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pkulasstoocot : I will test it out00:00
pkulasbrb00:02
stoocotto be precise: 3 different default levels for 3 supply scenarios00:03
pkulasstoocot : Thanks, it works00:07
stoocotspoko :)00:07
darthanubisralgozino: that was fixed a month ago?00:07
darthanubiswhere is it?00:07
pkulasany idea how to start new session when i login ? After I restart system, it opens all apps running before shutdown00:08
ralgozinodarthanubis: I have no clue00:10
darthanubis:(00:11
stoocotpkulas: sottsystemsettings>00:11
stoocotpkulas: soor]]00:11
stoocotdark room mistake ;)00:11
stoocotsystemsettings>start/stop>desktop session>login>start with empty session (translated on-the-fly) don't know english labels00:13
pkulasthanks00:14
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SirSeanhello01:03
SirSeanAnyone kn ow how to change the animation speed in Kubuntu 15.04? It seems like it is missing01:04
ahoneybunSirSean: for the wallpaper?01:05
SirSeanno just the desktop effects in general01:06
SirSeanahoneybun: No, Just the desktop effects in general.01:07
ahoneybunSirSean: let me check on my install01:07
ahoneybunany effect in general?01:09
SirSeanall of them01:10
SirSeanthere used to be the global thing in KDE 401:10
ahoneybunmight still be a wip01:12
* ahoneybun can't find the keys for cube animation as well01:12
SirSeanwip?01:12
SirSeanoh01:12
SirSeanwork in progress01:12
ahoneybunyaea01:13
ahoneybunsome features might be missing01:13
SirSeanI still think that KDE 5 has that feature... just not Kubuntu?01:13
SirSeanhmmm01:13
SirSeanUNINSTALL01:13
ahoneybunKubuntu is vanilla KDE01:14
JMichaelXwith onboard intel graphics, and the i915 driver, i have no desktop effects at all under OpenGL01:14
SirSeanI used KDE in Arch Linux and it had it01:14
SirSeanKDE 5 that is01:15
SirSeanI miss the glory days of KDE 3.501:16
SirSeannew topic01:16
SirSeanKDE 3.XX > (KDE 4.XX = KDE 5.xx)01:18
SirSeanthat's the facf jakc01:18
SirSeanthanks for the help01:18
SirSeansee ya01:18
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rooly#ubuntu is being completely unhelpful, does anybody know why pci-stub refuses to load before the radeon module?02:12
roolythis is only a thing since the 15.04 update02:12
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N3X15Any ideas on how to get the "breeze dark" theme to skin the taskbar?  Selecting that in System Settings > Desktop Theme just makes it turn white-on-white, even after fiddling around in the Colors menu.  I'm on 15.04.03:33
Brendan__Is this a place where I can get quick help with an issue?04:04
lolmaus_How do i prevent Vivid from locking my computer due to inactivity? I've disabled everything under Power Management but it still locks when i watch Youtube. :(04:57
imatefxlolmaus_: System Settings -> Desktop Behaviour ->  Screen Locking04:58
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hyper_chso, opened a bug report about my locale settings troubles05:55
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wldcordeiroSo it seems that notify-osd will get stuck and sometimes if you lock or suspend your computer the login screen shown is the fallback and not the kde/sddm one.06:22
wldcordeiroThis is on 15.0406:22
EtriaphI haven't run into that yet.06:28
Etriaphsddm doesn't always behave though, that's for sure.06:29
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alvinhyper_ch: Can you give the bug number? I'v struggled with locales too. Eventually got them 'acceptable' by using only /etc/defaults/locale08:02
alvinIs there still a netbook mode in plasma5?08:02
PhilippePalvin: I checked yesterday and the netbook package is still kde4 so so far , there's no netbook mode in plasma508:08
alvinCould that not be intentional? I was under the impression that plasma5 would somehow incorporate the netbook mode, but I don't know whether it is finished, or where I can find it08:09
PhilippePNo idea!08:12
ejayGood morning. Is it possible to install KDE4 dev libs in Kubuntu 15.04?08:20
luc4Hello! Anyone who can help? My system is not starting KDE anymore. When the login screen is supposed to be shown a black screen appears. The only thing I can see in xorg logs is https://paste.kde.org/pwx4lwhjy.08:21
ejayluc4, did you try to remove xorg.conf file?08:23
slava__Добрый день! В Kubuntu 15.04 Plasma 5.2.2 нет иконок скайпа, dropbox и т..д   в системном лотке. Есть простое решение?08:24
luc4ejay: no, I can try.08:25
luc4ejay: am I supposed to use sddm or lightdm?08:25
ejayluc4, does not matter. just get rid of xorg.conf.08:25
PhilippePluc4: if nvidia (but id does not seem to be the case), go to another tty and install nvidia-34008:25
luc4ejay: nothing changed08:25
luc4ejay: a new one was created automatically08:26
luc4PhilippeP: yes, nvidia08:26
ejayluc4, is it intel gpu?08:26
luc4ejay: nvidia08:26
luc4and yes, I think something nvidia related was just installed before this issue08:26
luc4PhilippeP: should I uninstall something else nvidia-related?08:27
ejayluc4, hmmm... I'm using intel and AFAIK xorg is detecting your hardware and settings and xorg is not needed anymore. At least in my case xorg.conf is always cousing problems.08:27
PhilippePluc4: then you should try to install nvidia-340 driver08:29
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luc4PhilippeP: but is that the closed source nvidia driver?08:29
luc4PhilippeP: I’ve always been using nouveau08:29
PhilippePluc4: yes ... i do not know if Nouveau does not have problems with plasma5 ...08:30
luc4PhilippeP: can I switch to nouveau from command line? I think that may be the problem. Plasma 5 was ok with nouveau I think.08:31
luc4PhilippeP: I think you got the problem https://paste.kde.org/prmqlsyau08:32
PhilippePluc4: I've always used closed source driver so far ... so no idea ...08:32
slava__Добрый день! В Kubuntu 15.04 Plasma 5.2.2 нет иконок скайпа, dropbox и т..д   в системном лотке. Есть простое решение?08:34
hyper_chslava__: you'll have more luck with English or try #kubuntu-ru08:38
ronaldHi, where is the best place to report bugs on kubuntu 15.04? I updated last week and have a few annoying issues related to my dual screen setup (laptop with second external display).08:40
jubo2slava__: Добрии день. Было бы возмозно вапросит по англискии?08:40
slava__Ок!08:40
slava__Good day ! In Kubuntu 15.04 Plasma 5.2.2 no icons Skype , dropbox and t..d in the system tray . There is a simple solution?08:41
ronaldAll my icons went missing on upgrade also, but you can easily drag them there from the menu ... :)08:42
ronaldjust search for your program an drag the icon in your taskbar. You will need to unlock it first though, oterwise icons will not stick08:43
slava__Just tried - did not work ......08:44
slava__СПАСИБО!!!!08:46
slava__work!08:46
slava__Thank you very much !08:47
jubo2slava__: позалста.. though I didn't do much08:48
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luc4PhilippeP: it seems I am able to make KDE run now. Something is still not ok but it is a start. Thanks.08:55
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PhilippePluc4: you're welcome08:56
luc4Anyone who knows any possible reason why sddm may not start my login screen at boot?08:58
luc4If I switch VT, login and then startx KDE starts. But not automatically...08:59
jubo2Hi.09:01
jubo2I cannot activate WiFi, at all09:02
jubo2trying to click the checkbox the checkbox remains gray09:02
jubo2is it some firmware thing again. I chose the install non-free in the installation proces09:02
jubo2pls help, need wifi09:02
jubo2so I need to know what kind of WiFi chip I have and use that to 'sudo apt install the_firmware' someone tells me in another channel09:04
soeejubo2: so you can not interact with this checkbox ?09:04
jubo2soee: I cannot. It stays gray. Airplane state checkbox just next to it works09:05
pkulasjubo2 : Try open Drive Manager, maybe there your wifi driver will show to install09:06
pkulasDriver Manager*09:06
PhilippePjubo2: lspci should help you find chip , or lshw09:07
jubo2PhilippeP: I'm not seeing a Wifi line in 'lspci' output09:09
jubo2That or it is that '02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (rev 35) '09:10
jubo2coz the Ethernet controller is another line09:10
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jubo2pkulas: drive manager did not list anything related to Wifi09:11
jubo2*driver09:11
jubo2I'm stuck with no wifi :(09:15
pkulasjubo2 : pastebin output from rfkill list all09:15
jubo2maybe I have accidentally moved the slider that controls whether any radio is on09:16
jubo2yep09:17
