| bluesabre | knome: got an email request for a wallpaper-sized monkey artwork from http://xubuntu.org/news/15-04-release/ | 01:14 |
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| OvenWerks | Unit193: I am very happy with Xubuntu-core. I am thinking Studio could very easily be based on it directly. The default theme and look/feel just work. Our menu stub just works too. I should probably take a look at the xubuntu release as well and see if we would need to take anything out at all. That may work even better. | 02:16 |
| Unit193 | OvenWerks: Great! Glad to hear it. 64bit should be fine too now. | 02:17 |
| OvenWerks | Yes 64bit is what I am playing with in fact. | 02:18 |
| Unit193 | Great! Glad it's confirmed, and thanks a bunch for pointing it out. | 02:23 |
| OvenWerks | No problem. | 02:23 |
| hudsonkem | hello? | 03:03 |
| holstein | o/ | 03:03 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: maybe you are looking for the support channel? | 03:04 |
| hudsonkem | yes | 03:04 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: cool.. thats #xubuntu for xubuntu.. and #ubuntu as well, for general ubuntu support | 03:04 |
| hudsonkem | ok thx, so | 03:05 |
| hudsonkem | I have a cursor inssue, invisible cursor sometimes after reboot, im right to type here? | 03:06 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: well, as i said, the support channel is #xubuntu | 03:06 |
| hudsonkem | got it sorry. thx for all bye | 03:07 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: you can still right click and get a menu? its literally invisible? | 03:07 |
| hudsonkem | yes | 03:07 |
| hudsonkem | work but I can't see. and I must try 3 times reboot to this work | 03:08 |
| holstein | i suppose, i would look into my gpu driver, after simply updating the machine.. then, i would look at my user.. it would be helpful to note if the cursor is "invisible" at the login screen, or no.. | 03:08 |
| hudsonkem | yes reboot with invisible cursor | 03:09 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: please apply all updates | 03:10 |
| holstein | "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" | 03:10 |
| holstein | reboot, and *note* if the cursor is there at the login screen, and as other users | 03:10 |
| holstein | see if the issue is isolated to just the one user account | 03:11 |
| hudsonkem | I found other user with this inssue, so not alone me, | 03:11 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: users on *your* machine, friend | 03:12 |
| holstein | *not* just randomly someone else.. please try the guest user, and/or another user *account* | 03:12 |
| hudsonkem | well, other users around the world, in ubuntu report | 03:14 |
| hudsonkem | them said about org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xcursor | 03:14 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: sure, im not denying other users, as in, people, have that issue | 03:14 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: what im asking you to do has *nothing* to do with other people. im talking about user accounts on your machine | 03:14 |
| holstein | not other users, as in, people | 03:14 |
| holstein | please try as another user. the *guest* user.. login to your machine in the guest account, and test that the cursor works | 03:15 |
| hudsonkem | but, the trouble begin after lightdm start, when display GUI cursor is invisible | 03:15 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: so, as i ask, do you have a cursor in the guest account? yes or no? | 03:16 |
| hudsonkem | no | 03:16 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: ok.. are you up to date with upgrades, and rebooted into the most current kernel? yes? no? | 03:16 |
| hudsonkem | yes | 03:17 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: what GPU driver are you using? with what GPU hardware? | 03:17 |
| hudsonkem | just onboard or generic card drive | 03:18 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: sure.. i'll wait as you see what GPU you have, and driver, and report to me for further voluntaryy support, in the #xubuntu support channel.. thanks | 03:19 |
| hudsonkem | can you tell me commads to see that because I aways forgot that. | 03:20 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1795372 | 03:21 |
| hudsonkem | thx, so it took a long text, may I put in text file and upload it? | 03:24 |
| holstein | !paste | 03:25 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 03:25 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: also, please use #xubuntu for support.. thanks | 03:25 |
