[01:14] knome: got an email request for a wallpaper-sized monkey artwork from http://xubuntu.org/news/15-04-release/ [02:16] Unit193: I am very happy with Xubuntu-core. I am thinking Studio could very easily be based on it directly. The default theme and look/feel just work. Our menu stub just works too. I should probably take a look at the xubuntu release as well and see if we would need to take anything out at all. That may work even better. [02:17] OvenWerks: Great! Glad to hear it. 64bit should be fine too now. [02:18] Yes 64bit is what I am playing with in fact. [02:23] Great! Glad it's confirmed, and thanks a bunch for pointing it out. [02:23] No problem. [03:03] hello? [03:03] o/ [03:04] hudsonkem: maybe you are looking for the support channel? [03:04] yes [03:04] hudsonkem: cool.. thats #xubuntu for xubuntu.. and #ubuntu as well, for general ubuntu support [03:05] ok thx, so [03:06] I have a cursor inssue, invisible cursor sometimes after reboot, im right to type here? [03:06] hudsonkem: well, as i said, the support channel is #xubuntu [03:07] got it sorry. thx for all bye [03:07] hudsonkem: you can still right click and get a menu? its literally invisible? [03:07] yes [03:08] work but I can't see. and I must try 3 times reboot to this work [03:08] i suppose, i would look into my gpu driver, after simply updating the machine.. then, i would look at my user.. it would be helpful to note if the cursor is "invisible" at the login screen, or no.. [03:09] yes reboot with invisible cursor [03:10] hudsonkem: please apply all updates [03:10] "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [03:10] reboot, and *note* if the cursor is there at the login screen, and as other users [03:11] see if the issue is isolated to just the one user account [03:11] I found other user with this inssue, so not alone me, [03:12] hudsonkem: users on *your* machine, friend [03:12] *not* just randomly someone else.. please try the guest user, and/or another user *account* [03:14] well, other users around the world, in ubuntu report [03:14] them said about org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xcursor [03:14] hudsonkem: sure, im not denying other users, as in, people, have that issue [03:14] hudsonkem: what im asking you to do has *nothing* to do with other people. im talking about user accounts on your machine [03:14] not other users, as in, people [03:15] please try as another user. the *guest* user.. login to your machine in the guest account, and test that the cursor works [03:15] but, the trouble begin after lightdm start, when display GUI cursor is invisible [03:16] hudsonkem: so, as i ask, do you have a cursor in the guest account? yes or no? [03:16] no [03:16] hudsonkem: ok.. are you up to date with upgrades, and rebooted into the most current kernel? yes? no? [03:17] yes [03:17] hudsonkem: what GPU driver are you using? with what GPU hardware? [03:18] just onboard or generic card drive [03:19] hudsonkem: sure.. i'll wait as you see what GPU you have, and driver, and report to me for further voluntaryy support, in the #xubuntu support channel.. thanks [03:20] can you tell me commads to see that because I aways forgot that. [03:21] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1795372 [03:24] thx, so it took a long text, may I put in text file and upload it? [03:25] !paste [03:25] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:25] hudsonkem: also, please use #xubuntu for support.. thanks [03:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/10893230/ [03:30] hudsonkem: ok.. now, please, again, use the #xubuntu channel [03:30] hudsonkem: go there *now*, ok? do you understand? yes? no? [03:31] yes, I am just here because You are asking me so I have to answer [03:31] thank you bye [03:32] hudsonkem: just /join #xubuntu [04:31] holstein: check if he used the start disk maker in the system menu and is running live. The problem went away when I used dd to put the image on the USB drive. It was only a problem when running live. [04:32] * OvenWerks guess he is a bit late... [06:11] Unit193: boot with image, wait for it to autologin - fruitlessly, it wanted username/password [06:13] could be dodgy download [06:27] and apparently so, works in vbox - still issues in kvm [07:53] and we has 3 winners :) [07:54] new person showed up during final testing - p-brada - they win that [07:54] for the whole cycle - removing those previous recipients - dkessel :) [07:55] and for the whole cycle - in team - jjfrv8 reported 138 for us - thanks jjfrv8 :) [08:14] knome: when you have 5 minutes - a bit of help with LP bug search-fu ... [08:45] yay, thank you guys :) [08:45] thank you ;) [08:46] not sure if you saw this or the mail first, but you have one of those too :D [08:47] saw the mail first :) tbh i wouldn't have thought i would get stickers, as i have only had time to help in the beginning of the cycle. but i it still was enough number-wise :) [08:56] well - in this situation, it is numbers that count :) [10:57] bluesabre: can we close bug 1441460 ? the actual problem can be resolved by changing one light-locker option [10:57] bug 1441460 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "[xubuntu] Failing to sleep after inactivity - power manager error?