jubo2now it works that I put the thing in right position. Sry for not realizing to check this09:18
anavarrehi there - with kubuntu 15.04 I see the 'attach as tab' feature is gone. Does anybody know if it's permanent or simply part of things that need to be polished/ported with Plasma 5?09:27
madetianavarre: https://community.kde.org/Plasma/5.3_Errata ,does this help?09:30
anavarremadeti: unfortunately it doesn't but I didn't know about that page and this would have been a good place to track this09:31
anavarremadeti: unless 'window tabs' is what I'm referring to?09:32
madetianavarre: I think that is it09:33
anavarremadeti: aha, in that case it's me calling it differently and it does help then - thank you09:34
madeti:)09:34
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pkulasIs Plasma Media Center is backports ppa?09:44
pkulasin*09:44
luc4Hello! I had troubles with graphics driver on kubuntu 15.04 and I got in a situation where the login screen is not shown at boot. I just see a couple of lines in the shell but the login screen does not appear. If I startx from another VT my KDE session starts. Anyone with an idea of what I could do to make the login screen start at boot?09:59
yossarianukcan't decide for my work desktop.... Debian 8 or Kubuntu 15.04....10:05
yossarianukI have 15.04 @ home, One issue is no X2go with plasma5 (yet)...10:05
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qdata15.04 should have not been released to satisfy some arbitrary time schedule; it is just not ready to be called release imho10:17
qdataI tried an install last night and within 20 mins it was a crash box so I dumped it10:17
qdatanot going to waste any time on it meself10:18
s_20yossarianuk: well, if you stick with debian stable you won't see plasma 5 within the next 2 years ;)10:23
BluesKajHey all10:23
yossarianuks_20: been running kubuntu 15.04 for about 4 weeks @ home  - it is more for work I am undecided ...10:23
s_20at home i use debian unstable (for nearly 10 years now) though, hardly ever had any serious issues, only when there were bigger transitions (like the infamous debian c++ abi transition...)10:23
s_20at work it's ubuntu, because i can't really have any serious issues, if it can be avoided10:24
yossarianukI meant running debian stable @ work  - Deb 8 is fairly up to date (newer than Ubuntu LTS.)10:25
BluesKajplasma 5.3 is mucking up my desktop backgtound, guess I should have stuck with plasma 5.210:25
yossarianukplasma5.3 however fixes the login screen (with nvidia)10:25
BluesKajI have nvidia and never had any login scrn probs10:26
yossarianukBluesKaj: i.e the login screen is stretched on both screens10:26
yossarianuk(this is with nvidia binary driver)10:27
BluesKajyossarianuk, not here , I use  a large monitor/TV since this pc is my media /HT server10:28
BluesKajyeah the 340 driver here10:28
lordievaderGoede middag.10:29
lordievaderErr that should be 'good afternoon'...10:29
yossarianuk346 driver here - 2 screen (different type on monitor)10:29
BluesKajaltho the apps are working fine size-wise , 1/4 of the backround is cut off on the left side of the screen10:30
lordievaderBluesKaj: After a change of resolution?10:31
BluesKajno changes10:31
lordievaderHmm, I had that after changing resolution. Fix for me was setting the position option different.10:32
virtual_Wow I installed the new Kubuntu 15:04 with kde5, I am excited, really beautiful.10:39
virtual_Fast and responsive, I'm very happy.10:39
virtual_Has anyone tried it?10:39
virtual_what do you think?10:39
lordievadervirtual_: It's quite a change, isn't?10:40
virtual_what do you mean?10:41
lordievaderPlasma4 vs Plasma5 ;)10:42
tron71Hi, I've just installed Kubuntu 15.04 64bit and also skype from the canonical repository10:42
tron71but I get the infamous error, when I launch it10:42
tron71skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:42
tron71however, that library seems to be installed10:42
tron71I never experienced problems with skype with previous versions of kubuntu...10:42
tron71any clue?10:43
patrick_Kubuntu 15.04 with two monitors, its working but the second screen flickers during startup and whenever I make a change in system settings.10:43
pkulastron71 : install skype from .deb file from their website10:43
tron71done that as well... it's the same version, and I get the same problem...10:44
pkulasstrange, for myself it works, maybe that repository with skype broken that10:44
tron71do you have a 64bit system?10:45
patrick_Kubuntu 15.04 with two monitors, its working but the second screen flickers during startup and whenever I make a change in system settings.10:50
tron71pkulas: I found the problem10:52
tron71it was related to nvidia10:52
tron71http://askubuntu.com/questions/257897/error-loading-libgl-so-110:52
tron71this has solved the issue10:52
tron71:)10:52
pkulastron71 : :)11:04
tron71I installed bumblebee right after the installation, and then I installed skype11:06
tron71probably that was the original problem...11:06
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everyUserOwnLanghello guys ... i am using KUBUNTU 15.04 and its amazing! Is it possible to give different users KDE in their language, how do you do this correctly? i didnt find good answers on the net yet?11:23
hateballeveryUserOwnLang: You need to install the l10n packages needed, then every user can choose their prefered language11:26
alvineveryUserOwnLang: I don't know by heart, but those users have to set their own locales. In their shell. Maybe it's possible for them to set it in KDE's "region and language settins"11:26
hateballYou could even choose at the login manager, but the packages need to be installed by root11:27
everyUserOwnLanghow to configure th elogin manager to offer this oportunity?11:30
alvinI wanted to look it up, but ssdm comes without man pages11:46
alvinsddm I mean11:47
BluesKajalvin, what is it that you want to configure on sddm, don't think there's much to configure11:55
alvinNot me. everyUserOwnLang wanted to see the language selector. I remember that feature from KDM, but wouldn't know how to configure it on sddm.11:56
alvinBut since you're asking. How to remove the battery status from sddm :-)11:56
alvinIt says 0% battery remaining, which is pretty normal on a desktop without battery.11:57
BluesKajwhat battery status ...sddm is merely the login display manager , that's all11:58
BluesKajthe desktop environment and kwin is resonsible for the what appears on your screen after logging in11:59
BluesKajplasma 511:59
ZerkalerkaHey guys, fresh install, trying to dpkg the dropbox.deb file.. tells me I need to install python-gtk2 package, when trying to install that package it tells me to install python-cairo, which then python-cairo tells me it needs python-gtk2.. so I am stuck in a loop!12:04
lordievaderZerkalerka: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install python-gtk2"?12:05
Zerkalerkalordievader: yes one moment12:06
BluesKajZerkalerka, are you using this method http://www.nixternal.com/kde-and-dropbox/12:07
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ZerkalerkaAh nevermind I fixed my own problem.. just ran apt-get -f install alone and it auto installed python dependencies along with dropbox12:08
Zerkalerkaty for quick replies though.12:08
PhilippePZerkalerka: in such a case you should try to put all the dependencies in one line , they should resolved themselves12:13
ZerkalerkaPhilippeP: makes sense, ty for the tip.12:13
alvinBluesKaj: SDDM shows the battery status next to my name. Is that not the case on your pc?12:13
alvinjust below the clock12:13
BluesKajalvin that's not sddm, that's the plasma 5/KF5 desktop widget panel, but yes I have the battery indicator on my laptop12:18
alvinBluesKaj: I'm talking about the login screen. Can you put widgets on it?12:23
lordievaderalvin: Screenshots say a thousand words.... ;)12:24
alvinI'm not talking about the battery indicator in the systray, but about the one you see at boot. Before logging in12:24
alvinWell... it's not a virtual machine. I should take a picture then.12:24
BluesKajalvin, I don't have a battery indicator since I'm on a pc, at least if there is one it's so small I can't see it on this TV/monitor,m unfortunately12:26
BluesKajat th elogin12:26
alvinlordievader, BluesKaj: but I do: https://owncloud.alvin.be/index.php/s/YfT72UZQxmrNEqn see? It's a desktop and there's no battery. (I see I have to fix the German language too. I'm from Belgium. There are a few German speaking people, but I've never met one. It's in a small corner of the country. I have no idea why KDE uses it as default.)12:28
