pho_> Where?
[09:56] <pkulas> Can't add new places, even if You add, it's getting lost after new dolphin instance
[09:57] <assurbanipal> pkulas: i have succefully added places to dolphin
[09:57] <pkulas> assurbanipal : how?
[09:58] <pho_> oh, I see..
[09:58] <assurbanipal> ps: my upgrade from 14.10 broke. Got stuck. On reboot, my pc was getting stuck at boot. had to format and make clean install
[09:59] <assurbanipal> woops! pkulas u are right! new places cannot be added. it is because of my previous config that I have extra places
[09:59] <pkulas> :D
[09:59] <pkulas> I tried to install updates for plasma from beta ppa
[09:59] <pkulas> After it system was totally broken, and had to reinstall Kubuntu
[09:59] <assurbanipal> damn, that is a lot of bugs that affect productivity. imho still not ready
[10:00] <assurbanipal> should have stick with kde 4..
[10:00] <pho_> "We're sorry, Plasma closed unexpectedly." not again..
[10:01] <assurbanipal> pho_: I get that all the time
[10:01] <pho_> :/
[10:01] <pho_> assurbanipal: How could I restart it?
[10:01] <assurbanipal> especially if I do the following: create a widget and drag it from one screen to the other. boom. plasma dies
[10:01] <pkulas> kquitapp plasma-desktop then plasma-desktop again
[10:02] <assurbanipal> pho_: for me it restarts :(
[10:02] <pkulas> but no idea if that's gonna work
[10:02] <pho_> plasma-desktop: command not found
[10:02] <pho_> assurbanipal: i also expected it to restart but it didn't..
[10:02] <pkulas> oh sorry maybe it's a guide for some old version then
[10:03] <pho_> okay..
[10:04] <assurbanipal> pho_: as I said, trying to work with it since yesterday - first impression - not ready for work yet... If I knew I would not have updated. of course some bugs were expected but at the moment looks kind of messy...
[10:05] <assurbanipal> i would expect that new users and people who don't want to troubleshoot all the time will get really pissed off after installing kubuntu 15.04. Not stable enough and buggy
[10:07] <MoonUnit`> i hated the transition from 3.5 to 4.0, it will will be like that for plasma5 for some users. might take a few years though lol.
[10:08] <jubo2> what is the best way to dump the Kubuntu15.04 .iso into memory stick
[10:08] <jubo2> there was one using dd but that was clunky
[10:09] <jubo2> I think I can just cp the file with the right additional flags
[10:09] <MoonUnit`> startup disc creator should be installed.
[10:09] <jubo2> GUI?
[10:09] <MoonUnit`> yup
[10:09] <jubo2> awful
[10:09] <MoonUnit`> *disk
[10:09] <jubo2> give me cli solutoin
[10:10] <MoonUnit`> dd then :)
[10:10] <pkulas> ddrescue
[10:10] <assurbanipal> jubo2:  in general dd is the most reliable way for burning isos. unetbootin and other graphical tools might not work with some distros
[10:10] <jubo2> dd if=image.iso of=...?
[10:11] <assurbanipal> jubo2: of = your output device = no partition.
[10:11] <jubo2> I would really like that that multi-boot USB disk creator thingy-tsydem does... if it would work
[10:11] <jubo2> alors..
[10:11] <jubo2> /dev/sdb
[10:11] <pkulas> jubo2 : This works nice : sudo ddrescue -d -D --force  iso /dev/device
[10:11] <MoonUnit`> the ubuntu mate download site suggests, sudo ddrescue -d -D --force ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso /dev/sdx, adjust to your iso and device.
[10:12] <pkulas> You need to install gddrescue package to have ddrescue
[10:12] <jubo2> pkulas: and to get the device id I need to issue one of several o
[10:12] <jubo2> *potential commands
[10:12] <jubo2> lstat?
[10:12] <pkulas> jubo2: fdisk -l
[10:12] <jubo2> I don't recall
[10:12] <pkulas> as sudo
[10:13] <jubo2> pkulas: and the -d and the -D do what?
[10:14] <MoonUnit`> https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html
[10:15] <pho_> Back again. My laptop with kubuntu doesn't work anymore after reboot.
[10:15] <jubo2> pkulas: there is no ddrescue
[10:15] <jubo2> and apt doesn't know it either
[10:15] <pkulas> jubo2 : sudo apt-get install gddrescue
[10:15] <Avihay_work> well, I'm curious enough to download and run it in a VM
[10:15] <pho_> the OS works.. BUT the desktop is just black and a Telegram window (which I had open before rebooting)..
[10:15] <pkulas> there it is
[10:16] <pho_> I cant start anything using Alt+F2.
[10:16] <pkulas> pho_ : What did you change before restart?
[10:16] <pho_> Nothing. Before restart plasma crashed. I tried plasma or plasma-desktop in the terminal, then sudo reboot.
[10:17] <pkulas> And before plasma crash?
[10:17] <jubo2> GNU ddrescue running *smiles*
[10:17] <pho_> pkulas, Before plasma crash I only had the IRC running.
[10:18] <pho_> kubuntu should still be in early alpha.
[10:19] <pkulas> try ksystemlog maybe there is some info why it crashes
[10:19] <jubo2> pho_: Kubuntu is awesome. You get FireFox unlike in Debian GNU/Linux
[10:19] <jubo2> if you want stability and reliability then the flavour of the day is often Debian GNU/Linukka
[10:21] <pho_> jubo2, it is but not in that buggy state. It has to be possible to reach stability and reliability without Debian too.
[10:21] <pho_> pkulas, any hints on how I can get to a bash session?
[10:21] <jubo2> pho_: all the *Ubuntu are Debian derivs you know..
[10:22] <jubo2> I turn the netbook mode off 1st thing
[10:22] <pho_> jubo2, I do. but I thought you meant "pure" Debian.
[10:22] <jubo2> it is nice navigation to have the full screen task switcher sometimes but that it is the only navigation BAHH! Such strain on visual centers
[10:23] <pkulas> pho_ : You want console mode?
[10:23] <pho_> pkulas, yup.
[10:23] <pkulas> pho _ : Ctr + alt + F1-F6, Ctrl+alt+F7 is back to plasma
[10:24] <jubo2> got teh Kubuntu15.04 on the stick now
[10:24] <jubo2> off to maman's to eat and test the live-cd mode
[10:25] <pho_> Thanks. Will try it in a few minutes.
[10:25] <Zerkalerka> Anyone know why my windows keep opening on my secondary monitor rather than primary
[10:27] <pho_> Zerkalerka, what if you drag them to the other monitor and reopen them?
[10:33] <Zerkalerka> then they will open there temporarily, but if I reboot or come back after computer goes suspend it defautls back to secondary lol
[10:41] <MoonUnit`> i made a 10-monitor.conf for my dual screen, you can set which screen is primary.
[10:51] <Zerkalerka> is there a sample monitor.conf I can look at so I know how to set it up?
[10:53] <MoonUnit`> here's mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/10896355/
[11:01] <ejay> Zerkalerka, I had similiar problem with in KDE4. Making rules to force to open in first monitor fixed this.