| hudsonkem | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10893230/ | 03:29 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: ok.. now, please, again, use the #xubuntu channel | 03:30 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: go there *now*, ok? do you understand? yes? no? | 03:30 |
| hudsonkem | yes, I am just here because You are asking me so I have to answer | 03:31 |
| hudsonkem | thank you bye | 03:31 |
| holstein | hudsonkem: just /join #xubuntu | 03:32 |
| OvenWerks | holstein: check if he used the start disk maker in the system menu and is running live. The problem went away when I used dd to put the image on the USB drive. It was only a problem when running live. | 04:31 |
| * OvenWerks guess he is a bit late... | 04:32 | |
| elfy | Unit193: boot with image, wait for it to autologin - fruitlessly, it wanted username/password | 06:11 |
| elfy | could be dodgy download | 06:13 |
| elfy | and apparently so, works in vbox - still issues in kvm | 06:27 |
| elfy | and we has 3 winners :) | 07:53 |
| elfy | new person showed up during final testing - p-brada - they win that | 07:54 |
| elfy | for the whole cycle - removing those previous recipients - dkessel :) | 07:54 |
| elfy | and for the whole cycle - in team - jjfrv8 reported 138 for us - thanks jjfrv8 :) | 07:55 |
| elfy | knome: when you have 5 minutes - a bit of help with LP bug search-fu ... | 08:14 |
| dkessel | yay, thank you guys :) | 08:45 |
| elfy | thank you ;) | 08:45 |
| elfy | not sure if you saw this or the mail first, but you have one of those too :D | 08:46 |
| dkessel | saw the mail first :) tbh i wouldn't have thought i would get stickers, as i have only had time to help in the beginning of the cycle. but i it still was enough number-wise :) | 08:47 |
| elfy | well - in this situation, it is numbers that count :) | 08:56 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: can we close bug 1441460 ? the actual problem can be resolved by changing one light-locker option | 10:57 |
| ubottu | bug 1441460 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "[xubuntu] Failing to sleep after inactivity - power manager error?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441460 | 10:57 |
| brainwash | I don't think that “When the screensaver is deactivated” should be the default, or should it? | 10:57 |
| bluesabre | brainwash: It sounds like a race condition | 11:01 |
| bluesabre | The new default we have is that light-locker doesn't autolock by default | 11:02 |
| bluesabre | unless suspending | 11:02 |
| brainwash | the problem is that locking the screen makes the user session inactive and xfpm is not able to auto suspend the system then | 11:02 |
| brainwash | it's the vt switching drawback | 11:03 |
| bluesabre | right, but sometimes the suspend signal gets through before the vt switch actually occurs, and thats (I think) the race condition | 11:03 |
| brainwash | uhm | 11:05 |
| brainwash | you mean lock on suspend | 11:06 |
| brainwash | the report is about auto suspending while the lock screen is active | 11:06 |
| bluesabre | oh, that one | 11:07 |
| brainwash | so, lock screen after 10min.. suspend system after 15min | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | I misunderstood the report | 11:07 |
| bluesabre | then yeah, you're right | 11:07 |
| brainwash | this use case is problematic, so what can be done other then telling the user to change the light-locker option? | 11:08 |
| brainwash | which does not solve the problem completely | 11:09 |
| brainwash | once you switch to the lock screen, then xfpm has not power anymore :) | 11:09 |
| bluesabre | nothing, we do not currently have a solution for that scenario | 11:09 |
| bluesabre | unless the answer is, use a different lock screen to satisfy your needs | 11:10 |
| brainwash | we can only hope that light-locker without the vt switch will be ready for 16.04 | 11:10 |
| brainwash | yeah | 11:10 |
| brainwash | bluesabre: did you read bug 1446247 ? | 11:45 |
| ubottu | bug 1446247 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 15.04 - No power indicator in applet indicator" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446247 | 11:45 |
| brainwash | Unit193 has not commented yet (ninja subscribed him) | 11:46 |
| brainwash | I don't know what the status or process is on this issue | 11:46 |
| Unit193 | I commented outside of the bug. | 12:52 |
| brainwash | what is the status? | 12:54 |
| brainwash | is someone taking care of this bug? | 12:54 |
| elfy | a rather blunt 12.04 is EOL announcement is drafted | 13:50 |
| elfy | pleia2: thinking about people like the mexican news report we have on x.org - do we know if there's much of an appetite out there for OEM installs? | 14:35 |