jubo2Kubuntu15 loading freezes after entering credentials to the login screen.. The Kubuntu logo and a frozen progress bar are as far as I can get with that Kubuntu12:28
jubo2choosing "failsafe" instead of "plasma" just keeps on throwing me again and again to the login screen12:29
jubo2there must be some log I can check for why it freezes when loading the GUI12:30
PhilippePjubo2: try .xsession_error in your home12:32
jubo2PhilippeP: http://pastebin.com/HxCgD6ip12:34
ObyoneHello folks. Hope your doing fine. I have a qustion, i wonder if one of you would be so kind as to assist me with. I have done exstensive custimisation of my deaktop and installed many programs i'm using to study with. I would like to back it on live usb if i can, or is their a formal kubuntu way of achiving a good back up disk, to quickly get back to study if failure should occure ?12:41
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aruncehi... bad move about shipping plasma 5.2 with 15.04.12:47
ObyoneThe instructions for making a live cd are over my head and the custimisation programs mentioned on the main help page do not work.12:48
derTyphi guys13:31
derTypive just upgraded to 15.04 and iam wondering how to bind the windows key to the menu again because ksuperkey doesnt seem to work with plasma513:32
pkulasderType : Alt+f1 is default for plasma513:38
pkulasgo Settings - Global Keyboard Shortcuts and choose plasmashell and there you can change it13:39
pkulasBut may be hard to change it just for windows key13:39
mparilloObyone: I believe remastersys is unmaintained. I found this list, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_remastering_software#Linux_utilities but I have never heard of anybody endorsing any of them as 'just works'13:55
jubo2Kubuntu stops loading at Kubuntu symbol splash right after log-in14:00
jubo2I am able to access the log files from this machine14:00
jubo2someone suggested looking at .xsession-errors - here it is - http://pastebin.com/HxCgD6ip14:01
ejayIs it possible to set Compact view in Dolphin as a default view?14:10
Obyone<mparillo> I have tried all of them . I do not think there is any working ones. None of them work on 14.04 LTS , let alone newer releases.14:11
BluesKajejay, seems to hold if you set adjust view properties in dolphin>view, choose your mode then your folder prefernces like all folders or current , whichever you choose should hold14:21
ejayBluesKaj, got it. Thanks.14:24
jubo2Kubuntu15 stopped working. Halp?14:25
jubo2It was such a nice system till it stopped working14:25
ejayjubo2, any details?14:28
ObyoneThis is from help page, helped decoded by wikipedia and edited by me to better understand it. >   initramfs is a virtual filesystem. It is a compressed cpio.cpio is an archive format. cpio is a file archiver utility and its associated file format. cpio means, copy in and out.  Standard input and standard output.It contains a minimal shell, kernel modules necessary for mounting the root filesystemand a number of scripts that perform some tasks at boot time14:29
Obyone. The most important of these scripts is a script called init. located at the root of the initramfs. The boot loader loads both the kernel and the initramfs into memory. The boot loader loads both the kernel and the initramfs into memory.14:29
ObyoneThen starts the kernel. The kernel then unpacks the initramfs .  Then mounts it as initial root filesystem. Then looks for the init program within the initial filesystem. Executes it and hands the boot process over to it.The init scirpt is responsible for finding the real root filesystem, mounting it and any special preperation required at boot time. So any special operations required for booting the system from a live media can be coded into the14:29
Obyoneinitramfs boot scripts.14:29
Obyone    14:29
jubo2ejay: I dunno.. Stops loading in the Kubuntu loading splash right after login14:29
jubo2I'm kinda clueless as to what to do about it14:30
jubo2but I can access the filesystem from this old Kubuntu1414:30
ejayjubo2, delete .kde folder14:31
jubo2ejay: you sure about this?14:31
ejayjubo2, yes. this folder contains your settings14:32
jubo2ok. and then try to reboot the Kubnut15 ?14:32
ejayjubo2, remove .kde from your home dir14:32
ejayjubo2, yes14:32
ObyoneSo i guess to to achive a live disk thats anything but the one given , i have to learn how ubuntu works from near the ground up and including grub. Am i correct in thinking this ?14:34
jubo2here goes14:34
jubo2ejay: nope. didn't help14:41
jubo2I renamed .kde to old-dot-kde14:41
jubo2I gather that should have same effect as deleting14:41
ejayjubo2, so gimme more details. Did you install anything fancy lately? Do you have other enviroments installed right now?14:42
ejaydid you upgraded from 14?14:43
ejaykubuntu14*14:43
jubo2ejay: nothing experimental. Just made a clean Kubuntu15 install yesterday and today14:43
jubo2today it stopped working14:43
jubo2ejay: any error logs I should check ?14:44
ejayjubo2, what about drivers? what gpu driver you've got?14:44
jubo2ejay: I don't know.. Intel something14:44
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ejayjubo2, remove xorg.conf and if this is not it then you need to get to console and try to start kde from console and look for some info there.14:46
jubo2ejay: where is xorg.conf situated ?14:47
ejayjubo2, /etc/X1114:48
jubo2ejay: can't see it14:49
ejayjubo2, that's good14:50
ejayjubo2, so you can try now with terminal - start kubuntu in terminal mode and type startx14:51
jubo2ok14:51
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jubo2ejay: I tried to 'startx' from the root shell15:03
jubo2didn't work15:03
ejayjubo2, didnt work - nothing happened or there is no such command? ;)15:03
jubo2it started to do something but couldn't finish15:04
ejayjubo2, ok, then show me your x logs. you can find it in /var/log/Xorg.0.log15:06
ejaypaste it on some pastebin15:06
uperat0rHi guys, after installing Kubuntu 15.04 , it refuses to boot up and hangs at the "kubuntu" loading screen15:10
uperat0rI think this may come due to a failed upgrade, my laptop wasn't connected to a power source and out of battery15:10
uperat0ri previously had kubuntu 14.10 installed, how do I fix it?15:10
BluesKajuperat0r, then try installing again with the power supply plygged in, the ubiquity installer will deliberately not open if you don't have PSU  plugged into the laptop15:12
ejayuperat0r, if you updated from kubuntu14 and something happened while updateing (laptop got suspended or turned off) then prolly your installation is f up.15:12
uperat0rYes I think so too, so how can I fix that?15:13
uperat0rI tried to get into the grub2 menu by holding shift, but that doesn't work15:14
uperat0rI can enter the grub command-line when I press esc while booting15:14
uperat0rI can also get into another tty when i press ctrl+alt+ f1/f2  but it only shows me a blinking cursor and i cannot type.15:14
uperat0rHow can i install it again if i cannot boot?15:15
ejayuperat0r, you probably need to make fresh installation. I killed my OS by using muon (it crashed while updating to 15.04) and it was unrecoverable.15:15
uperat0rI have some files on there that I really need..15:15
ejayuperat0r, that's why making /home partition is a good idea.15:16
uperat0rah...15:16
ejayuperat0r, but you can find those files while useing livecd and copy them on pendrive or smth15:16
uperat0rI can get into the grub command line...15:20
uperat0rhow can i load an older kernel version from there?15:20
uperat0rYeah I defintely fked up my installation15:23
uperat0rnouvea E, that's what the tty console showed before the system rebooted itself.15:25
uperat0rsome error about Nouvea E15:25
ejayuperat0r, AFAIK it's nvidia driver15:26
ejayif you can get to console try to purge this and remove xorg.conf15:27
uperat0ri can't get to command-line15:29
ObyoneIs the documentation shitting me . What do i look like a rocket scientist : export WORK=~/work ; export CD=~/cd; export FORMAT=squashfs; export FS_DIR=casper; sudo mkdir -p ${CD}/{${FS_DIR},boot/grub} ${WORK}/rootfs.  # And has not even warmed up yet, the next commands are 10 times more complex then that.15:33
uperat0rI'm in the livecd now, backing up important files. Is there a way I can recover the old version of Kubuntu? (14.10)15:36
Neuh2Oh ... Oon15:42
Neuh2I have forget to quit irc on my phone xD15:43
BluesKajuperat0r, probly not if the internet upgrade was interrupted15:43
uperat0rI've downloaded all the files from the internet, it was during the installation15:43
typhoon_2099Hey guys, any idea why I can't get SDDM working? I checked systemctl and it's active but when I only ever see the "starting version 219" message.15:43