[11:01] <Zerkalerka> ejay: in a monitor.conf file?\
[11:04] <pkulas> lol , dolphin not respond when kde is working with 2 files at once
[11:04] <pkulas> when I close 1 tab is back to work
[11:05] <pkulas> kate* not kde
[11:06] <ejay> Zerkalerka, you can click on window icon (left-upper corner) to invoke menu and there you can make rules for certain windows or whole apps.
[11:13] <Zerkalerka> in window rules?
[11:27] <ejay> Zerklarka, yes
[11:29] <hexch> HI, i've just upgrade to 15.04 from 14.10, I've reset kde, but plasmashell eating my memory
[11:36] <ejay> hexch, what do you mean by "eating"? is it constantly taking more and more of your memory or just form the start memory useage is high?
[11:41] <pkulas> hexch : check htop for real usage
[11:42] <pkulas> hexch : top and memory widget show cached memory, not real usage
[11:45] <ejay> pkulas, hexck, plasma shell is taking less then 300MB in my case. It's not a lot.
[11:45] <ejay> firefox is taking 700MB and this is why I hate modern browsers
[11:47] <LogicalDash> hello
[11:50] <LogicalDash> I just upgraded to 15.04. The new IM app mostly works fine, except when I'm in this one chatroom on a Prosody server, where it fails to display around half the messages, sent *or* received. Looking at the chat history in another client it appears the messages I send are actually making it to the room though.
[11:55] <lolmaus> How do i enable a quick launch panel in Vivid?
[11:57] <ejay> lolmaus, if you mean plasmoid then there is no such plasmoid at this moment.
[11:58] <LogicalDash> Perhaps there's another channel specific to that IM app?
[11:59] <lolmaus> ejay: can i reuse the old one?
[12:00] <ejay> lolmouse, as far as I know they changed API so no, you can't.
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:29] <MoonUnit`> hi
[12:32] <ejay> hi
[12:32] <luc4> Hello! Anyone experiencing problems with audio in 15.04?
[12:33] <ejay> luc4, can you elaborate?
[12:39] <luc4> ejay: simply no audio
[12:40] <luc4> ejay: I tried to set in “multimedia” the one named “Bilt-in audio analog stereo” but still no audio.
[12:46] <ejay> luc4, did you upgraded from prev versoin or it is fresh installation?
[12:47] <whiteda> updated from 1410 to 1504 - now computer suspends after 5 min inactivity.  All times on power mgmt energy saving are 30 min or longer.  where do I change suspend time?
[12:52] <luc4> ejay: updated from 14.10
[12:56] <MoonUnit`> whiteda: settings/desktop behaviour/screen locking
[12:56] <whiteda> nevermind finally found it while waiting
[12:56] <whiteda> MoonUnit`, thanks
[13:04] <ejay> luc4, you need to ask google. I tried to find something in this topic but did not found nothing interesting.
[13:04] <ejay> sry
[13:05] <luc4> ejay: done that already, that is why I asked here.
[13:05] <luc4> tried with previous kernel, no audio.
[13:11] <BluesKaj> luc4, what doe, lspci | grep -i audio, show in the terminal
[13:11] <BluesKaj> does
[13:14] <luc4_kubuntu> BluesKaj: https://paste.kde.org/pyrwjn1im
[13:18] <BluesKaj> luc4_kubuntu, run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, if there's no error/output then the driver loaded preoperly..you probly need to reboot...this is known bug with intel driver not loading after an upgrade
[13:19] <luc4_kubuntu> BluesKaj: no error. but I did 1000 reboots before I could make the new kubuntu work here. So a reboot won't fix audio.
[13:20] <luc4_kubuntu> BluesKaj: also tried kernel 3.16 without success
[13:20] <BluesKaj> yea, but make sure you run the command first
[13:20] <pkulas> luc4_kubuntu : Did you try Kubuntu 15.04 live if audio works there?
[13:20] <luc4_kubuntu> pkulas: no, that I didn't try
[13:21] <luc4_kubuntu> BluesKaj: ok, so I ran the command, trying to reboot again. See you in a min.
[13:21] <BluesKaj> no matter you need to reboot after the command luc4_kubuntu , it works 90% of the time
[13:22] <pkulas> luc4_kubuntu : With checking 15.04 live you would know if problem is new packages or because of upgrade
[13:24] <kairox> hello if plasmashell 5.2.2 is note ready why the hell they make it downoloadable oh my god to much bug now the plasmashell doesn't even work
[13:27] <luc4> BluesKaj: unfortunately no way
[13:27] <luc4> BluesKaj: audio still not working
[13:28] <BluesKaj> have you checked alsamixer automute to make sure it's disabled , luc4
[13:28] <jubo2> I want to shrink existing Kubuntu14 disk to fit in a Kubuntu15
[13:29] <jubo2> should I do this in the Kubuntu14 or the Kubuntu15 installer ?
[13:30] <luc4> BluesKaj: yes, it seems to be enabled
[13:30] <BluesKaj> jubo2, what exactly do you want to do, upgrade fro 14.10 to 15.04 or?
[13:30] <jubo2> I want clean Kubuntu15 install
[13:30] <BluesKaj> luc4, then disable automute
[13:30] <jubo2> clean, fresh, clean, fresh
[13:30] <pkulas> jubo2 : the do it with 15.04 disc
[13:30] <jubo2> also need 64-bit system to enable the Android emulator
[13:31] <jubo2> pkulas: ok
[13:31] <pkulas> then*
[13:31] <luc4> BluesKaj: oh interesting...
[13:31] <BluesKaj> jubo2, do you have / and /home  partitions?
[13:31] <jubo2> BluesKaj: no, just /
[13:32] <BluesKaj> what about your data jubo2 , do you have it backed up ?
[13:32] <jubo2> I will be getting all my cloud storage needs from MaidSafe Network just as soon as it goes online
[13:32] <luc4> BluesKaj: I disabled but nothing changed. Now I notice that in “Audio Hardware setup” the test works if I select “Headphones”
[13:32] <jubo2> BluesKaj: yeah. I chose all the relevant dirs from homedir
[13:32] <jubo2> .tar.gz'ed 'em and to USB stick
[13:32] <luc4> BluesKaj: yes, everything works now
[13:33] <pkulas> jubo2 : You should use dd or ddrescue with iso to make usb live
[13:33] <jubo2> I used the ddrescue
[13:33] <BluesKaj> ok jubo suggest you use manual partioning, but auto will probly work since you use just /
[13:33] <pkulas> and not work?
[13:33] <jubo2> gonna boot from USB stick and see if I can into shrinking the existing EXT4 partition
[13:34] <luc4> BluesKaj: seems a KDE bug…
[13:34] <luc4> BluesKaj: but not sure… may be somewhere else
[13:34] <BluesKaj> luc4, no the bug also applies to unity and gnome
[13:35] <luc4> BluesKaj: what? This thing related to the headphones?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> luc4, it doesn';t happen as often as last yr , but it's still around
[13:36] <luc4> BluesKaj: I see… ok then, at least audio is ok now
[13:36] <BluesKaj> not related to headphones, luc4
[13:36] <luc4> BluesKaj: thanks!