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1441460 [10:57] I don't think that “When the screensaver is deactivated” should be the default, or should it? [11:01] brainwash: It sounds like a race condition [11:02] The new default we have is that light-locker doesn't autolock by default [11:02] unless suspending [11:02] the problem is that locking the screen makes the user session inactive and xfpm is not able to auto suspend the system then [11:03] it's the vt switching drawback [11:03] right, but sometimes the suspend signal gets through before the vt switch actually occurs, and thats (I think) the race condition [11:05] uhm [11:06] you mean lock on suspend [11:06] the report is about auto suspending while the lock screen is active [11:07] oh, that one [11:07] so, lock screen after 10min.. suspend system after 15min [11:07] I misunderstood the report [11:07] then yeah, you're right [11:08] this use case is problematic, so what can be done other then telling the user to change the light-locker option? [11:09] which does not solve the problem completely [11:09] once you switch to the lock screen, then xfpm has not power anymore :) [11:09] nothing, we do not currently have a solution for that scenario [11:10] unless the answer is, use a different lock screen to satisfy your needs [11:10] we can only hope that light-locker without the vt switch will be ready for 16.04 [11:10] yeah [11:45] bluesabre: did you read bug 1446247 ? [11:45] bug 1446247 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 15.04 - No power indicator in applet indicator" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1446247 [11:46] Unit193 has not commented yet (ninja subscribed him) [11:46] I don't know what the status or process is on this issue [12:52] I commented outside of the bug. [12:54] what is the status? [12:54] is someone taking care of this bug? [13:50] a rather blunt 12.04 is EOL announcement is drafted [14:35] pleia2: thinking about people like the mexican news report we have on x.org - do we know if there's much of an appetite out there for OEM installs? [14:36] now that Vivid is old hat - I'm looking to Wibbly now ;) [14:36] elfy: I've heard nothing wrt OEM installs, and they take a massive amount of work (automated testing, etc) [14:36] yea [14:37] but we 'could' do optional OEM tests - if it even works [14:37] Mate manage [14:38] just thinking of things here is all [14:42] I honestly don't know much about it, have just heard some of the rumblings from canonical about all the work put in to work with manufacturers [14:43] pleia2: Rumblings or grumblings? [14:43] pleia2: yea I have seen the same type of thing, mostly davmor2 [14:44] just wondering if there is a 'market' for it generally [14:45] I'd rather mix it up in 15.10 and need to mail list more frequently this cycle, try and get more of a constant flow [14:45] anyway - as I said - just thinking :) [14:45] you go back to looking forward to Sunday :D [14:48] drc: yes ;) [14:48] elfy: short of an OEM approaching us (they haven't), I'm inclined to say it's not a good investment of our time [14:49] but yay for ideas [14:50] but the guy installing in a bunch of places in Mexico might have like to know it was possible [14:50] that was the germ of the idea : [14:50] ) [14:50] blaming you :D [14:52] hehe [14:53] always blame the mouthpiece :) [14:53] drc: of course - I thought you were older than me and would know :D [14:57] OK, so where's the 15.10-omega iso? [14:58] currently it is still called 15.04-arch.iso :) [14:58] not even named yet - so that's a bit of an issue for the wibbly images :p [14:59] Isn't kinda late to be choosing a name? I thought they usually announced that a release ahead of schedule? [15:00] mmm [15:00] Maybe the rumor about negotiating for Wascally Wabit is trye.... [15:01] well I don't know, and I've not heard anything [15:01] and if I was getting anywhere close to divulging things I shouldn't - pleia2 would !ops me :D [15:01] Just "rumblings" on a couple of lists/channels [15:01] yea for sure [15:02] I'm not loud enough with the Wibbly Whinocewos [15:02] apart from here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=427 [15:34] hi, im sorry to interrupt the quietness here, im wondering why im not able to upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04 through update-manager -d since i thought a "devel" update is always possible [15:51] OvenWerks: thats a good poing [15:51] point* [15:51] wasn't sure if it was a pong or a point for a moment then :D [16:00] perhaps wrong channel? :) [16:04] for me? that was an out dated response.. [16:04] 00:31 < OvenWerks> holstein: check if he used the start disk maker in the system menu and is running live. The problem went away when I used dd [16:05] biggest issue there was language barrier.. [16:05] holstein: Ahh. It is just that I had the same problem a few days ago. [16:09] * dkessel happily edits the wibbly QA pad [16:45] elfy: FWIW, encryption in Xubuntu vivid worked except when trying to unlock with plymouth-theme-xubuntu-logo. [16:49] elfy, hullo [17:07] uh-oh: Work with the tracker developers to get out more meaningful data: TODO [17:07] * dkessel hides :) [17:22] dkessel, yes, i'm looking at you [17:23] dinner soon [17:23] knome: heh - yeah, let's see what can be done about the tracker needs the other day [18:49] woooo ping notifications are working again for quassel in xubuntu 15.04 =D [18:50] dkessel: Oh no, now you'll know when we're talking to you. [18:55] ...if i am on the laptop, and not on the phone, where the quassel connection is really unstable ;) [18:56] Unit193: yes, be careful when mentioning my name now :) [20:01] dkessel dkessel dkessel dkessel [20:01] oops [20:01] Wait, why are we pinging dkessel? [20:01] yay pinging dkessel works now I see [20:02] Unit193: it's sunday in dkessel world - reason enough