BluesKajuperat0r, do you have / and /home partitions?15:43
uperat0rI have one partition for all files.. I didn't know it was common knowledge to have a seperate /home partition15:44
CharlieTheCabbieHi guys.  I hope someone is able to help me out, I just upgraded to 15.04 and it's falling apart like a flatpacked motorcycle. :(15:46
CharlieTheCabbieThe Plasma desktop will not start at all, I can log in but the screen simply remains black with no panels or borders.  The only way I can start any form of desktop is to switch to xfce and login that way.15:46
BluesKajuperat0r, it's good practice to have separate / and /home partitions , then you can reinstall to / and just reset the mountpoint for /home in thje partioner and all your data and config files will be saved, you just need to reinstall non default apps15:46
BluesKajno formatting of the /home partition of course15:47
uperat0rOh well I copied my /home/ directory to a flash drive, kind of the same procedure15:48
BluesKajCharlieTheCabbie, nvidia graphics ?15:48
CharlieTheCabbieyep15:48
CharlieTheCabbiehow did you guess? :)15:48
uperat0rI had some issue that whenever I was using my mousepad instead of mouse, it would crash the desktop....15:48
uperat0rthat's why the update failed..15:48
uperat0rA known bug in Kubuntu that was never fixed.. I'm switching to Ubuntu haha15:49
BluesKajCharlieTheCabbie, ok drop to a tty/vt with ctl+alt+F1-F6 then install the nvidia-340 driver, but update and upgrade first with apt15:49
typhoon_2099CharlieTheCabbie: I may by in a similar situation, nvidia hybrid laptop, tried to fix the issue by removing the optimus drivers and it all fell apart. I'm back to where I started now (I think) but I still cannot gett logged in.15:49
CharlieTheCabbieI have an nvidia NV44 (GeForce 6200 Turbocache)15:50
NekoSanBonsoir !15:50
CharlieTheCabbieLet me get a terminal up15:50
BluesKajtyphoon_2099, try installing nvidia-prime with procedure I described for CharlieTheCabbie above15:51
CharlieTheCabbieOk, the nvidia-340 packages are now going in, obviously I have to restart the dm after this, right?15:55
BluesKajCharlieTheCabbie, yup15:55
typhoon_2099Okay, I''ll try 340 and see how I get on, so far I have tried 304, 346 and 349 (from xorg-edgers).15:55
CharlieTheCabbieIf I still can't get in then I'll drop back to xfce and let you know BluesKaj :)15:55
BluesKajok CharlieTheCabbie, I'll be here15:55
crazymikeI was just wondering if anyone else is having problems connecting to Kde-look.org?16:00
crazymikeHaving trouble getting new themes/backgrounds within the system16:00
CharlieTheCabbieok, the packages are done. see you in a few moments, BluesKaj...16:00
CharlieTheCabbieI hope :)16:01
BluesKajcrazymike, kde-look has been down for maintenance for 2 days16:07
crazymikeThank you BluesKaj. Just wanted to confirm as I installed KDE yesterday and was trying to look for more themes. Thanks for the info. Have a great day.16:08
BluesKajyou too crazymike:)16:08
ateehelo16:08
ObyoneHow do i echo ,code, with symbols,    "  {        , etc , in to a file ?16:14
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Guest12307I just installed 15.04, updated and now have no plasma desktop visible. I have Yakuake terminal installed and that works perfectly over a blank desktop.  Ideas appreciated.17:00
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t5un4m1hello17:05
Guest12307Hello17:05
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t5un4m1Can anyone help me out with a gui frontend for ufw in kubuntu 15.04?17:06
t5un4m1tried installing ufw-kde, but i can't find it or make heads/tails of it17:06
t5un4m1i'm familiar with gufw17:06
t5un4m1just don't want to install all the extra gnome  junk17:06
gary__Try fwbuilder?17:07
gary__fwbuilder is powerful and easy to use17:08
t5un4m1cool, thanks; just installed it.17:08
CharlieTheCabbiedang. Blueskaj has gone.  Anyone else who can help me out with plasma5 please?  I can login using an xfce desktop, but when I try to get to plasma, all I get is the login screen, then the K splash, followed with a blank screen.17:09
t5un4m1btw any first impressions of kde5? seems like it needs some updates. downloading wallpapers doesn't work. Baloo crashes17:09
t5un4m1wonder if it was a bit rushed out the door17:09
gary__KDE5 is not ready for "prime-time" in my opinion17:09
CharlieTheCabbiet5un4m1, I am having problems with it, but I wouldn't count that as a bad review, I just need to fix up a few bits.17:10
gary__Great start, but very buggy, in my opinion17:10
t5un4m1yeah; it doesn't seem anywhere near as flaky as cinnamon out of the box17:10
wldcordeiroI hate notify-osd17:11
wldcordeiroI really do17:11
wldcordeiroit's always getting stuck17:11
wldcordeirothen I have to manually kill it.17:11
t5un4m1cinnamon (on mint) needs a ton of updates to stabilize it17:11
gary__I'm glad I use "Back-In-Time" to restore 14.10 which has been exceptionally stable.17:12
t5un4m1growing pains i guess; there's no way a handful of developers can test out all the scenarios of people installing it in the wild17:12
CharlieTheCabbieSo, does anyone else have any ideas on what to do with my install please?  I did what blueskaj suggested, which was to update the nvidia kit, but it refused to run my card. I had to drop down to nvidia-304, and now that's getting killed off.17:12
CharlieTheCabbienvidia-prime is getting stopped17:13
gary__If I thought it would actually be put to good use, I'd donate a great sum of $$ to kde17:13
gary__I tried kde5 in beta and had to revert back to 14.10 with "back-In-Time"17:15
genii!contribute17:15
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu17:15
hyper_chanother bug reported17:15
CharlieTheCabbieHow do you know it wouldn't be put to good use?  KDE seem to have coped bloody well in the past, there will always be hiccups and burps in the system.17:16
wldcordeiroHas anyone noticed 15.04 reverting to the 'fallback' login occasionally instead of the sddm one when you lock or suspend?17:16
CharlieTheCabbieIf everything was perfect when it was created, we'd get born knowing how to drive :)17:16
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gary__$$ may very well be put into good use.  Thank you.17:17
gary__I appreciate the work of so many dedicated folks that do all they can to develope a wonderful operating system as well as all of the kernel developers.17:18
gary__Is anyone able to help me with a Lenovo T540p, new install of 15.04, nvidia, plasma seems to not be visible, but from Yakuake, I can run any program on a blank desktop.17:24
balloonssgclark, ping17:33
BeboHello, I have a problem about the "activities" on Kubuntu 15.04 64-bit with an NVIDIA driver recommended 349.0. It is impossible to create an activity, nothing happens. Can someone help me?17:37
Taggnostr2hello17:39
Taggnostr2I upgraded 14.10 to 15.04, and after logging in I get a black screen17:42
Taggnostr2after a few days of attempts, I managed to get to a point where I can get both windows and windows decorations, but the rest is missing17:42
Taggnostr2basically I login, switch to a tty, do sudo startx, then after a while I get to a desktop background, and from there I can do right click -> run command and start e.g. quassel17:44
Taggnostr2I still don't have the bottom bar, and after the login everything is still black17:44
gary__Same here.  No one answers this question17:45
acz32sudo startx?17:47
Taggnostr2yes17:47
acz32why sudo17:47
gary__That starts the x-server as root and then the desktop as the root user17:47
Taggnostr2I've been trying all the possible permutations of commands since friday, maybe it works even without17:48
acz32it's not a good idea at all to run xserver as root17:49
Taggnostr2I can restart it without sudo if it works17:49
gary__kde is running, as I use Yakuake terminal and can press F12 and launch and application from the terminal within a blank desktop.17:49
Taggnostr2brb17:50
acz32i would try running 15.04 from a livecd and see if that works17:50
Taggnostr4Without sudo it doesn't even start18:00
Taggnostr4If KDE is running, and sometimes I can even display window, what might be the problem?18:04
acz32does ubuntu have dmesg?18:10
acz32that's the first place i would look to see what's going on18:10
acz32i don't use kubuntu, sorry. but i would never run X as root and i would either check dmesg or boot from a kubuntu livecd to see if it works18:11
noaXesshey all..18:18
noaXessdoes anybody upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 with big problems?18:18
noaXessi know there are some bugs.. but are there bugs, which prevent upgrading from 14.10 to 15.04?18:19