[13:36] <BluesKaj> luc4, you're welcome , glad to help
[13:37] <luc4> BluesKaj: yes, it seems lower level. alsamixer reports headphones at 100% volume, and Speaker 0%. But audio comes out from the speaker.
[13:38] <luc4> BluesKaj: so, as it seems the kernel is not reponsible… maybe alsa?
[13:40] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[13:41] <jubodrei> Resizing the existing partition
[13:41] <alvin> Anyone who still has a 3,5" floppy drive? I upgraded one of my servers to Debian Jessie, and it panics on detecting fd0. Since Kubuntu also has systemd, are there no panics there? (Disabled it in BIOS to boot)
[13:41] <jubodrei> I gonna get Android devel environment
[13:42] <pkulas> jubodrei : Is it worth  to make Android  dev environment on plasma 5?
[13:43] <Marquel> morning. is there a metapackage to install all kde games in kubuntu-15.04?
[13:47] <darthanubis> Marquel: I wouldn't. Some are still broken
[13:47] <darthanubis> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_15.04.0_vivid.html
[13:48] <darthanubis> Ok, well how do I report this mime-support bug so it can get fixed?
[13:51] <Marquel> darthanubis: don't care too much. it's a ten-year-old netbook just to get someone acquainted to linux, who's pissed windows doesn't have all teh games.
[13:51] <darthanubis> the package is kde-games
[13:52] <darthanubis> !kde-games
[13:52] <darthanubis> nope
[13:52] <alvin> Hey, a netbook. That reminds me, is there a netbook mode for plasma5?
[13:53] <darthanubis> !kdegames
[13:54] <darthanubis> there used to be a meta package
[13:54] <darthanubis> !kde-full
[13:58] <juboxi> Success!
[14:01] <BluesKaj> juboxi, was going to recommend a / and /home partition for future ease of installs of OS releases
[14:01] <juboxi> BluesKaj: too late
[14:01] <Marquel> now well, if there's currently no meta-package for this, it'll probably be there later and until then, installation will be done game-by-game.
[14:02] <Marquel> thanks.
[14:02] <juboxi> I gonna get a terabyte disk and move this 200GB partition there and expand
[14:02] <BluesKaj> yeah juboxi you left too quickly
[14:02] <juboxi> Shiny!
[14:04]  * juboxi does the new OS version dance
[14:06] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/5v02NVQ0
[14:06]  * juboxi is liking it
[14:08] <CodeBot3000> Hey there guys
[14:08] <CodeBot3000> So I went in the input settings and swapped Caps Lock and Escape.
[14:09] <CodeBot3000> It works great most of the time, but in some applications/situations it stops working or works in a strange manner.
[14:10] <CodeBot3000> For example, when I open the game Torchlight 2, Caps Lock does nothing, and Escape does *both* Caps Lock and Escape.
[14:11] <CodeBot3000> Anyone knows a solution to that? Is there a more low-level swap that would make it work universally, or a way to swap for the entire system vs just one user?\
[14:15] <darthanubis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898316/
[14:16] <BluesKaj> CodeBot3000, capslock is nothing but a pita for me...I just disable it and use the shift for capitlization
[14:17] <juboxi> I will now make an 'sudo apt install' list
[14:18] <juboxi> sudo apt install gimp inkscape kdenlive
[14:19] <juboxi> Blender I prlly want to get the latest and not the distribution verison
[14:19] <juboxi> sudo apt install apache mysql mysql-server php
[14:19] <BluesKaj> juboxi, you don't need to tell us all about it here , maybe in offtopic
[14:19] <pkulas> juboxi
[14:20] <pkulas> There is now blender in steam ^
[14:20] <CodeBot3000> BluesKaj: I'm a programmer, so Caps Lock comes quite handy for me. However not nearly as handy as the Escape key, which I need for Vim.
[14:20] <juboxi> CONSTANTS IN CAPS
[14:21] <CodeBot3000> Yeah, Blender on Steam is nice because it will be updated to the latest version.
[14:21] <juboxi> I know steam is something for games
[14:21] <juboxi> lot of games
[14:21] <CodeBot3000> juboxi: nah. EVERY VAR IN CAPS.
[14:21] <juboxi> Is it something more now
[14:21] <juboxi> CodeBot3000: USE BRAINFUCK AS PRIMARY IMPLEMENTATION LANGUAGE
[14:21] <CodeBot3000> juboxi: Well, now they have apps on it, mostly related to create game-related content?
[14:22] <juboxi> CodeBot3000: It'd be so nice to do elementary 3-D
[14:22] <juboxi> So I want the latest Blender
[14:22] <CodeBot3000> juboxi: Actually, my favorite thing this week: https://dogescript.com/live/
[14:23] <juboxi> I hear Blender is also a non-linear video editor.. could it be due to it being a compositor
[14:23] <CodeBot3000> juboxi: It is, I use it for video editing a lot.
[14:23] <juboxi> compositor > editor
[14:23] <juboxi> I use kdenlive
[14:23] <CodeBot3000> juboxi: It has both.
[14:24] <juboxi> I think I want to install FreeCAD or something
[14:24] <darthanubis> !language | CodeBot3000
[14:24] <juboxi> I want it all, the LFGOSS candy
[14:25] <CodeBot3000> darthanubis: Am I not speaking calm, polite English?
[14:26] <darthanubis> there was some profanity
[14:26] <juboxi> Propane?
[14:26] <juboxi> Nitrous Oxide?
[14:26] <CodeBot3000> darthanubis: It wasn't me who said it, but 'BRAINFUCK' is the name of a programming language.
[14:27] <jubo2> brainfuck is a programming language where none of the alphanumeric mean anything so no comment signs are required
[14:27] <BluesKaj> jubo2, now that language is profane
[14:28] <jubo2> NO COMMENT SIGNS!
[14:28] <CodeBot3000> BluesKaj: Hahahah
[14:28] <BluesKaj> please stop
[14:57] <Taggnostr4> Hello
[14:59] <Taggnostr4> A couple of days ago I updated to 15.10 on an old laptop and after the login screen everything was black. I spent a few hours debugging but nothing worked. Now I downloaded 15.10 on a USB drive and started it from there, and I can only see the background with the triangles
[15:00] <Taggnostr4> Does this mean that 15.04 can not work on my system and I have to stick to 14.10?