| elfy | now that Vivid is old hat - I'm looking to Wibbly now ;) | 14:36 |
| pleia2 | elfy: I've heard nothing wrt OEM installs, and they take a massive amount of work (automated testing, etc) | 14:36 |
| elfy | yea | 14:36 |
| elfy | but we 'could' do optional OEM tests - if it even works | 14:37 |
| elfy | Mate manage | 14:37 |
| elfy | just thinking of things here is all | 14:38 |
| pleia2 | I honestly don't know much about it, have just heard some of the rumblings from canonical about all the work put in to work with manufacturers | 14:42 |
| drc | pleia2: Rumblings or grumblings? | 14:43 |
| elfy | pleia2: yea I have seen the same type of thing, mostly davmor2 | 14:43 |
| elfy | just wondering if there is a 'market' for it generally | 14:44 |
| elfy | I'd rather mix it up in 15.10 and need to mail list more frequently this cycle, try and get more of a constant flow | 14:45 |
| elfy | anyway - as I said - just thinking :) | 14:45 |
| elfy | you go back to looking forward to Sunday :D | 14:45 |
| pleia2 | drc: yes ;) | 14:48 |
| pleia2 | elfy: short of an OEM approaching us (they haven't), I'm inclined to say it's not a good investment of our time | 14:48 |
| pleia2 | but yay for ideas | 14:49 |
| elfy | but the guy installing in a bunch of places in Mexico might have like to know it was possible | 14:50 |
| elfy | that was the germ of the idea : | 14:50 |
| elfy | ) | 14:50 |
| elfy | blaming you :D | 14:50 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 14:52 |
| drc | always blame the mouthpiece :) | 14:53 |
| elfy | drc: of course - I thought you were older than me and would know :D | 14:53 |
| drc | OK, so where's the 15.10-omega iso? | 14:57 |
| elfy | currently it is still called 15.04-arch.iso :) | 14:58 |
| elfy | not even named yet - so that's a bit of an issue for the wibbly images :p | 14:58 |
| drc | Isn't kinda late to be choosing a name? I thought they usually announced that a release ahead of schedule? | 14:59 |
| elfy | mmm | 15:00 |
| drc | Maybe the rumor about negotiating for Wascally Wabit is trye.... | 15:00 |
| elfy | well I don't know, and I've not heard anything | 15:01 |
| elfy | and if I was getting anywhere close to divulging things I shouldn't - pleia2 would !ops me :D | 15:01 |
| drc | Just "rumblings" on a couple of lists/channels | 15:01 |
| elfy | yea for sure | 15:01 |
| elfy | I'm not loud enough with the Wibbly Whinocewos | 15:02 |
| elfy | apart from here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=427 | 15:02 |
| Guest96557 | hi, im sorry to interrupt the quietness here, im wondering why im not able to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 through update-manager -d since i thought a "devel" update is always possible | 15:34 |
| holstein | OvenWerks: thats a good poing | 15:51 |
| holstein | point* | 15:51 |
| elfy | wasn't sure if it was a pong or a point for a moment then :D | 15:51 |
| OvenWerks | perhaps wrong channel? :) | 16:00 |
| holstein | for me? that was an out dated response.. | 16:04 |
| holstein | 00:31 < OvenWerks> holstein: check if he used the start disk maker in the system menu and is running live. The problem went away when I used dd | 16:04 |
| holstein | biggest issue there was language barrier.. | 16:05 |
| OvenWerks | holstein: Ahh. It is just that I had the same problem a few days ago. | 16:05 |
| * dkessel happily edits the wibbly QA pad | 16:09 | |
| Unit193 | elfy: FWIW, encryption in Xubuntu vivid worked except when trying to unlock with plymouth-theme-xubuntu-logo. | 16:45 |
| knome | elfy, hullo | 16:49 |
| dkessel | uh-oh: Work with the tracker developers to get out more meaningful data: TODO | 17:07 |
| * dkessel hides :) | 17:07 | |
| knome | dkessel, yes, i'm looking at you | 17:22 |
| knome | dinner soon | 17:23 |
| dkessel | knome: heh - yeah, let's see what can be done about the tracker needs the other day | 17:23 |
| dkessel | woooo ping notifications are working again for quassel in xubuntu 15.04 =D | 18:49 |
| Unit193 | dkessel: Oh no, now you'll know when we're talking to you. | 18:50 |
| dkessel | ...if i am on the laptop, and not on the phone, where the quassel connection is really unstable ;) | 18:55 |
| dkessel | Unit193: yes, be careful when mentioning my name now :) | 18:56 |
| knome | dkessel dkessel dkessel dkessel | 20:01 |
| knome | oops | 20:01 |
| Unit193 | Wait, why are we pinging dkessel? | 20:01 |
| elfy | yay pinging dkessel works now I see | 20:01 |
| elfy | Unit193: it's sunday in dkessel world - reason enough | 20:02 |
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