bruceleedsHi, I just upgraded from Kubuntu 14.10 to 15.4. When I put my password into the login screen and press enter, I get either back to the login screen without kde starting, or I get a black screen. It seems this has been reported at https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=125034 but what can I do?18:25
bruceleedsI hope there is someone out there to help me... :-(18:25
N3X15Any ideas on how to get the "breeze dark" theme to skin the taskbar?  Selecting that in System Settings > Desktop Theme just makes it turn white-on-white, even after fiddling around in the Colors menu.  I'm on 15.04.18:26
bruceleedsI am not even getting to 15.4... :-(18:29
gary__14.10  to 15.04 worked perfectly on my server, except that it stalled at the end.  I power off and rebooted and all is well.  I depended upon a system status widget for temp, cpu, HDD and etc monitoring that is now not available.  At the same time, I ran the upgrade on a Lenovo T540p laptop and it wouldn't reboot.18:29
bruceleedsDid you upgrade from 14.10 or did you raw install?18:29
N3X15Upgrade, but I removed the .kde and .config directories.18:30
N3X15So theoretically a clean start.18:30
bruceleedsDo you mean ~/.kde and ~/.config ?18:30
N3X15Yes18:30
bruceleedsI removed ~/.config, but not ~/.kde18:30
bruceleedsmaybe that has to be done as well18:31
bruceleedsI am using a Lenovo T530 by the way18:31
PhilippePbruceleeds: did you have autologin set in 14.* ?18:32
RadienAnyone else experiencing a kwin crash when attempting to use Xinerama with 4 monitors across 2 graphics cards? Kubuntu 15.04. Worked fine in 14.04. Seems similar to this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34384418:33
bruceleedsYou mean that I skipped the login screen?18:33
ubottuKDE bug 343844 in multihead "Kwin crashes with Xinerama and 3 monitors" [Crash,Resolved: upstream]18:33
bruceleedsNo18:33
PhilippePok it's something else then ...18:33
bruceleedsOk, I moved ~/.kde and ~/.config to ~/.kde_old and ~/.config_old respectively18:35
bruceleedsFrom Ctrl+Alt+F1 command line18:35
bruceleedsThen I sudo reboot but I get a black screen again18:36
Taggnostr4bruceleeds, same here18:37
Taggnostr4Since Friday, haven't found a fix yet18:37
bruceleedsMaybe this is a crucial information: During my installation (not download, installation!) the installation process froze in muon (maybe because I should have excepted an EULA but couldn't).18:37
bruceleedsI "kill 14293" the hanging dpkg process 14293 and "sudo dpkg configure -a".18:38
bruceleedsAfter that I rebooted and went into rescue mode and from there to dpkg repairation18:39
bruceleedswhere I repaired twice until no packages where installed or deinstalled anymore.18:39
bruceleedsstill had the problem (obviously)18:40
Taggnostr4Try to add nomodeset to grub18:40
bruceleedsSucks. Seems like several people have the issue. Does that mean, there will be fix soon?18:40
bruceleedsTaggnostr4: How do I do that?18:41
Taggnostr4I hope so18:41
Taggnostr4http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu18:41
Taggnostr4Didn't solve much for me, but maybe you'll have better luck18:42
bruceleedsTaggnostr4: What does this do?18:44
Taggnostr4Not sure, iirc it disables something that might interfere with the video18:45
bruceleedsTaggnostr4: For me that means just a black screen even without the login screen...18:46
bruceleedsAnyone else any clue what to do?18:49
bruceleedsTo recap: I get a black screen after the login screen, now that I have updated my kubuntu 14.10 to 15.4...18:49
pkulasBest "fix" is copy all of your data and do a clean 15.04 install18:51
bruceleedspkulas: I considered that, however that would suck badly...18:52
qdatabest fix is to not waste your time with 15.04, it should never have been designated 'release' and foisted upon the world; it simply is not ready to be called "release"18:53
bruceleedsBecause of all the work I put into this18:53
bruceleedsqdata: True story.18:53
acz32i've said this a couple times already. i would boot into a live environment and see if that works running from the livecd18:53
bruceleedsI should have read more about the status of the relase18:53
CymanI have a ? about virtual desktops. In version 14 the desktops would retain my windows. In 15.04 they do not. Is there a setting that I have missed?18:53
qdatayou wouldn't have seen anything detrimental as everyone wants to just sweep the ugliness under the rug18:54
bruceleedsI guess it will be impossible to revert the system to 14.10 without completely reinstalling it, isn't it?18:54
qdataI use clonezilla and have backup image, which is what I reverted to so I'd have a machine I could use that works18:55
bruceleedsqdata: You mean if I had done more research in the internet regarding the status of 15.4, I would not have found anything substanial against 15.4?18:55
pkulasbruceleeds : Only a chance to do a revert If You would have a backup of disc before dist-upgrade18:56
bruceleedspkulas: not so much18:56
bruceleedsdang18:56
qdatabruceleeds: maybe not, I don't know - all I see is how great it is everywhere I look18:56
bruceleedsqdata: That's what I read...18:56
bruceleedsIt would be a pain in the butt to reinstall everything18:57
bruceleedsIs there a way to do get some error messages at least?18:57
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Mgigamastahey19:00
Mgigamastaall19:00
pkulasbruceleeds : Try ~/.xsession-errors19:01
gary__15.04 is not ready.19:03
bruceleedspkulas: Ok, what am I looking for in there....?19:05
bruceleedsThere is a lot of text19:05
pkulasbruceleeds : Try remove all and login again to get crash then check file again19:06
bruceleedspkulas: Still a LOT of text19:08
bruceleedsSome of the juicy stuff: "The X11 connection broke (error 1) Did the X11 server die?"19:09
bruceleeds"QXcbConnection: Failed to get the primary output of the screen"19:10
bruceleeds<- that's before the other bit19:10
gary__I will try kubuntu-201504240858-amd64.iso and if this doesn't work, I'm going to the LTS version.  I have to get work done!19:12
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bruceleedsSame here: I also have to get work done. That's why this sucks so bad.19:15
pkulasbruceleeds : maybe some configuration files cause this problem19:16
bruceleedspkulas: Maybe, but which ones? How do I find out?19:16
pkulasbruceleeds : login screen is working for you?19:16
bruceleedsI get to the login screen, yes19:16
pkulasTry add new user by console then login on it19:17
pkulasTo see if it works19:17
bruceleedsWhat are the commands?19:17
pkulasadduser user_name19:17
pkulasas sudo19:17
pkulasroot*19:17
bruceleedsok done19:18
bruceleedsnow?19:18
pkulastry login on KDE login screen19:18
bruceleedspkulas: Reboot and get into login screen and try with new userß19:18
bruceleedsok19:18
pkulasyes19:18
bruceleedspkulas: same for the new user19:19
pkulasSo config files seems not be a problem19:20
bruceleedsmore ideas?19:21
pkulaswhat about startx from console?19:21
bruceleedspkulas: how do I do that?19:24
bruceleedscommand "startx"?19:24
pkulasyes19:25
bruceleedspkulas: Do I switch to the command line with Ctrl+Alt+F1?19:25
pkulasyes19:25
pkulasbruceleeds : check this log also,  /var/log/Xorg.0.log maybe here you get more info about problem19:26
bruceleedspkulas: I get some output and then the line "waiting for X server to shut down (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file."19:26
bruceleedspkulas: What am I searching for in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?19:28
pkulaspkulas : bruceleeds for some keywords for crash reason19:28
pkulasI wrong typed :D19:29
bruceleedspkulas: :-D19:30
bruceleedspkulas: the most suspicious lines are along the lines of "This device may have been added with another device file."19:30
bruceleedsand "No input driver specified, ignoring this device."19:31
bruceleedsThere is an insane amount of text in the log19:31
kubuntu575So I just upgraded kubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 and at boot, I drop to a root prompt with this error:Error getting authority: error initializing authority: could not connect: no such file or directory g-io-error-quark19:35
kubuntu575I saw I need to do dog - - configure - a and then system to enable sddm.service - f but th19:36
kubuntu575Sorry, on mobile.. I saw I need to do dpkg - - configure - a19:36
kubuntu575That does nothing19:37
kubuntu575Then systemctl enable sddm.service - f19:37
kubuntu575Gives the same error19:37
kubuntu575I have no network, no USB19:37
kubuntu575What can I do to fix this?19:37