[15:02] <pkulas> Taggnostr4 : How old laptop is it
[15:02] <Avihay_work> Taggnostr4: that's more or less what happens to me in VirtualBox
[15:02] <Taggnostr4> Quite old, 8+ years
[15:02] <Avihay_work> after I install guest additions gfx driver
[15:03] <pkulas> Taggnostr4 : for such old pc i would rather think about a distro with xfce/lxde
[15:03] <Taggnostr4> When I asked a couple of days ago a few people reported similar issues
[15:04] <Taggnostr4> pkulas, 14.10 was running fine, apparently the problem is related to the nvidia drivers on 15.04
[15:05] <Taggnostr4> At some point I managed to get windows to show up, but they were without borders
[15:05] <Taggnostr4> I had to click blindly on the bottom left to get the menu to appear from the darkness
[15:06] <pkulas> Did you try to restart live usb? Sometimes it happens to crash
[15:06] <Taggnostr4> Another symptom I noticed was kwin_x11 eating all the CPU
[15:06] <Taggnostr4> Trying now
[15:07] <Taggnostr4> What I'm talking about was after I upgraded the main installation
[15:07] <pkulas> oh so 14.10 to 15.04
[15:07] <hyper_ch> another bug reported
[15:07] <pkulas> Many people reported some problems after upgrade
[15:08] <Taggnostr4> pkulas, yes
[15:08] <hyper_ch> it's a major change
[15:08] <hyper_ch> new kernel
[15:08] <hyper_ch> systemd
[15:08] <hyper_ch> plasma 5
[15:08] <Taggnostr4> Now I got a live usb and I'm trying with that
[15:09] <Taggnostr4> But it still doesn't seem to work
[15:11] <Taggnostr4> After a reboot I don't even get the triangles background
[15:12] <Taggnostr4> Everything is black and the PC is not responding
[15:12] <hyper_ch> Taggnostr4: I did a complete fresh install
[15:13] <Taggnostr4> hyper_ch, did it work?
[15:14] <hyper_ch> fresh install did but there's till a lot of bugs I have to complain about ;)
[15:14] <hyper_ch> as said, it's a major change
[15:14] <Taggnostr4> I'm trying to figure out of there's a way to get 15.04 to work, possibly without formatting
[15:14] <Taggnostr4> If*
[15:14] <hyper_ch> Taggnostr4: well, I backed up first.... (I always have backups, make them nightly)
[15:14] <Taggnostr4> Otherwise I'll have to format and reinstall 14.10
[15:15] <hyper_ch> wipped system and installed 15.04 ;)
[15:15] <Taggnostr4> And it worked at the first attempt?
[15:16] <pkulas> Did any1 try to get work with this ppa https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/beta ?
[15:16] <hyper_ch> Taggnostr4: yes
[15:17] <hyper_ch> pkulas: I have that also isntalled
[15:17] <pkulas> hyper_ch : Does it work for you?
[15:17] <pkulas> I tried yesterday and it broken my whole plasma, I had to reinstall system
[15:17] <hyper_ch> yes
[15:17] <lolmaus> After upgrading to Vivid, i've got a problem with fonts in terminal: bold text won't fit and results in a glitch. Any ideas how to resolve that?
[15:19] <hyper_ch> lolmaus: screenshot.. no idea what you mean
[15:19] <Taggnostr4> From the live USB, if I get to a tty it asks me user and pass, is there a default one?
[15:19] <pkulas> Just type enter
[15:19] <pkulas> press*
[15:19] <pkulas> No password
[15:20] <Taggnostr4> What user should I use?
[15:20] <darthanubis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10898316/
[15:20] <Taggnostr4> It says "kubuntu login: " and if I press enter there it just shows the same prompt
[15:21] <pkulas> try kubuntu
[15:21] <Taggnostr4> That worked :)
[15:23] <Taggnostr4> If I do a "top" there's basically nothing running
[15:23] <Irish_Canon> Has anyone tried Kubuntu 15.04 yet
[15:24] <darthanubis> of course
[15:24] <Irish_Canon> What did you think of it
[15:24] <darthanubis> pretty..
[15:24] <darthanubis> shiny
[15:25] <darthanubis> buggy
[15:25] <darthanubis> clean install, do not upgrade
[15:25] <darthanubis> ymmv
[15:25] <Irish_Canon> usually its buggy til 15.10
[15:25] <darthanubis> but it is pretty
[15:25] <darthanubis> that has not been my experience
[15:25] <BluesKaj> Irish_Canon, depends whether you want to deal wirth some missing widgets etc
[15:26] <darthanubis> this version seems rushed
[15:26] <Taggnostr4> If I run startx from the terminal on the live USB another different blurry triangles background appears
[15:26] <darthanubis> missing widgets
[15:26] <darthanubis> missing apps
[15:26] <Taggnostr4> The mouse pointer also disappeared
[15:26] <darthanubis> broken mime-support
[15:26] <darthanubis> Irish_Canon: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_15.04.0_vivid.html
[15:27] <Irish_Canon> like i said things are usually not totally fix til x.10
[15:27] <darthanubis> like I said, that has not been my experience
[15:28] <Taggnostr4> Is there anything else I could try from the live USB?
[15:29] <JMichaelX> so, widgets like yawp cannot be used in plasma5?
[15:29] <darthanubis> nop
[15:29] <Taggnostr4> And if it doesn't work there, does it mean that all hope is lost?
[15:29] <darthanubis> JMichaelX: I love yawp, but it'll wait
[15:29] <darthanubis> unless I roll back
[15:30] <Irish_Canon> or, unless they recode yawp
[15:30] <JMichaelX> darthanubis: i upgraded one machine to 15.04... but i am not sure i'll upgrade any others
[15:31] <darthanubis> JMichaelX: my kodi box is running 15.04 xubuntu no issues...yet
[15:31]  * Taggnostr4 downloads 14.10
[15:31] <JMichaelX> well, i mean kubuntu 15.04
[15:31] <darthanubis> I don't know what is up with mime-support on my main machine
[15:32] <JMichaelX> is the only way to add app icons to the panel to select 'show launcher when not running'?
[15:32] <darthanubis> nice, gtk  themeing just kicked in
[15:33] <darthanubis> JMichaelX: I was able to drag and drop although I don't put icons on the taskbar
[15:33] <hyper_ch> stupid (K)ubuntu Locale setting
[15:34] <murthy> BluesKaj: are you there?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> murthy, yes
[15:36] <murthy> I think I just deleted files by mistake using the rm -rf command
[15:36] <ejay> For all of those that got issues with new systray: I found another solution to this provided by MoonUnit - http://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/2k0op8/system_tray_issues_in_plasma_51kf_53/cnqh9n8. Didn't tested it doe but it is probably another way to deal with GTK apps and plasma5 systray.
[15:36] <murthy> How do I know what files got deleted
[15:37] <murthy> The drive's symbolic link on which i used the command has a lot of family photos and important document
[15:37] <darthanubis> not good
[15:38] <murthy> I intended to delete the symbolic link but when the command was waiting, I realised the files are getting deleted in the background
[15:38] <BluesKaj> murthy, scroll back in the terminal to check the path you rm -rf'd
[15:38] <murthy> i will give you
[15:39] <darthanubis> lol! i fixed my issue myself, again!
[15:39] <darthanubis> whew!
[15:39] <darthanubis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/102480/sudo-apt-get-upgrade-fails-due-to-shared-mime-info-postinst-error
[15:39] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: I still have locale issues.... in KDE all seems fine... english UI with swiss german for other stuff like date/clock/currency.... however Konsole terminal shell is now german... how can I alter that to english?
[15:39] <hyper_ch> also, where can I report a plasma desktop bug to?
[15:40] <murthy> in the /media/<username>/ one of my drive is mounted as docs and I created a symbolic link using the command  ln -s docs docs2 from the same directory using the command line. after some time I did sudo rm -rf docs2
[15:40] <murthy> BluesKaj: ^
[15:41] <murthy> know how can i get a list of the files that the command removed/deleted
[15:42] <murthy> *now
[15:43] <BluesKaj> no I don't , murthy, sorry /:
[15:43] <murthy> ok
[15:44] <personal> Installing., Me : Do not fetch remote files kbuntu , Kbuntu : F U , ME : X X X X X , kbuntu : F U  .
[15:45] <BluesKaj> personal, we don't need a running display
[15:46] <BluesKaj> murthy, I doubt there's a method to repair rm -rf , but I could be wrong
[15:47] <murthy> BluesKaj: I am checking out this right now
[15:47] <murthy> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-ext3-ext4-deleted-files-recovery-howto.html
[15:52] <ralgozino> Hello there! A quick question: I was running Vivid Beta, should I reinstall the stable release or updating via apt-get is enough?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> update/upgrade and dist-upgrade should do it , ralgozino
[15:53] <darthanubis> ralgozino: should
[15:54] <darthanubis> If I didn't have an unresolvable issue I would have just stuck with the install I had
[15:54] <darthanubis> but I had to clean install
[15:54] <darthanubis> if you do, keep the /home dir
[16:03] <Obyone> How do i get a activities switcher on the bottom window bar.
[16:15] <mparillo> Right-click, add widgets, Activities?
[16:17] <hyper_ch> how can I switch the terminal to english in Kubuntu 15.04? KDE itself is already english
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[16:32] <lolmaus_> How do i prevent locking when idle? I disabled it in Power Management, but it still happens.
[16:33] <jubo2> lolmaus_: I'd like to stop that on my Kubuntu15 too
[16:33] <MoonUnit`> settings/desktop behaviour/screen locking
[16:34] <jubo2> Thanks MoonUnit`
[16:36] <JMichaelX> so i try to set background transparency in Konsole, but it does not seem to work. enabled wobbly windows, but that also does not seem to work... how does one tell whether or not desktop effects are working at all?
[16:41] <darthanubis> JMichaelX: sounds like you don't have the proper graphics driver enabled
[16:42] <JMichaelX> onboard intel graphics
[16:42] <JMichaelX> desktops effects had always worked before
[16:43] <darthanubis> ok good
[16:43] <darthanubis> make sure they are on
[16:43] <darthanubis> opengl 3.1
[16:43] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, one good test is to use virtual desktops with pager widget and desktop cube animation for switching said desktops
[16:44] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: i enabled desktop cube animation, but to no avail.... maybe i need to restart session
[16:44] <darthanubis> or make sure the Enable compositor on startup is checked in systemsettings
[16:45] <darthanubis> make sure you have the proper backend, opengl interface etc
[16:46] <BluesKaj> i have intel graphics on my laptop with no desktop effects problems JMichaelX , so the effects do work
[16:47] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, assume you updated and upgraded since the install
[16:57] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: yes, i have.
[16:57] <JMichaelX> i rebooted, but still no desktop effects
[16:58] <hyper_ch> what's the proper way to get the terminal into english mode was well?
[17:00] <ralgozino> thanks darthanubis and BluesKaj!
[17:00] <jubo2> hyper_ch: I think set locale to 'C' and that should give default of English behaviour in the cli
[17:00] <jubo2> not sure though
[17:01] <JMichaelX> my rendering backend was set to OpenGL 2.0. will now try 3.1
[17:01] <hyper_ch> jubo2: and how to do that?
[17:01] <jubo2> hyper_ch: I don't recall
[17:01] <darthanubis> Yw
[17:01] <hyper_ch> for some weird reason locale shows :   LANGUAGE=en_US:de
[17:01] <personal> I change system wide text size , but does not change the size of the desktop program icon's text.
[17:01] <jubo2> hyper_ch: setting the locale
[17:01] <hyper_ch> and I have no idea where it gets that from
[17:01] <hyper_ch> jubo2: how do you set the locale?
[17:02] <jubo2> hyper_ch: I don't recall
[17:04] <JMichaelX> yeah, no desktop effects, using onboard graphics, using an intel atom processor
[17:10] <JMichaelX> i do have desktop effects using XRender, however
[17:11] <JMichaelX> no idea what the downside to XRender might be. desktop cube does not work
[17:36] <JMichaelX> is there a plasma widget for weather that works with plasma5?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, I don't see one available
[17:39] <Obyone__> How do get firefox to use system fonts . I would like all progrms to use the system font it possible, that i set in the settings manager.
[17:39] <JMichaelX> ok, thanks
[17:39] <MoonUnit`> i'm using this one https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67806-The-first-of-plasma-5-weather-widgets
[17:39] <MoonUnit`> need to also install qml-module-qtquick-xmllistmodel to get it working.
[17:40] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, i think the widget downloader for get new widgets is kde-look.org and it's down for maintenance atm
[17:40] <MoonUnit`> yeah down for me too, that weather widget is there.
[17:40] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: ahh, that's why it's not working.
[17:40] <Hairo> mmm, no dropbox indicator?
[17:42] <MoonUnit`> you can get the weather widget from git https://github.com/librehat/com.librehat.yahooweather
[17:44] <MoonUnit`> wish it had a dark version though, hard to see with some themes.
[17:44] <JMichaelX> if anyone else is having issues getting OpenGL compositing to work in plasma5, with intel graphics, i'd love to hear about it
[17:44] <MoonUnit`> weather decals are white, not good with white themes
[17:45] <pkulas> I tried that weather widget yesterday but it didn't load weath info
[17:46] <MoonUnit`> did you install qml-module-qtquick-xmllistmodel?
[17:46] <MoonUnit`> won't run without it
[17:47] <pkulas> weather widget?
[17:48] <MoonUnit`> yeah
[17:48] <pkulas> oh
[17:48] <pkulas> I didn't
[17:48] <pkulas> I will try it, thanks
[17:50] <MoonUnit`> linux action show broadcasting live from linux fest north west atm.
[17:50] <MoonUnit`> http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/1030/jblive/
[17:52] <Aristide> Hi :)
[17:53] <Aristide> Plasma 5.3 is available for Kubuntu Vivid, but I don't have 5.3 version :/
[17:53] <pkulas> It's not
[17:53] <MoonUnit`> it's available as a beta http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5.3-beta
[17:54] <Hairo> don't install that
[17:54] <Hairo> it'll break
[17:55] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: would you happen to have the kubuntu ppa, and/or the backports ppa enabled on your system?
[17:55] <pkulas> For me it broke whole Kubuntu
[17:55] <Aristide> Oh OK :)
[17:55] <MoonUnit`> running ok for me
[17:55] <MoonUnit`> ymmv
[17:55] <pkulas> I simple added beta ppa then update then upgrade and after restart plasma crashing every few seconds.
[17:56] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX,yes
[17:56] <Aristide> I'm crazy
[17:56] <Aristide> Time to upgrade to 5.3 :D
[17:56] <pkulas> gl
[17:56] <JMichaelX> i am wondering if i might be able to get OpenGL compositiong working, if i install updates from both the kubuntu and the backports PPAs
[17:56] <MoonUnit`> this is where btrfs would come in handy if you could trust it
[17:58] <Aristide> Gogogog ! Thank's MoonUnit :)
[17:58] <MoonUnit`> gl :)
[17:58] <Aristide> :x
[17:59] <Aristide> Hop upgrade fired !!!!