pkulasbruceleeds : I don't have any more ideas what can be the problem19:38
pkulasbruceleeds : You may try upgrade plasma to beta 5.3 if you have internet access there but no idea if it solve anything19:38
bruceleedspkulas: Ok, thanks for your help.19:38
bruceleedspkulas: how do I do the upgrade to 5.3?19:38
bruceleeds(it can hardly get worse)19:38
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kubuntu575Also, I use let and encrypted home folder, in case that matters19:39
pkulasbruceleeds : add ppa with backports, 1 sec19:39
bruceleedsI wait...19:39
kubuntu575I have backups, but not all as recent as should be, so any help would be greatly appeciatrd19:39
bruceleedskubuntu575: I also have serious problems with Kub 15.4...19:40
kubuntu575Also, it mentions file or directory not found, but not which file or directory it's looking for.. Could I find that somewhere?19:40
bruceleedskubuntu575: Maybe its because of .Xauthority file?19:40
mefistokeyboard shortcuts for next/previous activity (Meta+Tab/Meta+shift+Tab) don't work. but "manage activities" shortcut does work. can someone confirm this, or is it just me19:41
pkulasbruceleeds: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports19:41
pkulasthen do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade19:41
kubuntu575bruceleeds : I think it's because of logind service, from what I've learned from Google so far19:41
kubuntu575I've seen that many have this problem.  And19:41
kubuntu575And resolved it with dpkg - - configure - a and then the systemctl enable sddm.service - f, but doing that gives me the exact same error19:42
stoocotbruceleeds: probably you have optimus enabled and some problem with X Window startup on dual GPU config. Try switching under BIOS setup to discrete graphics, delete or rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf and verify if X starts with Intel GPU19:43
bruceleedspkulas: adding the backport does not work19:44
pkulasDid a upgrade?19:44
bruceleedsstoocot: Yes, I had optimus something19:44
bruceleedsno upgrade did not change anything, it says there was nothing to change19:45
bruceleedsstoocot: How do  I do those things?19:45
bruceleedsI know how to rename xorg.conf19:45
bruceleedsbut how do I do the switching?19:46
bruceleedsI know how to get into bios, but I never heard of the feature19:46
stoocotI had a lot of problems (lenovo W520 user) with nvidia card with dual-screen setup and most of them were solved after upgrade to plasma 5.2/5.319:46
bruceleedsstoocot: ok, alternatively: how do I upgrade to 5.2/5.319:47
bruceleeds?19:47
pkulasbruceleeds check this : apt-cache policy plasma-desktop19:47
pkulasis there 4:5.3.0 version?19:47
stoocotSorry for fooling you with "discrete". "Internal" of course19:48
bruceleedsapt-cache policy plasma-desktop  returns:19:48
bruceleeds4:5.2.2-0ubuntu419:48
pkulasAre you sure you added ppa?19:49
bruceleedsfor both "installed" and "install candidate"19:49
stoocotif I remember - advanced setup/graphic card, select "Internal", select "OS does not support Optimus"19:49
pkulasand did everything I wrote?19:49
bruceleedspkulas: no, the adding did not work19:49
bruceleedsit gives an error19:49
pkulasYou sure you have internet access?19:49
bruceleedsnot sure19:49
pkulastry ping 8.8.819:50
pkulas8.8.8.819:50
bruceleedsI did not have a connection. Now I have.19:51
bruceleedsupdate done...19:51
pkulasSo add again ppa then update and upgrade19:51
kubuntu575Some more Google shows that this might be related to polkit not running in emergency mode, could this ring a bell perhaps?19:52
bruceleedskubuntu575: not here...19:52
bruceleedsupgrade takes another 2 minutes19:52
kubuntu575First kubuntu upgrade in ages that crashes this badly, I was way too over confident :(19:53
bruceleedsThis NVidia-Optimus is some serious bullshit. No wonder Linus gave them the finger for this one. I had some really bad problems beforehand as well in Kubuntu 13.4 (I think). I thought that was behind me (since 14.4) but now it comoes back to haunt me... man...19:54
acz3215.04 sounds like it was rushed19:54
codebrainzhi. i updated to 15.04 on the weekend and some apps (ex. qtcreator) won't show any files in the open file dialogs. it can be worked around by clearing the QT_PLUGIN_PATH environment var, but then it loses features (theme, native dialogs, etc). is there a better workaround?19:54
sbivol_hi, I just noticed that after a fresh install of Kubuntu 15.04, users can not change their passwords (kdepasswd is missing)19:55
bruceleedskubuntu575: same here...19:55
pkulasbruceleeds: any change after upgrade?19:55
bruceleedsnot finished yet19:55
bruceleedsIt's gone be legen... wait for it...19:55
kubuntu575bruceleeds :well here I have an emergency root prompt, that's all..19:56
kubuntu575Dairy? :)19:56
pkulasbruceleeds: Also you can check BIOS and change there something about grahpics19:56
bruceleedswait for it...19:56
pkulasok19:57
bruceleeds... not so dairy...19:58
bruceleedsdang19:58
stoocotbruceleeds: here is my xorg.conf for W520 with Optimus enabled and Nvidia drivers v346, that works also with dual screen setup: http://pastebin.com/syriqtUF19:59
kubuntu575bruceleeds : you lactose intolerant?19:59
bruceleedskubuntu575: seems like it...19:59
pkulasDid you restart after upgrade?20:00
bruceleedspkulas: yes20:00
bruceleedsstoocot: I thought xorg.conf is behind us?20:00
kubuntu575Anybody who might know about 15.04: error getting authority: error initializing authority: could not connect: no such file or directory g-io-error-quark20:00
kubuntu575bruceleeds core. Coill be with us until wayland20:01
kubuntu575Damned mobile phone...20:01
kubuntu575bruceleeds: xorg.conf will be with us until wayland20:02
kubuntu575I'm going insane here with this new kubuntu20:02
bruceleedsstoocot: what changes am I supposed to do in bios where exactly?20:02
bruceleedskubuntu575: dito20:02
bruceleedskubuntu575: But there seem to be quite a lot of people20:02
bruceleedsstoocot:  I am in bios now20:03
stoocotI'm looking for screenshots...20:04
kubuntu575Valorie:really sorry to bother you directly, but you usually have great solutions.. Any idea how to solveError getting authority: error initializing authority: could not connect: no such file or directory g-io-error-quark&rlz but without dpkg - - configure - a and then systemctl enable sddm.service - f, because that's all over the Internet, I tried it,and it's not fixing it, my laptop is dead I  the water after my 15.04 upgrade20:04
stoocothttp://bretstateham.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ThinkPad-Graphics-Device-BIOS-Settings-No-Callout.png20:05
bruceleedsstoocot: got that. What setting should I chose (and why)?20:06
stoocotIntegrated Graphics and OS Detection: Disabled20:06
stoocotIt will switch off Nvidia GPU20:07
phoenixzbruceleeds: Yay, I'm in!20:08
stoocotNext time you boot Linux only i915 driver will be used. It doesn't require xorg.conf20:08
bruceleedsphoenixz: you had the same issue as me?20:08
phoenixzbruceleeds: so I saw at grub that there is an "upstart" mode as well, tried that one, and that booted without problem20:08
bruceleedsstoocot: ok, I wrote it20:09
phoenixzbruceleeds: Not really.. ah damn, its great to be able to write on a keyboard again.. No, I booted, and immediately dropped in an emergency shell with that @%$#($ error..20:09
bruceleedsI mean, I changed the bios setttings20:09
bruceleedsphoenixz: so what did you achieve...?20:10
jlotonahsupomans20:10
bruceleedssounds like you only thought it worked, but it didn't...20:10
jlotonahlulz20:10
phoenixzbruceleeds: my laptop booted to X, I'm using Quassel now instead of my mobile phone.. My laptop only had a DOA emergency shell with root prompt20:10
jlotonahkernel 4.0 with Xorg :-)20:10
jlotonahkubuntu 2015.0420:10
jlotonahupdating...20:11
bruceleedswhat the... something just came up...20:12
jlotonahtrue20:14
bruceleedsok... seems like I am in kubuntu 15.4...20:14
bruceleedswhy are all my settings gone?20:15
jlotonahi dont have a sysinfo script with a client with sasl but ... yeah... kernel panics... broken optimus... google... PCI:8... restore Xorg... solved.20:15
jlotonahsame here ^20:15
stoocotbruceleeds: you changed name of .kde and .config folders20:15
bruceleedsstoocot: can I try to revert them back?20:16
bruceleedsor is that potentially harmful?20:16
stoocotlogout to startup screen and change them back to original names from console session20:16
bruceleedswill do20:17
stoocotALT+CTRL+F120:17
bruceleedsstoocot: The startup of KDE is really slow... why is that?20:18
bruceleedslike super slow20:19
bruceleedsis that because of the slow graphics card?20:19