[17:59] <Aristide> Yes !
[17:59] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, here's the backports ppa: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[17:59] <Aristide> Wut ?
[18:00] <Aristide> [Connexion à ppa.launchpad.net (10.10.10.10)]
[18:00] <Aristide> x)
[18:00] <Aristide> Oh, if I restart upgrade : Its work
[18:01] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, use at your own risk :-)
[18:02] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: is there not also a kubuntu ppa?
[18:05] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, that is the kubuntu-ppa
[18:07] <pkulas> I tried some beta ppa
[18:07] <pkulas> so maybe I did wrong ppa
[18:09] <BluesKaj> pkulas, no the kubuntu-next ppa data was moved to the backports-ppa
[18:14] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: i guess i was wondering about the updates PPA. maybe that is not available for vivid?
[18:14] <pkulas> I will try at night updates from backports-ppa , maybe that gonna work :)
[18:16] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, for plasma 5.3?
[18:17] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: no, this: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[18:17] <JMichaelX> or maybe that is what you meant
[18:20] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, I'm referring to 15.04 ppas here , not older releaeses
[18:21] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: i was asking whether or not  there was an updates PPA for 15.04
[18:22] <JMichaelX> there does not appear to be one
[18:23] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, there's no such animal
[18:24] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: so it was discontinued since the last release? it still existed for utopic
[18:25] <BluesKaj> it might becalled something else , never heard of an updates ppa
[18:25] <JMichaelX> it is what i just linked you to
[18:26] <JMichaelX> it was titled "Kubuntu Updates"
[18:26] <BluesKaj> it's not called updates yet, snce kde5 is still in development, that's what i assume
[18:27] <BluesKaj> if you'll notice the apps included in the "updates"
[18:28] <BluesKaj> n
[18:28] <BluesKaj> oops
[18:28] <PercyB> I was just thinking about having Kubuntu on an encrypted partition - it seems it's not possible atm. Maybe I'm mistaken, but the installer seems to work only with full disk encryption
[18:29] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, they're called "Mostly KDE point releases" , so we might see one for 15.04 later
[18:29] <lordievader> PercyB: You're gonna need the mini iso for that ;)
[18:30] <lordievader> Ubiquity is can do luks + lvm but with that option it will use the full disk.
[18:30] <PercyB> lordievader Great thanks. It's good to know that at least it's possible :)
[18:31] <lordievader> PercyB: If worse comes to pass you could allways do a debootstrap ;)
[18:34] <PercyB> lordievader Hmm, just found a blog with mini-iso guide - it looks like it's basically the debian installer. Great, that looks good, thx.
[18:35] <lordievader> PercyB: Jup, basic text installer.
[18:37] <Neuhristide> :3
[18:37] <Neuhristide> Lol I have break Kubuntu
[18:38] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: makes sense
[18:38] <Neuhristide> He don't want to reboot
[18:39] <Neuhristide> But first reboot has work :/ but has freeze in login entry
[18:41] <PercyB> lordievader As there is only a 14.04 Mini-iso for Ubuntu, does it mean I can only use it for installing 14.04 Kubuntu?
[18:41] <lordievader> Hmm, no 15.04? Nope don't know anything about that.
[18:41] <bazhang> !mini
[18:42] <PercyB> Well, there is no 15.04 mini-cd on the Ubuntu page yet
[18:44] <lordievader> PercyB: Vivid mini: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[18:46] <PercyB> lordievader Oh, great! Thank you
[18:46] <lordievader> PercyB: No problem ;)
[18:51] <JMichaelX> OK, i have tried anything i can think of. just cannot get desktop effects to work in 15.04, using OpenGL
[18:51] <BluesKaj> Neuhristide, drop to TT/VT , ctl+alt+F1-F6 , then update/upgrade and dist-upgrade
[18:53] <Neuhristide> Ok i try it now
[18:54] <Neuhristide> I have only a blinking _ cursor :3
[18:55] <Neuhristide> I try recovery mode
[18:55] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, intel graphics, should be using the i915 driver, run, dkms status, in the terminal
[18:55] <Neuhristide> Brtfs : Enabling ssd mode
[18:55] <Neuhristide> ... Ok
[18:56] <Neuhristide> Boot stop at this task
[18:57] <Neuhristide> This operation take lot of time ? Oo'
[18:57] <BluesKaj> if you have lots of upgrades
[18:58] <Neuhristide> Hm ... I speak about enabling ssd mode :3
[18:58] <Neuhristide> For brtfs
[18:59] <Neuhristide> Oh :')
[18:59] <Neuhristide> A kernel panic xD
[18:59] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: i have never had to use dkms for anything on this machine before. are you saying i may need to compile a module for intel graphics?
[18:59] <JMichaelX> there was no output for 'dkms status'
[19:00] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, no, just install dkms
[19:00] <JMichaelX> yes, i just installed it
[19:00] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, hang on let me get my laptop
[19:01] <Neuhristide> Ok my system is break
[19:05] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, run this to see which driver is in use: lspci -knn | egrep -A 3 'VGA|3D'
[19:05] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj:  Kernel driver in use: i915
[19:08] <JMichaelX> i am getting a *few* desktop effects, using XRender, but nothing under OpenGL
[19:09] <JMichaelX> i have shut off Blur, as well as a few others
[19:11] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, are you right up to date with all upgrades etc ?
[19:14] <ejay> Guys, is it me or when renaming directory (in dolphin) it creates a new folder with new name and leaving old dir with old name (but content is in new dir).
[19:15] <ejay> leaves*
[19:16] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: yes. also just installed all updates from backports PPA
[19:17] <JMichaelX> in other news, i turned off screen locking, but it is still locking the screen
[19:20] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, try a reboot then OpenGL
[19:21] <JMichaelX> BluesKaj: have rebooted multiple times
[19:22] <BluesKaj> since the backports upgrades?
[19:22] <JMichaelX> yes
[19:30] <MoonUnit`> JMichaelX: tried the 4.0 kernel?
[19:31] <JMichaelX> MoonUnit`: no. think there's a chance that could help?
[19:32] <MoonUnit`> can't hurt, intel are always making kernel changes.
[19:32] <MoonUnit`> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.0-vivid/
[19:34] <JMichaelX> MoonUnit`: thx. may give it a shot, later this afternoon. now time for gardening.
[19:41] <Longbottom> Hi, ist es möglich beim neuen kubuntu den Doppelklick in der Systemsteuerung und beim Öffnen von Dateien (z.B. kate) auszuschalten?
[19:41] <Longbottom> Die Doppelklick-Einstellung in den Systemeinstellungen hat darauf keinen Effekt.
[19:42] <BluesKaj> odd, because the 3.19 kernel works just fine on my intel laptop
[19:44] <BluesKaj> !de | Longbottom
[19:44] <Longbottom> Hi, can I change the double click in system settings to single click? The mouse setting has no effect on the system settings itself.