Taggnostr4Did you find a fix?20:20
stoocotDefinitely no, Intel response is faster than Nvidia's when u use plain desktop20:20
bruceleedsTaggnostr4: stoocot suggested to switch of the optimus graphics card in the bios http://bretstateham.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/ThinkPad-Graphics-Device-BIOS-Settings-No-Callout.png20:21
bruceleedsstoocot: Oh, when is the Nvidia's card faster then?20:21
stoocotWhen you use it to render 3D graphics - many times faster20:22
bruceleedsstoocot: like games?20:22
Taggnostr4Let's try20:22
Taggnostr4No such option in my bios20:23
stoocotYour laptop screen is connected to Intel GPU in Nvidia has to show something on it, it has to copy screen content to Intel's output20:23
bruceleedsTaggnostr4: he said one should use the intel card instead of the nvidia card and also disable the switch20:23
bruceleedsTaggnostr4: I use Lenovo... depends on what you are using and whether you are using Nvidia Optimus technology20:24
Taggnostr4I have an old VAIO20:24
bruceleedsstoocot: Got it. But why is the system so slow now?20:24
bruceleedsTaggnostr4: different issue maybe.20:24
stoocotYou can re-enable Optimus after deleting drivers from Nvidia - it's not harmfull: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*20:25
Taggnostr4I have a nvidia card20:25
bruceleedsstoocot: also: after moving .kde and .config, still only some of the settings are backk20:25
bruceleedsstoocot: what do you mean? I delete Nvidia-drivers, then I enable optimus and then I install those drivers again?20:28
stoocotbruceleeds: I can't guess what else you deleted / renamed, sorry20:28
bruceleedsstoocot: nothing else20:29
stoocotbruceleeds: yes, exactly you can try install Nvidia again from Driver Manager.20:29
stoocotbruceleeds: and you probably will finish in black screen again :)20:30
bruceleedsgreat, now everything is frozen20:30
bruceleedsstoocot: you mean, if I reinstall the nvidia drivers, I might get a black screen again?20:31
Taggnostr4bruceleeds, yours was an upgrade from 14.10, right?20:32
bruceleedsTaggnostr4: yes20:32
Taggnostr4I'm thinking about formatting and reinstalling 15.04 from scratch20:32
Taggnostr4If that fails, reinstall 14.1020:33
bruceleedsstoocot: Maybe I / my computer is not ready for kubuntu 15.4... If I decide tomorrow that I reinstall Kubuntu 14.10. What files would I have to move to 14.10 in order to get my old system back? (Programms not included, those I would reinstall.)20:33
stoocotbruceleeds: I had the same thoughts, before Plasma 5 I was not able to use Nvidia GPU at all.20:36
bruceleedsstoocot: that was different for me: I was able to use optimus from Kubuntu 14.4 onwards20:36
bruceleedswithout bumblebee & Co.20:37
bruceleedsBefore that I used bumblebee which was a huge hassle20:37
bruceleedsin Kubuntu 14.4 and onwards I used KDE 420:38
bruceleedsI took my sweet time to migrate from KDE 3 to KDE 4 back in the day, which became quite the problem later on. So I thought, this time I flow with the current...20:38
bruceleedsand migrate to KDE 5 early.20:38
stoocotMy HW is older and more problematic. With Plasma 5 it flies.20:39
bruceleedsnot the best idea after all20:39
bruceleedsstoocot: nice to hear20:39
bruceleedsstoocot: I wonder why it really does not fly for me...20:39
stoocotI'm switching on Nvidia only for dual screen with: "sudo prime-select nvidia" and back to Intel with "sudo prime-select intel"20:40
bruceleedsstoocot: my nvidia is witched off right now, and it still does not work20:40
bruceleedsstoocot: do you know which files I have to migrate, to get 14.10 back, when I reinstall that?20:41
bruceleedsemails, contacts, .mozillla obviously.20:41
bruceleedsbut also .kde and .config ?20:42
bruceleedsare there more folders like .kde and .config?20:42
pkulasbruceleeds: right now your config files may be with some additional settings from 15.0420:42
stoocotbruceleeds: hard to answer - almost whole home dir20:42
bruceleedsstoocot: which is completely tainted by 15.420:43
bruceleeds...20:43
bruceleedspkulas: sucks to be me...20:43
bruceleeds:-D20:43
bruceleedsok, I think I slowly move towards bed20:44
stoocotbruceleeds: have you touched grub config? modesetting, etc...20:44
bruceleedsstoocot: nope for grub (that would rebuild itself I guess). What20:45
bruceleedsWhat's modesetting?20:45
phoenixzphNot sure if anybody can read what I'm writing, but my GUI isvery  VREY messed up, I see a different screen that the screen I actually should see.. so if I cluck some where in quassel, I''m actually clicking in chrome e and stoocthings like that.. Anyway, doing an NVidia driver update now, hoping that that will fix that issue.. At least, I think I'm upgrading it, I'm not sure what I'm doing, I cant see..20:45
stoocotI don't know why your laptop slowed down. You shuld create new user accout, make sure that you deleted xorg.conf and login to this accout.20:46
JMichaelXanyone else experiencing difficulty getting desktop effects to work, using onboard intel (i915) graphics?20:46
JMichaelX(in kubuntu 15.04)20:47
bruceleedsstoocot: where is xorg.conf located?20:48
stoocotIf it works ok it means that there's something wrong with your main account config, not with kubuntu 15.0420:48
stoocot"/etc/X11" - requires root20:49
bruceleedsstoocot: there is a xorg.conf.0316... and another one with a different number20:49
bruceleedswhat is it?20:50
stoocotOK, it's backup, no need to touch20:50
bruceleedsok, there is no other20:51
Taggnostr4I'm trying to login with another account to see if it works20:52
bruceleedsstoocot: what should I do?20:53
stoocotbruceleeds: nothing :) if system on this account works well it means that your main accound is messed up. If not - the problem is general...20:54
bruceleedsstoocot: looks like its system-wide20:57
stoocotbruceleeds: bad luck... no chance to help without deeper inspection20:58
Taggnostr4With sudo startx it more or less work here20:59
Taggnostr4I'm just missing the bar at the bottom and it's a bit slow20:59
bruceleedsstoocot: Your guess: Is it 15.4 itself or the upgrade from 14.10? Would a clean install of 15.4 be better?21:02
Taggnostr4Is there anything I can try to start to get the bar at the bottom?21:03
Taggnostr4Is that part of plasma?21:05
bruceleedsTaggnostr4: yes it is21:10
Taggnostr4Is there a command to start plasma?21:11
stoocotbruceleeds: sorry - was away for some minutes. It's easy to check without messing the system if you prepare live DVD/USB and boot from it.21:11
stoocotIt won't have Nvida proprietary drivers but tandem Intel/nouveau should work OK.21:12
bruceleedsok21:12
Taggnostr4I can get windows in two ways: 1) start the PC, drop in a tty, run sudo startx; 2) login normally, get black screen, drop in the tty, kill kwin_x11, go back to the graphical session21:13
Taggnostr4With 1 windows have borders, with 2 they don't21:14
pkulasI love built-in Intel drivers, works everything and no need nothing to configure. (Intel Hd 4400)21:14
Taggnostr4Also Firefox starts with 1 but not with 221:14
Taggnostr4FWIW I tried to boot 14.10 from USB and still got black screen, even if it was working while installed21:16
Taggnostr4I think that's because it needs nvidia drivers that are not included on the live USB21:16
ejaypkulas, true that. intel drivers are flawless21:17
mefistoTaggnostr4: I think to start plasma, the command is plasmashell21:18
Taggnostr4Nothing seems to happen with that21:18
stoocotmefisto: in fact it should be started automatically :)21:18
Taggnostr4If I do it from konsole I get kf5.kiconthemes: "theme tree: (breeze)"21:20
stoocotmanual way: sudo systemctl start sddm  or stop, restart, ...21:20
Taggnostr4The stop kicked me out, the start got me at the login screen21:21
Taggnostr4After login is still all black21:21
Taggnostr4kwin_x11 started again, and it's eating all the CPU again21:22
stoocotTaggnstr4: maybe also try to create test account and try to login to it21:25
stoocotTaggnstr4: from console: sudo adduser whatever21:26
Taggnostr4stoocot, just did earlier, nothing changed21:27
stoocotTaggnstr4: what's your HW?21:28
Taggnostr4An 8+ years old VAIO with nvidia graphics21:29
stoocotTaggnstr4: yeah, always nvidia... have you tried to (re)create default xorg.conf with: sudo nvidia-xconfig ?21:34
stoocotIf you use proprietary drivers...21:34
chrissgHey folks -- 15.04 here, volume control buttons on keyboard show the volume level bar on screen, but has zero effetc on actual volume. Any ideas? :)21:47
chrissgD'oh. I banged my head for 2 hours straight on this one. Once posted I figured it out myself: Selecting a "master channel" in the volume props...21:48