[19:46] <BluesKaj> Longbottom, system-settings>input devices>mouse
[19:46] <amari> Is there some PPA to download KDE apps 15.04?
[19:46] <MoonUnit`> there is a mouse setting in dolphin too.
[19:48] <BluesKaj> MoonUnit`, think the systemsettings mouse setting is global
[19:49] <Longbottom> BluesKaj: Both, the system-settings and the dolphin settings are single click. But system settings and the file dialog in kate need double click.
[19:49] <Etriaph> amari: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-15-04-Users-Can-Install-the-Gorgeous-Plasma-5-3-Beta-Desktop-479074.shtml
[19:49] <amari> Etriaph: I already installed the final from the backports ppa :)
[19:49] <amari> it's awesome :D
[19:50] <amari> but I wanted the apps, those aren't included I think, or are they?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> Longbottom, which kubuntu version, i have never encountered that
[19:50] <ejay> amari, what you mean by awesome? Can you provide some details?
[19:50] <Etriaph> amari: I haven't dared try yet.
[19:50] <Etriaph> amari: It's more than the 15.04 base has.
[19:50] <Longbottom> BluesKaj: I've updated to 15.04 today.
[19:50] <amari> ejay: Seems faster and more stable in my machine :D
[19:52] <BluesKaj> Longbottom, ok have you upgraded too?
[19:52] <ejay> amari, current version is fast and stable. I'm kinda hyped for more fast and stable experience. ;)
[19:52] <Longbottom> BluesKaj: yes.
[19:52] <Etriaph> Heck, I'll try it out.
[19:52] <amari> ejay: current had some crashes for me :P
[19:53] <amari> but this 5.3 seems to flow smoother
[19:53] <BluesKaj> yes amari, but as you can see some users still have serious problems
[19:54] <amari> BluesKaj: It's to be expected for the first release with plasma5. It's much better than I expected :D
[20:03] <Etriaph> Well... disappointed to only have Dolphin kde 4 build
[20:04] <BluesKaj> Etriaph, yup, and it's going to stay nthat way for a while  :/
[20:04] <Etriaph> This version is broken though.
[20:04] <Etriaph> Can't save a Place.
[20:06] <Etriaph> It's been reported on launchpad but it's getting me down :(
[20:06] <rosner> Здорова всем
[20:06] <Unit193> !ru | rosner
[20:07] <rosner> ок
[20:09] <Kaliraa> test
[20:10] <BluesKaj> Etriaph, it's a failure of plasma 4 integration with plsama 5/KF5, on some apps
[20:11] <Etriaph> Oh, I know, I'm not complaining, but I used to use Dolphin quite a bit with some crazy places setup :D
[20:18] <BluesKaj> JMichaelX, try launching systemsettings5 from the konsole to see if there are any errors
[20:24] <amari> Is there a way to make Libreoffice menus have a color when the mouse covers them?
[20:28] <mparillo> amari: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/04/03/#kubuntu-devel.html#t13:28
[20:29] <amari> mparillo: Which log should I check?
[20:30] <amari> mparillo: Just found the log. seems there won't be a fix soon, we can just wait...
[20:34] <MoonUnit`> you can remove libreoffice-kde
[20:53] <chindy> anyone else having troubles settting up konsole shortcut???
[20:55] <chindy> everytime i set it up and press apply/ok and close thie shortcut menue... the Command/URL is gone... what is left is noly trigger and the name.. that thereis supposed to be shortcut...
[20:59] <dizqo> do I need libmtp-runtime or jmtpfs (or both?) for transfering files to my android device through usb?
[21:45] <Taggnostr4> Hello
[21:46] <Taggnostr4> I'm trying to boot from a live USB, but apparently I have some issue with the nouveau drivers, is there a way to use the nvidia ones?
[21:47] <Taggnostr4> When kubuntu starts I see a white and black chessboard and I can't do anything from there
[21:48] <Taggnostr4> This is with a 32 bits live of 14.10
[21:49] <Taggnostr4> With the 64 bits version I can see the desktop background and access the tty, but the rest doesn't work
[21:51] <genii> !nomodeset | Taggnostr4
[21:52] <genii> Taggnostr4: There is not really a way to get the Nvidia proprietary drivers onto the livecd/liveusb, unfortunately
[21:53] <Taggnostr4> Thanks, I'm checking the link
[22:01] <genii> Taggnostr4: The alternative would be to use the minimal install CD ( which puts a commandline system ), from that minimal install to enable the restricted repositories, install all the prerequisites to the nvidia driver ( linux headers, dkms, and build essential) then the driver , reboot, install kubuntu-desktop
[22:02] <Taggnostr4> I tried nomodeset but the screen is still black
[22:02] <Taggnostr4> I'll do another attempt tomorrow
[22:02] <Taggnostr4> Thanks anyway
[22:04] <genii> Taggnostr4: Well, sorry it is being problemmatic, but glad to try and assist.
[22:10] <gunndawg> how can I create a bootable USB stick in 15.04? I used startup disk creator in 14.04 but 15.04 does not have that
[22:13] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: have you tried simply pressing F6 to enable nomodeset? At least this way you can be sure you didn't type it in the wrong place between other boot options. Basically F6, down, down down (highlight nomodeset), Enter
[22:13] <dizqo> (it worked for my old GeForce)
[22:14] <darthanubis> no video in dragonplayer
[22:14] <Taggnostr4> I tried F6 but the only thing it seemed to do was to toggle some output on and off
[22:14] <darthanubis> audio only
[22:15] <Taggnostr4> dizqo, when am I supposed to press it?
[22:15] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: (sorry I meant to clarify this is for when booting the installer cd/usb)
[22:15] <Taggnostr4> After the bios and before grub?
[22:17] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: right after your bios has finished loading (black screen) hold any key and the installing cd/usb should boot into a mode where you can set options. There use F6. This is only for booting from the installation media. I don't know if installing from a safe (nomodeset) environment fixes the problem for future boots from the hard drive though
[22:17] <Taggnostr4> I just tried again, it jumps from the screen with the Kubuntu logo to a log screen with info passing by
[22:19] <genii> gunndawg: The install image is now hybrid, you don't need to do anything tricky, just use dd to directly copy the iso file onto an USB stick
[22:22] <gunndawg> genii: oh really? so just drag the iso image into the usb drive and boot to it?
[22:24] <Taggnostr4> dizqo, I can't get f6 to work
[22:24] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: you need to hold a key(any key) before the kubuntu logo appears and until you see a screen with options. Try holding it right after leaving the bios when the blank screen appears.
[22:24] <genii> gunndawg: No, use command line. So if the image is in your home directory and called foo.iso and the usb you want to boot from is /dev/sdd  then in konsole: sudo dd if=foo.iso of=/dev/sdd
[22:24] <Taggnostr4> I'm using unebootin fwiw
[22:25] <Taggnostr4> So after it boots I get its menu
[22:25] <gunndawg> genii: thanks
[22:26] <genii> gunndawg: dd does not have a progress indicator, so after issuing the command, just wait until it returns back to the normal prompt
[22:26] <genii> ( this is normal behaviour)
[22:28] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: hmm maybe you get a grub menu at some point. Basically the time to press (and hold until options appear) the key is right when your pc starts booting the usbkey/dvd where your live desktop/install is. That's earlier than any Kubuntu logo.
[22:29] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: whatever you use to tell your pc to boot not from hard drive but from usb/dvd, be it the bios or grub, it's *right* after this step
[22:31] <dizqo> for me it looks like a black screen with a blinking white underscore at the top left corner and lasts for about 25 seconds (probably because its a dvd, needs to start spinning). I need to hold the key during the whole time to make sure I catch the moment where it looks to check if i'm pressing a key or not
[22:31] <Taggnostr4> I now tried to keep the space bar pressed, it just kept beeping until I left it, and the unetbootin menu appeared as usual
[22:32] <dizqo> if it beeps, i'm guessing you are still in the bios and have not started to boot yet
[22:33] <dizqo> can you make sure that you are booting the live media, and not from hard drive?
[22:33] <Taggnostr4> Yes
[22:33] <Taggnostr4> I disabled the HD from the bios
[22:34] <darthanubis> wonder if baloo_file was fixed. Lets see if it ever stops scanning
[22:34] <Taggnostr4> If I press shift I can get into the grub menu
[22:36] <dizqo> ok so there is grub on your live media, I'm really not sure but i would try to get into the grub menu, select the standard option and hold any key from there for as long as it takes (maybe a minutes)
[22:37] <kairox> hello every one how can i remove the plasma 5.2.2 desktop because i face some probleme with it and i want ot reinstall in again
[22:37] <dizqo> i can be a bit ocd, so I sometimes quickly lift my finger and press it back down every 5-10 seconds to make sure the key press is registered and all
[22:37] <Taggnostr4> Grub is on the HD, not sure about the live usb
[22:38] <dizqo> Taggnostr4: well if grub is only on the HD, you shouldn't even see it if you are actually booting from the live media
[22:38] <kairox> hello every one how can i remove the plasma 5.2.2 desktop because i face some probleme with it and i want ot reinstall in again
[22:39] <Taggnostr4> Yes, I can only see with the HD enabled
[22:41] <darthanubis> plasma 5.3 beta crashes 10x a day
[22:41] <darthanubis> at least
[22:41] <dizqo> You should re-do the steps to pick the dvd/usb drive in the bios and boot your install media. as soon as it's actually leaving the bios screen(s) and reading from the external media is when you press any key. no grub involved.
[22:46] <darthanubis> can anyone even logout?
[22:48] <igor_> hi all
[22:48] <darthanubis> hi
[22:48] <igor_> should i install amd proprietary drivers?
[22:49] <igor_> r2 graphics APU
[22:49] <igor_> i dont want to break OS
[22:49] <igor_> 15.04
[22:49] <igor_> kubuntu
[22:50] <pkulas> Kubuntu works fine after update to plasma 5.3, but I see same bugs thought..
[22:51] <pkulas> Any1 else can confirm this dolphin bug I have
[22:52] <pkulas> try open some text files with default kate by dolphin, can't open more than 2, when 2 opened dolphin freeze and need to close 1 tab at kate to fix it
[22:57] <gunndawg> how can I find out where my USB stick is mounted? I'm pretty sure its /dev/sdd but how do I check?
[22:59] <stoocot> pkulas: I have the same problem, also 5.3 from backports
[22:59] <pkulas> stoocot : I had this problem also with 5.2.2
[22:59] <genii> gunndawg: To clarify: sdd is the entire disk, sdd1,sdd2 and so on are partitions on that disk. For the dd command, you use the sdd which is not a partition
[23:11] <amundsen> hi
[23:11] <amundsen> firefox has some gtk icons in 15.04
[23:12] <amundsen> never had this troble before with kubuntu
[23:17] <pkulas> ok reported this problem with Dolphin, I hope i posted it at good place.
[23:26] <darthanubis> pkulas: I can't believe it
[23:27] <darthanubis> I have it as well plasma 5.2
[23:27] <darthanubis> KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/kate'
[23:27] <pkulas> dartanubis : I can't believe that no1 discovered it before :D
[23:27] <Hairo> i have it as well
[23:27] <Hairo> but is not consistent
[23:28] <Hairo> i get it once in a while
[23:28] <pkulas> I got it everytime
[23:28] <Hairo> and kate works fine
[23:28] <Hairo> so it's just a minor annoyance
[23:29] <darthanubis> well, if I wanted quality control, I'd have stayed with Debian
[23:30] <pkulas> quality control with very old software you mean :)
[23:30] <darthanubis> you must not know what you are doing
[23:30] <darthanubis> thats an OLD meme
[23:32] <darthanubis> even if it were still true, we are all here dealing with buggy new software
[23:32] <darthanubis> how many hours here instead of being productive using the system?
[23:34] <pkulas> Yeah, but some software just call for update
[23:35] <darthanubis> and then I update it
[23:35] <pkulas> I tried few times Debian but never liked it, more problems than benefit for me
[23:35] <darthanubis> plasma 5 will be great, but maybe it isn't yet on kubuntu
[23:35] <darthanubis> "problems"
[23:35] <darthanubis> it's not for everybody
[23:36] <darthanubis> but here we are, still problems
[23:36] <darthanubis> text editor can't open more than two files
[23:36] <darthanubis> cmon
[23:36] <darthanubis> thats silly
[23:36] <darthanubis> I wish I hadn't seen that
[23:36] <darthanubis> now I have to rethink my system. But thank you for pointing it out
[23:37] <Hairo> wat
[23:38] <Hairo> aside from the occasional kdeinit error kate works fine
[23:38] <pkulas> as long you don't open these files by Dolphin
[23:38] <Hairo> i'm only using dolphin
[23:38] <pkulas> It's not a big trouble
[23:38] <Hairo> been using it since beta2
[23:39] <pkulas> Yes but you can just open Kate then open files by it interface
[23:39] <pkulas> that's what I mean
[23:39] <Hairo> i'm opening file with dolphin
[23:39] <Hairo> i get the error dialog but it launchs anyway
[23:39] <Hairo> *opening the files
[23:40] <stoocot> had this problem a few weeks ago but I didn't open files one after another so coincidence was hard to catch
[23:40] <ralgozino> drag & drop works fine too
[23:41] <ralgozino> I've never noticed this bug untill now, wierd one indeed
[23:42] <pkulas> +1 for drag &drop
[23:42] <ralgozino> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339094
[23:43] <pkulas> Oh I didn't notice this
[23:43] <ralgozino> seems to be fixed: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=339094#c15
[23:43] <pkulas> And make new1 instead
[23:47] <stoocot> as I see dolphin is still kde4 app
[23:53] <amari> In kubuntu 15.04 my laptop doesn't keep the brightness settings after reboot. Does anyone have a fix for this? Is it general or happens only in some configurations?
[23:57] <pkulas> amari : Need to use xbacklight or similar app and add it to startup
[23:57] <pkulas> amari : I have same issue every distro and didn't find a fix yet
[23:58] <stoocot> brightness is restored to the level set under "systemsettings->energy saving" I set it to 50%