pkulaschrissg : Open KDE Mixer and then change sound volume by keyboard21:49
pkulaschrissg : Maybe it changed for wrong card21:49
pkulas:D21:49
chrissg:)21:49
chrissgBut play, pause, stop still has no effect (on spotify). I take it the spotify integration is not yet... finished?21:50
pkulasNo idea21:51
chrissgMeh, doesnt matter for now. I am still "moving" in to my new OS here. :)21:52
stoocotchrissg: KDE Mixer has setting "choose master channel" which is related also to HW buttons. check it please21:53
eternaL1Fresh install, ubuntu mini + Kubuntu Desktop ... the minimal install surely worked, but cannot seem to use anything or start the lightdm/dm/kde21:53
eternaL1how can i be sure the kubuntu download worked properly during the minimal install?21:55
ejayguys, found a bug - dolphin is crashing when trying to open file from su directory (in my case xorg log file). file is opening via kate but dolphin is goin down. can anyone here try this out? sending bug report now.21:57
pkulasejay : What is su directiory?21:58
pkulasejay: do you have 2 files in kate?21:58
pkulasejay : or it's first file opened21:58
ejaypkulas, i meant directory below my /home dir. for example - /etc, /usr21:59
pkulasok21:59
pkulasejay: So it freeze on second file?21:59
ejaypkulas, number of files opened does not matter. kate is working fine.21:59
pkulasejay: yes but i had bug that dolphin crash when second opened in Kate by dolphin22:00
ejaypkulas, one file, two files, three files. dolphin is not responding after opening file.22:00
ejaypkulas, you know what? that's might be the case. opening two files indeed is killing dolphin. no matter what file. closing kate is making dolphin respond again. hmmm22:02
ejaypkulas, did you send this to bugtracker?22:02
pkulasejay : Yes22:03
pkulashttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346743 here22:03
ubottuKDE bug 346743 in general "Dolphin freeze when opening text files with Kate" [Crash,Unconfirmed]22:03
pkulasejay: but probably it will be unconfirmed up to next release...22:03
pkulasejay: like most of bugs reported there22:03
ejaypkulas, voted. thanks.22:05
chrissgAnyone here got owncloud (client) to autostart minized (plasma) to work?22:08
Finetundrahey folks, can I ask questions about clementine here?22:09
ejayFinetundra, you can always ask.22:10
Finetundrahow do I get clementine to play .aac files?22:12
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ejayFinetrundra, did you tried this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/214421/how-to-install-the-mpeg-4-aac-decoder-and-the-h-264-decoder ?22:15
JMichaelX\22:18
Finetundraejay, doesn't seem to have worked22:19
Finetundra:(22:19
pkulasFinetundra : is that file working with Amarok?22:19
Finetundrapkulas, yip22:20
typhoon_2099_I'm still having 15.04 issues. I've had to resort to purging the nvidia drivers and installin lightdm so that I can at least get logged in, otherwise I come up against the "starting version 219" screen at startup. SDDM is running, I've checked the systemctl and it's reported as active.22:20
pkulasthen you no need codecs, already there just need to link them somehow to Clementine22:20
pkulasalso you may consider about convert all files to mp322:21
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pkulasFinetundra : http://askubuntu.com/questions/459512/how-to-play-m4a-in-clementine what about this?22:22
Finetundrapkulas, I actually have a good portion converted to .ogg but there's still a bit of my library that is in .aac and I was hoping to not have to convert it to .ogg22:22
typhoon_2099_Also, the nouveau driver are garbage, I don't know if there's some incompatibility with lightdm but the screen is doing partial repaints all the time.22:24
typhoon_2099_Is reinstalling Kubuntu going to be the easiest thing to do? I've been trying to fix this problem for 3 days now and it just seems to keep getting worse and worse.22:40
victor2015Hi everyone, just to mention I tried Kubuntu 15.04 but my wireless that uses password authentication didn't work said "configuring interface" and then failed connection but connections that don't require password worked.  Also, couldn't complete installation because grub setup failed.22:40
Finetundravictor2015: you may have to set the permission for the network to allow all users to connect to it. I'm on 14.04 but it may have carried over to 15.0422:43
typhoon_2099_Is it worth my time installing the 4.0 Kernel? I've heard a couple of peole saying that it solved their problems.22:43
victor2015Finetundra: I was successfully able to install kubuntu 14.04 without any of the problems I encountered in 15.0422:44
CharlieTheCabbieevening guys. Is blueskaj around please?22:46
FinetundraCharlieTheCabbie: he doesn't seem to be in the channel22:47
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CharlieTheCabbieOh baubles.  I am still trying to find someone who can help me fix my install of vervet.  I cannot get plasma to kick into life, I can't even get it to the KDE splash now.  I am having to login using xfce and I don't want that :(22:49
typhoon_2099_I've finally managed to get logged in using lightdm, I still have no idea how to get SDDM working.22:49
CharlieTheCabbieI've changed my nvidia drivers to 304 which is what supports my card, I have tried restarting the sddm, I have done 2 dist upgrades in 24 hours, 1404LTS to 1410, then 1410 to 150422:50
N3X15CharlieTheCabbie, you've made a huge mistake.22:50
N3X15Because 15.04 is horribly broken at the moment.22:51
typhoon_2099_Is it possible to downgrade to 14.10 again?22:51
N3X15According to the wiki, the answer is no.22:52
CharlieTheCabbie"Brace yourself Ubuntu lovers!! Yes, the final stable version of Ubuntu 15.04, code named Vivid Vervet, is now ready for download."22:53
N3X15typhoon_2099, according to the wiki, no22:53
typhoon_2099_Just found out that unplugging my monitor kills KDE or something.22:53
typhoon_2099_That's disappointing.22:53
CharlieTheCabbiehttp://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-15-04-final-version-and-its-official-flavours-have-been-released/ ^^22:53
typhoon_2099_My install is totally borked.22:53
CharlieTheCabbiemine is falling apart like a flatpacked motorcycle, typhoon_209922:54
CharlieTheCabbieI am downloading an iso of 15.04 and I'm gonna go for a fresh install22:54
typhoon_2099_I figured I had done something wrong and was going loopy over why the thing wouldn't let me log in properly. Nice to know my mistake was upgrading.22:54
N3X15Try using lightdm22:55
CharlieTheCabbieIf the distribution was that badly broken, it should not have been released. What the hell is beta testing for???22:55
typhoon_2099_I might have to do the same. I'm worried about my /etc configs getting wiped though.22:55
N3X15Some people have success using that over sddm22:55
CharlieTheCabbieHow do I swap to lightdm over sddm?22:55
typhoon_2099_I have, though it's still not super smooth or anything, but it will get your desktop back.22:55
typhoon_2099_sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm, then select lightdm.22:56
typhoon_2099_Or install lightdm from apt i it's not there.22:56
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typhoon_2099_Cheers guys.22:58
CharlieTheCabbiewell I'll definitely give that a go before I nail my netinstalled version and start the whole thing again!23:00
N3X15Remember to back up everything.23:01
CharlieTheCabbieI'll simply copy my whole /home folder onto my external HD and then unplug it before I reinstall, that way I know it can't be accessed during the work23:01
N3X15yeah23:03
N3X15I'm considering reinstalling with 14.x23:03
N3X15The UI is nice once it comes up, but if you try to change anything, you incur the wrath of god23:04
CharlieTheCabbieI incurred the wrath of God already by having my PC which sounds like a fighter jet taking off from Mildenhall, running all night while I was trying to sleep.  It was like trying to kip in a wind tunnel23:06
CharlieTheCabbieIt's been switched on now for 33 hours23:06
N3X15CharlieTheCabbie, my Debian test server is a 2U rackmount server which sounds like a hairdryer.  I actually have gotten so used to it that I can't sleep if it's not running.23:27
Simoniousyou guys have a favorite place for image pastes?23:39
Simonioushttp://oi58.tinypic.com/f3hyc5.jpg <- how do I get this to look in the correct location for this update?  (it checked a local server which most certanly does not have what it is looking for)23:40
SimoniousI know I screwed this up and made it point to the wrong place, but I'm not sure how to fix it.23:41
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